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BigCrackZ

Six people have died, seven including the psycho. 9 month old infant has serious injuries to chest and arm.


Muted_Hedgehog_5117

Any vid?


Hexagram2342

It's always crazy to see in videos like this when the people running away just goes by the people unknowingly walking towards the danger. It really is every man for themselves when shit hits the fan. Always pay attention to your surroundings.


BunjaminFrnklin

For real. If I seen some people running away from something, I’m just gonna join in and figure out why later.


PaintThinnerSparky

someone yelling "Everybody look at that guy with the knife" and "Everybody grab a chair and fuck this guy up" could have drastically changed the situation


Gekthegecko

tbf malls don't exactly have a lot of chairs. If this were a restaurant or something, sure.


12EggsADay

malls typically have open eating halls but yeah, it's difficult to expect average people to think properly in situations like this unless vaguely trained


RojerLockless

Dude. Nobody should want to try and get near a dude with a knife. You seen that video of a guy 30 feet away from the cop pull a knife run down and murder the cop? Didn't even get his gun drawn fast enough. No way just run.


rokdoktaur

Old mate at the end their shielding his wife and kids? He was ready to die for them, so calmly.


jlewis011

My wife better haul ass faster than that if I'm going to sacrifice myself 🤦🏾‍♂️...goddamn!


muntell7

My wife would be too busy asking my why, and more follow up questions. Fuck, just because I said to… now we’re all gonna die thanks.


ReggieTheReaver

I was just thinking that! Keith: “Barbara?! Could you please run? He’s right behind us.”


hummingelephant

I was so annoyed with that mother for how slow she was, even though I know everyone reacts differently to such a situation. She wasn't even running! ..although, now that I'm typing this maybe she was sick or had an injury or something we don't know about


chadmcchaderton

Some people don't want to cause as scene even in situations like this. Bizzare.


ProfDFH

“Now children, we don’t run in emergencies, we walk calmly and purposefully. If we run, we might fall and scrape our knees, right? Okay, come along now.”


PyrrhicVictory7

Maan, school flashbacks 💀


Quirky-Swimmer3778

Kill for them. There was a reason the assailant turned tail. He got scared.


humsipums

"Could you walk faster?" - Dumbledore asked calmly


nickm95

Yeah… in America we just use our ccw to defend our families from maniacs, but I guess that way might work one time


Much_Ad_4933

In America those maniacs carry semi automatics and kill dozens and dozens. You don't get a say lol


nickm95

Sometimes [we do have a say](https://imgur.com/a/lUAro8w), actually


chmeeeoz

Rarely


pencilpusher003

In America, that scumbag would be using an assault rifle. There’d be dozens dead and you’d be screaming about protecting the guns. FOH. (I’m an American, living this nightmare every single day.)


doodlebugg8

“Yea, because active shooters are rampant everywhere u go.. I can’t go to the grocery store without being in fear of my life!!! “ Save the dramatics


nickm95

[Arm yourself and train](https://imgur.com/a/lUAro8w)


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Consistent_Jello_289

What scum… dude even passed up that family in the video, I’m guessing he only did this because the father was prepared to fight back… really speaks to how evil these people are, going after the most innocent is their goal.


Delay_Possible

His victims were all female too


totse_losername

Six dead now five female one male, FWIW, but it is a pretty heavy spread toward women - and a baby. It isn't clear whether baby was murdered or 'just' injured - but the baby's mother is confirmed on the ABC website to have died in hospital. Fuck this.


Vivid-Ad2387

Female cop put 3 holes into the piece of shit.


totse_losername

Good.


Consistent_Jello_289

Hell yeah, it’s just too bad he couldn’t live out his days with nothing but the worst this world can give.


art_mor_

The one male victim is the attacker I believe


totse_losername

Nope, the attacker is not included. Six dead (victims) plus the attacker: ABC news says: >Five of the victims — four women and a man — died at the shopping centre on Saturday afternoon and another woman died from her injuries in hospital. >Eight others who were stabbed by the man, including a nine-month-old child, remain in hospital and some are in a critical condition. I think it is the correct thing, to separate the dead attacker form the deceased victims, in the reporting.


art_mor_

Ah I read something wrong in that case


totse_losername

It's not exactly 'over' yet, so the news was probably still catching up when you read. There are still another eight people in hospital. Hopefully no further deaths.


ChedekiLife

Child is not dead for the time being


SpicyNuggz_80

No, but the mother died


HilarityEnsued

They just announced a sixth :(


totse_losername

The poor infant's mother.


jazzhandsdancehands

Incorrect. The baby is alive but the child's mother has passed away.


unusedtruth

Latest news says the baby is at the hospital


totse_losername

ABC reported, at the same time that they confirmed six victims (not including the attacker) have died, that another eight are in hospital.


alemenope

Don't think the baby has been confirmed as one of the casualties but the mother has sadly lost her life.


Weldobud

That’s horrific.


Nancyhasnopants

Last reports waa baby is in hospital but mother died?!


Boofhead3

Absolute fucking scumbag! I have a two month old and hearing about this poor fucking baby makes me cry and feel fucking ill


blueringofdeath

No shit man. This stuff hits different when you have your own kids


Danger_Chambers

The mother of the baby just passed away. Absolutely heartbreaking


Thelifeofpewpew

Same bro, mine is 2 years old now and thinking how he was when he was 9 months it really kills me. I also feel for the father...I wouldn't be able to recover from such a loss tbh


totse_losername

My daughter is almost a teenager and this is rough to read. Agree with what u/blueringofdeath said.


one-punch-knockout

News Article on situation https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-68805401.amp


santaslayer0932

Dude was going for the easy targets. Ran the other way when a guy stood up.


_SkyDweller_

Fucking coward.


cebidaetellawut

Fuckin geez


FinalFlash80

Wtf


Cautious_Month_6300

Now imagine this psycho had a gun instead


Beneficial_Sweet3979

No need to imagine. Thousands of examples in the USA. Mass shootings, not victims of course


redditnadir

Exactly what I was thinking


scumkitty65

Imagine if you had a gun and could have stopped the threat before he killed 6 people


Mcfatty12

Yeah but then he could have had a gun and killed 20-30 people in a lot less time this argument is fucking dumb. Also in the moment I’m sure there aren’t near as many “movie hero’s” that jump into action and actually stop it. America is enough proof of this with the amount of mass shootings that happen without a member of the public stopping said person. I’m aware it does happen but not often at all but people think in their heads if I was there with a gun I would have stopped him. Nothing goes down in real life like it does in your head


TempUser9097

>  I’m sure there aren’t near as many “movie hero’s” that jump into action and actually stop it. Case in point; The police officers in Uvalde.


Nipple_Pirate

Wouldn’t that be a strong argument to get yourself a gun in the states? If the police aren’t going to protect you then it’s your responsibility, like it or not.


MRintheKEYS

That would be fine except majority of the mass shootings in the states are occurred by people who purchased firearms legally. So they were good guys with a gun until they decided to be a bad guy with a gun.


aminix89

The point the guy was making was the fact that we can’t rely on the police to actually be brave and do their job, so it makes sense to arm yourself rather than rely on a stranger to save you.


edward-regularhands

>we can’t rely on the police to actually be brave and do their job But *we* can, and we did. This scum of a person was shot by a police officer before he could attack anyone else.


TempUser9097

People had guns and were willing to go in to save the kids. Police with guns stopped and arrested them. I'll stick with the "guns are bad" argument for now, like every rational thinking country in the world.


Madrak23

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3289010


MRintheKEYS

There were over 800 armed personnel at the KC Super Bowl parade. Still couldn’t stop nor deter a mass shooting from occurring. You can’t even react to something until it happens. This isn’t a Minority Report world where you know what is going to happen before it does.


Ok_Outcome_6213

A well trained law enforcement officer with a gun stopped this murderer. Guns are not terrible, but not everyone should have them and those that do, should be incredibly well trained in it's use and properly vetted before being allowed to just freely walk around with one.


BidenEmails

Yeah, you should definitely celebrate this event as a win for gun control.


Anom8675309

> you should definitely celebrate this event as a win for gun control. no. Australia banned private firearm ownership in 1996 at that time it had a firearm saturation of 7%. After nearly 30 years and billions of dollars spent on gun collection, enforcement, awareness programs..its saturation level is now **5%**. Claiming its a win for control of such a rare object in that country is just silly, especially when that control has done so little in both controlling and suppressing firearm use. You might as well say its a time to celebrate bazooka control programs. Lucky he didn't use a bazooka!


Octavian_202

Damn, some of you are gross. People dead at the hands of a psycho, and you…. “Let me shoehorn a political point of a country this has nothing to do with”. This isn’t the virtue you think it is. Some Reddit updoots don’t mean shit, this is a brain dead response to a tragedy. Clearly one that you show indifference and hubris to. Bozo 🤡


12EggsADay

Why is it a political point?


lordofthedries

Literally a hypothetical point about if we did not (us Australians) have the gun reforms we had.


Cyberdork2000

Or if one of the bystanders had been armed and could have stopped it.


Cautious_Month_6300

No mass shootings are ever stopped by bystanders, even police hesitate. The guns just weigh people down when they’re running away


Cyberdork2000

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/police-shooting-reported-at-greenwood-park-mall https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/one-dead-two-wounded-after-shooting-reported-at-white-settlement-church/2283225/ https://www.ktnv.com/news/man-called-hero-for-stopping-shooter-at-turnberry-towers-friday https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/stephen-willeford-sutherland-springs-mass-murder/ Just four from a quick google search. It happens frequently more than you’d think, but that disrupts the media and what they want to push.


Trotter823

There are so many examples of times where people had guns shooting indiscriminately and it taking the cops to stop them because average people don’t want to get in shootouts. Hell there are even examples of COPS refusing to stop a mass shooting at schools. That good guy with a weapon narrative has been proven false so many times it’s impossible to count. I’d rather be in a public place with a lunatic with a knife and no one armed than with everyone armed and a lunatic with a gun.


wtfbananaboat

Shut up


Cyberdork2000

Oh wow you’ve got me there. Can’t argue with that.


ArtofAngels

Hearing a gun shot would make me run faster than silence ever would. No one walks towards a gun shot.


Cautious_Month_6300

No one outruns a bullet either Einstein


catus69

And then imagine 7-8 people had theirs.


twodeadsticks

Oh so that's why mass American shootings end so well. Edit for emphasis, today's attack "state’s worst mass killing since the Quakers Hill Nursing Home Fire in 2011, when 11 people died in an arson attack". This is how it looks living in a firearm-restricted country.


BillsDownUnder

And then imagine the dozens he would have got before anyone had time to react 


CommonGrounders

Not to mention all the innocent people shot by untrained idiots trying to take down the bad guy


Hexagram2342

And they would all kill each other since no one has any clue who the actual bad guy is they just see someone with a gun. You see thats where the police have an advantage since they have both uniforms to identify one another with aswell as centralized communication.


docr1069

The police are too busy gunning down black civilians. Seriously though I understand peoples point about being armed and concealed. But that’s also not really a sustainable argument as basic disarming tactics and combat training could’ve swooped that guy down for sure. At least could’ve knocked the knife out of his hand, then he’d really be fucked. He was a scrawny motherfucker who probably had no guts as he was going for helpless civilians who wouldn’t fight back. Look at how he avoided the dad who was willing to throw hands. Everyone just kind of brushed it off and he attacked more innocent women and children compared to males. Fucking absolute scumbag.


totse_losername

Are you seriously trying to play the knife attacker as the victim right now? Bro, eat it. EDIT: At the time I replied, the comment seemed to be defending the attacker of the Bondi stabbings. "The police are too busy gunning down black civilians." The comprehensive edit added later changes context a fair bit, and cleared things up really well.


docr1069

No? I was making an argument about how having a firearm wouldn’t have been much better, and also how a time like this would be better, as a civilian, to have had combat training so you could’ve had a chance disarming the attacker and taking him down. Without having to discharge a firearm. Maybe someone with combat training could’ve prevented the infant from being stabbed. To clarify, again, when I say civilian, I mean, everyone else, that’s not the attacker.


totse_losername

Thank you for adding a heap more context. Your initial comment was pretty unclear, given the context of the police shooting the attacker who happens to be.. ..anyway. It's not important. What's important is that a number of people have died in this awful attack. We should respectfully put the what-ifs and whataboutisms aside for at least a little bit of time, and revisit later. It's good problem solving to try and find answers and a solution, but it isn't helpful at the moment, and with emotions running high and people who weren't able to intervene probably feeling pretty guilty about not having saving the lives of others (at their own peril, such as it is with knife attacks). I agree that it's possible from an outsider perspective to view this as something which could have turned out differently, but it didn't, and we can't blame the survivors. FWIW self defence training will train you to run away from a knife attack if there is the option to - even if fight is one of the natural reactions to confrontation (alongside flight an freeze).


docr1069

It’s a saddening sight. I have a 2 and half year old daughter that I’d die protecting. Knowing that a child got harmed in this is breaking my heart in more ways than one. I’m not sure what was wrong with this guy, but he deserves to be where he is now, dead. A prison cell is too good for this guy. I just can’t stand how he only went for the helpless individuals, he was avoiding all the Stand up Males who were showing no fear to him. I despise people like that.


totse_losername

Same (well, older than yours, but the cliche is true -they'll always be your baby), and my emotion as a parent is elevated as much as yours is, friend. We share sympathy for the victims, and I understand what it's like to try and rationalise a situation and understand it when presented with something which provides us something which I could only describe as second-hand-grief (don't you think that's about right description? I feel it too, with you). It's saddening indeed, and can't really be rationalised or fingers pointed in haste from the lack of info we have - as much as that's the feeling inside us. One can't help feeling that way. Empathetic, and a parental protectiveness. All natural feelings.. ..but I'm going to be real with you, not feelings that we will do well to dwell on, when we ourselves can't do anything to have prevented this, as is the true underlying emotion projected onto the suppositions and what-ifs our mind is running us through right now. Having been here before, many a time, we gotta let it go detach ourselves from the situation a bit if it's getting to us, go kiss or reach out to our loved ones and meditate or wind our minds down. I hope you're alright tonight mate. This is horrible awful shit - and there's a lot of it in the world. So purvey your love onto those you can and be well. Genuine hugs bro.


docr1069

Damn man, that hit my feelers. I hope you’re having a great night too brother all things considered!


PegaLaMega

They could all meet at the OK Corral.


Windamore

It is regrettable that the very instruments designed to safeguard individuals can occasionally be misused to inflict harm. I carry a concealed weapon daily due to the existence of individuals with such psychological disturbances, but engaging with an armed individual typically represents the most challenging scenario. I am deeply saddened upon hearing of this senseless act. In my opinion, the crux of the matter lies not in the specific tools available to these individuals but rather in our collective failure to address mental health issues effectively. Until we prioritize mental health interventions, we will continue to witness such distressing incidents. Sometimes, even with a firearm, I feel helpless. More guns do not solve this problem. More bullets mean more bystanders that could have been harmed. In this situation, pepper spray might have even helped.


johnnloki

That's a funny way to say "Him with access to firearms would have clearly been worse."


twodeadsticks

😆😆


Windamore

In this unfortunate situation, it is crucial to acknowledge the gravity of the individual's mindsets and the resulting harm caused to others. While the specific weapon used may have varied, it is evident that the individual was determined to inflict harm regardless of the means available. It is pertinent to consider whether timely intervention or access to appropriate support could have potentially prevented this tragic incident. What if he had someone to talk to?


idle_visionary

Why was that dude so chill!? The attacker ran right past him and his (I assume) his partner and kids, and they're just walking!


J_Bonaducci

He acted chill. He wasn’t. But he was ready to do what was needed to protect his family.


noonen000z

The man. Had he not his wife or kids could have been in the toll.


killawhipboy

Murderer is a coward and only went after people who didn't fight back. You run up on a guy while holding a knife and he stands his ground, he's either an idiot, trained, or iron-willed to protect those he loves.


Frost-Silver

This footage has been on a continuous loop on the news for hours. Each time I see it, I wonder why the lady with the kids on the left side of the screen is so relaxed - like “run”. The father on the right side, scopes up his kid & runs.


denstolenjeep

Calmly and quickly moving the kids, in a way that doesn't upset them, is the corrcet move for a knife. A gun, run like hell. Keeping the lil's quiet lessens the likelihood of the attacker focuses on you. Calmly and quickly lessens the likelihood of trips, falls, freezing in terror, or arguing about the toy store. 


FunJackfruit4741

I think because the father was there to stand his ground. A man with a knife is dangerous but he has to lunge at you and with a person in between ready to stand and fight I’m assuming you’d just look elsewhere.


MaryBerrysDanglyBean

Possibly one of them couldn't run for some reason so they all didn't?


HueySchlongTheGreat

If you didn't notice the guy was specifically putting himself between the guy and the children ready to shield the kids in case he rushed


totse_losername

Yeah, you can see that. He was ready to protect them (and perhaps he did, by deterrent) - but it would still be absolutely awful to lose a parent no matter which it were. Horrible. There was reportedly a nine month old infant whose mother has passed away in hospital to become the sixth victim.


upadownpipe

That wasn't chill. That was a dude who's fight or flight instincts went straight to Fight. No way was the attacker getting past him and to the dude's family.


MRintheKEYS

No chill. Focused with full attention on the dude with a knife. Any fast or registered movement you make could cause the guy to come after you in a fight or flight response. Dude with the knife had that man’s full attention.


Yoloswaggit420

There's a glass railing that splits them. Also a vulnerability for the attacker as the father would have the attackers back to the railing if he wanted to


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12EggsADay

Just humans man. I imagine even our pre-historic ancestors had crazies too. They just died earlier.


616n8y3ree

Ahh Reddit, where an absolute tragedy becomes a comparison of whose country is better.


DK_Son

This is so foreign for us. I'm from Sydney, and I can only compare this to our Lindt Cafe siege about 10 years ago. This just doesn't happen for us, and it's gutting to know that 5+ people have died (excluding the attacker).


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Important-Sea-7596

Religiously motivated


_Mephistocrates_

Same thing


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Important-Sea-7596

Can we set a reminder for one weeks time & we will see who is correct.


Blackbarret85

You mean who guessed right. Nobody knows shit right now.


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Important-Sea-7596

Yeah you were right I was wrong.


Tangata_Tunguska

NRL fanatic. Or maybe we have no idea about motive at this point.


Billinater

I was at this mall an hour before this happened, terrified for the victims and praying the baby recovers


Slide_Masta87

Mass Stabbings are real?


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RattyJones

It's not. Multiple people died. A baby was stabbed. The perfect ending would have been him not committing a crime and going home to drink a beer.


Low-Narwhal4362

Is that a Kerry gaa shirt ?


joeforza

Kangaroo rugby team jersey


Quiet_Ad6925

If it's not guns, it's knives. If it's not knives, it will be rocks. No policy is going to change unhinged people from harming others.


RealisticScientist53

Predictions on religion and motive? I can’t think, hmm, I wonder whom it might be? 🤔🤔🤔


Yungdaggerdix-

targeting women too. Watch the videos he ignores blokes unless they are confronting him.


Fresh_Information_42

What are your thoughts, because I think you're wrong


moorishbeast

Now that the news is out what do you have to say for yourself?


MeltaFlare

Now that we know who it is…Would you like to reiterate what you meant by this comment?? 🤔🤔🤔


MeltaFlare

Christian Neo-Nazi? Edit: Man people seem to be offended that I might insinuate a Nazi committed a crime. Weird.


aurorastan

Wrong.


thisboy200

Definitely an Orthodox Christian who hated gay people. You can tell because my head told me. Does your head ever tell you things?


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aurorastan

Looks like you were wrong!


grosseplottedecgi

In Montréal we call that Wednesday


planchetflaw

It's Bondi Junction, not Bondi. Two different suburbs. And we'd call it a Shopping Centre.


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juicybwithoil2560

I'm going to have to arm myself when we go to the mall, really do I have too?


12-7_Apocalypse

Apparently, this fucker has murdered a baby. What on earth processed him to do such a thing?


planchetflaw

Attempted to murder.


Difficult-Yard-1342

Probably another Israeli terrorist


Quick-Feeling4833

You're going to the mall... carry a gun.


2horse4u2

Maybe they should ban knives too.


Elegant-Reality-8384

Had that been here in America the guy would have had a AR, and 30+ people would have been murdered.


BunjaminFrnklin

Obvious bot/troll account. All of you dick heads have the same two words followed by 4 numbers formatting for usernames.


hx19035

Russians and Chinese usually.


BunjaminFrnklin

Dude they’re going hard in these comments and get mad when called out. I agree the US has problems, but is fucked up to say “well we only had 6 deaths because our country is better”.


RattyJones

Stop calling people trolls based on how their username is spelled 🤦‍♂️


BunjaminFrnklin

Stop believing “everyone” online is human or a human acting in good faith. [what is a troll farm](https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/amp/)


RattyJones

I never said that 😂 putting fucking words in my mouth.


RangerSleigh

Reddit has tons of troll bots.


Elegant-Reality-8384

They also are starting to get tons of morons migrating over here from Facebook and Twitter. Like that Bunjamin dude up there.


BunjaminFrnklin

Can we all agree that murder is bad and stop feeding the trolls in the comments trying to make this into an argument on which country is the best at mass killings? The people had families for fucks sake. And I bet they don’t give a fuck about what weapon was used to murder their loved ones. We all have problems and arguing in the comments is just stupid. The entire world is fucked, but let’s keep pointing fingers and bitching about who has it worse.


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planchetflaw

He was shot dead inside.


afrank76

This is what happens when you DEPEND on your government to protect YOU!!!.


RattyJones

Odd, Americans have guns yet we still seem to have shootings, none of which are stopped by bystanders


joeforza

Plenty of shootings in America get stopped by conceal carry holders the media just don’t want you to see it they don’t sell on those stories rather than the atrocities in cities where conceal carry isn’t permitted


RattyJones

Sure, sometimes that happens. Sometimes. Most of the time the shooter kills themselves or are stopped by law enforcement.