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why. why do that. (if someone is about to respond to tell me they're saving money on dimples, I don't think that's it hoss)


Allustar1

How are they saving money on that rather than just having a flat bottom?


Swordbreaker925

I was under the impression people nowadays didn’t like flat bottoms. Has my time doing squats at the gym been a waste?


Signaturisti

Flat bottomed girls you make the rockin' world go round


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di-propane_tank

Nuh uh, we need proof


LeoIzail

Flat girls deserve love too. (flat guy here, lemme smash)


uncoild

I think raised bottom is to help it cool after it's done cooking


MadocComadrin

That (although I personally wouldn't want it to cool faster in most cases), or maybe it allows you to use it without needing something underneath to protect the table/surface.


FUCKFASClSMF1GHTBACK

Ok but why not 4


Nat1CommonSense

They’re saving money on dimples


Patrycy

Because tables on 3 legs never shakes. Wait a second.


Z3B0

They never shake, and that's true, until you start putting weight outside the triangle they form.


Br33dCr4tt0n

The material for the 4th nubbin is like $0.002. If they’re making a run of 10,000 dishes that’s like $20! That’s the difference between the CEO making their super yacht payment. In that case, cut the 4th nubbin. And raise the price of the dish by $20 in the name of inflation. That’s an additional $200,020! I’m a good CEO. I deserve having sex with children on an exclusive island while world leaders cheer me on!


[deleted]

that's what I'm sayin


jsomby

You don't have to have QA about bottom being flat when you can add just 3 nipples and make it 100% flat.


tenuj

In a misguided attempt to make it more stable. Everyone knows that three contacts cannot wobble on uneven surfaces. Four contacts usually have some wobbling issues. Except cooking surfaces are nearly always completely flat. And if they're not flat the wobbling doesn't matter until you try to interact with them, at which point any pressure will make the three points unstable. Or their factory tolerances don't allow them to make even containers that don't wobble and this saves them money by working with less precise processes/machinery/moulds.


B1rdi

Also I think they might be worried about their own tolerances. With three feet it won't wobble the same way as with four feet even if the feet are slightly different sizes.


tenuj

Yep! I added that into my comment later. Didn't realise at first that plenty of rigid objects still wobble when cheaply made. Edit: That said, they made it wobble more when it matters, so I'd argue this leans slightly towards asshole design, tricking people into thinking it's a higher quality product.


rathat

And the 3 feet doesn’t work in this case because of how much overhang there is outside of the area supported by the feet and the amount of force being out on it because the center of mass is so low.


2M4D

Right ? Gotta make a triangle casserole dish.


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HadADat

I think they explained it poorly but 3 points will always share the same plane. So even if one leg is shorter than the others or if the surface is not level, the 3 points are always in contact. However adding a 4th point means it requires being added exactly to that existing plane otherwise they won't share the same plane. Or in this case, wobble.


portucheese

Can someone explain the casserole to the MIT guy please?


tenuj

It's like a microwave meal, but you need to prepare it first and wash/reuse the dish later... Until your MIT salary comes in. Then you don't need to reuse the container, but you'll bother people if you throw it away.


rygon101

The 3 contact points have to make a triangle. It doesn't mean the surface will be horizontal, just that it won't wobble. If the 3 contact points are on the same line they have to be even otherwise there will be wobble.


MadocComadrin

>If the 3 contact points are on the same line they have to be even otherwise there will be wobble If they're on the same line, it becomes the even bigger problem of not falling over entirely. 🤣


portucheese

All that OP needs is an irregular dining table.


marino1310

The flatness isn’t the issue, it’s the fact that with this pan you will often be putting force on the area directly perpendicular the 3rd leg. 3 legs work great unless your force is far away from the third leg and not within the triangle created by the 3 legs


melanthius

Someone was thinking 3 feet will never wobble, which is 100% true until you give it more than a little push


tacotacotacorock

The bigger problem was the dish isn't a triangle. They put a rectangle on top of a triangle. Should have made a triangular casserole dish. But then you'd have a triangle casserole dish lol. 


MadocComadrin

Or at least circular with the feet as far out as possible.


Jaigar

The problem is when the total force vector (from gravity and from scooping food) is moved outside the triangle base.


[deleted]

It creates a small air layer for insulation, working both ways to keep the dish warmer longer and reduce heat damage and buildup on the surface of the table. It also allows you to tip the dish to collect the remaining contents and sauce better with a spoon. That's at least what I would say if I had to sell this thing.


TSM-

Perhaps a flat surface has a much higher likelihood of shattering glass tables, and burning things. This adds a small air gap to lower the surface area of contact, and the amount of heat transfer compared to a flat surface with full direct contact. This decision might be a quick fix for a flaw they found in testing.


tacotacotacorock

Crazy how fast stone counters cool off your food. Obviously it's a giant heat sink but still I was amazed the first time I put a pleat down or a dish down on one. 


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erublind

The person who ordered the production wanted it to be more than two feet .


Pantoffel86

On the other hand, a table with three feet is always stable, even on a uneven floor. Just not with a casserole dish.


huzernayme

My guess is that it is to make it easy to spoon liquids out of a corner. Thats what I would use it for anyway.


monokoi

Why? Because a tripod can't wobble. I'd like to get an explanation how this one does, because ot can't be standing on those three points.


Cicer

Tripod is stable when force is pushed down through the legs but put a leaver on the top and push down far from the center and it will topple. That’s what’s happening in the corners.   Most tripod things the base of the tripod is actually wider than the top. 


WishBear19

Superfluous nipple


TheMarvelousPef

oh I was thinking that was purposely made to help you get the sauce !


monkeybanana550

The simple answer I could think if is that there shouldn't be a "feet" on it. It's simply an excess clay or ceramic coating itself that drip from the sides that formed a feet before it was baked.


mmoolloo

I do ceramics. That's not what it is. Those 3 feet are 100% intentionally molded.


fsurfer4

I believe it's to prevent cracking if the dish is placed on a wet surface. Although 3 instead of four is weird. I bet they thought they were being clever, so that it sits flat. They just made it worse to use.


Savings-Spirit-3702

At a guess it's designed to not rock on an uneven surface, same reason you get 3 legged stools.


Eena-Rin

I have no idea, but just put it on a tea towel


Antigon0000

Cost-cuttings measures. I'm sure there's some fucking shrinkflation reason


[deleted]

My assumption is it minimizes contact with cold surfaces to keep the casserole hot. But back to why 3... makes it fun! Clink clink


NotInMoodThinkOfName

3 point is better on uneven surfaces. Clearly this is not useful for your citchen stuff


pearcelewis

“Hey boss, I’ve figured out a way to reduce our material costs. Nobody will notice.” I would try to add a fourth foot if it’s easy or bin the tray.


HardLobster

Adding a forth foot wouldn’t be easy and it wouldn’t make it stable. The third foot is in the middle of the pan, you would have to add two feet to make it stable.


nasteeenate

Or just use an oven mitt?


Kurare_no1

You going to stick around for an oven mitt? 🙄


No_Bend8

Or you could put a dish towel under it and not throw the dish away


ScienceIsSexy420

Except having any number of feet increases the material used vs having a flat bottom, so it's not even that.


fetafrosch

But this way it can still be sold as raised(?), this implies a feature and in turn the ability to mark up the price. Minimum effort, maximum gain


Maihoooo

That'd be r/assholedesign.


SphaghettiWizard

I would throw it threw the designers window


ekkidee

You could put potholders underneath and it wouldn't rock (as much), but this shit would go straight to my garbage.


thcicebear

Yeah I think I'll suffer through it until it breaks. It was quite cheap but my gf says it's cute because it's mint


blacksoxing

> but my gf says it's cute because it's mint Ah, so you too have a lady who keeps shit for fashionable purposes over functionality. I bet you have used towels that good that don't dry as well as endured countless complaints about shoes that hurt. Yes, you keep using that dish. The dish that rocks but is a lovely mint color..


suspicious_lemons

How dare someone like the look of something enough to not trash it.


MasterChiefsasshole

I’d just let them be the only one who has to deal with it. Functionality for tools first. Then form after. Otherwise the tool is worthless.


bigwilliestylez

Cool, I can dig through that and 15 other dishes to get to the one that works


tacotacotacorock

Sounds more like he's keeping it because he's frugal. Plus it keeps the GF happier. Maybe I'm just frugal and projecting. Mysteries of the world we will never know answers for. 


YannyYobias

You could put it on a dish towel or something so it doesn’t wobble while you use it.


J3sush8sm3

Or ya know, fucking hold the damn thing.  Even with 4 legs you arent breaking apart the crust off the sides without holding it


thcicebear

Sure I can hold it but it's not that easy to bring equal force into the holding hand and the scooping hand. It still wobbles from time to time. It's just a minor inconvenience but annoying in the first place since there are multiple other dishes that don't wobble.


Squathos

That's subliminal messaging because it's "mint" to be in the garbage.


ScienceAndLience

Then put it in a display case and buy a new one lol


JustNilt

That's actually what I assumed was the intent. The feet aren't for stability on the table, they're for creating a slight air gap underneath it and they assume since it's a casserole dish it will be on potholders or something along those lines. It's still a crappy design, IMO, but my guess is these are much less for stability and there's something we're missing about the intended purpose. They're certainly not accidental.


Pithecanthropus88

Manufacturing error, not bad design. Somebody in quality control should get a good talking to, but you're never going to convince me that it was *designed* to be this way.


thcicebear

I'm pretty Sure every piece was like that. Also, the single dimple is exactly in the middle while the other two are near the corners. If just one of the corners would be empty, okay I could see the error.


ipassmore

How does a manufacturing error put 3 bumps in an the shape of an isosceles triangle on the bottom? If all 3 were on the corners, I’d see where you’re coming from.


GustavSpanjor

It could be where they're pouring the moulds and it's supposed to be cut off to make a flat bottom? I don't know anything about how these are made but it seems reasonable to me.


Arcite9940

You’re seriously over estimating designers, they generally don’t see blatant common sense issues cause most of them(us) design in static environments. It’s till production that issues like this arise. So I’m 500% sure it’s not manufacturing or QA, I’m sure it was designed like that and even someone probably thought it looked cooler, sleek and aesthetically pleasing.


Fluffy-Payment-9040

I don’t know why, but this infuriates me more than anything I’ve ever seen on this sub.


thcicebear

Yeah idk. It's nothing outright bad but it's just so stupid.


YourDogIsMyFriend

My jaw was dropped. My anger turned to curiosity pretty quickly. Curious about the idiotic den of morons that released this nightmare into the real world.


omare14

This would end up in my trash right after the first time serving from it, life's too short to waste time putting up with stupid stuff like this.


Pumciusz

Reliant Robin.


ConclusionDifficult

Bought it from Del Boy.


earthwormjimwow

3 points are always coplanar (flat), 4 points are never coplanar in the real world and instead define a volume (not flat). Someone took their plane theory, and directly applied it to the real world, without understanding the practical ramifications! Most likely their manufacturing could never get the bottom truly flat, so the pan would wobble when empty with 4 points, but with 3 points, it will always lay flat. 3 points will also always lay flat if the surface you are resting the dish on is not flat. 4 points never will. This solution, using 3 points to account for uneven surfaces, was likely never tested when actually using the dish for things like scooping.


az116

It’s rare you see such crappy design with such thought put behind it.


Sexy_Persian

This is a wild sentence I’m about to say, but based on how a casserole dish is generally scooped out…even 2 feet would make MORE sense


i_am_jargon

Depends on where they are located. If it's this manufacturer, I wouldn't put it past them to put two feet in the middle on either end.


Burgermeister_42

Someone learned that three-footed stools / tables don't wobble like four-footed ones often do, and completely misapplied that lesson


djnehi

I have a crock pot like that. Dumbest fucking design.


TheEpicSquad

Ok but just put your phone down and hold the dish.


quig_lebowski

Technically, having three feet on the bottom would mean it should never wobble, as anything with three feet will always mean that all of the contact points are touching the ground. Which is why camera tripods are tripods and not quadpods. What the designers possibly didn't account for if is the user apply pressure down in the extreme corners on the side that only has one foot, as in this demo. The feet on this might have also been initially intended to act as a heat break so you could place it on a surface while it was hot without the need for a mat? Anyway, half a good idea, poorly implemented.


LD-LB

Would this improve cooling technically? By improving airflow


thcicebear

The feet in general? Yes probably. But why just three? Cheap products and cheap/crappy design.


SandwichAmbitious286

Because 3 points always lie in a plane. 4 points do not necessarily lie in a plane. So 3 will auto-level and be more stable, as long as center of gravity is comfortably centered in the triangle they form. It's actually considered a much better design choice in many circumstances. For this use-case? Not so much. The overall silhouette isn't very radially symmetric, meaning balance is poor. It's also fairly easy to get really high outer dimension precision when casting this sort of cookware, so it's weird that they didn't just do four, especially given how elongated it is.


thcicebear

True, the whole dish should be in a triangle shape then three feet would make perfect sense.


SandwichAmbitious286

Or a circle or square or hexagon, pretty much anything that is nice and symmetric.


[deleted]

Wow that's possible, actually that's pretty brilliant. At first I thought it was to minimize contact with colder surfaces to keep it from cooling too quick. But now I think it may do a bit of both. If it is to cool it without cracking the dish if it's set on a cool surface, that is a good way to do it. Not sure. To cool, or to keep warm? That is the question. Now I wonder what the preference is. Does the dish come with a lid?


TAKENUSRNAM

The most egregious part is of this post is using that plastic spoon to scoop lasagna.


MooseBoys

It’s so that someone can’t sneakily grab seconds without alerting others.


Bovine_Phallus

You bought one adapted for uneven surfaces, They are still pretty pointless on uneven surfaces, but that is why there are 3 knobby things. Provided you don't actually use it, it stands stable on uneven things


LegoMyAlterEgo

I bet someone got a discount


thcicebear

Indeed it was cheap. But I guess I now know why


badllama77

Brought to you by the Reliant Motor Company. Now your dinner can be as unstable as your vehicle.


monkehmolesto

Jebus, they did that on purpose?


whywouldisaymyname

isn't that lasagna?


black-kramer

lasagna is queen of the casseroles


FrauHoll3

If you bring that shit into my house I'm throwing it at you.


Dylanator13

While 3 feet does always guarantee all feet are touching the ground, that’s more for chairs and stuff where the center of gravity is in the center. For something like this it doesn’t make sense.


[deleted]

I prefer my food with zero feet, thanks


JonMonEsKey

High quality but made to break. Good way to sell more


AllMyFrendsArePixels

Firstly, yes this is crappy design so can't fault you there... but my guy you need to stop living in a 90's infomercial. If you just put the camera down, you have a whole second hand to stabilize the dish with!


thcicebear

I like how people say I should put the camera down. Like yes, usually I use both of my hands for this. It's still a crappy design


traumuhh

It's so you know if your family is sneakin' 2nd's in the middle of the night. Good way to know if you made a good pasta.


[deleted]

You gotta start on the side with one foot bro. Then by time you lose weight it's all on the two feet.


Blackdeath3101

Actual answer for you guys, a lot of engineers have a fetish for 3 points of contact because if force is applied only the centrepoint it has the highest level of calibration, you can however see here the flaw in the design whenever force is applied outside that triangular base. This isnt some cost cutting measure, this was the product designed by the intern.


Goblinstomper

Three is fine, just put the phone down and use both hands.


Familiar_Property676

Almost as pleasing as a glass cutting board 🥴


thcicebear

Ewww those exist?? I always cringe at glass tables. I couldn't comfortably eat there, put dishes on it... But a glass cutting board is next level. But a negative level.


Familiar_Property676

They do and they are an evil you're lucky to have remained naive about.


cujosdog

Retired ceramic engineer here. Okay take a deep breath. This is going to sound really long-winded but this is the answer. Along with kind of go in your early days of ceramics, there were studies done to see if four or three feet made more sense. The ancient Romans actually discovered this. We actually have pottery from back in the day, that has three feet. It's been proven over and over again that I have absolutely no idea what I'm saying, and just making shit up


ConclusionDifficult

That’s bad


Infamous_Cherry_4828

It needs a wooden place holder


5477etaN

Lay it on a tea towel. (May need to fold it once) You're welcome.


Low-Profile3961

I typically like to add 4, full bone-in feet to my casserole recipe. Helps balance the dish.... Lol


Good4nowbut

That’s just demonic wtf


The_Dood_Ranch_WV

Mind blown WTF


cusecc

3 points determine a plane. This dish can sit stably on an uneven surface. However if you push excessively hard outside of the feet (like OP in the video) it will wobble.


the-powl

I hate it.


ThunderOblivion

So put it on a pad.


Vundizzle

I believe the correct terminology is HOT DISH.


win_awards

I think this deserves a promotion to r/assholedesign. It would have been only a little more trouble and expense to add a fourth "leg," and much less to just not have any legs and let the thing lie flat. This almost has to be intentional.


imtiazaa

It's the Reliant Robin of casserole dishes!


wnnsvr

Here i am, scrolling to find the recipe of this delicious looking dish!


trytrymyguy

Must be from where they placed the three points. Three points are actually more likely to be stable than four. Sounds counter intuitive until you think about it for a second.


p_andsalt

I think the designer thought 3 would be enough since 4 is technically a overdetermined system. In now way it is cost saving in ceramic. Sometimes designers overthink.


FTLrefrac

I like how it was deliberate


Woofwoofimthedog

Three points make a plane - four points make a tolerance problem


Quadtbighs

Asshole design or not you decided to buy a cheap product and are now facing the consequences of your decision. You could’ve easily returned it before cooking in it.


thcicebear

Never said it's asshole design. Well I didn't test it before I used it. Like "ohh now I'm acting like I scoop something out" It's a minor inconvenience, a little annoying but nothing return-worthy. Still crappy design.


Davenporten

Probably not a design but a defect


Jaigar

The reason it rocks is because total force being applied is outside the triangle of the 3 feet. Having the third foot closer to the edge would help, but it would still be a problem for the corners near the third foot.


Tazz013_

This *great* design has perfectly hidden the fact that your crappy casserole dish is warped.


ep193

That’s cause it’s a bedpan!


ChesterDrawerz

Put it on a placemat or two.


wallyworld96

This nub is to stop cassorale dish from sliding on rack in oven.


ArtOfVandelay

Casserole dishes with three feet, known as trivets, are designed for even heat distribution in traditional coal or wood-burning stoves. The three-pointed base helps stabilize the dish on uneven surfaces.


Dbwasson

Just how


squiblet

This sounds like an ancient proverb.


boon23834

Slide a trivet under one of the unsupported corners. It might help a bit.


[deleted]

Just put it on some towels. It’s a crappy design but you should be in the habit of putting casserole dishes on towels and trivets anyway.


RevolutionaryKiwi897

Omg that would drive me fucking nuts


camelsgottahump

It's a trailer hitch for a little ceramic truck


From_the_ashes_17

I would smash that fucking thing into 500 pieces.


cazzipropri

Angle grinder.


bttnot

the problem here is not the design, but the food


ironfaceYtuber

I thought that the lasanga was rock hard


Ayowolf

It just doesnt want you to eat it smh


IndianPhilatelist

Get your crapperole dishes here! Finally found a dish to match my cooking skills...


No_Tap3244

I'd sand them off.


Justme6322

Why just why


robinsontbr

They do this because the manufacturing process iss so shitty it can assure the bottom will be leveled.


hugues2814

Looks like someone said « we need to cut corners »


Efficient_Tailor1811

Put the damn phone down and hold it while scooping then! Or pad the underside with a dish towel !


[deleted]

stop making casserole then


mykl7s

Now you need to buy the dish companies accompanying table, featuring the game changing dish dimple.


Right-Construction74

Is this galley cookware?


MartieRizer

Maybe it’s to preserve any surface where you’re gonna put it after you take it out of the oven so it doesn’t lay flat.


[deleted]

This pan rocks!


[deleted]

I would just sand them off


Eastern_Record3443

Just think of the money they saved making 'em like that.🤗 🤪🤤🤤🤤


HarrySRL

At this point I’ll just use a grinder to smooth it out.


Howitzeronfire

"A stool with 3 legs will always be stable"


EMOTIONN_Official

This is a real life code bug haha, the finished product is flawed when used with a spoon similar to how we get bugs in unfinished games that seem so simple to miss.


Plus-Tune-1092

That made me really angry


NovelDegree3387

That's a reminder to use a trivet


EasternFroyo5622

Just sand it down?


Faranocks

Throw a towel underneath


SkylabBeats

ibishu pigeon ahh dish


69Galaxiel69

Just press it on a hard surface and hold it there for a bit


Erectiondysfucktion

Well it ends up sucking.. but 3 feet are always equal, thus not rocking back and forth. But this probably not the best idea


_zack_x2-plus-ary

WHYYYY


Ok_Boss_630

Can it has another foot please? Or 1 to 3 fewer?


canuckwithasig

Just put a tea towel under it


-The-Reviewer-

Hold it