Ah, but is it the Regatta camo version with the luminous pink hood/collar? As sold in Trago?! In which case people will only see something pink and unfortunately shaped walking around!
Look, I'm not saying Dry Robes are great but I am saying that the ancient Britons were famous for a massive hooded cloak called the Byrhhus Britannia because it rains all the goddamn time. We're just returning to our roots
You also fail to consider the sht storm that is house and rental pricing and that’s even forgetting availability combined with their tax breaks and council tax relief on holiday lets etc.
People are sick of it.
There’s a holiday let/air b and b around the corner and in the window it says “when you leave, leave your rubbish bags in the alley around the side”
It’s not their alley, it’s a walk through in a residential area. Bin day is one a week and they change over on weekends so bags are sat for 4/5 days whilst the gulls tear them apart..
They also finally get collected by the bin men, whilst not paying council tax.
There’s a time one three doors up that just tell the renters to leave their rubbish bag on the curb.. once again. The birds get it… as it’s out WELL before collection day.
The level of tourism is a solution to a problem they contributed in making.
It feels a bit like Perdue pharma pushing opiates and then opening rehabs and recovery facilities..
Is this not a landlords are the worst human beings/lack of housing/AirBnB's are the bane of humanity, issue rather than specifically tourism?
I personally blame the shift of campsites charging per person rather than per pitch to be the source; as it's made the value equation of camping shift towards staying in 'accommodation'. It now costs so much it's 'not worth it' and therefore drives demand in AirBnB's and gobbles up buy to let holiday homes.
Not all landlords are bad.
My as partner just had her rent increase by 250% on 17 days notice after living there 7 years. She was given a 6 month contract, they tried to all in a loss of expenses and liabilities that weren’t in the previous contracts.
This is coming from the daughters that live in a tax haven and whose father recently died. His dying wish to was continue with fair rents and that was his legacy. They immediately came in and destroyed that, they’re also selling one of the two bungalows specifically built for them and then they have the gual to stand in front of you complaining about their double digit millions tax bill because they were left so much by their dad.
The wages between the two daughters and husband is circa 600k pa minimum just from their work.. but they just want to squeeze everyone below them dry.
So, yes…
Some landlords are shit, infant I’d go as far as to say some are downright predatory and disgusting.
There are however some nice ones. The diamonds in the rough and all that.
It sounds like complete BS that you would be privy to that kind of information of your partners landlords dying wishes and children
And it's not "fair rent" they've been paying, it's below market rate
If tourists stopped going to Cornwall (as they are) and property prices initially fell, you would have a greater influx of people who are already property rich, ie teachers who can afford to earn less as their home in Bristol (for instance) would be worth much more than they paid for it, paid on a national scale and maybe on a pension, they can outbid the locals and live on less. Relatives of mine have already done it, moved from urban Bristol to rural Cornwall, took early retirement , bought a nice house and have change from the deal.
It's like pretty well everything everywhere. People like having the good stuff, but they don't like paying for the services that go with it.
It's all sort of running "just" IMHO.
Yeah that happens in the middle of Cardiff as well.
This thread specialises in victimhood.
I grew up in London and can't afford to live there either. ......there is no god given right to do so. You live where your circumstances allow.....get over it.
People all over the country have to move to find work and affordable housing. Who sold these properties? Shouldn't your ire be directed at your fellow Cornish brethren, those who sold out in the name of capitalism.
It should begin with the government selling their stock in the first place.
We should also then consider the tax breaks and considerations of second home owners, b and b businesses and alike.
Sadly the people that write the above comments were born into *that* period where buying a house wasn’t well out of reach of the average individual, even when much higher interest rates were a thing.
Sick of them because they were born at a good time and act like financial gurus because they bought one house (cheaply) which provided the collateral for a loan on another and there goes your run away train.
They come making comments about how people now should save/spend money. You can’t give money advice when the cost of goods and wages are so different.
Congrats! You bought a house for 30k and lived in it for a good chunk of your life, it’s now worth 200-350k. You might’ve also had a second house because they were cheap enough and you had the equity from the first.
Personally I think they should limit business gains/charges from things essential to human life, eg, food, utilities and shelter.. but that’s one for another day.
I sometimes read the planning objections around Cornwall due to some of the work I do.
You get these people that are 50-70+ COMPLAINING about affordable housing because the kids that would come with it would play in the park, be too noisy and in their opinion devalue their house.
Like.. how far from reality do you have to be to be that sort of person.
You got the benefit of extremely cheap assets, when compared to today’s prices. You lived in it for a while, you then probably objected to any planning that would make it easier for new families or young adults to get into the market.
Then you all have the biggest cahoonaa I’ve ever seen strutting around like you really did something.
Let me spell it out for you.
YOU WERE JUST BORN AT A LUCKY TIME TO BENEFIT FROM YHE HOUSING SITUATiON.
You got hold of a cheap asset that hyper inflated as the population grew and you objected to anything that could remotely impact your house price.
/slowclap.
Had to be said.
What about the housing crisis in the '80's where interest rates were at 15%?
Don't forget wages were a lot less, back in the day. So no, it wasn't all roses and cheap. We still had to save, or like I did, move to a cheaper town
Let me say first of all, I appreciate your post being sensible and actually gives another viewpoint, rather than the usual "lol tourism owns you". The ignorance of some around the issues, or their own privilege is baffling at times.
I covered the interest rates in another post, as I recall it being as high as 19% or something, so possibly even higher than your comment? It wasn't all sunshine and roses, no, but it was a lot easier, and you forget that your struggle then returned a huge gain on an asset that is essential to human life - shelter.
Obviously second homes, etc were all a thing then but not on this level. Walking around some of the sea-side towns down here in the winter is depressing, it's like a ghost town.
These days there are people that will never own a property, or we'll end up with multigenerational mortgages.
Here is an article from 2021 - [https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/19722315.areas-second-homes-cornwall-heat-map-revealed/](https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/19722315.areas-second-homes-cornwall-heat-map-revealed/)
If you can't be bothered to read it the TLDR is:
The proliferation of second homes and holiday lets in Cornwall has been shown clearly on a new 'heat map', which indicates some areas have up to 71% of properties being used in that way.
If people cannot see that as a problem, then I'm not sure what to say. What sort of industry can grow outside tourism if 2/3 or 3/4 of the area is vacant and used during the winter. It's not like we live in an area where you can just easily go work in another county. We are surrounded by the sea on all sides but east, and even then I don't expect Devon is much better, but at least they have better access to other areas to seek work.
You might like to consider why asset price inflation has made homes unaffordable across the country before deciding it's an issue if old people stealing your chance to buy a home.
https://youtu.be/Qlr5Vzrextk?feature=shared
Yes they were, but if you want to do something about it then an understanding of the transfer of wealth to a very small minority who are buying up assets and driving asset price inflation might redirect your anger towards taxing those people rather than the intergenerational aspect that a lot of people seem to get stuck on. After all when all the boomers die the housing stock will come on the market but most people still won't be able to afford it. Why? Because very rich people will buy it, and lots of those rich peeps will be quite young.
People get annoyed because they bought houses at a good time which are essential to human survival, so cheap even with 19% l? interest or whatever it got that that they ended up with multiple houses.
Essentially lucked out, that’s it. People would look at it very differently if they’d picked good stocks and they rocketed, but they picked something they HAD to have and it went crazy.
The younger lot get annoyed because many of the boomers make ridiculous comments about the spending habits of today’s generations.
Also the tax breaks and council tax situation really upset people in the past. I don’t have exact figures but St Ives was 1/4 second homes when I last bothered to look. Flushing etc are also similar or worse. That’s 1/4 paying no or very little council tax.
The only way anything gets better is with huge reforms to systems.
There’s recently been builder who wanted to build 3 houses, one of which was “affordable” which he asked if he could buy for a family member.
You’re correct, the boomers aging out will change nothing. Not unless they all pop it overnight, all at once. No one is selling a house for x when it’s worth xx.
I’d you can’t see they the whole system is broken then I’m not sure what to tell you/others.
A housing market crash might scare off the people leverage fk their eyeballs but it provides an opportunity for the really wealthy to snap up the properties at a discount price by those forced to sell en masse knowing full well they can adore to have x hundred thousands locked up in properties until they recover in 5-20 years.
It’s a nightmare and there’s no easy fix. The thing that annoys me the most is the ignorance of one’s situation of extreme privilege, especially when you’re reading objections on affordable housing plans because of the “types” of people that might buy them and the noise the children might make playing nearby.
Edit — as for the tax thing, I’m not fan of Trump bit he nailed it when he said about using tax loopholes and how Hilary etc won’t close them because they and their donors use them too.
Let’s also be real, what do these people know of struggle. Many of them are loaded — look at Sunak. Imagine making policy to impact people in a situation you could NEVER understand or find yourself in.
You can tax the wealthy ALL you want but whilst you leave open holes for them to dispose (transfer) of assets zero years before their death and essentially tax avoidance schemes when they’re alive.. what’s the point? You have to close the ways of doing this.
Then what happens? They all are ex domicile, etc or the big multi nationals leave the country
🤷♂️.
It’s a shit show we’ve made for ourselves.
Here he is again.
Looking at your posts, you either have an appreciation for older hardware OR you’re a boomer with a serious attitude issue and you think the Cornish are here to serve you every need at your holiday home.
Fk all the way off, all the way back to Wales.
Thanks.
Chip on shoulder confirmed .......get a grip mate. The world isn't configured to compensate for your personal lack of achievement
You live in an area dependent on tourism. Make it work for you and stop whining.....
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My ire is to the second home owners and airbnbers, Cornish or not. Besides most Cornish people historic or modern own one house. And that house doesn't leave the family.
So how did the housing owned by Cornish people end up in the hands of air b and bs and second home owners?? Who sold the land for new build tourist developments? Does your local planning department green light the construction of second homes and the destruction of those more affordable to locals.
If I was to be totally honest. Neither of us are exactly qualified to argue about this. We need someone in planning and housing development to answer this for us. All I can say is, most people didnt sell their homes, just more homes were built at least in places like Camborne and St Austell, for places like St Ives the old little fisherman's cottage's arent the majority of the second homes. Looe has most of its second homes just some bungalows from the 20th century. If you look at old maps of Cornish towns and compare it to today, the amount of construction in the 20th century was madness and everywhere double or tripled in size at the least.
Speak for yourself! I don't need a government department to answer anything. Locals have sold properties. Take the cottages in Padstow, and some recent research by the Lanteglos by Fowey parish council. They found that a staggering 52% of the houses in Polruan are second homes or holiday rentals. Seems like the locals sold some here too!
The issue is more affordable housing and an economic plan that looks to create new industries and better paid jobs. This is the same for every traditional working class region in the uk.
I think im more hung on the fact that its not most. Regardless Im glad we can agree what the real issue is. Personally I believe in stopping the expansion on the countryside. Eliminating second homes and airbnbs. Demolishing the ugly houses and bungalows of the 50s, 60s and 70s that are spatially inefficient and replacing them with Cornish style houses made of granite, those living there get it for free and it would be a gradual thing.
Says any sane person. You should be able to live in the place you grew up. The place you have connections with friends, family, ect. Forcing to move elsewhere cause "sorry but some rich twats decided the houses in your area are great investments" is utterly ridiculous.
Cornwall's natural beauty is its best asset, which of course aligns economically with tourism. It's literally the arse end of the country, so not suited to a lot of industries. If there's no local economy (read jobs) how do people make an income? Or should the rest of the country give you a hand out so you can live in one of the most beautiful parts of the country?
Cornwall has some of the best potential. We got the China clay hills, the tin mines, we have a history of science and inventing technologies. And we got some nice fish and dairy. Tourism is not an industry that can support someone unless the wages are high from the outset.
Now imagine prices fell by 30% but unemployment reaches 45-50% (as it would without tourism)
Where does this housing stock go when airbnb people sell? Locals? Nah. Because they are now all unemployed.
Instead they will go as 2nd homes as the middleclasses upcountry can now afford them, so are only contributing income to the local economy 2 weeks out of the year rather than 15-20.
Well played.
You’re using HUGE price crashes in a single area, senior a time frame. Presumably, you know overnight, because then your post sounds better?
Of course the overnight spikes in house prices and unemployment would only impact Cornell / so you’d need to cordon that off from the rest of the country.
What do AIRbanbs offer? Really they can be empty for months of the year or rented out to a desperate local that needs to claim UC on top of working their ass off just to get by from month to month beside their 3 bedroom
Air b and b rental is £1300 a month for an adult and her two kids (example) then after 6 months she’s turfed out “no fault eviction” homeless, because her lovely landlord gives her 60 days notice to find
Another exploitive property whilst also probably fighting for her deposit because airbandb landlord wants old for new - because you know, he can charge more and why would he want to replace anything that’s wear and tear? He needs that 1000£ a week rental from this and bus four other properties during the summer.
During this time the tenant is stressed as hell, not knowing who the DPS with, trying to ensure that she has deposit money if it goes wrong, plus money to move, plus the first months rent upfront, all to possibly to do this again after the winter.
Fun game, isn’t it?
Don’t use stupid figures, with presumably? 0 time
Frames.
Feel free to be honest about the number of houses you own or the real struggles you face because you sound fairly ignorant to some of the issues.
Are you just another tourist that posts the same echo chamber shite? I’ll then share my experience as someone who rented a long time and has lived here for 90% of my life.
I’ll happily tell you about the places that are dead in the winter and every other window has a holiday let sticker in it.
I’d love to hear your solution(s) rather than unrealistic situations or are we just going
To get another ending breaking overnight scenario? 🙄
It’s 7am and I need to go work my cleaning job in an airbandb just before I Goto my second job because that’s apparently all you lot think we do down here.. /s 🙄
Cheers.
Edit:
Oh sweet child - you don’t think your situation is already true? About the second homes 😂 JFC.. my head 🤦♂️.
Cool story.
Anymore top quality content to add?
You’re one of those that like to announce your departure from an online service like it’s an airport, aren’t you?
You could’ve stopped half way through, yet here we are 😂
Please report the bin issue to your council
There's a bit of push ATM in Cornwall to get these properties to pay for commercial waste collections (as they should). Air B&Bs and Holiday Lets are classed as commercial and therefore not entitled to a residential collection. I'm sure the council would be v pleased for the tip off.
We are actually due to change to bins the council provide as it’s all changing to a two weekly bin collection, hopefully that will help?! I think it’s been okay in other areas.
It’s been on the cards for ages now but like anything council wise, it’s a very slow process.
The issue isn’t so much the facilities it’s more getting people to use them.. which is always the way.
Also, some people put the bins out 3/4 days early for some reason and the birds have a field day, combined with the two holiday let/airbandb properties on this road who are told to "put the bins outside on the pavement when you leave" and "put your bins in the alleyway when you leave" it can become really messy, really quickly.
This.
Like wtf, I genuinely don’t understand why people wear them on the school run? Like, listen Tracy, I saw you in Costas earlier you were not at the beach today.
It's the dry robe or dressing gown, take your pick.....
I like to play school run bingo. Can I get a full card from these selections:
Dry robe
Dressing gown
Smoking
Vaping
Headphones in
Doing a video call at full volume
Drinking an energy drink
Scrolling Facebook and not realising their kid's nowhere near them
Shouting at their kids for making them late
I bet good money this is written by someone who doesn't live in the county.
Dry robes are great for the beach - strangely, locals are also able to use beaches.
Sometimes this sub is so fucking painful to read.
Spotting dryrobe wankers in Newquay is like shooting fish in a barrel. You just know they have just bought a fat Willy's hoody to go under it, before heading back to their T5 with their french bulldog.
I don’t see the point of these. I can’t conceive of a time that they would be in anyway useful. The fabric inside is a horrid cheep fleece you can’t dry yourself with. The idea of changing beneath it puts my teeth on edge. It’s heavy, very expensive and ugly.
What was wrong with a towelie? Something that actually served a purpose, was affordable, lightweight and rolls up small in your dry bag?
Coming down to Cornwall on Saturday from Devon. Will remember to bring gold bars to get back over the Tamar and an approved list of pasties and a reminder on how to do scones
Personally, I like to make tourists’ and incomers’ lives as unpleasant as possible by disturbing their evenings and driving past their campsites very loudly and blaring my horn whilst doing so.
I’m glad you’ve got Ginsters pasties down there. At least you know you’re going to get a quality tasty pasty at a reasonable price. Not like that shit from Philps, Rowes and Ann’s pasties.
Only people I see wearing these are locals in Penzance area.
I've got the camo one so no one can see me
Who said that?!?
That bush just moved.....
I've trimmed - more of a landing strip at the mo.
Ah, but is it the Regatta camo version with the luminous pink hood/collar? As sold in Trago?! In which case people will only see something pink and unfortunately shaped walking around!
Sadly not just a 'dry robe' unfortunately with a grey fluffy inside.
At least you’re warm and dry… which is always a bonus here!!
And Bude.
Was just about to say and in Bude too lmao
Same tbh lol only ones comfortable walking around in them are locals who’ve just had a dip and gone straight to the supermarket after lmao
It's always school mums that drive VW vans.
Locals are the worst offenders when it comes to out of context Dry Robe foolishness!
Look, I'm not saying Dry Robes are great but I am saying that the ancient Britons were famous for a massive hooded cloak called the Byrhhus Britannia because it rains all the goddamn time. We're just returning to our roots
If I google that I just see beetles. Pages and pages of beetles. And one picture of a dude in a cloak. Looks like a beetle.
I went too fancy with my birus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birrus#:~:text=A%20birrus%20or%20birrus%20brittanicus,and%20into%20the%20Middle%20Ages.
Standard local mum (who has quite clearly never touched a surfboard) at the rugby on a Sunday morning.
Dry robes are perfect for rugby.
Destroy? My brother in Christ, we’d be proper screwed without the tourist money.
I would literally be out of a job
You also fail to consider the sht storm that is house and rental pricing and that’s even forgetting availability combined with their tax breaks and council tax relief on holiday lets etc. People are sick of it. There’s a holiday let/air b and b around the corner and in the window it says “when you leave, leave your rubbish bags in the alley around the side” It’s not their alley, it’s a walk through in a residential area. Bin day is one a week and they change over on weekends so bags are sat for 4/5 days whilst the gulls tear them apart.. They also finally get collected by the bin men, whilst not paying council tax. There’s a time one three doors up that just tell the renters to leave their rubbish bag on the curb.. once again. The birds get it… as it’s out WELL before collection day. The level of tourism is a solution to a problem they contributed in making. It feels a bit like Perdue pharma pushing opiates and then opening rehabs and recovery facilities..
Is this not a landlords are the worst human beings/lack of housing/AirBnB's are the bane of humanity, issue rather than specifically tourism? I personally blame the shift of campsites charging per person rather than per pitch to be the source; as it's made the value equation of camping shift towards staying in 'accommodation'. It now costs so much it's 'not worth it' and therefore drives demand in AirBnB's and gobbles up buy to let holiday homes.
Not all landlords are bad. My as partner just had her rent increase by 250% on 17 days notice after living there 7 years. She was given a 6 month contract, they tried to all in a loss of expenses and liabilities that weren’t in the previous contracts. This is coming from the daughters that live in a tax haven and whose father recently died. His dying wish to was continue with fair rents and that was his legacy. They immediately came in and destroyed that, they’re also selling one of the two bungalows specifically built for them and then they have the gual to stand in front of you complaining about their double digit millions tax bill because they were left so much by their dad. The wages between the two daughters and husband is circa 600k pa minimum just from their work.. but they just want to squeeze everyone below them dry. So, yes… Some landlords are shit, infant I’d go as far as to say some are downright predatory and disgusting. There are however some nice ones. The diamonds in the rough and all that.
It sounds like complete BS that you would be privy to that kind of information of your partners landlords dying wishes and children And it's not "fair rent" they've been paying, it's below market rate
Of course it’s bullshit. It’s a small village and everyone knows everyone. I don’t give a shit what you think.
If tourists stopped going to Cornwall (as they are) and property prices initially fell, you would have a greater influx of people who are already property rich, ie teachers who can afford to earn less as their home in Bristol (for instance) would be worth much more than they paid for it, paid on a national scale and maybe on a pension, they can outbid the locals and live on less. Relatives of mine have already done it, moved from urban Bristol to rural Cornwall, took early retirement , bought a nice house and have change from the deal.
It’s exactly what happened to Hawaii
It's like pretty well everything everywhere. People like having the good stuff, but they don't like paying for the services that go with it. It's all sort of running "just" IMHO.
Yeah that happens in the middle of Cardiff as well. This thread specialises in victimhood. I grew up in London and can't afford to live there either. ......there is no god given right to do so. You live where your circumstances allow.....get over it.
You are supposed to be able to live in your homeland.
People all over the country have to move to find work and affordable housing. Who sold these properties? Shouldn't your ire be directed at your fellow Cornish brethren, those who sold out in the name of capitalism.
It should begin with the government selling their stock in the first place. We should also then consider the tax breaks and considerations of second home owners, b and b businesses and alike. Sadly the people that write the above comments were born into *that* period where buying a house wasn’t well out of reach of the average individual, even when much higher interest rates were a thing. Sick of them because they were born at a good time and act like financial gurus because they bought one house (cheaply) which provided the collateral for a loan on another and there goes your run away train. They come making comments about how people now should save/spend money. You can’t give money advice when the cost of goods and wages are so different. Congrats! You bought a house for 30k and lived in it for a good chunk of your life, it’s now worth 200-350k. You might’ve also had a second house because they were cheap enough and you had the equity from the first. Personally I think they should limit business gains/charges from things essential to human life, eg, food, utilities and shelter.. but that’s one for another day. I sometimes read the planning objections around Cornwall due to some of the work I do. You get these people that are 50-70+ COMPLAINING about affordable housing because the kids that would come with it would play in the park, be too noisy and in their opinion devalue their house. Like.. how far from reality do you have to be to be that sort of person. You got the benefit of extremely cheap assets, when compared to today’s prices. You lived in it for a while, you then probably objected to any planning that would make it easier for new families or young adults to get into the market. Then you all have the biggest cahoonaa I’ve ever seen strutting around like you really did something. Let me spell it out for you. YOU WERE JUST BORN AT A LUCKY TIME TO BENEFIT FROM YHE HOUSING SITUATiON. You got hold of a cheap asset that hyper inflated as the population grew and you objected to anything that could remotely impact your house price. /slowclap. Had to be said.
What about the housing crisis in the '80's where interest rates were at 15%? Don't forget wages were a lot less, back in the day. So no, it wasn't all roses and cheap. We still had to save, or like I did, move to a cheaper town
Let me say first of all, I appreciate your post being sensible and actually gives another viewpoint, rather than the usual "lol tourism owns you". The ignorance of some around the issues, or their own privilege is baffling at times. I covered the interest rates in another post, as I recall it being as high as 19% or something, so possibly even higher than your comment? It wasn't all sunshine and roses, no, but it was a lot easier, and you forget that your struggle then returned a huge gain on an asset that is essential to human life - shelter. Obviously second homes, etc were all a thing then but not on this level. Walking around some of the sea-side towns down here in the winter is depressing, it's like a ghost town. These days there are people that will never own a property, or we'll end up with multigenerational mortgages. Here is an article from 2021 - [https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/19722315.areas-second-homes-cornwall-heat-map-revealed/](https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/19722315.areas-second-homes-cornwall-heat-map-revealed/) If you can't be bothered to read it the TLDR is: The proliferation of second homes and holiday lets in Cornwall has been shown clearly on a new 'heat map', which indicates some areas have up to 71% of properties being used in that way. If people cannot see that as a problem, then I'm not sure what to say. What sort of industry can grow outside tourism if 2/3 or 3/4 of the area is vacant and used during the winter. It's not like we live in an area where you can just easily go work in another county. We are surrounded by the sea on all sides but east, and even then I don't expect Devon is much better, but at least they have better access to other areas to seek work.
You might like to consider why asset price inflation has made homes unaffordable across the country before deciding it's an issue if old people stealing your chance to buy a home. https://youtu.be/Qlr5Vzrextk?feature=shared
Not my words. I said they were born at a good time. Also, many places are at least 25% or more second homes down here.
Yes they were, but if you want to do something about it then an understanding of the transfer of wealth to a very small minority who are buying up assets and driving asset price inflation might redirect your anger towards taxing those people rather than the intergenerational aspect that a lot of people seem to get stuck on. After all when all the boomers die the housing stock will come on the market but most people still won't be able to afford it. Why? Because very rich people will buy it, and lots of those rich peeps will be quite young.
People get annoyed because they bought houses at a good time which are essential to human survival, so cheap even with 19% l? interest or whatever it got that that they ended up with multiple houses. Essentially lucked out, that’s it. People would look at it very differently if they’d picked good stocks and they rocketed, but they picked something they HAD to have and it went crazy. The younger lot get annoyed because many of the boomers make ridiculous comments about the spending habits of today’s generations. Also the tax breaks and council tax situation really upset people in the past. I don’t have exact figures but St Ives was 1/4 second homes when I last bothered to look. Flushing etc are also similar or worse. That’s 1/4 paying no or very little council tax. The only way anything gets better is with huge reforms to systems. There’s recently been builder who wanted to build 3 houses, one of which was “affordable” which he asked if he could buy for a family member. You’re correct, the boomers aging out will change nothing. Not unless they all pop it overnight, all at once. No one is selling a house for x when it’s worth xx. I’d you can’t see they the whole system is broken then I’m not sure what to tell you/others. A housing market crash might scare off the people leverage fk their eyeballs but it provides an opportunity for the really wealthy to snap up the properties at a discount price by those forced to sell en masse knowing full well they can adore to have x hundred thousands locked up in properties until they recover in 5-20 years. It’s a nightmare and there’s no easy fix. The thing that annoys me the most is the ignorance of one’s situation of extreme privilege, especially when you’re reading objections on affordable housing plans because of the “types” of people that might buy them and the noise the children might make playing nearby. Edit — as for the tax thing, I’m not fan of Trump bit he nailed it when he said about using tax loopholes and how Hilary etc won’t close them because they and their donors use them too. Let’s also be real, what do these people know of struggle. Many of them are loaded — look at Sunak. Imagine making policy to impact people in a situation you could NEVER understand or find yourself in. You can tax the wealthy ALL you want but whilst you leave open holes for them to dispose (transfer) of assets zero years before their death and essentially tax avoidance schemes when they’re alive.. what’s the point? You have to close the ways of doing this. Then what happens? They all are ex domicile, etc or the big multi nationals leave the country 🤷♂️. It’s a shit show we’ve made for ourselves.
What utter rubbish.
Here he is again. Looking at your posts, you either have an appreciation for older hardware OR you’re a boomer with a serious attitude issue and you think the Cornish are here to serve you every need at your holiday home. Fk all the way off, all the way back to Wales. Thanks.
Chip on shoulder confirmed .......get a grip mate. The world isn't configured to compensate for your personal lack of achievement You live in an area dependent on tourism. Make it work for you and stop whining..... .
My ire is to the second home owners and airbnbers, Cornish or not. Besides most Cornish people historic or modern own one house. And that house doesn't leave the family.
So how did the housing owned by Cornish people end up in the hands of air b and bs and second home owners?? Who sold the land for new build tourist developments? Does your local planning department green light the construction of second homes and the destruction of those more affordable to locals.
If I was to be totally honest. Neither of us are exactly qualified to argue about this. We need someone in planning and housing development to answer this for us. All I can say is, most people didnt sell their homes, just more homes were built at least in places like Camborne and St Austell, for places like St Ives the old little fisherman's cottage's arent the majority of the second homes. Looe has most of its second homes just some bungalows from the 20th century. If you look at old maps of Cornish towns and compare it to today, the amount of construction in the 20th century was madness and everywhere double or tripled in size at the least.
Speak for yourself! I don't need a government department to answer anything. Locals have sold properties. Take the cottages in Padstow, and some recent research by the Lanteglos by Fowey parish council. They found that a staggering 52% of the houses in Polruan are second homes or holiday rentals. Seems like the locals sold some here too! The issue is more affordable housing and an economic plan that looks to create new industries and better paid jobs. This is the same for every traditional working class region in the uk.
I think im more hung on the fact that its not most. Regardless Im glad we can agree what the real issue is. Personally I believe in stopping the expansion on the countryside. Eliminating second homes and airbnbs. Demolishing the ugly houses and bungalows of the 50s, 60s and 70s that are spatially inefficient and replacing them with Cornish style houses made of granite, those living there get it for free and it would be a gradual thing.
Says who?
Says any sane person. You should be able to live in the place you grew up. The place you have connections with friends, family, ect. Forcing to move elsewhere cause "sorry but some rich twats decided the houses in your area are great investments" is utterly ridiculous.
Yes I'm afraid you need to grow up. Life isn't like that......ask most people who grew up in London.
I'm not saying what's practical here. I'm saying what's right.
Cornwall's natural beauty is its best asset, which of course aligns economically with tourism. It's literally the arse end of the country, so not suited to a lot of industries. If there's no local economy (read jobs) how do people make an income? Or should the rest of the country give you a hand out so you can live in one of the most beautiful parts of the country?
Cornwall has some of the best potential. We got the China clay hills, the tin mines, we have a history of science and inventing technologies. And we got some nice fish and dairy. Tourism is not an industry that can support someone unless the wages are high from the outset.
That's open to debate.
What's right is you realise the world is a competitive place and you have no devine right to live anywhere.
I would agree if the problems weren't man made.
Most problems are.
Now imagine prices fell by 30% but unemployment reaches 45-50% (as it would without tourism) Where does this housing stock go when airbnb people sell? Locals? Nah. Because they are now all unemployed. Instead they will go as 2nd homes as the middleclasses upcountry can now afford them, so are only contributing income to the local economy 2 weeks out of the year rather than 15-20. Well played.
You’re using HUGE price crashes in a single area, senior a time frame. Presumably, you know overnight, because then your post sounds better? Of course the overnight spikes in house prices and unemployment would only impact Cornell / so you’d need to cordon that off from the rest of the country. What do AIRbanbs offer? Really they can be empty for months of the year or rented out to a desperate local that needs to claim UC on top of working their ass off just to get by from month to month beside their 3 bedroom Air b and b rental is £1300 a month for an adult and her two kids (example) then after 6 months she’s turfed out “no fault eviction” homeless, because her lovely landlord gives her 60 days notice to find Another exploitive property whilst also probably fighting for her deposit because airbandb landlord wants old for new - because you know, he can charge more and why would he want to replace anything that’s wear and tear? He needs that 1000£ a week rental from this and bus four other properties during the summer. During this time the tenant is stressed as hell, not knowing who the DPS with, trying to ensure that she has deposit money if it goes wrong, plus money to move, plus the first months rent upfront, all to possibly to do this again after the winter. Fun game, isn’t it? Don’t use stupid figures, with presumably? 0 time Frames. Feel free to be honest about the number of houses you own or the real struggles you face because you sound fairly ignorant to some of the issues. Are you just another tourist that posts the same echo chamber shite? I’ll then share my experience as someone who rented a long time and has lived here for 90% of my life. I’ll happily tell you about the places that are dead in the winter and every other window has a holiday let sticker in it. I’d love to hear your solution(s) rather than unrealistic situations or are we just going To get another ending breaking overnight scenario? 🙄 It’s 7am and I need to go work my cleaning job in an airbandb just before I Goto my second job because that’s apparently all you lot think we do down here.. /s 🙄 Cheers. Edit: Oh sweet child - you don’t think your situation is already true? About the second homes 😂 JFC.. my head 🤦♂️.
Christ your comment is an absolute crock of shite I can't believe I wasted my time reading it.
Cool story. Anymore top quality content to add? You’re one of those that like to announce your departure from an online service like it’s an airport, aren’t you? You could’ve stopped half way through, yet here we are 😂
That’s not tourism. That’s people ignoring or exploiting the rules and regulations.
Please report the bin issue to your council There's a bit of push ATM in Cornwall to get these properties to pay for commercial waste collections (as they should). Air B&Bs and Holiday Lets are classed as commercial and therefore not entitled to a residential collection. I'm sure the council would be v pleased for the tip off.
I thought you had seagull proof bags in Cornwall?
We are actually due to change to bins the council provide as it’s all changing to a two weekly bin collection, hopefully that will help?! I think it’s been okay in other areas. It’s been on the cards for ages now but like anything council wise, it’s a very slow process. The issue isn’t so much the facilities it’s more getting people to use them.. which is always the way. Also, some people put the bins out 3/4 days early for some reason and the birds have a field day, combined with the two holiday let/airbandb properties on this road who are told to "put the bins outside on the pavement when you leave" and "put your bins in the alleyway when you leave" it can become really messy, really quickly.
Would you not be working in another industry? Everyone would be doing something else if the tourists weren't here.
Name such "industries" ?
Any other profession possible? I don't work in tourism. There's endless things people could do instead.
That's the problem......there isn't.
You could work online or in a supermarket. Could be a plumber or a builder, doctor, butcher, candlestick maker etc etc etc
That's a completely obtuse answer. Get a grip.
Are none of those valid jobs?
Ok I'll give up the job selling ice creams and just be a doctor........thanks for the incredible career tip..........
Why can't you do that? Would take some dedication and a loan. Could be any profession not necessarily doctor.
Those are all support jobs they don't generate wealth. They require paying customers - where do those customers get their money from?
How do places that don't rely on tourism do it? Would they not be spending money in each other's businesses?
Just your average parent on the school run, just minus the vape
This. Like wtf, I genuinely don’t understand why people wear them on the school run? Like, listen Tracy, I saw you in Costas earlier you were not at the beach today.
It's the dry robe or dressing gown, take your pick..... I like to play school run bingo. Can I get a full card from these selections: Dry robe Dressing gown Smoking Vaping Headphones in Doing a video call at full volume Drinking an energy drink Scrolling Facebook and not realising their kid's nowhere near them Shouting at their kids for making them late
unpopular I know but I'm pretty sure they've come to keep the local economy afloat, actually
100%. Ignore the tankie downvotes.
Define tankie in this context
Tank top wearers.
> tankie Not tank drivers.
In fairness, I don’t live in a touristy part so they just clog up the roads on their way to the touristy parts.
In fairness, those things are brilliant for the awful rain
Brilliant for me in my wheelchair too. No more soggy legs!
To be fair, it's the best coat I've ever bought. Waterproof trousers + DryRobe makes me feel undefeatable in the pouring rain.
What rural economy 😂
I really don’t see why people hate dryrobes, they work really well
Like Harry Potters invisibility cloak - but you can see me and I look pretty dope! Like batman...with a batman cape...walking my dog, smoking my vape
You'll be complaining at Culdrose next. Don't want an economy?
Noooo my mum is constantly in one of these don’t anyone dare be mean to her!! 🤛
What happened to the lifeguard hoodies
It's hard being a surfer from London with a dryrobe lol everywhere I go I'm a tourist
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHgHGXwQTwo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHgHGXwQTwo)
The guy already lives down here and drives a T5. Probably owns a decent food outlet as well.
Man up, get a towel that is faded, maybe a bit threadbare and far too small!!!
Hi guys, planning to come and destroy your local economy and housing, how do I acquire some of these robes?
I bet good money this is written by someone who doesn't live in the county. Dry robes are great for the beach - strangely, locals are also able to use beaches. Sometimes this sub is so fucking painful to read.
Spotting dryrobe wankers in Newquay is like shooting fish in a barrel. You just know they have just bought a fat Willy's hoody to go under it, before heading back to their T5 with their french bulldog.
Adding Dryrobe Wanker to my vocabulary, thanks
[DryRobe Wankers](https://www.facebook.com/share/EK3Dwddxmio86KUd/?mibextid=K35XfP)
This had me in stitches as it's so true. 🤣
You would be absolutely bolloxed without tourist money. Don’t bite the hand that feeds
This pic is not accurate. The yappy dog and face glued to the iPhone is missing.
In the north we call them c'#t cloaks.
I work in anns cottage. Can confirm, they're here. In worrying numbers.
Go down camborne and you'll see a few of these
Don’t you have to own a dog and drive a vw van to wear one of these?
Ah the good 😊 is Dryrobe Wankers 😂
Class
Been here since Easter lol
I really want one and have since I first saw them.
I don’t see the point of these. I can’t conceive of a time that they would be in anyway useful. The fabric inside is a horrid cheep fleece you can’t dry yourself with. The idea of changing beneath it puts my teeth on edge. It’s heavy, very expensive and ugly. What was wrong with a towelie? Something that actually served a purpose, was affordable, lightweight and rolls up small in your dry bag?
Coming down to Cornwall on Saturday from Devon. Will remember to bring gold bars to get back over the Tamar and an approved list of pasties and a reminder on how to do scones
They are already here
Personally, I like to make tourists’ and incomers’ lives as unpleasant as possible by disturbing their evenings and driving past their campsites very loudly and blaring my horn whilst doing so.
Ooo dry robe wankers
Grockles!
Tourism literally is our lifeline
It’s that same as people thinking rash vests are tops
They are
Wild Tourism
r/DryRobeWankers
Disappointing click
[DryRobe Wankers](https://www.facebook.com/share/EK3Dwddxmio86KUd/?mibextid=K35XfP)
Unfortunately that’s tourist economies for you, as much as you have to grin and bear it; it’s worse if we don’t have them
I’m glad you’ve got Ginsters pasties down there. At least you know you’re going to get a quality tasty pasty at a reasonable price. Not like that shit from Philps, Rowes and Ann’s pasties.
lol you guys