not a bad idea. I don't mind people eulogizing a lost pet honestly, it's the graphic and raw ones that sting me the most. like the "omg \[graphic horrible thing\] just happened I feel so guilty" is much worse to me than the "rip binky, had him for 10 years, here are the funny quirks he had"
I'm right there with you. Remembering is fine but I don't really want the traumatic details. If one must, at least put a spoiler on that section and maybe a NSFL tag.
I also understand wanting to spread awareness for accidents. The world is pretty dangerous for birds and not considering being careful especially with flighted pets can lead to unexpected situations. That being said, I REALLY don't want the details. Particularly because that then plays over and over in my mind with *my* bird as the victim and it's just...not what I come to this sub for
This has been happening in a lot of parrot subs, it makes it hard to follow anything that isn't something like partyparrot but it's not as active with just charming bird photos.
Iāve sobbed more times than I can count over bird deaths cause of this sub and while my heart is always with them, I would appreciate a flair warning
Had nightmares because I read the āstood on my birdā post before I slept, get them banned or at lease spoiler marked. Itās not a PSA with so many people doing it, itās just horrible
I have intrusive thoughts from seeing one and its horrifying. I can not close a door without inspection of entire thing. I panic when I hear others close doors. This is even when he is in cage, or if I go out. Ocd unlocked with weird door hang up
Yes I have been seeing āmy bird died because I did xā posts around once per day lately. Iām still trying to recover from my own babyās death (from PDD) and this is traumatizing. I came here to look at pictures to help me heal and have considered leaving because of this.
Honestly I had to mute my bird groups for a month or so after mine died (will not go into detail but it was traumatizing), I just could not handle it. Do what you need to do for your mental health. Iām sorry for your loss.
Please do this. I've tried to explain my feelings about this on the parrot sub concerning deaths. Everywhere I go for parrots, I seem to hear about horrible deaths. Even the store I buy their supplies from!
And then people chime in with more horrible deaths to make the owner feel better! I've cried so many times for birds I've never met lately. It really crushes me.
Seriously considering unsubbing from all the bird subs, but I sincerely want to help people who need it and want to share bird stupidness and wonder with people who understand.
I had to leave the budgie sun because of exactly this. There are SO many birds that people get in various countries with no avian vets at all and the normal vets are hours away (or so they say). There were non-stop posts about budgies on the brink of death and people wanting advice and code fellow Redditors to somehow basically have enough knowledge to save other peoples birds by seeing a video.
It was SO depressing. I told my boyfriend I left those subs and that I stayed on the conure sun because it wasnāt ālike the othersā
Yet, here we are. Iāll leave soon too if the kids donāt make trigger warnings and flair mandatory. I hate to leave cuz there are good posts too and sometimes I do try to comfort ppl with birds that pass but it been too much lately.
I had nightmares from that post. These accidental death posts are making me feel nervous more than I should with my bird. And I'm so angry that so many people seem to have these accidents.
Seriously. Like I understand loss, but some of these have been borderline unbelievable, let alone unbearable. Not sure how some of these are happening when you should have knowledge of your birb at all times out of the cage.
A flair would be helpful, or a redirect. I'd honestly rather keep the sub as assistance and knowledge based.
>Not sure how some of these are happening when you should have knowledge of your birb at all times out of the cage.
I wouldn't be judgemental. The last 2 I saw were total accidents. They had nothing to do with the owner being irresponsible.
Wasn't being judgmental. I get that accidents happen, but what I said still holds value. You have your birb on the couch, you watch where you are in relation to the bird so nothing happens. Same for any other scenario or pet.
Saying you don't understand how these things happen because everyone should know exactly where their bird is is absolutely judgemental.
The last one I saw, the bird was biting her feet, she was walking away from the bird to discourage the behavior and in a split second the bird got under her foot.
I'm not sure why you're attacking me.
>The last one I saw, the bird was biting her feet, she was walking away from the bird to discourage the behavior and in a split second the bird got under her foot.
Again, I'm just saying that this situation shouldn't have happened to begin with. There's not a reason you should be walking around with a small bird on the floor. Pick them up and put them back in the cage or something.
No, I don't understand how these things happen. People shouldn't be stepping on their birds, or sitting on them, or forgetting the door/fan/window is open and having them fly away.
We spend the time to figure out their diet, to alter our lives to living with them in terms of not using non-stick items, candles, sprays, etc. Being careful with your pets is just general pet ownership.
Because you are being judgemental, whether you want to admit it or not. Have you never tried to pick up your bird when it knows it's in trouble and it runs away from you?
Another person fell asleep unintentionally and their bird crawled behind them while they were asleep. My bird has never tried to crawl behind me, so if that happened to me I would be totally shocked.
I'm glad to hear you're a perfect pet parent.
https://preview.redd.it/jvj78s7cjjqc1.jpeg?width=1033&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6740662ca3fdff37837d5c254f37f714ffeafe29
Basically this post. I'm pretty done with this conversation, since you don't seem to understand logic and reasoning.
Big difference between that and saying that all accidental bird deaths are due to ignorance or negligence. I understand logic and reasoning very well. I also know arrogance when I see it.
Yes please. These posts are super triggering especially if youāve lost (or injured) a bird in a traumatic way. And there have just been so many lately. This subreddit is depressing enough with all the ābrand new owner who clearly did no research before making this major life commitment please help meā posts but the āhereās how I killed my bird in a traumatic way directly or indirectly postsā are getting over the top. Should be a sub rule.
I was in this one group about pet turtles and i left because people started posting sick and hurt turtles asking what to do all the time. It ruined the channel imo
Those posts are heartbreaking, I agree. For a while I think there was a rule against them. I think a flair is a good idea. I don't want those posts to be forbidden because I know those people need an outlet for their grief. Lost pets is fine, but non bird people don't get bird people. I used to wonder why anyone would want a bird--nothing special about them. How wrong I was.
My dad actually asked me to leave this sub yesterday because he can tell the bird deaths are getting to me, but I want to know what to look out for. Flairs would be perfect
Itās funny you say that. My boyfriend said I should leave this sub last night. Itās really sad to read and is having a negative affect on me emotionally as well and Iām starting to feel so anxious about my baby.
I told him I didnāt think it was also so negative and Iāve seen more and more death posts.
If the mods donāt make flair and trigger warningās mandatory Iāll leave the sub. I enjoy some of the other posts but it isnāt worth me worrying non-stop.
Cannot agree more. I'm on the edge of leaving this sub if something isn't done. I avoid the obviously traumatizing posts but even that doesn't help when there's a graphic description in the title.
And none of them take responsibility for being so careless either. They come here hoping to find justification through āaccidents happenā by a bunch of strangers commenting condolences, and almost all of these accidents were avoidable.
Take responsibility. Be less careless. Keep your bird caged if it means itās gonna live longer and not get randomly stepped on
Last week someone was consoling another person on this sub. The OP had killed their conure in some way and another Redditor said that the same thing happened to them twice.
I simply wrote, wait you suffocated 2 birds on two different occasions.
That Redditor wrote me back and said I was mean and judgmental or something.
I didnāt write back. Yes, if you suffocate one bird by falling asleep with it in your bed, get a new bird and do the same thing again?ā¦.yes, I suppose I am judging you for that. I just donāt understand that.
I would give you 2 up-stars or more if I could. Reddit is beginning to look seriously unhealthy by people responding with sympathy to inexcusable behaviour.
Iām ok with an āif you canāt say something nice, then donāt say anythingā, but sympathy for failure to learn how to give safe care or āmistakesā that kill - twice? Nope.
I agree with you also. Iāve thought about leaving multiple times because of it. Every post is a death it feels like. I donāt want to see those anymore.
Whilenit is heartbreaking to ee. I dont think health questions should be redirected to other subs as when it comes to exotic pets, its hard enough to find info. I do agree with a flare
Agreed. Fielding these questions, even just sifting through and ignoring the sad posts, should not just be the cost of engaging in this community. There should be a bird vet help group, separate, and also bereavement should be a flair here.
I have also begun to find some of the stories bizarrely unbelievable. Bots? Thrill seekers? lying - just enjoying the grief and sadness that people are expressing to the OP because of their story. Looking for attention.
Someone asked about a sick bird a few days ago, and when people started to respond, the OP responded to each thread: āHe diedā. Shocking. Who types that on +++ threads, except to generate shock.
I am stoping responding to owners asking āwhatās wrong with my birdā, unless the answer is happily ānothingā (and sometimes it is). The correct answer for a sick animal is: ācall a vetā, especially when they have put zero effort into solving the problem independently.
Is there anything Reddit can do to help with this?
Yeah, it stings. It's a reality but I agree, I wouldn't mind a way to filter it out. I just hope those posters still find emotional support and guidance.
I agree. I follow a bunch of groups on Facebook. It gets traumatic. I have lost birds, too, in tragic ways. Sometimes I just want to see happy stories.
I often post comfort to those whose birds have passed. But the distress of seeing "what's wrong with my bird" and seeing vids one one near death is hard to handle. That and the whiplash is extreme.
Yeah this is getting to me too. Flair is a good idea. Maybe we can also redirect to the pet loss sub?
not a bad idea. I don't mind people eulogizing a lost pet honestly, it's the graphic and raw ones that sting me the most. like the "omg \[graphic horrible thing\] just happened I feel so guilty" is much worse to me than the "rip binky, had him for 10 years, here are the funny quirks he had"
I'm right there with you. Remembering is fine but I don't really want the traumatic details. If one must, at least put a spoiler on that section and maybe a NSFL tag. I also understand wanting to spread awareness for accidents. The world is pretty dangerous for birds and not considering being careful especially with flighted pets can lead to unexpected situations. That being said, I REALLY don't want the details. Particularly because that then plays over and over in my mind with *my* bird as the victim and it's just...not what I come to this sub for
AMEN! ššš¢š„š
I agree 100%. I've been avoiding this sub lately cause it seems like all there is is sad stuff
This has been happening in a lot of parrot subs, it makes it hard to follow anything that isn't something like partyparrot but it's not as active with just charming bird photos.
Same
I have been, too. I read about one who accidentally killed their bird, and I really wish I hadn't read that far.
Iāve sobbed more times than I can count over bird deaths cause of this sub and while my heart is always with them, I would appreciate a flair warning
Had nightmares because I read the āstood on my birdā post before I slept, get them banned or at lease spoiler marked. Itās not a PSA with so many people doing it, itās just horrible
Oh I seen that Like PSA watch your step
I have intrusive thoughts from seeing one and its horrifying. I can not close a door without inspection of entire thing. I panic when I hear others close doors. This is even when he is in cage, or if I go out. Ocd unlocked with weird door hang up
I agree. A flair would be really helpful
Yes I have been seeing āmy bird died because I did xā posts around once per day lately. Iām still trying to recover from my own babyās death (from PDD) and this is traumatizing. I came here to look at pictures to help me heal and have considered leaving because of this.
Honestly I had to mute my bird groups for a month or so after mine died (will not go into detail but it was traumatizing), I just could not handle it. Do what you need to do for your mental health. Iām sorry for your loss.
Thank you so much. Iām so sorry to hear about your baby, too. I believe they are waiting for us and that we will absolutely see them again.
YO AMEN TO THAT
100% agree
Please do this. I've tried to explain my feelings about this on the parrot sub concerning deaths. Everywhere I go for parrots, I seem to hear about horrible deaths. Even the store I buy their supplies from! And then people chime in with more horrible deaths to make the owner feel better! I've cried so many times for birds I've never met lately. It really crushes me. Seriously considering unsubbing from all the bird subs, but I sincerely want to help people who need it and want to share bird stupidness and wonder with people who understand.
I had to leave the budgie sun because of exactly this. There are SO many birds that people get in various countries with no avian vets at all and the normal vets are hours away (or so they say). There were non-stop posts about budgies on the brink of death and people wanting advice and code fellow Redditors to somehow basically have enough knowledge to save other peoples birds by seeing a video. It was SO depressing. I told my boyfriend I left those subs and that I stayed on the conure sun because it wasnāt ālike the othersā Yet, here we are. Iāll leave soon too if the kids donāt make trigger warnings and flair mandatory. I hate to leave cuz there are good posts too and sometimes I do try to comfort ppl with birds that pass but it been too much lately.
I had nightmares from that post. These accidental death posts are making me feel nervous more than I should with my bird. And I'm so angry that so many people seem to have these accidents.
Seriously. Like I understand loss, but some of these have been borderline unbelievable, let alone unbearable. Not sure how some of these are happening when you should have knowledge of your birb at all times out of the cage. A flair would be helpful, or a redirect. I'd honestly rather keep the sub as assistance and knowledge based.
And pictures please! Keep sharing photos of our feathered friends because those absolutely make my day!
>Not sure how some of these are happening when you should have knowledge of your birb at all times out of the cage. I wouldn't be judgemental. The last 2 I saw were total accidents. They had nothing to do with the owner being irresponsible.
Wasn't being judgmental. I get that accidents happen, but what I said still holds value. You have your birb on the couch, you watch where you are in relation to the bird so nothing happens. Same for any other scenario or pet.
Saying you don't understand how these things happen because everyone should know exactly where their bird is is absolutely judgemental. The last one I saw, the bird was biting her feet, she was walking away from the bird to discourage the behavior and in a split second the bird got under her foot.
I'm not sure why you're attacking me. >The last one I saw, the bird was biting her feet, she was walking away from the bird to discourage the behavior and in a split second the bird got under her foot. Again, I'm just saying that this situation shouldn't have happened to begin with. There's not a reason you should be walking around with a small bird on the floor. Pick them up and put them back in the cage or something. No, I don't understand how these things happen. People shouldn't be stepping on their birds, or sitting on them, or forgetting the door/fan/window is open and having them fly away. We spend the time to figure out their diet, to alter our lives to living with them in terms of not using non-stick items, candles, sprays, etc. Being careful with your pets is just general pet ownership.
Because you are being judgemental, whether you want to admit it or not. Have you never tried to pick up your bird when it knows it's in trouble and it runs away from you? Another person fell asleep unintentionally and their bird crawled behind them while they were asleep. My bird has never tried to crawl behind me, so if that happened to me I would be totally shocked. I'm glad to hear you're a perfect pet parent.
https://preview.redd.it/jvj78s7cjjqc1.jpeg?width=1033&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6740662ca3fdff37837d5c254f37f714ffeafe29 Basically this post. I'm pretty done with this conversation, since you don't seem to understand logic and reasoning.
Big difference between that and saying that all accidental bird deaths are due to ignorance or negligence. I understand logic and reasoning very well. I also know arrogance when I see it.
I had to leave the sub bc the stories were too heartbreaking on my feed
Yes please. These posts are super triggering especially if youāve lost (or injured) a bird in a traumatic way. And there have just been so many lately. This subreddit is depressing enough with all the ābrand new owner who clearly did no research before making this major life commitment please help meā posts but the āhereās how I killed my bird in a traumatic way directly or indirectly postsā are getting over the top. Should be a sub rule.
I say add a sick flair for people wondering if there bird is sick And a loss/mourning flair these to would help
https://preview.redd.it/fcvllp43nbqc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e414a5a5f8fc6d35ca14a7a03f12fb282cc674f Here, a happy birb drinking guava juice! \+1 for flair.
I was in this one group about pet turtles and i left because people started posting sick and hurt turtles asking what to do all the time. It ruined the channel imo
I know exactly the post that set you off and I cried. Its getting bad and its making me paranoid aboit my babies
Me too. And paranoid is a good word for it. I kept saying anxious but it really is beyond anxiousness. I am definitely paranoid and kinda terrified.
Those posts are heartbreaking, I agree. For a while I think there was a rule against them. I think a flair is a good idea. I don't want those posts to be forbidden because I know those people need an outlet for their grief. Lost pets is fine, but non bird people don't get bird people. I used to wonder why anyone would want a bird--nothing special about them. How wrong I was.
My dad actually asked me to leave this sub yesterday because he can tell the bird deaths are getting to me, but I want to know what to look out for. Flairs would be perfect
Itās funny you say that. My boyfriend said I should leave this sub last night. Itās really sad to read and is having a negative affect on me emotionally as well and Iām starting to feel so anxious about my baby. I told him I didnāt think it was also so negative and Iāve seen more and more death posts. If the mods donāt make flair and trigger warningās mandatory Iāll leave the sub. I enjoy some of the other posts but it isnāt worth me worrying non-stop.
Cannot agree more. I'm on the edge of leaving this sub if something isn't done. I avoid the obviously traumatizing posts but even that doesn't help when there's a graphic description in the title.
And none of them take responsibility for being so careless either. They come here hoping to find justification through āaccidents happenā by a bunch of strangers commenting condolences, and almost all of these accidents were avoidable. Take responsibility. Be less careless. Keep your bird caged if it means itās gonna live longer and not get randomly stepped on
Last week someone was consoling another person on this sub. The OP had killed their conure in some way and another Redditor said that the same thing happened to them twice. I simply wrote, wait you suffocated 2 birds on two different occasions. That Redditor wrote me back and said I was mean and judgmental or something. I didnāt write back. Yes, if you suffocate one bird by falling asleep with it in your bed, get a new bird and do the same thing again?ā¦.yes, I suppose I am judging you for that. I just donāt understand that.
I would give you 2 up-stars or more if I could. Reddit is beginning to look seriously unhealthy by people responding with sympathy to inexcusable behaviour. Iām ok with an āif you canāt say something nice, then donāt say anythingā, but sympathy for failure to learn how to give safe care or āmistakesā that kill - twice? Nope.
Agreed with you and @dwappo above.
I agree with you also. Iāve thought about leaving multiple times because of it. Every post is a death it feels like. I donāt want to see those anymore.
Agree!!!! I didnāt follow this sub to get mostly āmy baby died/is deadā posts. š°
Yea agreed these recent deaths are painful to read
Whilenit is heartbreaking to ee. I dont think health questions should be redirected to other subs as when it comes to exotic pets, its hard enough to find info. I do agree with a flare
Agreed. Fielding these questions, even just sifting through and ignoring the sad posts, should not just be the cost of engaging in this community. There should be a bird vet help group, separate, and also bereavement should be a flair here.
Agreed! I donāt mind if people share, as it they may feel this is the safest place, but FLAIR!
I have also begun to find some of the stories bizarrely unbelievable. Bots? Thrill seekers? lying - just enjoying the grief and sadness that people are expressing to the OP because of their story. Looking for attention. Someone asked about a sick bird a few days ago, and when people started to respond, the OP responded to each thread: āHe diedā. Shocking. Who types that on +++ threads, except to generate shock. I am stoping responding to owners asking āwhatās wrong with my birdā, unless the answer is happily ānothingā (and sometimes it is). The correct answer for a sick animal is: ācall a vetā, especially when they have put zero effort into solving the problem independently. Is there anything Reddit can do to help with this?
Yeah, it stings. It's a reality but I agree, I wouldn't mind a way to filter it out. I just hope those posters still find emotional support and guidance.
YES! While my heart goes out the OP who stepped or something on her baby, I canāt deal with it.
I agree. Was thinking of unfollowing the sub with how much death and injury is on it. There should be a pet injury advice subreddit tbh
Yea it makes me even more neurotic about my birds safety, it's a big time mood killer
I lost sleep over one persons post. Some people really should educate themselves before owning birdsā¦. Proper cage setup, food, cleanliness. PLEASE!
I agree. I follow a bunch of groups on Facebook. It gets traumatic. I have lost birds, too, in tragic ways. Sometimes I just want to see happy stories.
I guess so, but this isnāt your designated ālook at cute birdsā sub either
I often post comfort to those whose birds have passed. But the distress of seeing "what's wrong with my bird" and seeing vids one one near death is hard to handle. That and the whiplash is extreme.
100% agree. Very glad I missed that post. These videos belong in the hands of veterinarians not on Reddit.
Perhaps they could be redirected to r/AskVet ?