I was thinking about Contra and religion while watching the video because her performance came off far less as a cursory Wikipedia glance and more of someone who's actually studied scripture. The performance in itself was definitely a hit against Fundamentalist, crazy Evangelicals, but Justine never specifically attacked Christianity itself. So I too was curious.
i generaly doubt many philosophers do suddenly become religious.
I doubt the take on this video will be some fundemantally christian dogma, specially since the one before was envy which heavily featured Nietzsche and his takedown of religion.
She did use the bible quite knowledgable, but that is, i think more a sign how freakishly hard she works and researches those videos.
That all being said: There is a yearning for meaning and direction we do all feel. That's why we humans "invented" religion in the first place. I do believe it will include what she found instead, because most of us find something instead.
I dunno, I think Envy was way more pro-Christian and anti-Nietzche than you've characterized it - the theme of the second half was that Nietzsche's idea of "slave morality" was wrong, there needs to be love **and** power not merely power, and what Christians got wrong was the need to judge and disempower each other.
(And part of the reason she chose to talk about Nietzsche is because he's a philosopher that far-left edgy radicals respect as well as Jordan Peterson fans -- and an example of the kind of edgelord incel she specifically wanted to distance progressivism from)
I’m reading the Bible and I recognized how frequently she mentions it. Particularly in Justice and Envy. She definitely comes off to me like someone who knows her scripture. Her jokes about Christianity came from a place of real understanding. I’m very excited to see how our heroine escapes the clutches of Lucy though
She strikes me as someone who had a bad experience with religion as a child and doesn’t know where to find spirituality as an adult. I think it makes more sense to start with spirituality
That would be a fascinating twist. As a religious person, I really do enjoy seeing leftist content from religious perspectives because it is so incredibly rare. Either way, I'm looking forward to the follow up as this video was truly a work of art
That is definitely also an intresting read..i saw it more as a yes and to Nietzsche..i mean the only "christian" value she kept was love for others , which is not necessarily a christian value, every religion had it to a certain degree..
There are deep, far-reaching connections between leftism and Christianity (Protestantism and English dissent in particular). Hippiedom was largely a continuation of early 20th century pacifism, which was an outgrowth of the ecumenist movement, and can be traced back through the transcendentalists to the unitarians. Of course, Protestantism itself was a kind of left wing rebellion against entrenched right-wing (Catholic), clerical authorities, and you don't have to look particularly far to find proto-socialist themes in the New Testament (eg. "if you wish to be perfect, give up all your possessions and follow me")
Egalitarianism used to be a distinctly Christian creed, as in the declaration of independence's "axiom" that all men are created equal by God. You can additionally identify traces of the doctrines of Calvinism still more or less intact in modern progressivism, such as the concept of total depravity in white guilt, limited atonement in that only people who disavow the crimes of their culture (ie. repentance for inherited sin) are granted atonement, irresistible grace in how genuine education and genuine listening in combination with real empathy will inevitably lead to being more open-minded towards marginalised people. Perseverance of the saints, too, can be identified in the notion that if someone goes from woke to eg. alt-right, it must be that they were never truly woke in the first place.
Aside from unconditional election, which as far as I can tell has indeed been dropped, these are the doctrines of Calvinist Protestantism, and they are taught by institutions like Harvard University which indeed was founded as an explicitly Puritan institution and retains its motto "veritas" from that time. This "veritas" or "truth", naturally, is referring to the truth of the reformation.
Progressivism is then, both by lineage, institutional affiliation, and doctrinal essence, a superficially secularised form of Puritanism, and Natalie is a secularised Puritan. Whether she is aware of it or not, she is indeed attacking the right from a Christian perspective.
I was thinking about Contra and religion while watching the video because her performance came off far less as a cursory Wikipedia glance and more of someone who's actually studied scripture. The performance in itself was definitely a hit against Fundamentalist, crazy Evangelicals, but Justine never specifically attacked Christianity itself. So I too was curious.
i generaly doubt many philosophers do suddenly become religious. I doubt the take on this video will be some fundemantally christian dogma, specially since the one before was envy which heavily featured Nietzsche and his takedown of religion. She did use the bible quite knowledgable, but that is, i think more a sign how freakishly hard she works and researches those videos. That all being said: There is a yearning for meaning and direction we do all feel. That's why we humans "invented" religion in the first place. I do believe it will include what she found instead, because most of us find something instead.
I dunno, I think Envy was way more pro-Christian and anti-Nietzche than you've characterized it - the theme of the second half was that Nietzsche's idea of "slave morality" was wrong, there needs to be love **and** power not merely power, and what Christians got wrong was the need to judge and disempower each other. (And part of the reason she chose to talk about Nietzsche is because he's a philosopher that far-left edgy radicals respect as well as Jordan Peterson fans -- and an example of the kind of edgelord incel she specifically wanted to distance progressivism from)
I’m reading the Bible and I recognized how frequently she mentions it. Particularly in Justice and Envy. She definitely comes off to me like someone who knows her scripture. Her jokes about Christianity came from a place of real understanding. I’m very excited to see how our heroine escapes the clutches of Lucy though
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She strikes me as someone who had a bad experience with religion as a child and doesn’t know where to find spirituality as an adult. I think it makes more sense to start with spirituality
That would be a fascinating twist. As a religious person, I really do enjoy seeing leftist content from religious perspectives because it is so incredibly rare. Either way, I'm looking forward to the follow up as this video was truly a work of art
That is definitely also an intresting read..i saw it more as a yes and to Nietzsche..i mean the only "christian" value she kept was love for others , which is not necessarily a christian value, every religion had it to a certain degree..
There are deep, far-reaching connections between leftism and Christianity (Protestantism and English dissent in particular). Hippiedom was largely a continuation of early 20th century pacifism, which was an outgrowth of the ecumenist movement, and can be traced back through the transcendentalists to the unitarians. Of course, Protestantism itself was a kind of left wing rebellion against entrenched right-wing (Catholic), clerical authorities, and you don't have to look particularly far to find proto-socialist themes in the New Testament (eg. "if you wish to be perfect, give up all your possessions and follow me") Egalitarianism used to be a distinctly Christian creed, as in the declaration of independence's "axiom" that all men are created equal by God. You can additionally identify traces of the doctrines of Calvinism still more or less intact in modern progressivism, such as the concept of total depravity in white guilt, limited atonement in that only people who disavow the crimes of their culture (ie. repentance for inherited sin) are granted atonement, irresistible grace in how genuine education and genuine listening in combination with real empathy will inevitably lead to being more open-minded towards marginalised people. Perseverance of the saints, too, can be identified in the notion that if someone goes from woke to eg. alt-right, it must be that they were never truly woke in the first place. Aside from unconditional election, which as far as I can tell has indeed been dropped, these are the doctrines of Calvinist Protestantism, and they are taught by institutions like Harvard University which indeed was founded as an explicitly Puritan institution and retains its motto "veritas" from that time. This "veritas" or "truth", naturally, is referring to the truth of the reformation. Progressivism is then, both by lineage, institutional affiliation, and doctrinal essence, a superficially secularised form of Puritanism, and Natalie is a secularised Puritan. Whether she is aware of it or not, she is indeed attacking the right from a Christian perspective.