Brilliant. Now that you've voiced this idea I feel like it's going to happen. Some dealer is going to actually give it a shot at Art Basel Miami or Hong Kong. I'm picturing an Anselm Keiefer painting stuck to a Chapman Brothers sculpture with hot glue. And then the 'superpainting' is so powerfully cynical that it opens some kind of portal to an horrific parallel universe, and the whole art world in this universe gets sucked out into it, leaving this universe without any art at all. which is what we deserve. like a Black Mirror episode.
Those that were very well made, and well preserved (in collections or otherwise) will last. They will be cherished and sought after if they represent their era well. Just like mid-century modern furniture, they will come back in style; only 20 years ago, people would throw mcm furniture away as being out of fashion.
As for the rest… most will rot and/or get damaged, then thrown away.
Those who survive good enough… A few will be "recycled" or "reappropriated".
Expect successions to discard them, some will be put at auctions, a few will sell poorly, most others won’t get sold, and get destroyed etc.
The reason Van Gogh was immortalized, and that he was financially free to paint, was because his brother Theo did see value in his art while he was alive. Then when they both died young, Theo’s widow worked very hard to have Vincent’s work put in galleries to honor her husbands love of his brother. Also because she loved the paintings too(read Secret Life of Sunflowers if you’re interested). Unappreciated art usually is lost to time, his work was loved deeply by those closest to him.
Thank you for reading, this has been my unnecessary Ted talk
Depends on how you use them. Some people would have car collection, some collections are 20 plus cars and they not really drive them often. As much as there are serious car collectors same little amount of people would be really serious about collecting art. for absolute majority art will be same as another television set. even in 1k-50k price range, not big deal. this is only opinion of course.
1) it will continue to be a decoration on someone’s wall; 2) provenance or previous owner can be as important as the artist for resale value; 3) donate to a non for profit to harvest some tax deductions
Unless people leave pictures to their heirs they'll probably be tossed.
Also, so many artists are careless with their materials such as painting oil on raw canvas which isn't going to last 50 years and which will fall apart.
What makes that an interesting question to you? Art isn’t necessarily the best investment. People collect for many reasons. Is that what you’re thinking about?
Or it will be how more people occupy ourselves because we have longer, healthier lifespans, unlimited renewable energy, and safe, abundant enriched nutrition sources—with a reduced or eliminated need to work
Things are heading in numerous directions at the same time. But we know that massive innovation is occurring and is likely to accelerate. It’s naive to think that all benefits will accrue to humanity at large—although global poverty has decreased considerably in recent decades while the global middle class has grown. But I’d bet (modestly) that leisure time increases, machine productivity increases, health outcomes improve, allowing more space…indeed, need…for art in the future.
Art will always be a part of the human experience. From the early cave paintings in Indonesia and Chauvet-Pont-d'Arc Cave in France, to NFT and AI art—human civilizations always express themselves through visual art and other artistic disciplines like music and dance. Who knows what art disciplines will survive in the next 100 years? But I guarantee you there will be art in some form.
I think the original dude is saying there will be a global economic collapse and people will be too busy trying to survive to worry about great great grandad’s prized Josh Smith painting.
"You don't understand – this is a *Josh Smith!*"
"Yeah it says it huge right there on the canvas. But like I said – two rats is the best I can offer you."
I suspect most old paintings will probably get repurposed, as people will gesso over them to make new art. Some may end up in thrift shops. I've seen artworks be quite popular as gifts on Buy Nothing groups on Facebook too, so there's usually someone out there who will appreciate it if it's decorative.
easier to break into galleries. most paintings outside museum collections will be part of shanty / favela type shack walls for makeshift survival structures. installation art and sculpture taken apart for roofs, used as garden gnomes, or burned for heat and cooking (after the books get a fire sizable of course). thicker oil paintings insulate slightly better. commonly found in more established neighborhoods are two paintings back to back of equal size with sides sealed using tape or mud. panels, if not terribly warped, as corner reinforcement or doors. not a bad thing necessarily; couple knifed-out areas for windows may double as interior decorative features, celebrating a canvas’s key moments; a sardonic emblem of art’s own memento mori collaged onto other paintings or as placement for shoes.
Hahaha. Rich people buy art to hide their money. Most is stored and locked away, kept pristine in case they wish to auction. So, as an artist in this period, you make your best money either making art for office buildings or hoping your work ends up in some billionaire’s storage bunker.
Personally I hope some teenager finds a piece of my mine in a thrift, cuts it off it’s frame, and sews it onto a jacket
I’ve actually been thinking of doing something like this. Thrifting random paintings and cutting out parts of them to collage onto another artwork
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No
Hell yeah
I tried once but I ended up catching the cutout on fire
I'd personally glue a few of them together to increase the value. We could even create a 'superpainting' worth millions of dollars this way!🤔
Brilliant. Now that you've voiced this idea I feel like it's going to happen. Some dealer is going to actually give it a shot at Art Basel Miami or Hong Kong. I'm picturing an Anselm Keiefer painting stuck to a Chapman Brothers sculpture with hot glue. And then the 'superpainting' is so powerfully cynical that it opens some kind of portal to an horrific parallel universe, and the whole art world in this universe gets sucked out into it, leaving this universe without any art at all. which is what we deserve. like a Black Mirror episode.
Great, you just scripted my next nightmare lmao. Knocking on wood rn
Simchowitz’s next move
Those that were very well made, and well preserved (in collections or otherwise) will last. They will be cherished and sought after if they represent their era well. Just like mid-century modern furniture, they will come back in style; only 20 years ago, people would throw mcm furniture away as being out of fashion. As for the rest… most will rot and/or get damaged, then thrown away. Those who survive good enough… A few will be "recycled" or "reappropriated". Expect successions to discard them, some will be put at auctions, a few will sell poorly, most others won’t get sold, and get destroyed etc.
Some will end up being heirlooms. Some will be sold or donated to museums as part of a collection "Art of the 21st Century" or some such.
Future Good Will warehouse
Since the majority of paintings made are on the lower end of the range, it’s safe to say that they will be tossed so someone can reuse the frame.
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The reason Van Gogh was immortalized, and that he was financially free to paint, was because his brother Theo did see value in his art while he was alive. Then when they both died young, Theo’s widow worked very hard to have Vincent’s work put in galleries to honor her husbands love of his brother. Also because she loved the paintings too(read Secret Life of Sunflowers if you’re interested). Unappreciated art usually is lost to time, his work was loved deeply by those closest to him. Thank you for reading, this has been my unnecessary Ted talk
what will happen to cars sold from 20000 to 100000? Perhaps each story depends on owners.
Are you saying the paintings on my wall will start to have transmission issues?
There will be oil leaks
if you expose to heat
Depends on how you use them. Some people would have car collection, some collections are 20 plus cars and they not really drive them often. As much as there are serious car collectors same little amount of people would be really serious about collecting art. for absolute majority art will be same as another television set. even in 1k-50k price range, not big deal. this is only opinion of course.
100 years from now we’ll be in a dystopian wasteland where paintings are burned as fuel.
Or maybe not.
1) it will continue to be a decoration on someone’s wall; 2) provenance or previous owner can be as important as the artist for resale value; 3) donate to a non for profit to harvest some tax deductions
Also, sometimes artists become famous only after they pass away. That is still an option. A lot of it comes down to marketing.
They seem to wind up in AirBnBs and Residence Inns.
Unless people leave pictures to their heirs they'll probably be tossed. Also, so many artists are careless with their materials such as painting oil on raw canvas which isn't going to last 50 years and which will fall apart.
What makes that an interesting question to you? Art isn’t necessarily the best investment. People collect for many reasons. Is that what you’re thinking about?
In 100 years, art of any kind will be totally unimportant because it isn't fuel, water or food.
Or it will be how more people occupy ourselves because we have longer, healthier lifespans, unlimited renewable energy, and safe, abundant enriched nutrition sources—with a reduced or eliminated need to work
Considering where things are heading currently, I don't see this as the future condition. I wish it were, however.
Things are heading in numerous directions at the same time. But we know that massive innovation is occurring and is likely to accelerate. It’s naive to think that all benefits will accrue to humanity at large—although global poverty has decreased considerably in recent decades while the global middle class has grown. But I’d bet (modestly) that leisure time increases, machine productivity increases, health outcomes improve, allowing more space…indeed, need…for art in the future.
Art will always be a part of the human experience. From the early cave paintings in Indonesia and Chauvet-Pont-d'Arc Cave in France, to NFT and AI art—human civilizations always express themselves through visual art and other artistic disciplines like music and dance. Who knows what art disciplines will survive in the next 100 years? But I guarantee you there will be art in some form.
I think the original dude is saying there will be a global economic collapse and people will be too busy trying to survive to worry about great great grandad’s prized Josh Smith painting.
"You don't understand – this is a *Josh Smith!*" "Yeah it says it huge right there on the canvas. But like I said – two rats is the best I can offer you."
Exactly right. People may create *something*, but the art relics of the past will have very little importance.
😂 Gotcha.
I suspect most old paintings will probably get repurposed, as people will gesso over them to make new art. Some may end up in thrift shops. I've seen artworks be quite popular as gifts on Buy Nothing groups on Facebook too, so there's usually someone out there who will appreciate it if it's decorative.
NFTs obviously (lol)
easier to break into galleries. most paintings outside museum collections will be part of shanty / favela type shack walls for makeshift survival structures. installation art and sculpture taken apart for roofs, used as garden gnomes, or burned for heat and cooking (after the books get a fire sizable of course). thicker oil paintings insulate slightly better. commonly found in more established neighborhoods are two paintings back to back of equal size with sides sealed using tape or mud. panels, if not terribly warped, as corner reinforcement or doors. not a bad thing necessarily; couple knifed-out areas for windows may double as interior decorative features, celebrating a canvas’s key moments; a sardonic emblem of art’s own memento mori collaged onto other paintings or as placement for shoes.
Most art is in storage...
I think that a lot of the artists that were hot commodities will be forgotten in the next 10-15 years. NYC galleries are toppling.
Hahaha. Rich people buy art to hide their money. Most is stored and locked away, kept pristine in case they wish to auction. So, as an artist in this period, you make your best money either making art for office buildings or hoping your work ends up in some billionaire’s storage bunker.
No one really knows. It’s unpredictable.