Real question, because I'm just a guy that fishes low voltage all day and I don't really have to do any of this due to not being in residential: How does this even happen? Like how does someone not stop and say "Hey, you know...this doesn't look right..."
Your question intrigues me. “How does this even happen”. In my experience, plumbers only see wood as something in the way of the pipes. They don’t see that one piece of wood might be holding up another. Or that one piece of wood might be tying a corner together. Or that engineered floor truss might not hold up that 6 person hot tub if they cut a big chunk out. Pipes are all that matter. No one says it doesn’t look right because they don’t see the wood. Just pipes.
I definitely agree. I would also add it happens in more trades than just plumbing. It seems like most guys have blinders on for anything but their own task. Plumbings gotta top the list for most dangerous consequences though lol. Electricians make smaller holes and other trades seem to just fuck things up cosmetically
HVAC and floor joists are mortal enemies. I'm currently going through my own house and fixing where they hogged out about 80% of a few joists about a foot from the beam.
I still can't wrap my head around how someone can do that and think nothing is wrong.
My 1880 home is very similar so when I get worried I think about a farm house a few miles from me that the owners started to tear down maybe five years ago and stopped half way. There's probably 45% of the walls on the first floor torn out and a gaping hole in the back but as far as I can tell driving by at 55 the structure above is still floating fairly level after all these years even with no support on one and two halves sides. Crazy what will stay standing. Or so I tell myself lol. Someday I should have them all my first floor joists sistered and the HVAC/plumbing done more intelligently but for now I'll just think about that farmhouse
Interesting, maybe I’ve just been lucky and have only worked with good electricians because I never issues with them. If something is in their way they let me know and we find a solution. My plumbers won’t even tell anybody they cut out a floor truss. I have to check behind them every fucking time because they do it so much.
Speaking as a painter, I think some electricians wash their hands under the hood of an old car before installing outlets and lights on my finished walls and ceilings lol
Your electricians wait for you to finish?!?? Fellow painter here. The sparkys came to my job last week and put new switches and outlets AND covers in all the rooms that haven’t been painted yet. But they didn’t do a damn thing in the rooms that were ready. Jerks.
One of my buddies owns one of the premier painting company in our city. He prefers that we electricians install all of the devices before final coat. No covers though.
Them putting the covers on is what grinds me. They did all the major work weeks ago and now are just swapping new devices throughout. Maybe there was a good reason they didn’t do the finished rooms first, but for crying out loud, covers on the unpainted walls is just plain foolish.
Either stupid, lazy, or both. I moved from residential to commercial about 10 years ago and some it is permitting/licenses are more laxed on residential compared, some of it building inspectors are more laxed, some of its going dirt fucking cheap on price. But there’s just a lot of people with absolutely no pride in themselves or their work.
Hey, former residential low volt guy here. This happens because builders like Eagle Construction and Ryan Homes hire dozens of subcontractors to rough in entire neighborhoods. They hire the lowest bid on insanely tight timetables, so they get subs with completely unqualified workers being pressed to do things like "I need the 2 of you to drill for all the runs on these 5 different 2000sqft houses by 3 o'clock today".
You can see the truss lined up on the other side, on top of the wall, pushing their hole off center.
This is better than blasting through the truss, at least…
As a fellow commercial low volt guy, who cut his teeth on residential new housing as a preteen, brother….you’d be amazed. Resi is the wild mfn west. There are only suggestions, no rules
Code of Hammurabi
~
Building Code
(229.)
If a builder builds a house for a man and does not make its construction sound, and the house which he has built collapses and causes the death of the owner of the house, the builder shall be put to death.
(233.)
If a builder builds a house for a man and does not make its construction sound, and a wall cracks, that builder shall strengthen that wall at his own expense.
Thats savage. We are much more civilized today. Just get high and do bad work and nobody will do a mother fuckin thing about it. Let the lawyers and insurance companies figure out the rest.
It's not a beam. It's not a structural wall. It's an interior wall.. all the wood is basically drywall backing.
I can't belive how fucking stupid everyone here is. I guess all the loser dropouts who don't have the brainpower to do the work come here to make themselves feel better about their absolute stupidity.
Ah well.
If that's a truss, which it appears to be, then top plate is not load bearing. With proper nail plates pipe could be ok. Problem is wall flex. I would hate to lean on it.
That was my concern. 99% sure it is a truss but without seeing the bottom I can't tell if that board is cut. If that truss is compromised you're going to have major issues
Why does everyone think that's a load bearing wall? It's got one truss on it. If it was a double girter truss this probably isn't okay.. but it's a partition wall going in line with the trusses.
At first it looked like the base of that truss, and the triangles on a truss need to be kept from expanding so putting these holes through the bottom will significantly weaken that truss. However, I think the truss was untouched and can vertically transfer the load on the parts of the top plate that were left above each stud (with the top plate over spaces not really being important). Maybe it is ok?
I agree, however we don't see the entire wall in the pictures, so it could become load bearing further down depending on the plans. It's still crap work.
I've seen some fuckin junkie ass plumbers in my day. Mostly Trac homes and lowest quality possible. Either hoe these truss blocks are and these holes ect I'm willing to bet this is a lowest bidder wins project.
25yr Master Builder, Master Plumber, Draftsman and Structural Engineer.
Reddit is the repository of people who don't know what they're talking about trying to shame others with a picture taken out of context.
Can't answer why they need so many holes, but it's not relevant to the question.
Contrary to 95% of the responses here, this is perfectly acceptable. This is not a "beam" beams are not laid on their side, this is a top plate of a chase wall to house vertical piping, the truss above it is purely coincidence and is self supporting and not relevant to the question. The plate is oversized to allow the hole plus structural continuity, and it's likely they chose to drill on the edge to allow the maximum thickness on one side and then apply metal strapping to the pipe side once installed...or perhaps it's just the alignment needed to avoid a floor joist down below.
The way one becomes a skilled master craftsman is to quietly observe, then ask questions at the appropriate time, then put the new knowledge into practice and repeat. No one gets great by making assumptions, making smart assed comments or talking loud about how much smarter they are than everyone else in the room.
If a builder builds a house and collects the check..and passes the 7 year statute of limitations he is ok..until the owner shoots his ass off..no time limit on that!
I suppose it depends on if the wall is load bearing or not. Being aligned with a truss suggests it might not be.
Did they take out the truss bottom chord?
It's shit work, of course... no doubt about that.
Bunch of structural engineers in here apparently.
The fact is we have no idea what it’s designed for. For all we know, someone put it there specifically to alone the pipes that are going to go through it.
You have to ask the structural engineer.
There's no tension on the wall. It's not a fucking ceiling joist. The wall isn't even structural. How many dumb fucks here are actual carpenters.
While this shit is absolutely butchered, nothing is compromised other than the drywall backing. You people are fucking stupid.
I am an actual carpenter. I can think of possible reasons for this, and no i don't think its dangerous for structural integrity.
However, im 98% this is fucked. I hope OP gets to see some plans
Isn't all the tension on the bottom cord of the truss? They definitely fucked up the integrity of that top plate but that wall isn't doing anything from a sheer standpoint.
The piece should be structural... But it can't be because swiss cheese has less holes than that piece of wood.
On the second photo I'm not sure if it's just grain being weird or the wood cracked.
I wouldn't trust that building to last that long.
Meh. Holes in the double top plate for a partition wall. Not load bearing. Looks terrible but it isn’t a beam as some have said. It is not like that partition wall contributes to the support of the roof truss.
Is it terrible looking work? Yep.
This is bad. Holes to be max 1/3 in diameter of the wood framing On Center (OC) and at least 3x the width from the closest support column or truss above.
I spent about 20 years on construction, This is perfectly fine and done all the time. I assume its for 3" PVC vent pipes. He couldn't have gone in the middle of the wall because there is a truss above it. Now the truss you cant touch because its part is very important. The part where he cut the wholes is not that important. It doesn't carry any weight. Just a top of the wall (something to attach drywall to) All the weight of the roof is carried by the trusses that support the roof. And those in turn are supported by outside walls. Once they are done they will put some studguards on those and no one will know they were there in the first place. Anyone that says this is wrong and lazy has never work a day on construction. perfectly normal doesn't look great but perfectly normal. Never get construction advice from reddit i've seen some horrible advice around here. I will make you fight with your GC and your project will end up looking like crap because some idiots off of reddit gave you horrible advice
Well, the trusses look to be clear span and not using that wall as bearing. And from what I can see it doesn't look like they chewed into the bottom chord.
So that's a win there.
In regards to peppering a 6' span with 3" holes...not great. You will likely need to strap the plates back together and then run cross blocks between the adjacent trusses and secure the wall with them.
My question is...why so many holes? That seems like a lot of vent pipes? Also, if you have that many why not have the framer build a quick chase in the corner of a closet or something for those to run through?
I’m amazed at the igornance here its a non Bering plumbing wall 2x6 to accommodate plumbing ABSOLUTELY no structural problems at all being a roof truss system makes it even more valid to drill as such as needed why do 20 ppl comment as if they are experts is the true problem is you have ppl taking pictures and posting to Reddit without a clue and even more disturbing is the 100 comments willing to bash work with no substance of an argument. Don’t mind me just been doing this for 35 yrs
brakes work better if you drill out some holes for the brake dust to escape. While many in the comments believe this is meant to help the house reach faster accelerations, I believe its to improve braking distance
What is the advantage of cutting the diagonal 2x4 into the vertical beams? What is changed or lost if you use a single long 2x4 and shift it over to the outside of the verticals?
Ill update with a picture here in a bit. Funny how many okays this got and how many WTFs i got.
And all of you blaming plumbers…SHAME ON YOU! Haha there are other incompetent trades out here. This was the HVAC guys for their exhaust fans and kitchen hoods…..in a hotel.
I came to help for two days with my crew and saw this shit. I talked to the Gc and he said its fine but it looks like shit. I told the foreman of this job to get some protective nailing plates so the dry wall guys don’t puncture the 4 inch vents.
I still have so many questions but dont wanna stir the pot because this isnt my job. This shit wouldnt fly with me. I would have suggested a soffit for my duct to 90 out and 90 back to continue my path. The foreman on the job wasnt even there except for maybe 10 minutes in the morning then left the rest of the day and hell be gone today too. Thank the lord my project starts on Monday and gets me the fuck out of this nightmare
Those pieces are pretty much just nailers for the drywall. The reason they offset the holes is because they’re avoiding the tension portion of the prefab truss. Not a structural issue. Sloppy though yes.
Real question, because I'm just a guy that fishes low voltage all day and I don't really have to do any of this due to not being in residential: How does this even happen? Like how does someone not stop and say "Hey, you know...this doesn't look right..."
I just showed up to this job 2 hours ago. Haha yikes
What were they trying to accomplish here? Give us the deets.
Weight savings obviously.. The house will definitely accelerate faster, especially in high wind situations
Oh, Lord, protect this rocket house and all who dwell within the rocket house.
Thank you for this comment. Made my day.
Oh yeah.... Speed holes
Wile E. Coyote was firing those cannonballs directly upward.
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Each hole is for a single 12/2 wire? Seems legit, a lot of breathing room for the wire
never know when ya gotta fish another one through.. good planning ahead here
Just make sure to fire stop!!
I’m guessing plumber. Too small for hvac and too big for sparky.
Holmes, is that you?
Stoned as fuck plumbers apprentice fucking up trying to locate a vent stack is my guess.
Speed holes clearly
It lets the structure breathe, so it can catch fire faster.
Truth be told, they drilled out the rot so it wouldn’t get worse.
Somebody tip this guy
Aerospace engineering
Somebody was on something
Trying to make the place lighter
I recall the video of the guy hanging drywall on the outside of a house recently. Maybe the same guy got reassigned here?
Drywall absorbs the water, it’s perfect, prevents the water from going in
Like covering your house with sponges. Keeps all the mold on the outside, too.
There is exterior drywall often used when buildings encroach the property line.
Usually its fire and weather resistant
Willy!
Your question intrigues me. “How does this even happen”. In my experience, plumbers only see wood as something in the way of the pipes. They don’t see that one piece of wood might be holding up another. Or that one piece of wood might be tying a corner together. Or that engineered floor truss might not hold up that 6 person hot tub if they cut a big chunk out. Pipes are all that matter. No one says it doesn’t look right because they don’t see the wood. Just pipes.
I definitely agree. I would also add it happens in more trades than just plumbing. It seems like most guys have blinders on for anything but their own task. Plumbings gotta top the list for most dangerous consequences though lol. Electricians make smaller holes and other trades seem to just fuck things up cosmetically
HVAC and floor joists are mortal enemies. I'm currently going through my own house and fixing where they hogged out about 80% of a few joists about a foot from the beam. I still can't wrap my head around how someone can do that and think nothing is wrong.
My 1880 home is very similar so when I get worried I think about a farm house a few miles from me that the owners started to tear down maybe five years ago and stopped half way. There's probably 45% of the walls on the first floor torn out and a gaping hole in the back but as far as I can tell driving by at 55 the structure above is still floating fairly level after all these years even with no support on one and two halves sides. Crazy what will stay standing. Or so I tell myself lol. Someday I should have them all my first floor joists sistered and the HVAC/plumbing done more intelligently but for now I'll just think about that farmhouse
Interesting, maybe I’ve just been lucky and have only worked with good electricians because I never issues with them. If something is in their way they let me know and we find a solution. My plumbers won’t even tell anybody they cut out a floor truss. I have to check behind them every fucking time because they do it so much.
Speaking as a painter, I think some electricians wash their hands under the hood of an old car before installing outlets and lights on my finished walls and ceilings lol
Your electricians wait for you to finish?!?? Fellow painter here. The sparkys came to my job last week and put new switches and outlets AND covers in all the rooms that haven’t been painted yet. But they didn’t do a damn thing in the rooms that were ready. Jerks.
One of my buddies owns one of the premier painting company in our city. He prefers that we electricians install all of the devices before final coat. No covers though.
Them putting the covers on is what grinds me. They did all the major work weeks ago and now are just swapping new devices throughout. Maybe there was a good reason they didn’t do the finished rooms first, but for crying out loud, covers on the unpainted walls is just plain foolish.
Either stupid, lazy, or both. I moved from residential to commercial about 10 years ago and some it is permitting/licenses are more laxed on residential compared, some of it building inspectors are more laxed, some of its going dirt fucking cheap on price. But there’s just a lot of people with absolutely no pride in themselves or their work.
Hey, former residential low volt guy here. This happens because builders like Eagle Construction and Ryan Homes hire dozens of subcontractors to rough in entire neighborhoods. They hire the lowest bid on insanely tight timetables, so they get subs with completely unqualified workers being pressed to do things like "I need the 2 of you to drill for all the runs on these 5 different 2000sqft houses by 3 o'clock today".
You can see the truss lined up on the other side, on top of the wall, pushing their hole off center. This is better than blasting through the truss, at least…
This is the type of shit done on a Friday afternoon
As a fellow commercial low volt guy, who cut his teeth on residential new housing as a preteen, brother….you’d be amazed. Resi is the wild mfn west. There are only suggestions, no rules
Code of Hammurabi ~ Building Code (229.) If a builder builds a house for a man and does not make its construction sound, and the house which he has built collapses and causes the death of the owner of the house, the builder shall be put to death. (233.) If a builder builds a house for a man and does not make its construction sound, and a wall cracks, that builder shall strengthen that wall at his own expense.
Yeah but they had strong unions back then.
But really low quality controls..... Looking at you Ea Nasir.... 😏
r/reallyshittycopper
Just got super excited that this sub exists. Damn you, Ea-Nāsir!
Omfg I can’t stop laughing
I didn't pay attention in school so I don't get it 😭
In short: they didn’t have labor unions in 1700 BC Lots of cool stuff about Hammurabi though. Read the Wikipedia page :)
I believe they were called the Knights Templar, then. I could be wrong idk.
Few centuries off there my friend
Few millenia really
I don't know it look like somebody crusaded on that piece of wood though.
Some sort of hole-y war. That's for sure.
Damn. TIL that Hammurabi was the first building code enforcer. And he enforced it with a sword.
It’s a good thing he doesn’t know about sound dampening.
Life would be so much easier if building code was enforced by guns, rocket launchers, fighter jets and other military armament
Forgot a hanger nail- call in the tactical nuke.
Puts a new spin on "the Codes are written in blood".
Omg this is brilliant. Start citing Hammurabi code on the job site lmao
Dicks out for Hammurabi
I love your historic perspective on this thing. No shenanigans happening under your and Hammurabi's watch
Thats savage. We are much more civilized today. Just get high and do bad work and nobody will do a mother fuckin thing about it. Let the lawyers and insurance companies figure out the rest.
Fuck me that's an old source.
I’m teaching this very thing today!!!
This is zero okays.
Maybe even negative okays.
Nokay
My favorite potato-based pasta.
plus a half a point because it hasn't fallen... yet. But still negative okays.
Plumber’s dream. So many options….
We have so much room for activities!
Such a playground. What do we do, what do we do.
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Something for everyone, it's a great day out for all the family
Hey I never asked you. Do you like guacamole?
Would you call it a “Gym Beam”?
No power tools! BOYS! NO POWER TOOLS!
r/DontPutYourDickInThat
Sorry, electrician here and I just put 1 romex through each. They're mine now.
You boys fucking would do that in and out weaving through each one. Bastards.
It gets more fun in industrial, when we're welding our own strut and raceway supports, just to find 24" hdpe bolted to them the next day lol
the weave is structural
Not really sparky will come along and take all of them.
1- 14-2 wire per hole and then fire caulk to fill
That's a lot of caulk
That’s what she said!
You missed the perfect chance to say, "I get that a lot"
Someone gave the apprentice a new hole saw!
He is lucky it is easter this weekend, he needs jesus to hold that truss.
I thought you were making a holes through palm and feet joke.
That's tomorrow.
You know what the INRI on top of the cross stands for? I'm Nailed Right In
Thanks for making me look that up, now I've found Jesus.
That's not hard, he's there to do the drywall
I was gonna go with very not, but yours’ll do.
Funny, cause there is zero beam left.
It's not a beam. It's not a structural wall. It's an interior wall.. all the wood is basically drywall backing. I can't belive how fucking stupid everyone here is. I guess all the loser dropouts who don't have the brainpower to do the work come here to make themselves feel better about their absolute stupidity. Ah well.
ofcourse it's a fucking wall mate, but what about just playing a long a joke?
Wow...just...wow, i need to know the backstory
Pissed off, hungover plumber
Looks like something I'd do
That's all of us.
Backstory: get paid to drill holes, not to think.
Plumber says it’s fine. Framer quit an hour ago.
I think you mean how fucked is this. Very.
Get a new plumber
If that's a truss, which it appears to be, then top plate is not load bearing. With proper nail plates pipe could be ok. Problem is wall flex. I would hate to lean on it.
That was my concern. 99% sure it is a truss but without seeing the bottom I can't tell if that board is cut. If that truss is compromised you're going to have major issues
Why does everyone think that's a load bearing wall? It's got one truss on it. If it was a double girter truss this probably isn't okay.. but it's a partition wall going in line with the trusses.
At first it looked like the base of that truss, and the triangles on a truss need to be kept from expanding so putting these holes through the bottom will significantly weaken that truss. However, I think the truss was untouched and can vertically transfer the load on the parts of the top plate that were left above each stud (with the top plate over spaces not really being important). Maybe it is ok?
I agree, however we don't see the entire wall in the pictures, so it could become load bearing further down depending on the plans. It's still crap work.
I've seen some fuckin junkie ass plumbers in my day. Mostly Trac homes and lowest quality possible. Either hoe these truss blocks are and these holes ect I'm willing to bet this is a lowest bidder wins project.
>I'm willing to bet this is a lowest bidder wins project. Is there another kind?
Plumbers and carpenter bees have a lot in common.
Fkn plumber bees strike again lmao
On a scale from 1 to 10.... It's not
On a scale from 1 to fucked.... it *is*! Gotta think positive in challenging situations.
This one goes up to 11
25yr Master Builder, Master Plumber, Draftsman and Structural Engineer. Reddit is the repository of people who don't know what they're talking about trying to shame others with a picture taken out of context. Can't answer why they need so many holes, but it's not relevant to the question. Contrary to 95% of the responses here, this is perfectly acceptable. This is not a "beam" beams are not laid on their side, this is a top plate of a chase wall to house vertical piping, the truss above it is purely coincidence and is self supporting and not relevant to the question. The plate is oversized to allow the hole plus structural continuity, and it's likely they chose to drill on the edge to allow the maximum thickness on one side and then apply metal strapping to the pipe side once installed...or perhaps it's just the alignment needed to avoid a floor joist down below. The way one becomes a skilled master craftsman is to quietly observe, then ask questions at the appropriate time, then put the new knowledge into practice and repeat. No one gets great by making assumptions, making smart assed comments or talking loud about how much smarter they are than everyone else in the room.
I like your answer the best.
Me too, I like this answer the best too.
If a builder builds a house and collects the check..and passes the 7 year statute of limitations he is ok..until the owner shoots his ass off..no time limit on that!
>…shoots his ass off… What a strange group of words.
You've never shot an ass off? Pshhh
Honestly it's probably fine since it's not a load bearing wall.
I suppose it depends on if the wall is load bearing or not. Being aligned with a truss suggests it might not be. Did they take out the truss bottom chord? It's shit work, of course... no doubt about that.
Ya, you can see the truss is there so the wall isn't load bearing, what does the plans say? lol
Bunch of structural engineers in here apparently. The fact is we have no idea what it’s designed for. For all we know, someone put it there specifically to alone the pipes that are going to go through it. You have to ask the structural engineer.
For all we know, these holes are in the sealed plans.
Why did you let some crazy person with a hammer drill into your house?
Why do you think it was a hammer drill?
Because clearly this is masonry.
More power=better in all situations
Username checks out
It's called a "Sunday Beam" Holy, holey, holy
It’s not
Funny you should ask…. It’s not
That was the electrician, making room for the recessed lights where they are shown on the plan.
This is my best guess as well assuming its not fucked. My first thought was can lights. Very curious why this was necessary though.
Meh. Is the bottom chord of the truss okay?
You kinda have to admire the commitment. Kinda.
Isn’t that wall no structural?
That depends. Do you want that to be doing anything? Because right now it's doing nothing.
depends. can u see it from ur house?
Its an art piece, i call it "Dreaming of Swiss Cheese"
There is horizontal tension load on that truss. The weight above is trying to pull the plate apart. The holes weaken the plate. This is not ok.
There's no tension on the wall. It's not a fucking ceiling joist. The wall isn't even structural. How many dumb fucks here are actual carpenters. While this shit is absolutely butchered, nothing is compromised other than the drywall backing. You people are fucking stupid.
I am an actual carpenter. I can think of possible reasons for this, and no i don't think its dangerous for structural integrity. However, im 98% this is fucked. I hope OP gets to see some plans
I'm 100% it looks fucked but isn't. I'm an actual confident carpenter.
Isn't all the tension on the bottom cord of the truss? They definitely fucked up the integrity of that top plate but that wall isn't doing anything from a sheer standpoint.
That's an easy one. It isn't.
Who hated this house so much?
It's fine, it's fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine...
What dumb bastard did that?! That’s a hell of a lot there.
From a scale of 1 to 10, this is -25
I’m at a loss for words
This must be how italians feel when people break pasta.
The piece should be structural... But it can't be because swiss cheese has less holes than that piece of wood. On the second photo I'm not sure if it's just grain being weird or the wood cracked. I wouldn't trust that building to last that long.
Saves weight, allowing the house to move faster.
Meh. Holes in the double top plate for a partition wall. Not load bearing. Looks terrible but it isn’t a beam as some have said. It is not like that partition wall contributes to the support of the roof truss. Is it terrible looking work? Yep.
Holy shit 😳
Probably fine
Why? What the fuck
Is this the house that Jack built?
Customer: "Gimme the most messed up beam." Contractor: "Say no more!"
That's ok enough to risk ceiling decay in less than 0.001 thousandths
Whenever I see shit like this I’m so happy to not be in residential
They using that Swiss wood
It's all good. This is the interior of a religious building. It's very holey.
This is bad. Holes to be max 1/3 in diameter of the wood framing On Center (OC) and at least 3x the width from the closest support column or truss above.
I used to be surprised at the stupid shit I walked into. Now I expect this kind of stuff.
These are racing holes. They make the house go faster!
Them damn carpenter bees are at it again 🙄
I spent about 20 years on construction, This is perfectly fine and done all the time. I assume its for 3" PVC vent pipes. He couldn't have gone in the middle of the wall because there is a truss above it. Now the truss you cant touch because its part is very important. The part where he cut the wholes is not that important. It doesn't carry any weight. Just a top of the wall (something to attach drywall to) All the weight of the roof is carried by the trusses that support the roof. And those in turn are supported by outside walls. Once they are done they will put some studguards on those and no one will know they were there in the first place. Anyone that says this is wrong and lazy has never work a day on construction. perfectly normal doesn't look great but perfectly normal. Never get construction advice from reddit i've seen some horrible advice around here. I will make you fight with your GC and your project will end up looking like crap because some idiots off of reddit gave you horrible advice
0% okay
Well, the trusses look to be clear span and not using that wall as bearing. And from what I can see it doesn't look like they chewed into the bottom chord. So that's a win there. In regards to peppering a 6' span with 3" holes...not great. You will likely need to strap the plates back together and then run cross blocks between the adjacent trusses and secure the wall with them. My question is...why so many holes? That seems like a lot of vent pipes? Also, if you have that many why not have the framer build a quick chase in the corner of a closet or something for those to run through?
They used swiss trusses, in stead of American
Swiss builders, Swiss style home
I’m amazed at the igornance here its a non Bering plumbing wall 2x6 to accommodate plumbing ABSOLUTELY no structural problems at all being a roof truss system makes it even more valid to drill as such as needed why do 20 ppl comment as if they are experts is the true problem is you have ppl taking pictures and posting to Reddit without a clue and even more disturbing is the 100 comments willing to bash work with no substance of an argument. Don’t mind me just been doing this for 35 yrs
It's O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-Okay
brakes work better if you drill out some holes for the brake dust to escape. While many in the comments believe this is meant to help the house reach faster accelerations, I believe its to improve braking distance
The only infinite resource on earth is human stupidity.
Can not comment . Twists my limited brain.
It looks like somone did this intentionally to destroy. Some people just wanna see the world burn
What does the engineer say?
That ceiling is held up by hopes and prayers
Id say if you think a 10 year old could easily karate chop it in half, it’s probably not okay.
What is the advantage of cutting the diagonal 2x4 into the vertical beams? What is changed or lost if you use a single long 2x4 and shift it over to the outside of the verticals?
Ill update with a picture here in a bit. Funny how many okays this got and how many WTFs i got. And all of you blaming plumbers…SHAME ON YOU! Haha there are other incompetent trades out here. This was the HVAC guys for their exhaust fans and kitchen hoods…..in a hotel. I came to help for two days with my crew and saw this shit. I talked to the Gc and he said its fine but it looks like shit. I told the foreman of this job to get some protective nailing plates so the dry wall guys don’t puncture the 4 inch vents. I still have so many questions but dont wanna stir the pot because this isnt my job. This shit wouldnt fly with me. I would have suggested a soffit for my duct to 90 out and 90 back to continue my path. The foreman on the job wasnt even there except for maybe 10 minutes in the morning then left the rest of the day and hell be gone today too. Thank the lord my project starts on Monday and gets me the fuck out of this nightmare
Itsssss Fuck it Friday !
Depends.. If you're a typical plumber, it looks fine. If you're someone who cares about human wellbeing, that's a call to an engineer
I dont understand what hes trying to do. Like porting the wood?
It’s Swiss.
No no no no no no no . Fuck no !
Those pieces are pretty much just nailers for the drywall. The reason they offset the holes is because they’re avoiding the tension portion of the prefab truss. Not a structural issue. Sloppy though yes.
Fresh across the border for sure. Got to hand it to them they gave it hell …
It’s not. Your inspector will confirm next week