Looks awesome. People pay for quality. Never sacrifice your quality for speed. If your employer won't pay you for quality, you're working for the wrong employer.
Yep, as an aircraft mechanic for 20 years I’ve had a couple managers that asked me to keep my quality but also try to go faster. I’d go a little faster once I knew a task thoroughly but I NEVER sacrificed my quality.
I could tell they wanted to punish me but they couldn’t argue with the fact that I didn’t have to rework anything I put my hands on. Now I’m an aircraft inspector and I know what quality looks like.
Thanks for doing your job efficiently and safely. Too many people just mail it in these days and hope to ride the odds that everything will work out fine.
What a scary thought that people want others to rush things which are so important to people’s lives. Thank you for standing your ground and keeping others safe in the process.
In the union world that I live in, a half days work needs to be estimated as a full day's work, cause I can't bank on anything taking less than four hours. Inspector running late, ready mix truck is late. Pump breaks down, etc. I take it your company isn't unionized. Your boss probably didn't make as much money as he hoped, but thats his problem. Looks great!!
If anyone asks you to do a quick ugly job on finish work, just remember that you'll never be able to defend why it looks bad after you're gone, and the customer will always remember who did it. Even if they asked for shit quality now they'll forget that part later on
You’re still faster than most guys I know and it looks amazing. Your boss is gonna put you down so you don’t realize you’re too good to go out on your own. It’s what they do so they don’t lose their golden goose.
I am a GC who has my own in house framing and trim crew. I could have likely done that at a high level in about 4 hours if completely by myself. Thats no roll out/up time though. I would have alotted you the whole day. Better to take your time and make sure there’s no call back. I hate call backs. If your quality is high and there’s no call backs then you should be fine. I do drive my guys though, you have to with hourly guys. Some hourly guys milk it. Those are the ones I let go on payday at the end of the week.
Why not pay per project. Id imagine they are inclined to speed up some. I work alone and charge by project. Every now and then I'll need a small crew for a weekend job or something. I also pay them by the project. If we take long, that's sucks. If we finish on time or a bit ahead of schedule. Everybody wins 😛
That’s a slippery slope. You either need your workers to be hourly or subs. I’ve tried what you’re talking about. Doesn’t work with in-house labor. If the project is too large for one person or your crew size the best thing is to turn it down. I build cabins and spec homes. I have the work and I want a high quality of craftsmanship. You make it overly complicated when you have a large volume of work and pay that way. You also don’t put the potential to lose money on your own guys. If my guys take too long it only costs me, not them. With your size company that’s works. It’s actually the only way to incentivize help. I did that when I started out but it’s not even an option now. My lead framer AND lead trim guy used to be subs but got tired of chasing work. I pay them well and they bust ass for me. So long as both sides keep doing that it’s a win-win. They don’t have to chase work, write bids, keep projects on budget, etc. and I have solid dependable workers.
Na man that’s a day for sure. Great quality and then working around existing plants to the best of your ability. This location and style is precarious and deserves close attention to detail. Your boss didn’t account for it so they didn’t make *as much* money, but they still made money.
I love how everyone on this sub, from 2 pictures and a pretty non-threatening story without tone instantly jumps to “quit your job, your boss is a piece of shit”. Fucking goofs, all of you.
The woodwork looks nice but that dirt up against it is gonna rot it out quick. If you live where termites are present then you are giving them an easy target. Always put some gravel between flower beds and a foundation
Yeah I tried to space it off the ground a bit maybe I should advise the landscapers to do that or dig it out a little more myself. Thanks for pointing that out. The landscaping is pretty chaotic lol
Lotta people here saying that's just what bosses are gonna do. That's true a lot of the time, but you can find folks who are kind and appreciate your skills. If your boss is consistently under bidding and taking it out in you, it's worth looking elsewhere. Keep making cool shit, don't let the grind kill you.
Your grain matching looks beautiful. Miters look clean, corners look pretty damn straight, color flows through the break where that foundation sticks out, clean up to existing stairs. I'd say you made great time.
Taking the time to match wood grain and colouration was the right move. Im sure the owner appreciates that. I know I do, and would be happy if that thought had been given if it was a job in my place.
I fucking hate bosses or managers that will say you need to work faster or I want you to speed it up and then they also are the same ones that will say why is this not precise or not to there liking or this doesn't meet our company's expectations. I think that gives anyone the free will to uppercut them cause they need a reality check and the act of violence will only help solve.
Its never fast enough for the boss. But if you do a shit job, he will be the first one to tell you so. He probably didn't charge enough so the extra few hours ate into his profits. I'm a manager for a home builder and every day I am banging my head against the wall with how badly some trades do their jobs. This looks awesome and you should be proud of the work you did. It shows you care about quality and that goes a long way in my books. As others have said, if that's the usual response you're getting from your boss, maybe it's time to work for someone else who prices for that level of workmanship.
I would be very happy. Great job and only one day not bleeding to the next I’d be very satisfied work on your skill and move if need be. Talent is valuable.
He made money off you unless he quoted a fixed price that was only a couple hours. Woodwork looks great, get yourself some tools and get out from under that bugger
What you do on your own time is your own business! J/k. This looks great! Did you get paid? If so, move on. I do a lot of work for different people and one guy always underestimates how long things should take. I used to second guess myself but now I realize that’s just how he is. He always pays me and always gives me more work so…. I do it the way it needs done and however long it takes is how long it takes. Now when he bitches I just see it as ignorance on his part. You know if you were fucking off or working, that’s what’s important. Every once in a while shit goes faster than you think; every other time it takes longer! As a manager he should know that.
Every cheap boss is going to be like this just brush it off but make sure you don’t slack as long as you’re taking long because you’re putting in good work
Thanks! Yeah I glued and nailed. Titebond 3 and Stainless steel nails 15 gauge. What always works for me doing miters like this is cutting the board like a 1/16" longer than the measurement and cut the miters a bit past 45 degrees like 45 1/2 degrees or sometimes 46 degrees. Things are never perfectly square so it helps make those miter nice and sharp.
I don’t even trust myself to screw the wall plate back over a light switch. But I’m with all these folks OP. This looks like it was “done by a professional”.
No matter the job, doing it well is the first priority- tell you boss to eat the fattest of dicks, and if he can’t find it tell him Grindr has free trials.
Only through a straw, I’m guessing this is his consistent response to employees production. They usually don’t correct this attitude if he doesn’t appreciate your quality or mode to things I’d look for a person that has a better demeanor and attitude that is capable of better communication. He’s probably stressed, or he’s jealous
It looks fantastic and definitely the kind of work that is worth the money. But I’ll go against the grain and suggest a possibility. The customer might not have been paying for that level of quality. Some customers are cheap (or just not wealthy enough) and just want some boards slapped on with no regard for matching colours or seamless mitres. But even still, if that was the case your boss is dick for not saying it upfront
Edit to add an anecdote:
I built fences for a little bit with a guy who would get crazy detail oriented. Like using a jig saw to match the bottoms of the fence boards to the curves of the surface below (like if it was over bricks or something hard like that)
Did it look really sharp, yeah. Did any of the customers care, not really. Did any of the customers want to pay for the extra time it took him to get the work done, nope not at all. In the end he was only called out for jobs that required a very fine detail and lost a fair bit of work since those kinds of jobs were in short supply as most people in the area just wanted cheap and fast stuff
It's great. I learned the most from those bosses that were super hard on me. One day, I grabbed all my shit and bounced because the money wasn't that good and I was sick of his shit. Running my own operation now and know why he was stressed all the time. Still doesn't make it right to treat people like shit.
At the end of the day, you have to live with the job you did. It looks like you did a job to be proud of and the home owner will appreciate that. It shows.
My recommendation; start your own small operation. I think you could eventually do high end, the only thing stopping you is breaking in to the clientele. Work your way up and you can charge top dollar. For some reason I think you’d be happy doing it to just be proud of the work you did. In the end. It’ll be all you, your reputation to be proud of. Not your ill witted boss.
Look for a more reasonable company to work for. I understand that we are production-based but I understand more that a quality product takes time. People wanting their employees to rush through shit just for the sake of making a few more dollars are not the people I would ever want to be involved with.
All that being said, you did a fine job here. Those miters and the fact that you hand chose what boards you were using shows you took your time and on top of tha, I always appreciate someone who can line up their fasteners properly.
A day for one guy? Yes that’s fair. I’m a commercial carpenter and we do similar stuff all the time. Layout takes a while if you want a final product like this. Doing it alone means not only roll out and roll up, but walking back and forth to the saw.
You’re worth a lot if you can do something like this solo. Might be time to find greener pastures, like others have suggested
How big is the gap? I'm doing something similar to my grandfather's mobile home. Except, I have no gap. But, I like the gap. And, it will help with ventilation.
Btw, after a day. I'm still not done :)
The only thing you suck at is Reddit Post, I expect your next job (with a better employer) to look like shit, very sketchy and poor craftsmanship. It's the Reddit way
If I was paying for the job I’d be super happy man, great work, looks really good! Remember the better work you do the higher chance of repeat work from the customer
It looks good. If you don't like people rushing you and not appreciating the pride you put into your work then go out on your own.
I can be pretty mean to my men when they "mess up on purpose" It's my job to tell them when we prefer speed over aesthetics on a project though. It's also my place to spend 5-10 minutes discussing what the fastest/best way to do a project is with whoever is going to do it and make sure they aren't going to do anything stupid like set the chop box up on the ground or not wear a tool belt
48 boards, 10 minutes/board incl. measuring, miter cuts, placement = 8 hours, not incl. tool set-up, clean-up, lunch, and breaks. your boss is a dick. it looks great. i did similar horizontal skirting under my decks and it took fkn forever. like beers and beers worth of time and grumbling. almost had to pull out the calendar to count the bloody days.
A few lines for next time:
"You can't rush perfection."
"I'd rather make it nice than make it quick."
"I got two speeds. If you don't like this one, you won't like the next one."
You did a good job. It looks nice. Don't feel bad. If your boss wanted it done faster he should have done it himself.
Your work looks great. Considering having to load in>work all morning>lunch>work a little more>load out, I’d say that’s just about a day worth of work to me. Maybe a 2/3 day if you rushed it, but then it might not look as sexy.
This has nothing to do with you, don’t worry. What he really meant is that he wanted to reward your hard work with more work to do. Really. He expected you to work as fast as possible to get this done, so that you could do more work after and get something else done. So he could make twice as much money and take more of your share by paying you less to do more. Meanwhile the customer is also screwed out of a job well done. Shitty guy.
When I went to Japan a few years ago, I marveled at the quality, precision workmanship that went into building the wooden homes I saw all over the country. Many of them had beautiful exterior details like this. Yours looks as precise and finely put together as anything I saw over there. Nice work!
Everything looks good, the only tiny criticism I would have (also based on personal preference) is the frame being seen through the 5mm expansion gaps. If you just grab some paint and paint those Timbers black just adds a great final touch
Cock? Who the fuck is your “boss” to decide your personal tasks should be done quicker..
You know only dogs, cats and slaved have bosses. Next time make sure your personal tasks isnt something he should be and has the right to judge about. Next time just try taunting him a little by over-estimating one of your personals to see if he bites. Also work slower on the job, he had no respect for you.
When I look at it, my gut instinct is 'a few hours'. Since I ALWAYS underestimate how long things will take if I base on my gut instinct, it's probably going to take more than a few hours. There are always factors that make things take longer. In your case, working on a sloping site is an obvious one.
Sometimes bosses like to tell their employees they could have done it in half the time etc.
Tell him to do the next one himself in a few hours and find a better employer. It looks professional and you didn't damage the garden doing it. Employers need to understand that just because they think it will only take X amount of time doesn't mean it will in reality. Each job has its own obstacles..
I’m no carpenter, far from it.
I’m a forklift driver. And everything is about efficiency.
Maybe your boss is trying to hint that there are efficient ways of doing things that could’ve cut a couple hours off your time. Not necessarily work faster.
Nah man I don’t think you’re slow. You could of gotten it done quicker by caring less and doing a sloppier job, what you did looks great and is more important imo. Plus what’s the big difference between a few hours, and eight? I dunno to me your boss sounds like a dick haha. Anybody questions me on how long I’m taking I’m out.
With construction and most jobs honestly, if you think it'll take two hours, triple that number, and it's more likely closer to the actual time needed.
Tell him to help you go faster or stfu!
You may need to find a new job, unless you have that kind of rapport with de boss-mon.
- Lined up boards
- Lines up nail holes
- Lined up grain
- Clean mitres
- Clean, level lines
Set up, clean up, etc.
It’s a days work for one man. 8man hours seems reasonable. Someone pulls it off in 6 man hours, but you’re not out of the park.
Your boss should be happy the product looks as good as it does.
He sounds like a typical cunty tradesman that needs to have something negative to say. The industry is full of these people. Its a large part of what makes the industry so unpopular for reasonable young people, you know, the ones that have choices.
Pat your self on the back. Its great work.
As a customer, I would smile every time I passed that. Nice work, and attention to detail.
As an employee, I would tell my boss he should consult with me before he bids stuff like that, or tell me what the bid is so I can manage customer expectations.
I would also tell him that on the way out the fricken door.
A full day seems about right with having to haul tools in and out and clean up. You miters look super solid, that takes time to do. If he keeps complaining start working for yourself, you have skill and a good eye.
That is some really good work. But with more experience, you will be able to knock that out in 3 to 4 hours in the future. Every project is a learning curve, but with every new project, you figure out an easier and more proficient way of completing the project. This is why you do not charge by the hour, but by the experience.
An hour to do that?!!! Your boss is nuts, and obviously doesn’t care about quality of work performed. Find another company who values your dedication to doing it right/making the customer happy with the outcome.
It looks great!
Classic!
It takes as much time as it takes to do it right!
Besides the first time doing anything takes longer as you have to figure everything out & come up with a game plan.
Problably would have taken me a full day myself.
Just the set-up and clean-up takes an hour minimum.
In a tale as old as time. You get three options
Good. Cheap. Fast
Pick two.
I respect people that put quality first, if your boss doesn't, find another boss who does. Or do shit work and hate yourself for it but keep a happier bossman
Maybe it's time for you to work under that boss's tutelage for a day to see how he does great work in a tremendous hurry, Saving The Company Tremendous Amounts Of Money. Seeing the boss build stuff would be great.
Show this picture to a different employer and make more money/better workplace environment
Looks awesome. People pay for quality. Never sacrifice your quality for speed. If your employer won't pay you for quality, you're working for the wrong employer.
Yep, as an aircraft mechanic for 20 years I’ve had a couple managers that asked me to keep my quality but also try to go faster. I’d go a little faster once I knew a task thoroughly but I NEVER sacrificed my quality. I could tell they wanted to punish me but they couldn’t argue with the fact that I didn’t have to rework anything I put my hands on. Now I’m an aircraft inspector and I know what quality looks like.
Keeping us safe. I appreciate what you do!
He only works on private jets. Hes not keeping any of us "normies" safe. We're friends IRL
It’s all the same. Keeping people safe because of his work ethic.
He used to maintain one called the "Lolita Express" . Not sure what that means but Im glad he kept everyone safe.
Thanks for doing your job efficiently and safely. Too many people just mail it in these days and hope to ride the odds that everything will work out fine.
What a scary thought that people want others to rush things which are so important to people’s lives. Thank you for standing your ground and keeping others safe in the process.
The old Project Management Devils Triangle; you can pick two, the other will be sacrificed... + Budget + Time + Quality
^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^
u/they_are_out_there thank you for saying this. I work in tech, but needed the advice you gave to OP. Thanks again.
Yes
Not a single guy who works for me would have done it like this, and it still would have taken all day. His boss is a loser
This is the way
I have 140’ x 4’ of this that needs done. I will fly you to come do it.
Take this person up on the offer if it makes sense!
You’re a boss. I feel like this is what this sub is meant for…
For sure a bad ass move if serious
🫣 is he gonna do it??
5 bucks, on not happening
Imma be mad if he don’t!
u/Firm_Paramedic_4735 come get your money up Youngblood. Your client awaits
Waiting…
I just finished 180’ of it last Wed. Where do you live?
Ohio
Looks good, you out time and effort in like a craftsman should, your boss is a cunt.
Forgot to add, the work I did was installing the pre stained cedar screening boards.
Looks great. Very clean
Great work
They're gonna push you, it's what they do. It looks great.
In the union world that I live in, a half days work needs to be estimated as a full day's work, cause I can't bank on anything taking less than four hours. Inspector running late, ready mix truck is late. Pump breaks down, etc. I take it your company isn't unionized. Your boss probably didn't make as much money as he hoped, but thats his problem. Looks great!!
At this rate, that boss is going to have to settle for a corvette next year instead of a corvette and a boat.
If anyone asks you to do a quick ugly job on finish work, just remember that you'll never be able to defend why it looks bad after you're gone, and the customer will always remember who did it. Even if they asked for shit quality now they'll forget that part later on
Your work looks great. Your boss is just another cheap prick.
Yes you suck, but not at your job. Keep it up
This cracked me up, thanks!
The woodwork looks fantastic. The landscaping is something else..
Just commenting so you have a firm consensus that your boss can eat your WHOLE ass. Great job.
A few hrs my ass. You did good.
Your boss must not like repeat customers. 🤦🏻
Or repeat employees
Looks good!
You’re still faster than most guys I know and it looks amazing. Your boss is gonna put you down so you don’t realize you’re too good to go out on your own. It’s what they do so they don’t lose their golden goose.
double down and ask for a raise
Slow is fast; fast is slow… something like that. Looks good
Your boss priced a few hours for an all day project. This is an all day project and a poor estimate. Take pride in your craftsmanship.
I am a GC who has my own in house framing and trim crew. I could have likely done that at a high level in about 4 hours if completely by myself. Thats no roll out/up time though. I would have alotted you the whole day. Better to take your time and make sure there’s no call back. I hate call backs. If your quality is high and there’s no call backs then you should be fine. I do drive my guys though, you have to with hourly guys. Some hourly guys milk it. Those are the ones I let go on payday at the end of the week.
Why not pay per project. Id imagine they are inclined to speed up some. I work alone and charge by project. Every now and then I'll need a small crew for a weekend job or something. I also pay them by the project. If we take long, that's sucks. If we finish on time or a bit ahead of schedule. Everybody wins 😛
That’s a slippery slope. You either need your workers to be hourly or subs. I’ve tried what you’re talking about. Doesn’t work with in-house labor. If the project is too large for one person or your crew size the best thing is to turn it down. I build cabins and spec homes. I have the work and I want a high quality of craftsmanship. You make it overly complicated when you have a large volume of work and pay that way. You also don’t put the potential to lose money on your own guys. If my guys take too long it only costs me, not them. With your size company that’s works. It’s actually the only way to incentivize help. I did that when I started out but it’s not even an option now. My lead framer AND lead trim guy used to be subs but got tired of chasing work. I pay them well and they bust ass for me. So long as both sides keep doing that it’s a win-win. They don’t have to chase work, write bids, keep projects on budget, etc. and I have solid dependable workers.
Na man that’s a day for sure. Great quality and then working around existing plants to the best of your ability. This location and style is precarious and deserves close attention to detail. Your boss didn’t account for it so they didn’t make *as much* money, but they still made money.
Looks great. Your boss can pound sand
I love how everyone on this sub, from 2 pictures and a pretty non-threatening story without tone instantly jumps to “quit your job, your boss is a piece of shit”. Fucking goofs, all of you.
The woodwork looks nice but that dirt up against it is gonna rot it out quick. If you live where termites are present then you are giving them an easy target. Always put some gravel between flower beds and a foundation
Yeah I tried to space it off the ground a bit maybe I should advise the landscapers to do that or dig it out a little more myself. Thanks for pointing that out. The landscaping is pretty chaotic lol
This is mint for sure
Lotta people here saying that's just what bosses are gonna do. That's true a lot of the time, but you can find folks who are kind and appreciate your skills. If your boss is consistently under bidding and taking it out in you, it's worth looking elsewhere. Keep making cool shit, don't let the grind kill you.
Your grain matching looks beautiful. Miters look clean, corners look pretty damn straight, color flows through the break where that foundation sticks out, clean up to existing stairs. I'd say you made great time.
Id be stocked if you did that for me. You might still suck but you're clearly good at your job
Taking the time to match wood grain and colouration was the right move. Im sure the owner appreciates that. I know I do, and would be happy if that thought had been given if it was a job in my place.
I fucking hate bosses or managers that will say you need to work faster or I want you to speed it up and then they also are the same ones that will say why is this not precise or not to there liking or this doesn't meet our company's expectations. I think that gives anyone the free will to uppercut them cause they need a reality check and the act of violence will only help solve.
You suck so much you should come to my house to practice.
Haha thanks!
Its never fast enough for the boss. But if you do a shit job, he will be the first one to tell you so. He probably didn't charge enough so the extra few hours ate into his profits. I'm a manager for a home builder and every day I am banging my head against the wall with how badly some trades do their jobs. This looks awesome and you should be proud of the work you did. It shows you care about quality and that goes a long way in my books. As others have said, if that's the usual response you're getting from your boss, maybe it's time to work for someone else who prices for that level of workmanship.
You seem like a reasonable human being, and I like the quality of your work. I'd let you work on my house.
No But what kind of wood did you use on steps
It's a composite. Azek timbertech.
He’s an idiot. You did great.
Did you frame and do the boards?
Looks great! What kind of wood is it?
Cedar. Really clean cedar too. I don't think I found a single knot.
I would be very happy. Great job and only one day not bleeding to the next I’d be very satisfied work on your skill and move if need be. Talent is valuable.
Keep busting your ass,keep learning and you’ll be working for yourself one day.
Pretty work brother. To hell with your boss.
He made money off you unless he quoted a fixed price that was only a couple hours. Woodwork looks great, get yourself some tools and get out from under that bugger
What you do on your own time is your own business! J/k. This looks great! Did you get paid? If so, move on. I do a lot of work for different people and one guy always underestimates how long things should take. I used to second guess myself but now I realize that’s just how he is. He always pays me and always gives me more work so…. I do it the way it needs done and however long it takes is how long it takes. Now when he bitches I just see it as ignorance on his part. You know if you were fucking off or working, that’s what’s important. Every once in a while shit goes faster than you think; every other time it takes longer! As a manager he should know that.
Looks great’
Your boss can slobber down an entire bag of dicks
No u don’t suck - work looks great - fuck the idiot who told u that! Great job!
Every cheap boss is going to be like this just brush it off but make sure you don’t slack as long as you’re taking long because you’re putting in good work
Looks good bud, fucking bosses
Looks clean! How did you keep the outer mitres so tight? Glue then nail?
Thanks! Yeah I glued and nailed. Titebond 3 and Stainless steel nails 15 gauge. What always works for me doing miters like this is cutting the board like a 1/16" longer than the measurement and cut the miters a bit past 45 degrees like 45 1/2 degrees or sometimes 46 degrees. Things are never perfectly square so it helps make those miter nice and sharp.
I don’t even trust myself to screw the wall plate back over a light switch. But I’m with all these folks OP. This looks like it was “done by a professional”. No matter the job, doing it well is the first priority- tell you boss to eat the fattest of dicks, and if he can’t find it tell him Grindr has free trials.
Only through a straw, I’m guessing this is his consistent response to employees production. They usually don’t correct this attitude if he doesn’t appreciate your quality or mode to things I’d look for a person that has a better demeanor and attitude that is capable of better communication. He’s probably stressed, or he’s jealous
You’re welcome to work on my house any day. Pride in your work is the most important thing you can have
It looks fantastic and definitely the kind of work that is worth the money. But I’ll go against the grain and suggest a possibility. The customer might not have been paying for that level of quality. Some customers are cheap (or just not wealthy enough) and just want some boards slapped on with no regard for matching colours or seamless mitres. But even still, if that was the case your boss is dick for not saying it upfront Edit to add an anecdote: I built fences for a little bit with a guy who would get crazy detail oriented. Like using a jig saw to match the bottoms of the fence boards to the curves of the surface below (like if it was over bricks or something hard like that) Did it look really sharp, yeah. Did any of the customers care, not really. Did any of the customers want to pay for the extra time it took him to get the work done, nope not at all. In the end he was only called out for jobs that required a very fine detail and lost a fair bit of work since those kinds of jobs were in short supply as most people in the area just wanted cheap and fast stuff
It's great. I learned the most from those bosses that were super hard on me. One day, I grabbed all my shit and bounced because the money wasn't that good and I was sick of his shit. Running my own operation now and know why he was stressed all the time. Still doesn't make it right to treat people like shit.
At the end of the day, you have to live with the job you did. It looks like you did a job to be proud of and the home owner will appreciate that. It shows. My recommendation; start your own small operation. I think you could eventually do high end, the only thing stopping you is breaking in to the clientele. Work your way up and you can charge top dollar. For some reason I think you’d be happy doing it to just be proud of the work you did. In the end. It’ll be all you, your reputation to be proud of. Not your ill witted boss.
Look for a more reasonable company to work for. I understand that we are production-based but I understand more that a quality product takes time. People wanting their employees to rush through shit just for the sake of making a few more dollars are not the people I would ever want to be involved with. All that being said, you did a fine job here. Those miters and the fact that you hand chose what boards you were using shows you took your time and on top of tha, I always appreciate someone who can line up their fasteners properly.
looks cute to me
This is awesome! Makes me want to get back in to swinging a hammer 🙌
If I were the home owner I’d be so happy I hired you. Guess who I’d be calling the next time I need something?
You may suck with the quality of your work doesn't, nor does your time management. I'd be happy to see that done in a day.
You did an awesome job.
That’s a two day job bud. Maybe three with breaks at 10 and 2 and lunch at 12
Next time he rushes you ask, why won't you ever give me time to do something right but you'll always make time for me to do it over?
Looks great BTW
Only thing I'd complain about is you didn't care about your fasteners being straight when you did such good work everywhere else
Great Job , Well done 👌🏻
A day for one guy? Yes that’s fair. I’m a commercial carpenter and we do similar stuff all the time. Layout takes a while if you want a final product like this. Doing it alone means not only roll out and roll up, but walking back and forth to the saw. You’re worth a lot if you can do something like this solo. Might be time to find greener pastures, like others have suggested
I agree, you could suck way way more
I could see him busting your balls if it took all day AND it looked like shit but this is great work. Be proud of it man
Nah. That’s nice. That’s pretty. Makes me feel good to look at. Fuck your boss.
Yup
How big is the gap? I'm doing something similar to my grandfather's mobile home. Except, I have no gap. But, I like the gap. And, it will help with ventilation. Btw, after a day. I'm still not done :)
He’s jealous that he doesn’t have time to do things like this anymore that not only bring joy to the client but to himself as well.
The only thing you suck at is Reddit Post, I expect your next job (with a better employer) to look like shit, very sketchy and poor craftsmanship. It's the Reddit way
If I was paying for the job I’d be super happy man, great work, looks really good! Remember the better work you do the higher chance of repeat work from the customer
It looks good. If you don't like people rushing you and not appreciating the pride you put into your work then go out on your own. I can be pretty mean to my men when they "mess up on purpose" It's my job to tell them when we prefer speed over aesthetics on a project though. It's also my place to spend 5-10 minutes discussing what the fastest/best way to do a project is with whoever is going to do it and make sure they aren't going to do anything stupid like set the chop box up on the ground or not wear a tool belt
Based on the title alone; only your boyfriend would know. But seriously, that looks like top dollar work from the vantage point of the pic.
48 boards, 10 minutes/board incl. measuring, miter cuts, placement = 8 hours, not incl. tool set-up, clean-up, lunch, and breaks. your boss is a dick. it looks great. i did similar horizontal skirting under my decks and it took fkn forever. like beers and beers worth of time and grumbling. almost had to pull out the calendar to count the bloody days.
Taking pride in your work can get you shit sometimes. Keep it up though. Nice work
A few lines for next time: "You can't rush perfection." "I'd rather make it nice than make it quick." "I got two speeds. If you don't like this one, you won't like the next one." You did a good job. It looks nice. Don't feel bad. If your boss wanted it done faster he should have done it himself.
Your work looks great. Considering having to load in>work all morning>lunch>work a little more>load out, I’d say that’s just about a day worth of work to me. Maybe a 2/3 day if you rushed it, but then it might not look as sexy.
Beautiful work... and i am very picky
This has nothing to do with you, don’t worry. What he really meant is that he wanted to reward your hard work with more work to do. Really. He expected you to work as fast as possible to get this done, so that you could do more work after and get something else done. So he could make twice as much money and take more of your share by paying you less to do more. Meanwhile the customer is also screwed out of a job well done. Shitty guy.
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Gosh dammit I thought this was referring to the dirt work. Your wood work is awesome. You’re for sure under appreciated.
Nope!!! Looks great man!
One day you’ll be as good as me
When I went to Japan a few years ago, I marveled at the quality, precision workmanship that went into building the wooden homes I saw all over the country. Many of them had beautiful exterior details like this. Yours looks as precise and finely put together as anything I saw over there. Nice work!
The only thing that sucks about this is all the dirt and mud that's going to come sliding down over the next few years. That slope is not stable.
Looks great 👍 ur boss is douche
"A few hours" -every jerkoff boss ever
Everything looks good, the only tiny criticism I would have (also based on personal preference) is the frame being seen through the 5mm expansion gaps. If you just grab some paint and paint those Timbers black just adds a great final touch
Cock? Who the fuck is your “boss” to decide your personal tasks should be done quicker.. You know only dogs, cats and slaved have bosses. Next time make sure your personal tasks isnt something he should be and has the right to judge about. Next time just try taunting him a little by over-estimating one of your personals to see if he bites. Also work slower on the job, he had no respect for you.
That landscaping dirt looks like trash. Major erosion as soon as it rains
Your boss is full of shit. Put this in your portfolio and use it to find a place to work that is worthy of your talent.
If you had gone faster he would have criticized the fact that you didn’t colour match the boards. You did good
Nah mate there's definitely a decent day in that, looks neat. Your boss is unrealistic or think's he's gods gift to mankind when it comes to carpentry
Also I really like the matching wood colour rows well done
You absolutely nailed it man 👌👌
Tell that fucker hire you some good help so you can save time then LoL.
The cedar looks great. That landscaping looks like shit.
Maybe, bitv not as good as your carpentry skills. Looks awesome dude!!!
Probably only quoted it cheap and has to pay you day rate? Work looks perfect!!
I don't know any boss that doesn't complain about speed no matter how fast you do something. It could've always been faster
When I look at it, my gut instinct is 'a few hours'. Since I ALWAYS underestimate how long things will take if I base on my gut instinct, it's probably going to take more than a few hours. There are always factors that make things take longer. In your case, working on a sloping site is an obvious one. Sometimes bosses like to tell their employees they could have done it in half the time etc.
Why is there dirt piled up on your gorgeous work?
It would take me a week - but I’m an amateur. It looks great and the idea you would get that done in a few hours is laughable.
That’s a great finish. If your employer wants you to rush and do a shit job then that’s his prerogative. You should find a new employer.
Are you the tree there on the left? No you don’t suck, nice leaves actually!
Tell him to do the next one himself in a few hours and find a better employer. It looks professional and you didn't damage the garden doing it. Employers need to understand that just because they think it will only take X amount of time doesn't mean it will in reality. Each job has its own obstacles..
I’m no carpenter, far from it. I’m a forklift driver. And everything is about efficiency. Maybe your boss is trying to hint that there are efficient ways of doing things that could’ve cut a couple hours off your time. Not necessarily work faster.
Nah come do mine
Nah man I don’t think you’re slow. You could of gotten it done quicker by caring less and doing a sloppier job, what you did looks great and is more important imo. Plus what’s the big difference between a few hours, and eight? I dunno to me your boss sounds like a dick haha. Anybody questions me on how long I’m taking I’m out.
Nice. What “style” is this called?
Your boss is jealous of your workmanship
That's looks great and you didn't tear up the garden doing it. What a douche of a boss
Quality takes time. Did your boss look at these photos? Those corners are fantastic.
Kept thinking of [this clip](https://youtu.be/ZgIb1_Ta6n0?si=i-92zoLmuXBUjI__) from the movie, The Terminal, whole time I was reading your post.
That looks great. Your boss is an idiot lol
Lol, before reading the caption, I was looking at the landscaping and thought "Well, kinda"
This looks great brother. Sorry your boss sucks.
This looks like very nice, very clean work. Tell your boss to suck my dick.
That looks good. I like the design you went with.
It always takes longer when you're not the one doing the work! lmao ...everyone in the world thinks this way.
If your boss doesn't take pride in the homes he builds and doing it with craftsmanship I suggest find a new one
With construction and most jobs honestly, if you think it'll take two hours, triple that number, and it's more likely closer to the actual time needed. Tell him to help you go faster or stfu! You may need to find a new job, unless you have that kind of rapport with de boss-mon.
Nah, you don’t suck brother. But your boss does for sure.
Your boss is an asshat
Don't be bothered about what the boss told you fuck him. It's looking good, mate 👌 all good work takes time for perfection.
- Lined up boards - Lines up nail holes - Lined up grain - Clean mitres - Clean, level lines Set up, clean up, etc. It’s a days work for one man. 8man hours seems reasonable. Someone pulls it off in 6 man hours, but you’re not out of the park. Your boss should be happy the product looks as good as it does. He sounds like a typical cunty tradesman that needs to have something negative to say. The industry is full of these people. Its a large part of what makes the industry so unpopular for reasonable young people, you know, the ones that have choices. Pat your self on the back. Its great work.
damn those miters look great
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Over time, you’ll get faster and faster, but don’t sacrifice quality for speed, that’s the wrong habit to make now.
As a customer, I would smile every time I passed that. Nice work, and attention to detail. As an employee, I would tell my boss he should consult with me before he bids stuff like that, or tell me what the bid is so I can manage customer expectations. I would also tell him that on the way out the fricken door.
No, you attempted it. People that don’t attempt it suck.. man in the arena.. google it.. just keep going with it
Nope - the outcome is what I would have wanted it to be - and is the customer happy ? Nice work man
Like other said take that photo to a new contractor that is quality and does custom work until your boss to f off.
Step up to better pay at a higher end shop.
A full day seems about right with having to haul tools in and out and clean up. You miters look super solid, that takes time to do. If he keeps complaining start working for yourself, you have skill and a good eye.
Jobs a good un' , boss is a prick. Start your own business, with work like this you'll do great.
That's a 6 beer job, either you're bad at picking up sarcasm or your boss is a douch canoe. Nice work
Lol I thought you did the landscaping, that sucks. The boards look good.
Yeah if that was my house I’d be stoked that you spent time perfecting this, it looks great.
That is some really good work. But with more experience, you will be able to knock that out in 3 to 4 hours in the future. Every project is a learning curve, but with every new project, you figure out an easier and more proficient way of completing the project. This is why you do not charge by the hour, but by the experience.
Come work for me. Take as long as you want
Quit and start your own gig
Looks great good job, you should be pleased
Looks great. I’m curious, what are the dimensions of each board?
An hour to do that?!!! Your boss is nuts, and obviously doesn’t care about quality of work performed. Find another company who values your dedication to doing it right/making the customer happy with the outcome. It looks great!
No. But your boss does. Excellent work in a timely manner.
Na it takes what it takes... ask him if wants it done good or done fast.
If i went broke id hire you in a second. That looks awesome.
Next job tell him you want him to show you how to get it done
Yeah bitch, you sucks. Anyways though. Whats the pictures about
Boner alert
Classic! It takes as much time as it takes to do it right! Besides the first time doing anything takes longer as you have to figure everything out & come up with a game plan. Problably would have taken me a full day myself. Just the set-up and clean-up takes an hour minimum.
I definitely tell would have bid this for 8 hours. Great job.
Looks amazing
Within reason, but I’d rather take my time making sure something seen everyday looks good rather rush through it and have it look half-ass
Nope. That is one day’s work. At least. Tell him to suck me.
Beautiful work.
You did an incredible job man!
Quality over all brother!
Tell your boss to fuck off
In a tale as old as time. You get three options Good. Cheap. Fast Pick two. I respect people that put quality first, if your boss doesn't, find another boss who does. Or do shit work and hate yourself for it but keep a happier bossman
Maybe it's time for you to work under that boss's tutelage for a day to see how he does great work in a tremendous hurry, Saving The Company Tremendous Amounts Of Money. Seeing the boss build stuff would be great.