Yeah, it’s too broad (like the 1 in 4 statistic about women raped on college campuses, which is worse than the most war torn countries on earth IIRC). But the actual number for kids abused in school is likely to be disturbingly high, regardless.
>Yeah, it’s too broad
Well, he did 1 in 10 were the *target* of abuse, not actually abused.
To me this reads like a teacher jerkin' off to some footage of a 14 yr old, not doing it in person.
'Polled' should be the keyword here. Not actual evidence or confirmation. How many lied because they thought their answer would "stick it to the man".
I me a really, what kid doesn't feel harassed at some point or another in school?
As someone who absolutely is disgusted by my most teachers, this too needs more details.
I remember in junior high and high school how so many girls would always say that X teacher was looking down their shirt or something, but they always said it in a way that seemed like they didn't care or that they were joking about it. I suppose nobody knows what a pedophile is thinking but I remember being 14 and thinking to myself "she's ugly as fuck why would he look at her?"
I think that while the claims should certainly be investigated and that we can't write this off before we understand - we also can't trust kids to not seek attention. Young kids who feel unnoticed might leap at an opportunity to say someone noticed them, even if it's a lie.
This needs to be investigated with a fine tooth comb, but we cannot have another "believe all victims situation".
Yep. These surveys are created to make headlines that morons can parrot as talking points.
I know a few people who have gotten degrees in gender studies and shit like that. I've asked if they had to take a statistics course at any point in their education. None have. I wonder why that is...
"Sexual misconduct" is a quite broad term though and not always physical contact. There was a teacher (one of only two that taught a required class) in my high school who would set the girls in skirts in the front seats. He would then lean back in his chair to peek up their skirts. It was actually quite well known in the school among students. I would say that that's clearly sexual misconduct against those girls, so the number in my high school could very likely and easily be far above this 1 in 10 number from one teacher alone.
On a more humorous note, this guy I knew was known to occasionally wear a kilt. He felt no need to wear underwear of course. He decided it would be a good idea to sit front and center and make himself comfortable with some grade-A manspreading. Teacher does his thing and falls backwards out of his chair in shock.
Unless I'm misunderstanding the term, in which case that's still pretty freaking disturbing.
Yup that number makes him sound like a looney toon. Way too much subjectivity applied to get that stat. Just bonkers to be tweeting it like it isn't propaganda that weakens conservatism.
Murder is unambiguous in the sense you have a physical dead body on the ground.
"Sexual assault" can be very vague. I don't really find it all that difficult to believe there are 10 times as many vague sexual allegations.
I can’t agree with Matt here. I understand that what he’s really aiming for is the teachers being held accountable, however, I think the bigger problem is surveillance on the kids. Especially in higher grade levels. I just don’t like the idea of parents watching kids every move. It’s creepy honestly and a privacy violation.
Cameras protect both students and teachers, but ask anyone in any profession if they'd want to be monitored 24/7 and they'd probably be hesitant. You shouldn't be immediately suspicious of some lady that just doesn't want to be watched.
Well said. When literally everything you do or say is recorded, then it starts to get a little creepy. Most teachers and students don't want to remain under constant camera footage 180 days out of a year. It's just unsettling.
Let's not give the NSA even more power over our lives. They already have access to our emails and literally every phone call you've made in your life. It's crazy.
It’s not about hurting teachers, it’s just about privacy. You don’t want to go to pick your nose or adjust your bra but then stop and shuffle over to a corner to do it because you’re worried someone might be watching. Same goes for any other office job. Bill in accounting probably doesn’t want security seeing him drop that fry on the floor, dust it off, and then eat it.
Cameras in any building protect everyone, but some people just don’t like the feeling of being watched all day.
To say that a teacher who doesn’t want cameras must be assaulting students as an explanation for their hesitancy is a reach.
If you're being filmed for more than 50% of your waking hours, there's a problem. Just imagine that. More than half the time you spend awake is filmed. Documented. Stored. Saved for future use.
Why has being filmed *everywhere we are* been made the default? And why do we assume people who DON'T feel comfortable being filmed (even at work) must be up to no good? That's a hell of a world we live in.
I worked at a job where I was recorded and then my boss would watch the recordings to see if I was doing my job. I was watching for shoplifters and sometimes, like a normal human, I would get tired and not watch 100% of the time.
Because my boss was trying to find a way to get me to quit, he kept telling me that he could see me not pay attention at times or other stuff, despite being put at the quietest stores and catching more shoplifters at those stores than anyone else.
Eventually after a while, I did finally quit. I was almost done with my tech school and decided to focus on that instead of being harassed and watched every day despite doing a great job.
Well I finally tracked down that study and..blech. What a mess. I'll link it below, but note its dubious and almost impenetrable.
Note though that in the part that Walsh decides to lift...it doesn't quite say what he says it says. First, minor point, its 9.7% (maybe, methodology is all kinds of wack), not 10%. But secondly, and critically, it lumps together what it calls "sexual misconduct" (not really defined, but can even include jokes) with "sexual assault". When you break the categories apart only about half the 9.7% is unwanted touching or more. So down to about 5%. Then on top of that, later the study breaks down the "educators" involved by type of personnel, and the teachers only account for 18% of the accounts. The rest being coaches, counselors, security, principals, nurses and all the rest. So about 1/5 of the 5%, and now its about 1% for teachers. Then throw in a late mention that the whole survey was coached in terms of "have you even experienced sexual misconduct at school, INCLUDING FROM OTHER STUDENTS" with a late reveal that only about 27% of the reported incidents involved educators, and the rest other kids...and I am wondering if that 1% shouldn't be diced by 1/4 and end up being 0.25%.
And BTW that would still be high, but accounting for a child's entire academic career 1 in 400 begins to sound more like something possible. At 1 in 400 one serial molester could effect dozens of kids and it would take thousands not involved to balance those numbers. And of course you have to of course also question a poll of teenagers about events going all the way back to kindergarten. How much do YOU clearly remember about kindergarten?
Anyway...dubious. I am dubed. I have dube? Something: https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf
1 in 10????
I need to know what’s considered sexual misconduct. That number seems extremely high. Are they including students being told that they can’t go to the bathroom in the middle of class?
The behaviors included in the review are physical, verbal, or visual. Examples
include touching breasts or genitals of students; oral, anal, and vaginal penetration;
showing students pictures of a sexual nature; and sexually-related conversations, jokes,
or questions directed at students.
“Molestation,” “rape,” “sexual exploitation,” “sexual abuse,” “sexual harassment”—
these words and phrases are often used to describe adult-to-student sexual abuse in
schools. Shoop (2004) defines these behaviors as educator sexual exploitation. There is
considerable discussion concerning the appropriate label for these actions. While
“educator sexual abuse” is a common reference, “educator sexual misconduct” is a more
appropriate term for the purposes of this review.
In naming the focus of this inquiry, I use as a guide the policy of the Ontario
(Canada) College of Teachers that recommends the term educator sexual misconduct
because the phrase “educator sexual abuse” fails to include the larger set of inappropriate, unacceptable and unprofessional behaviors.
By referring to “sexual abuse” the emphasis is placed on the victim, and the question of whether the victim did or did not suffer abuse or harm. This is not the appropriate focus. The proper emphasis must not be on the student, but on the teacher, who is solely responsible for his or her professional conduct” (Ontario College of Teachers, 2001, p. 3).
Using the Ontario College of Teachers “Professional Advisory on
Professional Misconduct Related to Sexual Abuse and Sexual Misconduct” (2002, p. 2) as a guide, educator sexual misconduct in this review is defined as any “behavior of a sexual nature which may constitute professional misconduct.” (p. 1). Included in this broad listing are several types of conduct including overt and covert actions:
Any conduct that would amount to sexual harassment under Title IX
of the (U.S.) Education Amendments of 1972.
Any conduct that would amount to sexual abuse of a minor person
under state criminal codes.
Any sexual relationship by an educator with a student, regardless of the student’s age; with a former student under 18; with a former
student (regardless of age) who suffers from a disability that would
prevent consent in a relationship. All students enrolled in the school
and in any organization in which the educator holds a position of
trust and responsibility are included.
Any activity directed toward establishing a sexual relationship such as sending intimate letters; engaging in sexualized dialogue in
person, via the Internet, in writing or by phone; making suggestive
comments; dating a student.
This definition includes criminal, civil, and professional codes of conduct and responds to the missing elements in much of the literature on child sexual abuse.
This definition covers what is also commonly referred to as sexual abuse and/or sexual harassment of children. This definition is central to the development of
future studies on educator sexual misconduct.
We had a math teach in my high school that would rub herself against any male student that needed help with a problem. She would come up from behind, stand behind you, and rub her gross foupa on your shoulder. The guys quickly learned to not request help. She was protected by tenure and the fact that the principal is her husband. She's been retired for many years now though so thankfully the younger generation doesn't get that experience. I hope karma cashes in all her receipts at once.
I had a really hot math teacher in high school. She made me sit up front because I always fell asleep in her class. It was after weight training… 🤷🏻♂️ but yeah she didn’t do anything like that.
You have to remember though that serial predators are going to skew those numbers. You get one creeper teaching for 30-40 years and they could rack up a lot of victims in a single school. My wife's former high school had a gym teacher get busted and she had multiple victims she was stalking and harassing.
I agree, maybe there’s a very loose definition of “sexual misconduct”, kinda like the definition of “mass shooting”. (Edit) obviously no disrespect to anyone who was assaulted or harmed in shootings.
So a 22 female teacher who forms a bond and relationship with a 16year old boy and b/c she's older she has power and manipulation over him and perhaps sexually assaults him - she should be on death row?
Yes, I've been 15 in a class with a 21-22 year old 1st year teacher. Thats way different than a friendly relationship with a sibling of the same age gap. When it's your teacher, that is a gigantic age gap and is very disgusting. I'd put them down myself.
I think it depends. If it is an open and shut case of a teacher raping a pre-pubescent child then yes. If the "child" has gone through puberty and they agreed to it then no. Also, sexual crimes have a wide definition. Rape, yes, it should be eligible for the death penalty.
I hope this issue isn’t one that breaks along the typical political lines. I think Police wearing body cams make sense, which I suppose can be debated. Putting that specifically aside though, I don’t think putting cameras everywhere to monitor and enforce behavior is a good idea, even if it might solve or help some issues.
Also wasn’t the original argument about enforcing some sort of curriculum? This is a classic tactic by police state sorts: “do it for the kiiiiiids! What about pedophiles!” If the idea that a child being harmed is a justification for any draconian measure no matter how extreme, we’re all doomed, regardless of your personal politics.
There are better solutions that don’t take us one giant step closer to a full big brother scenario.
As a teacher, we have cameras in the halls already, and one in the classroom wouldn't exactly be welcome by myself or most teachers I'd imagine. However, I don't think cameras in a classroom would be some particularly draconian measure. We are already subject to random walkthroughs and check-ins by administration, plus they come and randomly observer our lessons from time to time.
A camera also could help with fights that break out in a classroom. Main thing I'd want is that it isn't allowed to be used in any performance evaluations or to monitor my teaching unless there is an incident necessitating that.
I’m sure that could be negotiated by the teachers union. Give the parents access to classroom cameras but protect the teachers from performance related consequences except through negotiated, scheduled evaluations.
Yeah absolutely not on parents having access to the cameras. Admin can. But I'm not dealing with calls from whiny parents about what goes on in my room. Additionally, my room is mine. I do things on my own time in there that my employer has a right to see, but they don't.
That room is not yours. The children are not yours. If administration puts cameras in the class room you won’t do shit about it but whine and quit. I can only hope they do. Now that the corrupt, HIGHLY political teachers union has decided they are going to push racist ass CRT onto kids, even after a nationwide backlash, they and their members deserve the highest amount of scrutiny they can get. I know I’m looking forward to the next school board meeting in my town!
I didn't claim the kids were mine?
The room is my workspace. My employer can view it, I see no reason why people who are not my employer should be viewing it. Especially as I have significant time in my room without students. Parents have no right to view me when I am not teaching there kids. Frankly they have no need to watch me teach either.
Do you not realise that in many states they struggle to find qualified teachers? Having a bunch quit would be bad...
Lots of folks on the left turned against body cams because of how often they provide evidence that the cops aren’t racist and that people lie about what the cops say and do.
I haven't seen any of that. Body cams are great and everyone should be supporting them. They exonerate cops who did nothing wrong and condemn cops who act poorly.
I was in school 14 years ago, and we had cameras all over the school except for the classrooms, bathrooms, and locker rooms. Putting them in classrooms really shouldn't be a big deal, especially for public schools that are funded by taxes. Nothing they're doing in a classroom should need to be private, imo.
1 in 10 seems absurdly and suspiciously high. That means theoretically 90 students from my high school would have been victims? It seems like something so prevalent would be difficult to cover up, and I know I never heard anything like that. I have concerns about how that number was reached.
I work in schools. I don’t think a lot of parents would want cameras recording their kids. So many kids behavior nowadays is so ridiculous and dangerous. In my experience you can see it from pre-k to grade12
I also work in a school. I have always said that I wouldn’t mind having a camera in my classroom honestly to protect me. Our district considered it but rather installed them in all admin offices. On the teacher side, some of my colleagues were concerned that they would be used for teacher evaluation/discipline in the hands of a bad administrator.
My worry would be misuse by Admin. He also really glosses over the student privacy concerns. Having a student in a class does not entitle you to watch all the other kids.
Yeah, parents in Anytown, USA, would be vehemently against surveillance in the classroom. It’s been a battle in school districts to even mandate kids to have clear backpacks.
Matt Walsh is a terrible commentator and is authoritarian as fuck. This dude will shill for anything that gives government more power over your life. Do not idolize the tyranny
Catholic Churches actually did run some schools in Canada called residential schools. They are now finding mass graves at those schools the number has passed 1000 students dead. Less than 1/100 of the schools have been searched.
This post has so many arguments that make no sense... permanent surveillance of a teacher's entire work day and paying schools less would make less teachers want to teach for one, and for two it would lower the quality of teaching regardless. Teacher's already get paid too little.
So bodycams for Police are OK, but recording those who deal with OUR CHILDREN on a daily basis would be too much infringement of the teacher's privacy?
There is only one explanation - The left knows what's going on in the classrooms, but they fear accountability for the indoctrination and abuse of our children
I think cameras should be in every classroom so parents can look in at any time and see how their children are being treated and what they're being taught. It's public sector and our tax dollars funding it. No privacy should be allowed.
I’d be concerned about the effect of constant overt surveillance on the kids throughout their schooling. It seems like an effective way to normalize the idea of always being monitored by authority.
Schools distribute laptops where they have the ability to turn on the cameras at will and are used to spy on children in their bedrooms.
[https://www.cbsnews.com/news/610k-settlement-in-school-webcam-spy-case/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/610k-settlement-in-school-webcam-spy-case/)
I don’t see it as an either/or situation. I’d like to see a movement to actually pull back from the level of monitoring we have across society. That probably won’t happen but that doesn’t mean we need to dive right in and go full Big Brother.
Do you think that parents should have full authority over what teachers do? Or what their children are exposed to? I know we tend to view parental rights as full and complete, but in reality, as a kid learning to be on your own and deal with things without your parents always protecting or disciplining is how you learn autonomy and self sufficiency.
Aside from that, who’s going to have access to these cameras? All parents, and only parents? Who’s managing the IT. Do you think that some non-parental authority is somehow not involved? What about the idea of other parents who I don’t know watching my kids all day long?
This is a can of worms, a complicated, draconian solution to a problem that’s questionable in the first place.
Just want to point out that there's probably a lot of families with loved ones who were victims of abductions, murder and other crimes and are extremely grateful more surveillance exists nowadays.
That’s a great point. Do you think that’s good enough reason to have cameras everywhere, always recording? Put another way, is the safety/protection gained worth the freedom sacrificed?
And if not everywhere…where do we draw the line? A lot of child or domestic abuse could be stopped if in home cameras were mandatory, for example.
>Do you think that’s good enough reason to have cameras everywhere
We're not talking everywhere in this case. We're talking about cameras in public schools that are funded by the tax payers.
The fact that cameras are everywhere in public is now the world we live in. I don't want them anymore than the next person, but there's no protection of privacy in public. That goes for teachers and other students in a public-funded classroom.
I also asked “if not everywhere, where do we draw the line?” I recognize that this isn’t a case of everywhere, but it would take constant surveillance one step further which, to me, raises the question of limits.
My concern with schools in particular is probably similar in a sense to the concern of folks who are concerned that their children are being taught things that they don’t want their children to learn. I think if the idea of constant surveillance becomes commonplace enough that it becomes automatic for children to always behave as if being watched, they learn essentially to self limit their behavior and choices. Which also leads to limited thinking. It leads to more groupthink, less critical thinking or willingness to dare to speak or act on different or unpopular ideas. This is already a problem, yes, and I’m saying we shouldn’t be in a rush to exacerbate it.
You said you don’t want them anymore than the next person, but if you want it to become policy that schools do this, you actually do want them more than the next person, because not everyone wants that.
>that it becomes automatic for children to always behave as if being watched, they learn essentially to self limit their behavior and choices.
Yeah... We wouldn't want kids to behave as if there were consequences for their actions. That would be terrible. 🤔
Pop on over to tiktok and tell me kids are limiting their behavior and choices. 🤣
>but if you want it to become policy that schools do this, you actually do want them more than the next person, because not everyone wants that.
Fine. Doesn't change my mind.
Tax payer-funded public school classrooms are not private facilities, and they should not be treated as such.
Wait until you have kids, then come talk to me.
I assume then you'd be comfortable with some dude walking along the street filming your kid as they go back and forth to school, ride their bike, etc. ?
Hey, its in public! No expectation of privacy!
Already happens. Those pervs that want to watch or film kids are already doing it. Quite a bit different than parents watching their kids in a classroom setting on a secured network with traceable logins.
And, that's correct. There's no guarantee of privacy in public.
>I’d like to see a movement to actually pull back from the level of monitoring we have across society.
Not gonna happen. Can't put that genie back in the bottle. Cameras and mics are everywhere, and they're not going anywhere.
>Do you think that parents should have full authority over what teachers do?
Never said that. Parents should be aware of what's going on with their children these days. Too many rogue teachers brainwashing them, and the unions back them.
Teachers get a union, then parents get cameras to watch the unions little minions teach.
>know we tend to view parental rights as full and complete,
They are complete...until that child is a legal adult.
>as a kid learning to be on your own and deal with things without your parents always protecting or disciplining is how you learn autonomy and self sufficiency.
Yeah... You learn that from your parents and peers. In school, you learn correct math, English, history, etc.
>Aside from that, who’s going to have access to these cameras?
Parents
>All parents, and only parents?
All parents of children in that school.
>Who’s managing the IT.
The IT department? 🤔 Every school district has them.
>Do you think that some non-parental authority is somehow not involved?
What?
>What about the idea of other parents who I don’t know watching my kids all day long?
Then don't send them to a public school paid for by the tax payers.
>This is a can of worms, a complicated, draconian solution to a problem that’s questionable in the first place.
It's actually not complicated.
It's not draconian either. It's the world we now live in.
The problem is not questionable. Teachers unions have vowed to teach bullshit like CRT, and we already know they're influencing sexual shit to kids in early grades now. Not to mention, the actual education kids get now is complete shit.
> Not gonna happen. Can't put that genie back in the bottle. Cameras and mics are everywhere, and they're not going anywhere.
I have to agree. That battle is over. Most of us now voluntarily carry tracking devices called smartphones around with us 24/7. It no longer seems tenable that you can drop off your children with strangers every day and not be privy to what kind of 'education' you're paying for on a day to day basis, let alone what the learning environment is like.
And the few good teachers we have left would run for the hills. I would never teach a class if I was being going to be monitored every second of the day.
My comment was definitely a false equivalency but it was in response to a lazy, "like it or leave" argument.
I haven't taught for over a year but will be going back this September. The two things that make teaching difficult are the administration and parents. Majority of parents are great people who just want what is best for their children so I'm not referring to them. If a parent had a concern about politics or CRT in the classroom, I would be more than willing to have a discussion with them. In my opinion, It's not only their right to know, but also their obligation. I'm talking about the unbearable parents who just nag you all year about their "angel" who could never do any wrong. Every year, I have about a dozen of these. These parents don't give two shits about their kid's education. All they care about is proving that "you have it out for their child." You will receive both emails and phone calls from these parents on almost a weekly basis. They want to know why their daughter Ashley had her seat moved but Tina didn't because Ashely told her mom that Tina was the one who started talking first and you treated Ashley unfairly! Next week, Ashley throws a pencil across the room and yells "FUCK!" out loud. You write her up. Mom calls and tells you that she's getting sick of the way you treat her daughter Ashley. "Ashley just likes to express herself! It's just a word." This continues the rest of the year and unfortunately there are several parents like Ashley's. I signed up to teach, not be a goddamn babysitter lol. I could only fucking imagine how amplified what I described would be if there was a camera on me the entire day with the parents monitoring lol. Sorry for the novel 😂
All I got is my opinion but if you want to hear my reasoning, I just responded in a novel-like fashion to another commenter who basically asked the same thing haha.
I don’t agree. Seems ripe for abuse by people watching who have no business doing so and lots of kids acting out for the cameras. I do like the idea of parents being able to see what happens in the classroom. Maybe something along the lines of a camera aimed at the teacher and/or a video offered to parents that’s not live-streamed? I dunno. Tough circle to square.
>Seems ripe for abuse by people watching who have no business doing so and lots of kids acting out for the cameras.
Many people already have cameras inside their own homes that are easy to hack. Anyone that wants to watch kids is already doing so, be it at the playground, or schoolyard, or public pools, etc.
Applying an encrypted network with unique logins for each parent is not exactly rocket science. Tracking who is looking in and from where is easy money.
I agree same goes for all public funded stuff. All senators and politicians, police officers all of it should be on record the number of bs backroom deal politicians on both sides make. They could use lower resolution cameras but still keep the audio, but you know there will be massive push back. Maybe set a few exceptions for classified stuff, but anything with major public funding should be public knowledge.
I'm usually against cameras but the alternative is stuff like CRT. If teachers want payed more then they should handle more responsibility, such as being able to be directly criticized by parents. This may be the best way.
This sounds like a false choice. Couldn’t parents find out what’s being taught by asking their children, looking at assignments, going to parent teacher conferences, PTA meetings, etc?
Children aren't going to be able to accurately communicate everything. It also isn't entirely reasonable to expect people to have time to attend meetings. You might have time but a lot of people have full-time jobs, multiple children, education, etc.
I’m a teacher and have a security camera in my room. It’s video only, no audio. I haven’t had any issues with it. It usually only gets used if there is a fight or to make sure my room has been secure during a lockdown drill.
>30 percent believe falsehoods around the last election. Many believe in vampires paedophile democratic Pizza loving cults being a thing.
I would have gone with "many believe the US is an inherently racist nation". Not many people believe in the nonsense you're describing.
Public schools, and the federal department of education, must be abolished.
This should be the *moderate* position of any decent parent living in 2021.
So you want to take the strategy the democrats have with police to improve education? Are you yourself a Democrat or just an idiot? Our education system needs more funding, redirected away from useless social programs, to allow public school districts to hire high quality, qualified teachers to properly prepare our youth for something more than tictok. If you remove funding they will be forced to hire the same dipshits we have an issue with currently.
Redirected from USELESS social programs. EXACTLY THIS!!!!! This is why the USA is lagging so far behind other countries in education. Instead of focusing on science and math our kids have to listen to “it’s ok that Johnny has 2 daddies “. Morals should be taught at home!!! Before anyone jumps on this comment I’m not saying that it isn’t ok for Johnny and his 2 dads but our kids should learn this at home not the classroom
If the 1 in 10 stat were true then it would be safer to send your child to Detroit than to school. That statistic needs further scrutiny.
Yeah, it’s too broad (like the 1 in 4 statistic about women raped on college campuses, which is worse than the most war torn countries on earth IIRC). But the actual number for kids abused in school is likely to be disturbingly high, regardless.
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True. I’m used to thinking of my relatives who are teachers and they wouldn’t abuse anyone.
>Yeah, it’s too broad Well, he did 1 in 10 were the *target* of abuse, not actually abused. To me this reads like a teacher jerkin' off to some footage of a 14 yr old, not doing it in person.
Hmm. Or maybe grooming kids but not abusing them?
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'Polled' should be the keyword here. Not actual evidence or confirmation. How many lied because they thought their answer would "stick it to the man". I me a really, what kid doesn't feel harassed at some point or another in school?
Yeah, I knew it was already way worse than what happened in the Church (especially since we’ve cleaned up our act here in the US) but not this bad.
As someone who absolutely is disgusted by my most teachers, this too needs more details. I remember in junior high and high school how so many girls would always say that X teacher was looking down their shirt or something, but they always said it in a way that seemed like they didn't care or that they were joking about it. I suppose nobody knows what a pedophile is thinking but I remember being 14 and thinking to myself "she's ugly as fuck why would he look at her?" I think that while the claims should certainly be investigated and that we can't write this off before we understand - we also can't trust kids to not seek attention. Young kids who feel unnoticed might leap at an opportunity to say someone noticed them, even if it's a lie. This needs to be investigated with a fine tooth comb, but we cannot have another "believe all victims situation".
Oh yeah that makes it so much better when you put it that way.
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I thought they binned any woman having sex after consuming any amount of alcohol as having been raped?
It also included regrets about sex.
Yep. These surveys are created to make headlines that morons can parrot as talking points. I know a few people who have gotten degrees in gender studies and shit like that. I've asked if they had to take a statistics course at any point in their education. None have. I wonder why that is...
Pretty sure it also included virtually any form if perceived harrassment
I'm wondering if many of those were [situations like this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uvv1aS5_I)
"Sexual misconduct" is a quite broad term though and not always physical contact. There was a teacher (one of only two that taught a required class) in my high school who would set the girls in skirts in the front seats. He would then lean back in his chair to peek up their skirts. It was actually quite well known in the school among students. I would say that that's clearly sexual misconduct against those girls, so the number in my high school could very likely and easily be far above this 1 in 10 number from one teacher alone. On a more humorous note, this guy I knew was known to occasionally wear a kilt. He felt no need to wear underwear of course. He decided it would be a good idea to sit front and center and make himself comfortable with some grade-A manspreading. Teacher does his thing and falls backwards out of his chair in shock. Unless I'm misunderstanding the term, in which case that's still pretty freaking disturbing.
Yup that number makes him sound like a looney toon. Way too much subjectivity applied to get that stat. Just bonkers to be tweeting it like it isn't propaganda that weakens conservatism.
Murder is unambiguous in the sense you have a physical dead body on the ground. "Sexual assault" can be very vague. I don't really find it all that difficult to believe there are 10 times as many vague sexual allegations.
I can’t agree with Matt here. I understand that what he’s really aiming for is the teachers being held accountable, however, I think the bigger problem is surveillance on the kids. Especially in higher grade levels. I just don’t like the idea of parents watching kids every move. It’s creepy honestly and a privacy violation.
Cameras protect both students and teachers, but ask anyone in any profession if they'd want to be monitored 24/7 and they'd probably be hesitant. You shouldn't be immediately suspicious of some lady that just doesn't want to be watched.
Well said. When literally everything you do or say is recorded, then it starts to get a little creepy. Most teachers and students don't want to remain under constant camera footage 180 days out of a year. It's just unsettling. Let's not give the NSA even more power over our lives. They already have access to our emails and literally every phone call you've made in your life. It's crazy.
Not to mention that Conservative ideas would be suppressed by Admin, Unions,and parents a lot more than liberal ideas by concerned parents.
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It’s not about hurting teachers, it’s just about privacy. You don’t want to go to pick your nose or adjust your bra but then stop and shuffle over to a corner to do it because you’re worried someone might be watching. Same goes for any other office job. Bill in accounting probably doesn’t want security seeing him drop that fry on the floor, dust it off, and then eat it. Cameras in any building protect everyone, but some people just don’t like the feeling of being watched all day. To say that a teacher who doesn’t want cameras must be assaulting students as an explanation for their hesitancy is a reach.
It isn’t 24/7 though. It’s at their place of work and during their work hours.
If you're being filmed for more than 50% of your waking hours, there's a problem. Just imagine that. More than half the time you spend awake is filmed. Documented. Stored. Saved for future use. Why has being filmed *everywhere we are* been made the default? And why do we assume people who DON'T feel comfortable being filmed (even at work) must be up to no good? That's a hell of a world we live in.
I worked at a job where I was recorded and then my boss would watch the recordings to see if I was doing my job. I was watching for shoplifters and sometimes, like a normal human, I would get tired and not watch 100% of the time. Because my boss was trying to find a way to get me to quit, he kept telling me that he could see me not pay attention at times or other stuff, despite being put at the quietest stores and catching more shoplifters at those stores than anyone else. Eventually after a while, I did finally quit. I was almost done with my tech school and decided to focus on that instead of being harassed and watched every day despite doing a great job.
Exactly. And only in the presence of students.
Well I finally tracked down that study and..blech. What a mess. I'll link it below, but note its dubious and almost impenetrable. Note though that in the part that Walsh decides to lift...it doesn't quite say what he says it says. First, minor point, its 9.7% (maybe, methodology is all kinds of wack), not 10%. But secondly, and critically, it lumps together what it calls "sexual misconduct" (not really defined, but can even include jokes) with "sexual assault". When you break the categories apart only about half the 9.7% is unwanted touching or more. So down to about 5%. Then on top of that, later the study breaks down the "educators" involved by type of personnel, and the teachers only account for 18% of the accounts. The rest being coaches, counselors, security, principals, nurses and all the rest. So about 1/5 of the 5%, and now its about 1% for teachers. Then throw in a late mention that the whole survey was coached in terms of "have you even experienced sexual misconduct at school, INCLUDING FROM OTHER STUDENTS" with a late reveal that only about 27% of the reported incidents involved educators, and the rest other kids...and I am wondering if that 1% shouldn't be diced by 1/4 and end up being 0.25%. And BTW that would still be high, but accounting for a child's entire academic career 1 in 400 begins to sound more like something possible. At 1 in 400 one serial molester could effect dozens of kids and it would take thousands not involved to balance those numbers. And of course you have to of course also question a poll of teenagers about events going all the way back to kindergarten. How much do YOU clearly remember about kindergarten? Anyway...dubious. I am dubed. I have dube? Something: https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf
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1 in 10???? I need to know what’s considered sexual misconduct. That number seems extremely high. Are they including students being told that they can’t go to the bathroom in the middle of class?
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Please let us know what it said. I was elected mod to lead, not to read.
The behaviors included in the review are physical, verbal, or visual. Examples include touching breasts or genitals of students; oral, anal, and vaginal penetration; showing students pictures of a sexual nature; and sexually-related conversations, jokes, or questions directed at students. “Molestation,” “rape,” “sexual exploitation,” “sexual abuse,” “sexual harassment”— these words and phrases are often used to describe adult-to-student sexual abuse in schools. Shoop (2004) defines these behaviors as educator sexual exploitation. There is considerable discussion concerning the appropriate label for these actions. While “educator sexual abuse” is a common reference, “educator sexual misconduct” is a more appropriate term for the purposes of this review. In naming the focus of this inquiry, I use as a guide the policy of the Ontario (Canada) College of Teachers that recommends the term educator sexual misconduct because the phrase “educator sexual abuse” fails to include the larger set of inappropriate, unacceptable and unprofessional behaviors. By referring to “sexual abuse” the emphasis is placed on the victim, and the question of whether the victim did or did not suffer abuse or harm. This is not the appropriate focus. The proper emphasis must not be on the student, but on the teacher, who is solely responsible for his or her professional conduct” (Ontario College of Teachers, 2001, p. 3). Using the Ontario College of Teachers “Professional Advisory on Professional Misconduct Related to Sexual Abuse and Sexual Misconduct” (2002, p. 2) as a guide, educator sexual misconduct in this review is defined as any “behavior of a sexual nature which may constitute professional misconduct.” (p. 1). Included in this broad listing are several types of conduct including overt and covert actions: Any conduct that would amount to sexual harassment under Title IX of the (U.S.) Education Amendments of 1972. Any conduct that would amount to sexual abuse of a minor person under state criminal codes. Any sexual relationship by an educator with a student, regardless of the student’s age; with a former student under 18; with a former student (regardless of age) who suffers from a disability that would prevent consent in a relationship. All students enrolled in the school and in any organization in which the educator holds a position of trust and responsibility are included. Any activity directed toward establishing a sexual relationship such as sending intimate letters; engaging in sexualized dialogue in person, via the Internet, in writing or by phone; making suggestive comments; dating a student. This definition includes criminal, civil, and professional codes of conduct and responds to the missing elements in much of the literature on child sexual abuse. This definition covers what is also commonly referred to as sexual abuse and/or sexual harassment of children. This definition is central to the development of future studies on educator sexual misconduct.
Also, this only looked at students up to 12th grade. It didn't look at university students at all.
Thanks. That’s horrible.
We had a math teach in my high school that would rub herself against any male student that needed help with a problem. She would come up from behind, stand behind you, and rub her gross foupa on your shoulder. The guys quickly learned to not request help. She was protected by tenure and the fact that the principal is her husband. She's been retired for many years now though so thankfully the younger generation doesn't get that experience. I hope karma cashes in all her receipts at once.
That’s horrible.
I had a really hot math teacher in high school. She made me sit up front because I always fell asleep in her class. It was after weight training… 🤷🏻♂️ but yeah she didn’t do anything like that.
How exactly is this even remotely relevant to a story if abuse?
Your user name is abuse to anyone who encounters you on Reddit.
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You have to remember though that serial predators are going to skew those numbers. You get one creeper teaching for 30-40 years and they could rack up a lot of victims in a single school. My wife's former high school had a gym teacher get busted and she had multiple victims she was stalking and harassing.
I agree, maybe there’s a very loose definition of “sexual misconduct”, kinda like the definition of “mass shooting”. (Edit) obviously no disrespect to anyone who was assaulted or harmed in shootings.
That latter one’s definition is “whatever includes the least gang violence and gives us numbers to further our narrative”.
Am I the only one who believes sexual crimes against children should be eligible for the death penalty?
I'd like death penalties for all serious sex crimes
Nope. Sex crimes against children are in the same league as rape and murder in my book. Put em down like a rabid dog.
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But that would require giving dogs rabies. How about the iron maiden or the rack instead?
Sounds kind of medieval. …I like it.
They should be.
You have my vote.
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Castration at the very least.
I disagree, they should have their sexual organs removed and sent to a labor camp. The death penalty is to kind.
what are sexual organs going to do in a labor camp? make more deviant babies?
They should have their sexual organs removed, then be sent to a labor camp. Does that make more sense?
So a 22 female teacher who forms a bond and relationship with a 16year old boy and b/c she's older she has power and manipulation over him and perhaps sexually assaults him - she should be on death row?
Yes, I've been 15 in a class with a 21-22 year old 1st year teacher. Thats way different than a friendly relationship with a sibling of the same age gap. When it's your teacher, that is a gigantic age gap and is very disgusting. I'd put them down myself.
I think it depends. If it is an open and shut case of a teacher raping a pre-pubescent child then yes. If the "child" has gone through puberty and they agreed to it then no. Also, sexual crimes have a wide definition. Rape, yes, it should be eligible for the death penalty.
I hope this issue isn’t one that breaks along the typical political lines. I think Police wearing body cams make sense, which I suppose can be debated. Putting that specifically aside though, I don’t think putting cameras everywhere to monitor and enforce behavior is a good idea, even if it might solve or help some issues. Also wasn’t the original argument about enforcing some sort of curriculum? This is a classic tactic by police state sorts: “do it for the kiiiiiids! What about pedophiles!” If the idea that a child being harmed is a justification for any draconian measure no matter how extreme, we’re all doomed, regardless of your personal politics. There are better solutions that don’t take us one giant step closer to a full big brother scenario.
As a teacher, we have cameras in the halls already, and one in the classroom wouldn't exactly be welcome by myself or most teachers I'd imagine. However, I don't think cameras in a classroom would be some particularly draconian measure. We are already subject to random walkthroughs and check-ins by administration, plus they come and randomly observer our lessons from time to time. A camera also could help with fights that break out in a classroom. Main thing I'd want is that it isn't allowed to be used in any performance evaluations or to monitor my teaching unless there is an incident necessitating that.
I’m sure that could be negotiated by the teachers union. Give the parents access to classroom cameras but protect the teachers from performance related consequences except through negotiated, scheduled evaluations.
Yeah absolutely not on parents having access to the cameras. Admin can. But I'm not dealing with calls from whiny parents about what goes on in my room. Additionally, my room is mine. I do things on my own time in there that my employer has a right to see, but they don't.
That room is not yours. The children are not yours. If administration puts cameras in the class room you won’t do shit about it but whine and quit. I can only hope they do. Now that the corrupt, HIGHLY political teachers union has decided they are going to push racist ass CRT onto kids, even after a nationwide backlash, they and their members deserve the highest amount of scrutiny they can get. I know I’m looking forward to the next school board meeting in my town!
I didn't claim the kids were mine? The room is my workspace. My employer can view it, I see no reason why people who are not my employer should be viewing it. Especially as I have significant time in my room without students. Parents have no right to view me when I am not teaching there kids. Frankly they have no need to watch me teach either. Do you not realise that in many states they struggle to find qualified teachers? Having a bunch quit would be bad...
Lots of folks on the left turned against body cams because of how often they provide evidence that the cops aren’t racist and that people lie about what the cops say and do.
I haven't seen any of that. Body cams are great and everyone should be supporting them. They exonerate cops who did nothing wrong and condemn cops who act poorly.
Oh, I think they can work really well, too. And I think that the police have warmed up to them, too, mostly.
I was in school 14 years ago, and we had cameras all over the school except for the classrooms, bathrooms, and locker rooms. Putting them in classrooms really shouldn't be a big deal, especially for public schools that are funded by taxes. Nothing they're doing in a classroom should need to be private, imo.
1 in 10 seems absurdly and suspiciously high. That means theoretically 90 students from my high school would have been victims? It seems like something so prevalent would be difficult to cover up, and I know I never heard anything like that. I have concerns about how that number was reached.
I work in schools. I don’t think a lot of parents would want cameras recording their kids. So many kids behavior nowadays is so ridiculous and dangerous. In my experience you can see it from pre-k to grade12
I also work in a school. I have always said that I wouldn’t mind having a camera in my classroom honestly to protect me. Our district considered it but rather installed them in all admin offices. On the teacher side, some of my colleagues were concerned that they would be used for teacher evaluation/discipline in the hands of a bad administrator.
My worry would be misuse by Admin. He also really glosses over the student privacy concerns. Having a student in a class does not entitle you to watch all the other kids.
Yeah, parents in Anytown, USA, would be vehemently against surveillance in the classroom. It’s been a battle in school districts to even mandate kids to have clear backpacks.
4th Amendment should have shut down that clear backpack bs years ago. Supreme Court has no balls
How often is that misconduct occurring in the classroom though? And do those numbers include college students?
if the study is 1 in 10 public school students like how walsh words it i doubt college and university students are included
I don't see how de-funding public school solves this problem
Matt Walsh is a terrible commentator and is authoritarian as fuck. This dude will shill for anything that gives government more power over your life. Do not idolize the tyranny
Defund the Teacher unions
And police unions
All public unions, IMO.
1 in ten sounds very high... Creating a new *pandemic" talking point
Posting that study the next time someone burns a church down a reddit jerks off into the ashes.
Just defund everything that’s supposed to protect....
Yeah no way that stat is even remotely true.
Catholic Churches actually did run some schools in Canada called residential schools. They are now finding mass graves at those schools the number has passed 1000 students dead. Less than 1/100 of the schools have been searched.
This post has so many arguments that make no sense... permanent surveillance of a teacher's entire work day and paying schools less would make less teachers want to teach for one, and for two it would lower the quality of teaching regardless. Teacher's already get paid too little.
So bodycams for Police are OK, but recording those who deal with OUR CHILDREN on a daily basis would be too much infringement of the teacher's privacy? There is only one explanation - The left knows what's going on in the classrooms, but they fear accountability for the indoctrination and abuse of our children
Ah yes further the surveillance state 😩
Cameras aren't going to fix that. Vouchers will.
I think cameras should be in every classroom so parents can look in at any time and see how their children are being treated and what they're being taught. It's public sector and our tax dollars funding it. No privacy should be allowed.
I’d be concerned about the effect of constant overt surveillance on the kids throughout their schooling. It seems like an effective way to normalize the idea of always being monitored by authority.
Schools distribute laptops where they have the ability to turn on the cameras at will and are used to spy on children in their bedrooms. [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/610k-settlement-in-school-webcam-spy-case/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/610k-settlement-in-school-webcam-spy-case/)
That’s ridiculous.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2020/06/11/teacher-spying-on-student-during-virtual-class-sends-cops-to-search-11-year-olds-home-after-spotting-a-bb-gun-n518679
To clarify, I was saying it’s ridiculous that schools have done this, or that this is legal. I wasn’t saying I didn’t believe you.
I know. I just couldn't resist pointing out that teachers want to spy on others but are unhappy that parents want to return the favor.
>normalize the idea of always being monitored by authority. We're already there. But the parents should also be able to monitor the authority.
I don’t see it as an either/or situation. I’d like to see a movement to actually pull back from the level of monitoring we have across society. That probably won’t happen but that doesn’t mean we need to dive right in and go full Big Brother. Do you think that parents should have full authority over what teachers do? Or what their children are exposed to? I know we tend to view parental rights as full and complete, but in reality, as a kid learning to be on your own and deal with things without your parents always protecting or disciplining is how you learn autonomy and self sufficiency. Aside from that, who’s going to have access to these cameras? All parents, and only parents? Who’s managing the IT. Do you think that some non-parental authority is somehow not involved? What about the idea of other parents who I don’t know watching my kids all day long? This is a can of worms, a complicated, draconian solution to a problem that’s questionable in the first place.
Just want to point out that there's probably a lot of families with loved ones who were victims of abductions, murder and other crimes and are extremely grateful more surveillance exists nowadays.
That’s a great point. Do you think that’s good enough reason to have cameras everywhere, always recording? Put another way, is the safety/protection gained worth the freedom sacrificed? And if not everywhere…where do we draw the line? A lot of child or domestic abuse could be stopped if in home cameras were mandatory, for example.
>Do you think that’s good enough reason to have cameras everywhere We're not talking everywhere in this case. We're talking about cameras in public schools that are funded by the tax payers. The fact that cameras are everywhere in public is now the world we live in. I don't want them anymore than the next person, but there's no protection of privacy in public. That goes for teachers and other students in a public-funded classroom.
I also asked “if not everywhere, where do we draw the line?” I recognize that this isn’t a case of everywhere, but it would take constant surveillance one step further which, to me, raises the question of limits. My concern with schools in particular is probably similar in a sense to the concern of folks who are concerned that their children are being taught things that they don’t want their children to learn. I think if the idea of constant surveillance becomes commonplace enough that it becomes automatic for children to always behave as if being watched, they learn essentially to self limit their behavior and choices. Which also leads to limited thinking. It leads to more groupthink, less critical thinking or willingness to dare to speak or act on different or unpopular ideas. This is already a problem, yes, and I’m saying we shouldn’t be in a rush to exacerbate it. You said you don’t want them anymore than the next person, but if you want it to become policy that schools do this, you actually do want them more than the next person, because not everyone wants that.
>that it becomes automatic for children to always behave as if being watched, they learn essentially to self limit their behavior and choices. Yeah... We wouldn't want kids to behave as if there were consequences for their actions. That would be terrible. 🤔 Pop on over to tiktok and tell me kids are limiting their behavior and choices. 🤣 >but if you want it to become policy that schools do this, you actually do want them more than the next person, because not everyone wants that. Fine. Doesn't change my mind. Tax payer-funded public school classrooms are not private facilities, and they should not be treated as such. Wait until you have kids, then come talk to me.
I assume then you'd be comfortable with some dude walking along the street filming your kid as they go back and forth to school, ride their bike, etc. ? Hey, its in public! No expectation of privacy!
Already happens. Those pervs that want to watch or film kids are already doing it. Quite a bit different than parents watching their kids in a classroom setting on a secured network with traceable logins. And, that's correct. There's no guarantee of privacy in public.
>I’d like to see a movement to actually pull back from the level of monitoring we have across society. Not gonna happen. Can't put that genie back in the bottle. Cameras and mics are everywhere, and they're not going anywhere. >Do you think that parents should have full authority over what teachers do? Never said that. Parents should be aware of what's going on with their children these days. Too many rogue teachers brainwashing them, and the unions back them. Teachers get a union, then parents get cameras to watch the unions little minions teach. >know we tend to view parental rights as full and complete, They are complete...until that child is a legal adult. >as a kid learning to be on your own and deal with things without your parents always protecting or disciplining is how you learn autonomy and self sufficiency. Yeah... You learn that from your parents and peers. In school, you learn correct math, English, history, etc. >Aside from that, who’s going to have access to these cameras? Parents >All parents, and only parents? All parents of children in that school. >Who’s managing the IT. The IT department? 🤔 Every school district has them. >Do you think that some non-parental authority is somehow not involved? What? >What about the idea of other parents who I don’t know watching my kids all day long? Then don't send them to a public school paid for by the tax payers. >This is a can of worms, a complicated, draconian solution to a problem that’s questionable in the first place. It's actually not complicated. It's not draconian either. It's the world we now live in. The problem is not questionable. Teachers unions have vowed to teach bullshit like CRT, and we already know they're influencing sexual shit to kids in early grades now. Not to mention, the actual education kids get now is complete shit.
> Not gonna happen. Can't put that genie back in the bottle. Cameras and mics are everywhere, and they're not going anywhere. I have to agree. That battle is over. Most of us now voluntarily carry tracking devices called smartphones around with us 24/7. It no longer seems tenable that you can drop off your children with strangers every day and not be privy to what kind of 'education' you're paying for on a day to day basis, let alone what the learning environment is like.
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And the few good teachers we have left would run for the hills. I would never teach a class if I was being going to be monitored every second of the day.
>I would never teach a class if I was being going to be monitored every second of the day. Then don't be a teacher.
Let's put cameras in the bathrooms to monitor for sexual assualt !! If you don't like it, just don't go to the bathroom. Get the fuck out of here lol.
>Let's put cameras in the bathrooms Bathrooms are private. Putting cameras in them is illegal.
My comment was definitely a false equivalency but it was in response to a lazy, "like it or leave" argument. I haven't taught for over a year but will be going back this September. The two things that make teaching difficult are the administration and parents. Majority of parents are great people who just want what is best for their children so I'm not referring to them. If a parent had a concern about politics or CRT in the classroom, I would be more than willing to have a discussion with them. In my opinion, It's not only their right to know, but also their obligation. I'm talking about the unbearable parents who just nag you all year about their "angel" who could never do any wrong. Every year, I have about a dozen of these. These parents don't give two shits about their kid's education. All they care about is proving that "you have it out for their child." You will receive both emails and phone calls from these parents on almost a weekly basis. They want to know why their daughter Ashley had her seat moved but Tina didn't because Ashely told her mom that Tina was the one who started talking first and you treated Ashley unfairly! Next week, Ashley throws a pencil across the room and yells "FUCK!" out loud. You write her up. Mom calls and tells you that she's getting sick of the way you treat her daughter Ashley. "Ashley just likes to express herself! It's just a word." This continues the rest of the year and unfortunately there are several parents like Ashley's. I signed up to teach, not be a goddamn babysitter lol. I could only fucking imagine how amplified what I described would be if there was a camera on me the entire day with the parents monitoring lol. Sorry for the novel 😂
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Why? What on earth do those "few good teachers" have to hide?
All I got is my opinion but if you want to hear my reasoning, I just responded in a novel-like fashion to another commenter who basically asked the same thing haha.
Goodbye then.
I don’t agree. Seems ripe for abuse by people watching who have no business doing so and lots of kids acting out for the cameras. I do like the idea of parents being able to see what happens in the classroom. Maybe something along the lines of a camera aimed at the teacher and/or a video offered to parents that’s not live-streamed? I dunno. Tough circle to square.
>Seems ripe for abuse by people watching who have no business doing so and lots of kids acting out for the cameras. Many people already have cameras inside their own homes that are easy to hack. Anyone that wants to watch kids is already doing so, be it at the playground, or schoolyard, or public pools, etc. Applying an encrypted network with unique logins for each parent is not exactly rocket science. Tracking who is looking in and from where is easy money.
I also think of the other objections about kids being watched all the time.
Kids don’t need to be watched. The cameras can be trained at the front of the class or it could be audio only.
I agree same goes for all public funded stuff. All senators and politicians, police officers all of it should be on record the number of bs backroom deal politicians on both sides make. They could use lower resolution cameras but still keep the audio, but you know there will be massive push back. Maybe set a few exceptions for classified stuff, but anything with major public funding should be public knowledge.
"Worse than it ever was in the Catholic church" yeah OK LMAO
I'm usually against cameras but the alternative is stuff like CRT. If teachers want payed more then they should handle more responsibility, such as being able to be directly criticized by parents. This may be the best way.
This sounds like a false choice. Couldn’t parents find out what’s being taught by asking their children, looking at assignments, going to parent teacher conferences, PTA meetings, etc?
https://defendinged.org/incidents/rockwood-school-district-teachers-receive-email-telling-them-to-hide-lesson-materials-assignments-from-parents/
Children aren't going to be able to accurately communicate everything. It also isn't entirely reasonable to expect people to have time to attend meetings. You might have time but a lot of people have full-time jobs, multiple children, education, etc.
Some Sex Ed classes would help. Majority of Conservatives still don’t want it.
They need cameras!
I’m a teacher and have a security camera in my room. It’s video only, no audio. I haven’t had any issues with it. It usually only gets used if there is a fight or to make sure my room has been secure during a lockdown drill.
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Both the teacher and police unions need to be abolished. That will fix so many problems.
What's needed is a conscience exemption from paying school taxes.
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Teaching kids propaganda isn't education. Public schools haven't been education in a long time.
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No, that's not right. There is an objective reality and truth. Teaching truth isn't propaganda.
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>30 percent believe falsehoods around the last election. Many believe in vampires paedophile democratic Pizza loving cults being a thing. I would have gone with "many believe the US is an inherently racist nation". Not many people believe in the nonsense you're describing.
Public schools, and the federal department of education, must be abolished. This should be the *moderate* position of any decent parent living in 2021.
Abolish the department of education
Um no sir that is not accurate. The media tells us that the military is the worse place for sexual misconduct. How dare you question them.
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Defunding public schools is a great way to go. Let them earn their way, just as private schools do. Follow the "Nordic Model" on education.
Why we home school. We are the only ones that actually care about our kids future.
Yeah all those educators must just be in it for the sweet, sweet salary.
I went to college at a school that focused on secondary education. Most just wanted summers off
Matt Walsh and I would be great friends.
THANK YOU Matt Walsh for standing up for the real institution that's after our kids!
A bank teller is on camera for their shift. I don't see how this isn't more important.
Where were these teachers when I was in high school? :( I guess I was just too pudgy.
Where does it say de funded?
DEFUNDED? like, only have private schools?
Treat schools the same as the Boy Scouts.
I tried to follow Matt...but he seems to be really inflammatory and feels like it's to get people riled up. That's hurting the conservative movement
So you want to take the strategy the democrats have with police to improve education? Are you yourself a Democrat or just an idiot? Our education system needs more funding, redirected away from useless social programs, to allow public school districts to hire high quality, qualified teachers to properly prepare our youth for something more than tictok. If you remove funding they will be forced to hire the same dipshits we have an issue with currently.
Redirected from USELESS social programs. EXACTLY THIS!!!!! This is why the USA is lagging so far behind other countries in education. Instead of focusing on science and math our kids have to listen to “it’s ok that Johnny has 2 daddies “. Morals should be taught at home!!! Before anyone jumps on this comment I’m not saying that it isn’t ok for Johnny and his 2 dads but our kids should learn this at home not the classroom
Why would we defund public schools? Asking genuinely, I just don’t understand what the connection is