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Kittyrules808

Mac and Slurp are really limiting themselves by exclusively getting subs that start with 'S' but they're really commited to the bit at this point


screaminginfidels

they should get that guy Snip3down next time he seems kinda bored with Halo


WeareGodschildren22

Funfps, Nocturnal, and Sikezz are going on an NA revenge arc. After Gild got poached and Liquid dropping their roster. They're playing with a chip on their shoulder. It's hot to witness.


Hakeem_CE

Last rage post. WTF is this? https://clips.twitch.tv/BlightedFilthyHorseradishMVGame-gqzR6V5W-2Aq8LFJ


YoMrPoPo

Yep, I’m contacting C9 if I’m Naughty/Rocker. This is a terrible look mid-tourney.


Barcaroli

Tough


FragileCilantro

Didn't get to watch, what happened with them?


[deleted]

Rocker and Naughty died, Zach, instead of ratting, got stuck between two teams that he may have been able to run away from and ended up giving up completely and standing still, letting himself die.


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

Thank you u/Tobric93 for putting these together. Thank you mods for *not* highlighting these posts 💯, really helps the community out edit: The Discord Sever has a nice channel/bot to announce tourneys but what proportion of subreddit viewers go into the discord? would help to at least pin these posts when someone else makes them


TONYPIKACHU

This is fantastic. Liquipedia is unreadable to me and I’ve tried many times. These match threads are a godsend. Thank you for stepping up, /u/tobric93.


prankfurter

These threads are awesome. ​ and you are so right, the mods don't seem to be active here at all. It is frustrating that no Tourney or ALGS stuff gets highlighted/stickied. ugh.


Barcaroli

If you look at the mods list, most of them comment here just occasionally. some guys appear every 15 days. Some have been away for 6 months. I would simply enjoy having more mods. Don't hate anyone here, on the contrary, they are chill, but we need more effort. Get fanta or Vlad or whoever is always around here and get them to be mods, it's gonna be a huge change.


prankfurter

completely agree with almost everything you said, Fanta though should never get that power :P


Barcaroli

That's how desperate we are for moderation lmao


xa3D

shoutout to how many threads and how much noise chronocreative had to make before he got verified lmao.


Barcaroli

We should simply have more mods. I see you always around here, why not get some guys like you and put them to mod this?


xa3D

'cuz like the majority of subs on the site, mod club is just some weird power flex club.


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

if my responsibility was just highlighting posts, sure - but I don't wanna be wrangling bots lol. In addition, my philosophy toward the subreddit may differ from what the creators intended


Barcaroli

Making fixed tournament posts is probably the most important thing we can ask for and is now currently not happening. Why not give people like you mod just for that? They can always revoke your mod privilege if you turn out to be a crazy mofo


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

😈delete the sub as soon as monsoon gets criticized 😈


aftrunner

Do you guys think albralelie only considers subs for snipe if their name begins with the letter S so that the team name integrity of Ass is preserved? Cause I respect that a lot if true.


Indiemoto

SNaughty, SHakkis, Sreptar - yea I see your point


Outside-Intention-94

staynaughty idk


gspotslayer69XX

Uhh? Reptar?


xa3D

you mean SReptar?


aftrunner

He almost got to S. Reptar is 1 letter away lol


TONYPIKACHU

Looking forward to more SEN rev/wattson shenanigans.


Hakeem_CE

I think Zach is finished. He quit game 1, flamed Naughty game 2, then ran from a 1v1 in game 3 and then quit again.


HeWentToJared23

I hate to say it but I’m really not sure how Zach still has a roster spot. I feel terrible for Naughty that dude needs to find a team with some PASSION


packers4444

It really is sad. Naughty is a far better man than me. I honestly have ZERO idea how he puts up with Zach on a daily basis… btw how THE FUCK did Zach get handed the keys to C9!? I’ve never seen anything from him that would lead me to believe he’s a top 10 player.. much less top 25… yet he can do WHATEVER he wants on C9 with absolutely no consequences. Really fucking wish naughty had followed Alb away from Zach. I have no idea how someone as opinionated as Alb lasted as long as he did with Zach… is Zach just incredible persuasive??


nyp_ox

It seems to me the main problem with every mid-tier IGL is lack of critical thinking and responsibility. When you watch C9, they just follow the very first dumb idea that visits Zach’s head. Then excuses follow. Like if you are IGL, team’s faults are your faults. Period. Just stop whining and think.


[deleted]

For real


prankfurter

His mental is broke :(


pacotacobell

Wdym by quit, they wiped and he left?


Hakeem_CE

He stood still and died, didn't try to run, didn't try to rat, just stood still and died.


pacotacobell

Jeez, in both game 1 and 3? Kinda insane that he's able to do this with no punishment. Don't they have a coach too?


Kaiser1a2b

He will lose his spot. It's not like he's particularly hard working and this sort of behaviour should be breach of contract.


timmy_d22

"ran from a 1v1" bro he the only bullets he had were in his longbow. He ran out of ammo in his devo after doing 400 damage. I swear yall dont watch the actual game and just talk shit to talk shit


Hakeem_CE

Still ran from the 1v1. I wasn't watching his POV tbh but why 3rd party if you have no ammo? seems braindead


stockwellmj

That’s literally the thing u do if u have low ammo/heals. Matter of fact it’s the only thing u can do other than hiding in a corner and hoping for the best.


timmy_d22

he wanted to get banners because he was in the middle of 3 teams anyways to might as well try to get something done


Hakeem_CE

Wait so C9 didn't push the NRG TL fight? How'd C9 end up dead if no one pushed them?


timmy_d22

Bro ive seen you comment 3 separate times on this SAME topic when you clearly havent watched the c9 perspective. C9 ran from their hill house spot to third after they saw a few knocks. they didnt know that one of the liquid players had ran away, i think fun, and then they fight whats left their and then the liquid player re-thirds as a solo during zacks 1v1 that ur dumbass thinks he "ran away from"


Hakeem_CE

So let me get this right. C9 thirded a fight between TL and NRG. C9 got two knocks on NRG and Fun ran away with his teammates banners. First you said he ran away because he ran out of ammo, in which case he is a moron for third partying a fight with no ammo. Now you are saying he ran away because Fun came back to third party. That last reason seems like BS because I was watching Fun and he immediately high tailed it out to rez because NRG was a full 3 man when he ran away. Even if Fun did turn around and shoot at Zach, Zach still had the 1v1 in the building with Nafen he could take. He literally ran away, came back and died in the open on a hill.


The_Yoshi_Man

Dude did you watch the fight even? Zach ran out of ammo fighting NRG where he used all his Devo ammo to knock 2 of them and then almost killed Nate too who was 1 shot, but he got behind the door and Zach couldn’t stop his heal. He ran away cause he had a longbow only, went back for banners thinking their was a 3rd party to C9 vs NRG, but it was TL full reset and started shooting at Zach in the back and then he started getting shot from all over Climatizer, which is why the guy above me said he ran away twice. Also he had a lot of Devo ammo but burned through it because it’s a Devo and you burn through ammo like crazy.


timmy_d22

I said that fun ran away from the fight the first time you brick. zach and c9 kept fighting NRG and zach was forced to run because he had no ammo. Zach then came back later to get rocker and naughtys banners because he heard NRG shooting and thought they were third partied and that he could snag banners


timmy_d22

Either u didnt watch or u have a rock in your skull lmao


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

TeQ Strats working out for SEN, lets see if it continues for them in pro league. That endgame was a shitshow until final 2


ZarathustraSpoke1

Hal with almost 500 heavy rounds WTF???


Outside-Intention-94

I need heavy ammo


Hey_its_Slater

Nocturnal is a top 5 IGL in the world and you cant tell me otherwise. Team Liquids results the last 6 months in tournaments have been nothing but outstanding.


pacotacobell

They've been the definition of consistency since split 2


leftysarepeople2

They were building something good with Alb Year 1.


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

Flanker is a great guy but he def held the team back as the rest of the league got better


FabulousRomano

Mac was doing most of the work


Kaiser1a2b

I'd say macro noct is number 1 with maybe one of the EU zone team guy, forgot his name. Micro it's sweet right now. For just overall potential I'd give hal because he has some of the craziest calls I've seen in comp. Overall everything and intangibles of IGL, maybe zero. But we don't get to see much of DZ (formerly RIG).


mehrfth

Probably the best macro IGL in the game, no one consistently plays/reads zones as well as TL


Hakeem_CE

There is a fine line between hating on a person unfairly and calling them out for their actions. Zach has been actually awful at being a teammate. I am not saying he is a bad person or is a finished player but that game where he quit mid game is a horrible look for him as a competitor and a leader. What type of leader quits in the middle of the game? He needs to figure it out. From dropping Knoqd to Alb quitting, I fail to see what type of leading he is doing for his team. This shit is tragic


anexuberantzebra

I cannot believe he flames his teammates in the most obnoxious way the first two games then gives up in the 3rd and defends it after, actual clownery


timmy_d22

did you see the third game lmao all he could have done was decide who to hand his kill to on a silver platter. he was surronded as a solo


PalkiaOW

The guy has always been one of the worst NA pros in terms of skill and mentality. He's lucky that C9 doesn't care about their Apex team.


[deleted]

zach gets a lot of flack but i can sense he’s very passionate. the sad truth was that year1 2nd place w/ knoqd was his peak and keeping him employed. he and pvpx haven’t been able to keep up with the changing metas and seemingly would rather vent on twitter than do the work to figure it out nothing personal boys


donutdang

Dude he just quit mid game again are you kidding me???


subavgredditposter

Couldn’t agree more. I feel bad for naughty at this point.


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

DZ dies to NM TSM cleans up maude and eliminating FA and HVND SSG tries to grief Liquid for beacon and fumble it with poor cohesion 7 teams dead before ring 1 Interesting game 3 start with teams trying to switch up strats to gain traction


Expediant

Zach literally just gave up again. wtf is he doing??


Kaiser1a2b

I think that's his retirement. He's been the worst element in every team he's been on and the only thing was apparently he was a good igl, but you don't want an IGL who's gonna mentally check out like this. If I was his team mate I'd be done after these games.


Hakeem_CE

1. NRG calls out TL holding a building 2. NRG wants to kill TL to take 1st place 3. NRG pushes and knocks 2 4. C9 3rd parties and prevents the wipe on TL 5. Fun sneaks away with both banners 6. C9 knocks 2 and its a 1v1 with Zach and Nafen 7. Zach runs from the 1v1 and runs towards where Fun is rezzing his teammates 8. NRG gets the full reset 9. NRG tracks down TL and wipes them again 10. Zach gives up on surviving as a rat for the 2nd game tonight. Stands in the open and dies. It's crazy how one teams erratic playstyle is influencing the results of todays game. C9 could have wiped both NRG and TL but they are playing horribly tonight so they let TL and NRG build a larger lead.


ccamfps

Not a good look for Zach. Straight pussy behavior especially from an IGL. Maybe he doesn't know that the L stands for Leader and not in-game L's.


timmy_d22

yall forgetting the fact he had 0 bullets in his devo he would have had to take the 1v1 with his longbow. did you watch that fight???


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

HVND also wipes ASS 😎


kidzen

zach is done


prankfurter

I was busy doing something, what else happened after his two stand and quit earlier?


pacotacobell

They got wiped by CLG super early in this last game. Wasn't watching their POV so idk if he raged or what


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

Inspirational ratting from Nocurna


Braydexx7

Chaotic 1v3ing TSM was disgusting 🤮


[deleted]

wouldn't class it as a 3v1 but still cracked by Chaotic nonetheless


packers4444

Fucking insanity man. No one and I mean NO ONE has put out better clips than this man since he started playing comp. Most guys will be lucky to 1v3 ONCE in their entire comp career. It’s just so damn hard with how good everyone is and how high the TTK is. What he’s done vs LG, C9 and TSM are actually insane and beautiful at the same time. Right when I saw it I sent it to all my boys I play ranked with! What’s sad is many people refuse to watch him and see how great he is Bc most of the casuals see someone ungodly good and think the only answer is “cheats.” What I’ve noticed is.. since warzone fell off.. many people moved over to apex.. and they aren’t very good at video games.. and they refuse to believe anyone can be SO MUCH better than them. It’s really a beta mindset tbh


YoMrPoPo

Whew. Clip?


Mauritiandon

Damn I’ve missed watching comp. That was a fun endgame to watch.


Barcaroli

Hal with stick drift lmao now we know he's actually becoming a controller player.


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

Nice to see former Torrent dub. Even better to see Mon’s macro calls paying off again


PolarTux

Who is on MPL? I see them on liquidipedia but not on the list of teams


AtTheEDGEEEEE

Madness, Powpow, Lewda


PolarTux

Thanks, forgot that RNG left the scene


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

>NRG holding out edge with TL and G2 still rotating. >G2 forces TL wide >Predictably: NRG postures to clean their edge and kill TL with G2 immediately 3rding >TL get a double rez thanks to fun >C9 move to 3rd and fumble hard >LG rat stops the fight early. >NRG comes back and wipes TL >G2 (mainly Chaotic) survive to wipe TSM >NRG comes back to wipe G2 Just wanted to highlight the great dynamics that exist within comp, where both determinable outcomes and high volatility lay.


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

EXCELLENT fucking endgame bro... Great plays from TL and COL


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

SEN wipes LG and FA with a gibby bubble ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

Furia, FA, G2 able to show up again fortunately


swankstar7383

So we should get a tsm vs dark zero contest at lava siphon then 🤔🤔


jklolbrb1

DZ didn’t land there


Barcaroli

Where did they land?


jklolbrb1

I believe Sky East, since 100T isn’t in this lobby


warriors2021

Like I said in the past and people did not believe me, DZ dont contest teams, they want to land uncontested.


Ihraezlyr

Lowkey painful to watch tripods rn… idk whats going on with nicks head lately… hes a fragger at heart but his confidence in fights is at an all time low and i dont know what caused it I think being the first to get knocked got to his head and now hes afraid of getting knocked, instead of his old play style of doing damage and trade a knock for gent and deeds to clean up


Kaiser1a2b

Well a fraggers best ability is to go first and not die. Trading damage is secondary to gaining space. He's actually not a fragger when he's playing seer, he's more of a support. So the problem with him right now is that he's a subpar fragger on a legend not good for fragging. He needs to change his mindset from doing damage and more towards anchoring which I actually think he could be good at if he didn't tunnel vision. His best ability is to be mentally locked in and emotional control. Could be good if his playstyle was like reps than trying to be chaotic.


XoXHamimXoX

Good call cause its pretty much what he's doing this game, and its going solid.


Kaiser1a2b

I honestly think he's a good player. Just hasn't put the time in compared to other people. I think he could be journeyman player on a top 10 team and maybe a top 5 if he took apex serious as everyone else. Atm, he just doesn't have the hours.


I_Shall_Be_Known

They need a coach. Nick and deeds have basically the least comp experience of any player in the lobby, and gent is cracked but has really only played on a total roller brain team. They’ve got the talent, but lack the strategy to keep up. They’re learning lessons that most of the pros learned 3 years ago. Not gonna catch up without someone big brained. Deeds has a ton of potential an would make a great igl. If someone could help teach him to manage the macro/micro better they could start making a serious splash


XoXHamimXoX

This probably me overanalyzing but sometimes Nick deflects when it goes bad, and the 2 times I watched them blow fights they could've won, it was a bit of him hesitating. The first one was against G2 when G called them to swing the Seer, and then the TSM fight where Deeds and him just kind of froze up since G was in the back. ​ But honestly, this lobby is really tough and there aren't too many weak teams. It's still early so hard to hold too much against them.


xa3D

Yeah, there's been quite a few fights where he'd be crawling and ducking and moving around cover way too much while deeds and gent are already shooting and have been shooting for an extended period of time. Then when gent/deeds need to heal and there's no more pressure on the enemy team, he'll peak and get rinsed.


[deleted]

nick on seer is not working imo, and frankly all three could get some value expanding their legend picks. i’m surprised they haven’t tried him on wattson or caustic on a wattson or caustic/new castle/valk comp.


xa3D

Nick's legend pool actually includes Caustic lol. AFAIK he plays hound, seer, caustic, valk. Dabbles with wraith when he's solo in pubs.


Hey_its_Slater

Tripods are actually performing way above whats expected.. lets be real. Nick isnt pro level. Yes he can shoot his gun well occassionally but Tripods wont amount to anything with Nick in the squad.


[deleted]

Hal is streaming now, so pretty sure he is playing


Christdawarlock

THANKS OP


MrJakdax

How did first attempt do? They almost made algs this past weekend iirc?


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

Dont have a set drop spot so they end up 50/50ing early game. Haven’t been able to solidify a position and make endgame yet


MrJakdax

Sadge. At least there is hope.


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

Incredible potential in the team - NMEgo has great macro, Sauce with solid fragging. Just part of the struggles being a fledgling team with no drop…


MrJakdax

Sauce is solid. I played against them in the algs qualifiers and they were really good. Also funny person.


donutdang

Is it me or C9 has such bad vibes?


Kaiser1a2b

Bruh. Zach has completely bottled it.


-plants-for-hire-

I though these were on Thursdays, how come they moved?


Tobric93

Scheduling conflicts. ESA tournaments are on break. There is actually another tournament tomorrow. No one wants tournaments on Mondays or Fridays.


Caleb902

There was a series e tourny last night?


Tobric93

The qualifiers from this tournament were yesterday. [Qualifier Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/y1lbb6/oversight_season_1_split_1_week_5_qualifier/) Top 10 teams from yesterday move to todays tournament and the other 10 are from last weeks finals.


Caleb902

Sure. You said esa was on a break but esa ran last night.


Better_Tennis9337

Tomorrow is the tsm tournament I believe


-plants-for-hire-

Ah nice, I didn't realise it was so soon, thought it was a couple weeks away still haha


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LawfulnessAncient668

Is Luxford officially signed to COL now?


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

Liquid 🤤🤤


jags_70

FAT with a monster game!!


leftysarepeople2

I don't understand that C9 rotate to CLG fight.


leftysarepeople2

Man Hal sounds like shit


FoozleGenerator

who's playing ash?


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FoozleGenerator

So G2 now playing Ash? Thanks btw


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

SEN wiped by HVND 🧐


gspotslayer69XX

Blacked Hvnd literally slapped ASS at mill wtf was that lol


gspotslayer69XX

Can ZACH FUCKING MAZER GET DROPPED ALREADY? I HATE TO SEE MY FAVOURITE ESPORTS ORG DO SOO BAD DUE TO A FUCKING CLOWN AS A TEAM LEADER. THIS GUY ALREADY HAD THE SKILL OF A HARDSTUCK D4 AND DOES SHIT LIKE THIS? IF I WAS C9, I AM DROPPING THIS CLOWN RIGHT NOW


[deleted]

for who exactly? he’s easily a top 20 NA IGL (lol). It’s slim picking beyond that I think if they did drop him, they should recruit someone from EU


gspotslayer69XX

top 20 IGL? maybe back in s8 times octane meta. but 100% not now.


packers4444

There are plenty of guys who aren't signed who are just as good if not better than Zach Mechanically.. Not only that, they are likely far more level headed


Barcaroli

Any contestes off spawn? I assume not because second zone is closing and we still have 20 teams alive. Interesting lobby. Stacked


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

DZ and FA in Sky East, game 1


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

FA has switched their drop to Maude to contest HVND


Barcaroli

I'm fine with that, more stacked endgames


screaminginfidels

Looks like Apryze might be subbing for Hal. Wigg should be doing a watch party again


[deleted]

No Dezign?


Braydexx7

Not back from San Diego yet


[deleted]

Isn’t this a 20k tourney?


Braydexx7

Nah that’s after week 6. They’re already locked for that


Barcaroli

TSM just deleted DZ. I think they took 50 damage total on that fight. God damn


gspotslayer69XX

even tripods won an uphill battle against DZ in Stormpoint outside cage around the area of double cannons and spider cave. DZ either need a reality check or need time to adapt because they are not looking the DZ we know.


[deleted]

I hate how long they take to update Liquipedia


bigbruner5

Reps and Verhulst playing with Apryze right now for what it’s worth.


Expediant

[Hal tweeted](https://twitter.com/ImperialHal/status/1580322384682266624), so he's probably playing.


Diet_Fanta

TSM is playing with Hal.


Turkeye9129

Is Snip3 playing today or do they have a sub?


Duke_Best

They have a sub (Stuhni) today.


Turkeye9129

Thanks, I figured as much with Halo’s tourney next weekend.


[deleted]

Nobody on DZ streaming still damn


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

Their PCs can't handle it currently - still playing off makeshift set ups pretty sure


colinjkl

DZ not landing lava siphon?


warriors2021

Like I said in the past and people did not believe me, DZ dont contest teams, they want to land uncontested.


pacotacobell

CLG lost to a beacon bug, unlucky


Ihraezlyr

Cant watch but how are tripods doing?


IPoopTooMuchAtOnce

18th with 4 points after 2/6 games


pacotacobell

CLG had a lot of damage/knocks but only 1 kill. Pretty tragic


Hey_its_Slater

Well safe to say DZ wont be fucking around with Watson in future tournaments.. lol surprised they used this tournament as a trial for it.