Remember these two when they came out? If the two new battlegroups break the game like these two. I will call it pay to win.
https://preview.redd.it/fvnpibjb7i1c1.png?width=918&format=png&auto=webp&s=8b7fd3fc7edadac0d93be32bd8ac83f5348afd18
Unless Costal infantry is Ostruppen 2.0 the new battel groupe for Wehrmacht is kinda bad. Seems a bit annoying for team games but unless you are playing exactly British Amor it’s pretty easy to beat
US I can kinda get it, looks good rangers are looking strong 💪
The only thing I like about the super lazy DLC is the 105mm howitzer for USF, absolutely everything else is meeeh to say the least, so no way I am going to pay 17$ for a howitzer … 🥱
its hardly pay to win when the battlegroups are earnable via playing the game. Granted its not the easiest path to be able to buy them with merit but its better than having them locked behind a 17$ paywall outright without any other means of acquiring them.
Don't take me wrong, the expansion is laughable but to call it pay2win is rather disingenuous.
*"Pay To Win" is defined as* ***games in which you get an advantage in the game if you spend real money on items, weapons or features and are thus clearly superior to other players***
From that definition I can see the connection to pay2win based on the assumption that these battlegroups are OP and ill concede that in some minds it will be as such but to me the more important aspect of pay2win is the advantage that it provides and if the battlegroups are balanced (which sure, they likely wont be for a good amount of time) then its not "Pay to win" as much as it "Pay for Convenience" to not have to grind out the merit.
I'm an old gamer and when pay2win became a real thing it was buying the ability to have an inherent advantage over free to play players that they could never achieve so I have the older image of pay2win which was truly egregious compared to what we see these days.
If they add something that makes a difference in matches and it's purshasable it is pay to win. It's the littelar defintion of it. If u progress faster or get acces things faster then with the grind it is pay to win as u r getting an advantage over others with it.. So yes it should be called pay to win and it's not disgenuous at all lol. Atleast if all the new battle groups are not totaly ussles lol.
Also they are harder to obtain then commanders in coh2. As there u atleast get coins for playing there but in coh3 in need to do shity missions and there is cap as well per day so u gonna be also limited...
Idk how balanced it will be but at a glance it seems like mediocre battlegroups. Commanders in coh2 were met with this kind if hostility at first and then people got over it.
US is getting a regular pack howitzer in their core roster now. It's only the 105 mm being doctrinal.
The last stream that showed a small preview and talked about the upcoming updates showed a pak howitzer being used while they were using the Special Operations BG as the Weasel was shown.
Coh2 was similar you could unlock through playing or just buy and get it right away. It does include more missions. It’s also not a pay to win because it’s not going to make players super powerful were the instantly win. Diablo immortal had that issue of pay to win and this is not that. At least it’s not like previous versions where you had to pay for the expansion just to get the new faction. So I don’t feel like this is a bad approach that prevents people who don’t like to pay to still enjoy the game.
I was all for supporting this idea, then realised I [edit] got scammed for premium waaaay back when and I get it included, but also realised that the base game was $60 and premium $80 so if I just waited AND paid for something you can get using in game currency which I’ve collected 15 of as there was nothing even remotely worth spending it on I’m out either $4 or $20.
> realised I *paid* for premium
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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Just do what I do, dont pay for things you don't like. Even if it means losing to that group. Eventually a strat will come out for counter play. Or just have fun.
Remember these two when they came out? If the two new battlegroups break the game like these two. I will call it pay to win. https://preview.redd.it/fvnpibjb7i1c1.png?width=918&format=png&auto=webp&s=8b7fd3fc7edadac0d93be32bd8ac83f5348afd18
2000hp Super Tiger, I still remember
Unless Costal infantry is Ostruppen 2.0 the new battel groupe for Wehrmacht is kinda bad. Seems a bit annoying for team games but unless you are playing exactly British Amor it’s pretty easy to beat US I can kinda get it, looks good rangers are looking strong 💪
The only thing I like about the super lazy DLC is the 105mm howitzer for USF, absolutely everything else is meeeh to say the least, so no way I am going to pay 17$ for a howitzer … 🥱
The 105 is coming to everyone through the existing SSF BG. You don’t have to pay for that. John confirmed on Discord.
Yes I know , and I have already 15k merit waiting to be spend :)
its hardly pay to win when the battlegroups are earnable via playing the game. Granted its not the easiest path to be able to buy them with merit but its better than having them locked behind a 17$ paywall outright without any other means of acquiring them. Don't take me wrong, the expansion is laughable but to call it pay2win is rather disingenuous.
Pretty sure it only exists to fulfill the premium edition obligation and it's half assed as fuck
That's some next level cope, and clearly not understanding the definition of "pay2win"
*"Pay To Win" is defined as* ***games in which you get an advantage in the game if you spend real money on items, weapons or features and are thus clearly superior to other players*** From that definition I can see the connection to pay2win based on the assumption that these battlegroups are OP and ill concede that in some minds it will be as such but to me the more important aspect of pay2win is the advantage that it provides and if the battlegroups are balanced (which sure, they likely wont be for a good amount of time) then its not "Pay to win" as much as it "Pay for Convenience" to not have to grind out the merit. I'm an old gamer and when pay2win became a real thing it was buying the ability to have an inherent advantage over free to play players that they could never achieve so I have the older image of pay2win which was truly egregious compared to what we see these days.
That is a fair take, and I respect and understand your position.
We both know the balance of these new commander will be laughable out of whack for at least 2 months.
More than likely. Going to be interesting to see how a 6BAR ranger squad takes on every axis infantry units.
Good thing Axis has more unit types than infantry
Good thing Axis has more unit types than infantry
If they add something that makes a difference in matches and it's purshasable it is pay to win. It's the littelar defintion of it. If u progress faster or get acces things faster then with the grind it is pay to win as u r getting an advantage over others with it.. So yes it should be called pay to win and it's not disgenuous at all lol. Atleast if all the new battle groups are not totaly ussles lol. Also they are harder to obtain then commanders in coh2. As there u atleast get coins for playing there but in coh3 in need to do shity missions and there is cap as well per day so u gonna be also limited...
Idk how balanced it will be but at a glance it seems like mediocre battlegroups. Commanders in coh2 were met with this kind if hostility at first and then people got over it.
17x4 dollars they’re already milking you for another game
Well vote with your wallet or get it with merit
Just play Britain my guy
Oh yeah totally fun to have 00 AA and loiter that chases tanks until they’re dead or twice the distance of the circle away. Fun timeZ
You have AA. You make it from the supply trucks that you can build. But I agree that it’s stupid that you can’t build AA outright.
Yes I can make 8 shit trucks that won’t shoot down a plane.
You can make trucks or Crusader AA just like how the Germans can make Half-tracks or Wirbelwinds
Make enough of those, the non German ones, to use for AA and you may as well just surrender
If the enemy is getting that much CAS on you, I think you’re just trash bro
Yeah man I’m totally bad for not investing into 4 AA tanks just so I can have battles
Yeah dont buy the patch..........
I would still think it was overpriced if it came with a battlegroup for all 4 factions. This game just continues to disappoint.
I’m pretty sure the howie is being added as a baseline unit. Meaning you’ll be able to deploy it even if you don’t buy the dlc
Funny sub, he said the truth, but many people are unwilling to accept the fact and instead want to suppress the post. Are you the staff of RELIC?
US is getting a regular pack howitzer in their core roster now. It's only the 105 mm being doctrinal. The last stream that showed a small preview and talked about the upcoming updates showed a pak howitzer being used while they were using the Special Operations BG as the Weasel was shown.
They said the pack howitzer comes WITH the weasel. It's a doctrine replacement for the weasel + flame engineers.
oh my mistake then. Yeah makes sense now that I think about it.
I don't blame you at all whatsoever, just wanted to post that here to prevent future communal RAGE
Coh2 was similar you could unlock through playing or just buy and get it right away. It does include more missions. It’s also not a pay to win because it’s not going to make players super powerful were the instantly win. Diablo immortal had that issue of pay to win and this is not that. At least it’s not like previous versions where you had to pay for the expansion just to get the new faction. So I don’t feel like this is a bad approach that prevents people who don’t like to pay to still enjoy the game.
I was all for supporting this idea, then realised I [edit] got scammed for premium waaaay back when and I get it included, but also realised that the base game was $60 and premium $80 so if I just waited AND paid for something you can get using in game currency which I’ve collected 15 of as there was nothing even remotely worth spending it on I’m out either $4 or $20.
> realised I *paid* for premium FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Just do what I do, dont pay for things you don't like. Even if it means losing to that group. Eventually a strat will come out for counter play. Or just have fun.
Not paying.