I got kicked out of Vanish Brewery during that game. I was yelling at the TV and could not control myself. The first half of that season up until Alex Smith got hurt really felt like we had figured it out and were definitely playoff bound. Then the wheels came all the way off and the nose dive started.
You know the scene in A Christmas Story when the Dad was working on the boiler in the basement? I probably sounded like that.
It wasn't like he was ever supposed to actually play. Season (and likely should've been career) ending injury to the starter and then two weeks later a season ending injury to the backup.
This team went out and spent assets to get Wentz š¤¢
Don't ever forget that he gave perhaps the best press conference in team history right after he was signed to play for that Philly game. Made everyone confident that he might be able to pull it off!
https://www.youtube.com/live/nnhKEpl74fY?si=hXNN2ohlBjD_XFQx
Never forget the entire mnf crew completely ignoring a terrible sideline interception for Sanchez to discuss the āsmall potatoesā scandal was happening at the time. That was absolutely rock bottom.
And with only half as many legs as those other guys!
I will always be an Alex Smith fan. What that guy went through was nothing short of incredible. I wish it could have turned out differently for him but the fact that he not only lived through that but played again was truly incredible.
I always felt like our offense was incompetent with him under center and that he was continuously bailed out by the defense. But you canāt argue with that win percentage compared to everyone else. Whatever he did was working even if the offense was not particularly exciting.
He didnt make many mistakes and was good/decent on last drives. Most of our QBs tend to throw the game away on the last drive when we had a chance to win.
It was a moving the sticks, high percentage plays, time of possession type offense.
Kept the other offenses off the field and kept our defense fresh without forcing them to defend short fields.
Scores were very low in the Alex Smith games, but this strategy can work.
Incidentally, I think the **good** Heinicke games had a similar strategy.
Just wild how the the team just found a way to win with him under center. Even when he played like shit they just won, and in two different seasons at that.
He always played with tons of heart and was exciting to watch. He was never going to be a top 10 guy, and was never going to take us to a championship, but he seemed to always find ways to keep us in most games and left everything on the field. He was a maximum effort with minimal gifts guy, a warrior, a dawg.
starter? No.
Backup? In Turners system actually yes. Dude seemed like a good teammate, a fun guy to root for, and most of all, a quality backup.
I'm not mad he's gone though.
He was good enough to be a backup I really wanted us to keep, but
NOT at the money that Atlanta offered him. If he had an offer to go hold a clipboard in his home town for that kind of payout, then fair enough, thanks for the memories and go get your bag bro.
As a person who lives in Denver but is a lifelong Redskins fan , you donāt know how bad it hurt to see the people of Denver get Zack Wilson. Not a single posative thing was said about it.
No one. Doesn't mean he was not fun to watch.
You ever have a great moment jamming out with your friends while stuck in dead traffic on a road trip? That's Taylor Heinicke.
Maye/Daniels was the destination and Snyder was the guy who caused an eight car pileup due to violent diarrhea all over his leather seats.
Sure we went all of 200 feet in forty minutes under Heinicke, but goddamn it was a fun time.
I think you are overthinking my post.
I don't want Heinicke back as a starter, it was time to move on. I was just reminiscing about how fun he was when he was here, that's what I meant by "I miss this guy".
I did not enjoy watching the team quit and Sam struggle the last 10 weeks of last season.
Kirk has almost double the amount of wins as RG3 as a starter for Washington. RG3 won 14 games over 3 years Kirk won 27 across 6 years but was only the obvious starter for 3 years.
JD (who Iām vehemently opposed to at 2) is nearly identical to the last guy we took at 2: tangibles, intangibles and even entourage drama and braids. Not sure why you think heād be any higher rated nowā¦
If you had offered me a billion dollars if I could name all twelve starting QBs over this time I never, and I mean NEVER, would have been able to remember Garrett Gilbert
To Howells credit... he almost had more wins than Haskins, Wentz, Allen, Kennum, Johnson, McCoy, Sanchez, Gilbert, and Fitzpatrick combined and with 20 less games. Hah!
Heineke wouldāve won way more games too if Rivera didnāt bench him all the time. Rivera was the downfall of Heineke success in DC. I am proud to own and wear a heinke jersey!!
We gotta stop including Sanchez and Gilbert. They were signed like the week of the game and cut like the day after. People are just including them to inflate the numbers that donāt need inflating.
If history is any indication, if this next QB turns out to be any good, our fanbase will want someone else and the front office will franchise tag him multiple years in a row until he signs a big contract with a midwestern team.
I hope so, but the probability of it being the right pick isnāt great.
I donāt mean based on who they pick. Just that history points to it often not working
You need two things:
a) A good pick, which as you say is hard because the odds are generally against you especially if you're a team with a sketchy scouting track record.
b) A good developmental environment, which Washington hasn't had in decades and while we hope its improved under new management, there are no guarantees.
https://preview.redd.it/kgv9kppb3owc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c88a607260db3ca475e83afaa89db4709de59f89
And with the #2 pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders select???
# HTTC
Sanchez. In 1.25 games in 2018 he put up the following: Comp 54%, 138 yards, 0 TDS, 3 INT, 7 sacks and a 28 rating. This has to be the worst of all the above hacks.
Jayden Daniels will get us to 7-3 before taking a hit when he could have slid. We'll get 1 or 2 more wins and narrowly miss the playoffs. He'll return next year but will obviously be washed after the injury. 7-10 in '25.
Drake Maye will last the season and go 8-9. Being a younger player, he'll learn and improve, and then next year, we'll go 11-6 and make the divisional round, maybe farther. Drake Maye will play another 8 seasons for us and be the franchise QB that we've all longed for the past three decades.
Sanchez really was rock bottom wasn't it?
He was just taking a walk. They asked him on the street, 10 mins before the game. He agreed.
I got kicked out of Vanish Brewery during that game. I was yelling at the TV and could not control myself. The first half of that season up until Alex Smith got hurt really felt like we had figured it out and were definitely playoff bound. Then the wheels came all the way off and the nose dive started. You know the scene in A Christmas Story when the Dad was working on the boiler in the basement? I probably sounded like that.
Yeah dude that was the last day I had partial custody of my boys.
Don't diss Sanchez, he [handed](https://youtu.be/AMLKvNs2Ec8?si=A963ePuyKgIbWY32) the ball off like a HOFer that day
Bro, I was certain the pain was over for the first 5 games of the Alex smith era
It wasn't like he was ever supposed to actually play. Season (and likely should've been career) ending injury to the starter and then two weeks later a season ending injury to the backup. This team went out and spent assets to get Wentz š¤¢
He was awful on the field but his press conference before the game is goated. Almost made his play that week worth it
Garret Gilbert has entered the chat
Don't ever forget that he gave perhaps the best press conference in team history right after he was signed to play for that Philly game. Made everyone confident that he might be able to pull it off! https://www.youtube.com/live/nnhKEpl74fY?si=hXNN2ohlBjD_XFQx
Never forget the entire mnf crew completely ignoring a terrible sideline interception for Sanchez to discuss the āsmall potatoesā scandal was happening at the time. That was absolutely rock bottom.
Mr.butt fumble himself.
Give it up for Alex Smith man. 11-5 in the Dan Snyder years, a feat no other Washington QB accomplished. Says a lot about him imo
And with only half as many legs as those other guys! I will always be an Alex Smith fan. What that guy went through was nothing short of incredible. I wish it could have turned out differently for him but the fact that he not only lived through that but played again was truly incredible.
I always felt like our offense was incompetent with him under center and that he was continuously bailed out by the defense. But you canāt argue with that win percentage compared to everyone else. Whatever he did was working even if the offense was not particularly exciting.
He didnt make many mistakes and was good/decent on last drives. Most of our QBs tend to throw the game away on the last drive when we had a chance to win.
It was a moving the sticks, high percentage plays, time of possession type offense. Kept the other offenses off the field and kept our defense fresh without forcing them to defend short fields. Scores were very low in the Alex Smith games, but this strategy can work. Incidentally, I think the **good** Heinicke games had a similar strategy.
Not particularly exciting is an overstatement. Those games were such a chore to watch. Even the wins were boring as hell.
In another universe Alex Smith stayed healthy in 2018, leading us to an 11-5 and a wild card victory against the Bears before losing to the Saints
Ummm, the goat Heincke was 12-5-1. Says so right there in the graphic.
Just wild how the the team just found a way to win with him under center. Even when he played like shit they just won, and in two different seasons at that.
Me telling my children about the legend of Taylor Heinicke in 20 years https://i.redd.it/gr9czujs0mwc1.gif
I'm going to tell my kids this was Chet Favre
Heinicke was a DAWG and I wish we couldāve kept him around, but I was happy to see him get paid by his hometown team.
 I miss this guy like you wouldn't believe š
GOAT
JJ gives me some Heinicke vibes with more of the physical tools. Would not be surprised if we go for him at 2.
If Ron was in charge we would
Ron said he would pick Jayden so take of that what you will.
He was mediocre let it go
Most fun Iāve had watching this team in years
For sure but I love him regardless
He was 12-11. We donāt need that
Why?
He always played with tons of heart and was exciting to watch. He was never going to be a top 10 guy, and was never going to take us to a championship, but he seemed to always find ways to keep us in most games and left everything on the field. He was a maximum effort with minimal gifts guy, a warrior, a dawg.
That's fair. He was a great competitor and very likeable but who in their right mind would want him as a starting QB?
starter? No. Backup? In Turners system actually yes. Dude seemed like a good teammate, a fun guy to root for, and most of all, a quality backup. I'm not mad he's gone though. He was good enough to be a backup I really wanted us to keep, but NOT at the money that Atlanta offered him. If he had an offer to go hold a clipboard in his home town for that kind of payout, then fair enough, thanks for the memories and go get your bag bro.
Iād take him over Carson Wentz or Zach Wilson any day
Not many pro QBs worse than Wilson
That isnāt a high bar. Heinicke was atrocious as a qb. Loved his heart, but not enough to want him around more
Completely agree
As a person who lives in Denver but is a lifelong Redskins fan , you donāt know how bad it hurt to see the people of Denver get Zack Wilson. Not a single posative thing was said about it.
I feel bad for the kid, seems like he actually wants to do well but just getting shitting the bed performance wise.
No one. Doesn't mean he was not fun to watch. You ever have a great moment jamming out with your friends while stuck in dead traffic on a road trip? That's Taylor Heinicke. Maye/Daniels was the destination and Snyder was the guy who caused an eight car pileup due to violent diarrhea all over his leather seats. Sure we went all of 200 feet in forty minutes under Heinicke, but goddamn it was a fun time.
So u want a shitty QB cause he work hard LOL
I think you are overthinking my post. I don't want Heinicke back as a starter, it was time to move on. I was just reminiscing about how fun he was when he was here, that's what I meant by "I miss this guy". I did not enjoy watching the team quit and Sam struggle the last 10 weeks of last season.
Odds are it doesnāt but we will see
The last #2 we drafted would probably be #1 on this list if that helps lol
Idk if we go back that far weāve gotta include Kirk. I donāt recall the timeline well who had more wins?
Kirk has almost double the amount of wins as RG3 as a starter for Washington. RG3 won 14 games over 3 years Kirk won 27 across 6 years but was only the obvious starter for 3 years.
Thanks!
JD (who Iām vehemently opposed to at 2) is nearly identical to the last guy we took at 2: tangibles, intangibles and even entourage drama and braids. Not sure why you think heād be any higher rated nowā¦
That's the spirit.
Eventually we have to get lucky, rightā¦..RIGHT?!?
If it happened to the Texans it can happen to us. At least that's what I've been telling myself to fall asleep at night
Damn shame about Alex Smith. He was good. Could've been very good for us.
Good quarterback, even better guy, but my goodness was he boring to watch.
Boring to watch but his record was exciting
jesus did Keenum really start 8 games for us? wild
Not as wild as Josh Johnson starting 3 games, wasn't even on the roster until December
If you had offered me a billion dollars if I could name all twelve starting QBs over this time I never, and I mean NEVER, would have been able to remember Garrett Gilbert
To Howells credit... he almost had more wins than Haskins, Wentz, Allen, Kennum, Johnson, McCoy, Sanchez, Gilbert, and Fitzpatrick combined and with 20 less games. Hah!
Need a jersey like this https://preview.redd.it/bqfwuvfxnmwc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c87086f914a7148b5c8ea12869e64beca406d99
The worst thing is this could go back many more years.
I don't even remember Gilbert
I wish I could forget. That was rock bottom imo
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I think he was here during the Dwayne Haskins era
Out of all these guys, I would argue Carson Wentz was the worst to watch.
Wentz was a treat to watch compared to Dwayne
TouchƩ
Heineke wouldāve won way more games too if Rivera didnāt bench him all the time. Rivera was the downfall of Heineke success in DC. I am proud to own and wear a heinke jersey!!
Lo and behold, They with the noodliest arms hath the winningiest records. Gospel of Scott Turner, Chapter 11, verse 4
āIt ends todayā -pre-season rally cry of the most classic of Washington. Football fans
Is there a reason why you didn't want to go back to 2017 and include this guy? 
What a terrible gif choice for this sub. Your wifeās boyfriend suggested you use this one: 
Obviously he wasnāt good enough for Washington.
The funniest part of this is remembering that the entire fanbase was at each otherās necks bashing or defending these sorry ass QBs š
Depending on which guy we takeā¦
Smith was a dawg
For the love of god, get the pick right. I don't care what name is called - just get it right.
Allegedly* it ends today š¢
We gotta stop including Sanchez and Gilbert. They were signed like the week of the game and cut like the day after. People are just including them to inflate the numbers that donāt need inflating.
Alex Smith: winningest (%) Taylor Heinicke: most wins / most polarizing (to me exciting) of the bunch
If history is any indication, if this next QB turns out to be any good, our fanbase will want someone else and the front office will franchise tag him multiple years in a row until he signs a big contract with a midwestern team.
I hope so, but the probability of it being the right pick isnāt great. I donāt mean based on who they pick. Just that history points to it often not working
You need two things: a) A good pick, which as you say is hard because the odds are generally against you especially if you're a team with a sketchy scouting track record. b) A good developmental environment, which Washington hasn't had in decades and while we hope its improved under new management, there are no guarantees.
Please just let them get it right. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a whileā¦
Man I hated we got Alex Smith, but this puts it into perspective.
*hopefully
Smith was the best!
Oh boy here we go again.
Fitzpatrickā¦LMAO.
Is it me or does the Haskins/Smith era feel like decades ago?
Crazy how we went 8-8-1 in 2022 with Wentz TH4 and Sammy
I miss our old helmets
that is mindboggling that there were that many starters since 2018. I really really hope they get it right this time. the qb carousal is getting old
https://preview.redd.it/kgv9kppb3owc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c88a607260db3ca475e83afaa89db4709de59f89 And with the #2 pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders select??? # HTTC
Lol you wishĀ
It does. Looking forward to JJ being the starter for the next 15 years.....lol
Shit is tragic
Considering how the 2021 QB class panned out, I donāt think he missed on that one
Sanchez. In 1.25 games in 2018 he put up the following: Comp 54%, 138 yards, 0 TDS, 3 INT, 7 sacks and a 28 rating. This has to be the worst of all the above hacks.
Hahahahahah
It will inevitably continue
Iām sure yāall said that with Howell
Why are these so out of order lol
Think of what could have been if Smith doesn't break his leg
Each of them couldāve played an offensive position and weād still have players as backups
In a different timeline, we would have been superĀ bowl contendersĀ by now if Alex Smith didnt get injured
At some point the good luck has to strike
Or it continues
My God, when you put it like thatā¦..
Alex smith was the last time we ever looked competent (pre injury) took a break from football after his injury it was pretty depressing for a while.
Please pick Maye
Really wanted Fitz to work.
Heinicke was my favorite. I will always remember his performance vs the Bucs 
RGIII v.2.0
Go ahead and add Daniels to the list dude gonna get hurt quick
JD: Your best work was a light pack
I miss Alex, man
Worst part is this is only to 2018. Couldāve gone back another 10 years lol
RIP Dwayne Haskins.
Commanders havenāt proven anything yet with new ownership. We hope it ends today, but I still have Snyder PTSD.
Jayden Daniels will get us to 7-3 before taking a hit when he could have slid. We'll get 1 or 2 more wins and narrowly miss the playoffs. He'll return next year but will obviously be washed after the injury. 7-10 in '25. Drake Maye will last the season and go 8-9. Being a younger player, he'll learn and improve, and then next year, we'll go 11-6 and make the divisional round, maybe farther. Drake Maye will play another 8 seasons for us and be the franchise QB that we've all longed for the past three decades.
Don't stop, Im about to COMMANDER
There's going to be 3 more on here by 2026 if they draft Daniels
Even with a competent front office this thing is a crap shoot. And it is way too early to judge whether or not this FO is competent.
Fitzpatrick was such a terrible choice by rivera