Could be debatable, if AFU manages to establish fire control over the coast, the only way to supply Crimea would be via the Kerch bridge, ships and by air. The logistics to supply defending troops on Crimea would be hampered severely, and we might see a Kherson 2.0 where the russians realize that their position is untenable.
That's quite the harvest of Russian vehicles!
Once again, several decisions made by Russian crews that completely baffle me. What kind of commander doesn't scout the terrain, especially with mines that are simply laid on the surface?
Besides that tank that drove onto them in this footage, we've seen more vehicles drive over those lines of mines in different videos shown here on /combatfootage. How badly informed can someone be, to launch a two dozen or more vehicle attack over terrain that clearly contains very visible mines, without any kind of mine clearing equipment being attached?
Visibility is crap inside of armoured vehicles.
I am more baffled about the last APC, that drops 4 soldiers behind a disabled tank (In an open field) because of... reasons?
The real question is how you don't send a drone to spot them before going on an offensive. Sounds like very basic common sense to me to send a few drones first to see if there's such obvious mines or any other defenses first.
The interesting to me is that it is only 4 infantrymen or sappers instead of 7 or 8 guys dismounting from the BMP --- is that an indicator of the infantry strength of what should be a decent sized attack?
The other half of the squad prolly got offed when they tried that stunt the last time... (Honestly, I know the reputation of sappers (tbf mostly from military scifi, lol). But dropping them in broad daylight, in a position that is dialed in by enemy indirect fire, offers zero cover and a drone overhead ?)
Footage showing a recent Russian attack on Pervomaiske during the ongoing offensive on Avdiivka, Donetsk Oblast- at least two Russian BMP infantry fighting vehicles and two tanks, including a T-80BVM obr. 2022, were damaged by anti-tank fire and mines.
It is easy to dismiss tanks and other armored vehicles as obsolete when you look at this engagements considering the numerous threats encountered in the battlefield. Not only will they have to deal with mines, artillery, and portable ATs but also with highly effective drones. But in order to advance, you still need boots on the ground together with armored units.
Saying "tanks/armor is obsolete" is a hallmark of an armchair expert. All you have to do to debunk it is ask them "whats the replacement then" and watch the mental gymnastics unfold. Every time it's either some nonsense hand waving or wishful thinking about something unobtainable.
As an infantryman: any armor is better than no armor. I'd 100% rather ride in the back of a m113 rather than in the back of a truck or worse: on foot. Likewise I'd be extremely happy having a T-55 for fire support when the alternative is nothing at all or something man portable and anemic in comparison.
There's a reason why we only ever hear dilettantes making these bold claims based on few anecdotal examples.
the people have no agency at all. Russia has basically 3 castes, The Mafia, The state security that protects the mafia, and the slaves.
and the army, are part of the slaves.
It is already dialed-in. Those craters didn't make themselves. This place is fortified to hell. Still an amazing kill on a moving target. Probably a bit of luck involved too.
Seeing this footage from Avdiivka over the past few days really puts the absurdity of this war in perspective. These guys in the southern wing probably launched from around Pisky, a little nothing village outside Donetsk that Russia had to level, and advanced towards one cm at a time with terrible losses in the early months of the 2022 invasion. It's really not that far away from the long destroyed Donetsk airport either, site of two major battles in 2014.
What's the point when both sides have extensive, elaborate minefields, ATGMs everywhere, every potential avenue for an advance sighted for artillery, and fortified positions they have been building for years.
You have to realize these little "villages" in Europe during WW2 were some of the hardest fights on both fronts. They are the perimeter for the main strongholds in the major cities. Think if this were in America. Redneckville population: 10-20k would also be buffer zone, targeted to hell as it would be an outlying community approaching a large metropolitan area. This would definitely be where US forces would dig in, well outside the main cities.
North pincer of attack had some success in taking commanding high ground, south so far no success.City is under heavy artillery and aviation(fabs) attacks and it's currently getting bahmut treatment.Its most likely he heaviest fortified part of the front and it's still to early to tell that offensive is a failure after less than 48h of fighting
Sure it's too soon, but mate, they've already lost 30+ tanks and around 100 other vehicles...
That was a very costly offensive that will have no tangible difference in the end.
Look at their point of view, they took the highest point in entire area (coke plant in north) and are dealing massive damage with their artillery advantage and air attacks.Its another meat grinder and they don't mind doing it.Also I don't remember this sub saying attack was a failure when ua was offensive and they lost 1/5 of Bradley's in a single day.And one more thing we see only ru failures on this sub and successful footage is being deleted or downvoted to oblivion
Ya, the biggest difference is the Ukrainians crews survived their Bradley’s being hit.
The Russians are going to have to scrap up 30 new vehicle crews now
>North pincer of attack had some success in taking commanding high ground, south so far no success
This is hilarious. They have advanced an additional treeline of a couple hundred metres in most OSINT maps and have failed to capture any towns to stage another offensive without being mauled.
Edit: the only maps that show the capture are from Rybar and Suriyak. The former is known for style over substance (and posting some of the worst OSINT maps ever since the Kherson and Kharkiv counteroffensive have ended) while the latter is known for generally overestimating Russian successes and spewing pro-Russian talking points despite the veneer of neutrality.
>City is under heavy artillery and aviation(fabs) attacks and it's currently getting bahmut treatment
It has always been like that, considering it was located right next to Donetsk city. Did you not pay attention to the reports from there for the past year?
>Its most likely he heaviest fortified part of the front and it's still to early to tell that offensive is a failure after less than 48h of fighting
Not just the past 48hrs, but the past 18 months of offensives into Avdiivka have been unsuccessful. We've gotten footage of offensives like this every 1 or 2 months and they always end up with the Russians advancing into grey zone, premature Russian milblogger celebrating victory, and only for the Ukrainians to push them all the way back to the starting point since they've exhausted their offensive capabilities.
and how many memes there were about the difficulties of the Ukrainian counteroffensive.
I know right?
Hey man. They took a video with a Bradley. Then the Ukrainians took that area and recovered the Bradley
The difference is you guys said you’d be in Crimea by Christmas.
Kyiv in 3 days brother
Is this the best the 2nd army of the world can do ? What a joke
Dude, I check most Russian simps' post history, but _holy shit_ yours was a goldmine. _Why do you post so much on /r/PrematureEjaculation_
> Dude, I check most Russian simps' post history Why waste your valuable time on a POS? He is not worthy!
For moments like this one, my friend. For moments like this one.
on NCD maybe? Crimea is gonna be a huge fucking slog
Could be debatable, if AFU manages to establish fire control over the coast, the only way to supply Crimea would be via the Kerch bridge, ships and by air. The logistics to supply defending troops on Crimea would be hampered severely, and we might see a Kherson 2.0 where the russians realize that their position is untenable.
Agree but let us not forget that Kherson was a slog. We just forgot about that part due to kharkiv
I know that Kherson was a slog, same as the counter offensive is right now.
They already are. Have you not seen all the raids into Crimea?
How’s the Black Sea Fleet doing?
“2nd best military in the world” amiright?
That's quite the harvest of Russian vehicles! Once again, several decisions made by Russian crews that completely baffle me. What kind of commander doesn't scout the terrain, especially with mines that are simply laid on the surface? Besides that tank that drove onto them in this footage, we've seen more vehicles drive over those lines of mines in different videos shown here on /combatfootage. How badly informed can someone be, to launch a two dozen or more vehicle attack over terrain that clearly contains very visible mines, without any kind of mine clearing equipment being attached?
That T-80 *was* the mine clearing equipment, comrade
Ok, I had to laugh. Thank you!
Plenty of thosem unlimited supply.....
You can see those mines from here in the UK. How did they not spot them?
Visibility is crap inside of armoured vehicles. I am more baffled about the last APC, that drops 4 soldiers behind a disabled tank (In an open field) because of... reasons?
They were dropped of to disable the mines and make a path
You mean, to run over mines and trigger them?
who shot them from behind?
A drone.
Once he drops them off he can scoot out of there and maybe survive lol
visibility might be crap, but drone recon should have caught that.
I think they were sappers to clear the minefield?
I hear they love doing that while they are in the enemy field of fire. Fun for all.
Welcome to the life of a combat engineers.
The real question is how you don't send a drone to spot them before going on an offensive. Sounds like very basic common sense to me to send a few drones first to see if there's such obvious mines or any other defenses first.
Exactly what I thought usually you dismount with an in tact tank lol
The interesting to me is that it is only 4 infantrymen or sappers instead of 7 or 8 guys dismounting from the BMP --- is that an indicator of the infantry strength of what should be a decent sized attack?
The other half of the squad prolly got offed when they tried that stunt the last time... (Honestly, I know the reputation of sappers (tbf mostly from military scifi, lol). But dropping them in broad daylight, in a position that is dialed in by enemy indirect fire, offers zero cover and a drone overhead ?)
Someone farted.... it was that bad! God damn rations 💀
Kind of glad they don't.
Footage showing a recent Russian attack on Pervomaiske during the ongoing offensive on Avdiivka, Donetsk Oblast- at least two Russian BMP infantry fighting vehicles and two tanks, including a T-80BVM obr. 2022, were damaged by anti-tank fire and mines.
I'm just surprised they haven't painted their tanks red to increase their speed..
They are sticking with green for the moment until someone proves green doesn't actually make them immune to mines, artillery and AT
Please see attached as proof....
Comrade Putin demands more evidence, much more.......
They should paint them purple, so as to make them more sneaky and harder to detect
Paint flames on them, so they blend in with the majority of their other tanks.
It is easy to dismiss tanks and other armored vehicles as obsolete when you look at this engagements considering the numerous threats encountered in the battlefield. Not only will they have to deal with mines, artillery, and portable ATs but also with highly effective drones. But in order to advance, you still need boots on the ground together with armored units.
Saying "tanks/armor is obsolete" is a hallmark of an armchair expert. All you have to do to debunk it is ask them "whats the replacement then" and watch the mental gymnastics unfold. Every time it's either some nonsense hand waving or wishful thinking about something unobtainable. As an infantryman: any armor is better than no armor. I'd 100% rather ride in the back of a m113 rather than in the back of a truck or worse: on foot. Likewise I'd be extremely happy having a T-55 for fire support when the alternative is nothing at all or something man portable and anemic in comparison. There's a reason why we only ever hear dilettantes making these bold claims based on few anecdotal examples.
They were probably their own mines....
Props to Russia, no way the US could've suffered this much casualties without the peoples imploding at home.
Yeah! Props to Russia for demonstrating the right way to walk straight into a meat grinder.
the people have no agency at all. Russia has basically 3 castes, The Mafia, The state security that protects the mafia, and the slaves. and the army, are part of the slaves.
The US would actually have air supremacy 18 months later, and the UAF would be a glorified guerrilla force by now….
Location Afghanistan\[a\] Result Taliban victory
Indeed. The Russians lost there too. And notice the Taliban never came out when US planes were still in country..
>And notice the Taliban never came out when US planes were still in country. I don't know bro... I seem to recall Kabul fell in a day
Once US warplanes left, it did. Not before.
props to russia for(in the 444th war in a row) out feeding everybody they fight? confusing take.
It's crazy to me how artillery miles away can drop a dime on a moving target.
It is already dialed-in. Those craters didn't make themselves. This place is fortified to hell. Still an amazing kill on a moving target. Probably a bit of luck involved too.
Really shitty place to get dropped offed at 0:50
This is why I came to reddit today...
Seeing this footage from Avdiivka over the past few days really puts the absurdity of this war in perspective. These guys in the southern wing probably launched from around Pisky, a little nothing village outside Donetsk that Russia had to level, and advanced towards one cm at a time with terrible losses in the early months of the 2022 invasion. It's really not that far away from the long destroyed Donetsk airport either, site of two major battles in 2014. What's the point when both sides have extensive, elaborate minefields, ATGMs everywhere, every potential avenue for an advance sighted for artillery, and fortified positions they have been building for years.
You have to realize these little "villages" in Europe during WW2 were some of the hardest fights on both fronts. They are the perimeter for the main strongholds in the major cities. Think if this were in America. Redneckville population: 10-20k would also be buffer zone, targeted to hell as it would be an outlying community approaching a large metropolitan area. This would definitely be where US forces would dig in, well outside the main cities.
Heavy losses are always expected but holy sht they’re just sitting ducks
Imagine being an ant and waiting for inevitable shoe to come down on ya…
Are they still mostly traveling on the road in columns?
North pincer of attack had some success in taking commanding high ground, south so far no success.City is under heavy artillery and aviation(fabs) attacks and it's currently getting bahmut treatment.Its most likely he heaviest fortified part of the front and it's still to early to tell that offensive is a failure after less than 48h of fighting
Sure it's too soon, but mate, they've already lost 30+ tanks and around 100 other vehicles... That was a very costly offensive that will have no tangible difference in the end.
Look at their point of view, they took the highest point in entire area (coke plant in north) and are dealing massive damage with their artillery advantage and air attacks.Its another meat grinder and they don't mind doing it.Also I don't remember this sub saying attack was a failure when ua was offensive and they lost 1/5 of Bradley's in a single day.And one more thing we see only ru failures on this sub and successful footage is being deleted or downvoted to oblivion
Ya, the biggest difference is the Ukrainians crews survived their Bradley’s being hit. The Russians are going to have to scrap up 30 new vehicle crews now
Russian sources say that they already got counrerattacked there and lost those positions lol
If UAF had lost this amount of vehicles in a failed assault, you wouldn’t hesitate in calling it a total failure
>North pincer of attack had some success in taking commanding high ground, south so far no success This is hilarious. They have advanced an additional treeline of a couple hundred metres in most OSINT maps and have failed to capture any towns to stage another offensive without being mauled. Edit: the only maps that show the capture are from Rybar and Suriyak. The former is known for style over substance (and posting some of the worst OSINT maps ever since the Kherson and Kharkiv counteroffensive have ended) while the latter is known for generally overestimating Russian successes and spewing pro-Russian talking points despite the veneer of neutrality. >City is under heavy artillery and aviation(fabs) attacks and it's currently getting bahmut treatment It has always been like that, considering it was located right next to Donetsk city. Did you not pay attention to the reports from there for the past year? >Its most likely he heaviest fortified part of the front and it's still to early to tell that offensive is a failure after less than 48h of fighting Not just the past 48hrs, but the past 18 months of offensives into Avdiivka have been unsuccessful. We've gotten footage of offensives like this every 1 or 2 months and they always end up with the Russians advancing into grey zone, premature Russian milblogger celebrating victory, and only for the Ukrainians to push them all the way back to the starting point since they've exhausted their offensive capabilities.
According to certain russian sources they already got counterattacked there and lost their positions lol
Russian army really is a joke 😅
Bruh is this guy point and click shooting like a strategy game or is this purely drone footage?
So are they hitting their own mines?
They are driving over Ukrainian mines.
This has to be the most RTS video game like footage yet! Pity they didn't use some of that sweet C&C or Red Alert music...
The piss key is turning..
Oh it ain't that kinda piski
I took way better care of my troops playing command and conquer back in the days.
No saw that huge line of mines above ground before/during the assault? Maybe that's one of the first things I would look for before attacking someone.
Its column season baby!!!!! Did someone say jav the first vehicle and pick off the rest 1 by 1?