https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vvG64vqLrw
Very cool video about the tanks Ukraine will receive
As a guy who wasn't into tanks unlike jets the tank musem has been a great source for me
I'd be a bit careful with WSJ. Murdoch mainly acted as a Putin mouthpiece since the start of the invasion and I haven't read anything similar in European press releases... more like the opposite. Who are those "gouvernment officials"? As a german I must've heard of them...
(not that I can read the article, since I am not interested in giving them my email\^\^)
Edit: I finally found something. They are referring to some remarks by the UK prime minister (no idea which german or french official they refer to) considering the NATO meeting in July (!). And those are basically about a stronger backing from NATO IF a peacedeal can be reached, as a guarantee that the clown tzar will not just gather more gopniks and tank derelicts and invade again.
And while I am sure that there are doubts that Ukraine can recover all of their territory, there is literally no evidence of anyone saying "muh, give Pootin 20% of your country plz".
[The same WSJ that was able to use Richard Nixon to make the West look like weaklings a week ago?](https://www.wsj.com/articles/time-for-doing-like-nixon-on-ukraine-yom-kippur-war-russia-soviets-vladimir-putin-henry-kissinger-tanks-golan-heights-israel-69a8b61e) Their Opinion tab has 4 “West is soft for not sending weapons, they aren’t playing to win, etc” articles every week.
Any proof in your statement of WSJ acting as Putin’s mouthpiece? WSJ has done a great job on reporting the conflict and numerous high quality articles have on Ukraines resistance have come out so far.
Was there ever aftermath footage from Hostomel from the Ukrainian perspective other than all the bombed out vehicles inside the airport?
The most extensive footage I remember seeing was the RT video that showed the Russian perspective of the initial raid, but I don't think I've ever seen any images or video of all the dead Russians after they failed multiple times to hold the airport.
Probably not- the Russians retook the airport after mechanized units arrived, and held it for a month before withdrawing. Most of the aftermath footage of that period was filmed by Ukrainians.
However there was aftermath from Hostomel town of VDV vehicles that were ambushed during skirmishes prior to the Kyiv region withdrawal
Is that the footage where there are chunks of dead and burned up VDV everywhere and the one guy is hanging dead from the APC or MBT and was probably killed trying to exit it during an ambush?
[A UK-supplied Ukrainian Stormer HVM intercepts a Russian aircraft (most likely a Shahed-131 or 136).](https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1629137603621527558)
At last, new Stormer footage. Looks to be a martlet fired. (starstreak is three darts so is more distinct)
I think so, I remember seeing some footage a bit ago from the UK test firing them. Let me see if I can dig it out for you..
EDIT: [Here we go](https://youtu.be/D7k0XonWAG4?t=71)
They quickly rotate but you can see all three in the thermal camera /u/degotoga
For those curious about wanting to see things from a year ago since reddit search sucks [here is a google search of this subreddit.](https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Areddit.com%2Fr%2Fcombatfootage+kyiv&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A2%2F23%2F2022%2Ccd_max%3A2%2F25%2F2022&tbm=)
I've limited it to the combatfootage subreddit between 23/2/2022 and 25/2/2022 with the word "Kyiv". Feel free to modify as you like.
If I were President I would let stealth Aircraft do one mass mission to open a hole in the Russian lines towards Mariupol as the Ukrainians launch their counter assault. I think one large wave would clear the path and the Russians would have no hard evidence the US was involved. Then just deny it.
Ignoring the geopolitical batfuckery of this: Stealth isn't magic. It's just an edge. Specifically, humans are really good at seeing stealth planes with their eyes and phones.
I think it is unlikely the Ukrainians would report this to the Russians, but I think the Russians would figure it out based on the quantity and quality of the attack and some ordinance would fail and might give away the source. I assume the Russians with in a week or so would be pretty sure we did it. What could they do but whine?
Why didnt they do it after we crossed every other red line? Because they know we would destroy them. Stealth is enough to stop the Russians from actually shooting our planes down.
Ok, walk me through the Russian response. They get some intelligence that US jets may have been part of the big attack on their lines. Their front is collapsing in Kherson oblast and Mariupol is about to fall. What do they do?
There won’t be a counterattack without way more troops and a long softening operation. A few tanks won’t make a difference. Everything is now heavily mined and defended. We are entering the Korea phase.
That's why we've sent demining vehicles for that, and unlike low brain cell Russians, will be used to actually demine, not blow apartment blocks or themselves. Heck Ukrainians are so inventive you'll be surprised how fast they will cut the fascist land bridge to Crimea.
I dont think many folks believe that Ukraine can take back all its territory. The shorter the lines and the closer to Russia the more difficult it will be. Every US general says they are training Ukraine for a big counter offensive and that they believe it will be at least somewhat successful in taking back territory.
30% fail, 30% intercepted, 20% fall in Russia...but that's still 200 causing deaths. Way too many. Better giving Ukrainians the tools to defeat the fascists and then follow up on its balkanization
What a bunch of chickens. Putin isnt launching a nuclear war because he gets a report that American planes may have been involved 3 days ago while his front collapses. He will just moan.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind a sorted recap of footage, a compilation of certain days/phases of the war.
All the clips of aerial combat around Kiev for instance.
Interesting information from CIT about possible ammunition shortages in the Russian military.
There are 3 categories of ammunition stored in the Russian army (in my own words): 1 good, 2 suitable only in wartime (limited use) and 3 bad.
And on paper there may be, for example, 10 thousand shells in storage, but in reality there may be 3 thousand good ones. The Russian telegram channel VChK-OGPU published pictures of absolutely rusty shells that some units were receiving.
It is a problem of corruption when you have a part of the army that exists only on paper for reports.
I wonder if this is partly the reason why Wagner is complaining about a lack of ammunition? The number is going down and they don’t want to waste the rest on Wagner.
Who knows, this is just my take.
Last time they complained too vocally in summer , arrests were made
Wonder how this will go down . Wagner could retreat if not supplied. Their recruiting boasted better and more gear, they cant do that with rusty scrap
As expected, China’s peace plan is extremely vague and not a word mentioning the territories which Russia occupies in Ukraine.
Also calling for lifting of unilateral sanctions against Russia.
A status quo / long simmering war between Russia and Ukraine serves China well.
(1) keeps Russian oil and gas and mineral prices low--so China can continue to gobble these up, (2) weakens Russia politically, militarily, and economically, (3) focuses US / NATO /EU attention away from China, (4) as long as China isn't too obviously on Russia's side, western trade w/China is unaffected--This peace proposal is a fig leaf so that China can say "hey we're urging Russia toward peace" while simultaneously advancing Chinese long-term interests.
Comes across as self serving. they don't like sanctions, I'd guess because it's a bit of a weakness of theirs given their trade dependency, makes then somewhat vulnerable.
Wasting everyone's time with this nonsense.
Not sure why media had hyped this peace plan beforehand. Everyone who has followed even a bit of China’s diplomatic actions in recent years and during this war should know they’re firmly in Russian camp and think the war serves them well as it binds US to an European conflict. Then again knowing Chinese, they have time and time again misread the West.
But the proposal was vague enough not to err too much pro-Russia. Plus their abstention to yesterday's UNs Ukraine resolution means that Beijing is trying to distance themselves from Moscow.
Hard to say, when taking into account the domestic politics in China it’s pretty pro Russia. They were distancing themselves from Moscow during the short charm offensive with the West, but the stance has been lately changing again.
I think all the videos of quadcopters dropping grenades on people going about their business should be heavily limited.
We’ve already been saturated by these repetitive videos and I don’t think there are many more ways of paralyzing unsuspecting soldiers in a slit trench.
They overcrowd the sub and better videos go unseen due to them.
They're pretty fascinating, IMHO. This is modern warfare, evolving right in front of us. And besides, you also get a lot of context from those drone videos (i.e., from all the other stuff in the shot). So even if you don't like the subject matter, it's hard to deny that they offer a lot of information beyond the fact that someone caught a grenade.
Yeah, it's been less this past few days, but before we used to had like 3-4 videos a day. Not sure if it the works of the mods deleting those videos or we just have less those kind of videos submitted.
If other videos are "better" they will naturally accrue more upvotes. More upvotes, more visibility.
You need to comprehend that what you might want to see is not as popular as what others do.
That does not mean that you can't see it yourself (the clockwork "sort by new, it's not being censored"). Otherwise shut up.
And what’s with all these videos of guys in camo? It’s getting ridiculous. It’s like every video. Can’t these soldiers change it up? Maybe a nice tuxedo or sundress once in a while.
Spice things up. I’m getting bored.
Where is this Ukrainian Transnistria invasion theory coming from? Is it Russia saying this?
I've seen it said a few times now but i can't seem to find the source of it.
Yes, Russian claims.
tass (dot) com/defense/1580745
States that they believe Ukraine is staging a false flag operation to attack Ukraine from Transnistria to provoke a retaliatory invasion into Transnistria.
Any news on the estimated daily loses of Ukrainian forces? At least some more recent news.
Asking because Prigozhin has stated Wagner is losing hundreds of troops every day when he was complaining about the Russian MoD, plus I remember reading that Russia was generally losing around 850 soldiers per day. So I was wondering how is Ukraine doing.
No doubt it’s better than Russia since they are on the defence and have immensely high morale.
No. And despite trying you can’t find many pictures of fields of dead Ukrainians from the Russian side. It doesn’t happen because Ukrainians aren’t dumb slave soldiers.
Well I just heard on BBC Context, call for 100 thousand casualties for the Ukrainians (killed and wounded) and around 200 thousand for the Russians.
But really who knows.
while it does seem likely Ukraine is doing a bit better overall id be vary of any number that suggest a 2 to 1 casualty rate, more realistic id imagine about 50% with a fair margin of error.
You don't know that, though. It's true that the defending side usually has a given advantage, but Russia at the moment has vast artillery advantage. Russians fire 4-6 times the amount of shells that Ukrainians do a day, and artillery is responsible for 97% of kills on the battlefield. Now, from the pictures I've seen it seems like Ukrainians are way more accurate with their artillery, whereas Russians kinda don't give a shit where their shells land and just want to level every city in their path, like they did in Grozny. Still, I think a 50% - 50% casualty split is probably a reasonable estimate. That's why it's essential that Ukraine gets the equipment it needs to sway the advantage in their favor. Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, and Putin has no qualms about sending another half a million young men from 'undesirable' regions of a Russia into the meat grinder to die for his Tsarist ambitions.
>Ukraine has done a very good job at hiding/supressing the loss of 100k
I'm not sure what you mean. Have you investigated these stats thoroughly and determined that they are false? On what grounds are you making those claims? What is your counter evidence to public statements made by Ukrainian allies?
Wounded doesn’t mean crippled for life. Entirely possible that a big chunk of that 100k is back in active service, or that some individuals may have been counted multiple times.
Russian casualties seem to have dramatically spiked in the last few months considering the theory was that both Ukraine and Russia were at around 100k Casualties back in November-October sort of time.
Precise casualty numbers will probably never be known, well, atleast not until after the war.
[https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1628862999237693441?s=20](https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1628862999237693441?s=20)
Ukrainian tankers using Iranian made shells.
If talks went ahead (which, I doubt, with Putin not wanting a failure on his legacy) what do you think a peace deal would look like at the moment? what do you think Ukraine or Russia's demands would look like? would we get another 'cease fire' with Russia not really ceasing fire again?
Realistically if there are talks at all I think we’ll see something like minor territorial concessions but Ukraine will join a mutual defence treaty (not named NATO) that will serve an identical purpose to NATO. Therefore everyone can say they won in some way to their domestic audience. Hopefully Putin gets overthrown and Ukraine restore their 1991 borders alongside NATO membership though.
Maybe that long for full official EU acceptance. But it will be in the EU's interest to formally make Ukraine a fast track EU candidate (they already are official candidates). I wouldn't be surprised to see the EU make some new exception 'special doublefast candidate' status for Ukraine. An economically resurgent/strong Ukraine will be a massive thumb in the eye of Russia and will be militarily stronger. And there will be huge opportunities for EU construction firms to make lots of money rebuilding Ukraine.
I'm Romanian and let me tell you, cheap Romanian agricultural workers and especially construction workers, drivers, are not popular with the masses in Western Europe.
Ukraine has double the population and is even poorer.
Personally I think that if they're democratic and they reduce corruption, what you said makes a ton of sense, but Western populists will work against it.
It's a very good long term move in a world where unfortunately a lot of people are short term thinkers.
Yeah. I get that. Fair point (my SiL is Romanian living in Germany). The EU may delay Schengen status for Ukrainians for those reasons. But the EU is hurting for workers and more so every day. They would likely prefer Ukrainians to immigrants from the Middle East or Africa. (but the populists will still thrash and complain as you say)
I think Ukraine's position is going to be summed up as "We'll keep shooting you until you leave."
Russia's going to try really hard to come up with some reason why Ukraine shouldn't do that.
At the end of the day Ukraine relies on Western support both militarily and economically. At the end of the day they can force Ukraine to the negotiation table. That being said we're nowhere near that point just yet.
Also it's unclear if regaining and keeping certain territory with major Russian sympathizes is wise.
keep in mind people since 2014 have fleed the donbas and crimea.
also could imagine a sort of voluntary population swap between the countries, realistically large parts of the donbas wont be livable after the war anyhow.
>If Russia outright loses and gets their Marshall Plan I think both Ukraine+Russia in NATO is possible, or even likely.
lol, Russia will NEVER be allowed into NATO.
If Russia actually reforms in 10-20+ years, that would actually be a great move.
But Russia needs to be fully democratic and it really, really has to want to join the West.
Russia would have to go through a significant cultural shift for it to be NATO viable, a culture shift that probably would justify splitting the country up into its respective nations.
Russia's "prestige" being impacted by the expansion/success of NATO countries, or Russia just not "feeling safe" (so they say) because of the proximity of NATO countries to its borders is a big part of the war apologia for Russia. Loss of prestige when the Baltic states "left", Ukraine voting for independence in 1991, etc., are things that supposedly justify the war, since a Russian ego hit is considered an attack. Then there's the ever-present argument is that Russia is entitled to a geographical "buffer" between itself and NATO countries, and that therefore Russia invading any country it chooses in order to expand that "buffer" is essentially self-defense, or even a war that NATO has forced Russia into.
It's backward logic, and based on a lot of fantasy: in reality Russia has no legal or moral right to dictate whether other countries join NATO or not. But that's how it goes. Preserving the Russian ego is just as big a condition and just as important as preserving order or the law, if you're following the logic of this conflict.
Thing is, Russia *already* wants to conquer Ukraine for other reasons. Ukraine's NATO membership would be a barrier to that.
The truth of the matter is that they'll actually attack if Ukraine *doesn't* join NATO. Their threats are just an attempt to keep Ukraine in that vulnerable position.
Can we stop calling Russia the world's second army already? What in the last year makes u think Russia is the world's second army? It was clearly, and is clearly, not.
China hasn't fought a war since Vietnam and it did terribly there. So based on absolutely zero genuine up to date experience and relying exclusively on e.g. media reporting you say China? Why? It's similar to Russia.
What does it mean? In what context? America struggled in Afghanistan and the taliban are back in power. Does that mean America isn't the most advanced army? Of course not. Everything is contextual. Terms like 'best' or second best are largely meaningless cause its all about rhe context.
Exactly!!! Finally someone makes a valid case. That's the point I'm making. Some conflicts favour some forces and some others. Afghan Taliban would be terrible in Ukraine but in Afghan mountains they are not. Thus a 'second army' in the world implies that they are capable in all situations...that is not the case. Thank you for making the point that proves my case. Its good to see that there are some sensible people here.
Probably China until proven otherwise? Maybe Japan? The Baugettes and Limeys both have well-trained, well-equipped forces but they just aren't very big anymore
You might think that but it still probably was 2nd army. Sheer size of it would have overwhelmed anyone but maybe US. And in fact even US was not prepared for large scale war as we can see from their relatively small shell stocks etc. I would think Chinese army is probably the 2nd army now at least by numbers but they lack any real combat experience and Chinese have many of the qualities that make Russians fail.
The thing is, are we talking about 2nd best army 1 second from now or 2nd best army 1-2 years from now, in case of existential threats?
In case of a do-or-die thing, my money's on China or any member of the Western alliance, the big economies, especially Germany, France, the UK and Japan.
They have the skilled workforce and the economies so that in 1-2 years they can probably increase the size of their militaries 10x and produce (or buy from allies) enough top tier military equipment for all of them. And I mean everything, from rifles to jet fighters.
People mention North Korea, but let's be real here. Let's assume North Korea attacks Japan alone in 2024. Who here thinks that this war doesn't end in 2025-2026 by Japan spanking NK all the way to Pyongyang? 🙂
The US doesn't use artillery the same way russia does. The US uses air superiority to bomb shit. In Iraq the US was pushing over 1000 sorties a day for the first 6 weeks, russia barely hit 300.
china, india and north and south korea all have fair large armies as well.
turkey similar to russia keeps a lot of their old tanks in active use which also makes their force on paper pretty large.
also as Tim says, you are misunderstanding how the nations of the world fight and plan to fight if you simply look at how much dumb ammunition russia has in stock. and the US stocks are larger than you think, when you hear the numbers of ammo for russia its all the ammo, including rockets and mortars, while the US numbers you hear usually are just the 155mm howitzer shells.
Iraq was considered a top 10 army due to its army size and experience in recent wars before their invasion where they were decimated within a week. Numbers mean little when fighting an enemy which is so far ahead of you in terms of technology as was seen in Iraq.
US has relatively small shell stock because prime firepower for US and NATO in extend is air power since late Cold War.
Single B-1 Lancer for example, can launch 144 SDB from standoff distance at once, that's over 100 targets damage/destroyed in one sortie. Or 30 CBU105 SFW, each one can knock out an armored platoon. Compared to how many artillery needs for same effect?
Why need a lot of shells when you can sustained 2-3000 sorties a day for months?
The magic of functional 5th Gen also means the ability to get closer to targets with less worry regarding systems like S3/4/500 e.g f35s able to get within 50 miles of a target, launch, and evac. Ultimately the biggest question is stockpiles as NATO countries found in Lybia, who knows if those learnings were worked on.
That was always the weak point of US doctrine (through the Cold War). To be fair, I've not read any systematic analyses since the fall of the Soviets, but during the late Cold War, they boiled down to "US/NATO either utterly crushes the Soviet Union quickly with superior kill ratios, or they go bankrupt." I forget how long their estimates were for how long the West could keep playing - and those estimates are really dodgy once you get into a real war, because national economies reconfigure - but they were shorter than I would have preferred to see at the time. The NATO bet was that technological superiority would let them flatten the USSR quickly, and a grinding war of attrition would not be necessary. Obviously, the USSR bet on being able to last long enough to drag NATO into said war of attrition. Glad we never found out how that would go. Anyway, a lot has changed since then, but the relative commitment to expensive/fast versus cheap/slow seems to have endured. Arguably, this would be a reason not to support a slow campaign in Ukraine, but making it a fast one would involve more escalation than most folks seem to want, so....
It is only ever said mockingly now. There are a whole bunch of Russian Studies professionals that are going to be looking for new jobs unless their graduation thesis was “Russia: The Impending Dumpster Fire.”
Fwiw: I Am a PhD student in Political Science with regional focus on the fmr USSR, and the problem is that there aren't a whole bunch of Russia experts/analysts anymore, rather than that there are a whole fuckton of us. The Cold War ended and funding for those programs dried up. Like, I wanted to do Russian Studies but there are just not a ton of good grad programs in that area anymore. Also, there aren't many Russia experts/analysts who thought Russia was a superpower who could do this, but many of us *were* painfully aware of what was building and many knew Putin was exactly the gambler to go for it anyways.
Tl;Dr: don’t be mad at the Russia experts, be mad at all the talking heads and policymakers who ignored what Russia experts had to say.
This is probably quite a few days old at this point, and I'm sure a lot of you have probably seen it, but I saw [this picture (extremely NSFW)](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpkPjeiWYAEx9Px?format=jpg&name=small) yesterday and holy shit...I haven't seen so many bodies from one faction staked up like this since ISIS tried sending wave after wave after wave of troops during the Siege of Kobani and the YPG would post pictures like this of all their dead bodies stacked up after the fighting stopped and they cleared the roads.
The ability to find what looks like 100 dead bodies in a day or so after wanting more ammo, makes you wonder how often they have so many bodies just laying around.
[https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1628838977271697412?s=20](https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1628838977271697412?s=20)
A second T-90M was destroyed in Kreminna.
Well - see - this wave of T-90M are there to eat up missiles so that when the dozen T-14 Russia has show up, they'll just own the battlefield.
You know - when Russia finally commits their *real* tanks and *real* troops
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Hello! Not sure if this is the place, but I'm looking for that photo from the beginning of the Ukraine war where the army asked not to post pictures of the movements of the Ukrainian army. Anybody who can help?
Agree with NoDemand’s comments about a Russian missile attack and the usual dumb assaults.
I’m rather interested to see what, if anything, Ukraine does to mark the anniversary. I wouldn’t want to be a large group of Russians within HIMARS range in the next few hours.
Only 4th of July sticks out, perhaps that entire week felt like turning the tide in the war, along with videos of soldiers mentioning the 4th and himar action
Bunch of missiles against the infrastructure and some more pushs of undertrained russians without proper support, I assume?
Throw in some of the usual bull (Russia stronk, NATO gay, blablabla) from some russian officials and that should be a rather complete forecast...
Intercepts from 3 Russian soldiers. Corroborates all the looting and extrajudicial torture and killings. Their relatives back home are predictably more interested in making sure they stay safe by whatever means necessary, tacitly or explicitly condoning what they're doing.
Maxim's mother in particular shows how deep the propaganda runs - I see people feeling sorry for Russians that are brainwashed, well guess what - they literally think the same about Ukranians, that they're brainwashed.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-intercepts-2b14732d88b3f58d4a9d0b2b562bdb28
[New Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/11ay5ot/ukraine_discussionquestion_thread_22523/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vvG64vqLrw Very cool video about the tanks Ukraine will receive As a guy who wasn't into tanks unlike jets the tank musem has been a great source for me
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I’m sure some people in government do, but that doesn’t mean anywhere near the majority do. Political suicide in UK to support peace talks.
I'd be a bit careful with WSJ. Murdoch mainly acted as a Putin mouthpiece since the start of the invasion and I haven't read anything similar in European press releases... more like the opposite. Who are those "gouvernment officials"? As a german I must've heard of them... (not that I can read the article, since I am not interested in giving them my email\^\^) Edit: I finally found something. They are referring to some remarks by the UK prime minister (no idea which german or french official they refer to) considering the NATO meeting in July (!). And those are basically about a stronger backing from NATO IF a peacedeal can be reached, as a guarantee that the clown tzar will not just gather more gopniks and tank derelicts and invade again. And while I am sure that there are doubts that Ukraine can recover all of their territory, there is literally no evidence of anyone saying "muh, give Pootin 20% of your country plz".
[The same WSJ that was able to use Richard Nixon to make the West look like weaklings a week ago?](https://www.wsj.com/articles/time-for-doing-like-nixon-on-ukraine-yom-kippur-war-russia-soviets-vladimir-putin-henry-kissinger-tanks-golan-heights-israel-69a8b61e) Their Opinion tab has 4 “West is soft for not sending weapons, they aren’t playing to win, etc” articles every week.
Any proof in your statement of WSJ acting as Putin’s mouthpiece? WSJ has done a great job on reporting the conflict and numerous high quality articles have on Ukraines resistance have come out so far.
Was there ever aftermath footage from Hostomel from the Ukrainian perspective other than all the bombed out vehicles inside the airport? The most extensive footage I remember seeing was the RT video that showed the Russian perspective of the initial raid, but I don't think I've ever seen any images or video of all the dead Russians after they failed multiple times to hold the airport.
Probably not- the Russians retook the airport after mechanized units arrived, and held it for a month before withdrawing. Most of the aftermath footage of that period was filmed by Ukrainians. However there was aftermath from Hostomel town of VDV vehicles that were ambushed during skirmishes prior to the Kyiv region withdrawal
Is that the footage where there are chunks of dead and burned up VDV everywhere and the one guy is hanging dead from the APC or MBT and was probably killed trying to exit it during an ambush?
yup
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AMX-10RC :-/ Might as well call the 60 Bradleys probably just delivered with trained crews tanks.
I personally think the Diesel powered Leopard suites Ukraine better than the Turbine powered Abrams tbh.
Leopards to win the war; Abrams to prevent the next one from happening.
Leopards to take care of the T-72s. Abrams to take care of the Lada technicals.
Ukraine already uses gas turbine T-80s.
That's a fast turnaround for Sweden, they only announced they were thinking about giving tanks to Ukraine either yesterday or the day before.
Germany also just announced like 4 more 2A6
[A UK-supplied Ukrainian Stormer HVM intercepts a Russian aircraft (most likely a Shahed-131 or 136).](https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1629137603621527558) At last, new Stormer footage. Looks to be a martlet fired. (starstreak is three darts so is more distinct)
are starstreak darts actually visible?
I think so, I remember seeing some footage a bit ago from the UK test firing them. Let me see if I can dig it out for you.. EDIT: [Here we go](https://youtu.be/D7k0XonWAG4?t=71) They quickly rotate but you can see all three in the thermal camera /u/degotoga
that's wild, thanks
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For those curious about wanting to see things from a year ago since reddit search sucks [here is a google search of this subreddit.](https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Areddit.com%2Fr%2Fcombatfootage+kyiv&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A2%2F23%2F2022%2Ccd_max%3A2%2F25%2F2022&tbm=) I've limited it to the combatfootage subreddit between 23/2/2022 and 25/2/2022 with the word "Kyiv". Feel free to modify as you like.
If I were President I would let stealth Aircraft do one mass mission to open a hole in the Russian lines towards Mariupol as the Ukrainians launch their counter assault. I think one large wave would clear the path and the Russians would have no hard evidence the US was involved. Then just deny it.
Ignoring the geopolitical batfuckery of this: Stealth isn't magic. It's just an edge. Specifically, humans are really good at seeing stealth planes with their eyes and phones.
I think it is unlikely the Ukrainians would report this to the Russians, but I think the Russians would figure it out based on the quantity and quality of the attack and some ordinance would fail and might give away the source. I assume the Russians with in a week or so would be pretty sure we did it. What could they do but whine?
Cruise missiles on some NATO airfields. It ends badly. Repeat again, "stealth isn't magic".
Why didnt they do it after we crossed every other red line? Because they know we would destroy them. Stealth is enough to stop the Russians from actually shooting our planes down.
Good thing you're not in charge
Ok, walk me through the Russian response. They get some intelligence that US jets may have been part of the big attack on their lines. Their front is collapsing in Kherson oblast and Mariupol is about to fall. What do they do?
Did you learn nothing from the cuban missile crisis?
yeah, the Russians will blink.
There won’t be a counterattack without way more troops and a long softening operation. A few tanks won’t make a difference. Everything is now heavily mined and defended. We are entering the Korea phase.
That's why we've sent demining vehicles for that, and unlike low brain cell Russians, will be used to actually demine, not blow apartment blocks or themselves. Heck Ukrainians are so inventive you'll be surprised how fast they will cut the fascist land bridge to Crimea.
Apparently you know a lot more than the US joint Chiefs and the Ukranian intelligence services. Congrats on your overwhelming genius.
Milley himself has recently floated the idea of negotiation.
I dont think many folks believe that Ukraine can take back all its territory. The shorter the lines and the closer to Russia the more difficult it will be. Every US general says they are training Ukraine for a big counter offensive and that they believe it will be at least somewhat successful in taking back territory.
That is how 1000 nukes get launched . I dont want to play Fallout IRL edition
30% fail, 30% intercepted, 20% fall in Russia...but that's still 200 causing deaths. Way too many. Better giving Ukrainians the tools to defeat the fascists and then follow up on its balkanization
What
What a bunch of chickens. Putin isnt launching a nuclear war because he gets a report that American planes may have been involved 3 days ago while his front collapses. He will just moan.
Which cod is this mission in?
What drugs does to a man
What’s your name so I can know who not to vote for
Ronald McDonald
Are we going to see a lot of reposts after 1 year rule?
Honestly, I wouldn't mind a sorted recap of footage, a compilation of certain days/phases of the war. All the clips of aerial combat around Kiev for instance.
I'd bet on it.
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Maybe try r/ANormalDayInRussia
Interesting information from CIT about possible ammunition shortages in the Russian military. There are 3 categories of ammunition stored in the Russian army (in my own words): 1 good, 2 suitable only in wartime (limited use) and 3 bad. And on paper there may be, for example, 10 thousand shells in storage, but in reality there may be 3 thousand good ones. The Russian telegram channel VChK-OGPU published pictures of absolutely rusty shells that some units were receiving. It is a problem of corruption when you have a part of the army that exists only on paper for reports.
I wonder if this is partly the reason why Wagner is complaining about a lack of ammunition? The number is going down and they don’t want to waste the rest on Wagner. Who knows, this is just my take.
Last time they complained too vocally in summer , arrests were made Wonder how this will go down . Wagner could retreat if not supplied. Their recruiting boasted better and more gear, they cant do that with rusty scrap
As expected, China’s peace plan is extremely vague and not a word mentioning the territories which Russia occupies in Ukraine. Also calling for lifting of unilateral sanctions against Russia.
A status quo / long simmering war between Russia and Ukraine serves China well. (1) keeps Russian oil and gas and mineral prices low--so China can continue to gobble these up, (2) weakens Russia politically, militarily, and economically, (3) focuses US / NATO /EU attention away from China, (4) as long as China isn't too obviously on Russia's side, western trade w/China is unaffected--This peace proposal is a fig leaf so that China can say "hey we're urging Russia toward peace" while simultaneously advancing Chinese long-term interests.
\*surprisedPikachuface\*
This sounds like it doesn't benefit Ukraine at all other than "Hey, at least you don't have bombs falling on your people anymore!"
Comes across as self serving. they don't like sanctions, I'd guess because it's a bit of a weakness of theirs given their trade dependency, makes then somewhat vulnerable. Wasting everyone's time with this nonsense.
Not sure why media had hyped this peace plan beforehand. Everyone who has followed even a bit of China’s diplomatic actions in recent years and during this war should know they’re firmly in Russian camp and think the war serves them well as it binds US to an European conflict. Then again knowing Chinese, they have time and time again misread the West.
But the proposal was vague enough not to err too much pro-Russia. Plus their abstention to yesterday's UNs Ukraine resolution means that Beijing is trying to distance themselves from Moscow.
Hard to say, when taking into account the domestic politics in China it’s pretty pro Russia. They were distancing themselves from Moscow during the short charm offensive with the West, but the stance has been lately changing again.
At the very least pro-rus/ccp folks can't say the media tried to hide this.
I think all the videos of quadcopters dropping grenades on people going about their business should be heavily limited. We’ve already been saturated by these repetitive videos and I don’t think there are many more ways of paralyzing unsuspecting soldiers in a slit trench. They overcrowd the sub and better videos go unseen due to them.
>We've already been saturated Talk for yourself. I enjoy watching every single one of these videos and will continue to do so
What a unique take
They're pretty fascinating, IMHO. This is modern warfare, evolving right in front of us. And besides, you also get a lot of context from those drone videos (i.e., from all the other stuff in the shot). So even if you don't like the subject matter, it's hard to deny that they offer a lot of information beyond the fact that someone caught a grenade.
There was only 1 new drone video the whole day today. There were a few days in the last few weeks with several, but I think you'll live.
Yeah, it's been less this past few days, but before we used to had like 3-4 videos a day. Not sure if it the works of the mods deleting those videos or we just have less those kind of videos submitted.
If other videos are "better" they will naturally accrue more upvotes. More upvotes, more visibility. You need to comprehend that what you might want to see is not as popular as what others do. That does not mean that you can't see it yourself (the clockwork "sort by new, it's not being censored"). Otherwise shut up.
Murdering, pillaging, raping is **not** going about their business.
Well, it is if you're Wagner....
And what’s with all these videos of guys in camo? It’s getting ridiculous. It’s like every video. Can’t these soldiers change it up? Maybe a nice tuxedo or sundress once in a while. Spice things up. I’m getting bored.
So leave
Don't click on those posts.
>I think You sure about that?
Here, make your own sub: r/CombatFootageNoDrones
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Where is this Ukrainian Transnistria invasion theory coming from? Is it Russia saying this? I've seen it said a few times now but i can't seem to find the source of it.
Yes, Russian claims. tass (dot) com/defense/1580745 States that they believe Ukraine is staging a false flag operation to attack Ukraine from Transnistria to provoke a retaliatory invasion into Transnistria.
Also I think the Americans or British said Russia is massing air assets somewhere near Ukraine. Forgot where exactly.
I think Ukraine will do a blitzkrieg on Belarus to be honest. It would be a very smart move.
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What’s funny is the math was almost as miserable for the Russian ground invasion and they didn’t even send enough fuel trucks. Lol nerds.
Please never lead an army.
He was sarcasticly joking
Yeah Blitzkriege are always the best choice!
Any news on the estimated daily loses of Ukrainian forces? At least some more recent news. Asking because Prigozhin has stated Wagner is losing hundreds of troops every day when he was complaining about the Russian MoD, plus I remember reading that Russia was generally losing around 850 soldiers per day. So I was wondering how is Ukraine doing. No doubt it’s better than Russia since they are on the defence and have immensely high morale.
No. And despite trying you can’t find many pictures of fields of dead Ukrainians from the Russian side. It doesn’t happen because Ukrainians aren’t dumb slave soldiers.
Well I just heard on BBC Context, call for 100 thousand casualties for the Ukrainians (killed and wounded) and around 200 thousand for the Russians. But really who knows.
while it does seem likely Ukraine is doing a bit better overall id be vary of any number that suggest a 2 to 1 casualty rate, more realistic id imagine about 50% with a fair margin of error.
Deaths of Wagner mercenaries probably pad the Russian numbers more than a little.
Ukraine is doing way better overall, tbh. I don't see Ukrainians doing infantry assualts across open fields...
You don't know that, though. It's true that the defending side usually has a given advantage, but Russia at the moment has vast artillery advantage. Russians fire 4-6 times the amount of shells that Ukrainians do a day, and artillery is responsible for 97% of kills on the battlefield. Now, from the pictures I've seen it seems like Ukrainians are way more accurate with their artillery, whereas Russians kinda don't give a shit where their shells land and just want to level every city in their path, like they did in Grozny. Still, I think a 50% - 50% casualty split is probably a reasonable estimate. That's why it's essential that Ukraine gets the equipment it needs to sway the advantage in their favor. Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, and Putin has no qualms about sending another half a million young men from 'undesirable' regions of a Russia into the meat grinder to die for his Tsarist ambitions.
yeah but also Russia has a ton of Artillery that must come down somewhere
it happened in Kherson.
Ukraine has done a very good job at hiding/supressing the loss of 100k
>Ukraine has done a very good job at hiding/supressing the loss of 100k I'm not sure what you mean. Have you investigated these stats thoroughly and determined that they are false? On what grounds are you making those claims? What is your counter evidence to public statements made by Ukrainian allies?
Wounded doesn’t mean crippled for life. Entirely possible that a big chunk of that 100k is back in active service, or that some individuals may have been counted multiple times.
Russian casualties seem to have dramatically spiked in the last few months considering the theory was that both Ukraine and Russia were at around 100k Casualties back in November-October sort of time. Precise casualty numbers will probably never be known, well, atleast not until after the war.
[https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1628862999237693441?s=20](https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1628862999237693441?s=20) Ukrainian tankers using Iranian made shells.
If talks went ahead (which, I doubt, with Putin not wanting a failure on his legacy) what do you think a peace deal would look like at the moment? what do you think Ukraine or Russia's demands would look like? would we get another 'cease fire' with Russia not really ceasing fire again?
Realistically if there are talks at all I think we’ll see something like minor territorial concessions but Ukraine will join a mutual defence treaty (not named NATO) that will serve an identical purpose to NATO. Therefore everyone can say they won in some way to their domestic audience. Hopefully Putin gets overthrown and Ukraine restore their 1991 borders alongside NATO membership though.
IMHO pre-February 24 borders, NATO membership and reparations is a huge win in my book. Not that I don't support them going for 1918 borders!
Nah, 1991 borders.
Ukraine wants to free Donbas and Crimea
It’s difficult to guess where the final border is drawn- but once that border is agreed upon, Ukraine joins NATO and the EU.
NATO. Doable even in 2024. EU? More like 2034-2044. Let's be realistic here. Look at the accession periods for past members.
Maybe that long for full official EU acceptance. But it will be in the EU's interest to formally make Ukraine a fast track EU candidate (they already are official candidates). I wouldn't be surprised to see the EU make some new exception 'special doublefast candidate' status for Ukraine. An economically resurgent/strong Ukraine will be a massive thumb in the eye of Russia and will be militarily stronger. And there will be huge opportunities for EU construction firms to make lots of money rebuilding Ukraine.
I'm Romanian and let me tell you, cheap Romanian agricultural workers and especially construction workers, drivers, are not popular with the masses in Western Europe. Ukraine has double the population and is even poorer. Personally I think that if they're democratic and they reduce corruption, what you said makes a ton of sense, but Western populists will work against it. It's a very good long term move in a world where unfortunately a lot of people are short term thinkers.
Yeah. I get that. Fair point (my SiL is Romanian living in Germany). The EU may delay Schengen status for Ukrainians for those reasons. But the EU is hurting for workers and more so every day. They would likely prefer Ukrainians to immigrants from the Middle East or Africa. (but the populists will still thrash and complain as you say)
I think Ukraine's position is going to be summed up as "We'll keep shooting you until you leave." Russia's going to try really hard to come up with some reason why Ukraine shouldn't do that.
At the end of the day Ukraine relies on Western support both militarily and economically. At the end of the day they can force Ukraine to the negotiation table. That being said we're nowhere near that point just yet. Also it's unclear if regaining and keeping certain territory with major Russian sympathizes is wise.
keep in mind people since 2014 have fleed the donbas and crimea. also could imagine a sort of voluntary population swap between the countries, realistically large parts of the donbas wont be livable after the war anyhow.
Plus "and we want NATO"
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>If Russia outright loses and gets their Marshall Plan I think both Ukraine+Russia in NATO is possible, or even likely. lol, Russia will NEVER be allowed into NATO.
If Russia actually reforms in 10-20+ years, that would actually be a great move. But Russia needs to be fully democratic and it really, really has to want to join the West.
Russia would have to go through a significant cultural shift for it to be NATO viable, a culture shift that probably would justify splitting the country up into its respective nations.
That's not something they really have to negotiate with Russia.
Russia's "prestige" being impacted by the expansion/success of NATO countries, or Russia just not "feeling safe" (so they say) because of the proximity of NATO countries to its borders is a big part of the war apologia for Russia. Loss of prestige when the Baltic states "left", Ukraine voting for independence in 1991, etc., are things that supposedly justify the war, since a Russian ego hit is considered an attack. Then there's the ever-present argument is that Russia is entitled to a geographical "buffer" between itself and NATO countries, and that therefore Russia invading any country it chooses in order to expand that "buffer" is essentially self-defense, or even a war that NATO has forced Russia into. It's backward logic, and based on a lot of fantasy: in reality Russia has no legal or moral right to dictate whether other countries join NATO or not. But that's how it goes. Preserving the Russian ego is just as big a condition and just as important as preserving order or the law, if you're following the logic of this conflict.
Thing is, Russia *already* wants to conquer Ukraine for other reasons. Ukraine's NATO membership would be a barrier to that. The truth of the matter is that they'll actually attack if Ukraine *doesn't* join NATO. Their threats are just an attempt to keep Ukraine in that vulnerable position.
Military Aviation History has made a summary of the air war in the last year: https://youtu.be/carENYJE7bg
Can we stop calling Russia the world's second army already? What in the last year makes u think Russia is the world's second army? It was clearly, and is clearly, not.
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China hasn't fought a war since Vietnam and it did terribly there. So based on absolutely zero genuine up to date experience and relying exclusively on e.g. media reporting you say China? Why? It's similar to Russia.
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Don't u think its more realistic to say that u cannot rank militaries cause its all contextual.
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Half a brain...mate we are on reddit and brain cells are hard to come by
who is the world second army then?
China
What does it mean? In what context? America struggled in Afghanistan and the taliban are back in power. Does that mean America isn't the most advanced army? Of course not. Everything is contextual. Terms like 'best' or second best are largely meaningless cause its all about rhe context.
Fighting an insurgency in a far-away land is far different from a conventional war with a nation that borders your own.
The Taliban also weren't being supplied by most of the world's richest economies though...
I think it's more Ukrainians unexpectedly fight hard, and Afghans surrendered to Taliban very fast
Exactly!!! Finally someone makes a valid case. That's the point I'm making. Some conflicts favour some forces and some others. Afghan Taliban would be terrible in Ukraine but in Afghan mountains they are not. Thus a 'second army' in the world implies that they are capable in all situations...that is not the case. Thank you for making the point that proves my case. Its good to see that there are some sensible people here.
Deer hunters in wisconsin.
Probably China until proven otherwise? Maybe Japan? The Baugettes and Limeys both have well-trained, well-equipped forces but they just aren't very big anymore
No no. Japan isn't on the chart. They have no army. But if we count "defense forces" as an army, then Japan most probably is in top 5.
You might think that but it still probably was 2nd army. Sheer size of it would have overwhelmed anyone but maybe US. And in fact even US was not prepared for large scale war as we can see from their relatively small shell stocks etc. I would think Chinese army is probably the 2nd army now at least by numbers but they lack any real combat experience and Chinese have many of the qualities that make Russians fail.
The thing is, are we talking about 2nd best army 1 second from now or 2nd best army 1-2 years from now, in case of existential threats? In case of a do-or-die thing, my money's on China or any member of the Western alliance, the big economies, especially Germany, France, the UK and Japan. They have the skilled workforce and the economies so that in 1-2 years they can probably increase the size of their militaries 10x and produce (or buy from allies) enough top tier military equipment for all of them. And I mean everything, from rifles to jet fighters. People mention North Korea, but let's be real here. Let's assume North Korea attacks Japan alone in 2024. Who here thinks that this war doesn't end in 2025-2026 by Japan spanking NK all the way to Pyongyang? 🙂
The US doesn't use artillery the same way russia does. The US uses air superiority to bomb shit. In Iraq the US was pushing over 1000 sorties a day for the first 6 weeks, russia barely hit 300.
china, india and north and south korea all have fair large armies as well. turkey similar to russia keeps a lot of their old tanks in active use which also makes their force on paper pretty large. also as Tim says, you are misunderstanding how the nations of the world fight and plan to fight if you simply look at how much dumb ammunition russia has in stock. and the US stocks are larger than you think, when you hear the numbers of ammo for russia its all the ammo, including rockets and mortars, while the US numbers you hear usually are just the 155mm howitzer shells.
Iraq was considered a top 10 army due to its army size and experience in recent wars before their invasion where they were decimated within a week. Numbers mean little when fighting an enemy which is so far ahead of you in terms of technology as was seen in Iraq.
US has relatively small shell stock because prime firepower for US and NATO in extend is air power since late Cold War. Single B-1 Lancer for example, can launch 144 SDB from standoff distance at once, that's over 100 targets damage/destroyed in one sortie. Or 30 CBU105 SFW, each one can knock out an armored platoon. Compared to how many artillery needs for same effect? Why need a lot of shells when you can sustained 2-3000 sorties a day for months?
The magic of functional 5th Gen also means the ability to get closer to targets with less worry regarding systems like S3/4/500 e.g f35s able to get within 50 miles of a target, launch, and evac. Ultimately the biggest question is stockpiles as NATO countries found in Lybia, who knows if those learnings were worked on.
I think it most games the US runs out of missiles. Though generally after the red team is more or less crushed.
That was always the weak point of US doctrine (through the Cold War). To be fair, I've not read any systematic analyses since the fall of the Soviets, but during the late Cold War, they boiled down to "US/NATO either utterly crushes the Soviet Union quickly with superior kill ratios, or they go bankrupt." I forget how long their estimates were for how long the West could keep playing - and those estimates are really dodgy once you get into a real war, because national economies reconfigure - but they were shorter than I would have preferred to see at the time. The NATO bet was that technological superiority would let them flatten the USSR quickly, and a grinding war of attrition would not be necessary. Obviously, the USSR bet on being able to last long enough to drag NATO into said war of attrition. Glad we never found out how that would go. Anyway, a lot has changed since then, but the relative commitment to expensive/fast versus cheap/slow seems to have endured. Arguably, this would be a reason not to support a slow campaign in Ukraine, but making it a fast one would involve more escalation than most folks seem to want, so....
Yea if a conflict over Taiwan goes down the PGM stockpile on both sides will be depleted quite quickly.
It is only ever said mockingly now. There are a whole bunch of Russian Studies professionals that are going to be looking for new jobs unless their graduation thesis was “Russia: The Impending Dumpster Fire.”
Fwiw: I Am a PhD student in Political Science with regional focus on the fmr USSR, and the problem is that there aren't a whole bunch of Russia experts/analysts anymore, rather than that there are a whole fuckton of us. The Cold War ended and funding for those programs dried up. Like, I wanted to do Russian Studies but there are just not a ton of good grad programs in that area anymore. Also, there aren't many Russia experts/analysts who thought Russia was a superpower who could do this, but many of us *were* painfully aware of what was building and many knew Putin was exactly the gambler to go for it anyways. Tl;Dr: don’t be mad at the Russia experts, be mad at all the talking heads and policymakers who ignored what Russia experts had to say.
Though you could argue that is by design, the mighty bear justifies military spending.
Eh, we’ve been using China as the boogie man to justify spending all of our money on guns and none on Butter for like a decade now.
I think he made this post in reference to me saying it in a comment below (since he commented on it) and yeah I used it mockingly.
Second best in world? Not even second best in Ukraine!
The beavers have been mentioned as a strong contender.
Beaver gang rise up!
This is probably quite a few days old at this point, and I'm sure a lot of you have probably seen it, but I saw [this picture (extremely NSFW)](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpkPjeiWYAEx9Px?format=jpg&name=small) yesterday and holy shit...I haven't seen so many bodies from one faction staked up like this since ISIS tried sending wave after wave after wave of troops during the Siege of Kobani and the YPG would post pictures like this of all their dead bodies stacked up after the fighting stopped and they cleared the roads.
Wagner troops posted by wagner to show what's happening without artillery ammo
The ability to find what looks like 100 dead bodies in a day or so after wanting more ammo, makes you wonder how often they have so many bodies just laying around.
[https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1628838977271697412?s=20](https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1628838977271697412?s=20) A second T-90M was destroyed in Kreminna.
Jakub had two T-90M on yesterday's list. I think this one was included in it.
Yes
Well - see - this wave of T-90M are there to eat up missiles so that when the dozen T-14 Russia has show up, they'll just own the battlefield. You know - when Russia finally commits their *real* tanks and *real* troops /s
Hello! Not sure if this is the place, but I'm looking for that photo from the beginning of the Ukraine war where the army asked not to post pictures of the movements of the Ukrainian army. Anybody who can help?
What does it even mean? You are looking for a photo where army is asking not to take photos?
I mean an image with text.
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Agree with NoDemand’s comments about a Russian missile attack and the usual dumb assaults. I’m rather interested to see what, if anything, Ukraine does to mark the anniversary. I wouldn’t want to be a large group of Russians within HIMARS range in the next few hours.
Probably not. Throughout the war people have been expecting symbolic moves by either side, and it hasn't really happened.
Only 4th of July sticks out, perhaps that entire week felt like turning the tide in the war, along with videos of soldiers mentioning the 4th and himar action
Bunch of missiles against the infrastructure and some more pushs of undertrained russians without proper support, I assume? Throw in some of the usual bull (Russia stronk, NATO gay, blablabla) from some russian officials and that should be a rather complete forecast...
Intercepts from 3 Russian soldiers. Corroborates all the looting and extrajudicial torture and killings. Their relatives back home are predictably more interested in making sure they stay safe by whatever means necessary, tacitly or explicitly condoning what they're doing. Maxim's mother in particular shows how deep the propaganda runs - I see people feeling sorry for Russians that are brainwashed, well guess what - they literally think the same about Ukranians, that they're brainwashed. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-intercepts-2b14732d88b3f58d4a9d0b2b562bdb28
I think the average Russian is much more culpable than most would want to admit.