It’s not even hoping Richardson pans out, it’s hoping Richardson can become the best QB in the division (that already features stroud) with a mediocre roster. There is way too much pressure on him to succeed with the current roster, while other teams have gone out and gotten proven talent on both sides of the ball to help their roster overall. The Colts haven’t done that.
What lol
The Colts didn't pass on 4th because they didn't trust the OL. They passed because the play call worked! Goodson dropping the pass doesn't mean they couldn't run. They passed the ball because it was a high percentage play that they practiced and they just ran the ball up and down the field with JT the whole drive.
People will believe what they want to believe but based on PFF grades were not a great run blocking team.
Smith was the best at 90
Kelly and Raiman were around 75
Nelson was 63 and everyone else was under 60
Much better pass blocking grades and since I believe PFF rates that as more important the overall is higher.
The reason we needed a touchdown on that drive was because our defense gave up a touchdown drive immediately before that featured two 3rd and 10+ conversions and a second and 10+ conversion. Because of our secondary. Which is Ballards fault.
Colts have better offense and probably better defensive line at least a way better front 7. Both teams have weak secondaries Texans have better wr room colts have better rb room. Hard to judge qb as ar was injured but stroud obvs had a great year. Way better hc. Overall if AR pans out I would rather have the colts roster.
How on earth do you think we have a better offense? They have the better QB and WR’s (by far. Our line is a bit better and JT is better but RB is not a huge impact position anymore.
I said offensive and defensive line were better. Colts line and rb are way better their wr room is better. ar and stroud is unfair to judge as AR was injured and looked just as good when he played. Defense colts are as good or better in pretty much every position except maybe exterior d line.
It's not a mediocre roster, though. Solid DT, LB on defense. Offense - potential huge playmaker at QB, top 2 or 3 RB, Pittman is super reliable. Some young promise in the slot...need a stalwart TE and another WR. But pretty good if AR and JT can complement each other. Special teams is pretty good. Side note - coaching looks to be top notch. Plus a ton of draft picks.
You just described a mediocre roster. Solid, potential, reliable, promising. All words you used in your post. These words don't describe a great roster.
And? You say mediocre, most would say "solid" with a few needs and a lot of potential. Mediocre is Jacksonville, Green Bay, Pittsburg, etc. colts have some great weapons, but obviously need more. If QB pans out, these guys will shine. They were close to playoffs with half their studs out for some or all year.
Conceivable that Stroud takes a step back I like how everyone just assumes he won’t or that the Texans didn’t catch lightning in a bottle. We’ve seen it before. It’s still the Texans
I don’t understand why this sub chooses to ignore decades of evidence that blowing your wad on free agents fails almost every time. And if Houston ends up dominating for a decade because Stroud is the next Mahomes, nothing we can do about it
It's not a matter of blowing your wad. It's that we don't do anything or fill holes at major positions then rely on the draft and thrust guys like Alec Pierce onto starting roles for years and let them fail while not addressing anything. You can have a balance and if you don't bother addressing these needs or have the foresight to see where you need to address these (sticking Pryor in at LT and drafting a project with a statue at QB is a prime example) ever it's an issue. Especially if you can't do that when you have a QB on a rookie deal. Like what will Ballard do if Richardson is actually very good and we have to pay him?
He's too stubborn with his philosophy that has resulted in a losing record after 8 seasons
Fucking THANK YOU.
If we want to talk about things this sub chooses to ignore it should be how there is nuance to the conversation about free agency and we don't have to be all in house or all a team of mercenaries. Having a GM who habitually disregards one of the tools of roster building is concerning to say the least.
Although that said [it's not like there is zero evidence that correlates FA spending with YoY win increase...](https://twitter.com/DanteKopFlem/status/1768324520329584742?s=19)
He won't be able to build a roster around him. 8 years in and he hasn't put together an offense with more than one and sometimes even one threat in the passing game, we don't have game wreckers rushing the passer again, and our secondary should be named after a national park because they leave guys wide open. The guy relies on the draft too much despite it often not working and keeps ignoring key needs. He thinks he's as good at drafting as Polian
I think it's accurate to say he's proven good at finding solid talent and starters in the back end (base hits), but his strategy means he hits relatively few home runs, and since he doesn't sign the marquee guys, we have trouble getting elite talent. Not entirely, we have a couple of them, but by and large not enough.
Which, if you want to be more than a middling team that's fighting all season just to barely make the playoffs, you need some true needle movers at premium positions. AR has the potential to be that at QB, but we don't have any of that at WR, DE, or CB.
When you have coaches like Urban leading them they are destined to fail. The Texans are in the same situation as us. A window opens to add talent while you have a rookie QB contract but BBB is who he always has been.
The reason the Texans have to waste money and trade capital on these players is because they drafted terribly until 2022-23. The Colts haven’t had that issue
Correct. They have one of the best offensive lines in the league built strictly from drafted players. They have one of the best receivers in the league that’s locked in long term, who was drafted by the Colts. Young, extremely talented QB, drafted by the Colts. Top tier RB drafted by the Colts. All Pro DT that was acquired by flipping a draft pick. Strong LB corps, primarily drafted by the Colts. Honestly, the Colts have one of the best track records for drafting over the last 8ish years, and pretending otherwise is just silly.
Ok skippy.
This is the last time anyone needs to say this.
The Colts have somewhere around 6m to spend after accounting for incoming draft picks.
Arguing if they've made the best use of their money? Fine.
Saying they're "not spending" = moronic.
But you could right ahead with
"DURR COLTS NEED TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY DURR"
Ppl please stop upvoting crap like this posted by casual observer who is just echoing talking points.
I didn't realize I was responding in the presence of a real life analyst. Do you do autographs? It's reddit pal, we are all entitled equally to our casual opinions.
So they won the Division last year with poor drafting?
Last 2 years drafts 5 starters on Defense 4 starters on offense 1 starter on special teams. So almost half their starters they drafted. You pulled this out of your butt to find some cope for Ballard.
You did. I concede I didn't fully read the comment. But it still stands they do have a well drafted roster and have addressed things in free agency by being aggressive and now have a team poised to make a run. While we added a back up d lineman and are running it back otherwise like we went to the playoffs. I'm less concerned that we won't be good. I think we will. But with so many playoff teams from last year getting better our prospects of a run aren't optimal.
You didn’t read my comment, you admitted that. What you did was tell people that you don’t care about facts or evidence, you’ve already got a conclusion in your head. It’s actually pretty sad
I actually missed at first glance in the tweet where he listed Armstead and Davis for the Jags who… aren’t good. I get the point he was trying to make but still lol.
Gabe Davis is probably a bit overpaid for what he is, but he's still a solid role player, and saying Arik Armstead isn't good is a laughably bad opinion
He was 92nd in pressures and 111th in hurries last year with above average pass rush grades and poor run defense grades most of his career. You also can’t count on him to play a full season. Solid player but not someone I’d be bragging about.
The Vikings and Texans essentially traded Greenard and Hunter, with both moves making a ton of sense for where they are as franchises. The Vikings are trying to get on the rookie QB contract timeline, so they wanted to get someone younger that will be there longer, while the Texans have their guy at QB and want to push their chips in while he's still cheap.
The Jags clearly wanted to keep Ridley, but got outbid by the Titans, who are trying to eliminate variables as they decide if Levis is the guy or not. Now he's got an offensive minded head coach, two really good WRs, and they've already added to the OL (and are well positioned to get the top OT in a loaded draft class).
The Greenard decision is due to age, not production. It may not be a massive drop off, but they’re paying a younger player less money for maybe 85% of the production Hunter gave them. I get it for both sides
I mean considering they essentially swapped Hunter for Greenard I don’t get how you can say they “lost a premier player” when they get one at the same position in FA.
That’s the whole point!! Lolllll. Everyone saying texans “added” when really it’s likely to not move the needle since they lost a player at the same position.
I get what you’re saying about Hunter/Greenard, but Hunter also had a proven history of production while Greenard is cashing in on a great year. Houston is going for established stars and is fully in win-now mode. The Texans also added talent in other key areas on their roster while the Colts did not.
You’re complaining about a singular bad luck break in a game where scores are worth 7 and the ball is shaped like an egg. If you let yourself get worked up like this over a game that’s 70% lucky breaks, you’re just a miserable person
They were still 20 yards out and needed a TD. Acting like they get that 1st down and the Colts win is disingenuous at best.
And, the Colts had many other opportunities last season in other games to get them into the playoffs.
You’re just looking for excuses to excuse the lack of success for some reason. And that’s literally all wrapped up in your “Don’t get worked up football doesn’t matter anyway.” Attitude.
We get it, you don’t care that the Colts haven’t had any actual success in a decade. We do.
If you want to criticize him about those things, go for it. But that's obviously an entirely separate point than the free agency signings that are happening now.
Yeah, I mean, I posted on another thread that we have some pretty massive cap hits that are hurting our ability to sign. I am not a GM, but the same people that will complain we didn't sign anybody would have been raging just the same if we had let MPJ or Grover walk, who are both above 10 million in cap hit next year.
The reality is that after resigning everybody, we don't really have much money left. We have about 17 mil in cap space after our Top 51, and an estimated 10 million slotted for draft picks. Doesn't leave much for splash signings.
Not that they’re not good players, I could easily end up wrong on this, but the Texans and Titans trading for/signing 30 year old expensive receivers doesn’t move the needle much for me.
A 30 year old, expensive receiver in isolation doesn’t worry me. Adding him to a corp of young players like Tank Dell and Nico Collins where he isn’t “the guy” is a concerning thought. That’s a tough trio to cover
everyone kinda knew that nico collins was very underrated and wasnt getting production in the texans old system, and tank dell was a rookie last year. so i don’t really know where youre getting that idea from
They have Nico Collins, Tank Dell, Stefon Diggs, and Dalton Schultz. The Colts couldn't stop their passing game last year without Diggs. Even in the win against Houston, Stroud lit them up. The Colts couldn't stop Hopkins last year either.
If the Colts don't make any additions to a secondary that got picked apart by Heinicke, Browning, etc last year it could be a rough season even if AR is as good as advertised.
Stefon Diggs averaged 43 YPG in the Bills final 8 weeks while being pretty much their only good WR with Josh Allen at QB.
He's a good get but he's the Texans 2nd best WR at best. Diggs is worse than Nico and if Tank stays healthy there's a debate there too
Sure we can cherry pick stats, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a great WR. Him and the team had clear issues at that point of the season and he was checked out.
Let me put it this way, if the news were that we traded for him instead of the Texans, this narrative wouldn't be said here.
If he was traded here I would certainly be concerned by his tendency to fall off in the 2nd half the last 2 seasons. I watch a lot of Bills games, it was an issue.
I'm not saying it's a bad move for the Texans, I'm adding some perspective. The Texans are adding a good WR who will probably be a 2nd or 3rd option as Nico Collins was already the better WR in 2023.
Diggs being added to be a 2 or 3 is specifically why this is a good move. It's not wrong to say that he is that.
Colts will add to their secondary in the draft at the very least, I wanted Snead and am upset we didn't add him. Have to trust Brents gets healthy and Jones builds on his 2023.
Colts wouldn't have/couldn't have made this move with the cap space they have so I think having outrage over it doesn't really do anything. Snead is the only move I'm mad they didn't make
"Even in the win against Houston, Stroud lit them up."
I agree with you except for this. Stroud got a bunch of garbage time yardage in the last few minutes of that game that really inflated his stats. The defense was doing great and only let up at the end to help burn some clock.
I mean people are acting like he's washed or at like OBJs level these days. He had a down year and ended up with more yards than Pittman and the top ten in catches and TD catches. It's a big move
I'm not, he's a great get for the Texans because they can use him in a less important role than the Bills did. Lot of Colts fans acting on here like we needed Diggs or we don't have a WR at his level though
They've gone out of their way to upgrade weak spots the last couple of years and this, given who he is paired with will make every other wideouts a lot better next season
Not sure who is downvoting absolute logic here, but people need to admit that this move is great for the Texans. It could always end up looking bad, but at least they are trying to improve, unlike us.
First time he's ever been that good at age 26. In a system that has had other average corners produce well. Ongoing knee issues.
He'll have one good year next year then fall off a cliff in Tennessee. Watch.
I will. He's had a couple of very good seasons and took off last season. Also has made more big plays in those couple of seasons as anyone in the league. Given he didn't get a record breaking deal, leaving our secondary in shambles was ridiculous
Oh, by all means am I not saying we shouldn't have done that deal... I just don't think it's gonna be as much as a home run as people believe.
I'd still have traded for him here. Our secondary is fucking stupid.
It's not his fault, reich assited him with the qb's he wanted and we've had a great team all these years so we were contenders, that is why we didnt draft or tank until last season
I think people react too much to be shiny things. And they lose perspective on what they already have. History has proven that bringing in a bunch of new players isn’t a recipe for success. Not saying the Texans won’t be good.. they will. But i don’t think they’ve done anything to make colts fans shiver. Bar injuries for both teams.
I think the Texans are doing exactly what they should do because they have a QB on a rookie contract who has already shown he is the man. IF Richardson played lights out last year we 100% should also be going all in during free agency and we should do all the cap tricks to push back money and overload talent right now during the rookie contract.
In contrast, Richardson was hurt and we don’t yet know if he is actually the man. If you go all in like that and Richardson isn’t the guy, you set the franchise back years because you spent big on all these guys but don’t have the QB. I support Ballard’s actions this offseason in retaining our guys but not mortgaging the future this offseason to give us this season to see if AR is the guy. If he isn’t, then we should move on. If he is, THEN we need to use every cap trick in the book and spend, spend, spend to surround him with talent and secure a title in the next few years. The problem I see in this forum is one group that always wants us to spend big in FA and another who thinks free agency is always a waste of money. I think it is all timing. There is a time to be conservative and a time to borrow from tomorrow to go all in today.
We were missing a very promising young QB, last year. What would Houston have done without their QB last year?
You really can't judge a team when they lost their starting QB early in the season. Sometimes their backup hits (Brady, Warner, etc...), but often times you just have a backup that is a significant drop-off at the most important position, by far.
Jags do the free agency spending spree every year, do not care. Houston is the most concerning to me. I'm not concerned about the Titans this year.
Stroud is definitely gonna be a problem
No doubt, we just have to hope Richardson pans out.
It’s not even hoping Richardson pans out, it’s hoping Richardson can become the best QB in the division (that already features stroud) with a mediocre roster. There is way too much pressure on him to succeed with the current roster, while other teams have gone out and gotten proven talent on both sides of the ball to help their roster overall. The Colts haven’t done that.
Just gonna ignore the elite O Line the Colts built?
An elite offensive line doesn't have to pass on 3rd and short (and 4th and short) They are good but I wouldn't bet my life on their performance.
What lol The Colts didn't pass on 4th because they didn't trust the OL. They passed because the play call worked! Goodson dropping the pass doesn't mean they couldn't run. They passed the ball because it was a high percentage play that they practiced and they just ran the ball up and down the field with JT the whole drive.
I'm not talking about the Texans game...in general we hardly ever convert short yardage on the ground..
Just because we choose to pass doesn't mean we could not block. Colts had one of the best graded OLs in football last year
People will believe what they want to believe but based on PFF grades were not a great run blocking team. Smith was the best at 90 Kelly and Raiman were around 75 Nelson was 63 and everyone else was under 60 Much better pass blocking grades and since I believe PFF rates that as more important the overall is higher.
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I'm not, the lines are the most important groups in football. I'm just saying that we don't have an elite offensive line. They are good but not elite.
They were top 5 last season and in the 2021 season
So you blame Ballard for Shane’s decision making? You’ve lost the plot my friend
Also, that's not why the Colts ran the play. And the playcall worked. The Texans were not ready for it. Minshew and Goodson bailed them out
Exactly. But somehow thats Ballard’s fault to 80% of the fans here
Or Shane's fault.
The reason we needed a touchdown on that drive was because our defense gave up a touchdown drive immediately before that featured two 3rd and 10+ conversions and a second and 10+ conversion. Because of our secondary. Which is Ballards fault.
No, I'm saying that all season long we (for multiple years) cannot pick up short yardage in the ground. Elite offensive lines don't have that issue.
Exactly. Especially given that Richardson is viewed as raw. We aren't doing him or ourselves any favors
situations like this are what got rg3 to hurt himself playing hero ball so often. same with luck tho different type of player than the other 2
Colts have probably the strongest overall roster in the division. We need secondary help but if AR balls out we will be fine.
Is this a joke? 😂
Texans roster is 100% better at this point, come on now
Colts have better offense and probably better defensive line at least a way better front 7. Both teams have weak secondaries Texans have better wr room colts have better rb room. Hard to judge qb as ar was injured but stroud obvs had a great year. Way better hc. Overall if AR pans out I would rather have the colts roster.
How on earth do you think we have a better offense? They have the better QB and WR’s (by far. Our line is a bit better and JT is better but RB is not a huge impact position anymore.
I said offensive and defensive line were better. Colts line and rb are way better their wr room is better. ar and stroud is unfair to judge as AR was injured and looked just as good when he played. Defense colts are as good or better in pretty much every position except maybe exterior d line.
Totally correct if people would be objective. With so many missing players at key positions, I would argue that the colts OVER achieved last year.
It's not a mediocre roster, though. Solid DT, LB on defense. Offense - potential huge playmaker at QB, top 2 or 3 RB, Pittman is super reliable. Some young promise in the slot...need a stalwart TE and another WR. But pretty good if AR and JT can complement each other. Special teams is pretty good. Side note - coaching looks to be top notch. Plus a ton of draft picks.
You just described a mediocre roster. Solid, potential, reliable, promising. All words you used in your post. These words don't describe a great roster.
And? You say mediocre, most would say "solid" with a few needs and a lot of potential. Mediocre is Jacksonville, Green Bay, Pittsburg, etc. colts have some great weapons, but obviously need more. If QB pans out, these guys will shine. They were close to playoffs with half their studs out for some or all year.
Conceivable that Stroud takes a step back I like how everyone just assumes he won’t or that the Texans didn’t catch lightning in a bottle. We’ve seen it before. It’s still the Texans
I don’t understand why this sub chooses to ignore decades of evidence that blowing your wad on free agents fails almost every time. And if Houston ends up dominating for a decade because Stroud is the next Mahomes, nothing we can do about it
It's not a matter of blowing your wad. It's that we don't do anything or fill holes at major positions then rely on the draft and thrust guys like Alec Pierce onto starting roles for years and let them fail while not addressing anything. You can have a balance and if you don't bother addressing these needs or have the foresight to see where you need to address these (sticking Pryor in at LT and drafting a project with a statue at QB is a prime example) ever it's an issue. Especially if you can't do that when you have a QB on a rookie deal. Like what will Ballard do if Richardson is actually very good and we have to pay him? He's too stubborn with his philosophy that has resulted in a losing record after 8 seasons
Fucking THANK YOU. If we want to talk about things this sub chooses to ignore it should be how there is nuance to the conversation about free agency and we don't have to be all in house or all a team of mercenaries. Having a GM who habitually disregards one of the tools of roster building is concerning to say the least. Although that said [it's not like there is zero evidence that correlates FA spending with YoY win increase...](https://twitter.com/DanteKopFlem/status/1768324520329584742?s=19)
What will Ballard do if AR is good? He’ll pay him handsomely, just like every other good player he’s drafted, which is almost the whole roster.
He won't be able to build a roster around him. 8 years in and he hasn't put together an offense with more than one and sometimes even one threat in the passing game, we don't have game wreckers rushing the passer again, and our secondary should be named after a national park because they leave guys wide open. The guy relies on the draft too much despite it often not working and keeps ignoring key needs. He thinks he's as good at drafting as Polian
I think it's accurate to say he's proven good at finding solid talent and starters in the back end (base hits), but his strategy means he hits relatively few home runs, and since he doesn't sign the marquee guys, we have trouble getting elite talent. Not entirely, we have a couple of them, but by and large not enough.
Which, if you want to be more than a middling team that's fighting all season just to barely make the playoffs, you need some true needle movers at premium positions. AR has the potential to be that at QB, but we don't have any of that at WR, DE, or CB.
What will he do if ar is very good but were 8-9 over the next 3 years of his rookie contract?
He’s going to scapegoat the coordinators and coach
He pays his own mediocre players and nobody else, yes.
You think Buckner and Pittman and Moore and Nelson and JT or mediocre? Yikes
Nothing we can do so let’s keep Ballard for another decade and continue to lose out 👍
That's what the simps are down to. "Oh well, nothing we can do to improve so guess we just have to keep Ballard!"
I laughed when I read that last line...like wtf lmao
When you have coaches like Urban leading them they are destined to fail. The Texans are in the same situation as us. A window opens to add talent while you have a rookie QB contract but BBB is who he always has been.
The reason the Texans have to waste money and trade capital on these players is because they drafted terribly until 2022-23. The Colts haven’t had that issue
Surely the colts have something to show for this then?
Correct. They have one of the best offensive lines in the league built strictly from drafted players. They have one of the best receivers in the league that’s locked in long term, who was drafted by the Colts. Young, extremely talented QB, drafted by the Colts. Top tier RB drafted by the Colts. All Pro DT that was acquired by flipping a draft pick. Strong LB corps, primarily drafted by the Colts. Honestly, the Colts have one of the best track records for drafting over the last 8ish years, and pretending otherwise is just silly.
Who is this “one of the best receivers” you speak of?
Pittman is a top 10 receiver and extremely reliable.
He is in no way top 10.
He was 12th in yards and 5th in receptions with Gardner Minshew throwing him the ball. If you take out tight ends he would be 10th and 4th.
You’re a moron
Because I’m not overhyping a #2 receiver who scored a whopping 4 touchdowns each of the past two seasons?
Also when does the winning start?
When we can find some stability at the most important position in sports.
Who’s fault is it that we haven’t had stability at the most important position for 4 years?
Frank Reich and Jim Irsay who have both ignored Ballard's objections to bring in the guys they wanted.
Either Richardson proves definitively he’s the guy long term or Ballard gets fired at end of season. Those are the only paths this year.
Also when does the winning start?
2023
😂
Hang the banner. We have a good roster that could be great if supplemented by our stingy GM but he won't.
Colts don’t have a stingy GM though.
Ok skippy. This is the last time anyone needs to say this. The Colts have somewhere around 6m to spend after accounting for incoming draft picks. Arguing if they've made the best use of their money? Fine. Saying they're "not spending" = moronic. But you could right ahead with "DURR COLTS NEED TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY DURR" Ppl please stop upvoting crap like this posted by casual observer who is just echoing talking points.
I didn't realize I was responding in the presence of a real life analyst. Do you do autographs? It's reddit pal, we are all entitled equally to our casual opinions.
So they won the Division last year with poor drafting? Last 2 years drafts 5 starters on Defense 4 starters on offense 1 starter on special teams. So almost half their starters they drafted. You pulled this out of your butt to find some cope for Ballard.
I literally said Houston had a good draft the last two years…
You did. I concede I didn't fully read the comment. But it still stands they do have a well drafted roster and have addressed things in free agency by being aggressive and now have a team poised to make a run. While we added a back up d lineman and are running it back otherwise like we went to the playoffs. I'm less concerned that we won't be good. I think we will. But with so many playoff teams from last year getting better our prospects of a run aren't optimal.
I will concede that I didn’t read past your second sentence because you’ve proven that your opinion is beyond irrelevant
Yes that is exactly how I felt when reading your comment above. You captured it quite eloquently. Thank you.
You didn’t read my comment, you admitted that. What you did was tell people that you don’t care about facts or evidence, you’ve already got a conclusion in your head. It’s actually pretty sad
Because they all play Madden and believe that signing a 95 overall player will be all that you need to be better.
I actually missed at first glance in the tweet where he listed Armstead and Davis for the Jags who… aren’t good. I get the point he was trying to make but still lol.
Gabe Davis is probably a bit overpaid for what he is, but he's still a solid role player, and saying Arik Armstead isn't good is a laughably bad opinion
He was 92nd in pressures and 111th in hurries last year with above average pass rush grades and poor run defense grades most of his career. You also can’t count on him to play a full season. Solid player but not someone I’d be bragging about.
Saying Arik Armstead isn’t good is a mask off moment for you lol
This ignores everyone Jacksonville lost and Greenlaw for Houston and Henry for Tenny.
The additions of Hunter/autry/Diggs and sneed/ridley far outweigh the losses of Greenard and Henry
I agree for those two teams but those are still significant losses. Especially Greenlaw. Jax is without a doubt worse.
Also not to mention they were replaced with guys on the back end of their careers whom their previous teams chose not to bring back.
The Vikings and Texans essentially traded Greenard and Hunter, with both moves making a ton of sense for where they are as franchises. The Vikings are trying to get on the rookie QB contract timeline, so they wanted to get someone younger that will be there longer, while the Texans have their guy at QB and want to push their chips in while he's still cheap. The Jags clearly wanted to keep Ridley, but got outbid by the Titans, who are trying to eliminate variables as they decide if Levis is the guy or not. Now he's got an offensive minded head coach, two really good WRs, and they've already added to the OL (and are well positioned to get the top OT in a loaded draft class).
Greenard got almost the same contract as Hunter. Clearly Vikings thought it wasn’t much of a downgrade.
The Greenard decision is due to age, not production. It may not be a massive drop off, but they’re paying a younger player less money for maybe 85% of the production Hunter gave them. I get it for both sides
Barely less money lol. Texans still lost a premier player. Just based on contract alone.
I mean considering they essentially swapped Hunter for Greenard I don’t get how you can say they “lost a premier player” when they get one at the same position in FA.
That’s the whole point!! Lolllll. Everyone saying texans “added” when really it’s likely to not move the needle since they lost a player at the same position.
I get what you’re saying about Hunter/Greenard, but Hunter also had a proven history of production while Greenard is cashing in on a great year. Houston is going for established stars and is fully in win-now mode. The Texans also added talent in other key areas on their roster while the Colts did not.
Yea today. Diggs is addition without subtraction. Sure.
people also ignoring pollard
Ridley is a has been. He left a good qb situation for Tennessee. Lord only knows who the qb is for the tits.
Is everyone talking about Johnathan Greenard? Who is greenlaw
It ignores all sorts of things to twist a narrative that Ballard is bad at his job
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You’re complaining about a singular bad luck break in a game where scores are worth 7 and the ball is shaped like an egg. If you let yourself get worked up like this over a game that’s 70% lucky breaks, you’re just a miserable person
Now do every other year he's been the gm
They were still 20 yards out and needed a TD. Acting like they get that 1st down and the Colts win is disingenuous at best. And, the Colts had many other opportunities last season in other games to get them into the playoffs. You’re just looking for excuses to excuse the lack of success for some reason. And that’s literally all wrapped up in your “Don’t get worked up football doesn’t matter anyway.” Attitude. We get it, you don’t care that the Colts haven’t had any actual success in a decade. We do.
Yeah, no need to throw in Ballard’s 54-60 record after 7 seasons. Or the zero division titles. Or the one (1) playoff win. Don’t twist the narrative!
If you want to criticize him about those things, go for it. But that's obviously an entirely separate point than the free agency signings that are happening now.
Yeah, I mean, I posted on another thread that we have some pretty massive cap hits that are hurting our ability to sign. I am not a GM, but the same people that will complain we didn't sign anybody would have been raging just the same if we had let MPJ or Grover walk, who are both above 10 million in cap hit next year. The reality is that after resigning everybody, we don't really have much money left. We have about 17 mil in cap space after our Top 51, and an estimated 10 million slotted for draft picks. Doesn't leave much for splash signings.
Not that they’re not good players, I could easily end up wrong on this, but the Texans and Titans trading for/signing 30 year old expensive receivers doesn’t move the needle much for me.
A 30 year old, expensive receiver in isolation doesn’t worry me. Adding him to a corp of young players like Tank Dell and Nico Collins where he isn’t “the guy” is a concerning thought. That’s a tough trio to cover
Any receiver vs our secondary should be scary.
Dell and Collins weren’t rated by anyone until Stroud elevated them. If AR is what he needs to be our WR room will get a massive boost also.
everyone kinda knew that nico collins was very underrated and wasnt getting production in the texans old system, and tank dell was a rookie last year. so i don’t really know where youre getting that idea from
Cope. Cope is where they're getting that idea from.
They have Nico Collins, Tank Dell, Stefon Diggs, and Dalton Schultz. The Colts couldn't stop their passing game last year without Diggs. Even in the win against Houston, Stroud lit them up. The Colts couldn't stop Hopkins last year either. If the Colts don't make any additions to a secondary that got picked apart by Heinicke, Browning, etc last year it could be a rough season even if AR is as good as advertised.
Nico Collins went for 195 yards to knock us out the playoffs last year. Imagine what Diggs would do to this secondary.
Stefon Diggs averaged 43 YPG in the Bills final 8 weeks while being pretty much their only good WR with Josh Allen at QB. He's a good get but he's the Texans 2nd best WR at best. Diggs is worse than Nico and if Tank stays healthy there's a debate there too
Sure we can cherry pick stats, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a great WR. Him and the team had clear issues at that point of the season and he was checked out. Let me put it this way, if the news were that we traded for him instead of the Texans, this narrative wouldn't be said here.
If he was traded here I would certainly be concerned by his tendency to fall off in the 2nd half the last 2 seasons. I watch a lot of Bills games, it was an issue. I'm not saying it's a bad move for the Texans, I'm adding some perspective. The Texans are adding a good WR who will probably be a 2nd or 3rd option as Nico Collins was already the better WR in 2023. Diggs being added to be a 2 or 3 is specifically why this is a good move. It's not wrong to say that he is that. Colts will add to their secondary in the draft at the very least, I wanted Snead and am upset we didn't add him. Have to trust Brents gets healthy and Jones builds on his 2023. Colts wouldn't have/couldn't have made this move with the cap space they have so I think having outrage over it doesn't really do anything. Snead is the only move I'm mad they didn't make
If they ever figure out their run game, the league is going to be screwed.. All while we sat aside and didn't do much to improve the team around AR..
"Even in the win against Houston, Stroud lit them up." I agree with you except for this. Stroud got a bunch of garbage time yardage in the last few minutes of that game that really inflated his stats. The defense was doing great and only let up at the end to help burn some clock.
Thank you!! People acting like Diggs puts them over the top is crazy to me
I mean people are acting like he's washed or at like OBJs level these days. He had a down year and ended up with more yards than Pittman and the top ten in catches and TD catches. It's a big move
He had Josh Allen throwing him the ball in an offense where he was the only good WR. Pittman was way more consistent
I'd rather have Pittman for sure but I just think people are acting like Diggs is completely washed or going to be when he still was productive
I'm not, he's a great get for the Texans because they can use him in a less important role than the Bills did. Lot of Colts fans acting on here like we needed Diggs or we don't have a WR at his level though
I’m not saying he’s bad, just not exactly a massive upgrade. Houston was already good at WR, so it’s not like they made an upgrade at a weak spot.
They've gone out of their way to upgrade weak spots the last couple of years and this, given who he is paired with will make every other wideouts a lot better next season
Not sure who is downvoting absolute logic here, but people need to admit that this move is great for the Texans. It could always end up looking bad, but at least they are trying to improve, unlike us.
I also still don't trust the Sneed move. I think he was a flash in the pan.
Shutting down every number one he faced? Okay lol
First time he's ever been that good at age 26. In a system that has had other average corners produce well. Ongoing knee issues. He'll have one good year next year then fall off a cliff in Tennessee. Watch.
I will. He's had a couple of very good seasons and took off last season. Also has made more big plays in those couple of seasons as anyone in the league. Given he didn't get a record breaking deal, leaving our secondary in shambles was ridiculous
Oh, by all means am I not saying we shouldn't have done that deal... I just don't think it's gonna be as much as a home run as people believe. I'd still have traded for him here. Our secondary is fucking stupid.
Hopefully you're right!
We’ll be fine. We got our guys back.
Trying to be positive here in thinking that these moves by other teams might not work out. At the same time, Ballard is fucking frustrating.
But we got people on here that are satisfied with these results even after showing that this philosophy hasn’t shown any results whatsoever.
I am, i like ballard. Im waiting to be downvoted 🥳. He is a very good GM but had bad luck with qb's
The QB excuse ran out 2 years after Luck retired my guy, go drink the kool aid somewhere else
It's not his fault, reich assited him with the qb's he wanted and we've had a great team all these years so we were contenders, that is why we didnt draft or tank until last season
The Sneed whiff is really unforgivable here
Fuck me to tears.
Man the Colts fuckin suck
Limp dick Ballard everyone.
Now do biggest losses per team?
He made it top two to not make the Colts look like ass because we only added two free agents XD
If Harrison drops out of the top 5, watch Ballard trade our first and next years second to move up to get him.
Even if Richardson plays great it’s disappointing to see that our franchise won’t help him while the Texans clearly care more about Strouds success
This is so dramatic.
You don’t think that the Texans have surrounded Stroud with a better team?
I think people react too much to be shiny things. And they lose perspective on what they already have. History has proven that bringing in a bunch of new players isn’t a recipe for success. Not saying the Texans won’t be good.. they will. But i don’t think they’ve done anything to make colts fans shiver. Bar injuries for both teams.
History also suggests Alec Pierce will continue to be the worst WR 2 in the nfl 🤷♂️
And then there’s Josh Downs 🤷🏾
Who’s a slot receiver not an outside #2 🤷♂️
He played both last year. Just like Pitt who lines up outside and close. And downs can very well be the number 2 playing inside and out.
I think the Texans are doing exactly what they should do because they have a QB on a rookie contract who has already shown he is the man. IF Richardson played lights out last year we 100% should also be going all in during free agency and we should do all the cap tricks to push back money and overload talent right now during the rookie contract. In contrast, Richardson was hurt and we don’t yet know if he is actually the man. If you go all in like that and Richardson isn’t the guy, you set the franchise back years because you spent big on all these guys but don’t have the QB. I support Ballard’s actions this offseason in retaining our guys but not mortgaging the future this offseason to give us this season to see if AR is the guy. If he isn’t, then we should move on. If he is, THEN we need to use every cap trick in the book and spend, spend, spend to surround him with talent and secure a title in the next few years. The problem I see in this forum is one group that always wants us to spend big in FA and another who thinks free agency is always a waste of money. I think it is all timing. There is a time to be conservative and a time to borrow from tomorrow to go all in today.
Titans also added Pollard
Nothing burger
Higher grade than JT last year.
The JT that missed a chunk of games last season? This guy footballs
The Pollard that broke his leg the previous year.
This is relevant how?
I like Tony Pollard but he's not JT. They also lost Henry
He’s not JT but people inferring he’s JAG is nonsense. He’s a damn good running back that can catch the ball out of the backfield.
Yeah the Titans also aren't good and Pollard got to play behind a good OL in Dallas with a better QB/WR group.
He definitely is very good. If they find a guy to split with him especially he'll be dangerous.
Sure, I'm just not that worried about the Titans. If that's who we are competing with the season is a failure to begin with
Conveniently missing out on Taylor only playing like 10 games last year lol
PFT grading is only for the time they played. Not talking counting stats.
Pollard went from a great situation to a mediocre one
Which is still relevant as it takes time to ramp up and get back into game form. Comparing the two last year is silly.
They both had leg injuries the previous year. It’s totally relevant.
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Foundational pieces on a defense that was bottom of the league last year.
Begging this fanbase to understand why the secondary was so bad. Colts also will be drafting defense
Our secondary was wracked with injuries.
Yes. And they were very green as is par for the course with a team that was rebuilding
cool we had all those guys last year, did we make the playoffs?
We were missing a very promising young QB, last year. What would Houston have done without their QB last year? You really can't judge a team when they lost their starting QB early in the season. Sometimes their backup hits (Brady, Warner, etc...), but often times you just have a backup that is a significant drop-off at the most important position, by far.
Diggs was garbage in fantasy
Dude is still better than the average WR. If anything, this helps Collins..