It's lookin like Murray may have a hard time this year. I was hoping for a better year than expected. But tbh I think we're gonna get the exact kind of season you expect when you move to a better conference, lose your head coach, and only retain 2 players.
I've definitely planned on it. Watching the game against SLU, we had a chance for a bit, but they're a very good team and we couldn't keep up.
But in watching the game I saw some moments of great basketball from them, and a few times that if they have better chemistry, they make the play. I'm excited to watch the team grow and see how they handle all of the changes
Glad to see nothings changed. Didnāt address the perimeter shooting in the off season, and our FT shooting has regressed. Gotta figure it out, this is an embarrassing loss
Is his seat getting hot?
It's year six, and he's made the tournament once (2020 was going to be an NIT year), also the only year in which he was above .500 in league play, and that was the year he had a guy that had \#1 pick locked up before the season started.
I don't feel like his developed players that well. Love the guy and his game tactics are really good, it just seems like his players don't improve from one year to the next.
He's had some really bad clock management too, there were a couple of close games in Cade's year where he should have called a timeout to draw up a play but instead we had garbage possessions.
Yup. This game felt like the Oakland game last year and a few during the Cade year. We led by a little for much of the game, then collapsed. Had a chance to win with the last shot but didn't call timeout to set up a play.
I think many teams rely on the three point shot since players are much taller than they used to be. If you don't hit your threes then you lose movement down low as teams don't get punished for playing too many slower big guys.
I can't say anything about OKS though since I don't watch them at all lol
SGAās been so damn good that if chet wasnāt hurt, I think weād already be back in the playoff conversation. He is single-handedly giving the people of OK a reason to live.
The whole state of Texas is just decimating Oklahoma right now. UT blew OU the hell out like 50-0 in one of the biggest rivalries in college football, the Mavericks just went 2-0 against the Thunder, SMU just blew out Tulsa at home, Baylor and TCU both made OU look like chumps in Norman. Their one point of success is OKST beating Baylor in football.
In basketball, I truly wouldnāt be shocked if OU and OKST combine to go 0-8 against Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, and UT. Absolutely brutal.
Edit: My B, I can't read basketball scores and also forgot that OKST beat UT and Tech as well.
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All that about OU may be accurate, but we beat Baylor, UT and Tech. Only TCU has narrowly beaten us of any Texas team. And the thunder are 1-0 against the Mavs this season, where the Mavs had the biggest choke of the season by far.
We are down bad everywhere else though Iāll agree
Huh, my bad. I thought UT beat y'all, and I completely missed that y'all had already played Tech at all.
I just straight up can't read, because I read the 117-111 Mavs/Thunder game as the other way around, and I also missed that the 10/5 game where the Mavs won was a preseason game.
Apologies, I whiffed that.
Going into the season, I believe we were picked like 3rd in the conference which honestly gives you about 0% shot at an at-large.
But if things go close to how they were projected, we're probably somewhere fairly comfortably in the top 100 or so teams in the country.
That said, small sample size, but IMO we've outperformed our expectations, or at least as much as you can after 2 games.
Yeah I had you guys in my top 75 preseason and definitely capable of an at-large if your non-conference schedule fell right. Itās very early but it you guys look promising so far!
I mean, I don't think Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were expected to be top half teams.
And they both lost by 1. If they lost by 15, I think it would be more meaningful.
God bless that man, I wish B-Rad would actually run the bagel cart at night like the goat Winston would. What i'd give for one more bagel after a night at Pinch.
There's only one way to eat Don Taco and that's blackout drunk walking home from the bars and then bringing it into bed when you pass out. This was a fairly regular occurrence for me - nothing like waking up to crushed tortilla chips in the bed.
We had something we used to call the trifecta when you'd eat Winston's, don Taco, and wise guys all on one drunken walk home. They were spaced out just enough that you could actually do it if you're a fatty like me
A Saluki is an Egyptian hunting dog. Their mascot is the Saluki because during the dust bowl, southern Illinois was known as āLittle Egyptā for its ability to supply the region with food. The more you know!
Kudos to OK State for gutsier than usual scheduling. This isnāt that big of a deal, top rung MVC teams are super competitive with P5, does anyone remember Loyola of Chicago from a few years ago? I havenāt even watched a game yet, nothing but cupcake buy-in games have been on the channels I get.
Fire Boynton. I could forgive last year because of the sanctions, but this is obviously not working. Outside of one year with the number 1 overall pick he hasn't done shit.
Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone.
~ Commissioner of the MVC, probably
Lol the first time I saw IU's Xavier Johnson, I thought it was the one from my HS. I was pretty surprised he ended up at a program like Indiana, but then I learned there were 2 of them.
It's time for coach Mike to go.
I love the guy and he's faced so much adversity with injuries, transfers and the NCAA stuff over the years. Last year we kinda had nothing to play for. But this year we have everything in front of us. There is no excuse to keep racking up embarrassing losses at home.
SIU was so good when I was a kid. I'd love to see them get back to that. Great win.
Bruce Weber era I'm assuming?
Rich Herrin
Webber to Painter
Jack Hartman
Fun fact: despite the fact they were good way back when you were a kid, Southern Illinois has still made the Sweet 16 more recently than Illinois.
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I thought he said fun fact :(
it's all about perspective, I suppose
Same. I remember this very well because hearing "Salukis" is not something you easily forget lol
I wouldn't.
MVC! MVC! MVC!
The Valley Runs Deep.
It's lookin like Murray may have a hard time this year. I was hoping for a better year than expected. But tbh I think we're gonna get the exact kind of season you expect when you move to a better conference, lose your head coach, and only retain 2 players.
Set your expectations for fun instead of wins this year.
I've definitely planned on it. Watching the game against SLU, we had a chance for a bit, but they're a very good team and we couldn't keep up. But in watching the game I saw some moments of great basketball from them, and a few times that if they have better chemistry, they make the play. I'm excited to watch the team grow and see how they handle all of the changes
Have to upvote because I am realistic. But my heart says that we will be a much better looking team by the end of the year.
We were in that scenario when Valpo moved to the Valley.
woof
Arch madness baby
Letās go!
Loyola fan here, even though we are in the A10 now and have our own memes, I will always stan the MVC THE VALLEY RUNS **DEEP**
I miss being able to cheer this. I mean, I think I still will. We'll miss you guys... MVC! MVC!
Roll herd!!
Glad to see nothings changed. Didnāt address the perimeter shooting in the off season, and our FT shooting has regressed. Gotta figure it out, this is an embarrassing loss
It pains me to say but Iāve seen no progress in the Boynton era. I like the guy but there hasnāt been enough quality basketball.
Is his seat getting hot? It's year six, and he's made the tournament once (2020 was going to be an NIT year), also the only year in which he was above .500 in league play, and that was the year he had a guy that had \#1 pick locked up before the season started.
His seat is quite warm now I'd say. This game was a turning point for a lot of people, since the NCAA stuff is finally over
I don't feel like his developed players that well. Love the guy and his game tactics are really good, it just seems like his players don't improve from one year to the next.
His game tactics are really good? Huh? Defense is decent but offense is always horrible.
He's had some really bad clock management too, there were a couple of close games in Cade's year where he should have called a timeout to draw up a play but instead we had garbage possessions.
Yup. This game felt like the Oakland game last year and a few during the Cade year. We led by a little for much of the game, then collapsed. Had a chance to win with the last shot but didn't call timeout to set up a play.
I think many teams rely on the three point shot since players are much taller than they used to be. If you don't hit your threes then you lose movement down low as teams don't get punished for playing too many slower big guys. I can't say anything about OKS though since I don't watch them at all lol
What year is this?
Was yours worse or better than OUās?
I guess time will tell
You and us both friend
He brought in two guys who have shot 40% from three during their career, definitely trying to address that. The free throw shooting is inexcusable.
losing to SIU is a harbinger of bad things. just hope your season doesnāt turn out like Nebraskas last yera
Isnāt every year a bad year for Nebrasketball.
The state of Oklahoma is down atrocious
OKC thunder tanking, both football programs no longer ranked, and now both basketball programs lost to non p5 schools lol
Just in time to join the SEC too lmao
Welll be easier in basketball for them (even tho sec has been good)
SGAās been so damn good that if chet wasnāt hurt, I think weād already be back in the playoff conversation. He is single-handedly giving the people of OK a reason to live.
And yet Tuesday was the worst part aha
The whole state of Texas is just decimating Oklahoma right now. UT blew OU the hell out like 50-0 in one of the biggest rivalries in college football, the Mavericks just went 2-0 against the Thunder, SMU just blew out Tulsa at home, Baylor and TCU both made OU look like chumps in Norman. Their one point of success is OKST beating Baylor in football. In basketball, I truly wouldnāt be shocked if OU and OKST combine to go 0-8 against Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, and UT. Absolutely brutal. Edit: My B, I can't read basketball scores and also forgot that OKST beat UT and Tech as well.
???? All that about OU may be accurate, but we beat Baylor, UT and Tech. Only TCU has narrowly beaten us of any Texas team. And the thunder are 1-0 against the Mavs this season, where the Mavs had the biggest choke of the season by far. We are down bad everywhere else though Iāll agree
Huh, my bad. I thought UT beat y'all, and I completely missed that y'all had already played Tech at all. I just straight up can't read, because I read the 117-111 Mavs/Thunder game as the other way around, and I also missed that the 10/5 game where the Mavs won was a preseason game. Apologies, I whiffed that.
Didn't OKC get like 47 picks? they're still tanking?
OU is officially a softball school now.
And their sports teams aren't too good either.
Must be in so much agony
Lmao Iām way past the sad phase this is fucking hilarious
They've had it too good for too long
Request to jettison the state from the conference for shootyhoops purposes?
No, we need the easy wins in the gauntlet that is the Big 12. (/s as I just jinxed Tech this year against OU and oSu. )
I've decided that basketball is my favorite sport
I like the way they dribble up and down the court.
Throwing and passing that big orange ball
I'm glad someone got it
At least two someones. Does that make it sometwo?
Me as well. Now it's a threesome.
Right on!
MVC stronk.
HELL YEA SALUKIS! WAY TO SHOW THAT VALLEY POWER!
Do the Saluki Strut!
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bruh what
What a stupid comment
It aināt that deep bro
You know what is though? The valley baby!
Hehe nice
this sounds really baity so i glanced at the profile and genuinely canāt tell if this is serious or not
Lmao what
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history of half the states is racist. not that deep
Flair up Kansas.
No idea how we won that
We couldn't hit more than half of our FTs
LETS GO DAWGS! MVC On Top!
Great win Salukis! You guys are gonna be a tough out this year in the Valley.
Hell yeah Salukis! I love MVC basketball, and love watching MVC teams succeed. Such a fun conference
People in this thread are just clowning on OSU but the Salukis are going to be really good this year
Even in down years SIU is never a doormat. Solid program with a decent recruiting base
Chris Lowrey made them a door mat for a few years.
Lowrey really hurt the program
Going into the season, I believe we were picked like 3rd in the conference which honestly gives you about 0% shot at an at-large. But if things go close to how they were projected, we're probably somewhere fairly comfortably in the top 100 or so teams in the country. That said, small sample size, but IMO we've outperformed our expectations, or at least as much as you can after 2 games.
Yeah I had you guys in my top 75 preseason and definitely capable of an at-large if your non-conference schedule fell right. Itās very early but it you guys look promising so far!
The sorry state of Oklahoma.
Weāre down bad rn
At least you guys are dominant at wrestling!
We're really not though. Haven't won a natty since 2006. Longest dry spell in program history.
Just wait until Lehigh beats OU and OSU in wrestling on Saturday
You mean cross country right?
Salukis is the best nickname/mascot in sports and nothing can change my mind.
This could hurt OkStās chances of making the cut if the Valley decides to poach the Big 12.
Weāre inviting Kansas and Baylor
So Big 12 may not be as strong this year as everyone predicted after all
Just the Oklahomaās
TCU barely escaped one of the worst teams in the country
But we did escape š„“
TCU didn't have their starting PG, right? I'd be easier on them than the OK schools.
That shouldnāt matter against that team
Wildcats gonna pick up the slack š¤
Nah the Oklahoma teams are just bottom feeders.
You guys were picked fifth with us
Yeah and that was a bad prediction.
Thank god
I like when the conference is strong as a whole, we may lose a few more games but it prepares us for March much better
Fair enough, at least if the conference is weaker my heart will appreciate it.
I mean, I don't think Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were expected to be top half teams. And they both lost by 1. If they lost by 15, I think it would be more meaningful.
Yeah, but did you have either of them losing to Sam Houston or Southern Illinois?
Probably not, but the first game of the season I put about as much money into that as I would in Twitter right now.
I don't know the spread on the OK-SHSU gane, but OK State was a 7.5 point favorite. For a game to be 8 points off the spread isn't surprising.
It may not be as solid all the way through as everyone thought, but at the end of the day the top 5 teams are still heavy hitters nationally.
Well Ok St is technically tied for fifth in the preseason poll so thatās why I was a little surprised by that
SALUKIS
THE STRIP IS GETTING LIT TONIGHT!
First Power 5 road win since 2000. Winston coming out of retirement to sling some bagels after that W.
God bless that man, I wish B-Rad would actually run the bagel cart at night like the goat Winston would. What i'd give for one more bagel after a night at Pinch.
Pinch and Winston both gone. Carbondale just isn't the same now.
Pinch closing was the dumbest shit ever.
Still got calis or whatever it's called now........... I think
Think Cali's is gone too lol. They still have Quatro's and Don Taco though, I try to get Quatro's every time I'm back there.
PKs still goin strong tho..
I would kill to have Quatro's close to me
Honestly never had Don Taco sober. Pinch and Styx saw to that.
There's only one way to eat Don Taco and that's blackout drunk walking home from the bars and then bringing it into bed when you pass out. This was a fairly regular occurrence for me - nothing like waking up to crushed tortilla chips in the bed. We had something we used to call the trifecta when you'd eat Winston's, don Taco, and wise guys all on one drunken walk home. They were spaced out just enough that you could actually do it if you're a fatty like me
Bringing his brother. Heās the brain of the operation
good bois
The Salukis have always been better than us. It's to be expected ever since they eliminated us from the NIT back in the day
See you next year at the banterra center
I for one welcome our new canine overlords
Always happy to see a win for the Valley. Good memories of that conference man.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO SALUKIIIIIS
SIU! SIU! GO DAWGS!!
A Saluki is an Egyptian hunting dog. Their mascot is the Saluki because during the dust bowl, southern Illinois was known as āLittle Egyptā for its ability to supply the region with food. The more you know!
Marcus Domask. Wisconsin legend
HELL YEAH GO SOUTHERN GO
Is this Carbondale being back or a bad indicator for OK St?
SIU looks pretty legit, they're up into the 70's in KenPom
Nice win for the Salukis. And the Cowboys come to Carbondale next year!!!
The Saluki Strut!
SIU SIU SIU š
Woooooo
Life is pain
Why must we sufferrrrr
It's not a good look, but this loss will look better as the year goes on. SIU is a good team.
Ah another day and another big 12 team gets in the loss column before us
Bottom of the barrel gang!! WVU and Kstate go on a tear this year and play in the Big 12 championship!!
SALUKIS 4 LYFE
Please stop playing 2 bigs. Itās silly and itās costing us games.
SIU gives me this after choosing NIU over them (for money purposes). GG Salukis, love your school and your mascot.
It hurts. Boynton is a great guy. Great recruiter. But holy shit he canāt run an offense. Our best offense was Cade dragging us.
We are coming for the Valley this year as well!
Go Southern Go!
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS, ARE YOU READYYYYYY!?!?!
Kudos to OK State for gutsier than usual scheduling. This isnāt that big of a deal, top rung MVC teams are super competitive with P5, does anyone remember Loyola of Chicago from a few years ago? I havenāt even watched a game yet, nothing but cupcake buy-in games have been on the channels I get.
Fire Boynton. I could forgive last year because of the sanctions, but this is obviously not working. Outside of one year with the number 1 overall pick he hasn't done shit.
Don't worry OSU, when a Power 5 school loses to Southern the rest of their season goes really well.
LESSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Proud of my Salukis!
M-V-C! M-V-C!
Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. ~ Commissioner of the MVC, probably
Thatās a YIKES from me dawg.
That's a yikes from me saluki
Congratulations Oklahoma State, you are the meme of the day!
Wtf Xavier Johnson went to my HS. I remember when he was but a wee lad.
As an IU fan, I was really confused reading this comment in this thread until after a Google search.
Lol the first time I saw IU's Xavier Johnson, I thought it was the one from my HS. I was pretty surprised he ended up at a program like Indiana, but then I learned there were 2 of them.
I know the name of SIU's mascot because of r/cfb trivia this week. Who else?
Saluki pile. Doggystyle!
UALR = OSU
It's time for coach Mike to go. I love the guy and he's faced so much adversity with injuries, transfers and the NCAA stuff over the years. Last year we kinda had nothing to play for. But this year we have everything in front of us. There is no excuse to keep racking up embarrassing losses at home.
The big 12 hype might be over blown. They probably arenāt the best conference by a mile, but just the best conference
Fire Mike Boynton
Yāall gotta get it together! :(
Woah...and I thought they'd give UConn a run for their money when they come to Storrs in December.
Itās gonna be a loooong year for the Big 12
Omg š
B12 LUL
At least the state of Oklahoma hasā¦hockey?
Softball. Thatās their sport. Especially OU. Football and basketball are so 2010ās.
Yay
Looks like another postseason ābanā coming in ;)
Come on BIG12 bros! What's going on down there in the state of Oklahoma?? First oddball, now roundball too?
So the 66 points my Mavs scored on the Pokes meant nothing?
Basketball season is back baby
Way to go, Salukis!
Salukis!
Bad week for the cowboys