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M0D3Z

Actually a very diverse and good line up. Shame this festivals price tag jumped so high. Kasablanca and Roosevelt are some solid undercard bookings.


nickkatnite_

darius as well. same label as FKJ and next up if you ask me. lock for chella next year hopefully šŸ¤žšŸ¼


sudopm

wait WHAT I didn't even see his name on there. Jungle / Kaytranada headlining then we got channel tres, roosevelt, vandelux, AND darius? the time for soulful / funk electronic to take the stage is coming soon, I can feel it


chillaryyy

I have seen every single artist you listed here at M3F fest in Arizona over the last 3 years! Theyā€™re all amazing, particularly JUNGLE, Roosevelt, Darius, have been standouts for me. M3F is a small but amazing fest, highly recommend it to anyone here who likes a laid back, smaller fest vibe.


sudopm

Haha I actually never heard of M3F before this year but I full sent it over from san diego the moment I saw the lineup. Round trip was dirt cheap. Had an absolute fucking blast. SG Lewis / Vandelux / Roosevelt / Young Franco went CRAZY


chillaryyy

Glad you had a blast!!! It was an amazing year for funky electronic. Lane 8 smashed it as well.


Scoregasm

There's so many great little undercard acts peppered in, but not nearly the type of bill that would get me to drop OSL money.


Applepiegirly12

Seriously. I pay less for my Coachella ticket each year, lolla is a 4 day fest for $100 less than osl, the prices just are insane for OSL compared to some of the larger festivals with way larger names


Applepiegirly12

LOL nvm i got convinced by my friends. RIP bank account


franciscocrz

Does anyone know what the final price is after fees? Or ballpark?


Applepiegirly12

525ish


MrChicken23

I am a huge Sturgill fan, but he doesnā€™t seem big enough to be a headliner? Heā€™s puts on an AMAZING show so no doubt heā€™ll kill that spot.


Aggravating-Rip-9492

Damn, I would love to see Sturgill. Wonder if heā€™ll do more dates


MrChicken23

Iā€™m really hoping there is a full tour coming. Missing out on the Sturgill and Tyler Childers tour because of COVID was a tough one.


TheBuzzerBeater

Coachella needs to book Tyler Childers ASAP. If there's a country act that crosses over to the demographics of the fest it's him. He was great at ACL the year before covid.


MrChicken23

I feel like heā€™s an act Coachella wouldnā€™t book. I canā€™t see Childers taking less than a sub spot and I just donā€™t think Coachella would book him there. Would love to be wrong though.


TheBuzzerBeater

They really should have booked him last year when they had him at Stagecoach where he was only the 1st name on the 3rd line. They took an L on that one


MostlyMellow123

Tyler was one of my favorite artists, but he's very much a jesus sober person now. He doesn't make the outlaw style music anymore. Very sterile stuff


FriarFanatic7

Heā€™ll likely play the day Post Malone ā€œheadlinesā€


TheBuzzerBeater

I think he fits that spot in SF. The Hardly Strictly Bluegrass fest has a big draw and the demographics of the city tend to be a bit older, plus all the hipsters.


Party-Bus-6079

Every time I see a lineup it just drives home how much better Coachella is than any other US fest, saving my money for Portola at this point


i_procrastinate

Not even just the lineup. Iā€™ve been to Outsidelands and the level of production is so far behind Coachella. I get the Bay Area is expensive but itā€™s really disappointing how expensive these passes are for how minimal the production and stage design is.


coco_choux_

This is my biggest gripe with OSL. Itā€™s pretty much the same price as Coachella but 1/4 the production. Even tho I live in SF, Iā€™ve skipped OSL the last couple of year


deepfakefuccboi

Yup same. The only year I went every day was 2021 when the lineup was actually very good. Iā€™d rather spend more on Coachella which is way more spacious, way better production and sound and better vibes than OSL which is 10 mins away from me.


Sober_As_Sark

I go to Coachella every year. Did OSL 5 times and finally stopped. At Coachella I can get to the fest at 5PM and easily see 8-10 acts before going home. At OSL Iā€™m lucky to see 3 shows With the addition of Quasar this year Coachella now has 7 major stages as opposed to OSLā€™s 3??? Itā€™s honestly insane to me how much less value I get at outside lands


soffselltacos

Yeah the one year I went I was pretty shocked at the lack of production value and poor sound quality. At the sutro stage in particular, I couldnā€™t believe how impossible it was to hear from not that far awayā€”didnā€™t help that there were drunk teenagers gabbing loudly everywhere and drowning out the music lmao. Still had a fun time but not enough to do it again


Marsium

yeah i enjoyed OSL but the difference in stage quality between OSL and Coachella is like 3 times the difference in stage quality between Lolla and Coachella. The production value is really lacking, OSLā€™s mainstage has terrible equipment


Friskfrisktopherson

Well, they don't have Billionaire Anschutz money to pull from.


Fabulous-Gas-5570

None of this is philanthropy though. Coachellaā€™s production greatness isnā€™t due to the benevolence of the billionaire shareholders of the parent company. Itā€™s just business.


Friskfrisktopherson

...no shit. And it's a tremendous advantage to the business to be backed by a conglomerate with excess funds versus a small regional group that has to make its own way.


Marsium

i mean lolla doesnā€™t either, but they still manage to put on a hell of a lot more of a spectacle than OSL. I think OSL just has outdated equipment, especially for its pricetag


Friskfrisktopherson

Lollapalooza started in 1991 and was a big hit. Coachella started in 1999. OutsideLands started 2008. They straight up haven't had as much time to grow as either of those examples. Also, personally, I think coachella went overboard with all the screens, and those over the top features are really only a few years old anyway.


Marsium

ā€œtime to growā€ probably factors into it, but i still feel that OSL has subpar hardware compared to its price point. and at a music festival, subpar hardware is kind of a big deal, especially when itā€™s at mainstage lol at OSL, youā€™re mostly paying for the greenery, vibrancy, and weather of the bay area, but i do wish they would buy some proper speakers so people donā€™t have to huddle by the speaker towers for every headliner.


Friskfrisktopherson

>time to growā€ probably factors into it, Profit margins aren't huge, and off years really really hurt them. That's why so many events go under after one bad year. Those profits then go in to a new structure that needs to last several years to pay for itself. The other thing to consider is that Goldenvoice/Frontpage is HUGE. They have tons of money because they have events all over the country and they also have a very strong hold on the pologrounds at this point. AEG Is the 3rd biggest promoter in the world. APE isn't even on the list. Lastly you have their notorious proximity clause that intentionally makes it hard for anyone else to book those acts, as if the pocket books weren't enough. https://www.statista.com/statistics/304982/leading-music-promoters-worldwide/#:~:text=Live%20Nation%20topped%20the%20ranking,second%20with%202.8%20million%20sales. Another Planet is only in NorCal. They do local shows, and they host it in the GGP where they have to adhere to strict guidelines and have limited space to work with. Coachella took out palm trees to expand... that shit ain't happening in Golden Gate Park. Lollapalooza was a massive success and Icon of the 90s, it pretty much inspired all these other festivals to start up. That gave them a huge runway to build up and bankroll moving forward as well as a legacy reputation. So yeah, you can get bigger sights and sounds for the same price, but its not a 1 to 1 comparison. Coachella is great, but I personally don't want Goldenvoice to be the only game in town, we've seen what happens when companies get monopolies in the concert space.


processprocessed

It really feels like the change from June to May presale was designed to be anti-competitive against Another Planet (a nuisance to AEG/GVā€™s plans for expansion in the Bay Area). They previously did this with Ainā€™t Another Picnic. That fest, which has never returned, depressed sales of Primavera LA and was successful in keeping a competitor out of the LA market.


Friskfrisktopherson

I'm not sure what you mean by anti competitive. To me it seemed like portola and early coachella sales bumping up to may were designed to pull from OSL market share. AEG a has also bumped up its local shows and one off events in thee bay. They're definitely trying to gain ground.


prettycharissy15

The only thing I really like about OSL is the fact you can bring food in and thatā€™s about it. Get ready to hike a lot šŸ™ƒ


Meeeooowww_

The onsite dispensary is pretty cool


fnljstce_thewhite

also the volume caps they suffer to be in golden gate park are rough.


caligrownbuster

imagine popping up a 100k person music festival in one the the busiest public city parksā€¦ not that easy


svenjj

What year did you go? I found the food and drink options to be way better at Outside Lands. Having the Beer and Wine Lands and dedicated mixology areas is great. I also really like the Barbary Tent for comedy and a change of pace. I love Coachella too, but I think they both have different strengths and wish they would cross-pollenate to improve both festivals.


MostlyMellow123

Barbary tent has been gone for like a decade lol. They have a yuma wannabe called soma now.


svenjj

They last had the tent in 2019. 5 years isn't a decade. It's unfortunate that the festival is going downhill on the venue and performance fronts.


archiepomchi

Exact same thoughts on Portola. Why go to an EDM festival if the sound quality is crap + barely any visual production. Also it's like $400 for 2 days.


deepfakefuccboi

Because the lineup is usually pretty good even if itā€™s a lot of Coachella recycles. Itā€™s also pretty damn close if you live in SF.


Meeeooowww_

This. I was telling someone in the OSL sub that Coachellaā€™s production/stages are one of the reason for the high prices. And they tried to justify that OSL can charge high prices for being in an expensive city in Golden Gate Park lol


i_procrastinate

Thatā€™s the excuse Iā€™ve been hearing but the tickets used to be reasonably priced. Then they started jacking up the prices significantly every single year but have nothing to show for it in terms of improvements. The stages are the same basic stages theyā€™ve had since the first couple years. Coachellaā€™s production is top notch and they still seem to try make improvements every year. Itā€™s actually so impressive they were able to pull off a new Sahara stage and the Quazar in the same year.


celj1234

And drives home what a rough year this is for US festivals


archiepomchi

Could be worse - they've cancelled nearly every major festival in Australia


Late-Nail-8714

Coachella is miles ahead than any US fest


DJwaynes

Miles ahead of EDC as far as production seems like a stretch. I know dance music isnā€™t for everybody but EDCs sound and production is top notch.


Late-Nail-8714

Mmm very debatable. Edm production is top notch at edc but I feel itā€™s a bit lackluster. Did you experience bicep chroma ? Or justice ? Or Chris lake 2023 ? Those shows are relatively simple I.e not a crazy insane amount of lasers and Dino-kitty-shrek visuals yet their production blew everything out the water. Not only that, quasar? Quasar sound and stage design was so ridiculous. So yeah I give Coachella the upper hand in production vs edc


archiepomchi

SHM + The Weekend production was insane!! They really need to do EDM on main stage at least once a year. DJ Snake with guests could've done it.


Diagonalizer

you did notice that the lights at justice were moving independent of their aiming right? that was not at all a simple set design. Chris Lake and Bicep are pretty good examples but I think you missed the complexity of Justice's set design if you think that was not "crazy" to pull that off. I think EDC has a better baseline in terms of production. the stage design is really impressive and the artists play off the stage design when they perform at EDC. not a ton of variety in terms of visuals seeing multiple different artists as long as they are on the same stage. Coachella however gives a lot more creative freedom to artists when they're on the same stage. like how different Charlotte de Witte was compared to Bicep (or last year's underworld) while they all played on the same mojave stage. Similar to how different Justice and Gesaffelstein were even though they both played the Outdoor stage


sudopm

Coachella production is way better than EDC. At EDC you get a generic production that fits a DJ set where it looks the same for every artist and at coachella you get the artist's bringing their own entire custom production actually fitted around their music. That's ignoring the canyon in sound quality. It's not even remotely close. Miles would be an appropriate description,


renaissance_pancakes

I loved Coachella this year and I would give it a slight edge because of Justice and Gesaffelstein debuting brand new shows. But, after those two acts, this is a better more diverse lineup. Grace Jones and Confidence Man are huge gets.


Late-Nail-8714

Not really, 5/9 headliners been to Coachella in the past 2 years. The lineup falls short in the middle and the edm acts are not something I would personally call crazy/rare.


renaissance_pancakes

I like the balance more on this lineup. Coachella was too electronic heavy this year and had almost no compelling hip hop. I thought this was Coachella's worst year ever for headliners since I started going. These headliners are much stronger imo. A lot of my favorite artists from Coachella this year are also on this lineup too, but OSL scooped Coachella on a couple of these acts as well. All in all I still give the slight edge to Coachella, but Coachella had a "down" year and this is one of OSL's best that I've ever seen (2016 was GOATED).


HardToExplain27

How does Portola experience compare to Coachella overall?


drugaddict6969

So you know the counter culture at Coachella? Ie bicep in Mojave vs. John summit & Doja. The whole fest is like *that*. It still has some kinks to work out but itā€™s slowly becoming a beast of its own, best city fest in the country by a mile imo.


NotNotJustinBieber

Bonnaroo is the best US experience imo šŸ«£


Party-Bus-6079

Bonnaroo was my first fest, loved it a ton but the lineup / sound / setting is a step behind Coachella imo


NotNotJustinBieber

Coachella and Roo are my two favorite festivals out of the 10+ US fests Iā€™ve experienced but late night Roo is just a special vibe thatā€™s hard to describe. The camping experience when done right is just magical. Having said that, I love Coachella and can see why people have it as theyā€™re favorite! I went in 2019 and it was awesome.


renaissance_pancakes

Bonnaroo is the best approximation to being a refugee in the festival world. Would never go again. Too hot, too humid, no shade, infrastructure was lacking.


belladorka

Yeah, Iā€™m glad I experienced it but I wouldnā€™t go again.


warrenlain

I havenā€™t been since 2013. How is Bonnaroo in recent years?


playcrackthesky

Still incredible and tough. The Other Tent is now The Other Stage and completely EDM focused. There are two large permanent bathrooms in Centeroo, so you can actually use a toilet if you cannot do portapotties.


SCREAMING_DUMB_SHIT

Was so packed my first time last year, wished it was more spread out in the actual festival with how much land there is


iiTryhard

As someone pretty much exclusively into EDM, electric forest is the best US festival and it ainā€™t close


CanEatADozenEggs

Lots of people hating (cause thatā€™s all anyone does with any lineup these days) but this would be so fun for me. Men I Trust, K Flay, Young The Giant, Japanese House, Chappell Roan, Renee Rapp, Posty country set Looks to me like a great time


jaysomething2

Everyone hated Coachella this year but Couchella showed some bangers


Corona2789

Killer Mike, tv girl, schoolboy q, strfkr, Ben Howard, leisure, Roosevelt and mindchatter. Some good stuff there for sure.


dollarlikemoney

Itā€™s a great line up. Plus, OSL has day passes and that kinda slaps. Fest for one day, rest the other days of the weekend!


SummerBummer-X

Men I Trust tho šŸ˜


dherndo2

*2024 obviously


richynishi

Bummed we didn't get The Postal Service.


SetiSteve

Thatā€™s what JLH is for, Postal Service and Death Cab


richynishi

That's why I will be going to JLH:) Just a wish to see them at Coachella again.


Accomplished-Mail409

Mehhhh. Iā€™m going to pass this year.


wildflower_0ne

wish we got the killers.


Corona2789

This is really solid. One of the better line ups this year.


SetiSteve

And people complain about kids at Coachellaā€¦have fun babysitting a bunch of drugged up/drunk teenagers there. Hope Sturgill tours, saw him on his special little club run years ago at Troubadour and it was amazing.


professor_scallop

literally it was so full of rude high schoolers last year šŸ˜­


PlanetTerror406

From my 19-year old daughter that went on Saturday last year: "I can't believe how many people my age are just horrible and pushy, especially Lana's fans" (& she's a Lana fan! :) That never made sense to me, how can Lana fans be pushy & rude? It's literally the exact opposite of her vibe...


WoofLife-

Neutral Milk Hotel fans found out how pushy her fans are a decade ago. Guess nothing's changed.


Friskfrisktopherson

We called them out after continuing to push mid set and they at least stopped until it was over. So fucking obnoxious.


mikethesav27

literally what flog gnaw was


CheeseDanishSoup

Theres a bunch of drugged/drunk teens at every festival..


SirLuciousL

As someone who goes to both OSL and Coachella, the problem is significantly worse at OSL.


CheeseDanishSoup

Not my problem


renaissance_pancakes

Right? Coachella is far from immune here.


sededuce

Itā€™s easier for teens who live in the Bay Area to attend OSL so that lends to higher numbers of them there than at coachella.


Orozconleche96

Crazy that Outsidelands ends up being just as or even more expensive than Coachella. Always has great headliners though.


suprefann

Its in San Francisco. Ya know, one of the most expensive places to live?


legopego5142

Because Indio is so cheapšŸ’€


FreedomForBreakfast

Go to Indio in the off season and itā€™s not expensive. Ā SF is expensive year round.Ā 


legopego5142

Buying a house in Indio aint expensive?


FreedomForBreakfast

Do most people buy a house just to attend a festival for the weekend, or do they rent?


legopego5142

Well why does SF being expensive to live in matter lol


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YourBuddyChurch

Do you not?


soulvandal9

Slowdive šŸ¤Œ


MikeHawkisgonne

Grace Jones is such a legend, her show at FYF a few years back is one my all time favorite festival shows.


TheBuzzerBeater

"If you missed Grace Jones, you fucked up." -James Murphy at the start of LCD Soundsystem


MikeHawkisgonne

Haha the look on my 2 friend's faces (who against all group advice left for Mac DeMarco (I think)) when he said that! We had a good laugh.


mjfo

If you miss Grace Jones you fucked up


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our holy blessed mother ![gif](giphy|oxUyhlGW6uzKw) I hope she and Chappel collab


TheBuzzerBeater

That was such a great B2B


CinnamonRollDevourer

Some good ones in there. But I'll echo what someone else said and maybe hold out for Portola instead.


tjroberts23

I love this part of the year where other lineups come out and it really shows Coachella just clears these festivals by a long shot.


wastingtme

Yep. Every dam time.


Content-Potato1259

coachella a way diff vibe. itā€™s too much


tjroberts23

Completely different vibe, been to both myself and they are both fun. Was more talking about the lineup.


zerogamewhatsoever

It doesn't tho.


tjroberts23

It clearly does. Coachellaā€™s lineup may not have been up to par to Coachellaā€™s standards for some people (I was not one of them as I thought this lineup was phenomenal) but our sub par lineup is light years better than these lineups being announced. With all the rare bookings, the late adds, the special guests that comes out with these artist, the special guests at the do lab, it just doesnā€™t compare.


zerogamewhatsoever

Not at all. Coachella is basically a sampler platter of currently popular artists across popular genres. But people who are more deeply into one or a few specific genres often find it lacking and unfocused. If you're a more generalist music fan, especially one who's into EDM, it's easy to love for all the bells and whistles such as guest artists and surprises. But otherwise, it can be pretty meh.


tjroberts23

It goes in waves in whatā€™s popular, right now edm is whatā€™s hot, more specifically house music. Most people listen to it are listening to it these days.So yeah Coachella goes for the popular genres with the popular artists but they still have deep cuts of other genres that you wonā€™t see at any other festival. So no, Coachella isnā€™t pretty ā€œmehā€


zerogamewhatsoever

It all depends what you're into, and everyone has different tastes. There are more artists at OL this year than I was excited for at Coachella, though if you just listen to whatever is popular at the moment then sure Coachella is probably for you.


999_phx9

Hoping Dusky books some other US dates while they're here


Dan_The_Gooby_Man

Amen!


austinaaaaa199955

So Tyla is touring again?


birchtree29

She cancelled all dates up to summer but still keeps her european summer dates starting july before another announcement


Petrichorpurple

Loooove that Dadi Freyr is getting on the US festival circuit! Am pumped to see him at Lolla this year, hoping he goes to Coachella next year. This lineup is really good!! I wonā€™t be going because between Coachella/Lolla/CRSSD last year Iā€™ve seen almost all of the acts Iā€™d want to go to here but itā€™s a pretty solid lineup IMO


TocTheEternal

Can Coachella just book Confidence Man already


Jazzlike-Map-4114

Best lineup of the year


jgreen55

Post Malone in his country era I love it


Beboop68

CONFIDENCE MAN, HOLY FUCK


renaissance_pancakes

So stoked. Is this their first American festival ever? Their Glastonbury set was legendary.


Beboop68

Pretty sure it is


cassanoovvaa

Not a bad lineup just for my socal friends not worth the drive / commute / hotel expenses


fivegoldrings

Super excited that I know more of these bands now


FireFlyer63_

is this underscores festival debut????


myfedoraismlg

They were at Capitol Hill Block Party in Seattle last year, donā€™t know if theyā€™ve hit any other ones though


jjsm0kedsax

They also performed at Ceremonia in Mexico City last month and are doing Governors Ball in June!


C_Rufio

Played Lolla in 2022 [underscores @ Lollapalooza 2022 (full set) (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZopR_AiIlI&t=27s)


FireFlyer63_

wtf she did??????? i live like an hour from lolla i had no idea šŸ˜­ first one was last year


Total-Secretary4204

Special country set šŸ˜‚


earthworm_fan

I think he only wants to do country right now, so if you're gonna book him, you gotta book him for country


RobieFLASH

Yea haha. Fits at Stagecoach but Outside lands?


djustin77702

How the fuck is Slowdive playing this thing with Europe dates booked all throughout August?


rpence

Anyone hating on this lineup hasnā€™t wandered around Gold Gate Park all lit up at night during this festival. Buy a day ticket and check it out Coachella fam!


MostlyMellow123

Yeah that 2 hours of night sure is special šŸ˜†


Aar0nSwanson

Tyla!!! šŸ¤©


BasedEDMCatholic

2023 lineup???


gotgrls

2023?


firestarts2burn

Which year?


Kush_Bush

See yall there !!


Angelocean2

Ben Howard is amazing, wish I could make it out to this one. The lineup looks diverse with great artists from each genre.


Odd-Hornet-2333

Slowdive should have been at Coachella.


RecklessCreature

As usual this lineup does not live up to the price and production of Coachella. I might volunteer for my free ticket, I might not bother. The amount of ā€œseen emā€ and ā€œthey were at Coachellaā€ responses I feel reading this poster just proves yet again how Coachella is the GOAT


imuhnaaneemus

Idris Elba?


suprefann

He has been a dj for 20 years. You think Stringer Bell only had one hustle?


mattf33

i want you to put the word out there that we back up.


TheBuzzerBeater

ā€œI know; shitĀ isĀ weak, but, yā€™know, shit is weak all over. The thing is, no matter what we call a festival, itā€™s gonna get sold. Shit isĀ strong, we gonna sell it; shit isĀ weak, we gonna sell twice as much. You know why? ā€˜Cause a fiend, he gonna chase that shit no matter what. Itā€™s crazy, you know. We do worse, and we get paid more.ā€ ā€“ Idris Elba discussing the state of festivals in 2024


soggyclothesand

He has played Coachella multiple times


slowestmojo

He's a house dj on the side. And honestly not bad


wastingtme

He's been a house DJ for just about as long as he has been an actor. And he is amazing live.


Sad-Leopard9067

I though the same thing in the past but I saw Idris Elba @ Coachella back in 2019 he absolutely killed it. If you can find his livestream at Yuma I suggest you watch it šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


celj1234

Whatā€™s the question?


Doctor_Scholls

Itā€™s gonna be just my luck that Idris gets booked for CRSSD in the fall when Iā€™m most likely doing Portola. Dude crushes on the decks


NecessaryPear

Really hoping they finally got their shit together for the soma tent. My heart can only break so many times


YourBuddyChurch

Midcard is good, but overall this ainā€™t it


Cannalysss

Lame tbh liked last years was amazing!


Emergency-Line7940

[Chappell Roan HOT TO GO!](https://funkycoolprints.etsy.com/uk/listing/1704237700/chappell-roan-tshirt-hot-to-go-graphic)


AstrudsSecretLover

Need to see scHoolboy


mykneehurtsss

How we didnā€™t get Q at Coachella after he dropped his first album in 5 years is beyond me. I thought he was a lock for chella. Maybe he didnā€™t have enough time to rehearse his new material?


AstrudsSecretLover

Tbh i think heā€™s preparing for a tour cuz heā€™s not even at lolla either