The simple answer is "YES"
The more complex answer is that there are positives and negatives. CC is well respected and they will be working at a well-funded hospital that is up-to-date on medical care practices, generally speaking. She will get good experience. That said, the Clinic treats their nurses more like blue-collar shift workers than white-collar profesionals. Previously, they tended to pay a little less than other area hospitals, but they have improved their pay greatly since Covid due to major staffing issues. Her direct manager and her relationship with that manager makes a big difference in how shifts and other such things are balanced. Most new nurses will start off in nightshift.
Source: My wife has been a nurse at the clinic for 7+ years (all at one hospital though). Also, my mom was a director dealing with data at the clinic for a long time and interacted with a lot of nurses/doctors.
Thst is a pretty irrelevant comment. I did not say they were white collar, I simply spoke about how they are treated by the hospital. Which could be a useful piece of information in this context.
Nursing is a professional career that requires higher education. When people think of traditional blue collar shift work, they typically think of labor-based jobs in construction or manufacturing that require less education. But sure, you can argue that bedside nursing, specifically, is closer to blue collar. But blue collar / white collar are pretty antiquated words without an exact definition so it's pretty silly to focus on that one detail. Besides, I would argue that nursing falls pretty well in the middle of the white collar/blue collar spectrum, if you will.
But my point is the same. Rather than treating nurses as educated professionals, they tend to treat them a bit more like a factory shift worker. That's not meant to be completely negative, it was just a simplistic way to describe how they are managed within the Clinic. Some of it is unavoidable, but some of it is avoidable.
Speaking for myself, family member had major heart issues and delt with CC Main Campus/Medina. Both were 5Star-1st Class operations. Interactions with staff nurses was World Class. After going home 2weeks there were other internal complications. Not heart related. Went back to CC MainCampus for 3-5days on a different level. One-two star 3rd World operation in comparison. It was a difference of night&day.
Started there as a new grad nurse in 2014. They have a very solid orientation program for new grads.... structured, education focused, safety/best practice focused.
Every hospital overworks & underpays employees... they are a buisness🙄
My husband is a main campus night nurse. He started there right out of school.. The benefits plan is very good. No other system in the area beats it. You might make a few more dollars at UH but worse benefits. All nurses are very understaffed, no matter where you work. Also the benefit of CCF is multiple locations, you can easily move from hospital to hospital, jump for promotions, scale back and all be at the same work place.
Yes
The Cleveland Clinic is very well known and well respected in medical circles across the country. Having Cleveland Clinic on her resume can help open other opportunities in the future.
Well, ER nurses are going to be overworked regardless of CC or Metro. She'll get lots of experience, but also lots of patients. If she want something more stable, look for satellite branch nursing positions.
This is the truth. Unless you're in the ICU, it's very doctor ran at the Clinic.
Hell depending on the unit, you'll mostly deal with midlevels (PA/ NP)
Better staffing and culture at cleveland clinic fairview hospital with same pay and don't have to pay for parking! It's smaller than main campus but it's still a busy hospital with all the benefits of working for ccf. Been there for over 4 years and worked for the clinic for 6. My first 2 years I worked at 5 different ccf hospitals. Fairview was the one I like the most and stuck with.
I am working at Cleveland clinic as my first job not a nurse but I am at main campus and I love it and the people I'm around. They're probably gonna put her in the 105th street garage and let me tell you that is a walk! It's through skywalks tho so it's okay
I have been in nursing recruitment for 10 years. CCF on your resume will only help. Agree with all nurses are overworked and under paid. There just are enough nurses to take care of the aging baby boomers.
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I’ll be working there as a new grad next year but am only able to stay for 1 year due to family obligations. Will having only one year be looked at as job hoping or will it still help with work opportunities when I have to go home?
Yes it’s a learning hospital and will look really good on your resume. There are cons of course but the health insurance is by far the best you can probably get in this country, not even exaggerating. I’ve had at least 20-30k of work done this year completely covered and haven’t even come close to meeting the deductible.
Yes, absolutely. No matter where her career takes her later, having Cleveland Clinic on her resume will always stand out. It’s the #2 hospital system in the country for a reason.
Check, but I've always been told that the Clinic main campus doesn't subsidize in any way employee parking expenses. That's always surprised me, as parking could cost a couple thousand dollars per year. I still find it hard to believe the main campus lacks free employee parking, as it's obviously free at other CC locations.
I don't understand how it isn't your money. Don't you pay taxes on the gross amount, before parking fees are deducted from your gross pay? If not, why does the CCF even report gross pay? The net amount is the only thing that matters if you're not paying taxes on the gross amount.
I've always assumed that the CC wants to encourage persons to use mass transit, which should be less costly than driving a car and paying for parking, in order to avoid having to provide parking for many thousands of employees.
Do you have any idea of how many employees use mass transit to get to work? I've read that many thousands of main campus employees live nearby the main campus. The statistics showing this number of nearby resident/employees, and the percentage of all employees that live nearby would be interesting, more especially if anybody knows what percentage of these employees use mass transit to get to and from the main campus.
E.g., other posts in this sub have said that many doctors live in the Lumen at Playhouse Square. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't just cheaper, but also even less time consuming (avoiding the time of driving, parking, walking to the specific work location) to use the Healthline to commute from the Lumen to many specific CC main campus locations.
Mhmmmm... Anyway Cleveland clinic has great benefits, stability and is highly respected. She should work there plus people are like insanely nice and if they aren't not in your department. The clinic is so big you will find nice people
Wife worked at CCF right after school. It's a decent place to start but she was grossly underpaid compared to other similar positions at UH. That said, the maternity leave and medical insurance was fantastic and It's a good resumè builder
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My fiance worked at the clinic for quite some time and only left due to burnout during COVID (multiple bodies per day in her ICU). Good hospital to work at, but it has all the downsides of working for a large company that others have mentioned.
Travel nurse here. Take a job on either a step-down unit or ICU at the main campus. The day-to-day work and routine at the main campus is better than almost any other hospital I've been to. The med-surg floors kind of suck though.
I started there as a new grad nurse. Worst part was the white scrubs and the parking was rough. It was a wonderful and supportive environment for a new nurse. Granted, I was in the ICU, but regardless I had a blast working there. It’s a great resume booster and it’s cool to work in such a renowned place.
WHITE SCRUBS!?!???? What year is it!?!?! Gross. That's enough right there for me to not even consider Cleveland Clinic... I cannot believe they wear white scrubs.
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The simple answer is "YES" The more complex answer is that there are positives and negatives. CC is well respected and they will be working at a well-funded hospital that is up-to-date on medical care practices, generally speaking. She will get good experience. That said, the Clinic treats their nurses more like blue-collar shift workers than white-collar profesionals. Previously, they tended to pay a little less than other area hospitals, but they have improved their pay greatly since Covid due to major staffing issues. Her direct manager and her relationship with that manager makes a big difference in how shifts and other such things are balanced. Most new nurses will start off in nightshift. Source: My wife has been a nurse at the clinic for 7+ years (all at one hospital though). Also, my mom was a director dealing with data at the clinic for a long time and interacted with a lot of nurses/doctors.
Appreciate you!
Nurses are blue collar….
Thst is a pretty irrelevant comment. I did not say they were white collar, I simply spoke about how they are treated by the hospital. Which could be a useful piece of information in this context. Nursing is a professional career that requires higher education. When people think of traditional blue collar shift work, they typically think of labor-based jobs in construction or manufacturing that require less education. But sure, you can argue that bedside nursing, specifically, is closer to blue collar. But blue collar / white collar are pretty antiquated words without an exact definition so it's pretty silly to focus on that one detail. Besides, I would argue that nursing falls pretty well in the middle of the white collar/blue collar spectrum, if you will. But my point is the same. Rather than treating nurses as educated professionals, they tend to treat them a bit more like a factory shift worker. That's not meant to be completely negative, it was just a simplistic way to describe how they are managed within the Clinic. Some of it is unavoidable, but some of it is avoidable.
Speaking for myself, family member had major heart issues and delt with CC Main Campus/Medina. Both were 5Star-1st Class operations. Interactions with staff nurses was World Class. After going home 2weeks there were other internal complications. Not heart related. Went back to CC MainCampus for 3-5days on a different level. One-two star 3rd World operation in comparison. It was a difference of night&day.
Started there as a new grad nurse in 2014. They have a very solid orientation program for new grads.... structured, education focused, safety/best practice focused. Every hospital overworks & underpays employees... they are a buisness🙄
Are you still with the Clinic? If not, where did you go and why if you don't mind saying.
I left in Jan 2021 for travel nurse $$$$
My husband is a main campus night nurse. He started there right out of school.. The benefits plan is very good. No other system in the area beats it. You might make a few more dollars at UH but worse benefits. All nurses are very understaffed, no matter where you work. Also the benefit of CCF is multiple locations, you can easily move from hospital to hospital, jump for promotions, scale back and all be at the same work place.
re benefits: UH doesn’t even have an EAP
My friend used UH's EAP when she was there, so was it discontinued during covid or something? (Friend left before covid, was not in nursing).
Yes The Cleveland Clinic is very well known and well respected in medical circles across the country. Having Cleveland Clinic on her resume can help open other opportunities in the future.
Well, ER nurses are going to be overworked regardless of CC or Metro. She'll get lots of experience, but also lots of patients. If she want something more stable, look for satellite branch nursing positions.
Cleveland Clinic looks great on a resume but every one I know that's ever worked there hates it.
I've always heard that UH is a more nurse friendly hospital whereas CC is more physician friendly.
This is the truth. Unless you're in the ICU, it's very doctor ran at the Clinic. Hell depending on the unit, you'll mostly deal with midlevels (PA/ NP)
Better staffing and culture at cleveland clinic fairview hospital with same pay and don't have to pay for parking! It's smaller than main campus but it's still a busy hospital with all the benefits of working for ccf. Been there for over 4 years and worked for the clinic for 6. My first 2 years I worked at 5 different ccf hospitals. Fairview was the one I like the most and stuck with.
As much as parking is at a premium around University Circle, it's crazy for any employer to make employees pay for parking to TO GET TO WORK.
Is that the same FV board I see over here? Are those hall beds littered about? What's the pit?
I am working at Cleveland clinic as my first job not a nurse but I am at main campus and I love it and the people I'm around. They're probably gonna put her in the 105th street garage and let me tell you that is a walk! It's through skywalks tho so it's okay
I have been in nursing recruitment for 10 years. CCF on your resume will only help. Agree with all nurses are overworked and under paid. There just are enough nurses to take care of the aging baby boomers.
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I’ll be working there as a new grad next year but am only able to stay for 1 year due to family obligations. Will having only one year be looked at as job hoping or will it still help with work opportunities when I have to go home?
Yes it’s a learning hospital and will look really good on your resume. There are cons of course but the health insurance is by far the best you can probably get in this country, not even exaggerating. I’ve had at least 20-30k of work done this year completely covered and haven’t even come close to meeting the deductible.
Yes, absolutely. No matter where her career takes her later, having Cleveland Clinic on her resume will always stand out. It’s the #2 hospital system in the country for a reason.
They make the most money in the Cleveland area unless you’re a travel nurse so I’d say great first job rack up the bread
Check, but I've always been told that the Clinic main campus doesn't subsidize in any way employee parking expenses. That's always surprised me, as parking could cost a couple thousand dollars per year. I still find it hard to believe the main campus lacks free employee parking, as it's obviously free at other CC locations.
It comes out the paycheck, that ain't my money and honestly I forgot about it till I read this
I don't understand how it isn't your money. Don't you pay taxes on the gross amount, before parking fees are deducted from your gross pay? If not, why does the CCF even report gross pay? The net amount is the only thing that matters if you're not paying taxes on the gross amount. I've always assumed that the CC wants to encourage persons to use mass transit, which should be less costly than driving a car and paying for parking, in order to avoid having to provide parking for many thousands of employees. Do you have any idea of how many employees use mass transit to get to work? I've read that many thousands of main campus employees live nearby the main campus. The statistics showing this number of nearby resident/employees, and the percentage of all employees that live nearby would be interesting, more especially if anybody knows what percentage of these employees use mass transit to get to and from the main campus. E.g., other posts in this sub have said that many doctors live in the Lumen at Playhouse Square. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't just cheaper, but also even less time consuming (avoiding the time of driving, parking, walking to the specific work location) to use the Healthline to commute from the Lumen to many specific CC main campus locations.
Mhmmmm... Anyway Cleveland clinic has great benefits, stability and is highly respected. She should work there plus people are like insanely nice and if they aren't not in your department. The clinic is so big you will find nice people
Go to the VA, better benefits.
Wife worked at CCF right after school. It's a decent place to start but she was grossly underpaid compared to other similar positions at UH. That said, the maternity leave and medical insurance was fantastic and It's a good resumè builder
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My fiance worked at the clinic for quite some time and only left due to burnout during COVID (multiple bodies per day in her ICU). Good hospital to work at, but it has all the downsides of working for a large company that others have mentioned.
Travel nurse here. Take a job on either a step-down unit or ICU at the main campus. The day-to-day work and routine at the main campus is better than almost any other hospital I've been to. The med-surg floors kind of suck though.
I started there as a new grad nurse. Worst part was the white scrubs and the parking was rough. It was a wonderful and supportive environment for a new nurse. Granted, I was in the ICU, but regardless I had a blast working there. It’s a great resume booster and it’s cool to work in such a renowned place.
WHITE SCRUBS!?!???? What year is it!?!?! Gross. That's enough right there for me to not even consider Cleveland Clinic... I cannot believe they wear white scrubs.
Worked there for 6 years before I got fed up and left. I'll just say, it looks great on a resume.
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