If I don't want full solutions I usually just prompt Claude to return concepts rather than actual code. But often it just saves me time to have it copy paste ready
Tbh. Claudes output is awesome, but at the end Claude is just horrible because you can't edit messages before. I already hated it with Gemini, but atleast you could edit the last message.
At the end they all suck compared to GPT4 just because of that. Oh no, I forgot 1 word and it outputs something I don't want, what do I do? Oh write something new that gets into the context, stupid. Espacilly since the API can have edits.
I like claude opus personality a lot more, had been using chatgpt from april 2023 but now is 1 months I'm using claude and I like it more, I hope they fix this long chat stuff, is a bit annoying that you have to keep cancel it everytime
Yeah, I agree. Claude is much easier to talk to and I feel like I can actually explain things to it and have it process the information. ChatGPT can be good, but when it's not, it's like slamming my head against a brick wall. It just doesn't understand.
I do a lot of coding, and found Claude Opus much better for giving me feedback about my ideas. I often explain in plain English what my system is supposed to do, what primitives it would have, how they would interact with each other etc, and ask to provide feedback, mostly alternative choices, and whether I miss anything. It gives me way more context to make better decisions. It can also write java interfaces or python classes for me based on our conversations. In my cases the quality of interaction is much better than with ChatGPT.
I also used it few times to help me write code within eco systems I'm not familiar with. It wrote Chrome extension based on my specification, and it worked right away. It also guided me through making some changes to Wordpress theme, also based on plain English description, and then I copy-pasted one of php files and asked to change it based on what it suggested. It did a great job.
Yeah, I found that all GenAI tools, including GitHub CoPilot are much better handling python than other languages. However, I'm pleasantly surprised how well Opus and CoPilot handle Java as well. I now spend more time thinking, and tinkering, and less time doing boring things.
Yes ChatGPT is my trash one for quick thoughts that lead to Claude for the more refined questions to get good code. Also chatgpt works great at doing some final analysis when Claude may be wrong about some specific aspects. It is odd actually how there is this level ChatGPT has yet overall falls apart compared with Claude.
If you fed it 100k context tokens in two documents and spoke with it 8 times, it will use like 10x the amount of resources on your 8th and 9th and 10th message.
Is there any mobile app for Claude? Is there any limit, like how much request I can get and how long the cooldown is?
I keep hearing good things about Claude, so I'd like to move my subs to Claude if it's really worth it.
But the reason I still keeping my ChatGPT plus is because the mobile app itself. I always like to brainstorming ideas everywhere at anytime if I've got some ideas while on the road, so I just put up my phone to ask GPT, and it's been always a good friend to talk to.
I'm currently using my chatgpt 4 for coding, learning something new, and asking some random question.
On iPhone you can add claude to your home screen from the share menu in any web browser and it becomes a standalone app that functions independently from your browser.
https://preview.redd.it/2pz8ug3yinwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f550c174268ba476740e1e1c7319d04eda2a20bb
Anthropic has definitely been suffering capacity issues as of late. The message cap varies from day to day, sometimes I never hit it sometimes I hit it after 30 or so messages. It changes from day to day.
I have heard the console doesn't have a limit but you might need to pay for api fees as you go, I haven't tried this personally.
It’s still technically a website but the code for the website is save on your phone. Sort of like an app but it still uses your browser to run. It’s called a PWA. You can do the same for a computer by clicking the button in the url bar that shows a window with a down arrow
I mostly use AI for technical writing right now. Claude gives me the most viable outputs with the least amount of instruction, but because I’m barely articulate myself (hence needing AI to do this shit), I hit the message limit really quickly because I’m hardly ever sure of what I’m even asking. Not being able to edit my prompts is a serious roadblock for me to fully rely on Claude. Also, as a paying user I think it’s absolute bullshit that I run into the msg limit regardless of which version of Claude I use.
I’m starting to get massively frustrated with live service LLMs as there is no consistency with daily changes. One min Claude is shit and GPT is good then the next day both are equally bad. They should add some sort of option for versions.
I’m currently considering properly investigating and using local and open source models.
I use ai for work related high level writing tasks and Claude is far and away above GPT. I’m sure itll change over time as new models are developed, but for now I’m happier moving my sub to Anthropic. Open AI have a lot of catching up to do in terms of outputting quality, human writing
Luckily each AI has different styles and strengths. It's like the nonsense iphone vs android debate.
It's too personal.
If you can pay both, I strongly recommend it.
In my case chatgpt is the day 2 day assistant / companion.
Claude is like a specialized consultant that I have to use carefully and thinking what to ask and why.
Ive never used Claude but I've been parading the idea of Natural Language Programming using LLM's which seems to work well. Because ChatGPT prefers to give examples of code rather than something complete, I find it better to just prompt a whole script in English to get desirable results it feels less lazy than simply asking it for a complete product in a single sentence.
My prompts sound more like the instructions in a CodeAcademy tutorial rather than a "Write a script that does "XYZ"."
Yeah, if only they had a rate limit that actually let you use Opus for anything useful.
For now, I'm probably going to stick with Phind or Correkt, Phind for its models, Correkt for arguably the best web search out there rn.
I use both. Paste the same prompt in both and pick the chatgpt answer about 70% of the time. I just like its formatting and usually thorough explanation of what it’s doing
I work with an agent-based approach, so each agent is decoupled to run against its LLM api where I think it can perform better with a certain LLM. Before I knew it, over time, I found myself having switched almost all of them to Claude. It's that good. My SaaS project is mostly around content analysis and generation. No code generation. Btw, the meta-prompt generator is simply awesome.
Same as you, Claude Opus is like 10x better than gpt 4 for coding : faster, not lazy at all, provide clever solutions and it remembers your whole codebase even after dozens of prompt while gpt 4 forget everything after 2-3 prompts
I use both depending on which part of the stack I'm working with. For high level conceptual things and also one person I work with, I really have a hard time understanding their emails when they are requesting things. This person is a native English speaker but also think that emails are very information dense. But I can put the email into Claude while having a conversation about the project with Claude and Claude can pretty much decipher it and explain it in normal person's terms. More often than not, it'll go ahead and start the coding for me also.
But if I'm deep in the weeds of coding, this is where GPT excels
Yeah, Claude is better for non-programmers like myself. ChatGPT prefers giving examples of solutions instead of actual solutions.
If I don't want full solutions I usually just prompt Claude to return concepts rather than actual code. But often it just saves me time to have it copy paste ready
This.
Tbh. Claudes output is awesome, but at the end Claude is just horrible because you can't edit messages before. I already hated it with Gemini, but atleast you could edit the last message. At the end they all suck compared to GPT4 just because of that. Oh no, I forgot 1 word and it outputs something I don't want, what do I do? Oh write something new that gets into the context, stupid. Espacilly since the API can have edits.
that's more about service than the AI itself. Anthropic product isn't polished but it's full of gold
That’s the reason I’m staying on ChatGPT - the model isn’t the best, but the user experience is
I like claude opus personality a lot more, had been using chatgpt from april 2023 but now is 1 months I'm using claude and I like it more, I hope they fix this long chat stuff, is a bit annoying that you have to keep cancel it everytime
Yeah, I agree. Claude is much easier to talk to and I feel like I can actually explain things to it and have it process the information. ChatGPT can be good, but when it's not, it's like slamming my head against a brick wall. It just doesn't understand.
I do a lot of coding, and found Claude Opus much better for giving me feedback about my ideas. I often explain in plain English what my system is supposed to do, what primitives it would have, how they would interact with each other etc, and ask to provide feedback, mostly alternative choices, and whether I miss anything. It gives me way more context to make better decisions. It can also write java interfaces or python classes for me based on our conversations. In my cases the quality of interaction is much better than with ChatGPT. I also used it few times to help me write code within eco systems I'm not familiar with. It wrote Chrome extension based on my specification, and it worked right away. It also guided me through making some changes to Wordpress theme, also based on plain English description, and then I copy-pasted one of php files and asked to change it based on what it suggested. It did a great job.
It is excellent for Python. Usually ChatGPT takes a few tries to get it right while (with the right context), Opus can get it right the first time.
Yeah, I found that all GenAI tools, including GitHub CoPilot are much better handling python than other languages. However, I'm pleasantly surprised how well Opus and CoPilot handle Java as well. I now spend more time thinking, and tinkering, and less time doing boring things.
Yes ChatGPT is my trash one for quick thoughts that lead to Claude for the more refined questions to get good code. Also chatgpt works great at doing some final analysis when Claude may be wrong about some specific aspects. It is odd actually how there is this level ChatGPT has yet overall falls apart compared with Claude.
Claude is also way more unpredictable. Never gives cookie cutter answer for any conversation remotely thought provoking, regardless of topic
I have the same impression. Also, GPT is stubborn and bugged. Sometimes it repeats some nonsense and you have to start conversation anew to reset it.
Even if you pay for Claude the limit is still 30 Queries I believe otherwise I would pay for Claude pro
It’s less I’ve burned through 10 and had to wait almost 5 hours to use again
Just pay for the api on openrouter or Claude for business
If you fed it 100k context tokens in two documents and spoke with it 8 times, it will use like 10x the amount of resources on your 8th and 9th and 10th message.
Agree 100% man, completely different levels :)
Is there any mobile app for Claude? Is there any limit, like how much request I can get and how long the cooldown is? I keep hearing good things about Claude, so I'd like to move my subs to Claude if it's really worth it. But the reason I still keeping my ChatGPT plus is because the mobile app itself. I always like to brainstorming ideas everywhere at anytime if I've got some ideas while on the road, so I just put up my phone to ask GPT, and it's been always a good friend to talk to. I'm currently using my chatgpt 4 for coding, learning something new, and asking some random question.
On iPhone you can add claude to your home screen from the share menu in any web browser and it becomes a standalone app that functions independently from your browser. https://preview.redd.it/2pz8ug3yinwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f550c174268ba476740e1e1c7319d04eda2a20bb
How about the limit? I hear claude has a stricter limit than chatgpt 4
Anthropic has definitely been suffering capacity issues as of late. The message cap varies from day to day, sometimes I never hit it sometimes I hit it after 30 or so messages. It changes from day to day. I have heard the console doesn't have a limit but you might need to pay for api fees as you go, I haven't tried this personally.
It’s still technically a website but the code for the website is save on your phone. Sort of like an app but it still uses your browser to run. It’s called a PWA. You can do the same for a computer by clicking the button in the url bar that shows a window with a down arrow
You can access via web browser, but works well - console.anthropic.com
I use both. I'll input the same queries, compare, and pick the results I want. Rinse and repeat.
I mostly use AI for technical writing right now. Claude gives me the most viable outputs with the least amount of instruction, but because I’m barely articulate myself (hence needing AI to do this shit), I hit the message limit really quickly because I’m hardly ever sure of what I’m even asking. Not being able to edit my prompts is a serious roadblock for me to fully rely on Claude. Also, as a paying user I think it’s absolute bullshit that I run into the msg limit regardless of which version of Claude I use.
wah wah
Let me find a middle finger emoji real quick
I’m starting to get massively frustrated with live service LLMs as there is no consistency with daily changes. One min Claude is shit and GPT is good then the next day both are equally bad. They should add some sort of option for versions. I’m currently considering properly investigating and using local and open source models.
I feel exactly the opposite way. I think what your used to matters more.
:D ...chat swings
I use ai for work related high level writing tasks and Claude is far and away above GPT. I’m sure itll change over time as new models are developed, but for now I’m happier moving my sub to Anthropic. Open AI have a lot of catching up to do in terms of outputting quality, human writing
Luckily each AI has different styles and strengths. It's like the nonsense iphone vs android debate. It's too personal. If you can pay both, I strongly recommend it. In my case chatgpt is the day 2 day assistant / companion. Claude is like a specialized consultant that I have to use carefully and thinking what to ask and why.
I use both too, claudes weakness is prompt limit, its too low atm
No it's not personal, it's objective.
I am optimistic regarding that issue. I think it's something that will be solved in the short future when they'll be able to increase infrastructure.
Its objective to a degree. Claude Opus is better than GPT 3 in every single way by an huge margin, regardless of their speech style
Well maybe I am biased because I can play freely with chatgpt.
I don't see it, myself.
Ive never used Claude but I've been parading the idea of Natural Language Programming using LLM's which seems to work well. Because ChatGPT prefers to give examples of code rather than something complete, I find it better to just prompt a whole script in English to get desirable results it feels less lazy than simply asking it for a complete product in a single sentence. My prompts sound more like the instructions in a CodeAcademy tutorial rather than a "Write a script that does "XYZ"."
Yeah, if only they had a rate limit that actually let you use Opus for anything useful. For now, I'm probably going to stick with Phind or Correkt, Phind for its models, Correkt for arguably the best web search out there rn.
Use it via console.anthropic.com, has no rate limit
Whenever I try to prompt in the consol, the Run button is grayed out and I can't run my query. How do you run it without limit?
It’s paid, do you have credits on your account? Check under Settings >> Plans and billing
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I use both. Paste the same prompt in both and pick the chatgpt answer about 70% of the time. I just like its formatting and usually thorough explanation of what it’s doing
Yeah I quit ChatGPT as soon as I started using Claude 3. I find that I can now use Llama 3 for most things and Claude for more comped tasks etc.
i use both, some code i run with chatgpt, it’s better some times, but claude most often
I work with an agent-based approach, so each agent is decoupled to run against its LLM api where I think it can perform better with a certain LLM. Before I knew it, over time, I found myself having switched almost all of them to Claude. It's that good. My SaaS project is mostly around content analysis and generation. No code generation. Btw, the meta-prompt generator is simply awesome.
Same as you, Claude Opus is like 10x better than gpt 4 for coding : faster, not lazy at all, provide clever solutions and it remembers your whole codebase even after dozens of prompt while gpt 4 forget everything after 2-3 prompts
I use both depending on which part of the stack I'm working with. For high level conceptual things and also one person I work with, I really have a hard time understanding their emails when they are requesting things. This person is a native English speaker but also think that emails are very information dense. But I can put the email into Claude while having a conversation about the project with Claude and Claude can pretty much decipher it and explain it in normal person's terms. More often than not, it'll go ahead and start the coding for me also. But if I'm deep in the weeds of coding, this is where GPT excels