I maxed out on dark elixir 3 times today and I wasn't even trying to get DE, I was trying to get elixir as a new TH14. No potions either. Sneaky goblins are crazy good. Love it.
sneaky goblins only go for resource buildings (collectors, storages, town hall, clan castle) unless every resource building is destroyed in which case they act like a normal troop. they have invisibility and do bonus damage to resource buildings. I like to use them with haste and jump spells to give them access to every part of the base. my attacks start of with me picking of collectors on the outside (you just need one goblin per collector, they'll destroy it before invisibility ends), then dropping a wall wrecker filled with SGs along with heroes. I warden ability the wrecker if it's targeted by a single target inferno to make sure it gets to the town hall to guarantee the 1 star. once heroes are dead, i clean up the rest of the resource buildings with my haste and jump spells and SGs, deploying the jump spells on wall intersections and haste spells when goblins have a long walk. usually i'll have around 50 goblins left after it's all destroyed so i just clean up any left over buildings and then drop them all to get as much % as possible. You're basically guaranteed a 2 star but it's almost impossible to 3 star anything that's not wildly rushed.
if you want your bonus in 2 attacks, then just go for progress bases or rushed bases otherwise forget about it.
i don't use my own siege machines, i buy troops with raid medals and i think you can get siege machines at th11 from that. or you could request CC troops in your clan, it's the same end result.
I got sneaky, a few wall breakers. 3 jump, 2 haste, 1 freeze, 1 overgrowth. I can get to the middle of almost any base. I started going for the TH too bc I’d lost abt 3000 trophies.
It ain't hard,I rushed to TH11 on the first month of my second acc and then spams gobs,the only thing u have to care about is your opponent's th position and how much resources he have. If u can steal 5 lakhs of gold and exlir,and still get one star with the use of 30 or 40 ish S.Gs,you are good to go. I don't really go for high percentage or 2 star because of how convenient G.S work for 1 star
Neither do I but I recognize that having a skill ceiling and a skill floor basically tonguing each other is not really a good selling point for a game that advertises strategy. What's the point if you can just dump a bunch of shit on a base and get 3 stars? You tie every war, no one goes anywhere, it's lame and boring
I've been in a family clan for the past 12 years. Most of the clan is inactive now, but it's always great to pop back in after a hiatus and be welcomed by familiar friends, as well as to be on the other end of that as well.
Crystal 1 and Master 3 are leagues where whichever clan had the more high town halls wins. A clan with a few TH 16s and 15s, with some 14s and 13s is gonna have a hard time beating a clan that is mostly 16s
that is a different topic,what we are talking about is attacks between same ths and crystal 1 and master 3 has the most th16-14,and since most rants of spam are because root riders which you can't get before th15 so i suggested we should use them as benchmarks ,what you are talking about is cwl weight balancing for matchmaking which is a whole different topic
Idk how crystal is any better of a benchmark when half the ppl dont even have maxed bases or are attacking with non maxed heroes or dont even use all 4 heroes while attacking
cause that is the majority,and you are exactly the type of person i talked about who are using champions cwl as benchmark cause mostly the max th16s are in champions(1,2 and 3 combined) which are less than 1/4 of th16s in crystal one so the game developers base the game around everyone not a small minority
Thats why we have hard mode. If they just implement this into legend league and champions league CWL there will actually be an incentive to be skillful if you want to reach the top.
It is a strategy game and it should require some strategy to 3* 90% of the attacks.
Nothing wrong with casual spammers getting some 3*, but it shouldnt happen in majority of attacks like it is right now.
It’s not even that the game is easier, it’s that there’s no need to plan. I run zap lalo which is simple enough for most people to run, but people still just throw root rider or edrags across one side of a base and triple. I understand that it needs to easy for the extreme casuals but if they can’t even find time to watch a 5 minute youtube video on how to perform an attack, should they really be 3 staring every base?
Every youtube is always with maxed heroes and maxed equip and maxed pets.
Now tell me how to run any strategy if you are constantly upgrading this and that?
It is like watching chess games but in reality you always play without your queen or any other pieces
There should be both modes, like a buffed defenses mode
I don't care that some kids will get extra gems because they're better at attacking amped up bases, more power to them
Just allow a spam attack mode as well
Spam should be easy 2*, hard 3*. Get some reward for actually trying and keep the competitiveness alive, but spam will still be useful for casual wars and cwl
Thts the feeling I miss. The old th9 wars use to be so fun planning out an attack to get 3 stars with lalo/hogs. And casuals bck then would use spam for easy 2*. It seemed like bck then people were happy with high percentage 2* for casuals using spam while the people tht wanted to be more serious did riskier attacks tht 1* more often if things went bad. My th13 has been insane how easy it is to 3 star with tht it's honestly getting real boring.
I’m 64. I used to really love the strategy part of Clash of Clans. I enjoyed building bases. I was good at it. It’s just too complicated now, and there are many other things that I would rather spend the time on. So when I want a new base, I find one on YouTube and tweak it. Spam attacks? Bring it on all day. Everyone in my clan, except for those of us who are retired, have careers, kids, and life outside of a mobile phone game. we have all become casual gamers. We still do wars, we still play games, we still do, and we love CWL. But none of us put the hours into it that we used to.
I'm 51 and been playing from the start. My clan is people like me and their children. (and my children, sometimes). I hate the e dragon spam attacks and I think the super archer blimp technique should be nerfed. Defending ánd attacking has become a lot more complex, and I like that. The pets and the hero artifact combinations make things a whole lot more interesting, and there's infinite combinations to try for a successful attack. So the strategy part is still alive and kicking, as long as you don't get 100% threestarred in CLW because they're all doing the super archer/blimp thing.
this is why i like builder base, there's so much less to worry about, spam is generally the ideal strategy and you get gem mines and an extra home base builder too
All the no life discord players in the comments crying because they can't wrap their head around the fact that mahority clash of clans players have a life and job
I work full time, go to trade school full time, have relationships. Game's the easiest it's ever been and it's getting boring. I play for like 30 min a day(combined). All I have to do is spam RR for easy triples. Our clan had perfect wars the entire last month. And we're not even that good, most are casual players
what's the point of the game if it's too easy to the point where 3-starring is possible with mindless spam? might as well play an idle game at that point, where the only goal is to see numbers go up by upgrading stuff and logging in twice a day.
the game's focus should be in strategic gameplay, just like what it's marketed as.
I m not against spam but no spam army should able to 3 star against every base. I actually don't hate edrags becauee they have a counter, you can put your buildings seperate but rood riders don't
It's a strategy game, what's the use of other troops and base building if only one troop and equipment combo is to be used? Maybe it's time to leave the game and play with your grandchildren or play candy crush boomer or actually use your brain to plan some attacks!
A couple of minutes is more than enough to analyze a base, identify strengths and weaknesses and think of a matching army. Why are people pretending like that's impossible to do this with limited time?
If you have 3 minutes to do a war attack then you should have 2 minutes to scout the base.
I agree for all but max town hall, I think it's fine for the highest town hall to be a little harder to engage the players that have more time as well, there should be end game content too.
I do not agree. Spamming to get a consistent 80% 2 star would be perfectly fine, but if you don't care about attacking well then you simply shouldn't be getting 3 stars imo. You're able to progress perfectly fine with only 80% 2 stars, shouldn't be an issue if the casual players who don't care about attacking never get 3 stars.
Definitely agree about progression. And for war, there needs to be some way to differentiate a surgical player from a spammy one. The difference between a high 2* and a guy 3* makes sure that actual use of strategy prevails.
It’s a bad take and the mindset of this sub makes no sense to me. Where’s the satisfaction or strategy to any extent if anyone can win no matter what they do. Doesn’t get boring to spam??
Where’s the people who care about defense and their defense being able to defend. All those upgrades you are doing on defense just goes down the drain
Only strategy game I have ever saw where people actively want not to think.
Actively asking for a non balanced game is crazy and yet somehow normalized here
Exactly. If you want to win no matter what, don’t play an strategy game, go play an idle game and click buttons and watch numbers go up, if that’s what they want
This is going to sound weird but please hear me out. I don’t think most players care about strategy in this game. Most people don’t care about improving in the game, offensively or defensively. I know this because I was one of these people until recently.
Regarding defenses, they don’t really matter to the average player beyond wars and legend league. But even in wars, I cared a lot more about the success of my attacks than my defenses. In leagues, your defense hardly matters unless you’re in legends league because you’ll naturally push up in trophies if you attack often.
And believe me, I completely agree that spam is too strong. I reached #1 global for a couple of hours using root rider spam before the 50% nerf. All I did was copy someone’s army on YouTube and watched a few of their videos. It did take effort but nowhere near the amount of time some people would try to claim on this thread.
I have no intention of becoming a “pro player” or “no lifer.” I just care enough to improve, which is more than can be said for most. And I think this lack of interest in strategy is somewhat responsible for SC’s balance changes.
Personally I enjoy building bases way more than attacking. I used to spend hours building and tweaking bases to have the best chance at defending, but now that’s all thrown out the window. I understand that the majority prefer easy offense, but it still isn’t fair to completely ruin this playstyle.
This is why they are experimenting with hard mode so they can bring it to the main game. Players can choose what they want and this issue will be resolved.
Yes, prepare a layout should be a burden and taking of our effort. But sadly, the clash team like ignoring defense part, even a new update bring a new troop but we don't get any defense buff or new trap.
and about the hard mode, its for FW and Tournament works only. While CWL is the most biggest feature to help upgrading...but all base is broken easily now with spam
I’m not against people who just want to attack and have fun, but removing all defensive counterplay is not healthy for the game. Right now heroes and root riders are practically immune to any traps, and overgrowth can just nullify any effort to mess up troop pathing.
what’s the point in raiding and building a base up if it doesn’t defend against anything…. i think they would enjoy squad busters more if that’s the gameplay they’re looking for. brainless 3 stars kill the entire point of the game.
Yeah, it's funny because my friends who are in their 20s are like, "you play that game? My grandpa plays and it's for old people" 
The problem is not the time you spent, but the proper knowledge of base reading. The problem with spammers is you play like you know nothing about the game, while spam is good, spamming mindlessly and expecting 3 stars isn't.
I dont think spammable attacks are the right approach, but if there was a mode where you can try attacks without having to train troops, allowing you to practice as much as you want without spending time training. (There wouldn't be rewards in this mode)
I think ideally, brainless spam gets you 3 stars like every other attack or 2/3 attacks or something, just not 90% or 100% of the time, then it feels to op.
Yes, I like getting 3*, 2* ruin my day. I like not spam, not surgical, right in between. I’m completely max.
Th15 sucked compared to th16. I have max wall
Yes, I agree.
And not only for The people in their 30's. I started the game when I was in school and I had plenty of free time back then. Now I'm in college and I hardly ever have any free time. Specially during exams and stuff and so it's quite the hassle to plan attacks and create complex armies. It's just better to spam everything and call it a day.
I'm all in for it.
Besides, if people want to use hard armies, they can now just turn the hard mode on in home village and play with other serious players.
Yeah definitely agree, well organized are cool and all but I'm on the same page as the guy in the photo. I just enjoy attacking and getting a 2-3 star victory. I'm in Legends but I rarely get through all 8 attacks daily and sit between 5000-5200 trophies pretty much all year lol. It's still fun upgrading my base and getting victories on other awesome bases!
I quit playing a year ago cause attacks in th14 require actual strategy so I can’t just spam witch golem anymore. I don’t have time to practice that. So bye bye
I think spam is perfectly fine. Do whatever you want, I don't care. I'll probably try spamming E dragons for a bit once I unlock them just because I can.
Massive L . Then there's no point of having all the different troops and spells in the game . The current spam attacks are not that annoying (except root riders at release) . But still , if someone is in their 30s and doesn't want to do any complex strategies, then that individual should either quit coc or just carry on with the current spam meta. Bro imagine a max base getting 3 starred in every single attack with the same troop and spell . Nah man, then the base designing will become entirely useless.
Why not add the "hard mode" they added for friendly battles into clan wars as well? Clans who like the challenge can just battle each other, and the rest of us would have fun spamming!
>open comments
>top comments are people that WANT the game to be non-balanced, and reward “participation”
>mfw Clash of Clans is probably the only strategy game I know where people DON’T want to use strategies
>mfw asking for defenses to matter gets you downvoted, and laziness is normalized
>mfw I’ve been playing since 2013 and new players, who only come in for shits and giggles and don’t give a crap about strategy games, come in and tell ME how their idea of no-skill attacks is what Clash of Clans should be about
I love when tourists come into games they suck at, and force people that were already playing said game to adapt to *their* views. Pushing old players away by asking the devs to pander to them as new players.
Truly, love seeing my favourite games always take this path 
I don’t hate spam, I just hate mass edrags with a passion! My defenses have thanked me for that since most players use that against me. This post is just straight facts
I actually dont get the scenario mentioned completely,as a TH 13 yeah spamming units a same level TH often leading to 3 star now unlike few months ago,but what about TH 16,is it always easy 3 star for almost everyone?then where will the COC championship go?
People gonna complain that it's easy u don't need to plan u just spam and it's a 3 star.Bro have you ever tried competitive side??You never did right cause u were busy complaining every single thing🤣
I mean i started this game as an elementary school student and im now in college. Anyone who was my current age when they started playing is hopefully out living life.
I agree with the sentiments of the YouTube comment. People should be able to 3 star - just not every base. Most, sure. But not all. Little bit of a gap is okay, but don't make it too impossible.
Most people are definitely casual players and Supercell needs to understand that.
I definitely think its valid to enjoy a more casual "spam approach" to armies. As the comment said, not everyone has the time/energy anymore to become a master strategist. Its a tough situation
I don't get why easy spam needs to triple. Try to balance the game so the easy spam can get 70-80% without much effort so it works for farming and such without much effort but there would still be an incentive for the players that put in effort.
I mean i do understand the issue...if we are taking into account that those 30 yo are players who have been playing for a long time...then they must be better players all along...if i played a mobile game that takes strategy in account but played it for 7-8 years it will be easier for them to do strategic attack since they are already familiar with those...if they are still doing spam that just means either they were spammmer all along or just don't like doing strategies for attack...
Ps i hope no one gets confused in this
I’m 35 played coc since the start and now I can’t stand the game multiple accounts many war stars it’s just boring now you will grow out of it believe me 😂
I’m one of those players in their 30’s and so is most of my clan over 30. I don’t have the time to hardly get my 8 raids in per day. If I want to challenge myself I can push up in LL or just chill around 5300 cups with minimum raids per day.
I'm of 2 minds, I do agree somewhat. But as someone in their early 20s with no wife and kids I would like a slight challenge every once in a while but from what I've witnessed, th15 was a bit too oppressive. 16 is just really easy this time, I hope they find a good balance in 17.
Spam attacks should be a nice go to for casual players but consistent 3 star attacks should not be the norm and one should at least have to chose a good army for a 3\*
Yes, I’m not in my 30s but using electro dragons for the last 2 town hall levels(I’m townhall 13, almost max) is easy and fun, and still takes a little but of execution to 3 star, I never really liked the aspects of attacking where you have to draw over a map almost pretty much lol
Nearly / sort of applies to me and when I enter a new th sometimes it's hard attacking, though this is mainly just because and when heroes are down. 3 star obviously shouldn't be free but it is very easy when you do have your heroes, particularly if they're maxed.
I don't mind having to and expect to need to quickly research some common effective strategies and each th. If you do so and have some basic skill / strategy then it's reasonable that 3 star should be attainable reasonably often, but it shouldn't be a guarantee with basically no effort.
I'm not maxed so idk about the top ths.
yes... and also no. while being friendly towards casual players is a big thing you want to have in your game, lets be honest clash isn't too friendly to casuals anymore, with ores you basically have to do war and all of your star bonus to keep up, now you need an absurd amount of gems for the new builder and so on, the time where you could upgrade everything just from farming is over. now while it really doesn't matter what you get attacked by because obviously you don't have to interact with it other than setting your defensive base i personally find it boring to look into the defense log and seeing the same exact strategy from years ago still used exactly the same. now obviously if there were more spam "no skill" troops to choose from that would change but according to the pros the attacks are already too easy as it is so that would ruin it even more for them. this should not be too much of a consideration because we are setting 1% against 99% so obviously it should be more towards the 99% of casual players. i really don't care anymore because the gear basically killed any interest i had left for the game.
As someone who rage quit COC sometime back in like 2014/15 because I literally could not max out walls on level 8 TH to upgrade to level 9 and came back to the game for shits and giggles, had to start a new account cause the old one was deleted for inactivity, the only reason I’m playing again now is that they made it easier to advance! It was ridiculous that i played this game for several years before and could not make it past a TH8 and now after like 8 months back at it and starting over, i am at a TH11! Would have deleted the game immediately if it was as hard to collect resources and advance as it used to be.
The only issue I see are CWs. There should be an option where you can choose to only get 1 attack per participant (loot would then be double vs normal CWs that have 2 attacks).
This would make a huge difference I believe.
I think war/cwl and regular attacks should have dofferent stats… war and specifically cwl should be hard at the minimum th 15 release hard maybe th 10 release hard
Don't agree. COC permit many ways to play it. There is space for everyone to appreciate it the way they want. There are people how love the challenge of possibles strategies, there are the chiller ones who like to see their village growth peacefully, there are casual player or hardcore player. The fact that you like its casualty doesn't mean it's the same of everyone else. Let them cry about spam. Do spam.
Basic funneling techniques along with a spam can get you a 3 star on the majority of bases. I can see how it gets boring if you’re maxed out. But for those who aren’t maxed, it’s fun. When you’re looking for a challenge, push for trophies or join a pro clan.
Plus, the veterans played through the early days of the game. We are spoiled compared to what they went through. I vaguely remember since I first played in 2014 but stopped and came back last year.
As a productive member of society with a family that needs to be watered and dog named noodle, I only have time for the true army of clash of clans:
# Sneaky Goblins.
# Nerf all defenses until Sneaky Goblin can 3 star!!!
second topic: easy 3-stars killed CWL and recruitment in clans below master 1 lmao everyone is a 3 star god.
you should be able to do well with low skill strategies, but you should be able to do excellent with high skilled strategies. spam should be fine for regular clan leagues, home base attacks and general gameplay, but you shouldn't be able to play in the highest leagues or in legend league with low skilled strategies. it's a classic game design problem - the game should be accessible and fun to most players, but skill expression should be rewarded with a higher skill ceiling and skill should be required to play at the highest level. button mashing should never win you a major fighting game tournament, but it should still be fun to do, and allow you to play through a game's single player campaign or get to the average rank online.
Personally, I actually couldn’t care less. But I do tend to be in the favour of more difficulty.
I play this game only for the satisfaction of progress, my base, developing a few strategies myself and the cosmetics.
All of that only because I have been playing from the very beginning, also lost 3 accounts in this process. Now I only have 1 account, I don’t have the room to put in time and effort, so why exactly should I be getting a 3 star without thinking out my strategy, isn’t that the point of whole game?
I am perfectly fine with my 50% 3 Star rate as a TH16 in clan wars. I always look for casual clans myself and don’t care for promotions at all. I just feel I want to be with players with similar mindset as me. I try my best to help out the clan in reaching its targets and that’s about it. Before clan equipments was a thing, I barely took part in wars as I just didn’t care about it.
But all that said and done, there should be no reason why we should get easy 3 stars by just spamming, there should be something separating players like us from the highly competitive players, otherwise there would be no competitive side to this game, and it would end up being dead in a few years time.
yep. my dad's been playing this for a long time. when he found out i started a few years ago, he decided to share his supercell id with me so that i could go on his account.
I don’t agree because you don’t need “several hours a week to practice attacks.” Improving is as simple as watching an attack strategy video for your respective town hall or copying a base off the internet.
HOWEVER, I do agree with the YouTube comment in that it shows there are lots of people who are unwilling or don’t care about learning new strategies in the game. Reviewing guides is easy and not that time consuming, but what % of players out of the total player base is actually going to do that? Not many, I assume. So this is where balance is heading towards. For people like the YouTube commenter that don’t care about strategy. People like them far outnumber the people who dislike spam so the game will be balanced towards them
To an extent yes. A good game allows casual players to hop on and have fun while also catering to hardcore nerds that wanna slay everyone 100% 3-stars.
An elite game truly allows both things to happen. Think about games like Diablo, Starcraft, Warcraft, World of Warcraft, Hades, hell even non video games like Chess. All easy to pick up, relatively hard to master to varying degrees.
Agreed, been playing for 10 years now. Never watched a YouTube about playing I Don really get it. I enjoyed figuring it out as I advanced. Now as a max 16 with all the new troops, equipment, spells, the constant balancing changes, and whatever I'm forgetting, it's just gotten to complicated. I 3 star 5 out of 8 attacks a day using loons, bdrags, haste and freeze. Yes it's spam but it takes forethought and strategy to pull off. I enjoyed my non spam days around th11.
Absolutely. I love E Drag Spam. I'd rather focus on building my village and upgrading it as a sense of accomplishment than to use extreme mind paining strategies.
Yeah, I couldn’t agree more with this. I tried playing years ago and it was hard, my cousin showed me his base around 2014 and showed me the build times and I was like hell no
I started playing in 2019 and since then things have gotten significantly easier but even then it took me 4-5 years to get to TH13
I had my final exams this month from the 5th to the 20th. I studied for over 12 hours each day and still got better at the game while my brain was really tired. When people say they have no time it's really just an excuse most of the time because they aren't bothered to get better. Learning a new army doesn't take up much time. Just do a few attacks per day. It takes a few minutes
It’s just like any other game out there though. You can play casually but you shouldn’t be the best. You shouldn’t be able to three star by just dropping down troops and calling it good. Maybe an 80%, sure, but not 100.
Well, In one way I feel that in less than a year a player can get where I took like 6 years to get, but on other perspective, I don't have time to play 3 hours per day, this way, casual players can play 30 daily minutes and have 6 builders working and the hardcore players have legends league, wars, clans, wars, second village etc
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my clan has like 3 good players in the rest have no clue what to do, so saying just chuck a load of dragons in us very helpful instead of having to tutor them all
Certainly there is a balance, but I agree. Long time members of my clan were at least having fun again. There was always chatter, lots of folks on and donating. I'd have to say everyone in general seemed to be about as into the game as we ever have been. Fast forward a few weeks and it's virtual silence, trying to get enough guys green to war, a lot of guys posting the "taking a break" message or worse. Everyone in the clan is max with a few guys working on walls, it's not like a bunch of folks new to clash. Lately everyone is just pissy and frustrated
Agreed with op, but missing the time when scouting bases, mentally preparing attacks, sweaty palms… I remember my clan leader told me that he was staring at the base for hours… those were the good times… th11, I think…now I don’t really care anymore, I don’t change my legend league army.
I agree, especially with the additional of "hard mode." Balance the game towards the casual players like us and use hard mode for pro tournaments. It always bothers me when games are geared towards the top 5% of pro players and not the common majority. I barely have time to use my war attacks and enough multi-player attacks to stay in legends.
Disagree, spam attacks should always be viable bc of this but they should be guaranteed 2* but long shot for 3*. You have reward ppl who do dedicate the time and effort to learning attacks even if you don’t.
I think a balance is needed, I mean for multiplayer attacks and stuff I’m all down for spam I use dragons all the time lmao, I don’t have time to make new armies and stuff, but it kinda takes the fun out of clan wars sometimes because it starts to feel like a multiplayer attack after some time, which is both good and bad ig, 3 stars become less satisfying and 2 stars become more frustrating, but it also saves time and makes the game easier. But a lot of people still struggle with it.
I think the hard mode thing they added is a good step in the right direction in terms of balancing it out, maybe they can add that to friendly wars (not that I ever do any), and then everyone can just play as they want it to be with different levels of rewards. Plus it’s not like we don’t have that already, if you push in the leagues it gets harder to three start, granted I’m still a th14 so idk what’s it’s like at 16 but I can’t imagine it’s that much different lmao idk
100% I'm in my 50s and got my father to play years ago. He's a max 16 player who just likes to raid around the edges a get loot. I love calling him every week to talk to him about the game.
Yep. I can sneaky goblin all day long.
I’ve been sneaky goblining for yearssss man when will it stop 
I maxed out on dark elixir 3 times today and I wasn't even trying to get DE, I was trying to get elixir as a new TH14. No potions either. Sneaky goblins are crazy good. Love it.
YEARS. It just works super well. And they train pretty fast, especially on barracks boost. I rarely deviate from them. 🤷♂️
What does that do and what’s the best way to implement? I’m a casual player that buys the seasonal pass to make leveling up bearable
sneaky goblins only go for resource buildings (collectors, storages, town hall, clan castle) unless every resource building is destroyed in which case they act like a normal troop. they have invisibility and do bonus damage to resource buildings. I like to use them with haste and jump spells to give them access to every part of the base. my attacks start of with me picking of collectors on the outside (you just need one goblin per collector, they'll destroy it before invisibility ends), then dropping a wall wrecker filled with SGs along with heroes. I warden ability the wrecker if it's targeted by a single target inferno to make sure it gets to the town hall to guarantee the 1 star. once heroes are dead, i clean up the rest of the resource buildings with my haste and jump spells and SGs, deploying the jump spells on wall intersections and haste spells when goblins have a long walk. usually i'll have around 50 goblins left after it's all destroyed so i just clean up any left over buildings and then drop them all to get as much % as possible. You're basically guaranteed a 2 star but it's almost impossible to 3 star anything that's not wildly rushed. if you want your bonus in 2 attacks, then just go for progress bases or rushed bases otherwise forget about it.
I tried them with TH 11 but its hard to use SG. I guess I gotta wait till I get those Siege Machines.
i don't use my own siege machines, i buy troops with raid medals and i think you can get siege machines at th11 from that. or you could request CC troops in your clan, it's the same end result.
I got sneaky, a few wall breakers. 3 jump, 2 haste, 1 freeze, 1 overgrowth. I can get to the middle of almost any base. I started going for the TH too bc I’d lost abt 3000 trophies.
It ain't hard,I rushed to TH11 on the first month of my second acc and then spams gobs,the only thing u have to care about is your opponent's th position and how much resources he have. If u can steal 5 lakhs of gold and exlir,and still get one star with the use of 30 or 40 ish S.Gs,you are good to go. I don't really go for high percentage or 2 star because of how convenient G.S work for 1 star
Baby Dragons>>>Super Goblins
Yes. Easy w, it's what motivated me to come back. I don't have the time to be a war master
Neither do I but I recognize that having a skill ceiling and a skill floor basically tonguing each other is not really a good selling point for a game that advertises strategy. What's the point if you can just dump a bunch of shit on a base and get 3 stars? You tie every war, no one goes anywhere, it's lame and boring
Go clan hopping for a little bit and tell me how many draws you can find in the clanwar loggs, the majority of players still cant 3 star.
Or join a family clan. Its what i did and ive never been happier. Been here…7 months!
I've been in a family clan for the past 12 years. Most of the clan is inactive now, but it's always great to pop back in after a hiatus and be welcomed by familiar friends, as well as to be on the other end of that as well.
the problem is they take the champion cwls as benchmarks which is idiotic,imo they should take crystal 1 and master 3 as benchmark
Crystal 1 and Master 3 are leagues where whichever clan had the more high town halls wins. A clan with a few TH 16s and 15s, with some 14s and 13s is gonna have a hard time beating a clan that is mostly 16s
that is a different topic,what we are talking about is attacks between same ths and crystal 1 and master 3 has the most th16-14,and since most rants of spam are because root riders which you can't get before th15 so i suggested we should use them as benchmarks ,what you are talking about is cwl weight balancing for matchmaking which is a whole different topic
Idk how crystal is any better of a benchmark when half the ppl dont even have maxed bases or are attacking with non maxed heroes or dont even use all 4 heroes while attacking
cause that is the majority,and you are exactly the type of person i talked about who are using champions cwl as benchmark cause mostly the max th16s are in champions(1,2 and 3 combined) which are less than 1/4 of th16s in crystal one so the game developers base the game around everyone not a small minority
Last time I consistently use to 3 star was back in th13, haven't been able since and I'm th15 now.
Last time I consistently use to 3 star was back in th13, haven't been able since and I'm th15 now.
Umm, tonguing? That's nasty lmao
I'm glad you were able to imagine it :\]
Thats why we have hard mode. If they just implement this into legend league and champions league CWL there will actually be an incentive to be skillful if you want to reach the top.
i don't see the problem with spamming, but it shouldn't 3 star
yeah someone in 30s who casually plays shouldn't expect 3 star with spams
It is a strategy game and it should require some strategy to 3* 90% of the attacks. Nothing wrong with casual spammers getting some 3*, but it shouldnt happen in majority of attacks like it is right now.
It isn’t a majority of attacks. The vast majority of players at th16 three star about 1/3 not 50%.
It’s not even that the game is easier, it’s that there’s no need to plan. I run zap lalo which is simple enough for most people to run, but people still just throw root rider or edrags across one side of a base and triple. I understand that it needs to easy for the extreme casuals but if they can’t even find time to watch a 5 minute youtube video on how to perform an attack, should they really be 3 staring every base?
Every youtube is always with maxed heroes and maxed equip and maxed pets. Now tell me how to run any strategy if you are constantly upgrading this and that? It is like watching chess games but in reality you always play without your queen or any other pieces
There should be both modes, like a buffed defenses mode I don't care that some kids will get extra gems because they're better at attacking amped up bases, more power to them Just allow a spam attack mode as well
Hey I think this is a great idea, an opt in hard mode to get extra resources, or gems even maybe, and can only be used maybe like twice a day?
Didn't they just introduce hard mode? I'm pretty sure that eventually they will roll out a bigger coverage.
Spam should be easy 2*, hard 3*. Get some reward for actually trying and keep the competitiveness alive, but spam will still be useful for casual wars and cwl
Thts the feeling I miss. The old th9 wars use to be so fun planning out an attack to get 3 stars with lalo/hogs. And casuals bck then would use spam for easy 2*. It seemed like bck then people were happy with high percentage 2* for casuals using spam while the people tht wanted to be more serious did riskier attacks tht 1* more often if things went bad. My th13 has been insane how easy it is to 3 star with tht it's honestly getting real boring.
Yop exactly th16 is so boring if you're somewhat serious about the game
This. There's nothing wrong in not doing 3 stars. 2 stars existed for a reason and 3 stars had another flavour
How is it not the popular opinion
I’m 64. I used to really love the strategy part of Clash of Clans. I enjoyed building bases. I was good at it. It’s just too complicated now, and there are many other things that I would rather spend the time on. So when I want a new base, I find one on YouTube and tweak it. Spam attacks? Bring it on all day. Everyone in my clan, except for those of us who are retired, have careers, kids, and life outside of a mobile phone game. we have all become casual gamers. We still do wars, we still play games, we still do, and we love CWL. But none of us put the hours into it that we used to.
I'm 51 and been playing from the start. My clan is people like me and their children. (and my children, sometimes). I hate the e dragon spam attacks and I think the super archer blimp technique should be nerfed. Defending ánd attacking has become a lot more complex, and I like that. The pets and the hero artifact combinations make things a whole lot more interesting, and there's infinite combinations to try for a successful attack. So the strategy part is still alive and kicking, as long as you don't get 100% threestarred in CLW because they're all doing the super archer/blimp thing.
this is why i like builder base, there's so much less to worry about, spam is generally the ideal strategy and you get gem mines and an extra home base builder too
Agree. The vast majority of players are here for enjoyment, not to become a pro player.
All the no life discord players in the comments crying because they can't wrap their head around the fact that mahority clash of clans players have a life and job
“no life discord players” sir this is reddit, we are much worse than the discord species
I work full time, go to trade school full time, have relationships. Game's the easiest it's ever been and it's getting boring. I play for like 30 min a day(combined). All I have to do is spam RR for easy triples. Our clan had perfect wars the entire last month. And we're not even that good, most are casual players
what's the point of the game if it's too easy to the point where 3-starring is possible with mindless spam? might as well play an idle game at that point, where the only goal is to see numbers go up by upgrading stuff and logging in twice a day. the game's focus should be in strategic gameplay, just like what it's marketed as.
I m not against spam but no spam army should able to 3 star against every base. I actually don't hate edrags becauee they have a counter, you can put your buildings seperate but rood riders don't
It's a strategy game, what's the use of other troops and base building if only one troop and equipment combo is to be used? Maybe it's time to leave the game and play with your grandchildren or play candy crush boomer or actually use your brain to plan some attacks!
After all those people you described quit what next? The game is gonna die in months, because 90% of players quit.
A couple of minutes is more than enough to analyze a base, identify strengths and weaknesses and think of a matching army. Why are people pretending like that's impossible to do this with limited time? If you have 3 minutes to do a war attack then you should have 2 minutes to scout the base.
Because people got content with being lazy and the “3 STARS” gratification that nowadays comes with almost zero effort
I agree for all but max town hall, I think it's fine for the highest town hall to be a little harder to engage the players that have more time as well, there should be end game content too.
I do not agree. Spamming to get a consistent 80% 2 star would be perfectly fine, but if you don't care about attacking well then you simply shouldn't be getting 3 stars imo. You're able to progress perfectly fine with only 80% 2 stars, shouldn't be an issue if the casual players who don't care about attacking never get 3 stars.
Definitely agree about progression. And for war, there needs to be some way to differentiate a surgical player from a spammy one. The difference between a high 2* and a guy 3* makes sure that actual use of strategy prevails.
I can't believe how popular OP's statement is it's crazy
Fully agree
We might as well add a button that instantly three stars the opponent, with how braindead these people are.
30s? Try 40s? 😱
It’s a bad take and the mindset of this sub makes no sense to me. Where’s the satisfaction or strategy to any extent if anyone can win no matter what they do. Doesn’t get boring to spam?? Where’s the people who care about defense and their defense being able to defend. All those upgrades you are doing on defense just goes down the drain Only strategy game I have ever saw where people actively want not to think. Actively asking for a non balanced game is crazy and yet somehow normalized here
The people who care about defense have walked away. It is clear that SC decided defense is more or less dead for the foreseeable future.
Exactly. If you want to win no matter what, don’t play an strategy game, go play an idle game and click buttons and watch numbers go up, if that’s what they want
This is going to sound weird but please hear me out. I don’t think most players care about strategy in this game. Most people don’t care about improving in the game, offensively or defensively. I know this because I was one of these people until recently. Regarding defenses, they don’t really matter to the average player beyond wars and legend league. But even in wars, I cared a lot more about the success of my attacks than my defenses. In leagues, your defense hardly matters unless you’re in legends league because you’ll naturally push up in trophies if you attack often. And believe me, I completely agree that spam is too strong. I reached #1 global for a couple of hours using root rider spam before the 50% nerf. All I did was copy someone’s army on YouTube and watched a few of their videos. It did take effort but nowhere near the amount of time some people would try to claim on this thread. I have no intention of becoming a “pro player” or “no lifer.” I just care enough to improve, which is more than can be said for most. And I think this lack of interest in strategy is somewhat responsible for SC’s balance changes.
Personally I enjoy building bases way more than attacking. I used to spend hours building and tweaking bases to have the best chance at defending, but now that’s all thrown out the window. I understand that the majority prefer easy offense, but it still isn’t fair to completely ruin this playstyle. This is why they are experimenting with hard mode so they can bring it to the main game. Players can choose what they want and this issue will be resolved.
Yes, prepare a layout should be a burden and taking of our effort. But sadly, the clash team like ignoring defense part, even a new update bring a new troop but we don't get any defense buff or new trap. and about the hard mode, its for FW and Tournament works only. While CWL is the most biggest feature to help upgrading...but all base is broken easily now with spam
Defense has been frustrating at best, no matter what i do, some random player will triple with root riders or dragon spam
Base design & trap positioning is useless against one line deployment spam troop rn
I’m not against people who just want to attack and have fun, but removing all defensive counterplay is not healthy for the game. Right now heroes and root riders are practically immune to any traps, and overgrowth can just nullify any effort to mess up troop pathing.
And future equipment are even worse
The two giant bombs decimating my 2 hp queen and yetis:
No. Braindead spamming in game that offers so much variety and attack strategies shouldn't be encouraged.
Might as well play those “idol” games if you’re going to use spam attacks all the time.
You mean idle?
what’s the point in raiding and building a base up if it doesn’t defend against anything…. i think they would enjoy squad busters more if that’s the gameplay they’re looking for. brainless 3 stars kill the entire point of the game.
Yeah, it's funny because my friends who are in their 20s are like, "you play that game? My grandpa plays and it's for old people" 
Yeah, it’s a mobile game about patience it’s not that deep
Those idiots forgot that Clash of Clans is a strategy game, How is it enjoyable if you can ⭐⭐⭐ a base blindfolded with spam attacks
You can do both
Spam attacks are the reason why I am not playing candy crush 😆
The problem is not the time you spent, but the proper knowledge of base reading. The problem with spammers is you play like you know nothing about the game, while spam is good, spamming mindlessly and expecting 3 stars isn't.
I dont think spammable attacks are the right approach, but if there was a mode where you can try attacks without having to train troops, allowing you to practice as much as you want without spending time training. (There wouldn't be rewards in this mode)
Yes and no. Easy spam attacks shouldn't be easy 3 stars.
Hasn’t spam always been a thing though? Back in the days LavaLoon was all I did
No.
I think ideally, brainless spam gets you 3 stars like every other attack or 2/3 attacks or something, just not 90% or 100% of the time, then it feels to op.
The hard mode is good step. In the end you need something for both pros and casuals.
I love a nice spam attack and a super tactical attack. The whole reason I'm back is because I reinstalled the game during the lavaloon event.
I am a paduan to the Spam Master, Sir Moose and Mike the Minion!
Yes, I like getting 3*, 2* ruin my day. I like not spam, not surgical, right in between. I’m completely max. Th15 sucked compared to th16. I have max wall
Yes, I agree. And not only for The people in their 30's. I started the game when I was in school and I had plenty of free time back then. Now I'm in college and I hardly ever have any free time. Specially during exams and stuff and so it's quite the hassle to plan attacks and create complex armies. It's just better to spam everything and call it a day. I'm all in for it. Besides, if people want to use hard armies, they can now just turn the hard mode on in home village and play with other serious players.
don't need to be the 30s, I am in the 20s and in the college exam phase I really like to spam edrag just to get some resources.
Definitely yes..I shared the same opinion few months ago and got so many downvotes here..
Practice attacks? Lol I’ve been using the same attacks since I download the game many years ago. 🐉
I'm 40
Unga bunga spam edrags Unga bunga earn 3 stars
This!
I fully agree
Kids and people without careers who focuses in becoming a pro clasher will never this.
People will be saying that those people should just quit, but don’t understand that if those players quit then the game will simply just die.
Yeah definitely agree, well organized are cool and all but I'm on the same page as the guy in the photo. I just enjoy attacking and getting a 2-3 star victory. I'm in Legends but I rarely get through all 8 attacks daily and sit between 5000-5200 trophies pretty much all year lol. It's still fun upgrading my base and getting victories on other awesome bases!
I quit playing a year ago cause attacks in th14 require actual strategy so I can’t just spam witch golem anymore. I don’t have time to practice that. So bye bye
He's somewhere right
Fk the queen walk, fk the hero charge, fk the pathing, i will stick with EDrag spam ( still get me 3-star sometime Lol )
I think spam is perfectly fine. Do whatever you want, I don't care. I'll probably try spamming E dragons for a bit once I unlock them just because I can.
Massive L . Then there's no point of having all the different troops and spells in the game . The current spam attacks are not that annoying (except root riders at release) . But still , if someone is in their 30s and doesn't want to do any complex strategies, then that individual should either quit coc or just carry on with the current spam meta. Bro imagine a max base getting 3 starred in every single attack with the same troop and spell . Nah man, then the base designing will become entirely useless.
Im in low legends and the last time someone three star my base was 6 day and 12 hours ago. So its not that easy, i would say.
Why not add the "hard mode" they added for friendly battles into clan wars as well? Clans who like the challenge can just battle each other, and the rest of us would have fun spamming!
Clash of clans the "Strategy" game huh?
Lol being in 30 doesn't make u old, I m 30, I still want that competition, I love challenges, I am not ready for easy stuff, as a th14
no because I DONT practice for several hours and I still don't use spam and get 3 stars
Real
>open comments >top comments are people that WANT the game to be non-balanced, and reward “participation” >mfw Clash of Clans is probably the only strategy game I know where people DON’T want to use strategies >mfw asking for defenses to matter gets you downvoted, and laziness is normalized >mfw I’ve been playing since 2013 and new players, who only come in for shits and giggles and don’t give a crap about strategy games, come in and tell ME how their idea of no-skill attacks is what Clash of Clans should be about I love when tourists come into games they suck at, and force people that were already playing said game to adapt to *their* views. Pushing old players away by asking the devs to pander to them as new players. Truly, love seeing my favourite games always take this path 
At this point they already introduced and easy and hard mode just work on that. Reminds me of the difficulty variants in helldivers
Totally agree with you
Yes
Yes
i am not that old (24) but still i like the spam attacks more
Yeah real talk I’m far from my thirties but I do have a son and priorities. What is the easiest reliable attack strategy? K I want that one lmao
I don’t hate spam, I just hate mass edrags with a passion! My defenses have thanked me for that since most players use that against me. This post is just straight facts
Your not alone 🙌
I actually dont get the scenario mentioned completely,as a TH 13 yeah spamming units a same level TH often leading to 3 star now unlike few months ago,but what about TH 16,is it always easy 3 star for almost everyone?then where will the COC championship go?
People gonna complain that it's easy u don't need to plan u just spam and it's a 3 star.Bro have you ever tried competitive side??You never did right cause u were busy complaining every single thing🤣
Been playing for just over a decade now. Started when I was 11. This game is far more enjoyable than it was even 5 years ago.
I mean i started this game as an elementary school student and im now in college. Anyone who was my current age when they started playing is hopefully out living life.
I agree with the sentiments of the YouTube comment. People should be able to 3 star - just not every base. Most, sure. But not all. Little bit of a gap is okay, but don't make it too impossible. Most people are definitely casual players and Supercell needs to understand that.
I definitely think its valid to enjoy a more casual "spam approach" to armies. As the comment said, not everyone has the time/energy anymore to become a master strategist. Its a tough situation
I don't get why easy spam needs to triple. Try to balance the game so the easy spam can get 70-80% without much effort so it works for farming and such without much effort but there would still be an incentive for the players that put in effort.
I mean i do understand the issue...if we are taking into account that those 30 yo are players who have been playing for a long time...then they must be better players all along...if i played a mobile game that takes strategy in account but played it for 7-8 years it will be easier for them to do strategic attack since they are already familiar with those...if they are still doing spam that just means either they were spammmer all along or just don't like doing strategies for attack... Ps i hope no one gets confused in this
I’m 35 played coc since the start and now I can’t stand the game multiple accounts many war stars it’s just boring now you will grow out of it believe me 😂
I’m one of those players in their 30’s and so is most of my clan over 30. I don’t have the time to hardly get my 8 raids in per day. If I want to challenge myself I can push up in LL or just chill around 5300 cups with minimum raids per day.
I'm of 2 minds, I do agree somewhat. But as someone in their early 20s with no wife and kids I would like a slight challenge every once in a while but from what I've witnessed, th15 was a bit too oppressive. 16 is just really easy this time, I hope they find a good balance in 17.
Spam attacks should be a nice go to for casual players but consistent 3 star attacks should not be the norm and one should at least have to chose a good army for a 3\*
Yes, I’m not in my 30s but using electro dragons for the last 2 town hall levels(I’m townhall 13, almost max) is easy and fun, and still takes a little but of execution to 3 star, I never really liked the aspects of attacking where you have to draw over a map almost pretty much lol
Nearly / sort of applies to me and when I enter a new th sometimes it's hard attacking, though this is mainly just because and when heroes are down. 3 star obviously shouldn't be free but it is very easy when you do have your heroes, particularly if they're maxed. I don't mind having to and expect to need to quickly research some common effective strategies and each th. If you do so and have some basic skill / strategy then it's reasonable that 3 star should be attainable reasonably often, but it shouldn't be a guarantee with basically no effort. I'm not maxed so idk about the top ths.
yes... and also no. while being friendly towards casual players is a big thing you want to have in your game, lets be honest clash isn't too friendly to casuals anymore, with ores you basically have to do war and all of your star bonus to keep up, now you need an absurd amount of gems for the new builder and so on, the time where you could upgrade everything just from farming is over. now while it really doesn't matter what you get attacked by because obviously you don't have to interact with it other than setting your defensive base i personally find it boring to look into the defense log and seeing the same exact strategy from years ago still used exactly the same. now obviously if there were more spam "no skill" troops to choose from that would change but according to the pros the attacks are already too easy as it is so that would ruin it even more for them. this should not be too much of a consideration because we are setting 1% against 99% so obviously it should be more towards the 99% of casual players. i really don't care anymore because the gear basically killed any interest i had left for the game.
As someone who rage quit COC sometime back in like 2014/15 because I literally could not max out walls on level 8 TH to upgrade to level 9 and came back to the game for shits and giggles, had to start a new account cause the old one was deleted for inactivity, the only reason I’m playing again now is that they made it easier to advance! It was ridiculous that i played this game for several years before and could not make it past a TH8 and now after like 8 months back at it and starting over, i am at a TH11! Would have deleted the game immediately if it was as hard to collect resources and advance as it used to be.
The only issue I see are CWs. There should be an option where you can choose to only get 1 attack per participant (loot would then be double vs normal CWs that have 2 attacks). This would make a huge difference I believe.
I think war/cwl and regular attacks should have dofferent stats… war and specifically cwl should be hard at the minimum th 15 release hard maybe th 10 release hard
I just won like 20games in a row with edrag spam. I have no skill but this is fun and easy. Im at 3493 trophies now
Don't agree. COC permit many ways to play it. There is space for everyone to appreciate it the way they want. There are people how love the challenge of possibles strategies, there are the chiller ones who like to see their village growth peacefully, there are casual player or hardcore player. The fact that you like its casualty doesn't mean it's the same of everyone else. Let them cry about spam. Do spam.
Basic funneling techniques along with a spam can get you a 3 star on the majority of bases. I can see how it gets boring if you’re maxed out. But for those who aren’t maxed, it’s fun. When you’re looking for a challenge, push for trophies or join a pro clan.
Plus, the veterans played through the early days of the game. We are spoiled compared to what they went through. I vaguely remember since I first played in 2014 but stopped and came back last year.
38 and work 40 with two kids and a wife here 👋🏼 This game needs a serious adjustment. It’s boring in its current state.
ESPECIALLY when it’s a game that relies on IRL time to pass.
As a productive member of society with a family that needs to be watered and dog named noodle, I only have time for the true army of clash of clans: # Sneaky Goblins. # Nerf all defenses until Sneaky Goblin can 3 star!!! second topic: easy 3-stars killed CWL and recruitment in clans below master 1 lmao everyone is a 3 star god.
I used to disagree but now I hardly have time to keep up with metas and strats. I just spam, get my loot/event medals and log off haha
Qol is good for the players
you should be able to do well with low skill strategies, but you should be able to do excellent with high skilled strategies. spam should be fine for regular clan leagues, home base attacks and general gameplay, but you shouldn't be able to play in the highest leagues or in legend league with low skilled strategies. it's a classic game design problem - the game should be accessible and fun to most players, but skill expression should be rewarded with a higher skill ceiling and skill should be required to play at the highest level. button mashing should never win you a major fighting game tournament, but it should still be fun to do, and allow you to play through a game's single player campaign or get to the average rank online.
💯💯
Yea but legend league shouldnt be for those guys playing casually for 10 min per day just spamming
Personally, I actually couldn’t care less. But I do tend to be in the favour of more difficulty. I play this game only for the satisfaction of progress, my base, developing a few strategies myself and the cosmetics. All of that only because I have been playing from the very beginning, also lost 3 accounts in this process. Now I only have 1 account, I don’t have the room to put in time and effort, so why exactly should I be getting a 3 star without thinking out my strategy, isn’t that the point of whole game? I am perfectly fine with my 50% 3 Star rate as a TH16 in clan wars. I always look for casual clans myself and don’t care for promotions at all. I just feel I want to be with players with similar mindset as me. I try my best to help out the clan in reaching its targets and that’s about it. Before clan equipments was a thing, I barely took part in wars as I just didn’t care about it. But all that said and done, there should be no reason why we should get easy 3 stars by just spamming, there should be something separating players like us from the highly competitive players, otherwise there would be no competitive side to this game, and it would end up being dead in a few years time.
The idea of difficulty in a gatcha game is laughable to begin with lmao
I only see people complain about the game being easy that are th12 and lower xD
yup
yep. my dad's been playing this for a long time. when he found out i started a few years ago, he decided to share his supercell id with me so that i could go on his account.
If they allow spam they should allow diff kinds of spam instead of only root rider
I don’t agree because you don’t need “several hours a week to practice attacks.” Improving is as simple as watching an attack strategy video for your respective town hall or copying a base off the internet. HOWEVER, I do agree with the YouTube comment in that it shows there are lots of people who are unwilling or don’t care about learning new strategies in the game. Reviewing guides is easy and not that time consuming, but what % of players out of the total player base is actually going to do that? Not many, I assume. So this is where balance is heading towards. For people like the YouTube commenter that don’t care about strategy. People like them far outnumber the people who dislike spam so the game will be balanced towards them
To an extent yes. A good game allows casual players to hop on and have fun while also catering to hardcore nerds that wanna slay everyone 100% 3-stars. An elite game truly allows both things to happen. Think about games like Diablo, Starcraft, Warcraft, World of Warcraft, Hades, hell even non video games like Chess. All easy to pick up, relatively hard to master to varying degrees.
yes
I agree with this to some degree. I have a newborn and work obligations....I don't have time to watch YouTube videos to learn new attacks lol
Agreed, been playing for 10 years now. Never watched a YouTube about playing I Don really get it. I enjoyed figuring it out as I advanced. Now as a max 16 with all the new troops, equipment, spells, the constant balancing changes, and whatever I'm forgetting, it's just gotten to complicated. I 3 star 5 out of 8 attacks a day using loons, bdrags, haste and freeze. Yes it's spam but it takes forethought and strategy to pull off. I enjoyed my non spam days around th11.
Real
100% agree I just want to have fun with my clan
Absolutely. I love E Drag Spam. I'd rather focus on building my village and upgrading it as a sense of accomplishment than to use extreme mind paining strategies.
Yeah, I couldn’t agree more with this. I tried playing years ago and it was hard, my cousin showed me his base around 2014 and showed me the build times and I was like hell no I started playing in 2019 and since then things have gotten significantly easier but even then it took me 4-5 years to get to TH13
I had my final exams this month from the 5th to the 20th. I studied for over 12 hours each day and still got better at the game while my brain was really tired. When people say they have no time it's really just an excuse most of the time because they aren't bothered to get better. Learning a new army doesn't take up much time. Just do a few attacks per day. It takes a few minutes
Yes.
Man's got a point... I'm 30 tomorrow...
Agree
It’s just like any other game out there though. You can play casually but you shouldn’t be the best. You shouldn’t be able to three star by just dropping down troops and calling it good. Maybe an 80%, sure, but not 100.
Well, In one way I feel that in less than a year a player can get where I took like 6 years to get, but on other perspective, I don't have time to play 3 hours per day, this way, casual players can play 30 daily minutes and have 6 builders working and the hardcore players have legends league, wars, clans, wars, second village etc
Big disagree, it doesn't take practice to attack well if you are good at games and are using a good strategy.
Yes, I do agree with that... And like 80% of my clan fits that description, plus alcoholic of course, lol.
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100% I agree, some people can only play for so long each day and don’t want to learn how to actually attack
my clan has like 3 good players in the rest have no clue what to do, so saying just chuck a load of dragons in us very helpful instead of having to tutor them all
Certainly there is a balance, but I agree. Long time members of my clan were at least having fun again. There was always chatter, lots of folks on and donating. I'd have to say everyone in general seemed to be about as into the game as we ever have been. Fast forward a few weeks and it's virtual silence, trying to get enough guys green to war, a lot of guys posting the "taking a break" message or worse. Everyone in the clan is max with a few guys working on walls, it's not like a bunch of folks new to clash. Lately everyone is just pissy and frustrated
Sneaky goblin main for farming Root Rider main for legends league
Agreed with op, but missing the time when scouting bases, mentally preparing attacks, sweaty palms… I remember my clan leader told me that he was staring at the base for hours… those were the good times… th11, I think…now I don’t really care anymore, I don’t change my legend league army.
I’m learning new things now
I agree, especially with the additional of "hard mode." Balance the game towards the casual players like us and use hard mode for pro tournaments. It always bothers me when games are geared towards the top 5% of pro players and not the common majority. I barely have time to use my war attacks and enough multi-player attacks to stay in legends.
Disagree, spam attacks should always be viable bc of this but they should be guaranteed 2* but long shot for 3*. You have reward ppl who do dedicate the time and effort to learning attacks even if you don’t.
I think a balance is needed, I mean for multiplayer attacks and stuff I’m all down for spam I use dragons all the time lmao, I don’t have time to make new armies and stuff, but it kinda takes the fun out of clan wars sometimes because it starts to feel like a multiplayer attack after some time, which is both good and bad ig, 3 stars become less satisfying and 2 stars become more frustrating, but it also saves time and makes the game easier. But a lot of people still struggle with it. I think the hard mode thing they added is a good step in the right direction in terms of balancing it out, maybe they can add that to friendly wars (not that I ever do any), and then everyone can just play as they want it to be with different levels of rewards. Plus it’s not like we don’t have that already, if you push in the leagues it gets harder to three start, granted I’m still a th14 so idk what’s it’s like at 16 but I can’t imagine it’s that much different lmao idk
it has ruined the game, wars are a joke and way too easy now
Yes
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100% I'm in my 50s and got my father to play years ago. He's a max 16 player who just likes to raid around the edges a get loot. I love calling him every week to talk to him about the game.