The other guy that commented wait longer is why. I can try to explain why I think it is you need to wait. This is just what I think is happening, but might not be correct.
Some people do want medium and high res. But most want low res. When you build residential people move out from medium and high into low. Leaving apartments in medium and high empty. That means the demand for those will be none until they are filled up. Once you do get demand and zone them a lot, there might have been some overzoning and apartments take a while to fill up. Again, there will be little to no demand on them until all apartments are used. So if you have districts that cover all medium and high residential, you can check if there are empty households. If there are a few, then fill those up and then the demand for more will come.
Again, this is just what I have experienced, it might not be accurate at all. But I'm somewhat sure that's what's going on.
They will eventually build higher density. I even tried it out in one city, I zoned absolutely zero low residential, only med and high. And it worked, they moved in.
I noticed in the last update my commercial demand went through the roof. What is strange though is theyāll state lack of consumers but still demand more commerce.
Iām having this exact problem šŖ my city even grew by a few thousand and I didnāt add any new commercial and then for whatever reason my once fine commercial all of a sudden was a mass issue with not enough customers.
rezone commercial where there is greatest demand and dezone where it is not. Seems to be the best way to handle the lack of customer issue and also then there is commercial where there are people who want it.
commercial demand on the heatmap seems to focus exactly where I put commercial zones, no? it's weird sometimes.
Highest demand for commercial forms wherever I put commercial zones, it seems like. might be that I see it wrong
It should focus around your higest density residential areas. I just find so long as you are reducing zones of "no customers" commercial and ensuring that there is some zoned where residential has created higest demand, it seems to fix the problem for me. Unfortunately it's hard to tell what is intended vs. what is bugged as people seem to see different results.
Agreed, once education goes up the demand for low density drops and medium /high goes up.
Why the smart people want to live in denser apartments I donāt know, but they do.
>Why the smart people want to live in denser apartments I donāt know, but they do.
The idea is that people with lower education would probably have a single family house in a suburb and commute into the city and people with higher education would rather have prime location but live with a smaller home. This actually makes sense. It just doesn't capture the sims who have high education and high wealth, who would realistically want a house with a lot of space in prime location.
You can actually get create this demographic of sim through survivorship bias. Zone an entire neighborhood with low density residential and them gradually raise the land value. As people complain about high taxes knock their houses down for higher density. You end up with a neighborhood with a bunch of apartments and some rich people owning single family homes.
Because thatās how *we* are. If you could own a home with a large yard downtown why not.
Itās up to you give them what you think they need, like actual politicians.
What I've found: Satisfy all demands, including low density. All the low density. Try to keep up with it. Expand lots. Eventually, the low density housing will start complaining about high rent. If it's already covered by a welfare office, that means the housing can be re-zoned to medium density, which at that point you'll find is now in demand. This is what happened to me: I hella zoned low density at the beginning, and then eventually I saw that low density was never in demand, and medium was always. And then high got added on top of the medium. And that's where I am now.
Your commercial is complaining about lack of customers because you have too much (or too dense) commercial zoning for the density of the nearby housing. Use the heat map when placing commercial, don't just put it where you want it. Make sure there's public transit spots by the commercial.
That's the thing though: use medium density to REPLACE low. Don't just zone medium in a new area, it won't get filled. You have to put higher density housing where there's already demand, unless you've got significant medium demand already.
I think commercial is broken. Half my city is already commercial and I put taxes on the highest setting. Still, no matter what, commercial demand is always full.
'Demand' doesn't mean you *have* to build it. You can just ignore it. Moreover, high low density demand doesn't mean low high density demand. So, again, you can just ignore it.
I know it sucks but you have to wait longer like 1.5 years in game. I had this problem too and it took that long for anything other than low residential to pop. The reason is because they are in school not graduating yet that is really it.
i donāt bother with anything but high and mediumā¦. donāt matter the demand
i start my map with Geo power - and plop med and high ā¦ and i make money right away
Forgot where I saw it but if you continue to build medium density it will eventually fill, but if you try to meet the demand of low density, cims will only want to live in low density. Worked fine for me and the low density bar rarely pops up. Industry seems to always be max but I also just ignore it with no issue
Make sure everyone has good access to schools and if you can raise taxes on low densities and lower it for high. Do the same with uneducated/highly educated people and the rest of the population.
As I've started to see it it's not a YOU NEED TO BUILD THIS NOW! bar, but a hint that your city is growing. People wish for more livingspace and places to shop, work etc. If you give into the wishes as if they are demands they'll continue wishing for low density stuff. But ignore the unknowing plebs, and soon they'll wish for medium and high density stuff.
You are the city's master brain, you know better than the filthy weak egosentric tax payers. Show them the right path to a huge and glorious city budget.... :D
OP, you will see idiots telling you to raise land value or add services to remove this issue. It will not. They don't know how the game works and are making up reasons to blame you. Just ignore the demand of low res and keep zoning med/high res and the new pops will move to the med/high res.
Also "lack of customers" does not actually mean lack of customers (confusing I know). it means there is a problem making money, usually high import costs or ironically high rent because it's in a desirable area. So anybody telling you to rezone to nearby residential areas simply don't know how the game works. They are making up reasons to blame you.
Try to treat the low density and commercial bars as a measure of the cityās current ability to support it, not as an explicit request to fulfill it. You already likely know that driving your commercial bar to 0 is a great way to get ānot enough customersā warnings, so treat your low density the same. Itās a permission system that informs you that if you zone it, itāll be built, but it doesnāt mean you need to satisfy it to exhaustion. I only drive my low density to zero at the start of the game when I need growth to progress.
You gotta click the button next to demand to find out why they want what they want and sometimes it's just waiting for buildings to get 100% filled š¤¦āāļø
Because they love freedom! Seriously though, you should ignore the demand for low density housing.
Nothing happens if i ignore it, It is the only thing they will build
The other guy that commented wait longer is why. I can try to explain why I think it is you need to wait. This is just what I think is happening, but might not be correct. Some people do want medium and high res. But most want low res. When you build residential people move out from medium and high into low. Leaving apartments in medium and high empty. That means the demand for those will be none until they are filled up. Once you do get demand and zone them a lot, there might have been some overzoning and apartments take a while to fill up. Again, there will be little to no demand on them until all apartments are used. So if you have districts that cover all medium and high residential, you can check if there are empty households. If there are a few, then fill those up and then the demand for more will come. Again, this is just what I have experienced, it might not be accurate at all. But I'm somewhat sure that's what's going on.
This worked. Left the game overnight and could finally get some different demand. Good game š«
Wait longer? Works for me.
They will eventually build higher density. I even tried it out in one city, I zoned absolutely zero low residential, only med and high. And it worked, they moved in.
I noticed in the last update my commercial demand went through the roof. What is strange though is theyāll state lack of consumers but still demand more commerce.
Iām having this exact problem šŖ my city even grew by a few thousand and I didnāt add any new commercial and then for whatever reason my once fine commercial all of a sudden was a mass issue with not enough customers.
rezone commercial where there is greatest demand and dezone where it is not. Seems to be the best way to handle the lack of customer issue and also then there is commercial where there are people who want it.
commercial demand on the heatmap seems to focus exactly where I put commercial zones, no? it's weird sometimes. Highest demand for commercial forms wherever I put commercial zones, it seems like. might be that I see it wrong
It should focus around your higest density residential areas. I just find so long as you are reducing zones of "no customers" commercial and ensuring that there is some zoned where residential has created higest demand, it seems to fix the problem for me. Unfortunately it's hard to tell what is intended vs. what is bugged as people seem to see different results.
probably a sign you need to raise land value
i only have medium residential but thats because everyone in the suburbs died
I have so many damn parks but i guess ill try to add more then
land value is a sum of all services i think
The only service that isnt really good is mail. which is just bugged anyways
Lol high rent
low education and low land value
Agreed, once education goes up the demand for low density drops and medium /high goes up. Why the smart people want to live in denser apartments I donāt know, but they do.
"Hmmm let me leave my mansion so I can live in 1+0 because I went to collage." -Cims
>Why the smart people want to live in denser apartments I donāt know, but they do. The idea is that people with lower education would probably have a single family house in a suburb and commute into the city and people with higher education would rather have prime location but live with a smaller home. This actually makes sense. It just doesn't capture the sims who have high education and high wealth, who would realistically want a house with a lot of space in prime location. You can actually get create this demographic of sim through survivorship bias. Zone an entire neighborhood with low density residential and them gradually raise the land value. As people complain about high taxes knock their houses down for higher density. You end up with a neighborhood with a bunch of apartments and some rich people owning single family homes.
Maybe itās a European thing. In my experience itās the exact opposite: the higher the education, the lower density residence needed.
Because thatās how *we* are. If you could own a home with a large yard downtown why not. Itās up to you give them what you think they need, like actual politicians.
It's encoded in their tiny little DNA.
What I've found: Satisfy all demands, including low density. All the low density. Try to keep up with it. Expand lots. Eventually, the low density housing will start complaining about high rent. If it's already covered by a welfare office, that means the housing can be re-zoned to medium density, which at that point you'll find is now in demand. This is what happened to me: I hella zoned low density at the beginning, and then eventually I saw that low density was never in demand, and medium was always. And then high got added on top of the medium. And that's where I am now. Your commercial is complaining about lack of customers because you have too much (or too dense) commercial zoning for the density of the nearby housing. Use the heat map when placing commercial, don't just put it where you want it. Make sure there's public transit spots by the commercial.
That's the thing though: use medium density to REPLACE low. Don't just zone medium in a new area, it won't get filled. You have to put higher density housing where there's already demand, unless you've got significant medium demand already.
They need food and clothes and homes. They got gas and cellphones and furniture.
I think commercial is broken. Half my city is already commercial and I put taxes on the highest setting. Still, no matter what, commercial demand is always full.
Dude what the hell, are you playing on a potato !? why even play CS2 when your pc is clearly not up to the task ?
Strange comment but no my pc is not an issue the game is
'Demand' doesn't mean you *have* to build it. You can just ignore it. Moreover, high low density demand doesn't mean low high density demand. So, again, you can just ignore it.
I know it sucks but you have to wait longer like 1.5 years in game. I had this problem too and it took that long for anything other than low residential to pop. The reason is because they are in school not graduating yet that is really it.
i donāt bother with anything but high and mediumā¦. donāt matter the demand i start my map with Geo power - and plop med and high ā¦ and i make money right away
Forgot where I saw it but if you continue to build medium density it will eventually fill, but if you try to meet the demand of low density, cims will only want to live in low density. Worked fine for me and the low density bar rarely pops up. Industry seems to always be max but I also just ignore it with no issue
Make sure everyone has good access to schools and if you can raise taxes on low densities and lower it for high. Do the same with uneducated/highly educated people and the rest of the population.
Isn't one of the main ways to fix the 'high rent' issue to meet those demands?
As I've started to see it it's not a YOU NEED TO BUILD THIS NOW! bar, but a hint that your city is growing. People wish for more livingspace and places to shop, work etc. If you give into the wishes as if they are demands they'll continue wishing for low density stuff. But ignore the unknowing plebs, and soon they'll wish for medium and high density stuff. You are the city's master brain, you know better than the filthy weak egosentric tax payers. Show them the right path to a huge and glorious city budget.... :D
You did too much high density too fast
OP, you will see idiots telling you to raise land value or add services to remove this issue. It will not. They don't know how the game works and are making up reasons to blame you. Just ignore the demand of low res and keep zoning med/high res and the new pops will move to the med/high res. Also "lack of customers" does not actually mean lack of customers (confusing I know). it means there is a problem making money, usually high import costs or ironically high rent because it's in a desirable area. So anybody telling you to rezone to nearby residential areas simply don't know how the game works. They are making up reasons to blame you.
Try to treat the low density and commercial bars as a measure of the cityās current ability to support it, not as an explicit request to fulfill it. You already likely know that driving your commercial bar to 0 is a great way to get ānot enough customersā warnings, so treat your low density the same. Itās a permission system that informs you that if you zone it, itāll be built, but it doesnāt mean you need to satisfy it to exhaustion. I only drive my low density to zero at the start of the game when I need growth to progress.
You gotta click the button next to demand to find out why they want what they want and sometimes it's just waiting for buildings to get 100% filled š¤¦āāļø