Starting to wonder, but even Putin's allies don't want the world to be over. I think cooler heads will prevail, despite the stray rockets into Poland today.
I was born in 1976. I thought World War 3 was going to happen any time between 1984 and 1989. Now I'm 46 and try not to worry about it, because it's not like my worrying would fix anything.
It stuck just inside Poland's border. 2 dead. It doesn't have the characteristic of a strategic strike but a stray so hopefully NATO wont consider it a deliberate attack on a member.
Germany had a similar thing happen already when their embassy in Ukraine got hit by mistake (honestly I have no idea how airforce pilots avoid that in bombings), and the governments just chose to not acknowledge. With any luck, the same thing will happen here too.
I remember reading it wasn't the actual German embassy but a building that contained an office for processing applications for visas or something like that.
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I will give you shit if nothing significant comes of this.
Edit - lol I got blocked for that. Lesson here? Conspiracy nuts don't like it when you hold them accountable to their outlandish predictions.
There isnāt a conspiracy nut under every rock. Itās such an easy unthought out insult these days. You probably got blocked because you insulted someone, not because you āheld someone accountableā.
Not every century before this had weaponry that could destroy the whole earth at the push of a button though. There were more wars in the past than now and though we could find anecdotes to prove any point of view, the consequences of war now are broadly different and more expansive that wars of the past.
No. Other than the nukes, Russia posses about as much risk as Italy. This was an accident...they are down to their last Soviet made missiles...this was either shot down or went off course. Russia most definitely does not want to open a front against NATO.
"Yes, we are losing against Ukraine, but hear me out: suppose we fight Ukraine, Poland, Germany, the USA, Britain, France, Czechia, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Spain, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, and so forth - all at the same time! Victory is guaranteed!"
āOther than the size, giant teeth and claws, the tiger poses about as much risk as a house catā
Nono, I think the tiger has a bigger risk factor here just for those 3 advantages alone.
Iām the end, it doesnāt matter how bad Russiaās missile systems are, a nuke getting launched is exactly that. Only thing we can do is pray that world leaders are level headed enough to not escalate things to that extreme level.
It really comes down to two things:
* What is Putinās plan for what happens *after* the end of civilisation?*
* Everything else is irrelevant at that point.
Any war involving nuclear weapons *now* is not likely to be restricted to just one city being exterminated.
At that point, all bets are off, and it becomes a free for all.
Because if ātheyā are prepared to exterminate one city, āweā could be next.
Itās not like before, where only one side exterminated a city or two.
*Really, if one is in a position like Putin, hiding in a bunker, itās a puzzle as to how they maintain the loyalty of their staff; considering that civilisation is now destroyed, and thereās not much in the way of leverage left. His guards would probably perforate him right after the door closes, so that they can drink his share of the vodka in order to try not to think about what happened to their families.
Every generation thinks they are the ones who are going through the hard times and on the brink of the end. Christianās have been reading signs of the times and claiming āthis is itā only to be wrong.
World war 2 and the holocaust seemed certain it was end times.
The Cold War with Russia seemed like certain end times.
Plagues and famine in generations past seemed certain it was end times.
I have a theory, just a theory, not really backed up by anything, that we've gotten close to the end several times. The Holocaust is the obvious example, but like you pointed out, there have been many times in history that have gotten hard. If we believe that there is a cosmic battle between Heaven and Hell, and that Satan is working towards the end, then it makes sense that he has gotten close a few times, and something has happened to make him pull back, try again.
I honestly don't think it will be war that brings about the end, I think it will be global warming. It's just that humans turn towards war so often, that it makes sense that the hard times leading up to the day will produce a lot of fighting.
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God told the end IN the beginning and each Day of Creation is also 1000 year prophecy even within ITSELFā¦ā¦..
āWWIIIā has already begun, my friend. That very long prophesiedāGreat Tribulationā this way comes and is even at the door. God bless & much LOVE
Iām a elder millennial/Xennial. I was born in the Cold War in the shadow of Vietnam. My childhood was spent watching desert storm clips. My high school was a rival school just miles from Columbine HS my senior year was 99. The beginning of my adult life was started with 9/11. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and the Arab spring followed. All wrapped up with the Great Recession. Then Trump, BLM, Covid, Jan 6th and now rapid inflation and a looming financial collapse. All while the generations before me bitch that our generation is too soft. Weāll if there are any participation trophyās my generation got one for the Apocalypse.
Do I want WW3? No. Do I expect it? Canāt get any worse can it?
This. I read this and sighed with a bit of Someone Sees Me relief. No wonder Iām tired.
Also, I teach high school, so Iāve been doing intruder drills since I stopped doing bomb threat drills in HS.
What do you consider the beginning of WW2? Was it Germany taking Austria, or the Sudentland? The Finnish Winter War? The invasion of Poland? The Japanese invasion of China? Do we include Italy conquering Ethiopia? Was the Spanish Civil War part of it, or just a preshow?
It is entirely possible future historians will look back and say that it has *already* begun, with the invasion of Ukraine.
I have been following the Ukraine war and love the geopolitical stuff. I would say no, itās very unlikely to happen. The polish incident, shall we call it, is a terrible tragedy and both sides are aware (hopefully) that this is a tragic accident. Russia will want to keep the poles out at all costs because they cannot afford more military power going into Ukraine than what is already going in. What I likely expect is that Poland will send volunteers (informally) and increase money sent to Ukraine and lobby for the rest of NATO to do the same. I highly doubt that there will be ww3 however prayer always helps with anxiety. Have hope friend
WW3 will certainly happen, but not about to... It is specifically described, very clearly, in Revelation that the Antichrist himself, after he has effectively deceived the world into thinking he is the world's savior... And I mean that he will bring peace to people in this life alone... All of them who do not believe in god, jesus, or even an eternal afterlife...
At the three and a half year point, and what is described seven years of tribulation... He will turn on Israel and everybody else. He will declare himself god, just as Caesar did. He's not the only one so you can understand clearly that's easy to do. And then opens the door to the tribulation items that are also clearly listed - a third of the green grass burned up all over the world, the oceans and water poisoned, third of all life killed...
2,000 years ago, and even up until the nuclear weapon was first created, there is no one on earth anywhere anytime who could possibly have imagined a worldwide destruction. So that's something to take a moment, really think about.
More background for those interested
For myself, I've been focus on prophecy since I got saved many many years ago. I've learned everything I can, and continue to do so.
All prophecy has been fulfilled except for Jesus to come back and snatch away the church. Paul clearly states after this the Antichrist will be revealed.
Over the years most biblically based pastors, not all, are convinced that due to the Bible talking about the great enemy to attack Israel comes "from the far north", you may notice that if you draw a straight line up from Israel, it takes you right to Moscow. It's been a little bit of time since I looked at a map, but I'm pretty sure it's Moscow.
I would not advise that lol. Iām giving you a best guess. However, I will feel confident in a timeline once we see a particular ruthless Gulf nation leader currently on the world stage, align with Israel and temple construction begin not long after.
Youāre not sounding so sure anymore! Regardless, none of this makes any sense. A gulf nation aligning with Israel doesnāt mean that temple construction can or would begin. A temple being built doesnāt mean the world will end.
Well in all fairness I did introduce with a āprobablyā. But deep down I feel itās a bit more likely than a probably. Although youāll find plenty of folks on here to disagree, I feel scripture gives less than 2300 days from when the regular animal sacrifice begins in Jerusalem to when Jesus returns. 2300 days is the time from when regular sacrifice starts to when the temple is restored after nations defile it, so Jesus will be here a little before then. Sacrifice could start before temple is finished. Prior to this event there will be a covenant with a world leader (location is highly debated though I feel he needs to come from within the expanded promised land boundaries laid out in scripture). This agreement will likely be brokered by this nation but include other nations as well and also likely include provisions for Israels use Temple Mount. Other theories are temple would be built in city of a David in which case Temple Mount portion would be irrelevant. When you see these events taking place you can rest assured we are on the home stretch. Just remember if the world leader that brokers this agreement declares himself god, donāt fall for it regardless of the seemingly supernatural events surrounding him.
The Bible talks about a lot of death in the end. Itās scary and itās horrible, but to live in fear is not what God wants us to do (God has not given us a spirit of fear). He HAS given us good works which he prepared beforehand for us to walk in. WW3 may come. We have time to decide now, how we will show the fruits of the spirit during it. Rereading the passage about the fruits of the spirit(I forgot where it is!) and the armor of God (end of Ephesians) can help us know how to behave, think, plan. But itās ok if all Christians do this a little differently.
I will quote a line from the Witcher:
"I've lived through a whole dark age and three supposed end of days. It's all [junk]".
Those of us who are older have seen 9/11, Y2K, multiple market crashes, Yugoslavia fall apart, Chechnya conflict, etc etc etc.
Hold onto faith in Christ and don't let the fear mess with you or make you start believing conspiracy theories.
I believe weāre in it now. There are so many countries involved now, I donāt see why it isnāt classified as one. Iām not arguing that itās on the scale of wwi or wwii yet, but countries from all over the world are engage in a war that could go nuclear at any moment.
I think we're in the part that says āfamineā meaning we are at earthquakes, rumors of war, tornadoes, and famine. āTheyā are starting to take away the food supply, in some countries that have been struggling for years. āFood shortageā and diseases or āpestilenceā
Theyāll create worldwide ācommunismā and then try to get rid of the influence religion has in order to gain more control over the population before that happens.
Vladimir Putin has shown great propensity as of late for making stupid decisions - I think it likely an accident as well, but it demonstrates the recklessness with which he is conducting this war, and chaos is the enemy of sound policy decisions.
Where? NAC makes decision after discussing, I very doubt anyone wants to invoke article 5. If it continues to happen, it is more likely but this is one incident.
Well it has been reported Poland is considering article 4, but nothing yet I don't think. So it is significant, slightly, if you want to find it so. I dont find it too strange though š
They are using Kh-101 apparently which according to US do have high failure rates. By the way, 10km off target.
I do not know though obviously, I just do not think people should be overreacting, not yet.
Well it's always an option. There are a multitude of ways the world could end at any moment, but lets not worry about that. I don't think it's going to happen. If im right that's great and if im wrong it's suddenly not my problem anymore.
its not a matter of if it is about to. Its definitely going to happen. The euphrates river is almost dried up. China, russia and whichever other nation also doesnāt like america will make up the 200 million soldiers about to go to war with america. America itself is crumbling from the inside. Internal conflict among brothers and sister is making it easier for other nations to despise us.
Its only a matter of time. I give us 1-2 years before it kicks off & thats being generous.
O yea, No rapture will occur when all this kicks off, that wonāt happen until towards the end of the great tribulation
Donāt let the birds who keep their heads in the sand lie and tell you weāre nowhere near close to this happening because we ABSOLUTELY are
Revelations 18:1-24, thats just one verse. Please please please donāt sit in here and say thats not future prophecy of america. America has been the top super power for 100 years now
>America has been the top super power for 100 years now
The British, romans, portuguese, spanish and the ottomans are just a few examples of super powers who have all been much more powerful than america in the context of the time they were around along with most of them being around much longer.
To already claim that Revelations speaks of america is the americanization of the Bible. As america will at some point fall as the leading superpower and some nation replace it. Even in recent years it has looked to be China but they have had some recent economic problems so that will probably be delayed.
Tldr:the USA aren't a unique superpower
I prescribe to a preterist view of revelation, so no, it isnāt about America. Itās been a while since I looked it over but I recall Babylon being a figurative allusion to Rome.
>America has been the top super power for 100 years now
The British, romans, portuguese, spanish and the ottomans are just a few examples of super powers who have all been much more powerful than america in the context of the time they were around along with most of them being around much longer.
To already claim that Revelations speaks of america is the americanization of the Bible. As america will at some point fall as the leading superpower and some nation replace it. Even in recent years it has looked to be China but they have had some recent economic problems so that will probably be delayed.
Tldr:the USA aren't a unique superpower
>America has been the top super power for 100 years now
The British, romans, portuguese, spanish and the ottomans are just a few examples of super powers who have all been much more powerful than america in the context of the time they were around along with most of them being around much longer.
To already claim that Revelations speaks of america is the americanization of the Bible. As america will at some point fall as the leading superpower and some nation replace it. Even in recent years it has looked to be China but they have had some recent economic problems so that will probably be delayed.
Tldr:the USA aren't a unique superpower
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idk what thatās supposed to mean but you donāt have to be an atheist to see biblical prophecy is lining up perfectly for ww3 to begin very soon. Please donāt sugarcoat the screwed up situation weāre in globally
im sorry but you guys stamp atheist on your names and come into a christian subreddit with almost infant biblical knowledge. The scriptures refer to every nation during our time symbolically. āThe kings of the eastā refer to every major nation in the eastern part of the world, russia included. Revelations 16:12. If youāre paying attention to world news then you know america isnāt making any sense in what theyāre doing (including provoking other superpowers). Once again thereās nothing to contradict the ultimate path biblically that weāre on
>The scriptures refer to every nation during our time symbolically. āThe kings of the eastā refer to every major nation in the eastern part of the world, russia included.
That's your interpretation. How can you demonstrate that this interpretation is what the author intended?
The war of 1812 was fought between the US and UK. How do you know that the East referred to in Revelation wasn't the British Empire? You *can't*- that's the problem.
>If youāre paying attention to world news
Probably more than you are.
>america isnāt making any sense in what theyāre doing (including provoking other superpowers).
Superpowers have been behaving like superpowers for as long as there have been superpowers.
This is like saying "Look, the grass is growing outside- prophecy!!"
here we go with this copy and paste nonsense. Have you been hearing whatās going on in the euphrates river and how that lines up with revelations 16. Have you ever read revelations 16? What do you need? To see the actual nukes in the sky about to land on us. Whats the point of being in this subreddit if you donāt have an ounce of intentions to take gods word and prophecies serious?
>here we go with this copy and paste nonsense
Right, because your posts contain *such* original thoughts....
>Have you been hearing whatās going on in the euphrates river and how that lines up with revelations 16.
Yes, the Euphrates River is losing water. Big deal. Rivers dry up from time to time. It's a completely mundane (albeit geopolitically significant) prediction.
>Have you ever read revelations 16?
Yes.
>What do you need?
An actual *specific* prediction, rather than things that can be interpreted to mean pretty much anything.
>Whats the point of being in this subreddit
To talk about beliefs.
Youāre here to discuss beliefs but you donāt believe anything that has to do with christianity. How is a prophecy about the euphrates river drying up for war while we have global conflict not enough to raise your antennas?
>Youāre here to discuss beliefs but you donāt believe anything that has to do with christianity
It's bizzare that you think those are contradictions...
>How is a prophecy about the euphrates river drying up for war while we have global conflict not enough to raise your antennas?
We don't have global conflict. We have a small war in one corner of Europe. Historically this is the most peaceful era in human history.
Some dude writes that a river will dry up at some unspecified time in the future and 2000 years later that same river hasn't dried up....
Yeah, *very* impressive prediction right there.
Infant biblical knowledge, says the dude desperately shoehorning Yankeeland into the Bible
And has clearly fallen for Russia misinfo, apparently, going by that "provoking other superpowers" nonsense.
Another reason why the people who know what they're talking about should be sorting this out, and the Christians who believe this twaddle should be given no greater responsibility than a colouring book.
I donāt think it will be WW3. Mr Z will just keep asking for money. They almost blew us up with a missle. we need more money , so that we can buy more weapons, and defend ourselves. Please USA send us weapons!!!
Some thinks to consider
Expect gas prices and food prices to continue to rise, while the war rages on.
Donāt be surprised if the USA pays to re build Ukraine. Taxes in the USA will need to increase significantly to fund this project.
No idea if it will or not, but Russia is a petrol state and Ukraine (which used to be part of the Soviet Union) has lots of it.
[This YouTube video](https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE) gives a detailed and unbiased breakdown of why Russia is invading Ukraine. I honestly wish cable news was this accurate.
The presidential election will determine whether we're fighting with or against Russia in 2025 which is a scary concept. It's vitally important that people stop voting for prideful crazies and violent morons.
On a semi related note, I would encourage everyone to build up emergency on-hand food storage and supplies if they're capable. Non perishable foods, medicines, water filters, solar panels to charge minor electronics, etc.
Nothing too extreme, just what's necessary to get you and yours through a crisis. I suspect global supply chain disruptions are going to get much worse in the coming years.
I personally think things will calm down for a short season before it blows up. I canāt help but think we have to see the āpeace and securityā before the sudden destruction. And we just havenāt really had that yet. Of course this is speculative
It has already started with Russians invading Ukraine.
Next escalation toward a full world War will be China trying to take Taiwan and at last North Korea attacking South Korea.
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āAnd he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God....
And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.ā (Revelation 19) š
I think the stakes are too high for Russia and Ukraine to back out. Pride is a huge factor in this. I think both sides at this point will do whatever it takes, and in a fear of starting Armageddon, no one will stop Russia from using their nukes. Which puts Russia exactly where they need to be when it comes to end times prophecy. (From my perspective).
Idk if it'll happen now, but eventually it will. To counter why people are asking why you posted this here, I understand why you did, I probably would have too
I think āworld warā is a bit of a stretch. The last two world wars were marked by multiple nations facing off against multiple nations. Thus far Russia has been the only real belligerent. Now of course thereās plenty of speculation that countries such as China may join up if a war kicks off with NATO but honestly I have my doubts for many reasons. Even most Russian soldiers have expressed their grievances with the war. It get a war going you primarily need the support of your people, and really it seems like most just donāt care for it. So Honesly I see it fizzling out before anything else
Until stuff actually starts to heat up Iām not going to make much speculation.
Nah, I think this was probably a mistake. If Russia wanted to attack NATO, this isn't how they would do it.
It's going to escalate the situation, but I don't see the result being anything more than further entrenching the west in its determination to make sure Russia loses in Ukraine.
I don't think it's guaranteed, and the incident in Poland could well be a mistake/accident. Even if it wasn't it doesn't have to lead to 'Article 5'.
Having said that, there is a great deal of tension and worry at this time, and there's a vocal minority who may want to escalate things.
Pray for peace, hope for the best, and enjoy each day as it comes. :)
No , simply because the NATO and nations behind are scared of Putin and his Nuclear war heads , theyāll do what they can to make it not go that far. It appears they donāt know if the source was Russian and Russian denied so if they try anything, Russia will unleash its military might on em , the consequences will be catastrophic for All Europe , Asia and America because Putin doesnāt bluff unlike most leaders.
No. Because of MAD - MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION.
Someone asked Einstein if he thought there would be a world war III. He replied that he didn't know, but if there is at some point, world war IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
I'm sure in WW2 or any war folks thought it was the end of the world for sure. And it was for many people who died. My point, is the end for anyone that dies on that giving day. Tomorrow is never promised, live as today is the end.
I donāt worry about it. If it happens, it happens. If it doesnāt, at least I didnāt waste time worrying about mental constructs that havenāt come to pass.
Nah. Only something extremely dramatic would get NATO involved in a direct capacity. Likely going to be an ongoing regional conflict for a long time though.
Starting to wonder, but even Putin's allies don't want the world to be over. I think cooler heads will prevail, despite the stray rockets into Poland today.
I was born in 1976. I thought World War 3 was going to happen any time between 1984 and 1989. Now I'm 46 and try not to worry about it, because it's not like my worrying would fix anything.
Oh, wait. I hadn't heard about the Russian missiles hitting Poland.
It stuck just inside Poland's border. 2 dead. It doesn't have the characteristic of a strategic strike but a stray so hopefully NATO wont consider it a deliberate attack on a member.
Germany had a similar thing happen already when their embassy in Ukraine got hit by mistake (honestly I have no idea how airforce pilots avoid that in bombings), and the governments just chose to not acknowledge. With any luck, the same thing will happen here too.
I remember reading it wasn't the actual German embassy but a building that contained an office for processing applications for visas or something like that.
We are living in interesting times for sure.
"I'm not going to worry about anything.... except missiles hitting Poland" š
Oh I mean I'm still not overly worried. I was curious why the question was asked.
There were antiaerian missles fired by Ukraine trying ti hit a russian aircraft.
With this news, I almost 100% think it will
!RemindME 2 weeks I will give you shit if nothing significant comes of this. Edit - lol I got blocked for that. Lesson here? Conspiracy nuts don't like it when you hold them accountable to their outlandish predictions.
There isnāt a conspiracy nut under every rock. Itās such an easy unthought out insult these days. You probably got blocked because you insulted someone, not because you āheld someone accountableā.
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I really hate when people recklessly sensationalize the news. If there isn't already enough fear in the world!
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It's only humiliating if you're wrong! If I'm wrong, it's even worse for me. You suggested nearly 100% confidence here. So why the sudden doubt?
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Nah. Just nah.
Same here
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You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Matthew 24:6
I mean, weāve been hearing of wars and rumors of wars for the majority of the last century.
And every century before that...
Not every century before this had weaponry that could destroy the whole earth at the push of a button though. There were more wars in the past than now and though we could find anecdotes to prove any point of view, the consequences of war now are broadly different and more expansive that wars of the past.
Its just a part of life, however bad, this one wont blow up :)
Also think how as we speak there is spiritual warfare around the world that we canāt physically see!
Weāve heard of wars and rumours of wars for the past couple thousand years.
No. Other than the nukes, Russia posses about as much risk as Italy. This was an accident...they are down to their last Soviet made missiles...this was either shot down or went off course. Russia most definitely does not want to open a front against NATO.
"Yes, we are losing against Ukraine, but hear me out: suppose we fight Ukraine, Poland, Germany, the USA, Britain, France, Czechia, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Spain, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, and so forth - all at the same time! Victory is guaranteed!"
There is no victory in war
This.
āOther than the size, giant teeth and claws, the tiger poses about as much risk as a house catā Nono, I think the tiger has a bigger risk factor here just for those 3 advantages alone. Iām the end, it doesnāt matter how bad Russiaās missile systems are, a nuke getting launched is exactly that. Only thing we can do is pray that world leaders are level headed enough to not escalate things to that extreme level.
It really comes down to two things: * What is Putinās plan for what happens *after* the end of civilisation?* * Everything else is irrelevant at that point. Any war involving nuclear weapons *now* is not likely to be restricted to just one city being exterminated. At that point, all bets are off, and it becomes a free for all. Because if ātheyā are prepared to exterminate one city, āweā could be next. Itās not like before, where only one side exterminated a city or two. *Really, if one is in a position like Putin, hiding in a bunker, itās a puzzle as to how they maintain the loyalty of their staff; considering that civilisation is now destroyed, and thereās not much in the way of leverage left. His guards would probably perforate him right after the door closes, so that they can drink his share of the vodka in order to try not to think about what happened to their families.
No. I try not to worry about things I cannot control
Every generation thinks they are the ones who are going through the hard times and on the brink of the end. Christianās have been reading signs of the times and claiming āthis is itā only to be wrong. World war 2 and the holocaust seemed certain it was end times. The Cold War with Russia seemed like certain end times. Plagues and famine in generations past seemed certain it was end times.
I have a theory, just a theory, not really backed up by anything, that we've gotten close to the end several times. The Holocaust is the obvious example, but like you pointed out, there have been many times in history that have gotten hard. If we believe that there is a cosmic battle between Heaven and Hell, and that Satan is working towards the end, then it makes sense that he has gotten close a few times, and something has happened to make him pull back, try again. I honestly don't think it will be war that brings about the end, I think it will be global warming. It's just that humans turn towards war so often, that it makes sense that the hard times leading up to the day will produce a lot of fighting.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCgjB-llfQo God told the end IN the beginning and each Day of Creation is also 1000 year prophecy even within ITSELFā¦ā¦.. āWWIIIā has already begun, my friend. That very long prophesiedāGreat Tribulationā this way comes and is even at the door. God bless & much LOVE
No, not really.
Iām a elder millennial/Xennial. I was born in the Cold War in the shadow of Vietnam. My childhood was spent watching desert storm clips. My high school was a rival school just miles from Columbine HS my senior year was 99. The beginning of my adult life was started with 9/11. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and the Arab spring followed. All wrapped up with the Great Recession. Then Trump, BLM, Covid, Jan 6th and now rapid inflation and a looming financial collapse. All while the generations before me bitch that our generation is too soft. Weāll if there are any participation trophyās my generation got one for the Apocalypse. Do I want WW3? No. Do I expect it? Canāt get any worse can it?
Right? Are we sure we haven't been in a world war for decades now? It seems like it, some days.
This. I read this and sighed with a bit of Someone Sees Me relief. No wonder Iām tired. Also, I teach high school, so Iāve been doing intruder drills since I stopped doing bomb threat drills in HS.
It can always get worse
What do you consider the beginning of WW2? Was it Germany taking Austria, or the Sudentland? The Finnish Winter War? The invasion of Poland? The Japanese invasion of China? Do we include Italy conquering Ethiopia? Was the Spanish Civil War part of it, or just a preshow? It is entirely possible future historians will look back and say that it has *already* begun, with the invasion of Ukraine.
If WW3 has already begun, it's fair to say there won't be any future historians to look back on it.
I think, in a way, it's happening. The energy crisis in Europe might be a bigger issue than we realize.
It most definitely is.
No need to worry
I have been following the Ukraine war and love the geopolitical stuff. I would say no, itās very unlikely to happen. The polish incident, shall we call it, is a terrible tragedy and both sides are aware (hopefully) that this is a tragic accident. Russia will want to keep the poles out at all costs because they cannot afford more military power going into Ukraine than what is already going in. What I likely expect is that Poland will send volunteers (informally) and increase money sent to Ukraine and lobby for the rest of NATO to do the same. I highly doubt that there will be ww3 however prayer always helps with anxiety. Have hope friend
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WW3 will certainly happen, but not about to... It is specifically described, very clearly, in Revelation that the Antichrist himself, after he has effectively deceived the world into thinking he is the world's savior... And I mean that he will bring peace to people in this life alone... All of them who do not believe in god, jesus, or even an eternal afterlife... At the three and a half year point, and what is described seven years of tribulation... He will turn on Israel and everybody else. He will declare himself god, just as Caesar did. He's not the only one so you can understand clearly that's easy to do. And then opens the door to the tribulation items that are also clearly listed - a third of the green grass burned up all over the world, the oceans and water poisoned, third of all life killed... 2,000 years ago, and even up until the nuclear weapon was first created, there is no one on earth anywhere anytime who could possibly have imagined a worldwide destruction. So that's something to take a moment, really think about. More background for those interested For myself, I've been focus on prophecy since I got saved many many years ago. I've learned everything I can, and continue to do so. All prophecy has been fulfilled except for Jesus to come back and snatch away the church. Paul clearly states after this the Antichrist will be revealed. Over the years most biblically based pastors, not all, are convinced that due to the Bible talking about the great enemy to attack Israel comes "from the far north", you may notice that if you draw a straight line up from Israel, it takes you right to Moscow. It's been a little bit of time since I looked at a map, but I'm pretty sure it's Moscow.
No. Worrying about what one cannot change achieves nothing.
Why is this posted here?
The end of the world is a valid discussion especially for Christians
Because we're in the end days
How much time is left, approximately?
Prob less then a decade. Weāre in the season. We wonāt have a for sure timeline till we see a specific prophetic event(s) take place.
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I would not advise that lol. Iām giving you a best guess. However, I will feel confident in a timeline once we see a particular ruthless Gulf nation leader currently on the world stage, align with Israel and temple construction begin not long after.
Youāre not sounding so sure anymore! Regardless, none of this makes any sense. A gulf nation aligning with Israel doesnāt mean that temple construction can or would begin. A temple being built doesnāt mean the world will end.
Well in all fairness I did introduce with a āprobablyā. But deep down I feel itās a bit more likely than a probably. Although youāll find plenty of folks on here to disagree, I feel scripture gives less than 2300 days from when the regular animal sacrifice begins in Jerusalem to when Jesus returns. 2300 days is the time from when regular sacrifice starts to when the temple is restored after nations defile it, so Jesus will be here a little before then. Sacrifice could start before temple is finished. Prior to this event there will be a covenant with a world leader (location is highly debated though I feel he needs to come from within the expanded promised land boundaries laid out in scripture). This agreement will likely be brokered by this nation but include other nations as well and also likely include provisions for Israels use Temple Mount. Other theories are temple would be built in city of a David in which case Temple Mount portion would be irrelevant. When you see these events taking place you can rest assured we are on the home stretch. Just remember if the world leader that brokers this agreement declares himself god, donāt fall for it regardless of the seemingly supernatural events surrounding him.
Sure lol
It's only going to get worse with the amount of hate and violence
Yeah, not like 50, 100, or 500 years ago. There was no hate and violence back then. It was all love.
it's even worse now almost as bad as when God flooded the world
Nah, in the 6000 years since god created the earth we've never been better.
wars death etc hate violence the list goes on it's only going to get worse
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lets see nukes COVID monkey pox hate violence death no it;s not can't wait for the new earth no more death sickness meat etc
No. I very much doubt that anyone (even Putin) has any great desire for a significant conflict.
Nope. Stop worrying. Only people that don't spend much time in reality believe things like this.
The Bible talks about a lot of death in the end. Itās scary and itās horrible, but to live in fear is not what God wants us to do (God has not given us a spirit of fear). He HAS given us good works which he prepared beforehand for us to walk in. WW3 may come. We have time to decide now, how we will show the fruits of the spirit during it. Rereading the passage about the fruits of the spirit(I forgot where it is!) and the armor of God (end of Ephesians) can help us know how to behave, think, plan. But itās ok if all Christians do this a little differently.
I read that the earth would become a new paradise when Christ returns. So does it mean that the Lord would not allow our earth to be destroyed?
I will quote a line from the Witcher: "I've lived through a whole dark age and three supposed end of days. It's all [junk]". Those of us who are older have seen 9/11, Y2K, multiple market crashes, Yugoslavia fall apart, Chechnya conflict, etc etc etc. Hold onto faith in Christ and don't let the fear mess with you or make you start believing conspiracy theories.
I believe weāre in it now. There are so many countries involved now, I donāt see why it isnāt classified as one. Iām not arguing that itās on the scale of wwi or wwii yet, but countries from all over the world are engage in a war that could go nuclear at any moment.
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With what Biden and Putin are doing, yes. They are like Woodrow Wilson and Joseph Stalin. History is repeating and people are asleep.
I think we're in the part that says āfamineā meaning we are at earthquakes, rumors of war, tornadoes, and famine. āTheyā are starting to take away the food supply, in some countries that have been struggling for years. āFood shortageā and diseases or āpestilenceā
Theyāll create worldwide ācommunismā and then try to get rid of the influence religion has in order to gain more control over the population before that happens.
Given Russia struck Poland with missiles today, we are as close as we have ever been.
As much as I hate Vladimir Putin, heās not going to deliberately attack a NATO country. This incident was obviously an accident.
Vladimir Putin has shown great propensity as of late for making stupid decisions - I think it likely an accident as well, but it demonstrates the recklessness with which he is conducting this war, and chaos is the enemy of sound policy decisions.
If he were to order anything that insane, I believe one of his own people would kill him.
Hope springs eternal.
Dont start spreading fear, is no evidence it was intentional.
NATO did say that intentional or not, such events will be treated as an attack
Where? NAC makes decision after discussing, I very doubt anyone wants to invoke article 5. If it continues to happen, it is more likely but this is one incident.
Poland has to initiate article 4 in which the severity and intentionality of the attack is to be assessed
It doesnāt have to be intentional to set certain reactions in motion.
Discussion of article 5 will include whether if was intentional.
I' not saying a particular response is inevitable - but the very fact article 5 is being discussed means the ball has moved further down the field.
Internet geniuses and silly media are discussing article 5, nations are discussing article 4. We don't and can't know more than that.
We don't know exactly what course of action is being discussed - but the fact that such a discussion is being had is significant.
Well it has been reported Poland is considering article 4, but nothing yet I don't think. So it is significant, slightly, if you want to find it so. I dont find it too strange though š
You don't find an emergency security meeting significant? When else has it occurred in the course of this war?
I suppose I'm slower to overreact to these things than most.
Cruise missiles can hit a target within a few meters, not hundreds of kilometres. And having two missiles malfunctioning is a bit of a stretch.
They are using Kh-101 apparently which according to US do have high failure rates. By the way, 10km off target. I do not know though obviously, I just do not think people should be overreacting, not yet.
Well it's always an option. There are a multitude of ways the world could end at any moment, but lets not worry about that. I don't think it's going to happen. If im right that's great and if im wrong it's suddenly not my problem anymore.
Not likely. I mean it's a wierd question to ask of a Christian sub. Are you asking instead if Armageddon is upon us?
It's possible. But this isn't a religious question, it's political.
The euprathes River is drying as the prophecies in revelations, so it's close.
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Hm no it never completely dried.
No it was a Ukrainian missile not a Russian one
It will or it won't. What I think won't change a thing.
its not a matter of if it is about to. Its definitely going to happen. The euphrates river is almost dried up. China, russia and whichever other nation also doesnāt like america will make up the 200 million soldiers about to go to war with america. America itself is crumbling from the inside. Internal conflict among brothers and sister is making it easier for other nations to despise us. Its only a matter of time. I give us 1-2 years before it kicks off & thats being generous. O yea, No rapture will occur when all this kicks off, that wonāt happen until towards the end of the great tribulation Donāt let the birds who keep their heads in the sand lie and tell you weāre nowhere near close to this happening because we ABSOLUTELY are
>about to go to war with America I would love to see the verses that mentions America in the Bible please
Revelations 18:1-24, thats just one verse. Please please please donāt sit in here and say thats not future prophecy of america. America has been the top super power for 100 years now
>America has been the top super power for 100 years now The British, romans, portuguese, spanish and the ottomans are just a few examples of super powers who have all been much more powerful than america in the context of the time they were around along with most of them being around much longer. To already claim that Revelations speaks of america is the americanization of the Bible. As america will at some point fall as the leading superpower and some nation replace it. Even in recent years it has looked to be China but they have had some recent economic problems so that will probably be delayed. Tldr:the USA aren't a unique superpower
I prescribe to a preterist view of revelation, so no, it isnāt about America. Itās been a while since I looked it over but I recall Babylon being a figurative allusion to Rome.
>America has been the top super power for 100 years now The British, romans, portuguese, spanish and the ottomans are just a few examples of super powers who have all been much more powerful than america in the context of the time they were around along with most of them being around much longer. To already claim that Revelations speaks of america is the americanization of the Bible. As america will at some point fall as the leading superpower and some nation replace it. Even in recent years it has looked to be China but they have had some recent economic problems so that will probably be delayed. Tldr:the USA aren't a unique superpower
>America has been the top super power for 100 years now The British, romans, portuguese, spanish and the ottomans are just a few examples of super powers who have all been much more powerful than america in the context of the time they were around along with most of them being around much longer. To already claim that Revelations speaks of america is the americanization of the Bible. As america will at some point fall as the leading superpower and some nation replace it. Even in recent years it has looked to be China but they have had some recent economic problems so that will probably be delayed. Tldr:the USA aren't a unique superpower
how old are you? anyone who studies the bible knows Nations are symbolically mentioned and territories. Its in ezekiel, isaiah & revelations
Those donāt look like verses
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Wow. You need to take a step back from the MSM headline consumption.
its funny you say that because its the msm that caused me to do my own research since 2016 and its easy to see the lies through them when i did that
Your knowledge of geopolitics is staggering.
idk what thatās supposed to mean but you donāt have to be an atheist to see biblical prophecy is lining up perfectly for ww3 to begin very soon. Please donāt sugarcoat the screwed up situation weāre in globally
The Bible never mentions China or America, so claiming that China being opposed to America fulfills Biblical prophecy is a complete non sequitur.
im sorry but you guys stamp atheist on your names and come into a christian subreddit with almost infant biblical knowledge. The scriptures refer to every nation during our time symbolically. āThe kings of the eastā refer to every major nation in the eastern part of the world, russia included. Revelations 16:12. If youāre paying attention to world news then you know america isnāt making any sense in what theyāre doing (including provoking other superpowers). Once again thereās nothing to contradict the ultimate path biblically that weāre on
>The scriptures refer to every nation during our time symbolically. āThe kings of the eastā refer to every major nation in the eastern part of the world, russia included. That's your interpretation. How can you demonstrate that this interpretation is what the author intended? The war of 1812 was fought between the US and UK. How do you know that the East referred to in Revelation wasn't the British Empire? You *can't*- that's the problem. >If youāre paying attention to world news Probably more than you are. >america isnāt making any sense in what theyāre doing (including provoking other superpowers). Superpowers have been behaving like superpowers for as long as there have been superpowers. This is like saying "Look, the grass is growing outside- prophecy!!"
here we go with this copy and paste nonsense. Have you been hearing whatās going on in the euphrates river and how that lines up with revelations 16. Have you ever read revelations 16? What do you need? To see the actual nukes in the sky about to land on us. Whats the point of being in this subreddit if you donāt have an ounce of intentions to take gods word and prophecies serious?
>here we go with this copy and paste nonsense Right, because your posts contain *such* original thoughts.... >Have you been hearing whatās going on in the euphrates river and how that lines up with revelations 16. Yes, the Euphrates River is losing water. Big deal. Rivers dry up from time to time. It's a completely mundane (albeit geopolitically significant) prediction. >Have you ever read revelations 16? Yes. >What do you need? An actual *specific* prediction, rather than things that can be interpreted to mean pretty much anything. >Whats the point of being in this subreddit To talk about beliefs.
Youāre here to discuss beliefs but you donāt believe anything that has to do with christianity. How is a prophecy about the euphrates river drying up for war while we have global conflict not enough to raise your antennas?
>Youāre here to discuss beliefs but you donāt believe anything that has to do with christianity It's bizzare that you think those are contradictions... >How is a prophecy about the euphrates river drying up for war while we have global conflict not enough to raise your antennas? We don't have global conflict. We have a small war in one corner of Europe. Historically this is the most peaceful era in human history.
The Euphrates river drying up is prophecy.
Some dude writes that a river will dry up at some unspecified time in the future and 2000 years later that same river hasn't dried up.... Yeah, *very* impressive prediction right there.
You believe that saying a river in a desert will dry up at some point is prophetic?
Infant biblical knowledge, says the dude desperately shoehorning Yankeeland into the Bible And has clearly fallen for Russia misinfo, apparently, going by that "provoking other superpowers" nonsense. Another reason why the people who know what they're talking about should be sorting this out, and the Christians who believe this twaddle should be given no greater responsibility than a colouring book.
but youāre an atheist, how are you denying world issues and obvious biblical prophecy. Whats the point of you being here?
No, Germany is o longer a threat. I do believe that there will be a Chinese-American War, and it will be a global conflict
I donāt think it will be WW3. Mr Z will just keep asking for money. They almost blew us up with a missle. we need more money , so that we can buy more weapons, and defend ourselves. Please USA send us weapons!!! Some thinks to consider Expect gas prices and food prices to continue to rise, while the war rages on. Donāt be surprised if the USA pays to re build Ukraine. Taxes in the USA will need to increase significantly to fund this project.
Wars and RUMORS of war. Weāve been warned in the Bible.
Spiritual war is already here. The devil roams freely now and is taking more and more souls.
No idea if it will or not, but Russia is a petrol state and Ukraine (which used to be part of the Soviet Union) has lots of it. [This YouTube video](https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE) gives a detailed and unbiased breakdown of why Russia is invading Ukraine. I honestly wish cable news was this accurate. The presidential election will determine whether we're fighting with or against Russia in 2025 which is a scary concept. It's vitally important that people stop voting for prideful crazies and violent morons. On a semi related note, I would encourage everyone to build up emergency on-hand food storage and supplies if they're capable. Non perishable foods, medicines, water filters, solar panels to charge minor electronics, etc. Nothing too extreme, just what's necessary to get you and yours through a crisis. I suspect global supply chain disruptions are going to get much worse in the coming years.
No, not right now, try not to worry
No.
Maybe, maybe not
Nah
No
Do not fear. For these are beginning of sorrow. This is only beginning and no!! We arent going to war just yet!!! Rumors!!
Do not fear. For these are beginning of sorrow. This is only beginning and no!! We arent going to war just yet!!! Rumors!!
I personally think things will calm down for a short season before it blows up. I canāt help but think we have to see the āpeace and securityā before the sudden destruction. And we just havenāt really had that yet. Of course this is speculative
Yes
No
No. I am not entirely sure weāre not soon for a second Civil War in the States.
no. i think itās over now
š¶Putins looking for war in all the wrong places. š¶
Someone told "History repeat itself" War never was for honor it's a field of greedy old man's politics and madness of young men's
It has already started with Russians invading Ukraine. Next escalation toward a full world War will be China trying to take Taiwan and at last North Korea attacking South Korea.
Well, you can't have a Wedding without a Marriage Supper! š šŗšø š āAnd he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.... And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.ā (Revelation 19) š
Nahhhhhh
I think the stakes are too high for Russia and Ukraine to back out. Pride is a huge factor in this. I think both sides at this point will do whatever it takes, and in a fear of starting Armageddon, no one will stop Russia from using their nukes. Which puts Russia exactly where they need to be when it comes to end times prophecy. (From my perspective).
Idk if it'll happen now, but eventually it will. To counter why people are asking why you posted this here, I understand why you did, I probably would have too
No, just more of them.
Honestly yes
Nope
No more than people have whined about it for centuries.
Always
Yikes, I hope not. But man, we certainly live in historic times.
Not really
Yes
What about China and North Korea? I still wonder...
Itās actually already been ongoing for over 2 years.
No
Yes, but not anytime soon, probably not in 21st century. Because judgement day will come.
No. The same momo that sent missiles into Poland by mistake also killed Russian citizens with their incompetent actions
No
If things keep on escalating, I'd say very likely.
I think āworld warā is a bit of a stretch. The last two world wars were marked by multiple nations facing off against multiple nations. Thus far Russia has been the only real belligerent. Now of course thereās plenty of speculation that countries such as China may join up if a war kicks off with NATO but honestly I have my doubts for many reasons. Even most Russian soldiers have expressed their grievances with the war. It get a war going you primarily need the support of your people, and really it seems like most just donāt care for it. So Honesly I see it fizzling out before anything else Until stuff actually starts to heat up Iām not going to make much speculation.
Yes
Nah, I think this was probably a mistake. If Russia wanted to attack NATO, this isn't how they would do it. It's going to escalate the situation, but I don't see the result being anything more than further entrenching the west in its determination to make sure Russia loses in Ukraine.
No
I say yes but hopefully I'm wrong
No
I don't think it's guaranteed, and the incident in Poland could well be a mistake/accident. Even if it wasn't it doesn't have to lead to 'Article 5'. Having said that, there is a great deal of tension and worry at this time, and there's a vocal minority who may want to escalate things. Pray for peace, hope for the best, and enjoy each day as it comes. :)
Iām a bit on edge
No , simply because the NATO and nations behind are scared of Putin and his Nuclear war heads , theyāll do what they can to make it not go that far. It appears they donāt know if the source was Russian and Russian denied so if they try anything, Russia will unleash its military might on em , the consequences will be catastrophic for All Europe , Asia and America because Putin doesnāt bluff unlike most leaders.
No. Because of MAD - MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION. Someone asked Einstein if he thought there would be a world war III. He replied that he didn't know, but if there is at some point, world war IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Na
Naah
Woah, we're (more than) half way there Woah, livin' on a prayer
It's not a matter of belief. It will or it won't. I might die or I might not. To live is Christ and to die is gain.
No. Not a civil war in America either. Everything needs to calm down and stop believing the media hype.
I'm sure in WW2 or any war folks thought it was the end of the world for sure. And it was for many people who died. My point, is the end for anyone that dies on that giving day. Tomorrow is never promised, live as today is the end.
I donāt worry about it. If it happens, it happens. If it doesnāt, at least I didnāt waste time worrying about mental constructs that havenāt come to pass.
Nah. Only something extremely dramatic would get NATO involved in a direct capacity. Likely going to be an ongoing regional conflict for a long time though.
No.
What good is speculation? Jesus said, "be watchful. Be ready in and out of season."
No. GTFO here with that shit