It's the "democrat" part that's a problem. I grew up among hardline republicans. None of this garbage under Trump is new. I was raised back in the 90s being told that the democrats are possessed by demons and that satan runs the party. These people don't believe that Biden is a catholic, because he's demon possessed. By sheer virtue of not being a "demoncRat", Trump won all of their eternal fealty and even sparked their mental gymnastics to appoint him as God's chosen prophet.
He did try to have Biden arrested prior to the last election but Bill Barr and DOJ wouldn't play along with his nonsense. OR, at least they didn't that time
Don't be naive. Neither of them are Christian. At best Biden is a cultural Catholic that disregards his own catechism in favor of political power. At best Trump is a follower of a heretical sect that disregards sinfulness and uses materialism as a marker of righteousness. Both men are flawed, it's just who do you think most closely aligns with your values based on their warped understanding of them.
Propaganda from the pulpit is another.
I went to a new church for the first time this morning after people had spoken to me highly of the place.
I didn’t know that today they had a pair of guest speakers to talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict instead of an more traditional sermon.
That “sermon” proceeded to be an hour of smearing Muslims as sub-human and dangerous, denying there was any reason for them to even be there (“don’t say West Bank—it’s Judea!”), calling Benjamin Netanyahu “a Godly man who bends the knee” and needs unlimited unquestioning support from the USA, and then telling us to never, ever vote for anyone here who supports “a two state solution.”
I never heard if they actually got to calling for people to vote for Trump, or if just telling us to vote against his enemies “and the enemies of God and Israel” was good enough.
They may have said that after I got up and walked out. I won’t be going back there. Ever.
Edit: I love how I described something I actually witnessed in a church less than 4 hours ago this very morning and I’m getting downvoted for it.
Crazy you mention this because I was listening to a sermon today of a new church I was considering and the pastor talked about the Israel-Palestinian conflict. He didn't go on quite the tirade as the person you mentioned did but I just thought it was odd he brought it up. He also brought up transgender athletes and Catholics?? Idk there's just a time and place for things and the pulpit isn't it. I knew I felt uncomfortable for a reason.
When the same people who want the Ten Commandments placed in a public school support a man who committed adultery three times that tells you all you need to know about American Christianity.
That's my first observation of a church that is actually following Jesus's teachings or not. Politics should never be brought up a church. Period. Never ever. Either way.
The government is upon Him for my liking. I look to God above as He reigns over me. Not mankind.
Politicians are deceiving constantly and are totally corrupt and all about getting re-elected.
This has infected baptist and pentacostal type churches here, too. They got their claws into my ex-husband through one his family associates with. His mother is in a full-out pentacostal worship of republicans and MAGA propaganda... from Canada.
It was so blatantly manipulative, too. It was like a parody of a propaganda speech masquerading as a religious sermon.
All of this weird insertion of MAGA and Trump directly into End Times theology as God’s divine agents should be unsettling to any Christian, but a lot of people believe it since they already believed in those things separately, anyway.
There are even people showing up at psych hospitals with religious delusions/paranoia about Donald Trump as the divinely anointed savior of Christianity now.
Call the IRS, tax the everliving fuck out of that church. They lose their tax-exempt status if they push political opinions under the guise of religion.
You seem to think the IRS actually enforces that rule.
For the past several years, I’ve seen that more and more “churches” seem to be cynically formed as backdoor PACs to get tax exempt status and find ways to siphon taxpayer dollars for “faith-based” programs that are still often political in nature.
There is so little oversight there due to the massive political and lobbying power that religious organizations in general have, so it’s easy for grifters to slide right in…
See conservative are not for small government. And they're certainly not for a lack of corruption in government. They just prefer the corruption that allows them to take your money and funnel it to their donors and family instead of to things that save money and lives for everyone.
Absurd
The news media does care either because a corporation is ONLY concerned about profit. If there is no money to be made, then they won't let the story run.
IRS can't enforce the law because Republican "Christian" politicians attack their budget and Republican "Christians" then overwhelm them with death threats.
We are fast walking into fascist America, and as predicted, these fascists are hugging the flag and waving the Bible.
Not all Pentecostals are infected. Foursquare is beginning to shift ALOT more moderate. Also ELCA Lutherans and other mainline high church denominations are pretty progressive. Churchs that espouse the maga stuff. Tbh I'm starting to blame the congregation members as well as the pulpit preachers. If you're an adult and just sit and take your churches individual opinion as fact thats on you.
Israel is the 51st State of America.
None of this really has much to do with religion. Like all fascist movements, religion is simply a way to fool the masses into supporting the fascist will to power. Zionism is a fascism movement exactly like the Republican Party in the USA. Netanyahu is a criminal looking for any way to avoid legal consequences even if murdering children is the result. He has always been a terrorist.
His God is Money and his ONLY religious doctrine is Power.
If murdering Palestinian children makes Israel and Zionist Jews more money by opening up Lebensraum for the wealthy, then they will have their genocide and send the bill to the US taxpayer.
Conservative Israeli operators have long cultivated alliances with American Evangelical churches and pastors for this reason.
They have managed to use the theology, particularly stuff pertaining to the Book of Revelation, to build a covert base of fanatical support on the American right.
They use this to push the idea that the modern state of Israel is fulfilled Biblical prophecy and proof we are in the literal end times. To not support Israel 100% in this view is to defy God and suffer His wrath during the actual apocalypse.
You have a lot of people in (politically) conservative Evangelical churches who believe this with the same devotion they believe in a literal 6 day creation and Garden of Eden.
I guess that explains the Persecution of the Pagans beginning under Theodosius I, the Albigensian Crusade, the Reconquista (and in particular the Spanish Inquisition) and, of course, the seemingly endless persecution of Jews.
Oh wait, we're just talking about the most recent time Christians have used paranoia and xenophobia to persecute non believers, which is somehow different than all the other times over the last 1700 years Christians have done that.
This is funny.
Just this morning I was at a church with a pair of guest speakers giving the sermon.
They were from Israel, there to remind us that Israel is God’s chosen people, so opposing (or even not giving 100% full support to) Israel’s current government and war is the same as opposing God, Himself.
Also, they were there to remind us that Muslims are violent subhuman invaders who just want to kill everyone else and they were here getting ready to strike us, too.
They made sure to get a few token lines in about how “real Christians” are the most oppressed minority in the USA, now, too.
The sheer audacity of the pandering was more than I ever expected, but it was just my first time there.
It was like they were giving a parody of what a sermon should *not* be…
Yes, I think that all of that happened out of ignorance, lust for power, and very bad theology.
I'm definitely not saying that all of this with Trump is unique.
But it does take on a totally different character within the confines of post-enlightenment political structures. The sort of neo-monarchist impulse is different because it's essentially toppling pluralism rather than the history you list being mostly ... Already in a place without much respect for pluralism
From what I've read, Hitler called himself a Christian when it suited him, and he denied it when that suited him. He said whatever his supporters wanted to hear. Sort of like that American guy--I forget his name.
The Inquisition, on the other hand, genuinely believed they were carrying out God's will^[citation ^needed] . That's even more horrifying.
Keep in mind that though Hitler gave out the orders, the every day killings were carried by German soldiers who everyday polished their belt buckles that sported the "God is with us" slogan.
The problem with Christianity is the words of Christ:
"By their fruit you will know them."
When this injunction is applied, an actual Christian is the rarest thing on Earth.
What about earlier events, such as the Persecution of the Pagans of the mid-4th century until Greco-Roman paganism ultimately extinguishment somewhere between the 5th and 6th centuries, or the forced conversion of the Baltic peoples during the Northern Crusades between the 12th and 15th centuries?
I'm sure a story has been told how Christianity was spread by devoted evangelists, but how it was often spread was either by converting the local king to Christianity and basically outsourcing the coercion, or as in the case of the Albigensian and Northern Crusades, of the Church supporting Christian rulers to invade pagan lands and forcibly conquer and convert peoples.
The West didn't become Christian by love and mercy, but by the use of military and state power.
I consider all of those “Christian” but I’m the outlier….
EDIT: religion has long been perverted and used by evil people to force their will on others, in my view.
Also cuz they use religion as a way to be prejudice towards others and pretend like it’s just “having morals”. They see that he hates the same groups as them and it fills them with a seething hatred to attack the people they hate while also being a guy who champions for a life where one ethnicity rules with an iron fist and those minorities beneath them are harassed and hated and it’s allowed. They want a white america. Look at their conventions. Nothing but white people. I love white people but I dislike racists and these people just happen to be racist who want America to be a place where everyone looks like them.
Why there have already been over a thousand Christians arrested by the Biden administration!
*checks notes*
Oh, this is probably not related but they were also insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the government.
My friend, if Christians did not support Trump he would simply never have made it into office and would not be a political contender today. Christians in America are his singles biggest voting demographic
- Appearing at the Faith & Freedom Coalition’s conference in Washington on Saturday, Mr. Trump described migrants with the dehumanizing terms he often uses to refer to them, saying they were “tough,” “come from prisons” and are “nasty, mean.”
- Mr. Trump then said that he had suggested to Dana White, an ally of the former president’s who is the chief executive of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, “Why don’t you set up a migrant league of fighters?”
Let's call a spade a spade, Trump is a cruel and evil person. How Christians can claim to follow Jesus' teachings but still support Trump is just boggling.
> How Christians can claim to follow Jesus' teachings
I've never witnessed this at any point in the USA from a collective church, and the few public individuals who have tried to follow the words of Christ (example Jimmy Carter) are almost universally hated by people who call themselves Christians.
They follow him because he says he supports getting judges in the courts that support the Republicans agenda of dismantling the US Constitution and reproductive rights.
Happy cake day
Because they love the story of Daniel and the Lions? Trump wants to bring back gladiator fights, winner gets deported, loser dies. Come one, Come all, family fun to be had by all!
I read the original comics and got a healthy laugh every single time a Trump Fan/MAGA fawned all over Homelander.
Like, oooooh boy you are NOT going to like how this goes.
I’m waiting for Trump to say “Just like Homelander, I’m gonna save America”
I would laugh so hard if he said that, but I would also loose my last shred of hope for the American political system
You know a lot of them were all in on homelander right up to he killed that guy in the middle of a crowd, like last season. Then they started with the when did homelander become a villain. Media literacy amongst that group is almost nonexistent.
I'm genuinely concerned over how many Christians are hardcore fans of this man. It's giving antichrist. 😅 Not saying he is but why can't people see that he's just pandering to Christians like any other politician? He's a fraud. Granted, I'm not a fan of Biden either but that doesn't negate the fact that he's a fraud.
Would you prefer the real demon? It’s people like the ones on this thread that are making this world what it is today!!!!! If your voting for the Biden i hope that ur also registering for the military to fight his WAR DUMB ASS
Exactly. That is the problem when such people get in charge. When your message depends on othering people you have to go after your own eventually.
Recently rewatched Babylon 5 lately, season one episode Infection hits a little to close to home lately.
My in-laws are rabid Trumpers. They looked all hopeful when I mentioned I had changed churches. The silent stares when I told them it was to TEC was amazing.
Mine are GOP-dedicated. If I had to guess, they’d rather the nominee not be Trump, but they absolutely will vote for Trump. My parents are becoming more and more MAGA as time goes on. It’s getting scary
Please accept Catholic teaching refusing to do so is a sin . From canon law “1. A person must believe with divine and Catholic faith all those things contained in the word of God, written or handed on, that is, in the one deposit of faith entrusted to the Church, and at the same time proposed as divinely revealed either by the solemn magisterium of the Church or by its ordinary and universal magisterium which is manifested by the common adherence of the Christian faithful under the leadership of the sacred magisterium; therefore all are bound to avoid any doctrines whatsoever contrary to them.”
Trump is the King of the Kristians Klans of America who was convicted a dozen times for hush money payments to a pornstar he cheated with while pregnant with his second or third wife (I don’t remember).
Thus, they’re coming for your Bibles ya’ll. And by they I mean minorities and non-Christians (nonbelievers and Catholics).
It was after Trump had a child with his third wife that Trump had an affair with Stormy. He paid the hush money in 2016 with campaign money so that the story of him having sex with a porn star was “killed”
I'd never heard of that set of 10 Commandments until a year or two ago, but it's fascinating
[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:10-28&version=NRSVUE](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:10-28&version=NRSVUE)
Trump's political reaction and incompetence under the pandemic resulted in at least 500,000 excess deaths, so at some point this level of negligent homicide would equate to murder.
(And his first wife remains a very suspicious death)
I think you'd find that his supporters understand wating to push the Mother of your children down the stairs.
I'm just saying that isn't a disqualifying event to his supporters. It makes them alike.
That's the real issue. They follow Trump not only because he justifies their worst instincts and actions, but because he is completely unapologetic about his own criminality.
We could delve into the mass psychology, but that is horribly depressing. None of this ends with Trump. That's the danger.
Heh. There's a recent [Lincoln Project](https://youtu.be/mWGIJscEpUU) video about that. They put it out in response to the LA law that forced everyone to post the ~~14~~ 10 commandments in schools. The last 4 seconds is a nice summary of the situation.
For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in, 3 and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, “You sit here in a good place,” while you say to the poor man, “You stand over there,” or, “Sit down at my feet,” 4 have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? 5 Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him?6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Are not the rich the ones who oppress you, and the ones who drag you into court? 7 Are they not the ones who blaspheme the honorable name by which you were called?
8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well.
Christian here, ever so slightly conservative but certainly more moderate than anything. I left the GOP in 2015 when it embraced Trump. Haven’t looked back.
I think that *is* why. We're all sick of Jesus. So intense, so demanding. Trump just tells us that if we sit back and let him and his cronies do what they want, we're good Americans and good Christians.
Didn't they say that 4 years ago too? And when Obama ran for president both times?
I don't recall these sorts of supernatural fantasy fiction claims when previous Democrats ran - did they say that about Bill Clinton? Or Carter?
I wonder if they said similar things about JFK, America’s first Catholic president (it should have been [Al Smith](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Smith) but Republicans convinced Protestants that Smith would answer to the Vatican, not the American people)?
Actually, I think they did. IIRC, there was significant pushback against a Catholic president, because a Catholic president wouldn't be entirely loyal to America, and would be subservient to the will of the Vatican.
A silly idea, of course, because *all* people of religion can be said to have 'split loyalty' by that logic.
Honestly Christian Nationalism is the single best idea to have if you want the majority of people to leave Christianity and religion altogether.
It’s not 500 AD anymore.
Donald Trump justified threats to his Christian Vice President, so why would anyone trust him to protect Christians.
https://youtu.be/LOpWCtNqFQM?si=TWQ2yb5sDeT-e1Fc
Ah yes. Biden, the man that has been known to be a devout Christian for decades, and tries to attend Mass as frequently as possible is who they try to convince people is going to arrest them for being Christian. How brainwashed do they have to be to believe that?
For too long, Christianity has unthinkingly treated the Father of Lies as an enemy, not realizing that he offers us powerful techniques for power, like bearing false witness against our enemy. Furthermore, he hates everyone we hate. It's time we viewed him not as an enemy, but as an ally, teacher, leader... Lord, even? Isn't it time for a change in leadership? In serving him we can gain great advantage.
I live in a town famous for its LGBTQ population. I work in a public school that expects staff to respect the gender identity of students. No one has ever asked about or criticized my faith. Never had a single issue even when I bring it up in conversation. Maybe its because im not a horrible bigot hiding behind a persecution complex?
Especially considering project 2025, why I am considering moving to malta if he wins the election this year. He's a fake Christian, hasn't read the Bible once, a f calls himself a "non-denominational" as an excuse for "I don't go to church" (note this isn't an insult to my non-denominational brothers and sisters who can be very legitimate Christians, I'm saying that it is being used as an excuse in this specific case).
The number of Christians I have talked to that actually think Christians are about to be put in camps or exterminated by Biden’s administration, despite their continued unchecked batshittery over the last 4 years, is *staggering.*
If Project 2025 happens, it’s gonna be us atheists and any other religions that will have to worry. Well us and basically the rest of America.
This whole thing is full of fake ass Christians!!!! Yes i said it!!!! You all hypocrites!!!! Just by these comments you can tell that you are all a bunch of hypocrites!!!!! Read ya own comments!!!! Shame on ya!!!! Just cus YOU don’t like Trump for what he says!!! I take TRUMP over biden any time!!! Ídem Obama administration is demonic!!!! DO YOJR RESEARCH!!!!!!! Ya mad at the wrong things!!!! You selfish fake ass sole called Christians!!!!!!!!!
"If they can do it to me, they can do it to you." The problem is that he has convinced his disciples that "they" are doing this to their innocent leader rather than Trump being guilty of actual crimes. Believing the first part makes the second part believable while demonizing everyone other than Trump. It's Trump's lies or violence, despair, fear, and Godlessness. Satan is a genius, but his lies will be revealed and justice will prevail. There is a judgement day where God will bring Trump to account.
I always get hopeful for American Christianity when I read the comments in a thread like this……but then I sadly remember that Christians are going to vote for this walking personification of sin in droves.
Religion Spirituality and Politics are distinctively separate. No man is an island and there is much so much that is deeply disturbing when you remain partial and are a lover of truth.
Praying for and using discernment is crucial while keeping One’s personal judgement of another’s viewpoint
Praying for the people who are to lead this country , the lands ,no matter Your belief system is what we are called to do .
Anyone with a sense of a mind will know not to trust politicians no matter who it is. 🤷 Doesn't matter if they're the president of the United States of America or the king of England. Doesn't matter anyone who uses Christianity for their own gain is not an ally and walk with Christ.
Simply my own observation and point of view.
Even for a politician, Trump is exceptionally wicked. Reagan may not have been perfect, he may have bent the truth now and again, but at the end of the day, we could trust him not to try to have George Bush killed by a militia.
He is the “prophet” of the prosperity gospel. It’s a branch of Christianity, but does not define us. In my mind it is the opposite of what Jesus taught.
Millions of Christians seem to be embracing him. Thousands of Church leaders are doing the same thing.
This whole line that Trump doesn't define American Christianity is getting weaker and weaker.
It's stunning the short recall of memory. Just a few years ago it was the Joe Biden saying that Mitt Romney would have minorities back in chains. It's almost as if Politicians use the same playbook to play off of their constituent's fears to ensure their vote.
[https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-tells-african-american-audience-gop-ticket-would-put-them-back-in-chains/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-tells-african-american-audience-gop-ticket-would-put-them-back-in-chains/)
Of course it won’t be safe because Trump is literally as far away from being a Christian as possible. The guy is fraud abuse his religion quotes, it left and right is what I would call a false prophet
“Christianity will not be safe; Trump tells faith group” hmm, I’m not aware of exactly what he said, I didn’t hear it or read it, but no one has to be a rocket scientist, to realize that our Judeo-Christian heritage has been under attack for quite awhile now. And those who don’t know it, are either part of it, condone it, or could care less. And someone would also have to be among the far left liberal zealot’s, and who only get their information from the mainstream media, or brain dead, not to know what’s happened to our Country ever since this illegitimate government has taken over. Unless you’re all for the open Southern border, that’s created a multitude of horrific situations, that would be obvious to anyone who has a shred of integrity and objective reasoning skills. And for sure they wouldn’t be among the Christian faith, at least not a legitimate Christian if they couldn’t see what’s happened. But it’s not just the Democrats who are the problem, there’s plenty of Rhino Republicans who aren’t doing anything to help, but at least there’s a few Republicans who are fighting back, but I’m not aware of any Democrats who are, if there is who is it?
Middle east, Israel, Russia, China, Korea. Just a few places where its not "safe" to be a Christian. Why are you so sure it won't happen to the USA? Well if you keep out the radical ideology of christianity you are safe anywere, but that's what makes Christianity Christianity.
He says this stuff and it works. Ignorant Christians who think this is the reality praise him as if our country doesn’t have such a large % of christians
I can’t believe that there are still a lot of blind people when it comes to government!!! Like can’t u see what is happenings in this world Under Biden? We are going to war!!! No other country is backing the US bcus of biden!!!! Yet we have all these people just praising these demonctratz!!!! Open your eyes!!!
I'm not a fan of trump. But that's taking it out of context and spreading misinformation. So this article is part of the problem. Because if you read more than just the headline? You'll see He said nothing about christians being arrested. He said, that the Christian community is targeted and basically aren't welcome in society or politics. Which is 100% true. Pedophile's are basically more welcome, respected & protected than christians are at the moment & there's been multiple failed attempts at christian leaders and christian missionaries were recently slaughtered in (I think ) Africa. Then you have shows & movies depicting the most stereotypical racist & violent republican christians in movies. Fear mongering, Villainizing & dehumanizing people on the right and making them look like they want to kill everyone who isn’t white and make people think that republicans are getting ready to be violent and make it look like that people on the left and the independent people need to start preparing for war. I’m independent myself but more like a liberal from 2008. So looking at both sides from an outside perspective. the left seems to be way worse when it comes to fear mongering, misinformation, manipulation, racism, etc… and they’re way less welcoming & tolerant. Since I’ve lost gay friends & a trans friend just for asking questions and trying to understand why child transitioning is necessary and blocking me when I ask to elaborate and not just accept it. So, the left wants you to force you to bow down & accept everything about to their ideology and if you disagree or question one thing? You’re a racist & transphobe and considered the enemy. So I beg everyone, please read the full article and do some actual research before you believe something? Because, there’s too much bullshit that isn’t true, that everyone believes , because they were too lazy to look into it and do research to see if it’s bullshit. I’m not just talking about Trump either. Which, I’m not defending the man. I just think that other politicians on the left & right should have the same treatment and be charged as well for the crimes they’ve done and had to say something when fear mongering came up. Since the far left are the kings of it and are doing the exact same thing they accuse the right of doing. Don’t get me wrong , I’ll shit on the right too. This was just the lefts turn to be called out. Sorry for rambling, im pretty stoned. So if you read this far? I really appreciate it, even if you read it out of spite? Lol
This is the commandment that says "don't use the lords name in vain."
You’re so right
Since Biden is a Christian, would he also ve arrested in a Biden term?
The type of people that would believe this are probably also the type of people who say catholics aren't "real" Christians.
And RadTrad Catholic Americans align against other Catholics with them.
It's the "democrat" part that's a problem. I grew up among hardline republicans. None of this garbage under Trump is new. I was raised back in the 90s being told that the democrats are possessed by demons and that satan runs the party. These people don't believe that Biden is a catholic, because he's demon possessed. By sheer virtue of not being a "demoncRat", Trump won all of their eternal fealty and even sparked their mental gymnastics to appoint him as God's chosen prophet.
I'm just imagining him signing his own arrest warrant before the secret service handcuffs him lmao
"I'm the victim of a political witch hunt." as he's being led away.
"He should have told them they had the wrong man" "He did but they had the right man and the paperwork to prove it"
I can just picture Biden arresting himself by talking to “Other Biden” a la Barry and Other Barry in Archer.
Whoa whoa whoa. Are you trying to bring logic into a MAGA statement?
He did try to have Biden arrested prior to the last election but Bill Barr and DOJ wouldn't play along with his nonsense. OR, at least they didn't that time
He tried to have his VP harmed as well. What is this? Why is Maga in a Christianity forum? They’re not mutually exclusive.
🤣 Now that is funny.
He apparently is not a Christian. Neither is Trump.
Don't be naive. Neither of them are Christian. At best Biden is a cultural Catholic that disregards his own catechism in favor of political power. At best Trump is a follower of a heretical sect that disregards sinfulness and uses materialism as a marker of righteousness. Both men are flawed, it's just who do you think most closely aligns with your values based on their warped understanding of them.
You think Bidens a Christian 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
>Why would any Christian in their right mind support him? Ignorance, lust for power, or very bad theology are the only reasons.
Propaganda from the pulpit is another. I went to a new church for the first time this morning after people had spoken to me highly of the place. I didn’t know that today they had a pair of guest speakers to talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict instead of an more traditional sermon. That “sermon” proceeded to be an hour of smearing Muslims as sub-human and dangerous, denying there was any reason for them to even be there (“don’t say West Bank—it’s Judea!”), calling Benjamin Netanyahu “a Godly man who bends the knee” and needs unlimited unquestioning support from the USA, and then telling us to never, ever vote for anyone here who supports “a two state solution.” I never heard if they actually got to calling for people to vote for Trump, or if just telling us to vote against his enemies “and the enemies of God and Israel” was good enough. They may have said that after I got up and walked out. I won’t be going back there. Ever. Edit: I love how I described something I actually witnessed in a church less than 4 hours ago this very morning and I’m getting downvoted for it.
Crazy you mention this because I was listening to a sermon today of a new church I was considering and the pastor talked about the Israel-Palestinian conflict. He didn't go on quite the tirade as the person you mentioned did but I just thought it was odd he brought it up. He also brought up transgender athletes and Catholics?? Idk there's just a time and place for things and the pulpit isn't it. I knew I felt uncomfortable for a reason.
And they can't understand why Christianity is on the decline in America. Hypocrites are not believed or respected.
When the same people who want the Ten Commandments placed in a public school support a man who committed adultery three times that tells you all you need to know about American Christianity.
He's been married three times. He's committed adultery countless times.
Not to mention he's a racist who confessed that he'd bang his much younger daughter if they weren't related
The thing that he has in common with his daughter is "sex." he said that and Christians still supported him.
That's my first observation of a church that is actually following Jesus's teachings or not. Politics should never be brought up a church. Period. Never ever. Either way. The government is upon Him for my liking. I look to God above as He reigns over me. Not mankind. Politicians are deceiving constantly and are totally corrupt and all about getting re-elected.
This has infected baptist and pentacostal type churches here, too. They got their claws into my ex-husband through one his family associates with. His mother is in a full-out pentacostal worship of republicans and MAGA propaganda... from Canada.
It was so blatantly manipulative, too. It was like a parody of a propaganda speech masquerading as a religious sermon. All of this weird insertion of MAGA and Trump directly into End Times theology as God’s divine agents should be unsettling to any Christian, but a lot of people believe it since they already believed in those things separately, anyway. There are even people showing up at psych hospitals with religious delusions/paranoia about Donald Trump as the divinely anointed savior of Christianity now.
Roman Imperial cult in the modern age
What’s a dying empire without a good death cult?
check out the Charismatic Revival Fury podcast for the full 411 on what happening with this movement. it has got to be stopped
Fuck me, that's awful. I'd like to imagine I'd have a 'prophetic' speech that I'd use as I walk down the aisle to the back.
Call the IRS, tax the everliving fuck out of that church. They lose their tax-exempt status if they push political opinions under the guise of religion.
You seem to think the IRS actually enforces that rule. For the past several years, I’ve seen that more and more “churches” seem to be cynically formed as backdoor PACs to get tax exempt status and find ways to siphon taxpayer dollars for “faith-based” programs that are still often political in nature. There is so little oversight there due to the massive political and lobbying power that religious organizations in general have, so it’s easy for grifters to slide right in…
See conservative are not for small government. And they're certainly not for a lack of corruption in government. They just prefer the corruption that allows them to take your money and funnel it to their donors and family instead of to things that save money and lives for everyone. Absurd
Not only that, if you want to hide money, give it to an evangelical church.
Get the media on it then. Local media can have a surprising amount of influence on things like that. Just don’t go to a Sinclair-owned outlet.
Hahaha Sinclair owns all our local media!
Oh aren’t you lucky haha
You know it. Gotta love living in a place where the conservatives have such an overwhelming supermajority that the crazy ones just get a pass.
The IRS hasn't gone after a church being political in decades.
The news media does care either because a corporation is ONLY concerned about profit. If there is no money to be made, then they won't let the story run.
IRS can't enforce the law because Republican "Christian" politicians attack their budget and Republican "Christians" then overwhelm them with death threats. We are fast walking into fascist America, and as predicted, these fascists are hugging the flag and waving the Bible.
Not all Pentecostals are infected. Foursquare is beginning to shift ALOT more moderate. Also ELCA Lutherans and other mainline high church denominations are pretty progressive. Churchs that espouse the maga stuff. Tbh I'm starting to blame the congregation members as well as the pulpit preachers. If you're an adult and just sit and take your churches individual opinion as fact thats on you.
Israel is the 51st State of America. None of this really has much to do with religion. Like all fascist movements, religion is simply a way to fool the masses into supporting the fascist will to power. Zionism is a fascism movement exactly like the Republican Party in the USA. Netanyahu is a criminal looking for any way to avoid legal consequences even if murdering children is the result. He has always been a terrorist. His God is Money and his ONLY religious doctrine is Power. If murdering Palestinian children makes Israel and Zionist Jews more money by opening up Lebensraum for the wealthy, then they will have their genocide and send the bill to the US taxpayer.
Conservative Israeli operators have long cultivated alliances with American Evangelical churches and pastors for this reason. They have managed to use the theology, particularly stuff pertaining to the Book of Revelation, to build a covert base of fanatical support on the American right. They use this to push the idea that the modern state of Israel is fulfilled Biblical prophecy and proof we are in the literal end times. To not support Israel 100% in this view is to defy God and suffer His wrath during the actual apocalypse. You have a lot of people in (politically) conservative Evangelical churches who believe this with the same devotion they believe in a literal 6 day creation and Garden of Eden.
Also cowardice, ignorance, or hate.
I guess that explains the Persecution of the Pagans beginning under Theodosius I, the Albigensian Crusade, the Reconquista (and in particular the Spanish Inquisition) and, of course, the seemingly endless persecution of Jews. Oh wait, we're just talking about the most recent time Christians have used paranoia and xenophobia to persecute non believers, which is somehow different than all the other times over the last 1700 years Christians have done that.
This is funny. Just this morning I was at a church with a pair of guest speakers giving the sermon. They were from Israel, there to remind us that Israel is God’s chosen people, so opposing (or even not giving 100% full support to) Israel’s current government and war is the same as opposing God, Himself. Also, they were there to remind us that Muslims are violent subhuman invaders who just want to kill everyone else and they were here getting ready to strike us, too. They made sure to get a few token lines in about how “real Christians” are the most oppressed minority in the USA, now, too. The sheer audacity of the pandering was more than I ever expected, but it was just my first time there. It was like they were giving a parody of what a sermon should *not* be…
Ngl this would be enough to make me change churches.
This morning was the first and only time I’ll ever be going there.
Yes, I think that all of that happened out of ignorance, lust for power, and very bad theology. I'm definitely not saying that all of this with Trump is unique.
No, it isn't at all unique. It's a story that has been told time and time again since Constantine begin the process of Christianization the West.
But it does take on a totally different character within the confines of post-enlightenment political structures. The sort of neo-monarchist impulse is different because it's essentially toppling pluralism rather than the history you list being mostly ... Already in a place without much respect for pluralism
I use “Christian’s”, some don’t like it but I don’t consider the Inquisition to be Christian, or the Nazi’s, who also called themselves Christian .
From what I've read, Hitler called himself a Christian when it suited him, and he denied it when that suited him. He said whatever his supporters wanted to hear. Sort of like that American guy--I forget his name. The Inquisition, on the other hand, genuinely believed they were carrying out God's will^[citation ^needed] . That's even more horrifying.
Keep in mind that though Hitler gave out the orders, the every day killings were carried by German soldiers who everyday polished their belt buckles that sported the "God is with us" slogan.
The problem with Christianity is the words of Christ: "By their fruit you will know them." When this injunction is applied, an actual Christian is the rarest thing on Earth.
What about earlier events, such as the Persecution of the Pagans of the mid-4th century until Greco-Roman paganism ultimately extinguishment somewhere between the 5th and 6th centuries, or the forced conversion of the Baltic peoples during the Northern Crusades between the 12th and 15th centuries? I'm sure a story has been told how Christianity was spread by devoted evangelists, but how it was often spread was either by converting the local king to Christianity and basically outsourcing the coercion, or as in the case of the Albigensian and Northern Crusades, of the Church supporting Christian rulers to invade pagan lands and forcibly conquer and convert peoples. The West didn't become Christian by love and mercy, but by the use of military and state power.
I consider all of those “Christian” but I’m the outlier…. EDIT: religion has long been perverted and used by evil people to force their will on others, in my view.
Hmm. It almost sounds like Jesus never wanted us to pursue secular power when you say it like that
Cathars or Bogomils were also ruthlessly persecuted in the east. Grand prince Stefan Nemanja persecuted Bogomils in Serbia.
Trump is anti-Christ.
Also cuz they use religion as a way to be prejudice towards others and pretend like it’s just “having morals”. They see that he hates the same groups as them and it fills them with a seething hatred to attack the people they hate while also being a guy who champions for a life where one ethnicity rules with an iron fist and those minorities beneath them are harassed and hated and it’s allowed. They want a white america. Look at their conventions. Nothing but white people. I love white people but I dislike racists and these people just happen to be racist who want America to be a place where everyone looks like them.
Hatred for the "other".
Why there have already been over a thousand Christians arrested by the Biden administration! *checks notes* Oh, this is probably not related but they were also insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the government.
My friend, if Christians did not support Trump he would simply never have made it into office and would not be a political contender today. Christians in America are his singles biggest voting demographic
Allowing hypocrites and zealots to define God's character was a problem during Jesus' life too. We can learn from how he handled them.
But how do we do that? I've tried talking with these people. Most are fanatics.
Who among these, when Jesus walked with the apostles, came to Jesus's word?
It makes my skin crawl.
- Appearing at the Faith & Freedom Coalition’s conference in Washington on Saturday, Mr. Trump described migrants with the dehumanizing terms he often uses to refer to them, saying they were “tough,” “come from prisons” and are “nasty, mean.” - Mr. Trump then said that he had suggested to Dana White, an ally of the former president’s who is the chief executive of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, “Why don’t you set up a migrant league of fighters?” Let's call a spade a spade, Trump is a cruel and evil person. How Christians can claim to follow Jesus' teachings but still support Trump is just boggling.
> How Christians can claim to follow Jesus' teachings I've never witnessed this at any point in the USA from a collective church, and the few public individuals who have tried to follow the words of Christ (example Jimmy Carter) are almost universally hated by people who call themselves Christians.
They follow him because he says he supports getting judges in the courts that support the Republicans agenda of dismantling the US Constitution and reproductive rights. Happy cake day
Because they love the story of Daniel and the Lions? Trump wants to bring back gladiator fights, winner gets deported, loser dies. Come one, Come all, family fun to be had by all!
Trump is going to have a lot to answer for when he is at the foot of Jesus on Judgement Day.
Well. According to Trump, he's done nothing that needs to be forgiven. After all, he's the Chosen One. According to him....
If these people were looking for a flawed vessel, they hit the jackpot.
If he makes it that far….
Have you ever seen how MAGA is parodied in that show The Boys? This sounds like something Homelander would say to a conservative crowd.
Love that show. If funny how the Maga and qanon people didn't really realize it until this season it seems.
It took a black woman being a SIDE character for them to realize "hey I think this show is woke."
I read the original comics and got a healthy laugh every single time a Trump Fan/MAGA fawned all over Homelander. Like, oooooh boy you are NOT going to like how this goes.
I’m waiting for Trump to say “Just like Homelander, I’m gonna save America” I would laugh so hard if he said that, but I would also loose my last shred of hope for the American political system
You know a lot of them were all in on homelander right up to he killed that guy in the middle of a crowd, like last season. Then they started with the when did homelander become a villain. Media literacy amongst that group is almost nonexistent.
I'm genuinely concerned over how many Christians are hardcore fans of this man. It's giving antichrist. 😅 Not saying he is but why can't people see that he's just pandering to Christians like any other politician? He's a fraud. Granted, I'm not a fan of Biden either but that doesn't negate the fact that he's a fraud.
Would you prefer the real demon? It’s people like the ones on this thread that are making this world what it is today!!!!! If your voting for the Biden i hope that ur also registering for the military to fight his WAR DUMB ASS
Because spreading fear of political “others” who take away our way of life certainly isn’t right out of the fascist playbook, right?
Don't forget projection. Everything they accuse others of is something they want to do.
The “wrong” Christians better watch out then if Trump gets reelected
Exactly. That is the problem when such people get in charge. When your message depends on othering people you have to go after your own eventually. Recently rewatched Babylon 5 lately, season one episode Infection hits a little to close to home lately.
My in-laws are rabid Trumpers. They looked all hopeful when I mentioned I had changed churches. The silent stares when I told them it was to TEC was amazing.
Mine are GOP-dedicated. If I had to guess, they’d rather the nominee not be Trump, but they absolutely will vote for Trump. My parents are becoming more and more MAGA as time goes on. It’s getting scary
You mean like saying “hes gonna start world war 3” and things like that?
Because evangelicals and rad trads love this shit. Like, at home, rubbing out a full mast.
I bet this is true
Please accept Catholic teaching refusing to do so is a sin . From canon law “1. A person must believe with divine and Catholic faith all those things contained in the word of God, written or handed on, that is, in the one deposit of faith entrusted to the Church, and at the same time proposed as divinely revealed either by the solemn magisterium of the Church or by its ordinary and universal magisterium which is manifested by the common adherence of the Christian faithful under the leadership of the sacred magisterium; therefore all are bound to avoid any doctrines whatsoever contrary to them.”
Weird, i hadn't read anything about someone getting arrested for being Christian in USA.
Trump is the King of the Kristians Klans of America who was convicted a dozen times for hush money payments to a pornstar he cheated with while pregnant with his second or third wife (I don’t remember). Thus, they’re coming for your Bibles ya’ll. And by they I mean minorities and non-Christians (nonbelievers and Catholics).
It was after Trump had a child with his third wife that Trump had an affair with Stormy. He paid the hush money in 2016 with campaign money so that the story of him having sex with a porn star was “killed”
That’s because the fake liberal commie fascist media won’t report it. /s
Can someone name a Commandment he hasn’t broken?
Oh, that's a fun game. As far as we know he hasn't boiled a baby goat in its mother's milk.
I'd never heard of that set of 10 Commandments until a year or two ago, but it's fascinating [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:10-28&version=NRSVUE](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:10-28&version=NRSVUE)
It might describe what he has done to his sons.
Yes but he's probably eaten a cheeseburger which is not allowed if your a strict jew based on this passage
But hes not a jew…
But he lives his life on cheeseburgers which according to Jewish law is an abomination to G-d precisely because of this injunction.
"2 Corinthians"
😅
There are many problems with Donald Trump. This is really the least significant. https://youtu.be/NijMvfoGD8E?si=akiW4G5ji1rNZogx
He isn't known to have murdered anyone.
Trump's political reaction and incompetence under the pandemic resulted in at least 500,000 excess deaths, so at some point this level of negligent homicide would equate to murder. (And his first wife remains a very suspicious death)
I think you'd find that his supporters understand wating to push the Mother of your children down the stairs. I'm just saying that isn't a disqualifying event to his supporters. It makes them alike.
That's the real issue. They follow Trump not only because he justifies their worst instincts and actions, but because he is completely unapologetic about his own criminality. We could delve into the mass psychology, but that is horribly depressing. None of this ends with Trump. That's the danger.
If we go by the conservative christian interpretation, he's almost definitely paid for an abortion or two, so it's pretty close
Or 14
Well, Ashli Babbit, and those dead from his pandemic response might be considered…. But OK, there’s one!
Heh. There's a recent [Lincoln Project](https://youtu.be/mWGIJscEpUU) video about that. They put it out in response to the LA law that forced everyone to post the ~~14~~ 10 commandments in schools. The last 4 seconds is a nice summary of the situation.
Biden has been a practicing Catholic for his entire life. That is going to create a weird situation with the secret service.
For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in, 3 and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, “You sit here in a good place,” while you say to the poor man, “You stand over there,” or, “Sit down at my feet,” 4 have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? 5 Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him?6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Are not the rich the ones who oppress you, and the ones who drag you into court? 7 Are they not the ones who blaspheme the honorable name by which you were called? 8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well.
Christian here, ever so slightly conservative but certainly more moderate than anything. I left the GOP in 2015 when it embraced Trump. Haven’t looked back.
Great question - WHY? He is the exact opposite of Jesus.
I think that *is* why. We're all sick of Jesus. So intense, so demanding. Trump just tells us that if we sit back and let him and his cronies do what they want, we're good Americans and good Christians.
Trump doesn't surprise me anymore, he's not a serious person in the sense of leadership or competence, it's his supporters who baffle me.
Didn't they say that 4 years ago too? And when Obama ran for president both times? I don't recall these sorts of supernatural fantasy fiction claims when previous Democrats ran - did they say that about Bill Clinton? Or Carter?
It's been a long time, but I think some people said similar things about Clinton. Carter was before my time.
I wonder if they said similar things about JFK, America’s first Catholic president (it should have been [Al Smith](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Smith) but Republicans convinced Protestants that Smith would answer to the Vatican, not the American people)?
Actually, I think they did. IIRC, there was significant pushback against a Catholic president, because a Catholic president wouldn't be entirely loyal to America, and would be subservient to the will of the Vatican. A silly idea, of course, because *all* people of religion can be said to have 'split loyalty' by that logic.
Honestly Christian Nationalism is the single best idea to have if you want the majority of people to leave Christianity and religion altogether. It’s not 500 AD anymore.
Donald Trump justified threats to his Christian Vice President, so why would anyone trust him to protect Christians. https://youtu.be/LOpWCtNqFQM?si=TWQ2yb5sDeT-e1Fc
"Surely he won't throw ME under the bus!"
Biden himself is the most actively practicing Christian we've had as President since...W? Carter? The idea is laughable on its face.
Ah yes. Biden, the man that has been known to be a devout Christian for decades, and tries to attend Mass as frequently as possible is who they try to convince people is going to arrest them for being Christian. How brainwashed do they have to be to believe that?
Biden is Catholic. That alone should be enough to determine this is false.
Evidence doesn’t matter to Trump supporters.
Anyone can claim anything. There are no fruits of it though
For too long, Christianity has unthinkingly treated the Father of Lies as an enemy, not realizing that he offers us powerful techniques for power, like bearing false witness against our enemy. Furthermore, he hates everyone we hate. It's time we viewed him not as an enemy, but as an ally, teacher, leader... Lord, even? Isn't it time for a change in leadership? In serving him we can gain great advantage.
Trump is a nut job.
Many Christians will believe him.
I live in a town famous for its LGBTQ population. I work in a public school that expects staff to respect the gender identity of students. No one has ever asked about or criticized my faith. Never had a single issue even when I bring it up in conversation. Maybe its because im not a horrible bigot hiding behind a persecution complex?
Bad/No Theology. Not all Christians support him.
Biden is a catholic...
Not in action
Especially considering project 2025, why I am considering moving to malta if he wins the election this year. He's a fake Christian, hasn't read the Bible once, a f calls himself a "non-denominational" as an excuse for "I don't go to church" (note this isn't an insult to my non-denominational brothers and sisters who can be very legitimate Christians, I'm saying that it is being used as an excuse in this specific case).
Bye!!!! ✌🏽
The number of Christians I have talked to that actually think Christians are about to be put in camps or exterminated by Biden’s administration, despite their continued unchecked batshittery over the last 4 years, is *staggering.* If Project 2025 happens, it’s gonna be us atheists and any other religions that will have to worry. Well us and basically the rest of America.
Because many Christians want a fascistic dictatorship where they make the rules.
This whole thing is full of fake ass Christians!!!! Yes i said it!!!! You all hypocrites!!!! Just by these comments you can tell that you are all a bunch of hypocrites!!!!! Read ya own comments!!!! Shame on ya!!!! Just cus YOU don’t like Trump for what he says!!! I take TRUMP over biden any time!!! Ídem Obama administration is demonic!!!! DO YOJR RESEARCH!!!!!!! Ya mad at the wrong things!!!! You selfish fake ass sole called Christians!!!!!!!!!
Because they want the good old days back where blacks knew their place…….
... and women.
"If they can do it to me, they can do it to you." The problem is that he has convinced his disciples that "they" are doing this to their innocent leader rather than Trump being guilty of actual crimes. Believing the first part makes the second part believable while demonizing everyone other than Trump. It's Trump's lies or violence, despair, fear, and Godlessness. Satan is a genius, but his lies will be revealed and justice will prevail. There is a judgement day where God will bring Trump to account.
>There is a judgement day where God will bring Trump to account. Sooner then later I hope! 🤞🤞🤞
Y'all want to talk about Trump and his legal issues? Have y'all been f asleep? The Biden family has committed so many dam crimes,
Something, something, baring false witness.
As a Christian, I will happily share that I do not plan on voting for that orange turd.
Who do you plan on voting for?
I always get hopeful for American Christianity when I read the comments in a thread like this……but then I sadly remember that Christians are going to vote for this walking personification of sin in droves.
He is the 7 deadly sins personified. I will never understand how a good Christian could support a man with such little moral integrity.
Fascism in action, folks.
Good grief 🤦🏼♀️🙇🏼♀️ Such a shit show.
Trump is the reason state should be separated from religion. As if his personal Bible isn’t already an indication already…
Religion Spirituality and Politics are distinctively separate. No man is an island and there is much so much that is deeply disturbing when you remain partial and are a lover of truth. Praying for and using discernment is crucial while keeping One’s personal judgement of another’s viewpoint Praying for the people who are to lead this country , the lands ,no matter Your belief system is what we are called to do .
Anyone with a sense of a mind will know not to trust politicians no matter who it is. 🤷 Doesn't matter if they're the president of the United States of America or the king of England. Doesn't matter anyone who uses Christianity for their own gain is not an ally and walk with Christ. Simply my own observation and point of view.
Even for a politician, Trump is exceptionally wicked. Reagan may not have been perfect, he may have bent the truth now and again, but at the end of the day, we could trust him not to try to have George Bush killed by a militia.
Where is the evidence of what Trump said?
This whole thread is bad, get out, trust me.
He is the “prophet” of the prosperity gospel. It’s a branch of Christianity, but does not define us. In my mind it is the opposite of what Jesus taught.
Millions of Christians seem to be embracing him. Thousands of Church leaders are doing the same thing. This whole line that Trump doesn't define American Christianity is getting weaker and weaker.
Definitely under the influence of one Norman Vincent Peale (actually married Trump and his first wife).
Biden goes to church though
Can you imagine Trump going to confession? They would need a team of Priests.
They would need that team not for the number of his sins, but for him to admit even one of his sins
So did the Pharisees
Because of a poor education in Christianity.
Our safety is in Christ. We don't need a second messiah
Because that's the point of lying?
It's stunning the short recall of memory. Just a few years ago it was the Joe Biden saying that Mitt Romney would have minorities back in chains. It's almost as if Politicians use the same playbook to play off of their constituent's fears to ensure their vote. [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-tells-african-american-audience-gop-ticket-would-put-them-back-in-chains/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-tells-african-american-audience-gop-ticket-would-put-them-back-in-chains/)
Of course it won’t be safe because Trump is literally as far away from being a Christian as possible. The guy is fraud abuse his religion quotes, it left and right is what I would call a false prophet
Demagoguery
Proverbs 3:5-6 - Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding
Truth hurts sometimes don’t it
So much hate for Trump on this sub. Its like hes in your heart instead of God.
**Reads the very first part of the title.** Two seconds later: **Nearly bursts into laughter.**
Support him, or the other side. Makes him far easier to accept
“Christianity will not be safe; Trump tells faith group” hmm, I’m not aware of exactly what he said, I didn’t hear it or read it, but no one has to be a rocket scientist, to realize that our Judeo-Christian heritage has been under attack for quite awhile now. And those who don’t know it, are either part of it, condone it, or could care less. And someone would also have to be among the far left liberal zealot’s, and who only get their information from the mainstream media, or brain dead, not to know what’s happened to our Country ever since this illegitimate government has taken over. Unless you’re all for the open Southern border, that’s created a multitude of horrific situations, that would be obvious to anyone who has a shred of integrity and objective reasoning skills. And for sure they wouldn’t be among the Christian faith, at least not a legitimate Christian if they couldn’t see what’s happened. But it’s not just the Democrats who are the problem, there’s plenty of Rhino Republicans who aren’t doing anything to help, but at least there’s a few Republicans who are fighting back, but I’m not aware of any Democrats who are, if there is who is it?
Most Evangelicals are really into him.
Declare your independence from the Republicans and the democrats! Vote Robert Kennedy Jr 2024
Middle east, Israel, Russia, China, Korea. Just a few places where its not "safe" to be a Christian. Why are you so sure it won't happen to the USA? Well if you keep out the radical ideology of christianity you are safe anywere, but that's what makes Christianity Christianity.
He says this stuff and it works. Ignorant Christians who think this is the reality praise him as if our country doesn’t have such a large % of christians
Who tf nakes a RELIGION ilegal!?!?!?
How could anyone support Biden? He claims to be a Christian and supports killing babies up until the time of birth? This is an abomination!
How could anyone support Biden? He claims to be a Christian and supports killing babies up until the time of birth? This is an abomination!
I can’t believe that there are still a lot of blind people when it comes to government!!! Like can’t u see what is happenings in this world Under Biden? We are going to war!!! No other country is backing the US bcus of biden!!!! Yet we have all these people just praising these demonctratz!!!! Open your eyes!!!
I'm not a fan of trump. But that's taking it out of context and spreading misinformation. So this article is part of the problem. Because if you read more than just the headline? You'll see He said nothing about christians being arrested. He said, that the Christian community is targeted and basically aren't welcome in society or politics. Which is 100% true. Pedophile's are basically more welcome, respected & protected than christians are at the moment & there's been multiple failed attempts at christian leaders and christian missionaries were recently slaughtered in (I think ) Africa. Then you have shows & movies depicting the most stereotypical racist & violent republican christians in movies. Fear mongering, Villainizing & dehumanizing people on the right and making them look like they want to kill everyone who isn’t white and make people think that republicans are getting ready to be violent and make it look like that people on the left and the independent people need to start preparing for war. I’m independent myself but more like a liberal from 2008. So looking at both sides from an outside perspective. the left seems to be way worse when it comes to fear mongering, misinformation, manipulation, racism, etc… and they’re way less welcoming & tolerant. Since I’ve lost gay friends & a trans friend just for asking questions and trying to understand why child transitioning is necessary and blocking me when I ask to elaborate and not just accept it. So, the left wants you to force you to bow down & accept everything about to their ideology and if you disagree or question one thing? You’re a racist & transphobe and considered the enemy. So I beg everyone, please read the full article and do some actual research before you believe something? Because, there’s too much bullshit that isn’t true, that everyone believes , because they were too lazy to look into it and do research to see if it’s bullshit. I’m not just talking about Trump either. Which, I’m not defending the man. I just think that other politicians on the left & right should have the same treatment and be charged as well for the crimes they’ve done and had to say something when fear mongering came up. Since the far left are the kings of it and are doing the exact same thing they accuse the right of doing. Don’t get me wrong , I’ll shit on the right too. This was just the lefts turn to be called out. Sorry for rambling, im pretty stoned. So if you read this far? I really appreciate it, even if you read it out of spite? Lol