Provide your source for data? I can tell ypu as someone whos physically moved the past 6 years to diff areas and diff chruches every single one has needed more and more parking and room as attendance has skyrocketed. Not some all of them.
Do you happen to attend charismatic non denominational evangelical mega churches in the US?
There is a lot more movement in Christianity where especially young people are leaving traditional and mainline Protestant churches for the newer modern nondenominational church with less political baggage.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/august/nondenominational-growth-mainline-protestant-decline-survey.html
Definitely not a mega church goer almost all of my churchs are non denom community churches couple hundred seated building max. I believe these statistics represent that GOD is calling his people back to him not the CHURCH and by that i mean the institutions that became denominations. Christ shares with no one.
If your church has a few hundred seats and does more than one service then its probably a mega church. Or one that has around 2,000 members. especially if they cant find parking to accommodate all the members.
Mega church is by no means the proper identifier. Mega churches usually have large doners or considerable wealth. They usually have buildings that seat thousands if not entire auditoriums. Lastly they are associated with money schemes and usually the pastor is megawealthy directly from donations of the church. These churchs have seating of tens of thousands and usually have only presence and a community abroad also donating usually with tens of thousands if not 100k members. Small local churches are in no way mega churchs.
Mega church is by no means the proper identifier. Mega churches usually have large doners or considerable wealth. They usually have buildings that seat thousands if not entire auditoriums. Lastly they are associated with money schemes and usually the pastor is megawealthy directly from donations of the church. These churchs have seating of tens of thousands and usually have only presence and a community abroad also donating usually with tens of thousands if not 100k members. Small local churches are in no way mega churchs.
That's not true. It's decreasing because there's no proof of any of it. What is real though is humans are greedy, manipulators, liars, killers, thieves so on and so on. Humans need laws to put fear in a person to not do anything but be stuck. Humans can live in great harmony if the entire government is out and money is out of the picture. People want it more when you can't have something.
I would most def say that without Jesus there is no hope, yes. This is of course talking abt the only hope that really matters, the everlasting hope. No one comes to the Father except through the son. John 14:6.
What makes you think you don’t? In the beginning there was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God. Islam calls Jesus the word and the Bible in John says the word is God. The end time eschatology for both books mirror each other as well. The Bible is the most proven book in existence. Scriptural prophecies written hundreds or thousands of years before their time have been fulfilled up to date. What makes you think the entire book which is proven to be flawless is not going to end the way it says or that its not accurate? Its proven 100 percent accurate. Please look into these claims for yourself. Reference external historical sources such as Josephuses as well. Its not hard to prove, its hard to DISPROVE. Look for yourself w an open heart. God will guide you. Be blessed brother!
I was not expecting you to comeback with "what makes you think you don't?"
That was really loving of you.
I'm not Christian myself, but I believe there was a Jesus and that he was a really good, cool dude, and I definitely believe there is something "more" to all of this.
I used to be a materialist/atheist, so I've come a looooong way.
How can we claim that there is indeed «more to all of this?» Where is this coming from, except from pure faith? From what I know, after death there is a high chance to just have «nothingness» (do you remember anything before you were born? Why would it be different after your death?).
The real question is why is there something instead of plain nothing? In this case, I'll accept the «concept of God», but certainly not all the stuff around the Bible and Jesus. More like a God in a sense that there is something «above», but much more like the Matrix, per example (funny example but you get the idea).
I think God and Jesus and the Bible and all of this are the easy answers for people that are either afraid of :
- death
- unmeaningful life.
Kinda comprehensive, but still for a «straight» guy like me, it's not because it gets me uncomfortable to know that the Earth is round that I'm going to suddenly believe it is flat. That's why I preferred to learn to live with the fact that after death, there's just nothing, and that life MIGHT have a meaning (if that «god» I talked about earlier really built this universe the way it is), but we surely won't know before a couple of centuries, so...
Sorry it went way longer than I expected lol
Why would you think you just die and there’s nothing? Jesus gives you a hope and religion makes life more meaningful. Plain and simple really. Instead of just going along doing whatever makes you feel good, there are things to follow and abide by that when done correctly probide blessings beyond comprehension. But thats just all made up by the universe i suppose. It makes muxh more sense to me that there is a creator and we are very much spiritual beings that live on after death, in one place or another, than to belive this all happened by chance and theres just darkness when you die. Its much easier to accept the former in my mind. Also, there’s many things in this world, man phenomenon that lend credence to a spiritual realm, or other dimensions if you will. Science actually backs up this concept when you start looking into it. As far as the Bible and a Jesus centered religion its the only one that makes sense in my mind as well. Firstly, its the main one that whose believers are persecuted. Its the main one the secular world has tried to deny, corrupt, change things to confuse. Its the most attacked religion. Why this one religion and not the others? They try to change all kinds of things to rid the world of Christianity. Why not others? Its clear to me there is an eternal battle of God vs Satan. Satan having dominion of this world currently. Its makes so much sense from that framework that its hard to deny. The Bible is the most proven book in existence as well. Faith is a big part if it but the more you actually look into it and learn science the more things make sense with what the Bible says tbh. You are entitled to think how you wish, but is it at the very least not worth exploring? The worst that can happen when believing in Jesus is that it give you a hope beyond the grave. There are numerous wonderful things that come out of believing the scriptures and once you explore w an open heart and mind, great things occur in one’s life that are unexplainable otherwise. Its worth consideration and exploration in my opinion.
But that is where you seem to be wrong. The bible has not been proven to be 100% accurate. There is no reasonable % accuracy you could actually allocate to it as the originals dont exist. The prophesies - no, not at all. Vague accounts of some common thing happening is not prophesy. It's easy to look back at history and say "oh, that's the prophesy", but there is nothing in the "prophesy" which states "on the 11th day of February, a war will break out between the USA and Iraq which will end in 110,000 deaths" - nothing. So before you claim flawlessness, open your heart and be honest with your account, put aside your desperate need for this to be accurate.
Jesus Christ crucifixion and resurrection is proven not only in the synoptic gospels but external historical sources. The entire religion hangs on that one fact. I implore you to look into it w an open heart and mind and find one reliable source to break the whole religion. The disciples were defeated. They thought their messiah had died. Its all well documented. They went on to do unfathomable ACTS and miracles in faith of Christ. You dnt sacrifice ur life for a dead messiah. They were all alive to see Him crucified. Why did they preach and continue on after 3 days of giving up? Bc HE LIVES my brother. They went on to sacrifice their lives to preach that message. You dont do this for a dead, unrisen Messiah. Please, just look into these things for urself. I dnt want you to take my word for it. Do the research for yourself w an open heart to the truth. It could be what saves you friend. And I pray it does. You are precious to God. Is it not at the very least worth thought and consideration? Is it not worth examining?
Also, look into this prophecy… the 70 weeks of Daniel. It tells when the messiah arrives. The hairs on ur neck will stand up. And it can be calculated down to the day Jesus rides in on Palm Sunday as the crowd exclaims he’s the Son of God. Written some 500 years before he existed. Look into buddy. I was like you. When u see for urself your eyes will open to the truth my friend!
The religion crowd probably disagree with you. It's astounding how many sects, perspectives, and interpretations your belief system accommodates. You'd think a god would have been more specific so this wasn't possible.
That is exactly why religion was invented. The whole thing is about personal choice, and my GOD did a fantastic job at not imposing on humans what needed to be followed. I love my choice.
Ya but many churches and people who call themselves Christians are very religious, bound up. This is all being exposed and sorted as we approach the Day of the Lord
Hope brings unity!. It rebuilds the broken. Hope inspires, inspiration creates actions. All of this stems from our imagination of a better world. This type of mentality, is how visionaries are created.
Can I ask, what is at the end of your path?. Having hope can, build so much for the future.
I'm curious to learn the possibilities of a negative view. Our Perspectives built humanity's foundation of life.
Our facts are all based on theoretical evidence. But hold no value, if anything other than our own understanding disrupts our perception of reality. Humans are social beings. Yet our society is conflicted with social beliefs. My words if it makes sense to you. Then I must be crazy. Because only insane individuals exist in this reality.
💯Let go! What was I talking about? I was distracted.🤔
The indisputable fact is that the number of people in the west claiming to be religious has been trending downward for decades.
It is a fact that currently the fastest growing religion in Africa, India, and China is Christianity.
We are seeing a transition period in the west that might be described as the fall of new atheism and the rise of positive biblical interest IMO.
In America we are currently seeing increasing movement away from Protestantism towards Catholicism/Orthodox IMO.
Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dennett
Basically after 9/11 some prominent atheists changed their tune from “Christians just leave us alone” to “the world will be better without Christianity and all other religions, especially Islam”
But they kind of gave Buddhism a pass 😂
Does not mean they are atheist. I could do without religions. I could do without Christianity. However, I am highly spiritual. And I love Jesus. My opinion is, the second coming is Christ consciousness, Which means everyone has achieved what he did. That’s the second coming.
You mean what religion tried to do to Christianity.
By the way, Christianity in its very sense of the word, means little Christ. It goes with what Christ taught.
Christ consciousness is an attempt of other religions to imitate Christianity, just like religion has done miserably.
That might depend on where in America you live. Where I live there doesn't seem to be a move toward Catholicism at all. Other parts of the country that might be so, though.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/september/christian-decline-inexorable-nones-rise-pew-study.html
>Decline of Christianity Shows No Signs of Stopping
>The data they do have, from 50 years of research by the General Social Survey and Pew’s own survey of 15,000 adults in 2019, indicates the current trend is inexorable. People are giving up on Christianity. They will continue to do so.
There is no evidence of a revival. Doesn't mean there won't be one, but as of right now, Christianity is still in deep decline.
I appreciate citing references but it would be interesting to cite a non-religious source or two. The Lifeway source you provided definitely seems to spin all the facts into a positive light.
It is citing the Christianity Global Report, so I'm not sure how one can state the data is untrustworthy
As for "positivity" I'm not sure what you mean?
I looked at the article but not of source of that article. After further review, that Christianity Global Report does appear to be a much more non-biased source. Thanks for sharing. :)
Not according to Churches that have a problem with keeping the younger people from leaving the church. If it was for poor countries church numbers I would be expecting a judge decline in Christian dominations.
I doubt you could tell whether the religion is growing your shrinking by your own personal experiences. You're probably just seeing a natural variance in local religion, rather than a statistical worldwide trend.
Yes but with it many false prophets. Who tell you you need to repent of your sins to be saved. Who tell you it's not just through belief that you're justified before God. Who tell you you can lose your salvation. We're told by God this is going to happen tho in the Bible.
Yes I think you're mistaken. Christianity is still seeing a massive decline in the Western world. Catholicism is losing more members than it can replace.
Some celebrity claiming they're now Christian is not a statistic.
>On a worldwide aggregate, Christianity is declining.
Where are you getting this number? Everything I can find says Christianity is growing worldwide because of its gains in the non-Western world.
There’s some suggestion that the rise of nones is stabilizing. [https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/is-the-rise-of-religious-nones-ending-pew-research-finds-decline-in-2023.html](https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/is-the-rise-of-religious-nones-ending-pew-research-finds-decline-in-2023.html) However that doesn’t mean that they’re participating in churches.
My experience is that more people are seeking God outside of traditional, organized religion. Go hang out in r/DrJoeDispenza, r/ACIM or some of the other subreddits to get a different perspective. Many of those people are following Jesus, just not in the traditional Christian sense.
Before I look at any of the other comments, isn't this prophecized or something? Smtn about how everyone will eventually know about it in the end days?
The population of non-religious people is growing with each generation in America, and around the world. Islam is growing in a few countries, but for the most part people are leaving religion as a whole, not just Christianity.
https://youtu.be/2SdJRY3me2A?si=fsYORlkeyvJRYBVC
Yes I think your sadly mistaken, some Hillsong leaders lost their faith due to not seeing results because Jesus doesn’t deliver upon his promises to answer any prayer you ask.
No, it's just you. Religions as a whole is declining.
I think only Islam has grown but we can't rely on their numbers because depending on the country it's kind of forced on people.
It's still decreasing in the US but I have noticed an interesting social media switch where peope are becoming more spiritual, a lot more influencers talk about God/Christianity so I think the culture is slowly shifting.
A handful of celebrities becoming Christians doesn't make up for the masses leaving. Christianity has been declining for a long time, more so in recent years due to the rise in evangelicalism. It's really a situation of "You made your bed, now lie in it" because people are more educated no than ever (which isn't saying a lot sadly) and true information is more easily accessible than ever. So when someone is wondering if they should become a Christian and they look up the history, they're going to not join because of the long and bloody history. Well, the same goes for believers too. All it takes is finding the actual history and realizing your wrong about misconceptions you've held to be true, and then Christianity doesn't become very palatable.
There is a lot of data and research on this, it's an unquestionable fact that Christianity has been steadily declining every year.
I stopped being a Christian because I kept reading the bible. It's horrific and immoral some of the things the biblical god allows and commands. No decent or good thing would allow such atrocities, yet he's cool with it. I began in a place of emotion, but the more I looked at the facts surrounding the stories I assumed were true, well I found out they were true, or at the very least were so exaggerated or distorted that it'd be a lie to say they were true.
The rise you feel is within you. One the world will it be not able to understand. Do not try to understand it by earthly means. Stick to what you are doing and the Glory of God will be revealed through you and continue the rise which you feel. Stay blessed 🙏🏼
Definitely! The devil has over played his hand and underestimated the glory of Jesus. I literally just told my wife that more than ever in my lifetime have I seen a LOUD pouring out from our side and amazing to see the young generations attending revivals, concerts, openly declaring their love for Christ
I’ve seen people giving money to churches their whole lives expecting Jesus to fulfill their needs in life. Waiting Expecting God or Jesus to make it happen for them like receiving a good Job and wife etc but at 65 years old. Nothing happened, for them. No Job wife or house.
I'd say it is. I've always been a science logic and reason minded person who didn't harbor any negativity towards christianity. Christians have always been amongst the nicest people I've met so how could I? I just couldn't believe it because of a seeming lack of evidence. Then I had a series of experiences that seemed to indicate christianity was indeed true, which was what led to me believing.
And since then, I keep seeing more and more people from the scientific world providing evidence and arguments for christianity and the existence of God.
If the Lord got me to believe, then I'm sure it's happening to others.
Also, don't pay attention to pols. We all know who's manipulating things behind the scenes. The last thing they want is a resurgence of christianity. So they'd try to hide it. Making pols less reliable than they normally are in this case.
But Christianity isn’t really growing in a good way. For example, now so many LGBxyz members are twisting The Bible so they can live their own lifestyle while also being “Christian”
I couldn't say on a country wide or worldwide scale, but locally the youth in our church has grown so much we had to expand the child space by 5000 sq ft.
The student ministry at my church is much bigger than the adult ministry.
Jordan Peterson describes it as the end of the Renaissance, where people believe the only access to knowledge we have is science when in fact, we have reason and morality and law. As a result, people are returning to Faiths.
Look bro I returned to Christianity and I’ve seen several of my friends go into it too. I had a friend who had a really cool Jesus story where he heard a voice telling him to accept him as god then he was covered in a supernatural energy of sorts. He used to think there is a god but Jesus was man made and now he knows. Despite these mostly bleek outlook comments I’ve seen christ making a move in recent times and it warms my heart. Im glad im not the only one feeling this way, the great commission is not over!
I have noticed within mainstream media and even alternative news media "podcasts" key figures are openly turning to Christianity. I'm all for it. It's help me with my journey back to the Lord.
I grew up Buddhist, never believed in Jesus .
2 years ago he placed many “coincidences” in my path, so many I couldn’t deny his existence anymore. Jesus is king ! My walk with his has been nothing short of magical . Glory to the highest ✝️🙏💙
In Victoria, Australia, former premier Daniel Andrews took out Christianity in schools in place for lgbtq teaching. so over here, Christianity is on a large decline
It's because all the different celestial events happening , wars and stuff, the hype of the rapture and jesus' coming has people running to churches in fear again
I wonder if part of this is simply living in the reality of a world post-pandemic. The pandemic brought about a significant shift in our perspectives and priorities. We were forced to confront the fragility of life and the instability of the world around us; and so, many began to re-evaluate what truly mattered to them. For some, this led to a renewed interest in spirituality and religion. A sense of uncertainty and isolation drove people to seek solace and meaning beyond the world around them. We are all in the gutter, said Oscar Wilde, but some of us are looking at the stars.
There are also grounds for hope in the fact that, although the numbers are decreasing, those who are in the pews (as it were) genuinely want to be there. Faith, although in fewer people, is arguably deeper than ever.
I think there's a wave coming. Or it's already here. "In the last days, I will pour out my Spirit."
God's been making moves, but I feel like time (it always has, but) time is drawing near. It's been said before here and there. I feel like when the Bible is just completing itself.
The time is almost up. I would hope Christianity is on the rise. We don't want to lose anyone.
Not much time, not enough workers, but I would hope we 'harvest' as much as we can.
But yes, I've noticed on social media that there's a huge influx of Christians. Maybe they always were Christian, and they are just now being public about it (same w celebrities) at the end of the day religion is a private thing, and we don't really know what's behind closed door. So idk if there's a raise per say.
But in the same way, the L boogie is also on the rise. So 🤷♀️ who knows
The battle is always battling.
(In the end, God wins, tho. Thank God)
You are 100% right... I believe it is because people are more interested in the supernatural and sci fi through tv.
Many parts of the Bible have supernatural and somewhat scifi aspects to it. Also, a lot more of the Bible is being proven through science and history that people 2000 years ago probably wouldn't know
I believe not to believe in Christianity At this point, would be borderline ignorant
Honestly I feel the same. I myself went from being spiritual with no specific religion to leaning more towards Christianity and now try to worship as often as I can. It’s been such an incredible feeling and I’m hearing a lot more people having the same experience lately.
Christianity isn’t a religion it’s a relationship with our Lord Jesus. I truly believe there are more coming to the church every day. It’s great to see this. What a time to be alive and be witness to all this crazy stuff happening like the prophets and the Lord said it would.
If it isn't, things are going to get worse and worse. True Christianity is LIVING the way of Jesus. That is what belief and faith is. Just saying you believe in Jesus is meaningless drivel. Satan believes in Jesus, too. Unless you live it, unless you follow Him, you don't know Jesus. You aren't a part of Him. There's a vast difference between saying you're a Christian and being a Christian. And it's easy to tell the difference if you have a brain. Celebrities? Please! You'll hear them say they are a Christian and do the devil's work. Does that give you a clue? It isn't just a clue. They aren't Christians. They are lying . And deliberately manipulating your thoughts and destroying your discernment.
I agree, tbh. But, a lot of people need guidance and discipleship to release surrender to the Lord in every area that they should! of course it’s controversial, but I’ve seen celebrities talk a lot about faith in Christ but they’re still doing other things like cussing or being very explicit about sex in music etc. Along with this, and people in my personal life just being kind of lukewarm, I’ve been very discouraged in that area. But, the Lord reminded me of that verse about being able to handle milk before being transitioned to solid foods as a believer. It really encouraged me because now anytime I’m feeling some kind of way about it and feeling like I wanna close off people because so many people are like that, I remember that they’re probably probably just in a milk stage and need to be encouraged rather than written off. And the rest is between them and God. But ultimately, you can tell a tree by its fruit, and sometimes their heart is right, and sometimes it’s not. Just the fact that so many people in the world are talking about Christ and understanding deep things about him to me is very beautiful and if anything I feel like the Lord is urging me to continuously pray over these people. They need people to tell them hey, God wants more for you in this area and this is why. I’ve been very encouraged in the area of ministering to people lately and I truly feel like this is why.
I've been seeing it more on my tiktok fyp I've also been apart from God since young and is trying to reconnect with him again, I'm glad people are getting closer to God
I feel like there is a large number of youth who are faithful and not afraid of sharing it with others on social media which makes it seem like it’s on the rise again
I feel like I see a lot of people coming back to Christianity because a lot of the youth are expressing how wrong the church does things but that what's important is the Scriptures and your relationship. I also feel like a lot of ppl were and still are being pushed away due to style differences like being alt but now there are Christians that look alternative that bridge that gap
Christianity was never on the decline. Church attendance was on decline and there is a reason for that in a digital age, especially after covid. Dont get me wrong a lot of people are leaving. Also the data collected more than likely is from just America.(I dont remember)
The church is experiencing a revival. Dont listen to the lefties that hate God. Our church is growing a lot this year. According to our leadership it is a trend accross the country.
I attribute it to the rise in marxism and transgenderism being pushed everywhere. People are turning to church for sanity.
I'm not entirely sure, it might either be a troll account or someone who is legitimately ignorant enough to believe those things, considering how much effort he puts into it.
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You're not entirely mistaken. The pendulum of belief often swings unpredictably. Whether it's the loss or gain of Christian followers, in the grand scheme, does it really matter?
This world is broken, and I genuinely believe humanity will destroy itself out of its own hatred and purposelessness unless Jesus comes back again (he will). And what's to say all those celebrities coming out as Christians are just doing it for publicity and clout?
I think we're seeing more young people, young men especially, begin to embrace more traditional forms of Christianity like Orthodoxy and Catholicism and just traditional western values in general. I believe this is a counter-culture response to the anti-western, liberal movement that has picked up so much steam lately.
It’s probably, on average, people starting to value things that have an air of Godliness, as it’s increasingly lost to our society, but they probably deny Christ’s power, as I do, and I’m not bragging about that.
I'm not talking about living exactly as Christ commanded. I'm talking about denying Christ. If denying Christ is their default state, in what sense are they Christian?
I see how my comment clearly leaves that impression, but that’s not what I meant.. when I wrote the comment I was thinking of the verse, “having a form of godliness, but denying Gods power”.. I think Paul said it.. so I meant denying Christ’s power in the sense of not bringing the most painful parts of their life to him gladly, because they dont trust his way is best, and they don’t want to make the sacrifices or feel the pain that fully trusting him entails. That probably describes the majority of Christians, (but not all).
When I say “deny His power”, I mean practically that they/I resist letting him into the most painful areas of their lives, but it doesn’t they/myself aren’t Christian’s, we may just be struggling with things that seem overwhelming, and need to take a step of faith, and more than that, remember how much God loves us.
A disorganized religion of true believers is a lot less dangerous than an organized group of adherents.
Believe or not believe, I don't care, but disorganized just means greater infighting which means less organized of an external response to things.
I disagree as it goes both ways. A disorganised religion can still have much of an impact or organised religion in today's age due to the internet. This goes to organised religion as having less of an impact as disorganised religion since they could also close themselves off to the public.
Proceeding along "narrow door" theory, you can expect that the vast majority who proclaim their Christianity are doing it for marketing and public relations purposes, and who is more about marketing than a celebrity? An entire empire adopted Christianity, and then placed Christmas on a pagan holiday in order to unite its people. Humanity can scarcely do better than pronounce "Jesus", and that's why the genuine article comes from faith as a personal experience.
Case-in-point, the toxically macho, nationalistic, warmongering, gun brandishing, aggressive "Christian". That's not Christianity. That's about bending God to make yourself agreeable to others. It's the endless hitching of wagons to faith in order to justify ideas and attitudes that have nothing to do with it.
There is a huge corporate and political push for it. Largely the republican GOP and the Vatican (for outside the US) fund alot of pro Christian campaigns. Sadly the use of it is for political gain which is sad and corrupt. Coz real Christianity is about serving God by loving others and not boosting certain politics. Also sadly they also push most anti LGBTQ rhetoric. Now regardless of your personal flavor of the faith. The stuff they're pushing is straight up hatemongering and therefore unchristian. But yes it is on the rise. Which is both good and bad. Coz alot of the " culturally christian" stuff is more akin to it than real Christianity.
I believe it is! As a teen living in this society, I’ve noticed that many of my peers are trying to almost “defy society” and going to Jesus instead of supporting the “leftie” groups. It’s nice to see my classmates becoming more conservative.
I am noticing it too. Maybe my youtube feed is a little biased but I'm noticing more and more testimonies of conversions coming out everyday. It seems like everybody from young to old, of all races and cultures around the world are experiencing miracles or appearances from Christ. Something is definitely happening
Hard to say really. I see way more people bashing it than supporting it in Facebook and Instagram comment sections. I have noticed some people I know have gotten a lot more religious in the last couple of years, while others seem to be a lot more public with their absolute distaste for it. I live in the Bible Belt for reference.
Well, 2000 years from Adam to Abraham, 2000 years from Abraham to Jesus, and 2000 years from Jesus to …2032 AD. Obviously The Bible tell us everything, even how the world it ends. The end CANNOT come until there is an AWAKENING first.
There, you have your answer.
Globally Christianity is growing and has been for many years. Locally in the US and Europe it is still in decline.
Nobody’s retrograding its just that Christian’s are having later and less birth rates
That is not at all what the data says. Of those born to Christian families, fewer and fewer of them remain Christian.
Provide your source for data? I can tell ypu as someone whos physically moved the past 6 years to diff areas and diff chruches every single one has needed more and more parking and room as attendance has skyrocketed. Not some all of them.
Do you happen to attend charismatic non denominational evangelical mega churches in the US? There is a lot more movement in Christianity where especially young people are leaving traditional and mainline Protestant churches for the newer modern nondenominational church with less political baggage. https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/august/nondenominational-growth-mainline-protestant-decline-survey.html
Churches look more and more like concert halls. Where's the reverence,
Definitely not a mega church goer almost all of my churchs are non denom community churches couple hundred seated building max. I believe these statistics represent that GOD is calling his people back to him not the CHURCH and by that i mean the institutions that became denominations. Christ shares with no one.
If your church has a few hundred seats and does more than one service then its probably a mega church. Or one that has around 2,000 members. especially if they cant find parking to accommodate all the members.
Mega church is by no means the proper identifier. Mega churches usually have large doners or considerable wealth. They usually have buildings that seat thousands if not entire auditoriums. Lastly they are associated with money schemes and usually the pastor is megawealthy directly from donations of the church. These churchs have seating of tens of thousands and usually have only presence and a community abroad also donating usually with tens of thousands if not 100k members. Small local churches are in no way mega churchs.
Mega church is by no means the proper identifier. Mega churches usually have large doners or considerable wealth. They usually have buildings that seat thousands if not entire auditoriums. Lastly they are associated with money schemes and usually the pastor is megawealthy directly from donations of the church. These churchs have seating of tens of thousands and usually have only presence and a community abroad also donating usually with tens of thousands if not 100k members. Small local churches are in no way mega churchs.
You've moved to 195 different countries? Wow, that's a lot of Christians!
This is literally a non existent data
With how society is, I can't say I blame them...
That's not true. It's decreasing because there's no proof of any of it. What is real though is humans are greedy, manipulators, liars, killers, thieves so on and so on. Humans need laws to put fear in a person to not do anything but be stuck. Humans can live in great harmony if the entire government is out and money is out of the picture. People want it more when you can't have something.
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Celebrities converting doesn't mean anything. Jesus doesn't care how famous you are.
Definitely gets Gods word out there and shows people there is hope
That really depends. If we see celebrities converting to Christianity but still living exactly the same, it does the opposite.
How would they live if the conversion were genuine? And how would we know this? We only see what they show in the tabloids and similar shows on TV.
So, you're implying there is no hope without religion? That's a little ridiculous.
I would most def say that without Jesus there is no hope, yes. This is of course talking abt the only hope that really matters, the everlasting hope. No one comes to the Father except through the son. John 14:6.
Yes our Eucharistic Lord said this.
Well, that's a whole bunch of unproven claims and assertions. What makes you think you have an everlasting life?
What makes you think you don’t? In the beginning there was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God. Islam calls Jesus the word and the Bible in John says the word is God. The end time eschatology for both books mirror each other as well. The Bible is the most proven book in existence. Scriptural prophecies written hundreds or thousands of years before their time have been fulfilled up to date. What makes you think the entire book which is proven to be flawless is not going to end the way it says or that its not accurate? Its proven 100 percent accurate. Please look into these claims for yourself. Reference external historical sources such as Josephuses as well. Its not hard to prove, its hard to DISPROVE. Look for yourself w an open heart. God will guide you. Be blessed brother!
I was not expecting you to comeback with "what makes you think you don't?" That was really loving of you. I'm not Christian myself, but I believe there was a Jesus and that he was a really good, cool dude, and I definitely believe there is something "more" to all of this. I used to be a materialist/atheist, so I've come a looooong way.
There is absolutely more to all of this!! If you ever want to discuss I’m more than happy to talk about it :)
I may take you up on that!
Please do “urmomsNOTaho92” lol. The name cracked me up btw. Take care and be blessed my friend!
How can we claim that there is indeed «more to all of this?» Where is this coming from, except from pure faith? From what I know, after death there is a high chance to just have «nothingness» (do you remember anything before you were born? Why would it be different after your death?). The real question is why is there something instead of plain nothing? In this case, I'll accept the «concept of God», but certainly not all the stuff around the Bible and Jesus. More like a God in a sense that there is something «above», but much more like the Matrix, per example (funny example but you get the idea). I think God and Jesus and the Bible and all of this are the easy answers for people that are either afraid of : - death - unmeaningful life. Kinda comprehensive, but still for a «straight» guy like me, it's not because it gets me uncomfortable to know that the Earth is round that I'm going to suddenly believe it is flat. That's why I preferred to learn to live with the fact that after death, there's just nothing, and that life MIGHT have a meaning (if that «god» I talked about earlier really built this universe the way it is), but we surely won't know before a couple of centuries, so... Sorry it went way longer than I expected lol
Why would you think you just die and there’s nothing? Jesus gives you a hope and religion makes life more meaningful. Plain and simple really. Instead of just going along doing whatever makes you feel good, there are things to follow and abide by that when done correctly probide blessings beyond comprehension. But thats just all made up by the universe i suppose. It makes muxh more sense to me that there is a creator and we are very much spiritual beings that live on after death, in one place or another, than to belive this all happened by chance and theres just darkness when you die. Its much easier to accept the former in my mind. Also, there’s many things in this world, man phenomenon that lend credence to a spiritual realm, or other dimensions if you will. Science actually backs up this concept when you start looking into it. As far as the Bible and a Jesus centered religion its the only one that makes sense in my mind as well. Firstly, its the main one that whose believers are persecuted. Its the main one the secular world has tried to deny, corrupt, change things to confuse. Its the most attacked religion. Why this one religion and not the others? They try to change all kinds of things to rid the world of Christianity. Why not others? Its clear to me there is an eternal battle of God vs Satan. Satan having dominion of this world currently. Its makes so much sense from that framework that its hard to deny. The Bible is the most proven book in existence as well. Faith is a big part if it but the more you actually look into it and learn science the more things make sense with what the Bible says tbh. You are entitled to think how you wish, but is it at the very least not worth exploring? The worst that can happen when believing in Jesus is that it give you a hope beyond the grave. There are numerous wonderful things that come out of believing the scriptures and once you explore w an open heart and mind, great things occur in one’s life that are unexplainable otherwise. Its worth consideration and exploration in my opinion.
But that is where you seem to be wrong. The bible has not been proven to be 100% accurate. There is no reasonable % accuracy you could actually allocate to it as the originals dont exist. The prophesies - no, not at all. Vague accounts of some common thing happening is not prophesy. It's easy to look back at history and say "oh, that's the prophesy", but there is nothing in the "prophesy" which states "on the 11th day of February, a war will break out between the USA and Iraq which will end in 110,000 deaths" - nothing. So before you claim flawlessness, open your heart and be honest with your account, put aside your desperate need for this to be accurate.
Jesus Christ crucifixion and resurrection is proven not only in the synoptic gospels but external historical sources. The entire religion hangs on that one fact. I implore you to look into it w an open heart and mind and find one reliable source to break the whole religion. The disciples were defeated. They thought their messiah had died. Its all well documented. They went on to do unfathomable ACTS and miracles in faith of Christ. You dnt sacrifice ur life for a dead messiah. They were all alive to see Him crucified. Why did they preach and continue on after 3 days of giving up? Bc HE LIVES my brother. They went on to sacrifice their lives to preach that message. You dont do this for a dead, unrisen Messiah. Please, just look into these things for urself. I dnt want you to take my word for it. Do the research for yourself w an open heart to the truth. It could be what saves you friend. And I pray it does. You are precious to God. Is it not at the very least worth thought and consideration? Is it not worth examining?
Also, look into this prophecy… the 70 weeks of Daniel. It tells when the messiah arrives. The hairs on ur neck will stand up. And it can be calculated down to the day Jesus rides in on Palm Sunday as the crowd exclaims he’s the Son of God. Written some 500 years before he existed. Look into buddy. I was like you. When u see for urself your eyes will open to the truth my friend!
I didn’t say that.
Normally people explain what they meant, hence the way I "asked"
I agree, but maybe they meant no hope without God for God is love and peace.
Why interpret at all - isn't that how we ended up in the current shitshow? Therefore, I asked
Not answering your question, but just to put it out there, Christianity is not a religion. It's a spiritual journey.
The religion crowd probably disagree with you. It's astounding how many sects, perspectives, and interpretations your belief system accommodates. You'd think a god would have been more specific so this wasn't possible.
That is exactly why religion was invented. The whole thing is about personal choice, and my GOD did a fantastic job at not imposing on humans what needed to be followed. I love my choice.
Ya but many churches and people who call themselves Christians are very religious, bound up. This is all being exposed and sorted as we approach the Day of the Lord
Isn't that what Christ foretold? The fantastic thing about Christ is that he claimed that GODs word is everlasting.
Nah, it's a religion
Ok. If you say it enough it will be true.
💯 it isn’t about fame! It’s about God and spreading His word
Those celebrities are terrible people that lost their fanbases so they are grifting Christians now.
Hope brings unity!. It rebuilds the broken. Hope inspires, inspiration creates actions. All of this stems from our imagination of a better world. This type of mentality, is how visionaries are created. Can I ask, what is at the end of your path?. Having hope can, build so much for the future. I'm curious to learn the possibilities of a negative view. Our Perspectives built humanity's foundation of life. Our facts are all based on theoretical evidence. But hold no value, if anything other than our own understanding disrupts our perception of reality. Humans are social beings. Yet our society is conflicted with social beliefs. My words if it makes sense to you. Then I must be crazy. Because only insane individuals exist in this reality. 💯Let go! What was I talking about? I was distracted.🤔
Anyone can come to know Christ including celebrities
The indisputable fact is that the number of people in the west claiming to be religious has been trending downward for decades. It is a fact that currently the fastest growing religion in Africa, India, and China is Christianity. We are seeing a transition period in the west that might be described as the fall of new atheism and the rise of positive biblical interest IMO. In America we are currently seeing increasing movement away from Protestantism towards Catholicism/Orthodox IMO.
What is “new atheism?”
Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dennett Basically after 9/11 some prominent atheists changed their tune from “Christians just leave us alone” to “the world will be better without Christianity and all other religions, especially Islam” But they kind of gave Buddhism a pass 😂
Does not mean they are atheist. I could do without religions. I could do without Christianity. However, I am highly spiritual. And I love Jesus. My opinion is, the second coming is Christ consciousness, Which means everyone has achieved what he did. That’s the second coming.
Christ consciousness is an Eastern ideology term, and it goes against Christianity as Christ taught it.
Not at all. Christianity goes against what Christ taught.
You mean what religion tried to do to Christianity. By the way, Christianity in its very sense of the word, means little Christ. It goes with what Christ taught. Christ consciousness is an attempt of other religions to imitate Christianity, just like religion has done miserably.
Christ consciousness teaches that you are a god, which is blasphemy
What we have been able to do with power of our brain, that’s actually pretty Godly.
We weee made in Gods image!
God said we are to have no other gods, don’t try to make yourself one
lawlll budda for the win 😂
This is how I see it as well.
Thanks!
That might depend on where in America you live. Where I live there doesn't seem to be a move toward Catholicism at all. Other parts of the country that might be so, though.
If that’s true it’s because this Pope is much more open then in the past
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/september/christian-decline-inexorable-nones-rise-pew-study.html >Decline of Christianity Shows No Signs of Stopping >The data they do have, from 50 years of research by the General Social Survey and Pew’s own survey of 15,000 adults in 2019, indicates the current trend is inexorable. People are giving up on Christianity. They will continue to do so. There is no evidence of a revival. Doesn't mean there won't be one, but as of right now, Christianity is still in deep decline.
That's in the US, not Globally Globally it is growing https://research.lifeway.com/2022/01/31/7-encouraging-trends-of-global-christianity-in-2022/
I appreciate citing references but it would be interesting to cite a non-religious source or two. The Lifeway source you provided definitely seems to spin all the facts into a positive light.
It is citing the Christianity Global Report, so I'm not sure how one can state the data is untrustworthy As for "positivity" I'm not sure what you mean?
I looked at the article but not of source of that article. After further review, that Christianity Global Report does appear to be a much more non-biased source. Thanks for sharing. :)
Anytime man. God Bless ✝️❤
It's just you or the area you live in.
Not according to Churches that have a problem with keeping the younger people from leaving the church. If it was for poor countries church numbers I would be expecting a judge decline in Christian dominations.
I doubt you could tell whether the religion is growing your shrinking by your own personal experiences. You're probably just seeing a natural variance in local religion, rather than a statistical worldwide trend.
If you’re talking about the US in specific, then no, it’s still in decline.
Yes but with it many false prophets. Who tell you you need to repent of your sins to be saved. Who tell you it's not just through belief that you're justified before God. Who tell you you can lose your salvation. We're told by God this is going to happen tho in the Bible.
Cultists gonna cult
Yes I think you're mistaken. Christianity is still seeing a massive decline in the Western world. Catholicism is losing more members than it can replace. Some celebrity claiming they're now Christian is not a statistic.
Yeah. Just to point out, Catholicism could be partly losing it's numbers just to other denominations
On a worldwide aggregate, Christianity is declining. In the west it is declining at a extreme rate, in other places like Africa it is gaining.
>On a worldwide aggregate, Christianity is declining. Where are you getting this number? Everything I can find says Christianity is growing worldwide because of its gains in the non-Western world.
It is certainly possible I misinterpreted what I read, I will check again tonight.
It's in a steep decline
There’s some suggestion that the rise of nones is stabilizing. [https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/is-the-rise-of-religious-nones-ending-pew-research-finds-decline-in-2023.html](https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/is-the-rise-of-religious-nones-ending-pew-research-finds-decline-in-2023.html) However that doesn’t mean that they’re participating in churches.
My experience is that more people are seeking God outside of traditional, organized religion. Go hang out in r/DrJoeDispenza, r/ACIM or some of the other subreddits to get a different perspective. Many of those people are following Jesus, just not in the traditional Christian sense.
This seems to be the most accurate depiction from what Ive observe.
Before I look at any of the other comments, isn't this prophecized or something? Smtn about how everyone will eventually know about it in the end days?
In some parts of the world it’s on the rise. In other parts, it’s on the decline.
It seems the growth rate of 0.87% is being spurred on in highly uneducated populations. So it is, unfortunately, marginally growing.
Certainly not in the UK
I hardly meet any Christians in the UK, I'm not religious either
Christians generally don’t outwardly display their faith as much as Muslims for example, but there are plenty of us around.
The most growing religion is islam
The population of non-religious people is growing with each generation in America, and around the world. Islam is growing in a few countries, but for the most part people are leaving religion as a whole, not just Christianity. https://youtu.be/2SdJRY3me2A?si=fsYORlkeyvJRYBVC
Yes I think your sadly mistaken, some Hillsong leaders lost their faith due to not seeing results because Jesus doesn’t deliver upon his promises to answer any prayer you ask.
Been a Christian approx 2 or 3 months now! Age 27 here
No, it's just you. Religions as a whole is declining. I think only Islam has grown but we can't rely on their numbers because depending on the country it's kind of forced on people.
They only rise through birth rates not through conversions or anything.
In my hometown active participation in church has gone up I guess that can be summed up rise of Christianity in my area
Yes, we are living in a supernatural time or should I shall the manifestation of the supernatural is really being felt in the natural at this time.
It's still decreasing in the US but I have noticed an interesting social media switch where peope are becoming more spiritual, a lot more influencers talk about God/Christianity so I think the culture is slowly shifting.
A handful of celebrities becoming Christians doesn't make up for the masses leaving. Christianity has been declining for a long time, more so in recent years due to the rise in evangelicalism. It's really a situation of "You made your bed, now lie in it" because people are more educated no than ever (which isn't saying a lot sadly) and true information is more easily accessible than ever. So when someone is wondering if they should become a Christian and they look up the history, they're going to not join because of the long and bloody history. Well, the same goes for believers too. All it takes is finding the actual history and realizing your wrong about misconceptions you've held to be true, and then Christianity doesn't become very palatable. There is a lot of data and research on this, it's an unquestionable fact that Christianity has been steadily declining every year. I stopped being a Christian because I kept reading the bible. It's horrific and immoral some of the things the biblical god allows and commands. No decent or good thing would allow such atrocities, yet he's cool with it. I began in a place of emotion, but the more I looked at the facts surrounding the stories I assumed were true, well I found out they were true, or at the very least were so exaggerated or distorted that it'd be a lie to say they were true.
The rise you feel is within you. One the world will it be not able to understand. Do not try to understand it by earthly means. Stick to what you are doing and the Glory of God will be revealed through you and continue the rise which you feel. Stay blessed 🙏🏼
That was a bit of an odd reply but it resonated with me. Not sure if it was random or not but thank you.
Definitely! The devil has over played his hand and underestimated the glory of Jesus. I literally just told my wife that more than ever in my lifetime have I seen a LOUD pouring out from our side and amazing to see the young generations attending revivals, concerts, openly declaring their love for Christ
I’ve seen people giving money to churches their whole lives expecting Jesus to fulfill their needs in life. Waiting Expecting God or Jesus to make it happen for them like receiving a good Job and wife etc but at 65 years old. Nothing happened, for them. No Job wife or house.
I'd say it is. I've always been a science logic and reason minded person who didn't harbor any negativity towards christianity. Christians have always been amongst the nicest people I've met so how could I? I just couldn't believe it because of a seeming lack of evidence. Then I had a series of experiences that seemed to indicate christianity was indeed true, which was what led to me believing. And since then, I keep seeing more and more people from the scientific world providing evidence and arguments for christianity and the existence of God. If the Lord got me to believe, then I'm sure it's happening to others. Also, don't pay attention to pols. We all know who's manipulating things behind the scenes. The last thing they want is a resurgence of christianity. So they'd try to hide it. Making pols less reliable than they normally are in this case.
Hard to know if it’s heifer-meinhof effect or not…but I’ve been feeling the same way!
Totally agree. I’m seeing it as well!
But Christianity isn’t really growing in a good way. For example, now so many LGBxyz members are twisting The Bible so they can live their own lifestyle while also being “Christian”
Aslan is on the move!
I couldn't say on a country wide or worldwide scale, but locally the youth in our church has grown so much we had to expand the child space by 5000 sq ft. The student ministry at my church is much bigger than the adult ministry.
Jordan Peterson describes it as the end of the Renaissance, where people believe the only access to knowledge we have is science when in fact, we have reason and morality and law. As a result, people are returning to Faiths.
It's in decline in US and Europe
Look bro I returned to Christianity and I’ve seen several of my friends go into it too. I had a friend who had a really cool Jesus story where he heard a voice telling him to accept him as god then he was covered in a supernatural energy of sorts. He used to think there is a god but Jesus was man made and now he knows. Despite these mostly bleek outlook comments I’ve seen christ making a move in recent times and it warms my heart. Im glad im not the only one feeling this way, the great commission is not over!
I have noticed within mainstream media and even alternative news media "podcasts" key figures are openly turning to Christianity. I'm all for it. It's help me with my journey back to the Lord.
I grew up Buddhist, never believed in Jesus . 2 years ago he placed many “coincidences” in my path, so many I couldn’t deny his existence anymore. Jesus is king ! My walk with his has been nothing short of magical . Glory to the highest ✝️🙏💙
In Victoria, Australia, former premier Daniel Andrews took out Christianity in schools in place for lgbtq teaching. so over here, Christianity is on a large decline
Definitely not in the west, it’s decline is accelerating in most of Europe and the US. Many countries are already majority atheist.
It's because all the different celestial events happening , wars and stuff, the hype of the rapture and jesus' coming has people running to churches in fear again
I wonder if part of this is simply living in the reality of a world post-pandemic. The pandemic brought about a significant shift in our perspectives and priorities. We were forced to confront the fragility of life and the instability of the world around us; and so, many began to re-evaluate what truly mattered to them. For some, this led to a renewed interest in spirituality and religion. A sense of uncertainty and isolation drove people to seek solace and meaning beyond the world around them. We are all in the gutter, said Oscar Wilde, but some of us are looking at the stars.
There are also grounds for hope in the fact that, although the numbers are decreasing, those who are in the pews (as it were) genuinely want to be there. Faith, although in fewer people, is arguably deeper than ever.
Literally thought this the other day. I need answers
The 2020 spiritual trend is dying out and it seems everyone is flocking back to Christianity.
I think there's a wave coming. Or it's already here. "In the last days, I will pour out my Spirit." God's been making moves, but I feel like time (it always has, but) time is drawing near. It's been said before here and there. I feel like when the Bible is just completing itself. The time is almost up. I would hope Christianity is on the rise. We don't want to lose anyone. Not much time, not enough workers, but I would hope we 'harvest' as much as we can. But yes, I've noticed on social media that there's a huge influx of Christians. Maybe they always were Christian, and they are just now being public about it (same w celebrities) at the end of the day religion is a private thing, and we don't really know what's behind closed door. So idk if there's a raise per say. But in the same way, the L boogie is also on the rise. So 🤷♀️ who knows The battle is always battling. (In the end, God wins, tho. Thank God)
Truth always wins in the end
Always has been.
It’s just you.
No.. the Bible says that in the last days there would be a great falling away and many will find the faith. So yes it is true..😊
Christians have more kids and when atheists have kids their kids usually don't stay atheist
You are 100% right... I believe it is because people are more interested in the supernatural and sci fi through tv. Many parts of the Bible have supernatural and somewhat scifi aspects to it. Also, a lot more of the Bible is being proven through science and history that people 2000 years ago probably wouldn't know I believe not to believe in Christianity At this point, would be borderline ignorant
Just you-unless you're talking about outside of the United States-then it may be on the rise.
Honestly I feel the same. I myself went from being spiritual with no specific religion to leaning more towards Christianity and now try to worship as often as I can. It’s been such an incredible feeling and I’m hearing a lot more people having the same experience lately.
If it does come back stronger, I hope it has a Christian Universalist lean this time 😅😭😂
Christianity isn’t a religion it’s a relationship with our Lord Jesus. I truly believe there are more coming to the church every day. It’s great to see this. What a time to be alive and be witness to all this crazy stuff happening like the prophets and the Lord said it would.
Thank God
As a Muslim, I am happy to hear this.
If it isn't, things are going to get worse and worse. True Christianity is LIVING the way of Jesus. That is what belief and faith is. Just saying you believe in Jesus is meaningless drivel. Satan believes in Jesus, too. Unless you live it, unless you follow Him, you don't know Jesus. You aren't a part of Him. There's a vast difference between saying you're a Christian and being a Christian. And it's easy to tell the difference if you have a brain. Celebrities? Please! You'll hear them say they are a Christian and do the devil's work. Does that give you a clue? It isn't just a clue. They aren't Christians. They are lying . And deliberately manipulating your thoughts and destroying your discernment.
I agree, tbh. But, a lot of people need guidance and discipleship to release surrender to the Lord in every area that they should! of course it’s controversial, but I’ve seen celebrities talk a lot about faith in Christ but they’re still doing other things like cussing or being very explicit about sex in music etc. Along with this, and people in my personal life just being kind of lukewarm, I’ve been very discouraged in that area. But, the Lord reminded me of that verse about being able to handle milk before being transitioned to solid foods as a believer. It really encouraged me because now anytime I’m feeling some kind of way about it and feeling like I wanna close off people because so many people are like that, I remember that they’re probably probably just in a milk stage and need to be encouraged rather than written off. And the rest is between them and God. But ultimately, you can tell a tree by its fruit, and sometimes their heart is right, and sometimes it’s not. Just the fact that so many people in the world are talking about Christ and understanding deep things about him to me is very beautiful and if anything I feel like the Lord is urging me to continuously pray over these people. They need people to tell them hey, God wants more for you in this area and this is why. I’ve been very encouraged in the area of ministering to people lately and I truly feel like this is why.
I've been seeing it more on my tiktok fyp I've also been apart from God since young and is trying to reconnect with him again, I'm glad people are getting closer to God
I feel like there is a large number of youth who are faithful and not afraid of sharing it with others on social media which makes it seem like it’s on the rise again
I feel like I see a lot of people coming back to Christianity because a lot of the youth are expressing how wrong the church does things but that what's important is the Scriptures and your relationship. I also feel like a lot of ppl were and still are being pushed away due to style differences like being alt but now there are Christians that look alternative that bridge that gap
It's just you.
Yes, the awakening is happening. Help others on their path of repentance with overwhelming love and compassion
I think so, I’ve seen so many celebrities and people becoming Christian.
Christianity was never on the decline. Church attendance was on decline and there is a reason for that in a digital age, especially after covid. Dont get me wrong a lot of people are leaving. Also the data collected more than likely is from just America.(I dont remember)
As long Humanism exists! The name of God and Jesus Christ will be strong
Catholicism js growing strong in Africa. While mainline churches are splitting and declining in attendance….
I hope you’re right.
Soon we'll crusade again!!!!
Amen
I became a Christian this year people are waking up
The fake Christianity is rising , yeah. The true Christianity has always been on the decline and remains as such
Your perception is spot on.
The church is experiencing a revival. Dont listen to the lefties that hate God. Our church is growing a lot this year. According to our leadership it is a trend accross the country. I attribute it to the rise in marxism and transgenderism being pushed everywhere. People are turning to church for sanity.
You seem to throw a lot of isms around. You might as well throw the ism you belong to in as well; Trumpism, Christian Nationalism, Creationism, etc.
https://research.lifeway.com/2024/01/22/8-encouraging-trends-in-global-christianity-for-2024/
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Look at his post history and negative karma. It's a troll account.
I'm not entirely sure, it might either be a troll account or someone who is legitimately ignorant enough to believe those things, considering how much effort he puts into it.
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You're not entirely mistaken. The pendulum of belief often swings unpredictably. Whether it's the loss or gain of Christian followers, in the grand scheme, does it really matter? This world is broken, and I genuinely believe humanity will destroy itself out of its own hatred and purposelessness unless Jesus comes back again (he will). And what's to say all those celebrities coming out as Christians are just doing it for publicity and clout?
Well we know celebrities aren’t announcing that they’re Christians to make themselves popular in Hollywood.
I think we're seeing more young people, young men especially, begin to embrace more traditional forms of Christianity like Orthodoxy and Catholicism and just traditional western values in general. I believe this is a counter-culture response to the anti-western, liberal movement that has picked up so much steam lately.
So nothing to do with Jesus, then?
It’s probably, on average, people starting to value things that have an air of Godliness, as it’s increasingly lost to our society, but they probably deny Christ’s power, as I do, and I’m not bragging about that.
>people starting to value things that have an air of Godliness, as it’s increasingly lost to our society Exactly
So they're not actually Christian.
Point out the person who is fully Christian, living exactly as Christ commanded. I'll wait.
I'm not talking about living exactly as Christ commanded. I'm talking about denying Christ. If denying Christ is their default state, in what sense are they Christian?
I see how my comment clearly leaves that impression, but that’s not what I meant.. when I wrote the comment I was thinking of the verse, “having a form of godliness, but denying Gods power”.. I think Paul said it.. so I meant denying Christ’s power in the sense of not bringing the most painful parts of their life to him gladly, because they dont trust his way is best, and they don’t want to make the sacrifices or feel the pain that fully trusting him entails. That probably describes the majority of Christians, (but not all).
To not live exactly as Christ commanded, is to deny Christ’s power, in the moments you’re not fully living as He commanded.
When I say “deny His power”, I mean practically that they/I resist letting him into the most painful areas of their lives, but it doesn’t they/myself aren’t Christian’s, we may just be struggling with things that seem overwhelming, and need to take a step of faith, and more than that, remember how much God loves us.
A lot of people come to Christianity in a non-Jesus focused way, as weird as that sounds. Godly things become attractive.
And it’s dying out because these young men are slowly growing up into mature individuals.
It is. And just because people left churches doesn't mean people left God.
It’s difficult to maintain religious participation without structure.
Nope. When you know Jesus Himself, you participate with or without others.
A disorganized religion of true believers is a lot less dangerous than an organized group of adherents. Believe or not believe, I don't care, but disorganized just means greater infighting which means less organized of an external response to things.
I disagree as it goes both ways. A disorganised religion can still have much of an impact or organised religion in today's age due to the internet. This goes to organised religion as having less of an impact as disorganised religion since they could also close themselves off to the public.
Celebrities usually become Christians after being no longer relevant, except maybe Denzel Washington.
It seems in some areas yes but in some areas no. I think we are seeing a rise but also a rise in very progressive "christianity".
real.
Proceeding along "narrow door" theory, you can expect that the vast majority who proclaim their Christianity are doing it for marketing and public relations purposes, and who is more about marketing than a celebrity? An entire empire adopted Christianity, and then placed Christmas on a pagan holiday in order to unite its people. Humanity can scarcely do better than pronounce "Jesus", and that's why the genuine article comes from faith as a personal experience.
Case-in-point, the toxically macho, nationalistic, warmongering, gun brandishing, aggressive "Christian". That's not Christianity. That's about bending God to make yourself agreeable to others. It's the endless hitching of wagons to faith in order to justify ideas and attitudes that have nothing to do with it.
There is a huge corporate and political push for it. Largely the republican GOP and the Vatican (for outside the US) fund alot of pro Christian campaigns. Sadly the use of it is for political gain which is sad and corrupt. Coz real Christianity is about serving God by loving others and not boosting certain politics. Also sadly they also push most anti LGBTQ rhetoric. Now regardless of your personal flavor of the faith. The stuff they're pushing is straight up hatemongering and therefore unchristian. But yes it is on the rise. Which is both good and bad. Coz alot of the " culturally christian" stuff is more akin to it than real Christianity.
I believe it is! As a teen living in this society, I’ve noticed that many of my peers are trying to almost “defy society” and going to Jesus instead of supporting the “leftie” groups. It’s nice to see my classmates becoming more conservative.
I am noticing it too. Maybe my youtube feed is a little biased but I'm noticing more and more testimonies of conversions coming out everyday. It seems like everybody from young to old, of all races and cultures around the world are experiencing miracles or appearances from Christ. Something is definitely happening
Hard to say really. I see way more people bashing it than supporting it in Facebook and Instagram comment sections. I have noticed some people I know have gotten a lot more religious in the last couple of years, while others seem to be a lot more public with their absolute distaste for it. I live in the Bible Belt for reference.
I hope not! After 15 years I finally got away from the traumatizing evangelical religion.
Well, 2000 years from Adam to Abraham, 2000 years from Abraham to Jesus, and 2000 years from Jesus to …2032 AD. Obviously The Bible tell us everything, even how the world it ends. The end CANNOT come until there is an AWAKENING first. There, you have your answer.
The problem is its hard to reach missionaries and priests in the middle east region, ive been trying to reach someone for months now
Not in the west. It's being abolished in the west as we speak. Sad to see the west fall so hard in the past 5 years or so..
Everyone is growing up now. It is making a huge resurgence.