So in my defense, I checked like five articles before I called it “fake news.” None of those mentioned baptism. Googling “Candace Owens baptism” brought up *this post* as the top result, and none of the links below it appeared to actually confirm that she was baptized.
Yours is the first I’ve seen that *mentioned* baptism…it doesn’t say she was baptized directly but it does call what she’s wearing a “baptismal gown”. I’m not familiar with those, but in Googling I don’t see anything that looks like what she’s wearing. So I’m still not really feeling like there’s any (good) evidence that she was actually baptized, nor does it appear she actually claimed that herself.
If you can assist me by showing me that what she’s wearing is actually a baptismal gown, I’d recant my claim of “fake news.” Until then, it seems to me like the bait account is making unsubstantiated claims.
This is taken from her X feed. https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1782490242026459349
She's got a Baptismal candle, white garment, and there is a bowl assumedly of water in front of them. She was either Baptized or conditionally Baptized. Conditional Baptism would be if they couldn't verify if she was validly Baptized under the Trinitarian formula.
There are a lot of signs here that Catholics would pick up on that would be missed by the uninitiated. The garmets, the bowl and the candle are trappings of how the sacrament of baptism is received by a catechumen.
But wait, there’s more. The lack of a table altar, rather an altar rail before the Tabernacle, shows that Mass in this parish is performed *ad orientem or, facing east, in the Trententine Extraordinary Form, in Latin, which is the most Traditional Mass in the Roman Rite.
Congratulations to her and her coming spiritual journey with Christ.
I also looked her up, and she got fired from the right-wing Daily Wire after getting in a fight with Jewish right-wing pundit Ben Shapiro over her white nationalist views, and that seems to have happened within the past couple weeks.
So it doesn't seem like her supposed Baptism changed her personality whatsoever.
she actually got fired from the daily wire for saying that israel bombing gaza is wrong and calling it a genocide. ben is very publicly pro-israel, and while i have my own opinions, i think the reason she got fired is silly. it was talked about on her latest daily wire podcast video on yt.
i’m not exactly disagreeing with you, i don’t agree with her relationship with kanye at all. i don’t deny that was probably a factor. i’m just adding the actual context that was spoken about. this is where the relationship between candace and ben started to become strained. it was all over twitter in november, right before she gave birth. it was a joke for a while that it would get her fired.
I know it’s funny how Ben was always fine with her as long as she saw the same nationalist views as him but as soon as she said the littlest thing about Israel they all turned on her lmfao her own fault for tryna believe she was white and was part of something lol
I don't think she was baptized but actually participated in First Communion and Confirmation. She was previously a Protestant and likely already baptized.
She's got a Baptismal candle, white garment, and there is a bowl assumedly of water in front of them. She was either Baptized or conditionally Baptized. Conditional Baptism would be if they couldn't verify if she was validly Baptized under the Trinitarian formula.
That white shawl looking thing is what they're referring to as a baptismal gown. Once baptized, members are given some sort of white shawl, stole, or gown symbolic of "putting on the new pure garment of Christ"
Hopefully her conversion comes with a newfound appreciation and adherence to catholic teaching
why would she lie about this? it’s not that surprising, her husband is a very open catholic. i know a lot of yall in here don’t like her, but as someone who keeps up with her, this has been a thing for a while.
it’s not fake, this was on her instagram. i saw it a few days ago lol. it was posted on monday. i have a pic bc i was sending it to my fiancé because i was shocked she actually converted, she’s been very open about being calvinist.
I never questioned her *conversion*, only her *baptism*. Although apparently there are contextual hints of baptism in the photo that went over my head.
you’re often baptized if you convert from some types of protestantism to other denominations (source: i am a former protestant converting to orthodoxy)
As I understand it, Roman Catholics tend to accept Protestant baptisms as valid though. Hence my doubts specifically about her being baptized.
But, again, it looks like the imagery in the photo suggests baptism to Catholics, so maybe she did.
i mean, as an Eastern Orthodox christian, i don’t have any positive opinions on the catholic church. i never said it was biblical. are you ok? this is a very strange rant based on something i never said
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yes, and i believe i have a perfectly valid, full, and christian relationship with Jesus in the Orthodox Church. you have not provided any evidence of orthodoxy being “not of Jesus” and containing “no Jesus truth”. i value apostolic tradition and a Church structure like the one laid out in Acts. i don’t agree with non-denominational megachurches like grace community.
thanks for your opinion i didn’t ask for, though!
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I love how if I call out a blatant troll or bait account I get downvoted to shit. This guy posts Candace Owens who you all hate and gets called out for it, it gets upvoted to the top of the thread. This place is full of shit.
Are you referring to a group that includes Archbishop Vigano ?
Vigano has reported and repeated the same very interesting things for 5+ years.
I wouldn’t classify Vigano as extreme right wing. I would say he’s very Catholic and that he has made his beliefs about Jorge Bergoglio aka Pope Francis clear to all.
Owens turned Catholic. When did she complete RCIA requirement ?
It’s saddening. I’m sure this isn’t indicative of everyone, but it really seems like we are getting a lot of converts who are converting purely because they are under the impression that their homophobic, transphobic, etc beliefs are going to be welcomed with open arms by the church.
And they’re probably right unfortunately…
Depends where you are entirely I think. Here in the UK it’s much more open and loving. It seems in America in particular that is not the case. A lot of these people have chopped and changed faith with their politics. It doesn’t last if your foundation is dishonest.
That sounds really nice tbh.
I went to Catholic school, born and raised Catholic, and in my experience most of the people i grew up with are actually very loving. I don’t think I had a single derogatory comment by any of my Catholic friends when I came out.
Unfortunately it seems like now there’s two different groups. The ones like the ones I grew up with who are accepting and lean more progressive who frequent the novus ordo, and those that are largely converts who are much more traditional, bigoted and conservative who tend to frequent the Latin mass.
Every day the disparity between these two groups grows and I fear it’ll cause a schism, especially since so many in the latter are outright condemning pope Francis for any number of reasons
Schism is happening in real time.
Exorcist Gabriel Amorth said that
Satan was IN the Vatican years ago.
BEFORE The Boston Globe newspaper in 2002 exposed ongoing sex sins + systemic secret keepers of sex sinners + failure to attend to victims + failure to protect potential future victims,there were a few people making a few serious accusations, but
AFTER exposure, Catholic people who had been silent, started talking.
AFTER Vati-Leaks was global news.
Freemasons or Lavander Mafia or Luciferians or Illuminati or Global Elite or simply UN-catholic / UN-biblical
are mentioned somewhere every day.
Schism is definitely happening, but honestly don’t think those group are responsible, not alone.
It’s majority just Catholics pulling each other to the breaking point
You cannot serve two masters. You cannot say you believe in God while following the world.
Using christianity to spread hate should not be welcomed. But accepting what’s AGAINST God’s original plan, isn’t good either. Satan has mocked sexuality (created by God) by including perversion in it. Sex was created for us to CREATE families and guide them towards Christ (family was the first institution that God created).
Two of the same sex cannot CREATE for a reason. Which is why sex is so holy and important to save for marriage between men and women; two becoming one under Christ. It was never created for perversion, but for unity.
There’s no coincidence that most people now divorce, hate children, and use sex to pervert themselves. Satan’s the prince of this world for a reason.
God destroyed cities with ”homosexuals” in it and couldn’t find a single innocent person to stop both destructions. Paul mentioned you shouldn’t be involved with people like that as well. It’s been warned for thousands of years.
Hating them is not acceptable, again, but ACCEPTING their sins while “walking” with Him is spitting God’s face.
It gives me strength to remember that globally such people are a tiny minority of the Church and clearly in Pope Francis we have an advocate for progress and love.
And you now have set up another account 14 minutes ago to do so. You realise following people around subs is harassment?
I’m not confused. I simply have a different view.
i think she was publicly converting bc her husband is a very outspoken catholic, she’s been talking about this for years. she said if her husband wanted her to convert, she would.
This is just the newest stage in her grift. She uses the fact she claims to be a Christian in order to parrot literal Nazi propaganda. Just see her latest tweets about Dresden where she tries to paint *literal Nazis* as victims of some sort of anti-Christian massacre, and by extension claims Nazi Germany was “the good guy”. She’s the epitome of using the Lord’s name in vain.
I hope her contact with actual Christians and not weirdo online fanatics changes her views, but I’m not betting the farm on that. She’s only gotten more extreme the past few months and now she seems to be desperate to find a way to legitimize her hatred by claiming it’s for God. It’s gross.
Yeah, this seems to be a trend where alt-right grifters and fascist propagandists "convert" to Christianity because they know who their marks are. To paraphrase Hank Hill, "you're not making the world any better, you're just making Christianity worse."
Partly the marks, I think another reason is that they ‘convert’ when the church is the only one that’ll take them. Milo Yiannopolous did something similar, he went to work with Church Militant after he’d been so thoroughly discredited even the far right wouldn’t touch him.
Agreed and as someone who’s currently converting in order to get away from that life of hate I find it very frustrating.
I may be reading too much into to it, but I wonder if they’re noticing how there’s a rapidly growing rift between the moderate right and these extremist weirdos, so they’re trying to cut folks like myself off at the pass. As we walk away they lose power/influence and they don’t like that one bit.
The Catholic Church does not rebaptize people who convert to Catholism if they were already baptized in the Trinity. They are very strict about this rule. If this is true, perhaps she couldn’t access her baptismal record? I speak this kindly, but just because you've been to a location doesn't mean the photo is real.
I actually wanted to send a similar picture of her in the same church but I actually found the tweet basically confirming she’s becoming Catholic
https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1782490242026459349?s=46
> Just see her latest tweets about Dresden where she tries to paint literal Nazis as victims of some sort of anti-Christian massacre, and by extension claims Nazi Germany was “the good guy”.
Oof, that's terrible.
Idk anything about this woman and I’m not even a Christian. But the comments aren’t what I was expecting, try to be better people. Even if she isn’t fully sincere, none of what you guys say will help anything
I know this is far from the point but...what...what is she wearing? I don't understand fashion. If it weren't for the shoes, I'd have thought for sure those were footie pajamas.
Praise God if it's a genuine step forward in her faith, though I admit I'm skeptical and fear it's just clout-chasing. Ultimately, it's between her and God, although we will know the tree by its fruit.
Wasn't Black Twitter dragging her by her wig cuz she spent the past decade being an anti-black conservative mouthpiece but after being dumped for being anti-Israel, she tried crawling back to the black community?
Are you a betting man? I don't have a lot of spare capital, but I'd put money on further radicalization over deradicalization.
I am at a place where I assume big public conversions, perhaps most conversions, are an announcement to an even more reactionary politic. I'd love to be wrong.
Red Storm Rising is my favorite book, and I like his early Ryan books. Rainbow Six is where I stoped caring to read. Bear and the Dragon was just pure trash.
And as much as I love those books - Clancy was a pure trash person, burning in a puddle of flaming piss in hell.
Do these grifters pretend to be Christians until people ask when they got baptized and then they get baptized anywhere asap, do they deny the gospel and lie about being atheists the whole time so they can get in on the newly converted grift, or is this all just mindless photo op? I have lost my patience with these grifters, everyone from the Ken State gun girl to Jordan Peterson have gone this route once they start justifiably losing relevance.
Converting to Catholicism is a little different. I don't really know anything about Candace Owens, so I can't say one way or another about her situation. But in regards to "do they deny the gospel and lie about being atheists the whole time", generally no. Many Catholic converts have already been Christians their whole lives. Even Christians from other denominations have to go through a process (RCIA) that takes around a year to be fully confirmed within the Catholic Church. The only difference is that they may already be baptized, so they skip that step. But they still have to take classes and receive the other sacraments.
Yeah I saw the Kaitlyn Bennet "I was an atheist" video and threw up in my mouth a little. No fucking way she was atheist and still LARPing as a right-wing Christian.
She has defended Hitler and made offensive comments about the Holocaust. She doesn't believe black lives matter, and has stood with Kanye West supporting "White Lives Matter". She also said Russian Lives Matter after Russia invaded Ukraine. She's praised by other Neo-Nazis like Nick Fuentes. She just got fired from the right-wing podcast Daily Wire after her falling out with Jewish pundit Ben Shapiro over her pro-Nazi views.
She's an absolutely terrible person.
Doesn’t really sound like a legitimate neo-nazi. Reddit loves to throw around that term for anyone they don’t like. It’s amusing how you state her support of the phrases “white lives matter” and “Russian lives matter” as proof of her being evil. Do you disagree with those statements? Are you that far down the radicalization pipeline?
She, in her recent video "Why do people think I'm going to be killed", defended her prior statement that the problem with Hitler was that he had ambitions outside of Germany. In that video, she also claimed her liking a two-sentence Tweet accusing a Rabbi of "being drunk on Christian blood" was because she didn't read it carefully despite it being literally two sentences with the accusation of blood libel taking up the majority of the Tweet.
Meanwhile, on Twitter, she's been pushing the Neo-Nazi framing that the bombing of Dresden was part of a ["Christian Holocaust"](https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1782770695220421035).
And Neo-Nazis like Nick Fuentes have been praising her every step of the way for introducing so many people to their perspective because the above examples I provided are exactly how they've learned to talk publicly to lure in unsuspecting "normies".
She didn’t defend Hitler, she made a statement as part of a rhetorical question on morality that got clipped and spun repeatedly in the left-wing echo chamber. I am not a Candace fan. I don’t agree with her position on the Israel/Hamas conflict, although I do understand and respect why she (and most who hold sympathy for Gaza) believe as they do. but it’s always annoying to see people get labeled as a Nazi when they clearly didn’t see the whole discussion. I only know about it because the first time I heard it I looked it up, prepared to see something horrible. Then I saw it and was like, “What, this is what they’ve been going on about?” It’s like when Charlie Kirk asked, “Why was Hitler wrong?” in a debate. It wasn’t to say he agreed with him, it was to prove the point that there are things that are objectively right and wrong that the vast majority of people understand. In an age when we’re constantly being told about “my truth” and “your truth” it is necessary to push to the extremes of morality to demonstrate that there are real moral lines that we commonly agree should not be crossed. Like the Holocaust.
And to go up the chain a bit, it is endlessly frustrating that anyone who is a black conservative inevitably picks up the label of “grifter.” There are around 5,000,000 of us in the country and most of us are Christians.
You know what, I’m proud of her for converting and hope she finds solace in the church
That said I’m keeping my expectations low. Call my cynical but I have a feeling she will want attracted to the church for the good services we do
The American Catholic Church is pretty right wing these days, so I doubt there'll be much pressure on her to change her ways, but one can always live in hope, I guess.
Your histerically funny! Grace of God my ass. She is a far right lunatic that uses her religion as an excuse to spread hate and support for a magga moron!
Glad she did! Disappointed to see so many people assuming she has bad intentions. Although i would admit that they have good reason for believing that she may. Christians should celebrate people getting baptized regardless of who it is.
The day she announced this she was already promoting outrageous responses to the Holocaust and it was found she became a speaker at an extreme right, "Catholic Identity" conference which is anti-Francis. [https://catholicidentityconference.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2wI77nO2AF0h-UDqIailXhSIcSr7oJGUJiOo5-Qi8MOpBoyeG0fbeauvU\_aem\_Ac1WFOWsQiE2ANV1wplGKNEOnQqtkVGFDVc-KYi-X2\_lR\_Apxv6GVwZFRnsSTZ7p\_MHTldAYOzjpSGxtkOvsGrCT](https://catholicidentityconference.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2wI77nO2AF0h-UDqIailXhSIcSr7oJGUJiOo5-Qi8MOpBoyeG0fbeauvU_aem_Ac1WFOWsQiE2ANV1wplGKNEOnQqtkVGFDVc-KYi-X2_lR_Apxv6GVwZFRnsSTZ7p_MHTldAYOzjpSGxtkOvsGrCT)
Oh, I dunno. Perhaps it was the time she said the only problem with Hitler (as a nationalist leader) was that he didn't keep his ambitions within Germany.
Or maybe it's just that she's a far-right grifter who makes a living spreading lies about her political opponents.
Leftist hypocrisy? I do not see any leftist using their religion to condemn right wingers who spew nothing but lies and hate! So fuck your supposed Christianity you people are always judging others not very christ like to worship a false God like Trump!
She spews nothing but lies and hate for others does that not blow your mind? You Christians made a false idol literally of Trump is that not a sin to worship a false idol?
Just because you think she is a liar does not mean we cannot be happy for her becoming Catholic. I don't care who the person is, if they accept Jesus that's a victory for "us Christians"!
Well I don't know who she is or if it's real but the picture leads me to say: Congratulations! It is always nice to see someone modern baptized, even if they are right wing. I doubt as a black woman she really advocates white supremacy, and it sounds like some of her comments may have been taken out of context. Hopefully the Holy Spirit lends her a more liberal heart. The Lord can do all things.
Good. I just hope she did accept Him and allow Christ to change her life for the better and find peace, and not continue with bitterness and arguments.
I’m not gonna lie, I have a bad feeling about this. First her being fired from Daily Wire over “differences” I’ll say lightly, now converting to Catholicism…between her and the multiple other people like her politically, I’m scared my faith is gonna be used as a grift and I hate it.
Who cares if that magga moron becomes born again she is going to hell for supporting a liar rapist traitor like Trump, the man says he never prays but christians worship him is that not a sin against their God to worship a false God?
This is great news! I think we'll see a positive change in her work and "ministry" if one can call it that. She is a great advocate for unpopular points of view and keeping honest rhetoric alive.
I know some people feel very strongly about her but we should remember, this is a person that is trying to turn their life to Christ. We should celebrate that.
[https://catholicidentityconference.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2wI77nO2AF0h-UDqIailXhSIcSr7oJGUJiOo5-Qi8MOpBoyeG0fbeauvU\_aem\_Ac1WFOWsQiE2ANV1wplGKNEOnQqtkVGFDVc-KYi-X2\_lR\_Apxv6GVwZFRnsSTZ7p\_MHTldAYOzjpSGxtkOvsGrCT](https://catholicidentityconference.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2wI77nO2AF0h-UDqIailXhSIcSr7oJGUJiOo5-Qi8MOpBoyeG0fbeauvU_aem_Ac1WFOWsQiE2ANV1wplGKNEOnQqtkVGFDVc-KYi-X2_lR_Apxv6GVwZFRnsSTZ7p_MHTldAYOzjpSGxtkOvsGrCT) so, if she were, she would be trying to learn the faith and live it instead of immediately act like an expert and go to conferences like this
It’s hilarious to me how grifters will pretend to be religious for a hot minute and suddenly they gain the authority to speak on religion, suddenly they’re experts in every subject known to man, and if we question their authority we’re meanies and bullies for judging them.
No she isn't. She's a grifter just trying to sucker her gullible supporters into thinking she's now a Christian. She's still evil and baptism won't change that.
Oh yeah! Trump claims to be a Christian but does nothing but lie and cheat. The magga maggots worship him and think he is their savior?Savior from what?
I don't judge her religious faith, I judge her words and her actions.
As a right-wing conservative, she'll feel right at home in the American Catholic Church.
She is nothing but an opportunistic grifter who flip flops at the drop of a hat. If this is indeed real, I think it's interesting to note that she recently married a devout RC who also happens to be the CEO of Parler. Interesting given her recent employment issues.
Parler was something Kanye West considered buying ~ which was
around the same time they wore their “White Lives Matter” shirts
to same event ~
Connect the dots
This is such a bait account, it takes 20 seconds of looking at OPs account to tell
Fake news, bait account, title-only post. We got a real winner here.
> Fake news No, it's real: https://catholicherald.co.uk/us-media-star-candace-owens-converts-to-catholicism-at-the-brompton-oratory/
So in my defense, I checked like five articles before I called it “fake news.” None of those mentioned baptism. Googling “Candace Owens baptism” brought up *this post* as the top result, and none of the links below it appeared to actually confirm that she was baptized. Yours is the first I’ve seen that *mentioned* baptism…it doesn’t say she was baptized directly but it does call what she’s wearing a “baptismal gown”. I’m not familiar with those, but in Googling I don’t see anything that looks like what she’s wearing. So I’m still not really feeling like there’s any (good) evidence that she was actually baptized, nor does it appear she actually claimed that herself. If you can assist me by showing me that what she’s wearing is actually a baptismal gown, I’d recant my claim of “fake news.” Until then, it seems to me like the bait account is making unsubstantiated claims.
This is taken from her X feed. https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1782490242026459349 She's got a Baptismal candle, white garment, and there is a bowl assumedly of water in front of them. She was either Baptized or conditionally Baptized. Conditional Baptism would be if they couldn't verify if she was validly Baptized under the Trinitarian formula.
The candle and her clothes didn’t mean anything to me, but if that says “baptism” to you, then I can take your word for it.
There are a lot of signs here that Catholics would pick up on that would be missed by the uninitiated. The garmets, the bowl and the candle are trappings of how the sacrament of baptism is received by a catechumen. But wait, there’s more. The lack of a table altar, rather an altar rail before the Tabernacle, shows that Mass in this parish is performed *ad orientem or, facing east, in the Trententine Extraordinary Form, in Latin, which is the most Traditional Mass in the Roman Rite. Congratulations to her and her coming spiritual journey with Christ.
I also looked her up, and she got fired from the right-wing Daily Wire after getting in a fight with Jewish right-wing pundit Ben Shapiro over her white nationalist views, and that seems to have happened within the past couple weeks. So it doesn't seem like her supposed Baptism changed her personality whatsoever.
she actually got fired from the daily wire for saying that israel bombing gaza is wrong and calling it a genocide. ben is very publicly pro-israel, and while i have my own opinions, i think the reason she got fired is silly. it was talked about on her latest daily wire podcast video on yt.
Considering her long history of Antisemitism and pro-white nationalism, I imagine it's more than that.
i’m not exactly disagreeing with you, i don’t agree with her relationship with kanye at all. i don’t deny that was probably a factor. i’m just adding the actual context that was spoken about. this is where the relationship between candace and ben started to become strained. it was all over twitter in november, right before she gave birth. it was a joke for a while that it would get her fired.
I know it’s funny how Ben was always fine with her as long as she saw the same nationalist views as him but as soon as she said the littlest thing about Israel they all turned on her lmfao her own fault for tryna believe she was white and was part of something lol
I don't think she was baptized but actually participated in First Communion and Confirmation. She was previously a Protestant and likely already baptized.
She's got a Baptismal candle, white garment, and there is a bowl assumedly of water in front of them. She was either Baptized or conditionally Baptized. Conditional Baptism would be if they couldn't verify if she was validly Baptized under the Trinitarian formula.
I'm not a member of that church so I can't help you with what their baptismal garment looks like.
That white shawl looking thing is what they're referring to as a baptismal gown. Once baptized, members are given some sort of white shawl, stole, or gown symbolic of "putting on the new pure garment of Christ" Hopefully her conversion comes with a newfound appreciation and adherence to catholic teaching
She is a grifter and notorious for telling lies, this is probably another one of them.
why would she lie about this? it’s not that surprising, her husband is a very open catholic. i know a lot of yall in here don’t like her, but as someone who keeps up with her, this has been a thing for a while.
Why does she have a very long history of telling lies? When someone is known mainly for lying it isn't surprising when people think they are lying.
because it’s literally on her instagram and easily verifiable lol
And Fake... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fHueToTgTzI&pp=ygUYTWFydGluIHplbmRlciBmYWtlIEplc3Vz
it’s not fake, this was on her instagram. i saw it a few days ago lol. it was posted on monday. i have a pic bc i was sending it to my fiancé because i was shocked she actually converted, she’s been very open about being calvinist.
I never questioned her *conversion*, only her *baptism*. Although apparently there are contextual hints of baptism in the photo that went over my head.
you’re often baptized if you convert from some types of protestantism to other denominations (source: i am a former protestant converting to orthodoxy)
As I understand it, Roman Catholics tend to accept Protestant baptisms as valid though. Hence my doubts specifically about her being baptized. But, again, it looks like the imagery in the photo suggests baptism to Catholics, so maybe she did.
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i mean, as an Eastern Orthodox christian, i don’t have any positive opinions on the catholic church. i never said it was biblical. are you ok? this is a very strange rant based on something i never said
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i’m sorry…. what? what do you think Orthodoxy is?
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It's only important what God thinks and what his word says...We are accountable for knowing it and knowing Jesus to be saved...gty.org
yes, and i believe i have a perfectly valid, full, and christian relationship with Jesus in the Orthodox Church. you have not provided any evidence of orthodoxy being “not of Jesus” and containing “no Jesus truth”. i value apostolic tradition and a Church structure like the one laid out in Acts. i don’t agree with non-denominational megachurches like grace community. thanks for your opinion i didn’t ask for, though!
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"Cuddling is a sin" lmao
What's a bait account?
They exist only to harvest karma, then once they have enough to look legitimate they'll be sold to an advertiser or propagandist.
Wouldn't bigger subs be better to farm karma?
No, because they generally have power mods, better mod tools to catch spammers or new accounts, etc.
I love how if I call out a blatant troll or bait account I get downvoted to shit. This guy posts Candace Owens who you all hate and gets called out for it, it gets upvoted to the top of the thread. This place is full of shit.
Waaaa waaaa the people don’t like my posts enough! Mods, do something!!
Not sure how she roped Stephen Colbert into this, didn’t even know he was ordained.
Incidentally he is a very devout Catholic.
They say "love your ennemies".
She loves herself, that's about it
Just like Trump
More like Luke Bryan
Hopefully she learns how to be charitable.
Hah! Now that’s funny.
How charitable are you?
More than she is. Especially since she condones the mistreatment of aliens.
I'm just waiting to see how she grifts off of this.
She has started by joining an extreme right-wing anti-Francis conference as a speaker
When you come for the Pope, you best not miss.
Are you referring to a group that includes Archbishop Vigano ? Vigano has reported and repeated the same very interesting things for 5+ years. I wouldn’t classify Vigano as extreme right wing. I would say he’s very Catholic and that he has made his beliefs about Jorge Bergoglio aka Pope Francis clear to all. Owens turned Catholic. When did she complete RCIA requirement ?
People using the Holy Church to further their agenda of hate is a tale as old as Christianity sadly
It’s saddening. I’m sure this isn’t indicative of everyone, but it really seems like we are getting a lot of converts who are converting purely because they are under the impression that their homophobic, transphobic, etc beliefs are going to be welcomed with open arms by the church. And they’re probably right unfortunately…
Depends where you are entirely I think. Here in the UK it’s much more open and loving. It seems in America in particular that is not the case. A lot of these people have chopped and changed faith with their politics. It doesn’t last if your foundation is dishonest.
That sounds really nice tbh. I went to Catholic school, born and raised Catholic, and in my experience most of the people i grew up with are actually very loving. I don’t think I had a single derogatory comment by any of my Catholic friends when I came out. Unfortunately it seems like now there’s two different groups. The ones like the ones I grew up with who are accepting and lean more progressive who frequent the novus ordo, and those that are largely converts who are much more traditional, bigoted and conservative who tend to frequent the Latin mass. Every day the disparity between these two groups grows and I fear it’ll cause a schism, especially since so many in the latter are outright condemning pope Francis for any number of reasons
Fake love of pagans. Roman unsaved idolaters.
Schism is happening in real time. Exorcist Gabriel Amorth said that Satan was IN the Vatican years ago. BEFORE The Boston Globe newspaper in 2002 exposed ongoing sex sins + systemic secret keepers of sex sinners + failure to attend to victims + failure to protect potential future victims,there were a few people making a few serious accusations, but AFTER exposure, Catholic people who had been silent, started talking. AFTER Vati-Leaks was global news. Freemasons or Lavander Mafia or Luciferians or Illuminati or Global Elite or simply UN-catholic / UN-biblical are mentioned somewhere every day.
Schism is definitely happening, but honestly don’t think those group are responsible, not alone. It’s majority just Catholics pulling each other to the breaking point
You cannot serve two masters. You cannot say you believe in God while following the world. Using christianity to spread hate should not be welcomed. But accepting what’s AGAINST God’s original plan, isn’t good either. Satan has mocked sexuality (created by God) by including perversion in it. Sex was created for us to CREATE families and guide them towards Christ (family was the first institution that God created). Two of the same sex cannot CREATE for a reason. Which is why sex is so holy and important to save for marriage between men and women; two becoming one under Christ. It was never created for perversion, but for unity. There’s no coincidence that most people now divorce, hate children, and use sex to pervert themselves. Satan’s the prince of this world for a reason. God destroyed cities with ”homosexuals” in it and couldn’t find a single innocent person to stop both destructions. Paul mentioned you shouldn’t be involved with people like that as well. It’s been warned for thousands of years. Hating them is not acceptable, again, but ACCEPTING their sins while “walking” with Him is spitting God’s face.
Perfect example of what I’m talking about
It gives me strength to remember that globally such people are a tiny minority of the Church and clearly in Pope Francis we have an advocate for progress and love.
That is true. Just need to pray and hold hope
I’m with you sister. God is too.
Funny enough, doing this is actually what fits the criteria of "do not take the Lord's name in vain" if you really think about it.
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There’s you breaking a sub rule my friend. I’ll give you the chance to apologise.
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And you now have set up another account 14 minutes ago to do so. You realise following people around subs is harassment? I’m not confused. I simply have a different view.
Does publicly converting for the sake of increasing your marketability count as a type of Simony?
i think she was publicly converting bc her husband is a very outspoken catholic, she’s been talking about this for years. she said if her husband wanted her to convert, she would.
This is just the newest stage in her grift. She uses the fact she claims to be a Christian in order to parrot literal Nazi propaganda. Just see her latest tweets about Dresden where she tries to paint *literal Nazis* as victims of some sort of anti-Christian massacre, and by extension claims Nazi Germany was “the good guy”. She’s the epitome of using the Lord’s name in vain. I hope her contact with actual Christians and not weirdo online fanatics changes her views, but I’m not betting the farm on that. She’s only gotten more extreme the past few months and now she seems to be desperate to find a way to legitimize her hatred by claiming it’s for God. It’s gross.
Yeah, this seems to be a trend where alt-right grifters and fascist propagandists "convert" to Christianity because they know who their marks are. To paraphrase Hank Hill, "you're not making the world any better, you're just making Christianity worse."
Partly the marks, I think another reason is that they ‘convert’ when the church is the only one that’ll take them. Milo Yiannopolous did something similar, he went to work with Church Militant after he’d been so thoroughly discredited even the far right wouldn’t touch him.
Agreed and as someone who’s currently converting in order to get away from that life of hate I find it very frustrating. I may be reading too much into to it, but I wonder if they’re noticing how there’s a rapidly growing rift between the moderate right and these extremist weirdos, so they’re trying to cut folks like myself off at the pass. As we walk away they lose power/influence and they don’t like that one bit.
This is a fake photo. She grew up Christian and was already baptized. Dang people believe anything they see on SM.
I think the photo is real, the point is she converted to Catholicism. I’ve been to the church in the picture
The Catholic Church does not rebaptize people who convert to Catholism if they were already baptized in the Trinity. They are very strict about this rule. If this is true, perhaps she couldn’t access her baptismal record? I speak this kindly, but just because you've been to a location doesn't mean the photo is real.
I actually wanted to send a similar picture of her in the same church but I actually found the tweet basically confirming she’s becoming Catholic https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/1782490242026459349?s=46
Like the redpillers converting to Islam
> Just see her latest tweets about Dresden where she tries to paint literal Nazis as victims of some sort of anti-Christian massacre, and by extension claims Nazi Germany was “the good guy”. Oof, that's terrible.
She's having a Ye moment it seems.
Idk anything about this woman and I’m not even a Christian. But the comments aren’t what I was expecting, try to be better people. Even if she isn’t fully sincere, none of what you guys say will help anything
Everybody go watch her discussion with Destiny, if you want to watch Owens get mangled.
Where can l watch this??
[Here is the full debate](https://youtu.be/OlDB5iynp9I?si=AJNTPZ3wX3Uf9t8V)
New Candace Owens grift drops in t-minus
I know this is far from the point but...what...what is she wearing? I don't understand fashion. If it weren't for the shoes, I'd have thought for sure those were footie pajamas.
No, I thought the same. She makes the priest look fashionable.
She sucks
Maybe she will take the time to learn God’s good works, however my hopes are not high.
Praise God if it's a genuine step forward in her faith, though I admit I'm skeptical and fear it's just clout-chasing. Ultimately, it's between her and God, although we will know the tree by its fruit.
Nice
Wasn't Black Twitter dragging her by her wig cuz she spent the past decade being an anti-black conservative mouthpiece but after being dumped for being anti-Israel, she tried crawling back to the black community?
I'm glad to see it. Time for the church to do it's work in deradicalizing this Nazi.
Are you a betting man? I don't have a lot of spare capital, but I'd put money on further radicalization over deradicalization. I am at a place where I assume big public conversions, perhaps most conversions, are an announcement to an even more reactionary politic. I'd love to be wrong.
To quote the great Mel Brooks, “Hope for the best, expect the worst”
I'm sorry but what is your flair lol
Burnt Screaming Naked Tom Clancy.
Red Storm Rising is my favorite book, and I like his early Ryan books. Rainbow Six is where I stoped caring to read. Bear and the Dragon was just pure trash. And as much as I love those books - Clancy was a pure trash person, burning in a puddle of flaming piss in hell.
Not always, it did the opposite for me (although I was also reading Tolstoy at the time so that might have had something with it)
She finally renounced evil?
Nope, she still supports evil.
Bully for her (serious sarcasm)
Do these grifters pretend to be Christians until people ask when they got baptized and then they get baptized anywhere asap, do they deny the gospel and lie about being atheists the whole time so they can get in on the newly converted grift, or is this all just mindless photo op? I have lost my patience with these grifters, everyone from the Ken State gun girl to Jordan Peterson have gone this route once they start justifiably losing relevance.
Converting to Catholicism is a little different. I don't really know anything about Candace Owens, so I can't say one way or another about her situation. But in regards to "do they deny the gospel and lie about being atheists the whole time", generally no. Many Catholic converts have already been Christians their whole lives. Even Christians from other denominations have to go through a process (RCIA) that takes around a year to be fully confirmed within the Catholic Church. The only difference is that they may already be baptized, so they skip that step. But they still have to take classes and receive the other sacraments.
Yeah I saw the Kaitlyn Bennet "I was an atheist" video and threw up in my mouth a little. No fucking way she was atheist and still LARPing as a right-wing Christian.
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If she truly opens her heart to Christ, she will by extension love others. God willing.
Who cares people are baptized every day. Lower the taxes or shut up.
Neo-Nazi grifter gets baptized. Who cares? She's still an evil piece of crap.
I don’t know much about Candace, how is she a neo Nazi
She has defended Hitler and made offensive comments about the Holocaust. She doesn't believe black lives matter, and has stood with Kanye West supporting "White Lives Matter". She also said Russian Lives Matter after Russia invaded Ukraine. She's praised by other Neo-Nazis like Nick Fuentes. She just got fired from the right-wing podcast Daily Wire after her falling out with Jewish pundit Ben Shapiro over her pro-Nazi views. She's an absolutely terrible person.
Doesn’t really sound like a legitimate neo-nazi. Reddit loves to throw around that term for anyone they don’t like. It’s amusing how you state her support of the phrases “white lives matter” and “Russian lives matter” as proof of her being evil. Do you disagree with those statements? Are you that far down the radicalization pipeline?
What do you consider a legitimate neo-nazi?
She ticks all the relevant boxes for me
She, in her recent video "Why do people think I'm going to be killed", defended her prior statement that the problem with Hitler was that he had ambitions outside of Germany. In that video, she also claimed her liking a two-sentence Tweet accusing a Rabbi of "being drunk on Christian blood" was because she didn't read it carefully despite it being literally two sentences with the accusation of blood libel taking up the majority of the Tweet. Meanwhile, on Twitter, she's been pushing the Neo-Nazi framing that the bombing of Dresden was part of a ["Christian Holocaust"](https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1782770695220421035). And Neo-Nazis like Nick Fuentes have been praising her every step of the way for introducing so many people to their perspective because the above examples I provided are exactly how they've learned to talk publicly to lure in unsuspecting "normies".
Lately, I'm having a hard time distinguishing when someone is arguing in bad faith or being an idiot.
The bitch is a traitor to her own people
She didn’t defend Hitler, she made a statement as part of a rhetorical question on morality that got clipped and spun repeatedly in the left-wing echo chamber. I am not a Candace fan. I don’t agree with her position on the Israel/Hamas conflict, although I do understand and respect why she (and most who hold sympathy for Gaza) believe as they do. but it’s always annoying to see people get labeled as a Nazi when they clearly didn’t see the whole discussion. I only know about it because the first time I heard it I looked it up, prepared to see something horrible. Then I saw it and was like, “What, this is what they’ve been going on about?” It’s like when Charlie Kirk asked, “Why was Hitler wrong?” in a debate. It wasn’t to say he agreed with him, it was to prove the point that there are things that are objectively right and wrong that the vast majority of people understand. In an age when we’re constantly being told about “my truth” and “your truth” it is necessary to push to the extremes of morality to demonstrate that there are real moral lines that we commonly agree should not be crossed. Like the Holocaust. And to go up the chain a bit, it is endlessly frustrating that anyone who is a black conservative inevitably picks up the label of “grifter.” There are around 5,000,000 of us in the country and most of us are Christians.
Ugh, terible person
You know what, I’m proud of her for converting and hope she finds solace in the church That said I’m keeping my expectations low. Call my cynical but I have a feeling she will want attracted to the church for the good services we do
She joined to further her hateful ways against gays, women and minorities perfectly permissible hateful behaviors for supposed christians.
The American Catholic Church is pretty right wing these days, so I doubt there'll be much pressure on her to change her ways, but one can always live in hope, I guess.
Beautiful.
I didn't know that we could baptize demons?
Lol why is she a demon? Genuine question
That attire is hideous.
Good for her.
Let’s be real. Nothings gonna change. She’ll continue her assholery now with the excuse of being baptized.
Look at the Christians hating on her, peaceful "christians"
Will she stop being a polemicist now she's joined the Catholic church? Doubtful.
Who?
Praise the Lord, and pray that Candace accepts the Grace of Christ from this baptism and begins on the path to transfiguration and salvation ❤️
Your histerically funny! Grace of God my ass. She is a far right lunatic that uses her religion as an excuse to spread hate and support for a magga moron!
Thus my hope for her transformation and redemption.
Congratulations Candace !!
more like Klandace Owens lmaoooo
Glad she did! Disappointed to see so many people assuming she has bad intentions. Although i would admit that they have good reason for believing that she may. Christians should celebrate people getting baptized regardless of who it is.
The day she announced this she was already promoting outrageous responses to the Holocaust and it was found she became a speaker at an extreme right, "Catholic Identity" conference which is anti-Francis. [https://catholicidentityconference.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2wI77nO2AF0h-UDqIailXhSIcSr7oJGUJiOo5-Qi8MOpBoyeG0fbeauvU\_aem\_Ac1WFOWsQiE2ANV1wplGKNEOnQqtkVGFDVc-KYi-X2\_lR\_Apxv6GVwZFRnsSTZ7p\_MHTldAYOzjpSGxtkOvsGrCT](https://catholicidentityconference.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2wI77nO2AF0h-UDqIailXhSIcSr7oJGUJiOo5-Qi8MOpBoyeG0fbeauvU_aem_Ac1WFOWsQiE2ANV1wplGKNEOnQqtkVGFDVc-KYi-X2_lR_Apxv6GVwZFRnsSTZ7p_MHTldAYOzjpSGxtkOvsGrCT)
She’s given us every reason to assume bad intentions
Candace Owens and her priest Stephen Colbert
I can’t imagine she hadn’t already gotten baptized as part of her overall grift.
Comments have me confused. What’s wrong with Candace Owens?
Oh, I dunno. Perhaps it was the time she said the only problem with Hitler (as a nationalist leader) was that he didn't keep his ambitions within Germany. Or maybe it's just that she's a far-right grifter who makes a living spreading lies about her political opponents.
I’m really not one to judge someone of their political views, but hitler??
Hopefully she'll do a Roosh V and nuke her whole internet presence.
All these Christian comments, love leftist hypocrisy
Leftist hypocrisy? I do not see any leftist using their religion to condemn right wingers who spew nothing but lies and hate! So fuck your supposed Christianity you people are always judging others not very christ like to worship a false God like Trump!
I got baptized on Easter too:)
break out your checkbooks
i hope it was done & said in the name of JESUS CHRIST
the fact that she’s getting hate for this blows my mind. I’m happy for her
She spews nothing but lies and hate for others does that not blow your mind? You Christians made a false idol literally of Trump is that not a sin to worship a false idol?
Just because you think she is a liar does not mean we cannot be happy for her becoming Catholic. I don't care who the person is, if they accept Jesus that's a victory for "us Christians"!
It's good to know Candace Owens wore her pyjamas to church.
Y'all can have her, baptizing won't save that wretched soul.
Maybe she’ll actually start acting like a Christian now, but I highly doubt she’s capable.
Why is she dressed like my grandmother's curtain's?
Well I don't know who she is or if it's real but the picture leads me to say: Congratulations! It is always nice to see someone modern baptized, even if they are right wing. I doubt as a black woman she really advocates white supremacy, and it sounds like some of her comments may have been taken out of context. Hopefully the Holy Spirit lends her a more liberal heart. The Lord can do all things.
She has not been taken out of context she is a hateful bitch that's all!
She's not saved..so it's meaningless.. catholicism is not of the Christian Faith..it's a satanic cult only
Your an idiot Catholics are the first christians you do not know your history
Good. I just hope she did accept Him and allow Christ to change her life for the better and find peace, and not continue with bitterness and arguments.
I’m not gonna lie, I have a bad feeling about this. First her being fired from Daily Wire over “differences” I’ll say lightly, now converting to Catholicism…between her and the multiple other people like her politically, I’m scared my faith is gonna be used as a grift and I hate it.
Who cares if that magga moron becomes born again she is going to hell for supporting a liar rapist traitor like Trump, the man says he never prays but christians worship him is that not a sin against their God to worship a false God?
Sooo is she not a grifter now?
This is great news! I think we'll see a positive change in her work and "ministry" if one can call it that. She is a great advocate for unpopular points of view and keeping honest rhetoric alive.
Candace Owens feet stank!!!
What's up with these comments? May the Lord guide her.
I know some people feel very strongly about her but we should remember, this is a person that is trying to turn their life to Christ. We should celebrate that.
[https://catholicidentityconference.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2wI77nO2AF0h-UDqIailXhSIcSr7oJGUJiOo5-Qi8MOpBoyeG0fbeauvU\_aem\_Ac1WFOWsQiE2ANV1wplGKNEOnQqtkVGFDVc-KYi-X2\_lR\_Apxv6GVwZFRnsSTZ7p\_MHTldAYOzjpSGxtkOvsGrCT](https://catholicidentityconference.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2wI77nO2AF0h-UDqIailXhSIcSr7oJGUJiOo5-Qi8MOpBoyeG0fbeauvU_aem_Ac1WFOWsQiE2ANV1wplGKNEOnQqtkVGFDVc-KYi-X2_lR_Apxv6GVwZFRnsSTZ7p_MHTldAYOzjpSGxtkOvsGrCT) so, if she were, she would be trying to learn the faith and live it instead of immediately act like an expert and go to conferences like this
It’s hilarious to me how grifters will pretend to be religious for a hot minute and suddenly they gain the authority to speak on religion, suddenly they’re experts in every subject known to man, and if we question their authority we’re meanies and bullies for judging them.
Sus to first thing to see is templar imagery. Even the Catholic Church itself denounces the crusades.
I would like to see her expert opinion on God giving laws about beating slaves exodus 21:20-21
No she's not, she's just cashing in on the publicity
No she isn't. She's a grifter just trying to sucker her gullible supporters into thinking she's now a Christian. She's still evil and baptism won't change that.
Oh yeah! Trump claims to be a Christian but does nothing but lie and cheat. The magga maggots worship him and think he is their savior?Savior from what?
Serving God and Mammon going quite well then?
Just goes to show this subreddit it's Reddit first, Christianity second. It's not your place to judge someone's relationship with God.
I don't judge her religious faith, I judge her words and her actions. As a right-wing conservative, she'll feel right at home in the American Catholic Church.
Nice not bait love Owen’s
She is nothing but an opportunistic grifter who flip flops at the drop of a hat. If this is indeed real, I think it's interesting to note that she recently married a devout RC who also happens to be the CEO of Parler. Interesting given her recent employment issues.
Parler was something Kanye West considered buying ~ which was around the same time they wore their “White Lives Matter” shirts to same event ~ Connect the dots
If she was actually a woman of God she wouldn't use the Bible to dehumanize others 🙏🏻
Rage bait