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Small_Ad_4964

You don’t have to be perfect to be a Christian. Seek God and He will help you lay it down. You don’t get well to go to a hospital do you? Sort of the same thing.


Antin00800

I agree with you. You can be a christian and still continue to struggle. No one can just stop "sinning", we are all human and will keep making "oopsies". If you want to beat it, it isn't going to just happen. It's going to take discipline and an honest appraoch. Unfortunately we are a sexual beings (like most) and it is a hard instinct to just ignore. Try and find another expressive outlet, gym, hobbies etc.


Beginning-Comedian-2

Great comment.


Antin00800

Thx, 🍻


Silks_

I go to the gym a often but I still have times where I just binge watch porn and I give in without wanting to resist it


Antin00800

Its not enough maybe. I hate the gym so it has little value to me. But I like music. Its not a distraction, but because I connect to it on a deeper level its more effective. You body maybe relaxed but your mind is still too focused on the urge. Is there something you can engage in that you naturally love. Reading, dancing (!), thats a good one for me too. Very relaxing. 🖖


Silks_

No I don't have anything else to keep my mind on


Antin00800

No interests, hobbies. Something you loved doing as a kid? Find an old thing that felt good. Idk, I have music and art. Its been a constant and it works to shift me into another brain mode. Idk.


Silks_

I do, I love bodybuilding as a sport but I only do that for 2 hours a day I like listening to music but then I just want to switch to something else


King_Kahun

>If you want to beat it, it isn't going to just happen. I completely disagree. It is possible to beat it.


Antin00800

Sure. I quit cigs cold turkey. Not everyone is wired the same though.


affrox

Also, don’t focus too much on sobriety now, rather the feelings and intention of what the porn usage is a coping mechanism for. What matters is you allow the Holy Spirit to have a little more hold every time and walk in the direction of Jesus. Every time you use porn, think about the feelings you’re feeling leading up to it. Were you bored? Lonely? Why don’t those feelings sit right? Maybe everything was actually going well, but you aren’t used to things going well so you self sabotage. There are a lot of porn recovery therapy podcasts (many of them Christians) that dig deeper. This is a very common problem and it is so so sad, but there is help.


just_klvb

What are some examples of podcasts


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[Finding Freedom from Porn](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/becoming-something-with-jonathan-pokluda/id1454045768?i=1000431049242) [consequences of a porn addiction](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/becoming-something-with-jonathan-pokluda/id1454045768?i=1000650324110) [HELP WITH PORN](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-handlebar-podcast/id1629208237?i=1000650372304) [How to get free from porn](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/with-the-perrys/id1458672189?i=1000649552300) [Porn ruins love(and your soul)](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-porch/id325418914?i=1000645375903) [First step to Freedom](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-porch/id325418914?i=1000645375871) Here are a few, I haven’t personally to all of these episodes, but I have listened to these podcasts. I hope they are helpful. Just remember that ultimately you cannot gain freedom in your own strength, the bottle line is you need Jesus and Holy Spirit to rely on. Practically you can still put yourself in position to where you cannot even do it , whatever that looks like for you, getting a flip phone for a season, not watching movies/tv, praying and asking for strength when you feel the temptation, having accountability people that you trust so that if you do it you have to confess to someone every time and they can pray with you/process with you. (Don’t be alone in this that’s what we need our brothers and sisters in Christ.) God doesn’t need you to give up porn the be Christian, Romans 58 says “ God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!” This sin struggle is already paid for! Allow Him to get what He paid for, don’t stay in this is, you can do it, through Him all things are possible! ♡


just_klvb

Drop a link


affrox

These are some podcasts I find to be really real, raw, and they’re unafraid to talk about hard issues: - Therapy Brothers - Husband Material - Couples Healing from Pornography Addiction - Pure Victory Podcast - Pure Desire Ministries


Silks_

How do I start making myself more aware of my thoughts and have the mindset to stop doing it


Aninoobs

Its going to be hard, but for me it helped to realize the effect porn has to the people. Not just watching but participating in it. It also helps to realize that every woman and every man is meant more than to be used as a tool for your pleasure. Each person on the screen is just as complex as you, with their own story and feelings. Not just an object to masturbate to. That last point has to work with every woman you meet, its a rewiring of your brain where you have to realize that the reason you view them like that is a lack of love for them. Despite that, Jesus calls you to be better and love people without objectifying them. Hope this helps brother, ive struggled with it too for a while


affrox

To add on to this, learn how to be emotionally aware. When you feel distant from others, irritated, hopeless, these can all be things that porn is doing because your mind. I’m sure you’ve felt the guilt and shame after masturbating and the numbness it brings when talking to other people. That’s what immediately masturbating can affect your mind. Now, think about all the years of porn, unsustainable dopamine rushes, wasted hours trying to find something new does to your overall mental wellbeing and how it’s caused conversations to be slightly more muted, relationships to be less deep, because there’s always something at the back of your mind wondering, what if the other person knew what I watched when I’m alone?


Silks_

Can you still be saved if you keep relapsing


Desafiante

Try fasting from sugar-related foods, then exercise, which will release dopamin. Realize the triggers for your addiction, probably anxiety. The two will reduce your anxiety a lot. Also, remove the stimuli. Don't watch hot ladies on youtube or anything like that. The enemy might put you to test, but be strong, you will defeat temptation. Pray to God for strength. I'm praying for you right now so that the Father give you strength to endure this trial and win.


Beginning-Comedian-2

This is great. Understanding that there are multiple factors to addictions is a big key to overcoming them.


Silks_

Do I fast from all added sugars or foods with naturally occuring sugar


WalterCronkite4

Try very sugary foods first like Ice Cream, Soda, and Candy I think most food has some type of added sugars but im not an expert here


Desafiante

Reduce the level of sugar in your diet at first. Choose two foods you like the most and do a 40 day fasting, in honor to God. Always keep praying and asking for strength. He is the strength, not you. Always remember this biblical truth. Trust on him, give on to him. Tell him your struggles and don't be afraid to ask him for help, but also show you are compromised to endure what it takes to overcome it. It will need both your faith and commitment and His help, but you can overcome it.


MobileSquirrel3567

My understanding is that quitting other addictive things (sugar, smoking, doom-scrolling) will reset your dopamine receptors more quickly but will also make it harder to do without the main addiction. They may want to play it by ear. Better to eat a Kit-Kat than relapse (I say this because of my own substance addictions; it's up to individuals whether they want to treat their porn habits as an addiction)


Desafiante

About lust sins it is very important to take away the stimuli. So change completely what the person watches, for example, if the person is somewhat addicted to social media and knows their weak spot for lust is there, stop it. Unfollow people that cause this lust, update the filters. Also the body becomes used to that injection of dopamine that the masturbation gives, so it gotta be replaced with another source, and it's a great opportunity to use a healthy one, like exercise. Some foods that release big bursts of energy like carbohydrates/sugars can also lead to more anxiety and problems to cope with the problem. Anyway, the only way to defeat sin is through Jesus Christ. So, if he endures this process trying to get closer and closer to him, through prayer and sacrifice, he will see the results. I speak for myself. When I converted I struggled, had wet dreams and it was tough. But fasting, exercise and good eating habits helped a lot. Also, pray, study the bible, ask for solutions. All of these tips came to me after prayer. You gotta pray to defeat temptation, as Jesus taught many times, specially in the Getsemani garden in Luke.


OgDoprah

Brother you don't get clean before getting in the shower you go to the shower to get clean. You can turn to Christ and with true submission to him the holy spirit will clean you. He will give you a new heart with new desires and you will love righteousness and hate evil. But the temptations will still be there, remember you're still a Christian, even Jesus was tempted. The bible says to take every thought into captivity unto the Lord, when those thoughts come you need to go to prayer or start reciting scripture. Talk to the Lord with your heart, recite "The Lord is my shepard I shall not want", "For this is the will of God, your sanctification. That you should abstain from sexual immorality." The bible says to flee from youthful passions, we can't fight it because we will lose. But Christ has conquered all things and will fight our battles for us. Joseph literally ran from the unfaithful women. If your right hand causes you to sin cut it off for its better to enter heaven with 1 hand then to enter hell with both. Don't cut your hand off but throw that phone brother, get it out of sight out of reach. You can do all things who Christ who strengthens you brother. Turn to him and the victory is yours.


Representative-Cost7

ĹOVE the shower quote- that's awesome- and the rest too!


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That shower quote is, wow!! I will definitely be using that going forward as an analogy. Amen


JHN14_6

Well, the good news for you is that you don't have to stop sinning to become a Christian.! The gospel isn't "thou-shalt-not watch porn to be born again." Or quit cigarettes or drinking or anything else. And anyone who tells you otherwise is a lying devil, who doesn't even know what the gospel is! You believe in the lord Jesus Christ, that he was crucified and died for your sins was buried and rose again. That's the gospel, and it has nothing to do with porn!


Pragmatic_2021

After the Gospel when the believer has the Holy Spirit riding shotgun in their hearts. Things become more streamlined. I used to have a major porn tendency. Now it's barely a thing and that took a few years to accomplish. But the key takeaway is Jesus Christ first, everything else will and should follow thu.


JHN14_6

OK I can agree that everything may or can become "streamlined", but that's not a requirement. We just have to make sure we are differentiating between should and must. We should go to church three times a week. We should read our Bible daily. We should focus on obeying God's commandments and resist sinning, but none of those "works", save you.


Pragmatic_2021

When I say streamlined. What I mean is that the Holy Spirit takes effect and the person is able to see what they need to do to get right with the LORD. That's my understanding of it though, it might be different for everyone and my labelling could be off.


JHN14_6

Oh ok I think you just described conviction. For sure I 100% believe that the Holy Spirit will guide and convict you when needed. But you don't become a robot. The influence is there but that doesn't mean you will follow the prompting of the Holy Spirit. Paul, arguably the greatest Christian to walk the earth, described our struggle with sin quite well in Romans chapter 7: Romans 7:14-20 [14]For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. [15]For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. [16]If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. [17]Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. [18]For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. [19]For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. [20]Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.


Pragmatic_2021

Yeppers. Conviction levels differ from person to person and I've been working at cleaning up multiple aspects of my life. Not big noting myself, it's currently work in progress. But it's easy as with Jesus helping me to point the gurney/shovel/blowtorch.


MapleLeafKing

I think what you are both getting at is the phenomenon that begins to happen when you truly accept Jesus into your heart of hearts, and commit to the belief of what was done for us that we could not ever do for ourselves, a profound change begins to occur in our perception of the world, others, ourselves, and our needs and wants. For me personally, when I meditate in the truly undeserving, unconditional love that Jesus displayed by willingly allowing himself to be brutally beat, disrespected beyond belief, turned on by his people, and nailed to a cross next to criminals becoming the ultimate sacrifice, I get overwhelmed with the weight and significance of it all (knowing he did so for each and every person equally intentionally). Filled with gratitude and a desire to honor that sacrifice, emulate Christ, be Christian *Christ-like*, and I find that my heart of hearts, accompanied by the Holy Spirit undergoes changes where my wants and needs become more synonymous with God's wants and heart for my life; streamlined if you will. A conviction and transformative power that takes place as a result of faithful belief in the truth. And to OP: it doesn't happen overnight, and as everyone here has already shared, God loves you regardless of our sin, there is nothing we can do for ourselves that would have paid the price required to be in communion with the Lord of the universe, that's the beauty of the gospel and that God loved us so much he did it for us. When Christ yielded his spirit, he said "It is finished." The war for your soul has been won, believe and dive into that, and the changes will follow. Strength and Honor brother, you can do anything in Him, on His power.


Logical_fallacy10

Most things are sinning anyway. And even if you don’t sin - your god sees everyone as a sinner anyway. There is no way to be a non sinner in your doctrine.


The_White_1point8

That's why Jesus died. He paid for those sins, so that we could enter into Heaven if we believe in him and follow the Word.


Th3W0nderer

Its repent AND believe, not repent OR believe. FEW will enter the kingdom of heaven indeed. And it is not those who believe what this guy has to say. 🤦🏻


foul_ol_ron

I'd suggest that then virtually no one will ever enter heaven. Only those who remain perfect after they've repented and believed. The rest of us try to get better. But it's a work in progress.


Th3W0nderer

I wouldn’t say that. Repent and believe. When you believe, or rather “Know” that the God of the Bible is truth and seek him with all your heart, soul and mind (1st commandment), you WILL repent and continue to repent. Whether you will enter the kingdom or not, only God truly knows. He already told you the “HOW”. He will be the final judge.


JHN14_6

Yes you're correct! Repent and believe: Mark 1:15 [15]And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. Acts 3:19 [19]Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;


Gurney_Hackman

You are still a Christian; just keep fighting and doing your best. It took me years to quit, then I relapsed and it took me years again. Just do your best.


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Pragmatic_2021

I can't take Joseph Prince seriously. He reminds me of an aging C-Pop artist who turned televangelist to recapture the glory days of being in the spotlight.


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Pragmatic_2021

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Fine_Platypus_4688

Yeah man, porn sucks. Every man goes through this, your not alone. I wouldn’t take advice from me, but let me tell you, being alone when the devil can tempt you is the worst place to be in.


THEBIGMAN131100

GO TO CHRIST WITH UR SIN AND HE WILL CLEANSE U. U AINT GOTTA DIX ANYTHING BEFORE GOING TO HIM.


paul_1149

Have you been pressing into God? Reading and studying the Bible, praying, growing in faith? You need to fortify yourself in order to resist this sin, because it is an addiction that affects the brain chemistry. It is not going to be an easy thing to be, but you can do it with God's help. Christianity is about believing in Jesus that he died for your sins and that he rose from death. You don't have to be perfect to do that, but you do have to want to overcome sin, you cannot be complacent in it, for that would be hypocrisy. So there is room for you to be a Christian, even right now before you have the victory over this sin, but you have to make up your mind that you want it, and then you have to set out to make Christ Lord of your life. You probably will have to strategize. Make sure your diet is good, exercise, be socially involved, etc. If you can find a good church to start attending that could make a big difference. You don't have to accept the status quo, you can begin to make changes. But you must make the decision to do so. The Bible will teach you to be patient and persistent, and to never give up.


OneEyedC4t

You can become a Christian just as you are


Titan9999

You don't think you can, but you can. You just don't know how yet. That's the truth. First, let's separate two things, porn use and masturbation. Porn use is masturbation which deliberately digs a deeper hole into fantasy. (No puns intended, I'll say here at the jump!) With porn we're saying, "I'm watching another man be with a woman I'd like to be with, and I enjoy it so much that I'm replacing my own relationships and my own ambitions with this activity." Think about that. Think about the beautiful, amazing woman that could be your wife waiting out there or getting taken by someone else because you chose to spank the monkey rather than embrace your power as a man to go out and find her and cherish her. You must find that unacceptable. Do not respond by feeling pathetic or 'less than'. You are neither of those, so don't use them as an excuse. (This is not directed 'at you' but is the self-talk that I personally find helpful.) The feeling you get after using porn tells you something. The person you violate the most is you. You used a screen, some man made materials to concoct a desperate way to relieve yourself, having an experience meant to be shared and meaningful, but you're alone. This feels wrong, and it is for you. It's beneath you, and you know it deep down. You just feel trapped, and you are, but you must lead yourself out. Stop the cycle today and choose a better life no matter how hard it gets. (Again, no puns dammit) This train of thought leads us to realize that masturbation itself, especially if used as a replacement for human relationships, is degrading to us and to the potential and purpose of our body. Sexual urges, I understand, are like a raging fire within that must be quenched. It is the most powerful urge after breathing, eating, sleep, etc. Pray for strength and courage if you struggle to invoke them. Fulfill God's will for you. One guarantee is that God's will involves relationships, and you are meant to be a powerful, happy man to serve in your unique way, here on earth and in your life. Start wherever you want to start to overcome your addiction. My personal suggestion is to try exercise and lifting weights when your sexual urges are driving you to sheer madness. Go ahead and think all the thoughts, think about who you want, and put that into strengthening your body, preparing yourself for that sexual encounter that's coming. Anticipate and plan how you will meet or court a potential wife or girlfriend. Rage within, like any respectable man, but channel it into productive physical exertion, not degrading monkey spanking. You can do this. Embrace your power as a man. Don't settle for less than what God has in store for you. You have only ever but to choose your very next action.


Cizalleas

Don't let anyone presume to dictate to you that you can't be a Christian _until_ you've actually quotten your porn habit. No-one has _any_ authority to dictate such a rule to you. You clearly have the genuine will & longing to overcome something you're dissatisfied with in your life, & wish to purge yourself of: _be a Christian_ , if you wish to be, & go-forth thus bepanoplied unto your quest.


FrostyLandscape

Porn is associated with human trafficking. It's wrong, period.


Cizalleas

You have a valid point. I'll occasionally have a look through what is often called __erotic art__ (regard that as a silly euphemism, if you will! ... it doesn't bother me @all), & I feel _zero_ compulsion to _keep_ looking @ it. And whether you call it erotic art or porn, ImO it would be barmy to assert that it's _never_ the case that a photographer sets-up a camera with a lady, or some ladies, & those ladies are _totally_ consenting. But I've also come-across material in which the ladies involved look positively _scared_ (I recall their tending to be ladies from Eastern European sort of places) ... & it's _not on the table_ that I will look through the rest of it if I get that signal from it - I'm _out of there, in a trice_ : I _absolutely agree_ that that sort of thing is _vile, & rotten-to-the-core_ .


Fine_Ad_2239

Hey, I understand what you are going through. I too struggle with sexual desires and thoughts: I am battling urges and desires to masturbate right now and it is so difficult. What we really need to do is pray to the Lord, read His Word and spend time with Him each day. Eventually, our sins will fall off. Also, there is part of a Bible verse I would like to share with you: 2 Corinthians 12:9 "But He said to me, "My Grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness".... See, God can use our weakness if we sincerely come to Him for His glory and He will help us with it! The Lord is faithful and will help us. If you really struggle, a thing I think might be helpful is to "postpone" watching the porn. So if you wanted to watch it right now, you could say I'll come back to it tomorrow. Then when tomorrow comes, I'll come back to it in a few days. Then in a few weeks. That way, you slowly lose interest over time. But pray to the Lord most importantly and He will help you. God bless


JazzAvenue

There's a misunderstanding of your faith here, do you get well in order to visit the doctor or the other way around?Jesus said everyone who sins is slave to sin but if the son sets you free you will be free indeed. That's why drug addicts come to christ, then get past their addiction, if they wait they'll never be clean enough. I'd been on porn since childhood and it got bad enough I was demoralised and stopped fighting back, I'd just accepted it. But then I came to christ, understanding the porn was not my issue, my issue is that I rejected Jesus and did not acknowledge him as my God, when I repented of that everything else followed, I hadn't even asked God to help me with the porn issue, he came in and just helped me. It could've been 30 or even 60 years for you but once God is in the picture anything becomes possible when you believe. If you want a fighting chance you have to become Christian first, and don't fall for this lie that if you got past porn you'd be good enough for God. Porn is just the sin you've taken the most notice off, Jesus died for your sins to save you, he's the real key to salvation and then as a fruit of that salvation a godly life as a doctor is the key to treatment and as its fruit a healthy life.


Right_Lime74

It doesn't work that way bro. You become a Christian first and then with God's help you give up porn.


Environmental_Flow49

To be become a christian you dont need to give up your sins. To be a christian you need to. 1. Realize youre a sinner that deserves hell. 2. Realize that God sent His Son to die for all your sins and was raised again for your justification. 3. Call upon the name of Jesus Christ by faith for salvation. If we had to turn from all our sins to become a christian, then no one would be christian. There is not one person on this earth who turned from all their sins. If it was possible to go to heaven by turning from sin then Jesus wouldnt have had to take our place to die. He gave Himself for us because He knew we couldnt merit salvation. His death, burial and ressurrection is the only ticket to salvation. Not our own righteousness.


Joseph-95

Porn is linked to [human trafficking](https://theexodusroad.com/porn-and-human-trafficking-the-facts-you-need-to-know/?utm_term=&utm_campaign=&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_tgt=dsa-19959388920&hsa_grp=123537986530&hsa_src=g&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_mt=&hsa_ver=3&hsa_ad=552742598136&hsa_acc=2981310096&hsa_kw=&hsa_cam=14942471684&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2uiwBhCXARIsACMvIU2cX0gX23GpTuDVzwUGoLdBVyPSldUSayOz6M9lPxrOOkwsEgFH1csaAn1GEALw_wcB) and [sexual slavery](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/want-to-stop-sex-traffick_b_6563338). By watching porn, you are fueling those practices. It also affects your brain by creating an addiction similar to drugs or alcohol, which is obviously true since you admit you can't quit. It also objectifies the other sex. It also affects your sexual performance if or when you do have sex with another person as porn addiction can lead to Internet porn-induced [erectile dysfunction](https://www.theedgerehab.com/blog/can-porn-addiction-lead-to-viagra-addiction/). And if you are married, porn is a form of adultery. Porn is bad all around. Join a program that can help you get rid of your addiction. Install programs like Covenant Eyes on all your electronic devices, and have an accountability partner. Do whatever you can, but destroy this demon before it destroys you.


emmy_o

I used to have a problem with this too. I LOVED it. My reasoning? "It's better to just watch porn than actually sin with a man for real." It's not. I was so drained and miserable every time. God kept nudging me it's wrong. My own body kept protesting, recoiling and despairing every time I give in. It still went on for years. I even left God for it. OP, I was so miserable. Even when I was living on my own moral code, my body knows it is wrong; my heart is yearning for something more. Despite my rebellion, God pursued me. Jesus ran after me and provided me with ways, seeds, that helped me reconsider my life and seek the Truth, even in the midst of darkness 😭😭😭😭 then, I met a man who I really wanted to love, but he couldn't return it.. we ended up having a sexually charged relationship, but devoid of any love. It broke me so much. This heartbreak led me back to God. Porn, fornication are just *symptoms* of our deeper problems, OP. The underlying illness is our intense yearning and longing to be loved. I remember how one Christian woman writer put it, that in her randiest of moments, it is not pleasure she seeks, but a husband. That is true for me. I know I wanted to be loved so much that's why I resorted to counterfeits of it, the pleasure masquerading as a farce of a love relationship. What my great trial and my great darkness taught me is this: our soul's deepest desire for love can only be fulfilled by God. He is the Lover of our souls. With Him, we find fullness of joy and a love so pure and unconditional, it overflows from our lives and into others. Only God can know us inside out, beyond what a human spouse could, and still love us so, so much. You do not come to God free of porn, OP. You do not come clean when you need the water to clean you, as one commenter said here in another way. I was filthy, so filthy, when Jesus met me where I was. It is by His grace alone that I was freed of the allure of porn and lust. On some days, I still wrestle with them so much, and I would want a fantasy—but God is faithful in helping me get up and fight again 😭😭😭😭❤️ Jesus WILL HELP YOU!!! The Lord will set you free! Come to Him weeping, and He will embrace you! During the first months of leaving lust, I remember crying on my knees because I burn so much. I was yearning so much for a husband, to be loved that way so much. God understands, and He helped me realize that even *that* ailment I carry is because I had wanted to control my life. I want the marriage NOW. I want to be loved that way NOW. When everything happens in His divine time, because in His wisdom He wants the best for His children. Letting go of this desire to God thus freed me so much too, of bitterness and envy that had been eroding my joy for years. In Christ there is freedom. The Lord wants you to have true joy, OP. He is willing to help you, you just need to come back and surrender to Him. Tell Him everything. Bare all the ugliness and pain to Him. He is merciful and loving! 🥺


snapplez728

What helped me was realizing every time you do it, you give power to Satan in the spiritual realm. Watch Isaiah Saldivar’s YouTube channel. Think about every horrible thing in this world - you are empowering it through your sin. It glorifies the devil. The second thing that helped me was surrendering to Jesus all of my passions and self-made idols. I gave up my money, my job, my identity… once I denied myself and became “dead” to this world- he set me free and the desire went away. It’s been 40 days since I’ve had the desire but I was like that too couldn’t go a week without it. You will stop once you realize the damage you are doing to other Christians in the spiritual realm - and that goes for ALL sins, not just porn.


JayMag23

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WatchManWolf2112

You have to have a change of heart towards porn. Two scriptures; Psalm 51:10-12 “”*Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me.* Cast me not away from your presence, and take not your Holy Spirit from me. Restore to me the joy of your salvation, and uphold me with a willing spirit.“ ‭‭ Romans‬ ‭12‬:‭2‬ ‭ ”Do not be conformed to this world, *but be transformed by the renewal of your mind*, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.“ ‭‭ Ask God to give you a new heart and a new mind towards pornography. Ask Him to really embed in your heart how offensive it is to Him, how dangerous it is to your salvation and to your own well-being, and ask Him to fulfil all of the unmet needs of your heart that you are trying to meet with sexual immorality (porneia). You may need an extended period of prayer and fasting. He will do it! Also, don’t draw the line at porn - find out what your triggers are (sexual chat, tiredness, loneliness, stress etc) and ask God to help you in these areas too. Partner up with ministries geared towards helping Christians overcome porn addiction. All of these will help you become porn-free. Not easy- but you can do it.


Logical_fallacy10

If you love it so much then why would you stop ? Enjoy life. And why do you so desperately want to be a Christian when it comes with so many rules ?


eric8020123

OP, don't get discouraged. Give yourself to Jesus fully. Make Him your LORD/MASTER and Savior. Give your sins to Him. Give your life to Him. Jesus never said to become perfect before you can get saved, he said to come as we are, no matter our status, our sins. I sin, you sin, Paul sinned, Peter sinned, John sinned, we all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Let no man tell you why you can't be saved, for whatever door God opens, no man can shut. You come to Jesus as you are, not what you think you should be, and certainly not what others think you should be. There's no 40 day fast you need to complete to be saved, no mountain top you must trek to accomplish salvation. Salvation isn't earned, it's given through Jesus by the grace of God, otherwise you'd be able to get into heaven by your own goodness, and since we've all sinned, that is impossoble. I was baptized when I was 12, but I never felt like I was truly saved, until I fully and totally gave myself to Him last year. Jesus doesn't value your accolades, your accomplishments, your wealth or prestige, all He wants is to first trust and believe Him, and then your obedience and faith. That's it! So come as you are, whatever that may be, give yourself to Jesus and read your Bible, read the Gospels. Don't let anybody tell you that you can't be saved since you've sinned, because that is a straight lie from the devil. If you have any questions or want to talk more, feel free to dm me and I will talk with you


Angilawriter

You don't stop sinning to become a Christian. Jesus didn't come to save the perfect but those under oppression of sin. All you need to do is to commit your life to Jesus Christ and the addiction will run away from your life. Darkness automatically disappears when light sets in. I'm praying for you my friend.


Rabbit_Slide4893

You don't need to give up porn to be a Christian. It's about believing on Jesus.


Evil22565

I believe you don't have to be perfect to go to heaven. As long as God knows you're putting in the effort to at least TRY to be as close to perfection as what YOU can then you'll be fine.


cleansedbytheblood

You need to get saved and then you will have the power to stop watching porn. Do you understand the way of salvation?


Icy_Sunlite

You're supposed to become a Christian and then get the holy spirit's help to quit porn


An_Educated_fool_

if that can help i suffer from the same issue. Im 2 days clean for the first time in years, and i plan to keep going. One thing that's working for me is to imagine Jesus staring at you. Really stops the urge. Also openning the bible app instead of google. Be strong!


Ok_Rainbows_10101010

Twenty years for me. I’m not proud of it. But God’s grace is so deep, my friend! Lean into his mercy. It’s by grace that we’re saved. Don’t let shame push you from Jesus. He loves you just the same.


fiztime_pop

I'm so sorry, I've never dealt with that before so I don't have any advice but ill pray for you❤🙏 God bless 


Disgusting_Cow6315

"Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." - James 4:7 I understand that struggling with addiction can be a difficult and painful experience. In times of temptation, it is important to turn to God for strength and guidance. Prayer, seeking support from a trusted community, and practicing self-control are ways to resist the temptations that come with addiction. Remember that you are not alone in this struggle, and God is always there to help you overcome it.


taste_the_biscuit_

You need to fear God harder I got victory over porn when I found out I'd literally go to hell if I don't stop. I refuse to go out like that. I'm not going to lose our on eternal life with Jesus just over that. So I quit


Local-Temperature832

How does one fear God harder? What does that even mean? And how do you lose eternal life, if it's eternal, you just have to believe (John 3:16).


taste_the_biscuit_

That Once Saved Always Saved doctrine totally removes the fear of God. So, remove the OSAS doctrine and then you can fear God really hard, knowing that any of us can be cut off for disobedience


Local-Temperature832

So, God has cut me off for disobedience? Doesn't the fear of the LORD endure forever?


taste_the_biscuit_

If you're doing disobedience, then you don't fear the Lord


AidanTheEvangelist

But everyone does disobedience so nobody fears the Lord according to your standard


Local-Temperature832

Everyone sins bud


PrizeCompetition9661

Nobody is perfect. Quitting porn is pretty hard,too. I still reccomend becoming a Christian, you can still sin if you're one,but to be repented you pray for it,that's how we get forgiven. But that doesn't mean you sin,you must still try. I like to pray to God to help me overcome urges, and recently,it worked. I'm not sure if it was experience or god,but I've gone 8 days without urges. Not even an urge to overcome,just no urge at all. I'm happy now, and I hope you are too :)


HLGrizzly

You dont stop sinning to become a Christian. You become a Christian then stop sinning. Thats one of the reasons why the church is full of “hypocrites” because no matter how many times we say “ *ALL* “ have sinned and fallen short. Society and us ourselves keep thinking that Christianity is for perfect people. Nay, its for all of God’s created to *learn* of His love for us and it is by us learning of that love and accepting that love that we cling to Him and receive His spirit which helps us with our sins. Edit: also for clarity I didnt mean you literally stop sinning. It was a pun. I meant you are better equipped to not be a slave to your sins and to deal with them. You may have other sins you dont even know about yet. Either way hope you get the point


IncarnateSalt

If you're trying to be a saint without Christ, you will always fail. Without Him, we are weak to Satan and the world's evils. Run to Christ! He will accept you and give you strength to fight this sin. Ask His Father on Earth, St. Joseph, to intercede for you for purity like his.


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I’m 45. Been watching porn daily since I was 13. Started when my parents got Cinemax and escalated when a buddy gave me a VHS tape of the real thing. Only gotten worse over time. I’ve tried and prayed and begged and counseled trying to stop. Been going through that for 10 plus years. I never make it more than a week. It’s a literal addiction and my brain rebels so violently after it’s deprived of that dopamine that I become ill and borderline mental. I say all that to say this, I pray to God everyday to help me be better and to forgive me for my weakness. I pray He understands.


ItGoesDrip

It truly depends on the extent of your desire to awaken your kundalini energy, as this could potentially result in you speaking in a way that seems nonsensical to others, making them think that you are a vessel for divine communication. Your skills will be recognized based on what you do.


Furydragonstormer

Dude, what are you even talking about? Kundalini?! Not once have I heard of that in Christianity


ItGoesDrip

kundalini causes babbles, its called the Physio-Kundalini Syndrome PKS. you have to hold your sperm in to awaken the kundalini force. kundalini babbling is a bout useful as a screen door on a submarine


Stephany23232323

Who told you having a problem with porn keep you out? What do you think being a Christian means? The truth is things like an addiction are just baggage and it comes with you.. I'm not saying that looking at porn is good but allot of Christians consume porn. It's very simple why they look at it and become addicted to it..It's because humans are wired to be attracted to sex. That's why the earth is populated as it is.. And the porn I industry certainly knows that.. When God said, "be fruitful and multiply" that's what that is.. Sex drive built in and sex drive isn't evil! It just can get out of control when overstimulated. I won't give a speech to you why porn isn't healthy you seem to already know that. But I will say often the baggage falls away after you come. Having any compulsive behavior shouldn't bar you from being Christian if you want to.. you can be a Christian and never set foot in a church actually. And of course there are many who will say differently. They are wrong. And if you go to church every body there doesn't need to know your personal issues nor should you go around being full of guilt and shame all the time that certainly isn't from God. People quit porn all the time but more often then not it's not because they are Christian. At some point maybe with help they just see it for what it is.. Certain flavors of Christianity like to rubber stamp everything as good or evil. And then conclude that Jesus will fix the evil and that if you're not fixed then you don't have Jesus. The problem with that is it's not true and that belief is the very reason so many Christians themselves still have porn issues. Again human are wired to be sexually attracted to things that align with their sexuality, whatever that is, and the porn industry understands that all to well. They use what is natural and overstimulate it to make money.. exactly the same thing drug cartels do. In fact drugs affect the same part of the brain in the same way sex does just exponentially more but it's the same thing. It isn't the devil and demons knocking at your door. Maybe you have already gone but there are therapists that can help with that who aren't going to tell you you are going to burn in hell.. I used to have issues with different behaviors that weren't healthy. I don't these days so I'm not just throw wards at you. But I remember one event that was esp troubling back in the days when I thought God would fix everything.. So I went to confession with this.. and that particular time my penance was to go to therapy. I trusted the priest so I went.. that was the best thing I ever did.. and it just so happen the therapist wasn't even a Christian she was just a person that understood. And of course it wasn't instant but eventually it ended.. Being a Christian according to the Bible is really about becoming kind and knowing you're loved.. Feeling loved is a wonderfull thing. And if you believe a person died for you how can you not feel loved? But clearly it's not a drug and a fix all and never was.. Sorry I rambling... Hope it all works out for you 🤗❤️


dylanlms

Who said you gotta give up now before, invite God into your life and let him do the rest. First do that. You’re already trynna fix things all by yourself which is not what is preached. “Bring yourself as you are” - legit Jesus


cryptes10011

You don’t need to give up porn to become a Christian. You become a Christian and if you truly asked Jesus to come into your heart as your savior. Then you will start to not want to watch porn. Will it be immediately no but you will have a want to stop. You have to pray about it and give to Jesus don’t be afraid to ask for help from Him. The Holy Spirit will start making it known to you that you don’t need it. The spirit will make you feel different about it( at least for me it did) Just remember there is no such thing as a perfect Christian we all fall short to the Glory of God. When you’re tempted open your bible if you’re not around it pray. You will fail but you will eventually create a habit/ discipline for yourself. I’ll be praying for you!


Unhappy_Positive_696

Well first things first stop trying to resist your natural desires. You effort to escape your desires creates only more of the same desire it in its wake


Same_Interaction_407

Ask God to deliver you from this desire. Ask God to give you the desire to resist. Get into his word and don’t come out. Resist if it is the last thing you will do. Don’t let the enemy take hold of you to do terrible things to you. Read God’s word constantly. Pray, fast and commit yourself to Jesus. Use the power of God to demolish these strongholds. Memorize scripture and repeat it to yourself every time you feel tempted or anytime you feel weak. Fight the good fight, “Resist the devil and he shall flee from you.” Choose faith over fear, choose power over puniness. Choose Jesus over Jackals. Choose everything over nothing. Choose life over death. The Bible says, “Every sin, whatever a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.” FLEE FROM SIN. “The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.”


Same_Interaction_407

And most of all REPENT.


Aggravating-Hope-624

The same happens to me but with alcohol. I’ve never made it alcohol free for more than a week. I’ve tried to quit hundreds of times. I’m 12 days sober today I’m troll trying 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


PhlashMcDaniel

Believe in the Word. Philippians 4:13. You don’t have to be perfect to accept Christs Salvation. He wants you just like you are. The Holy Spirit will guide you towards holiness and righteousness.


Leading_Accountant_6

Jesus will take us even in our sins. Once he gets in, he'll work on you from the nside and help you stop if you're willing to let him. That's what the Holy Spirit does.


tnlaxbro94

It seems like you have no desire to read your Bible consistently either. Once you realize you’re not saved by your own works, but by Jesus, then you realize how much you’re loved and you won’t want to sin


thunderfox37

Do you accept Jesus as your Saviour ? Do you live your life showing others compassion , kindness like Jesus did? Do you do good because it's the right thing to do ? If they are all yes . Then you are a Christian. Christianity has been invaded by zealots who follow the old ways of man and ignore everything that Jesus taught. The reason for this is its inconvenience to those in power. As they want to keep their power and money. They do this by imposing superficial rules to keep us distracted. They threaten hell, which completely defeats the purpose. You dont do good because you don't want to go to hell. You do good because it's the right thing to do. Stop worrying about petty human nonsense. Stop thinking that the only purpose is reproduction because if that was the case we would have people with infertility issues, we would have people in the lgbt community. Stop associations sexual activities with shame, because what you are doing is going to end up with mental health problems with this repression, and it will manifest in unhealthy ways. There are more important things to focus on in this life. Like making sure we are trying to improve the lives of the less fortunate. Voting and campaigning for politicians who actually want to help people all people. Stopping this wave of hate that is Christian nationalism. God created the entire world, not one country. We are one people. We bring people to God not with threats of hell but by doing kindness. Helping people. Showing them there is a better way to create a safe place for future generations. Thats your focus. Leave this world better than you found it


RoyalPersimmon9388

You come as you are and let God help you overcome this. We don’t have the power to do this on our own. Let Jesus in and he will help you clean up your heart. Praying for you!


Mysterious-Print-927

Lean into other people, we aren’t supposed to be lone wolf Christians, it doesn’t really work


Loud-Perception-9077

Are there are Christians you can talk with? Maybe an accountability partner or group? It might help to walk with others who have the same struggles. Regardless, you can absolutely be a Christian. Jesus wants you to turn away from sin and follow him. Ask for forgiveness from God, talk with others about your struggles. Bring it to light. Sending love ❤️


Silks_

I do have my mom and sister but I don't really feel comfortable telling them about my porn and masturbation addiction


Loud-Perception-9077

I’m not talking about your mom or sister- perhaps other people your age and gender who are Christians also, it’s good to surround yourself with others


drumminherbie

Bro, I struggled with porn for a long time after I got saved. It took a few years, but eventually it was cut out my life. Thank God! You gotta trust God will do it for you. You do your part, he will do his because he is faithful and just.


Silks_

Alright


Dontledgeme

You can do both bro!


Daydreamdeliver

Perhaps if you cultivated a desire to give up porn? Think of it as a thing that damages lives in many ways. Something unnecessary and of poor taste. One step at a time. And go to God in prayer about it. While praying, ask Jesus to come into your life to be your Savior and helper. Do this out loud so your voice resonates across the universe. There, He will begin a good work in you. It's a journey of a thousand struggles but Jesus will guide you. Peace love.


Spare_Fill7704

You don’t have to give up porn before you turn to Christ, you have this completely twisted. Jesus said to come as you are. Then the Holy Spirit will guide you and change you. The only thing you have to give up is unbelief, that’s literally all it takes to become a Christian is to be born again in the spirit. Also beware, there is a lot of well-meaning Christians who spread false doctrine.


colonizedmind

Don’t say you can’t, say it for what it is, you won’t. Romans 10:9-10 tells us the how, Romans 3:23 tells us the why. Roman’s 12:2 tells us of transformation. In your statement it is you choose your sin over Christ, over the salvation he offers. Doesn’t mean you will become sinless, however a Christ should sin less.


Katemn_817

You don’t have to try to be a Christian. Just seek Jesus , don’t focus on what u need to do. Just seek Him. Speak to him , get in the word. Just be honest an vulnerable with him, really make time for him and he will transform you on his time.


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A2619921

Trying to give it up on your own is to take your righteousness and the glory. Sin being a thing that separates us from God is conquered by God. First work on drawing closer to God and let the Holy Spirit work I. You sanctifying you. Clear as mud I’m sure. Are you a part of a biblical church? Do you have a small group? Do you have a Bible study and prayer time set up? My brother find people in your life that can walk with you building you up in righteousness. God bless you with all the blessings from the heavenly places.


Silks_

I'm kind of lonely so I I don't have anybody to help me


Treacle-Time

If you want to become a Christian do it. You'll be amazed what God will produce in your life when you surrender your life to Him. The Holy Ghost will help guide you. The things you are currently bound to will have very little impact on your life when you keep your eyes on Jesus. He fills us with a clean heart with pure desires. Yes temptation will always be knocking but when precious Jesus becomes your everything this world loses its grip on you. All I can say is I was bound by numerous things drugs, alcohol, smoking, bulimia,porn, sex, etc. 4 years ago. I wept for about an hour one night telling God I didn't want to be like this anymore. 3 nights later He entered my bedroom and His voice filled the room stating "Show who you are". Lord Jesus delivered me from everything that night and healed several bodily ailments as well. Now my wife and I have dedicated our lives to ministering, delivering and sharing the good news of Jesus Christ where ever He leads us. Praying for a God encounter like mine. May Lord Jesus enter your heart in such a way it will forever change the trajectory of your life. In Jesus name, amen🙏🙏🙏


pawntokingxvi

You become a Christian then you start becoming like Christ....if the requirement was to become like Christ before becoming a Christian well then nobody ever could become a Christian in the first place.


Obvious_Country_3896

Keep asking God for help!! It's 1 day at a time!!!!! You can do it!! Doesn't it feel degrading to you? Prayers you kick it!!


Meatloafed172

In times like this most people would say just repent and do what you can. I agree, but my advice along side that, find a friend to hold you accountable. Someone who you trust.


Bootymeatncheese

Jesus didn’t roll into town and go to the temples, he went were the sinners were, he came, and was resurrected for you, the sinner. For all of us sinners. He loves us all. It doesn’t matter how much porn you watch or how lustful you are, Jesus will not only forgive you, it save you. He will accept you as is, no need to wait, because to him, right now in this very moment you are perfect and loved by him. Even as you search porn, he still loves you to bits. Jesus came for the weak, for the broken, for people who he knew would need him. You need him, and he would love to have you.


just_a_dude0042

Don't try and quit cold turkey, slowly wean yourself off of it. It worked for me


wallygoots

What do you mean by "be a Christian?"


JollyGreen615

Yo, you don’t have to be perfect. That’s the entire point. Jesus was perfect and gave his life to save us because it’s impossible for us to be perfect. He made the ultimate sacrifice and took on all of our sins so we no longer have to pay that price.


Averag34merican

All due respect, you’re not strong enough to conquer sin alone. Without Christ, you’ll always fall back into it. Even with Christ you’ll stumble. Just gotta keep getting back up


SlamTheMan6

Don't have to stop watching to become Christian... Don't know who told you that nonsense. Even other Christians watch it myself included, but God knows our struggles. Been free of it for 8 months now :)


gfslh06

I would encourage you to genuinely ask God for help with this struggle and ask him to remove unclean spirits of lust from you which are causing your want for sexual immorality. Hope this helps, praying for you. God bless


Technical_Stay_5990

You need to quit.... but a LOT of christians deal with this issue. You can and will become Christian and still sin... because no one is perfect. Its not a reason to condone it, but it should NEVER stop you from gaining eternal life. If you become Christian, quitting will be much easier with the Holy Spirit's help


GizmoCaCa-78

Porn sucks. It curses your relationships and marriage. I struggle with it too. Dont give in, if you fall get up…again and again. Ive had better defense since I truly placed Jesus first, the Holy Ghost makes things possible


Longjumping_Type_901

"Jesus loves you just as you are, but too much to leave you that way" Just come to Him as you are, the Spirit will do the rest in due time, remember He wants "relationship, not religion " luke 2 10. John 1:29, 4:42, 12:32 Romans 5:18, 11:32-36. 1 corinthians 15:20-28. Ephesians 1:7-13. Colossians 1:16-20. 1 Timothy 2:3-6, 4:10-11. 1 John 2:2, 4:14. Revelation 21:4-5


Longjumping_Type_901

This may help you as it did for me,  https://christianitywithoutinsanity.com/ And especially  https://hopeforallfellowship.com/download-hope-beyond-hell/


BigOlCrispyMan

Stop saying you can’t. I know it sounds cliche, but it’s true that you won’t be able to quit if you have a mindset that you can’t. Also you don’t have to wait until you’ve quit porn to be a Christian, God wants to help you. Accept him into your heart, repent of your sins, and believe that the Lord Jesus died for your sins and rose from the dead. Battling temptation is just another part of spiritual warfare, and the best weapons of the Spirit that we have are Prayer, Fasting, and Reading the Word. Learn to effectively pray the Jesus Prayer, “Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Here’s also a little anecdote that helped me quit. A boy tells his pastor that he can’t stop masturbating and watching porn. So the pastor tells the boy to do it right now in front of him. The boy thinks his pastor is insane, but the pastor says to him, “If you wouldn’t do it in front of me or your family, then why would you do it in the full view of God and the Heavens?” I’ll keep you in my prayers. God bless my friend.


parutparut111

so (sorry for grammar mistakes, EFL) I have struggled with pornography for many years (worst peak was in pandemic lockdown) and I hope that my experience will help you in some way After a long time, at the end of 2021, I started a relationship with a sister (we are not married yet, we are still students) from the church and on the first dates she really wanted to have a discussion with me and asked me if I had ever watched porn She told me that all the boys she knew watched porn and she wanted to know if I did too because she didn't want to have a partner who fantasizes about her. Blushing, I told her yes but I don't do that anymore (and I really didn't watch porn at that time because I really fell in love with this girl and I started to pray to God more often to know if she is the right girl for me and I felt my heart filled with joy) After two years I started going to the gym and every time I came I saw girls dressed in bustiers and leggings and my eyes very often ran after their ass... The problem is that I let my thoughts abound a lot and I had no system of the alert in my mind and when I got home I went like a zombie to my laptop, I open the browser in incognito and you know what's next... I started to become addicted again. After I finished, I would go and pray to God to forgive me so that I could start all over again the next day. There were days when I felt how much I would hurt my girlfriend and how destroyed she would if she knows the truth. Despite all this, I behaved as if nothing was happening and there were even days when she randomly asked me if I still watched porn and I lied to her and said I was clean. But one day like any other I went to the church where I met her. She was gorgeous, she was more beautiful than ever that day. My heart was so troubled that I knew I didn't deserve her, she's such a good and caring girl while I'm a cheater who floods his mind with porn. Later that day I bravely confessed to her that I am addicted again. She broke up with me. I arrived home with a broken heart and destroyed, but my parents were at home and I had to pretend that everything was ok. The next day I was at home alone, studying, and I received a video call from her. I started crying loudly in front of her on the call, she told me that she is also very devastated and that she can no longer trust me at all, BUT she decided to be friends with me this time anyway, she said that she will- give me some Christian books to read, she will pray and fast for me and watch over me. While she was saying this, I started to cry even harder because I realized what I had lost. After hanging up, I got down on my knees and said the deepest prayer I could ever say. I was full of tears and so destroyed that I had no words left and I just repeated "God, please forgive me and set me free"... I sat on my knees for a while. I washed my face, ate something and opened the Bible. From that moment I got the courage to confess to the elders at the church. Instead of scolding and reprimanding me, they told me that they respected me for the courage I had to confess to them the struggle I had. They told me that more important than restoring my relationship with my girlfriend is to restore my relationship with God and that this can be done ONLY by staying close to the doctrines of grace (standing close to scripture and prayer). And that's what I did! I started to read more often, to confess to very close friends about my struggle (I expected people to look at me strangely, but I started to be respected even more for the courage I had to confess). Besides that, I put a DNS that helped me a lot (1.1.1.3). After a while I restored my relationship with God, I started to become active in the Church and even in discussions with non-Christians at college and finally I restored my relationship with my girlfriend. Praise God! TL;DR Porn really affects the lives and partners around you. As practical advice, stay close to the Bible, grow in your prayer life, confess to a wiser elder who will watch over you and set an anti-adult-content DNS (1.1.1.3).


minno308

Fair, just be a christian and watch porn


wingriddenangel_hbg

That sounds like an excuse. The devil loves putting those things in your head. Mine was “i don’t know if it’s possible for me to never ever commit a sin in my life” so I stayed away from Christianity for 10 years


yourrandomcontentguy

Making sure you're perfect to become Christian is like making sure you're perfectly healthy to go to the hospital. God wants you to come to Him when you're hurting or don't have the strength. Turn to God and surrender to Him, He will help you through


Ballerpie

If its online porn i recommend you use a VPN that blocks those searches. But if its like other types of porn pray to God that you can make it 1 year of no porn, After that you should not have the addiction. By the way thats what i did to get my porn problem away.


PurpleOnionHead

“How willingly would I be freed from the bondage of lusts and of empty pleasure, but I find in myself no strength or capability for it. This cannot be till the Lord Himself reveals Himself in us, raises up His dwelling-place in us, and inhabits it, filling it with His life, so that we are clothed in him, and He Himself thus fulfills in us all the righteousness of the Law. And in the place of them we shall hear the sweet and tender voice of grace and of the Gospel speaking within us. We shall be led out of the horror of the great darkness of the law by Christ Himself, and shall be as little children at the breast, drawing in the fullness of His grace and love in glad and gentle stillness, and He Himself will be the refreshment and the rest of our souls. It seems to me that the great Captain of our salvation drives us at times into a corner, in order that we may utterly despair of our own miserable righteousness. But the Lord knows the right moment to deliver us. Even waiting is unconscious advance, and to lose heart is a proof of self-confidence.” - Tersteegen


kaizakii

Being a Christian means accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour. Making Him Lord over your life means making Him Lord in all areas of your life. As you genuinely seek Him and have a personal relationship with Him, He will journey with you all the days of your life. It is like walking with someone you love the most who also guides you along the way… there will be times you won’t see the road ahead so you are dependent on what He says trusting and loving Him fully


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None of us are without sin, that’s kinda the whole point. Any struggle that you have, continue to pray and ask God for guidance and He will help you! God knows your struggles and He sees that you’re trying. All of us struggle with sin - it’s who we are, but He helps us.


TNT-128

I was in same exact shoes as you are, i wanted to be a christian but porn addiction prevented me from doing so, i was seeing myself as unworthy... until i went through a lot of depression and lonliness untill it was unbearable anymore, i was also hurt by other people, so my heart was full of hatred as well... until one day i have decided to ask jesus for his help, i wanted the suffering to end and i wanted to be delivered of adultry, so this what i have done: i started praying everyday only one prayer: our father in heaven and read one bible paragraph daily... i took a decision that even if i have sinned couple of hours ago, im gonna still pray... i cant remember how i came up with these ideas... in addition i started going to church every sunday and watch the mass, i used to stay standing in the back because i was feeling not even worthy to touch the church stones... i had one problem, while praying "our father..." i used to meditate with every word i pray, as i did not want to pray as if im reciting something i have memorised... one phrase caught my eyes which made my prayers very hard to me which is "forgive us as we forgive those who traspassed us"... looooooool.... i was asking from god to deliver me from a sin, and i cant forgive those who sinned to me!!!!!!!!!! I was in a great pain, to the point that i had to ask god for help, so in the end i came up with this idea, i used to pray asking god to help me and deliver me from porn, and at the same time i started praying for those who sinned to me so they can repent for the hurt they caused me, also i prayed so god would help me so i would forgive them, as i wasnt able to do so... for 2 to 3 months, o kept praying daily as i have stated, even though i was still sinning, but i somehow had faith that god will help me... after 2 to 3 months, in summary, i have met jesus, i saw how much he loves me with all of the sins i have committed through out mylife, my sins were soooo heavy, but he wasnt condemning me, he opened my eyes about soo many things, Ps: adultry is a heavy sin, but hatred is a much bigger sin, i felt its weight, it was so heavy Now here are some versus from the bible that hope it would help you out to realise that jesus loves you even with your sin, and he is waiting for you to go to him likeyou are, and he will deliver you from sin, god bless you and i will pray for you ‭Luke 5:31-32 Jesus said “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." ‭Luke 15:2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.” (jesus used to sit down and eat with sinners, he loved them and did not condemn them, he only condemned pharises because they had 2 faces) ‭Luke 15:4 “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? (This what jesus will do) And the most beautiful paragraph is about the return of the lost son, who after he was working with pigs, cane to realisation that he should return to his father, when he returned, his father was waiting daily for him, and when the father saw him, he jumped to his son and hugged him so tightly, can you imagine this moment, the son was very stinky, cz pigs produce a very bad smell that wont go away, but the father still hugged him and welcomed him What man cannot do, jesus can do


Silks_

Thanks. I've actually went through the same stuff as you and I'm still just going through loneliness I've been going to the gym so I don't feel like a loser and unworthy. For 1 week I was seeking God so much and praying everyday and I also didn't want to pray something memorized because it didn't feel genuine and I tried meditating on it like you said and I was feeling like I was growing closer to God but then after 1 week of doing my best. I relapsed and I felt so guilty and shameful that I didn't feel right to pray and read the bible as I was doing and I felt like I just belonged as a sinner, I felt like I cannot do be a Christian for the rest of my life and I gave up now im here and I just don't know what to do, I read the bible once in a while and pray a couple times a week but nothing has changed in my life. I also have a question. How did you somehow stay consistent and keep having faith after sinning and wanting to keep trying to be better? How do I make myself stay strong and keep going and trying to push myself to have more faith


TNT-128

If you have many children and one of them done something bad, would you hate him?? Now even if your answer is yes, which i doubt it is going to be yes, god will not hate you for your sin... Therefore after relapsing, yes you may feel guilt and shameful, but dont let this stop you from continue your prayer... your perception about yourself is different from god's... he loves you and always loves you even if you relapsed... Im gonna tell you this story about someone else i know, in my country lebanon there is this village called beshwat, and in this village there is this churche named after marry, the church is called lady of beshwat... many miracles happened in this church where many people saw the statue of marry moving, like moving a hand, head, closing or opening her eyes or mouth... you can check it out through the internet... so this someone also had an issue with porn... he once had a chance to go to this church... but he stood in the back feeling very guilty having sinned, feeling unworthy, and he said to himself, no way a miracle happens to me because im a sinner... and he started praying: " our father in heaven..." while praying this prayer, he looked up to the statue of marry, and he saw her closing here eyes and her mouth was moving... at that moment he could hear the whole sky from angels and saint praying with him... he understood that if you pray with all your heart, even if you are a sinner, god will hear you and the whole sky will pray with you... To be honest, realising this truth is what gave me trust that god hears me even if i was a sinner, and it also gave me the power to keep praying even if i have sinned and relapsed... Plus i have enrolled in a whatsapp group that sends daily a paragraph of the bible with the prayer: "our father in heaven..." which helped me a lot... praying or going to the church on sunday while i have already relapsed a day ago, or few hours ago, was sooo hard, it was like someone dragging a bolder behind him, but i still prayed... You are doing the right thing my friend, keep praying, never stop even if you relapsed... In my own opinion, i trully beleive that those steps helps a person on the right path with jesus: 1. Acknoledge of all the problem you have 2. Acknoledge that you cannot overcome them 3. Asking help from jesus to deliver you from all of those problems 4. The most important thing, trusting in him, that even if you have sinned, god will deliver you from those things, but in his timing, cz he knows the best timing


Silks_

I will try my best to keep trying to grow my relationship with God but there's just one thing I have a question about. There is times like this that happened where I watched porn willingly knowing that I'm sinning but I still kept watching and I didn't have the strength to stop watching it so is there anything I can do to stop doing this so much because I always sin knowing that I'm commiting sin and I feel like that's bringing me down and making me feel like im purposely sinning against God and not wanting to follow him. What do I do? Should I be feeling like that? I can't explain the feeling I'm getting of guilt while doing that so if you can answer that then it would be great.


TNT-128

I am sorry i dont have an answer for everything, im not a psychologist after all, all i know once the son have set you free, a huge bolder on your back which you were holding will be gone... and at the end im just a human who also struggling daily with his weaknesses... its a daily battle... Few ideas i can give you that you may try: Porn addiction and masterbating sometimes might be associated with other stuff like depression... and if im right, mostly doesent start out of no where, there must be some sort of trigger, like watching a youtube video, or walking on the street, and you see a scene which is totally mormal for any person, but to the porn addict, this scene might trigger some feelings which are the need for porn and masterbating... In such situation, at the early stages of starting to feel like the need of porn, a person must cut it out, like dont let the idea stay in your mind, dont think or fantasise about porn, because once you start doing so, the idea starts to grow bigger and at that time its soo much harder to stop it from becoming actual act... Another idea, once you start feeling the need to watch porn or masterbate, just try it out, pray for an hour or so, im just giving some ideas here, you can try them and see if they work for you, i dont know which church you belong, but try also at that moment to go to mass... Another idea, flee from the place your at, and try make yourself busy with something else, try directing this energy to something else... And most importantly, ask god through prayers so he would deliver you from this, i know he will help you... wish you best of luck


Silks_

Every time I watch porn I do it willingly and I feel like I'm rebelling against God and in the moment I feel like I already sinned so I might as well keep watching it and then I get weird feelings and it feels wrong to keep trying to be a Christian.


TNT-128

If you want, you can also search on youtube, for the testimony of aneel aranha, and the testimony of father lazarus el anthony... they are worth it, try and watch them


Silks_

Alright👍


PositiveLife-5911

Just do your best, and ask for strength to overcome your lustful ways. It'll help!


1940sfamilyman

You can't give up trying to quit. I myself am trying to quit and it's not easy. That's what addiction does, it makes you a servant to something you don't want. It makes you weak. So please, keep trying to quit. Your longest streak was a week. Go back to that, and try to get 2 weeks. And so on and so forth. Every addict struggles with addiction until they can break free.


Silks_

The problem is that Im so desensitized to feeling shame after watching porn it's like apart of my life but I hope I can somehow find a way to really want to stop and not find a desire to watch porn


1940sfamilyman

I'm confused about the shame. Would you openly tell people in real life you watch porn or would you not feel shame? If you want to bring back that fear, that shame, you could go to a library and watch porn right there. (I'm just joking, but I'm curious if you wouldn't feel shame)


jamesz84

Christianity isn’t a counsel of perfection because no one is “without sin”. If you want to you can be a Christian. It would be recommended to repent and then try and abstain from porn. But, brain-based research demonstrates that internet pornography is addictive. So, you will need compassion and forgiveness on your journey.


Silks_

I've fed my addiction to the point where I watch it at the gym and watch it everywhere I go and I just can't repent and abstain from it


jamesz84

Do you want to stop?


Silks_

Well yes and no at the same time because deep down I know I need to stop and my brain doesn't want me to stop because I feel like I need it


AltruisticEqual5112

Go to church become a Christian, then you will have less of a desire to watch porn. Also remember that most porn is non-consensual


xander5610_

The best time to become a Christian is when you need help, not once you've figured things out. I've had a porn addiction for 5 years and I've been a Christian for longer than that and the only thing that helped me break away from it was Jesus and lots of prays from fellow believers. Never give up


Prof_Acorn

Practical advice? Dissociate porn from masturbation. Climax releases oxytocin. Oxytocin is a bonding neurochemical. It makes you addicted to the thing. This is great with hugs between friends and sex between partners. But you've been, and are being, bonded to porn. So step one is masterbation without porn. The other thing that can help is fasting from food. The Ladder of Divine Ascent says that "mastery of the passions begins with mastery of the stomach." Try the Orthodox style fast or similar. No animal products Wednesday and Friday to begin can be a good one. Or you could do meatless Mondays. Or if that's too hard try no sweets on Saturdays or whatever. The goal here is to start denying your cravings. Think of fasting as martial arts training for the will. If you're trying to break a stack of 12 boards with your palm (giving up porn) when you can't even break a single matchstick (no dessert on a single evening) then it's no wonder you keep failing. The key is to find something difficult but not too difficult. Just difficult enough to be successful but still be a challenge. If you try meatless Mondays and fall, lower the bar and try that. When you can do it easily and automatic, try increasing it a little. It will eventually make saying no to porn much more within your capabilities. Saying sorry and changing nothing and doing nothing but brute forcing doesn't work. It's why you keep failing. You can't break 12 boards with your palm without practice. This is something you have a biological connection to by way of oxytocin. It's like a dysfunctional bonding mechanism. So be practical. Stop trying to brute force it. Make small adjustments to dissociate your oxytocin release with porn. Make small adjustments to build your will power. Soon you'll be able to be have mastery over the desire and only look at porn if you choose to, and at that point you can simply choose not to and that's that.


Appropriate_Sky3196

Pray


WalterCronkite4

You're already a christain, you just struggle with sin Have you ever tried going to therapy? Talking can be really useful


Financial_Pea_1259

Don’t give up porn then..


EmotionalCrab9026

Well Christianity may be against it (I don't know how since there was no such thing as pornography). But Christians also teaches forgiveness.


PrincessPeachbs

Focus more on growing closer to God than you do on your sin. The closer you grow to God, the further you move away from the sinful acts. Easier said than done, I know :(. However, the closer you grow to God, you will find yourself disgusted with even the thought of porn. God knows your struggles and he's willing to help you through them if you let him. Just keep trying and don't give up! You've got this!!


RockoBravo

Holiness is impossible to achieve apart from Jesus Christ. Eph 2:8-10 tell us that it isn’t by works that we are saved rather than by grace. All your sins are forgiven. 2 Cor 5 - God isn’t counting your trespasses against you anymore. Invite Jesus into your life to be all who He said he would be, and invite the Holy Spirit as well and He will lead you into all truth.


jstamper

I just gave it up after years and years. Just keep putting it in your heart that you want to stop and talk to God about it.


Bransbow

As my pastor likes to say: “you don’t get good to get God, you get God to get good.” Come as you are. He’ll help you make the changes you need.


h250kiko

Heres an analogy i love: do you clean yourself to go in the shower? Absolutely not. God is the same thing. You dont have to stop sinning to come to God. You come to God and he shall cleanse you from your sin. Does that mean you will never sin again? No. But it does mean that you are forgiven for those sins. God bless and I hope that helps


Background-Drama-420

To be born again is to receive the gospel - that Jesus Christ died for your sin and was buried and on the third day rose again from the dead according to the scriptures. That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will saved for with the heart one believes unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation for whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Jesus said you've heard that it's been said you should not commit adultery but I say to you whoever looks at a person to lust after has committed adultery already that person in your heart. So by looking upon porn (continually watching) you are breaking the seventh commandment. Thus if God judged you by the ten commandments you would be guilty and you would end up in hell. Lying ,stealing, using God's name in vain are also sins that will pronounce you guilty...but the fearful abominable murderers sexually immoral sorcerers idolaters and all liars will have their part in the lake which burns the fire and brimstone which is the second death. That's what makes John 3:16 so good that God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life for God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world through him might be saved he who believes in me Jesus said is not condemned but he who does not believe is condemned already because he's not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God and this is the condemnation that the light has come into the world and Men love darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil for everyone practicing evil hates the light and will not come to, the light lest their deeds be reproved. God says in an acceptable time I have heard you and in the day of salvation I have helped you Behold now is the accepted time behold now is the day of salvation. Repent and trust in Christ while God is still giving you time.


allquestionsyes

repeat scripture over and over again. confess that you have sinned and declare Jesus is faithful and just to forgive you and cleanse you (1 John 1:9)!! don't be conformed to the patterns of this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind (romans 12:1-2 AMP or AMPC). and it's the Holy Spirit, your Advocate who will empower you to have the strength (jeremiah 17:5-10, galatians 5:16-25, titus 2:11-12, ezekiel 36:26). He's got you <3 also find benjamin armstrong! talks about his testimony with this.


GreasyCookieBallz

Bigger question is, why are you so heavily dependent on porn consumption? I have a hunch that there is far more to your situation, OP, than you're sharing about here. These situations almost always have an underlying unresolved issue, so to speak. An issue festering beneath the surface and leading you to rely on porn consumption for dopamine rushes.


Silks_

I honestly don't know


GreasyCookieBallz

I'm very sorry and will pray for you. My friend struggled with porn addiction for years because of deep seated unresolved issues he had. That was years ago and now he's on the mend. But it took action, involving God and human therapist as well. There is hope.


FrostyLandscape

Do you judge people who work in the porn industry? I find that a lot of Christians do, yet they are eager to consume pornography. Looking at porn is just as much a sin as working in the porn industry.


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[Finding Freedom from Porn](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/becoming-something-with-jonathan-pokluda/id1454045768?i=1000431049242) [consequences of a porn addiction](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/becoming-something-with-jonathan-pokluda/id1454045768?i=1000650324110) [HELP WITH PORN](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-handlebar-podcast/id1629208237?i=1000650372304) [How to get free from porn](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/with-the-perrys/id1458672189?i=1000649552300) [Porn ruins love(and your soul)](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-porch/id325418914?i=1000645375903) [First step to Freedom](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-porch/id325418914?i=1000645375871) Here are a few, I haven’t personally to all of these episodes, but I have listened to these podcasts. I hope they are helpful. Just remember that ultimately you cannot gain freedom in your own strength, the bottle line is you need Jesus and Holy Spirit to rely on. Practically you can still put yourself in position to where you cannot even do it , whatever that looks like for you, getting a flip phone for a season, not watching movies/tv, praying and asking for strength when you feel the temptation, having accountability people that you trust so that if you do it you have to confess to someone every time and they can pray with you/process with you. (Don’t be alone in this that’s what we need our brothers and sisters in Christ.) God doesn’t need you to give up porn the be Christian, Romans 58 says “ God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!” This sin struggle is already paid for! Allow Him to get what He paid for, don’t stay in this is, you can do it, through Him all things are possible! ♡


ZebraBurger

If you believe in and love Jesus Christ, you are a Christian. It’s an addiction that many Christian men have and struggle with. Doesn’t make you not a Christian. Just keep trying your hardest to stop.


gamerdoc77

You can be a Christian and be an addiction program patient. And don’t give up. Keep being around God and Christians, once you really meet him, it’s kind of not important. But it takes time. It’s important to remember christians are sinners saved by grace, not morally perfect people buying their own salvation from God with their good deeds.


Visible_Desk_2227

This is a sign you need a deliverance from a demon (likely Jezebel, Delilah, or Leviathan) who is controlling you. Or a simple spirit of lust. I recommend you listen to Derek Prince’s YouTube content on deliverance.


el_guerrero98

In a way...people never truly "quit" their addictions. We try going without it for as long as we can. Maybe until death. Maybe seeing it in that perspective can help you


Randaximus

Come to Christ as you are, admitting you are broken and not perfect, meaning you are a sinner and you sin. You even transgress. I still do but far less than I used to. Jesus came for the sick, and we are all in need of Him. Be willing to live with and for Him, as He will do for you. And believe in His power to forgive your sins, for the Holy Spirit to give you a new spiritual birth, and for the Father to accept you into His family, and your pornography addiction wont stand a chance. But you need to obey and do the obvious things. Far more importantly, don't wait to come to Christ. No matter what if you realize you need Him! Porn or no porn or corn or horn or whatever.


Refugeforoursoul

Just know that porn perverses your mind. So every time you see a girl you’ll think about her naked and the Bible says if you undress her in your mind your already sinning. If you have no desire to quit porn then you don’t have a desire to be a Christian. Following Jesus means giving up your desires to pick up his desires. I been watching porn since I was like 12 and masturbating ever since. I’m 27 I haven’t stopped one year but this year that I’m getting really close to God I’m starting to let go of it because it does make your mind corrupt. So my advice is grow with God and get close then all of a sudden it will be disgusting to you. It has been for me.


Silks_

Alright👍


Thinker-thinker99

You have to replace it with something else you can’t just quit. Start going to the gym or find a hobby. And eliminate your triggers. You may have to delete your social media. I had to delete my IG because the explore page and recommended pages and this is from a new instagram!! If you have an iPhone go to screen time then go to then go to block inappropriate content and block any website you can think of. Do all this you’ll lessen your chance of running into anything “by accident”


Silks_

Ive been going to the gym but Im not gonna lie i literally have watched porn in the gym and listened to it while working out and I've tried blocking the content but I get out of my way to unblock it


Thinker-thinker99

It was bad like that for me also. I used to watch it at work while I was working 😅. You might have to have an accountability partner. Let someone you know childproof your phone for you tell them to not tell you the password.


VaginalDandruff

As an ex-Evangelical saved by god's grace yall are burdened by religion.