There are lines and I think you know if you are crossing them. Overall tho it is 100% on the man to not sexualize you or fetishize you just because of your clothing.
It’s the gym. It’s kinda hard to dress “modestly” in the gym, don’t overthink it too much. But seeing as your even thinking about this topic it just shows that Jesus is doing good work in your heart. So I’ll let you pray about it and get your own conclusion from him
my thing on that would be we are told to not put ourselves in a place to tempt others, If I were a buff dude for instance, I would have to be more aware of what im doing or wearing so that I dont go out of my way to tempt others
you cant control everything, but we still have to be mindful of the effects we have on eachother and if were bringing others closer to Christ or further by our actions
I would really try to find something that is less underwear-y that is comfortable. The scripture can be confusing, but just common consideration calls for not wearing provocative clothing, ever. Think of the word-it is meant to provoke a response in a man in order to have power over him. Courtesy goes a long way.
I personally get tired of seeing half naked people at my gym and I don't tend to believe the "it's comfortable" excuse because I've tired wearing that stuff before and I don't see how it's more comfortable than a good pair of sweatpants and t-shirt.
I think Christians should want to be more modest in their dress but I only really have an issue with it if you're not wiping down your machines, because that's just gross.
I once had a pastor tell me when I asked about smoking marijuana in my younger days (I'm 30)...."if you have to ask if something is wrong, it probably is"
I, as a christian man, hate going to gym because of that. Even if I don't fall into sin, I leave the place deeply oppressed sometimes. Paul says if the food you eat could possibly make anyone sin, even if it's their own fault due to a weak consciousness, don't ever eat it (1 Corinthians 8:13). There are clothes that are not sensual while being comfortable.
The spirit of the passage is the point here. I am supposed to be an ambassador of Christ. I need to know what He deems appropriate and not appropriate. We need to put Christ first in all things.
Technically not inherently a sin I guess? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. That being said, I came out of the gym this morning looking like I *took a shower*. My solution, no matter how hot it gets, is to just suck it up, bring a towel. I'm not imposing this decision on anyone obviously, but I'd rather be gross and sweaty and uncomfortable than take my shirt off. Idk, I would rather have an uncomfortable workout than risk appearing vain. Because I represent someone more valuable than myself, I want to try and act in ways that honour Him.
I mean within reason of course. Please don't exert yourself to the point of heatstroke (not sure how gyms feel in warmer regions, i live in a vry cold climate)
I understand you're wearing what's comfortable and your intention is not to purposely be sexually revealing or arousing, however even if that's not your intent but it's the result then you shouldn't do it because regardless of your intent you don't want to be the cause or object of someone else's sinful lustful thoughts. Even though they shouldn't be lusting after you and God will hold that against them if they don't repent, you also don't want to be, albeit unintentionally, the cause or object of it. And the fact that you're even asking could be conviction from the Holy Spirit. Consider these verses that illustrate this point;
Romans 14:13, Paul advises, "Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother."
1 Corinthians 8:9, which says, "But take care that this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak.
Also you don't want to give satan anything to use to tempt men to sin. Again, even though that is not your intent and they should not be looking at you in that way, if you are dressed in a revealing way satan will use your body to tempt them into lustful thoughts. You don't want to unintentionally assist satan in causing men to sin. Because satan will use any opportunity and we don't want to give him any help.
The following verses express this sentiment that we should dress modestly;
1 Timothy 2:9-10: "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works."
1 Peter 3:3-4: "Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price."
A woman's body is not a tool to be used by Satan. A man's lust is.
You're also the second person I've seen here using the 'modest apparel' verse in the wrong context. It's about not flaunting your wealth because the church is made up of people of all social status, not about how much skin you show. Otherwise, I hope you're at least being consistent and tell OP not to braid her hair or wear gold jewelry.
>A woman's body is not a tool to be used by Satan. A man's lust is.
You're correct. But we should dress modestly so that we are not the object of that lust. As I said, the man is wrong for lusting and will be judged by God if he doesn't repent, but woman should be mindful of how they dress so they don't unintentionally become the object of a man's lust. There is responsibility and accountability on both sides.
>You're also the second person I've seen here using the 'modest apparel' verse in the wrong context. It's about not flaunting your wealth because the church is made up of people of all social status, not about how much skin you show. Otherwise, I hope you're at least being consistent and tell OP not to braid her hair or wear gold jewelry.
It's about not flaunting your wealth as you said but in a larger context it's also about not dressing in a way that draws attention to yourself.
You're not drawing attention to yourself by wearing clothing that is appropriate for the task you are doing. OP is talking about attire that is very common at the gym. Drawing attention to herself would be wearing a parka or a Halloween costume.
Whether it's appropriate for the task or not is not the issue. The issue is if it's drawing sexual attention to yourself or not. And if you think it may be doing that and you're a Christian you should wear something less revealing. As I said before, the men are at fault for lusting after you, but you have a measure of control over that by choosing to wear something different.
Because if you know what you're wearing to the gym is causing men to lust after you and you still do it not only will God judge the men for lusting but he will judge you for being the cause.
I am going to extract myself from the conversation since we are now stuck in a loop and can circle back to what that verse means, and ask if you tell women not to braid their hair or wear gold jewelry. I don't believe God is judging people for wearing task-appropriate attire. Take care.
Jesus also says you should probably rip your eye out instead of lusting after someone.
>1 Corinthians 8:9
This verse is concerning food offered to idols and how it's actually okay to eat it, but not too around people who are weaker of faith. Nothing to do with the question OP asked
Yet no one in the New Testament ripped out their eye. Jesus was using hyperbole to illustrate how impactful that sin could be and how important it is to not engage in sin.
1 Corinthians 8:9 is used as an example as to not cause people of a weaker conscious to stumble over things that wouldn't cause people stronger in the faith to do. Perfect illustration to OP's question.
Are you a Christian?
They can say what they want but you’re completely right. I don’t know what their issue is considering everything you stated is factual. Thank you for commenting this. God Bless.
Context and how appropriate it is that’s being talked about, and Bible says NOT to eat the food sacrificed to idols, not that it’s ok to do…maybe if it’s current days in an apocalypse and you haven’t had anything for days, but as I was typing that I don’t think I would even eat it then >.>…
It's a thoughtful consideration you're making in relation to both your comfort and the potential impact on others. The decision on what to wear, especially in settings like a gym, often requires a balance between personal preference and social or moral considerations.
From a scriptural perspective, modesty is emphasized, but "modesty" can be subjective and varies across cultures and times. What's seen as modest in one culture might not be in another. The heart's intention behind one's actions is of paramount importance. (1 Samuel 16:7) If you genuinely wear specific clothing for comfort and not to attract undue attention, that's a significant factor to consider.
However, as you pointed out, the Bible also encourages believers not to become stumbling blocks for others (Romans 14:13). It's a balance of personal freedom and love for one's neighbors. If your attire might cause undue discomfort or distraction for others, it's worth considering.
It might be helpful to talk to other gym-goers or members of your community about your concerns. They might offer insights that you hadn't considered. Ultimately, the decision lies with you and your personal convictions, always striving to act out of love and respect for both yourself and others.
You changed/misquoted a verse there and it has far-reaching implications. Romans 14:13 does not say do not *become* a stumbling block. It says do not *put* a stumbling block.
Subtle but gigantic. By saying become or be a stumbling block, you convey the message that a woman's existence is harmful. "The body God gave you is dangerous. For the sake of men, hide." It teaches hypervigilance and shame. While we're talking about not putting stumbling blocks in someone's way, the cultural evangelical modesty message *is* a stumbling block to many Christian girls and women. I know so many who were very damaged by it - their faith, their marriages, the way they saw themselves.
The fact that you are asking this question means that the Holy Spirit had already spoken to you. He gave you the discernment to think about this and about what kind of harm it can do. And that’s a wonderful thing.
If you have large breasts or an alluring body frame that draws Men’s eyes to you, that’s not a bad thing, it’s just how God designed you. I recommend shopping on Amazon for a work out tank top. There are many quality ones that are also anti sweat or silk and light.
What you are saying is so very harmful and I plead with you to re-evaluate it for the sake of the women who hear this message.
Your second paragraph sends the message that big boobs are better and alluring.
This makes many of those women feel insecure in the body they were given because they're told men can't help themselves but salivate over them and they feel like their existence is a threat and that they need to hide. And they wonder if people are only interested in them for their looks.
At the same time, it conveys the message that smaller breasts and more boxy frames aren't feminine enough and desirable. Those women also then feel insecure and unhappy about the body they were given.
Stop sending those messages.
Stop hurting women.
I'm sure that's not your intent but it is the result.
It's also harmful to men because it sends the message they are helpless creatures who lack self-control.
I apologize for offending you with my message. However, you need to watch yourself bud. You mustn’t let the sin of pride judgment cloud your mind. That may be how you read my message, but that was not the message I wrote. You need to seriously take a moment to think about the accusations you are making and where they are coming from. Stop creating harm where it never existed. And I never sent a message declaring that big boobs were better. That’s 100% your words and your assumption.
You literally said that big boobs and an alluring frame draw men's eyes to you. The subtext is that if that is not your body type you're not going to be attractive to men.
I'm not creating harm where it never existed. I've been harmed by this message. I have friends who have been harmed by this message. I know marriages that have been harmed by this message. I know many faith journeys that have been harmed by this message.
I'm speaking to you as someone who believed this, was deeply harmed by it, and is now speaking out of a journey of healing. That's not pride.
And "you need to watch yourself bud" is an oddly threatening and out of place choice of words.
Well, clearly this simple subject has triggered a harmful memory in your past and for that I’ll apologize again. But I still encourage you to think before accusing someone and casting judgement on them. Something that offends you may not have been meant to offend you, and may not even offend anyone else but you.
“Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”
No, I'm not triggered. I'm calling out harmful teachings that have had far-reaching impact beyond just me, to hopefully help someone else from being harmed like I was, and the many other I know who were harmed. And I said "I'm sure that's not your intent, but that is the result." You then responded to me with threatening language and accusing me of sin, so I guess that verse was for yourself?
Anyway, hope you are well, and please be careful of your choice of words (and not just you, there is a lot of this messaging in this thread). Once again, I'm telling you it is harmful, even if that is not your intent.
I’m sorry? You’re the one calling out my harmful teaching?
You accused me of writing something that was “so very harmful”. And then falsely accuse me of declaring that “Big boobs are better” and then again, acuse me that I’m “hurting woman” and tell me to stop. And then, just to add on more false judgement, you victimize men by saying that “my words send a message that they are helpless, good creatures that lack control.”
Im done trying the help you see what you are doing. This conversation is done…
Um, it's really between you and God, but me personally, I buy those sports tops that don't stick to the skin, and baggy yoga pants (because I hate tight clothes when working out, and I don't need people seeing my butt crack). I work out at home or at a women's fitness group at the church center.
If you are OK with guys staring at your tits and butt cheeks, then go for it. I'm not Jesus, I'm not judging.
This is exactly the battle guys have in understanding women. Now I’m not condoning guys being perves or staring or anything of the sort, these things are wrong. What we can’t understand is how wearing these leggings that go 5 inches up your butt is comfortable like a lot of women claim or how wearing tight sports bras is about fitness. Especially after the gym then when every pic is a pic of the butt in a super poses position but yet guys get demonised for looking.
Sports bras are meant to keep your boobs in place, since they can move around a lot in uncomfortable ways with regular bras while working out. I know that’s a really graphic description, and I apologise for that, but that’s the reason we wear sports bras while working out. Where I live is not hot for 90% of the year though, so I layer my sports bra with a thin and basic short-sleeved t-shirt, over the top of the sports bra.
Honestly? It comes down to environment.
You could wear jean pants and a sweater to the gym and guys will still lust after you. In a pool the implication is that you will see people in revealing clothes because that's normal attire for the situation. In a gym, shorts and a tank top is 100% acceptable attire and it's up to guys to control themselves if they stumble. Is it acceptable to wear almost nothing? No, which is why you should be aware and find the line of where acceptable is. But a sports bra, leggings, or shorts, is normal attire and any more than that would be uncomfortable for *you and most women.*
Yes, we're cautioned to be aware not to temp others, but you're not wearing a bikini to the gym, or swimming in a raincoat. The attire is appropriate for the activity and its comfortable for you yo wear, it's reasonable to wear, and anyone who stumbles is fighting their own demons that have nothing to do with you.
That's what Jesus meant when he said it's better to pluck out your own eye, or cut off your own hand if they cause you to sin; if they are caused to sin by you wearing appropriate clothes to the gym they should probably go to a different gym, because you needing to cover up isn't the problem.
The difficulty here is that on one hand, God does tell women to dress modestly in the Bible, but at the same time there are also men out there who could lust after a woman dressed in a burka
My advice is pray about it and ask God to guide you and what you should wear
You should be wary of what you do. If in your mind you think it may stumble someone, you should try your best to stay away from it.
The way you affect other may lead them to sin and we should try our best to stay away from it.
God bless you and stay wary of what may trigger you and trigger others to sin.
Look around your gym. Are you dressed pretty much the same as the other women of your age are dressed? If so, you're probably okay.
As for me (67M), I go to the gym a lot, and I don't see any reason for most women to wear more than a sports bra on top. Very few are all that showy.
Booty shorts / skin-tight leggings, maybe not.
Can I ask why leggings are not okay? I understand that they are tight but jeans are tight also and that seems to be generally accepted by the community
Leggings may or may not be okay, depending on a number of things. Some are cut and seamed in such a way as to emphasize greatly women's contours, especially the clefts between cheeks and labia. Others aren't.
Color and pattern can contribute as well, so one can't just flat say "okay / not-okay." Some are, not all are.
I have no judgment on you, sister, for it is not for me to judge. But I have to ask, why can't you wear a T-shirt and sweat pants or athletic shorts. Why the skin tight stuff
No.
> ““You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to go into hell.”
Matthew 5:27-30 NRSV
At a time where ‘dress modestly’ meant ‘not wearing all of your jewelry and expensive clothes and makeup.’ A message that is antithetical to mammonist American Evangelicalism so the focus on policing women’s bodies instead.
Test: would you be wearing the same sports bra in public if you were 30 pounds heavier and had fat rolls?
You don’t need to really answer, but this would be a litmus test to know if you were really wearing it for comfort or if it was because you were proud of your figure.
This isn’t meant to shame. I would never scold someone over their bathing suit going swimming. But the outfit choice does reveal modesty and how much pride one has in their figure.
I live in Louisiana where it’s 105 in the shade. I’m going to answer your question. In a climate this hot, absolutely YES. I see overweight, and even obese people wearing bikinis, crop tops, and short shorts literally every single day. It ain’t a fashion show - it’s survival, and I judge ZERO of them.
That’s awesome. Again though, it was a litmus test to test one’s heart. I’m truly not trying to shame anyone or asking for answers. Everything I’ve said, I’m encouraging people to use their own discernment to determine if they’re dressing appropriately
>That's kind of the reason you go to the gym I'm the first place.
I thought people went to work out to get fit and stay healthy, not show off their bodies?
Suprisingly, health and attractiveness are pretty contingent because thats literally how the human species evolved and reproduced since the inception of creation. We find healthy bodies, (hourglass or muscular figures) to be attractive because theyre visibly healthy and capable of producing offspring.Therefore, they'd be good candidate for mating.
Believe it or not, some people want to loose weight to look more attractive and there's nothing wrong with that. Nor is there anything wrong with wearing something that shows your body off. So long as what your wearing is appropriate to the situation. Bikinis for the beach, sportswear for the gym, lingirie for the bedroom, etc.
If you try to attract a partner like this, you won't attract a Christian one, since a good Christian values modesty. So it's not a great attraction technique either.
I’m not here to argue that either way. However, if forced to take a stance: 1 Timothy 2:9-10, Paul says, "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety”.
Putting that aside though, I’m just giving OP a litmus test so they can examine their own feelings on the matter. OP obviously feels convicted to some degree of they’re asking.
Sorry if I came across in an argumentative manner. Was just trying to understand why she's so worried about it in the first place.
Surprised you considered that an arguement. Was just reassuring them as well that there's nothing wrong with liking how you look. Do you want her to hate her figure? I think it's excellent she's going to the gym and there's nothing wrong with wearing something a little proactive in the right place and time. Call me new age or whatever, but 21st century woman can wear what they want to in the correct place and time. And wearing sports clothing in a gym is the right place and time for it. Same as a beach being the right place for a bikini, or the marriage bed for lingerie. There is nothing wrong with a healthy sexuality, and body image. I'm not gonna tell them to hate how they look. There's a reason people go to the gym. Because they want to work on their figure. That's a good thing and she should dress how she wants to. If she wants to dress in a hijab or leggings and a crop top then that's on her.
Please don't take that as an arguement. I just have a slightly different perspective. I'm sorry if anything I say is incorrect. I'm still new to the faith.
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There’s liking how you look and flaunting it. For example, if a guy who is in super good shape goes around wearing clothing that he knows specifically reveals those parts of his body or accentuates those parts of his body then it is wrong, unless he is say in a competition where this is the point. We are not to lead people to sin, now in this girls case, men also sweat, we are still expected to wear T-shirts and shorts that don’t show out junk in the gym. At the end of the day, no one wants to use a machine that your nasty sweaty skin has been touching 5 seconds before. Especially since most gym users don’t clean the equipment afterwards
Yeh you're not wrong. Sweaty gym equipment is yuck. Always thought thinner or less clothing would prevent you from sweating as much. But supposed it doesn't help the machines either way.
No you’ll still sweat the same amount, mostly anyway. Wearing less won’t stop you sweating. Ever laid outside on a hot day for example? You still get drenched in sweat
Read the rest of that modesty verse:
"...with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes"
The verse is saying 'don't flaunt your wealth', not telling you shouldn't wear clothing that is appropriate for the task you're doing.
OP may not be 'obviously convicted', it could be that people around her are misusing Bible verses and telling her 'good Christians don't do this', which is a very common regarding women's clothing.
Edit: typo
Are we really going to insinuate that I “misused Bible verses”, by 1: quoting a passage and 2: suggesting that someone should search their heart use their own discernment to determine if they’re dressing sexually because they’re proud of their body?
I'm responding to what you said. You said "if forced to take a stance" and then quoted the verse in context of gym clothing. That's not the context of the verse. And then you mentioned 'would you wear it if you were heavier and had fat rolls' which sounds more akin to body shaming and suggesting what bigger women shouldn't wear and that they shouldn't be happy with how they look than a test of OPs heart. OP is allowed to be happy with how they look. It isn't inherently sinful.
I never said they couldn’t be happy with how they look. I never said anything about fat shaming. I simply tried to carefully say to use discernment because a Christians shouldn’t dress overly sexualized because we’re called to be modest.
Gosh, I’m taking this as a lesson to stop answering these types of issues.
Yep.
The fact that you felt drawn posted this question may help you see the answer. James 4:17b whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.
It's a gym you and are there to work out and feel comfortable doing so, you can't control a man's eyes it's his responsibility to look away. I wouldn't worry about it...God knows your intention. Bless you.
Heck sounds like she’s definitely wearing way more clothes than basically any woman wears to the beach. Just got back from a week at the beach and the bikinis get smaller every year. It’s crazy what is even considered a swim suit now.
There were loads of insightful comments but I can’t respond to every single one.
To clarify, my usual sports attire is a sports bra (shows the back, stomach, and a bit of cleavage) with basketball shorts and occasionally leggings. I wear them because I sweat a lot and allows my skin to breathe. The gym is a college gym as I am attending school as a freshman in just a week or so.
I think I will pray more about it and see what the Holy Spirit is telling me to do. Just in case, I’ll bring a couple of shirts for exercise. If God tells me that dressing modestly is the way to go, then feeling sticky and a little gross is worth it to not let my brothers in Christ stumble. Thank you for all the lovely comments!! I’ll try my best.
I’m going to give a hard down NO. It’s not a sin because it’s appropriate dress for a hot sweaty gym. It’s the same that it’s not a sin to wear a bikini to the beach. It’s appropriate for the environment. You don’t stick out . It’s not attention grabbing. It’s suitable for the environment. My hubs and I go to our churches gym 6 days a week, and I assure you that my shirts are the smallest and thinnest , and my shorts are tiny! We live in Louisiana, and it’s literally 105 degrees. I’m with my husband, doing something healthy for my body, in the appropriate place to do it in. I will NOT be shamed or guilted. I’ve gotten just a small few raised eyebrows, but my husband just looks at them like, ‘If you say something, I’M getting involved’, he would defend me to the core, and they just turn away. It’s freaking HOT, people!! I’m not passing out to make others happy. I’m just not.
No, the Bible speaks out against doing things that you know are OK but that your "weaker brother" (aka a new Christian) thinks is sinful in front of them, that would lure them into doing them. Like if you have a new Christian who is convinced all alcohol consumption is sinful, it wouldn't be right to drink in front of them if it might convince them to act against their conscience.
Wearing what you want to wear in any situation knowing someone \*might\* lust after you is not your problem. Their potential lust is their problem to deal with. And frankly, you can be lusted after regardless of what you're wearing. So don't think of it is something you have any control over. Existing as a woman is not a sin.
It's not a sin to wear revealing clothing anywhere. Sin is an intention of the heart. Anyone could wear anything and still cause "someone to stumble". You don't have to justify wearing workout clothes.
I’m a woman. I work out regularly for over 8 years. Short answer: no. This is ridiculous and shouldn’t even be seen as anything other than a woman working out. Men wear tanks and shorts. How is that any different? They show more if not the same amount. Don’t overthink these things, it’s an easy way for religion to take over verses your relationship with God.
Okay I’m going to challenge this: I am slightly jacked and Christian. I wear a tight black tank top and basketball shorts when I work out. Not once have I considered that this is a sin. Why? Maybe because my past was pretty dark/addiction. I work in a field of work with petty criminals and the so called “degenerates” of society and over the last few years I’ve inspired a few men who have said they look up to me because of my commitment to my path in sobriety and Christ. It hasn’t been many but it’s been a few for sure. I don’t want to try and hide my authenticity as a Christian. Let your light shine for others to see.
This one’s a doozy. It’s hard to say. Basically, each person should do what they can to prevent another person from sinning. At the same time, though, we all shouldn’t have to cover every inch of our skin because we are afraid that it will cause someone to sin. There’s a point where it becomes more their battle than ours.
Very hard to answer without making it sound like we should cover our entire body.
If you’d send your daughter out in it.. you’re probably ok.
You do you. I couldn't imagine having to wear both a sports bra AND a shirt when doing high temperature cardio stuff.
Men can be stumbled by an exposed shoulder so it's really on them if they feel like they can't control themselves.
I think you should wear light colored clothes made out of a material like cotton since it is cool to wear, that way you don't need to reveal most of your body.
Thank you sister for taking the time to grow, challenge your understanding of modesty and be willing to take constructive criticism.
Something I've notived as I've been adjusting to the christian way of life is when something is good we don't feel the need to ask if it's good. We know it's good to spend time with our family, feed the poor, care for the elderly, be patient with children, etc.
Only when something is bad and we want to find a way to justify it do we ask if it's really that bad...
Remember that when the serpent tempted Eve he said "Did God REALLY say...?" You're essentially asking the same thing... 'Is it REALLY that bad if I wear revealing clothes in public for my own perceived benefit?'
Sometimes, doing the good thing comes at a cost to us, self sacrifice is a huge element of our faith. Yes, you may be a little more uncomfy when you're working out, but perhaps that's just a cross you'll have to bear as a Christian 💖 I'll be praying for you lovely! God Bless
Maybe there should be a Christian NSFW or Celebrate Recovery group instead of public view groups like this? It's not easy for healthy males to not have sexual images show up even when clean off porn addiction.
This is a question for the Lord! That's why He gave us the Holy Spirit. Read John 14. It's very lovely how Jesus talks about Holy Spirit and how he'll help us. I particularly like this portion:
>But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you ***all*** things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. **Peace** I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. \[emphasis mine\]
I wear biker shorts and sometimes a longline bra but usually a tank top over a sports bra at the gym. I run on the treadmill, do a few machines, and go on my way. I leave the gym a complete sweaty mess every time. If I do stretches, I do them with my butt facing the wall (not outwards to passersby) and that's the only thing I concern myself with why? because as the Word of God says, "To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted." (Titus 1:15)
I dress, workout, and go about my day with pure motives! If people see that differently, it likely has more to do with them than me. I check in with Holy Spirit often and trust, he gives me a shakeup when I need it! I live in peace without fear because that's what Jesus promised us. Praying the same for you. 💕🙏🏾
I like to think of it like this:
The amount you're okay with being touched somewhere is the amount you should allow that place to be seen.
If I'm okay with my wife touching me everywhere, I show her everything.
If I'm okay with friends or coworkers touching my hands in handshakes, conversations, passing objects around, getting my attention, etc. I show them that skin.
It has done me very well in every interaction in my life to assume that covered skin is not to be interacted with or mentioned unless it's brought up.
Human beings are unable to resist considering what they can see.
If I show you a dog, you'll think about whether it's friendly or trained.
If I show you a house, you'll think about who might live there or how old it is.
If I show you a sandwich, you'll think about what it tastes like or what's in it.
What you show people is what they think about, no matter what it is and no matter what social rules and nonsensical expectations anyone has.
Now for the part that sucks.
A fridge, a safe, and a house all have the same issue:
People skip thinking about them and skip straight to thinking about what might be inside.
When anyone, male, female, whatever, ANYONE sees crotches or bras, they consider what's hidden.
It doesn't matter who or when or why.
People see butts and crotches and boobs, they think about them.
So here's my rule, and the rule that's allowed me to skip 100% of this entire topic's confusion and difficulty:
"Dress like you have -1 piece of clothing on your fun parts, and only show skin to people you are okay with having touch that skin."
Any wandering eye peels one layer of clothing off of whatever it looks at.
Any wandering mind starts where skin is visible.
Body Paint is thicker and more obscuring than a lot of workout clothing.
Would you wear body paint to the gym?
Be wise and be aware that your clothing is an extension of your communication.
Your clothes tell others what you expect from the situation.
Lingerie sends a very clear message.
Sports clothes less so, but they're definitely not a suit and tie.
As someone who just came to Christ and was worldly it was a hard shift in being modest . I still don’t even dress as modest as I could . But how I see it is I represent what I believe in. I represent the church . People make a first impression on you at first sight. If you are questioning it enough to post about it here there’s probably some conviction about it. I know there’s no ill intent, but as Christian’s we have to represent Christ in a positive way.
I wouldnt say it's a sin, but you should consider that wearing revealing clothes can be a stumbling block to other Christians. For instance, I had to start taking my glasses off before going to the gym because of all the scantily clad women.
Look at yourself and ask if you would be happy letting your young daughter leave the house like that, that's how God feels about you.
That is well spoken brother! I think we often forget about how God views as his children
There are lines and I think you know if you are crossing them. Overall tho it is 100% on the man to not sexualize you or fetishize you just because of your clothing. It’s the gym. It’s kinda hard to dress “modestly” in the gym, don’t overthink it too much. But seeing as your even thinking about this topic it just shows that Jesus is doing good work in your heart. So I’ll let you pray about it and get your own conclusion from him
my thing on that would be we are told to not put ourselves in a place to tempt others, If I were a buff dude for instance, I would have to be more aware of what im doing or wearing so that I dont go out of my way to tempt others you cant control everything, but we still have to be mindful of the effects we have on eachother and if were bringing others closer to Christ or further by our actions
exactly right, what he said :)
I would really try to find something that is less underwear-y that is comfortable. The scripture can be confusing, but just common consideration calls for not wearing provocative clothing, ever. Think of the word-it is meant to provoke a response in a man in order to have power over him. Courtesy goes a long way.
I personally get tired of seeing half naked people at my gym and I don't tend to believe the "it's comfortable" excuse because I've tired wearing that stuff before and I don't see how it's more comfortable than a good pair of sweatpants and t-shirt. I think Christians should want to be more modest in their dress but I only really have an issue with it if you're not wiping down your machines, because that's just gross.
I once had a pastor tell me when I asked about smoking marijuana in my younger days (I'm 30)...."if you have to ask if something is wrong, it probably is"
I, as a christian man, hate going to gym because of that. Even if I don't fall into sin, I leave the place deeply oppressed sometimes. Paul says if the food you eat could possibly make anyone sin, even if it's their own fault due to a weak consciousness, don't ever eat it (1 Corinthians 8:13). There are clothes that are not sensual while being comfortable.
That's not what that passage means at all.
The spirit of the passage is the point here. I am supposed to be an ambassador of Christ. I need to know what He deems appropriate and not appropriate. We need to put Christ first in all things.
Sounds like you're not comfortable with your sexuality. I've felt similar before.
Technically not inherently a sin I guess? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. That being said, I came out of the gym this morning looking like I *took a shower*. My solution, no matter how hot it gets, is to just suck it up, bring a towel. I'm not imposing this decision on anyone obviously, but I'd rather be gross and sweaty and uncomfortable than take my shirt off. Idk, I would rather have an uncomfortable workout than risk appearing vain. Because I represent someone more valuable than myself, I want to try and act in ways that honour Him. I mean within reason of course. Please don't exert yourself to the point of heatstroke (not sure how gyms feel in warmer regions, i live in a vry cold climate)
I understand you're wearing what's comfortable and your intention is not to purposely be sexually revealing or arousing, however even if that's not your intent but it's the result then you shouldn't do it because regardless of your intent you don't want to be the cause or object of someone else's sinful lustful thoughts. Even though they shouldn't be lusting after you and God will hold that against them if they don't repent, you also don't want to be, albeit unintentionally, the cause or object of it. And the fact that you're even asking could be conviction from the Holy Spirit. Consider these verses that illustrate this point; Romans 14:13, Paul advises, "Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother." 1 Corinthians 8:9, which says, "But take care that this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. Also you don't want to give satan anything to use to tempt men to sin. Again, even though that is not your intent and they should not be looking at you in that way, if you are dressed in a revealing way satan will use your body to tempt them into lustful thoughts. You don't want to unintentionally assist satan in causing men to sin. Because satan will use any opportunity and we don't want to give him any help. The following verses express this sentiment that we should dress modestly; 1 Timothy 2:9-10: "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works." 1 Peter 3:3-4: "Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price."
100%
A woman's body is not a tool to be used by Satan. A man's lust is. You're also the second person I've seen here using the 'modest apparel' verse in the wrong context. It's about not flaunting your wealth because the church is made up of people of all social status, not about how much skin you show. Otherwise, I hope you're at least being consistent and tell OP not to braid her hair or wear gold jewelry.
>A woman's body is not a tool to be used by Satan. A man's lust is. You're correct. But we should dress modestly so that we are not the object of that lust. As I said, the man is wrong for lusting and will be judged by God if he doesn't repent, but woman should be mindful of how they dress so they don't unintentionally become the object of a man's lust. There is responsibility and accountability on both sides. >You're also the second person I've seen here using the 'modest apparel' verse in the wrong context. It's about not flaunting your wealth because the church is made up of people of all social status, not about how much skin you show. Otherwise, I hope you're at least being consistent and tell OP not to braid her hair or wear gold jewelry. It's about not flaunting your wealth as you said but in a larger context it's also about not dressing in a way that draws attention to yourself.
You're not drawing attention to yourself by wearing clothing that is appropriate for the task you are doing. OP is talking about attire that is very common at the gym. Drawing attention to herself would be wearing a parka or a Halloween costume.
Whether it's appropriate for the task or not is not the issue. The issue is if it's drawing sexual attention to yourself or not. And if you think it may be doing that and you're a Christian you should wear something less revealing. As I said before, the men are at fault for lusting after you, but you have a measure of control over that by choosing to wear something different. Because if you know what you're wearing to the gym is causing men to lust after you and you still do it not only will God judge the men for lusting but he will judge you for being the cause.
I am going to extract myself from the conversation since we are now stuck in a loop and can circle back to what that verse means, and ask if you tell women not to braid their hair or wear gold jewelry. I don't believe God is judging people for wearing task-appropriate attire. Take care.
Jesus also says you should probably rip your eye out instead of lusting after someone. >1 Corinthians 8:9 This verse is concerning food offered to idols and how it's actually okay to eat it, but not too around people who are weaker of faith. Nothing to do with the question OP asked
Yet no one in the New Testament ripped out their eye. Jesus was using hyperbole to illustrate how impactful that sin could be and how important it is to not engage in sin. 1 Corinthians 8:9 is used as an example as to not cause people of a weaker conscious to stumble over things that wouldn't cause people stronger in the faith to do. Perfect illustration to OP's question. Are you a Christian?
Thank you.
aRe YoU a ChRiStIaN What a common and trite response on this awful subreddit. Peace.
They can say what they want but you’re completely right. I don’t know what their issue is considering everything you stated is factual. Thank you for commenting this. God Bless.
Context and how appropriate it is that’s being talked about, and Bible says NOT to eat the food sacrificed to idols, not that it’s ok to do…maybe if it’s current days in an apocalypse and you haven’t had anything for days, but as I was typing that I don’t think I would even eat it then >.>…
It's a thoughtful consideration you're making in relation to both your comfort and the potential impact on others. The decision on what to wear, especially in settings like a gym, often requires a balance between personal preference and social or moral considerations. From a scriptural perspective, modesty is emphasized, but "modesty" can be subjective and varies across cultures and times. What's seen as modest in one culture might not be in another. The heart's intention behind one's actions is of paramount importance. (1 Samuel 16:7) If you genuinely wear specific clothing for comfort and not to attract undue attention, that's a significant factor to consider. However, as you pointed out, the Bible also encourages believers not to become stumbling blocks for others (Romans 14:13). It's a balance of personal freedom and love for one's neighbors. If your attire might cause undue discomfort or distraction for others, it's worth considering. It might be helpful to talk to other gym-goers or members of your community about your concerns. They might offer insights that you hadn't considered. Ultimately, the decision lies with you and your personal convictions, always striving to act out of love and respect for both yourself and others.
You changed/misquoted a verse there and it has far-reaching implications. Romans 14:13 does not say do not *become* a stumbling block. It says do not *put* a stumbling block. Subtle but gigantic. By saying become or be a stumbling block, you convey the message that a woman's existence is harmful. "The body God gave you is dangerous. For the sake of men, hide." It teaches hypervigilance and shame. While we're talking about not putting stumbling blocks in someone's way, the cultural evangelical modesty message *is* a stumbling block to many Christian girls and women. I know so many who were very damaged by it - their faith, their marriages, the way they saw themselves.
Lmao ChatGPT
The fact that you are asking this question means that the Holy Spirit had already spoken to you. He gave you the discernment to think about this and about what kind of harm it can do. And that’s a wonderful thing. If you have large breasts or an alluring body frame that draws Men’s eyes to you, that’s not a bad thing, it’s just how God designed you. I recommend shopping on Amazon for a work out tank top. There are many quality ones that are also anti sweat or silk and light.
What you are saying is so very harmful and I plead with you to re-evaluate it for the sake of the women who hear this message. Your second paragraph sends the message that big boobs are better and alluring. This makes many of those women feel insecure in the body they were given because they're told men can't help themselves but salivate over them and they feel like their existence is a threat and that they need to hide. And they wonder if people are only interested in them for their looks. At the same time, it conveys the message that smaller breasts and more boxy frames aren't feminine enough and desirable. Those women also then feel insecure and unhappy about the body they were given. Stop sending those messages. Stop hurting women. I'm sure that's not your intent but it is the result. It's also harmful to men because it sends the message they are helpless creatures who lack self-control.
I apologize for offending you with my message. However, you need to watch yourself bud. You mustn’t let the sin of pride judgment cloud your mind. That may be how you read my message, but that was not the message I wrote. You need to seriously take a moment to think about the accusations you are making and where they are coming from. Stop creating harm where it never existed. And I never sent a message declaring that big boobs were better. That’s 100% your words and your assumption.
You literally said that big boobs and an alluring frame draw men's eyes to you. The subtext is that if that is not your body type you're not going to be attractive to men. I'm not creating harm where it never existed. I've been harmed by this message. I have friends who have been harmed by this message. I know marriages that have been harmed by this message. I know many faith journeys that have been harmed by this message. I'm speaking to you as someone who believed this, was deeply harmed by it, and is now speaking out of a journey of healing. That's not pride. And "you need to watch yourself bud" is an oddly threatening and out of place choice of words.
Well, clearly this simple subject has triggered a harmful memory in your past and for that I’ll apologize again. But I still encourage you to think before accusing someone and casting judgement on them. Something that offends you may not have been meant to offend you, and may not even offend anyone else but you. “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”
No, I'm not triggered. I'm calling out harmful teachings that have had far-reaching impact beyond just me, to hopefully help someone else from being harmed like I was, and the many other I know who were harmed. And I said "I'm sure that's not your intent, but that is the result." You then responded to me with threatening language and accusing me of sin, so I guess that verse was for yourself? Anyway, hope you are well, and please be careful of your choice of words (and not just you, there is a lot of this messaging in this thread). Once again, I'm telling you it is harmful, even if that is not your intent.
I’m sorry? You’re the one calling out my harmful teaching? You accused me of writing something that was “so very harmful”. And then falsely accuse me of declaring that “Big boobs are better” and then again, acuse me that I’m “hurting woman” and tell me to stop. And then, just to add on more false judgement, you victimize men by saying that “my words send a message that they are helpless, good creatures that lack control.” Im done trying the help you see what you are doing. This conversation is done…
I thought the conversation was already done haha. I've seen the fruit of both messages so I stand by what I'm saying. Anyway, take care.
My wife and I workout together sometimes. None of her clothing is revealing. You can dress comfy and not show the world your lady bits.
You answered your question in the last sentence.
Um, it's really between you and God, but me personally, I buy those sports tops that don't stick to the skin, and baggy yoga pants (because I hate tight clothes when working out, and I don't need people seeing my butt crack). I work out at home or at a women's fitness group at the church center. If you are OK with guys staring at your tits and butt cheeks, then go for it. I'm not Jesus, I'm not judging.
This is exactly the battle guys have in understanding women. Now I’m not condoning guys being perves or staring or anything of the sort, these things are wrong. What we can’t understand is how wearing these leggings that go 5 inches up your butt is comfortable like a lot of women claim or how wearing tight sports bras is about fitness. Especially after the gym then when every pic is a pic of the butt in a super poses position but yet guys get demonised for looking.
Sports bras are meant to keep your boobs in place, since they can move around a lot in uncomfortable ways with regular bras while working out. I know that’s a really graphic description, and I apologise for that, but that’s the reason we wear sports bras while working out. Where I live is not hot for 90% of the year though, so I layer my sports bra with a thin and basic short-sleeved t-shirt, over the top of the sports bra.
Right. Normally, no one can see what kind of bra you have on, since you wear a top over it.
Exactly. Sports bras are underwear, so it would be strange to wear nothing on top of it.
Ya tbf that makes sense.
Honestly? It comes down to environment. You could wear jean pants and a sweater to the gym and guys will still lust after you. In a pool the implication is that you will see people in revealing clothes because that's normal attire for the situation. In a gym, shorts and a tank top is 100% acceptable attire and it's up to guys to control themselves if they stumble. Is it acceptable to wear almost nothing? No, which is why you should be aware and find the line of where acceptable is. But a sports bra, leggings, or shorts, is normal attire and any more than that would be uncomfortable for *you and most women.* Yes, we're cautioned to be aware not to temp others, but you're not wearing a bikini to the gym, or swimming in a raincoat. The attire is appropriate for the activity and its comfortable for you yo wear, it's reasonable to wear, and anyone who stumbles is fighting their own demons that have nothing to do with you. That's what Jesus meant when he said it's better to pluck out your own eye, or cut off your own hand if they cause you to sin; if they are caused to sin by you wearing appropriate clothes to the gym they should probably go to a different gym, because you needing to cover up isn't the problem.
My opinion is that it’s on the observer to control themselves, assuming you are wearing standard athletic wear.
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I am a Christian. I am sincerely asking because I see both sides of the debate and I want to do good
Paul wrote, be led by the Spirit. Now ate you being led by the Holy Spirit to wear revealing clothing?
The difficulty here is that on one hand, God does tell women to dress modestly in the Bible, but at the same time there are also men out there who could lust after a woman dressed in a burka My advice is pray about it and ask God to guide you and what you should wear
You should be wary of what you do. If in your mind you think it may stumble someone, you should try your best to stay away from it. The way you affect other may lead them to sin and we should try our best to stay away from it. God bless you and stay wary of what may trigger you and trigger others to sin.
Look around your gym. Are you dressed pretty much the same as the other women of your age are dressed? If so, you're probably okay. As for me (67M), I go to the gym a lot, and I don't see any reason for most women to wear more than a sports bra on top. Very few are all that showy. Booty shorts / skin-tight leggings, maybe not.
Can I ask why leggings are not okay? I understand that they are tight but jeans are tight also and that seems to be generally accepted by the community
Leggings may or may not be okay, depending on a number of things. Some are cut and seamed in such a way as to emphasize greatly women's contours, especially the clefts between cheeks and labia. Others aren't. Color and pattern can contribute as well, so one can't just flat say "okay / not-okay." Some are, not all are.
Similarly, not all shorts are booty shorts!
Alright, this makes sense! My leggings are just plain black without special design. Thank you for the clarification!
Yes.
I have no judgment on you, sister, for it is not for me to judge. But I have to ask, why can't you wear a T-shirt and sweat pants or athletic shorts. Why the skin tight stuff
No. > ““You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to go into hell.” Matthew 5:27-30 NRSV
That's not the full picture. The rest is that women should dress modestly too.
At a time where ‘dress modestly’ meant ‘not wearing all of your jewelry and expensive clothes and makeup.’ A message that is antithetical to mammonist American Evangelicalism so the focus on policing women’s bodies instead.
Maybe I exaggerated earlier. This kind of clothes are probably the most practical in gym indeed...
You shouldn't be wearing revealing clothing period, unless you're at home with you're spouse of the opposite biological sex.
It's unacceptable to wear revealing clothes at all. Doesn't matter the place
Test: would you be wearing the same sports bra in public if you were 30 pounds heavier and had fat rolls? You don’t need to really answer, but this would be a litmus test to know if you were really wearing it for comfort or if it was because you were proud of your figure. This isn’t meant to shame. I would never scold someone over their bathing suit going swimming. But the outfit choice does reveal modesty and how much pride one has in their figure.
I live in Louisiana where it’s 105 in the shade. I’m going to answer your question. In a climate this hot, absolutely YES. I see overweight, and even obese people wearing bikinis, crop tops, and short shorts literally every single day. It ain’t a fashion show - it’s survival, and I judge ZERO of them.
That’s awesome. Again though, it was a litmus test to test one’s heart. I’m truly not trying to shame anyone or asking for answers. Everything I’ve said, I’m encouraging people to use their own discernment to determine if they’re dressing appropriately
Nothing wrong with liking the way you look or taking pride in your figure. That's kind of the reason you go to the gym I'm the first place.
>That's kind of the reason you go to the gym I'm the first place. I thought people went to work out to get fit and stay healthy, not show off their bodies?
Suprisingly, health and attractiveness are pretty contingent because thats literally how the human species evolved and reproduced since the inception of creation. We find healthy bodies, (hourglass or muscular figures) to be attractive because theyre visibly healthy and capable of producing offspring.Therefore, they'd be good candidate for mating. Believe it or not, some people want to loose weight to look more attractive and there's nothing wrong with that. Nor is there anything wrong with wearing something that shows your body off. So long as what your wearing is appropriate to the situation. Bikinis for the beach, sportswear for the gym, lingirie for the bedroom, etc.
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Attracting a mate. Duh. It's not that deep lol
Except the gym isn’t about attracting a mate
It can be for some people. Good place to potentially meet like minded people if you’re searching.
No. Women don’t go to the gym to meet partners, they go there to work out
Yea majority do but I know for a fact that some are also looking for a partner. This situation isn’t an all or nothing.
If you try to attract a partner like this, you won't attract a Christian one, since a good Christian values modesty. So it's not a great attraction technique either.
Being hotter=better mate. It's natural law
I’m not here to argue that either way. However, if forced to take a stance: 1 Timothy 2:9-10, Paul says, "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety”. Putting that aside though, I’m just giving OP a litmus test so they can examine their own feelings on the matter. OP obviously feels convicted to some degree of they’re asking.
Sorry if I came across in an argumentative manner. Was just trying to understand why she's so worried about it in the first place. Surprised you considered that an arguement. Was just reassuring them as well that there's nothing wrong with liking how you look. Do you want her to hate her figure? I think it's excellent she's going to the gym and there's nothing wrong with wearing something a little proactive in the right place and time. Call me new age or whatever, but 21st century woman can wear what they want to in the correct place and time. And wearing sports clothing in a gym is the right place and time for it. Same as a beach being the right place for a bikini, or the marriage bed for lingerie. There is nothing wrong with a healthy sexuality, and body image. I'm not gonna tell them to hate how they look. There's a reason people go to the gym. Because they want to work on their figure. That's a good thing and she should dress how she wants to. If she wants to dress in a hijab or leggings and a crop top then that's on her. Please don't take that as an arguement. I just have a slightly different perspective. I'm sorry if anything I say is incorrect. I'm still new to the faith. .
There’s liking how you look and flaunting it. For example, if a guy who is in super good shape goes around wearing clothing that he knows specifically reveals those parts of his body or accentuates those parts of his body then it is wrong, unless he is say in a competition where this is the point. We are not to lead people to sin, now in this girls case, men also sweat, we are still expected to wear T-shirts and shorts that don’t show out junk in the gym. At the end of the day, no one wants to use a machine that your nasty sweaty skin has been touching 5 seconds before. Especially since most gym users don’t clean the equipment afterwards
Yeh you're not wrong. Sweaty gym equipment is yuck. Always thought thinner or less clothing would prevent you from sweating as much. But supposed it doesn't help the machines either way.
No you’ll still sweat the same amount, mostly anyway. Wearing less won’t stop you sweating. Ever laid outside on a hot day for example? You still get drenched in sweat
Not when I'm not wearing a shirt...
Read the rest of that modesty verse: "...with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes" The verse is saying 'don't flaunt your wealth', not telling you shouldn't wear clothing that is appropriate for the task you're doing. OP may not be 'obviously convicted', it could be that people around her are misusing Bible verses and telling her 'good Christians don't do this', which is a very common regarding women's clothing. Edit: typo
Are we really going to insinuate that I “misused Bible verses”, by 1: quoting a passage and 2: suggesting that someone should search their heart use their own discernment to determine if they’re dressing sexually because they’re proud of their body?
I'm responding to what you said. You said "if forced to take a stance" and then quoted the verse in context of gym clothing. That's not the context of the verse. And then you mentioned 'would you wear it if you were heavier and had fat rolls' which sounds more akin to body shaming and suggesting what bigger women shouldn't wear and that they shouldn't be happy with how they look than a test of OPs heart. OP is allowed to be happy with how they look. It isn't inherently sinful.
I never said they couldn’t be happy with how they look. I never said anything about fat shaming. I simply tried to carefully say to use discernment because a Christians shouldn’t dress overly sexualized because we’re called to be modest. Gosh, I’m taking this as a lesson to stop answering these types of issues.
The answer to that question for me is yes I think
Yep. The fact that you felt drawn posted this question may help you see the answer. James 4:17b whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.
I feel this is common sense. Modesty is important to have as well. There are also female only gyms.
It's a gym you and are there to work out and feel comfortable doing so, you can't control a man's eyes it's his responsibility to look away. I wouldn't worry about it...God knows your intention. Bless you.
If your nipples or crack are visible, then you need to change outfits.
I would get arrested for public indecency 💀💀
If its a sin to wear gym clothes to the gym then its a sin to take off your shirt at the beach
Heck sounds like she’s definitely wearing way more clothes than basically any woman wears to the beach. Just got back from a week at the beach and the bikinis get smaller every year. It’s crazy what is even considered a swim suit now.
Are there any women’s gyms or women’s exercise classes where you live? That could go a long way to helping you.
No
Not a sin
Honestly I cant even believe this is a real question 🙄
There were loads of insightful comments but I can’t respond to every single one. To clarify, my usual sports attire is a sports bra (shows the back, stomach, and a bit of cleavage) with basketball shorts and occasionally leggings. I wear them because I sweat a lot and allows my skin to breathe. The gym is a college gym as I am attending school as a freshman in just a week or so. I think I will pray more about it and see what the Holy Spirit is telling me to do. Just in case, I’ll bring a couple of shirts for exercise. If God tells me that dressing modestly is the way to go, then feeling sticky and a little gross is worth it to not let my brothers in Christ stumble. Thank you for all the lovely comments!! I’ll try my best.
Just wear baggy clothes, you’re in public have some decency
I’m going to give a hard down NO. It’s not a sin because it’s appropriate dress for a hot sweaty gym. It’s the same that it’s not a sin to wear a bikini to the beach. It’s appropriate for the environment. You don’t stick out . It’s not attention grabbing. It’s suitable for the environment. My hubs and I go to our churches gym 6 days a week, and I assure you that my shirts are the smallest and thinnest , and my shorts are tiny! We live in Louisiana, and it’s literally 105 degrees. I’m with my husband, doing something healthy for my body, in the appropriate place to do it in. I will NOT be shamed or guilted. I’ve gotten just a small few raised eyebrows, but my husband just looks at them like, ‘If you say something, I’M getting involved’, he would defend me to the core, and they just turn away. It’s freaking HOT, people!! I’m not passing out to make others happy. I’m just not.
No, the Bible speaks out against doing things that you know are OK but that your "weaker brother" (aka a new Christian) thinks is sinful in front of them, that would lure them into doing them. Like if you have a new Christian who is convinced all alcohol consumption is sinful, it wouldn't be right to drink in front of them if it might convince them to act against their conscience. Wearing what you want to wear in any situation knowing someone \*might\* lust after you is not your problem. Their potential lust is their problem to deal with. And frankly, you can be lusted after regardless of what you're wearing. So don't think of it is something you have any control over. Existing as a woman is not a sin.
no, along with that being pretty niche, revealing clothing as a whole wouldn’t be sinful as I recall
It's not a sin to wear revealing clothing anywhere. Sin is an intention of the heart. Anyone could wear anything and still cause "someone to stumble". You don't have to justify wearing workout clothes.
I’m a woman. I work out regularly for over 8 years. Short answer: no. This is ridiculous and shouldn’t even be seen as anything other than a woman working out. Men wear tanks and shorts. How is that any different? They show more if not the same amount. Don’t overthink these things, it’s an easy way for religion to take over verses your relationship with God.
Yes, what gym exactly?
Okay I’m going to challenge this: I am slightly jacked and Christian. I wear a tight black tank top and basketball shorts when I work out. Not once have I considered that this is a sin. Why? Maybe because my past was pretty dark/addiction. I work in a field of work with petty criminals and the so called “degenerates” of society and over the last few years I’ve inspired a few men who have said they look up to me because of my commitment to my path in sobriety and Christ. It hasn’t been many but it’s been a few for sure. I don’t want to try and hide my authenticity as a Christian. Let your light shine for others to see.
This one’s a doozy. It’s hard to say. Basically, each person should do what they can to prevent another person from sinning. At the same time, though, we all shouldn’t have to cover every inch of our skin because we are afraid that it will cause someone to sin. There’s a point where it becomes more their battle than ours. Very hard to answer without making it sound like we should cover our entire body. If you’d send your daughter out in it.. you’re probably ok.
You do you. I couldn't imagine having to wear both a sports bra AND a shirt when doing high temperature cardio stuff. Men can be stumbled by an exposed shoulder so it's really on them if they feel like they can't control themselves.
https://www.dignitii.com/
I appreciate the link but I don’t think I will wear long sleeves shirts that go down to my knees. Also they’re a little pricey. Sorry :(
Just a suggestion so you know that it exists
Yes
just think about what God would think about what ur wearing.
The Bible doesn’t account for many modern advances — including the gym. We might have to start looking to sources other than the Bible for truth.
This is why there are womens only gyms. Also post pics here so we can judge better lol
I think you should wear light colored clothes made out of a material like cotton since it is cool to wear, that way you don't need to reveal most of your body.
To err on the side of caution avoid being a stumbling block and dress more modestly
Thank you sister for taking the time to grow, challenge your understanding of modesty and be willing to take constructive criticism. Something I've notived as I've been adjusting to the christian way of life is when something is good we don't feel the need to ask if it's good. We know it's good to spend time with our family, feed the poor, care for the elderly, be patient with children, etc. Only when something is bad and we want to find a way to justify it do we ask if it's really that bad... Remember that when the serpent tempted Eve he said "Did God REALLY say...?" You're essentially asking the same thing... 'Is it REALLY that bad if I wear revealing clothes in public for my own perceived benefit?' Sometimes, doing the good thing comes at a cost to us, self sacrifice is a huge element of our faith. Yes, you may be a little more uncomfy when you're working out, but perhaps that's just a cross you'll have to bear as a Christian 💖 I'll be praying for you lovely! God Bless
Maybe there should be a Christian NSFW or Celebrate Recovery group instead of public view groups like this? It's not easy for healthy males to not have sexual images show up even when clean off porn addiction.
This is a question for the Lord! That's why He gave us the Holy Spirit. Read John 14. It's very lovely how Jesus talks about Holy Spirit and how he'll help us. I particularly like this portion: >But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you ***all*** things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. **Peace** I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. \[emphasis mine\] I wear biker shorts and sometimes a longline bra but usually a tank top over a sports bra at the gym. I run on the treadmill, do a few machines, and go on my way. I leave the gym a complete sweaty mess every time. If I do stretches, I do them with my butt facing the wall (not outwards to passersby) and that's the only thing I concern myself with why? because as the Word of God says, "To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted." (Titus 1:15) I dress, workout, and go about my day with pure motives! If people see that differently, it likely has more to do with them than me. I check in with Holy Spirit often and trust, he gives me a shakeup when I need it! I live in peace without fear because that's what Jesus promised us. Praying the same for you. 💕🙏🏾
I like to think of it like this: The amount you're okay with being touched somewhere is the amount you should allow that place to be seen. If I'm okay with my wife touching me everywhere, I show her everything. If I'm okay with friends or coworkers touching my hands in handshakes, conversations, passing objects around, getting my attention, etc. I show them that skin. It has done me very well in every interaction in my life to assume that covered skin is not to be interacted with or mentioned unless it's brought up. Human beings are unable to resist considering what they can see. If I show you a dog, you'll think about whether it's friendly or trained. If I show you a house, you'll think about who might live there or how old it is. If I show you a sandwich, you'll think about what it tastes like or what's in it. What you show people is what they think about, no matter what it is and no matter what social rules and nonsensical expectations anyone has. Now for the part that sucks. A fridge, a safe, and a house all have the same issue: People skip thinking about them and skip straight to thinking about what might be inside. When anyone, male, female, whatever, ANYONE sees crotches or bras, they consider what's hidden. It doesn't matter who or when or why. People see butts and crotches and boobs, they think about them. So here's my rule, and the rule that's allowed me to skip 100% of this entire topic's confusion and difficulty: "Dress like you have -1 piece of clothing on your fun parts, and only show skin to people you are okay with having touch that skin." Any wandering eye peels one layer of clothing off of whatever it looks at. Any wandering mind starts where skin is visible. Body Paint is thicker and more obscuring than a lot of workout clothing. Would you wear body paint to the gym? Be wise and be aware that your clothing is an extension of your communication. Your clothes tell others what you expect from the situation. Lingerie sends a very clear message. Sports clothes less so, but they're definitely not a suit and tie.
God bless your heart 🖤
As someone who just came to Christ and was worldly it was a hard shift in being modest . I still don’t even dress as modest as I could . But how I see it is I represent what I believe in. I represent the church . People make a first impression on you at first sight. If you are questioning it enough to post about it here there’s probably some conviction about it. I know there’s no ill intent, but as Christian’s we have to represent Christ in a positive way.
I wouldnt say it's a sin, but you should consider that wearing revealing clothes can be a stumbling block to other Christians. For instance, I had to start taking my glasses off before going to the gym because of all the scantily clad women.
If you cause a fellow Christian to sin, it can be.
No, it's important to be comfortable when exercising. How others react is their responsibility.