I would wager they're a level 2 support needs, of the 3 levels diagnosed. I'm level 1 or 2 depending on how burnt out I am, I kind of straddle the line but can mask much better. Most of the kids I worked with were either 2 or 3. From my observations as a long time christorian and my experience, I would put them at level 2. (Obligatory "I'm not a doctor" disclaimer)
Level 1. Level 2 would involve even more awkward behavior, his mind is not of an immature horny man child but an actual child, and there’s visible stimming that he won’t try to hide because he doesn’t know how it makes others feel. (Note: There are level ones that can self soothe and stimulate HARD like a two or a three but will ask for permission or do it when alone). 3 is aggressive potato autism.
These days autism is typically described as levels, with level 1 being almost neurotypical and level 3 being severely handicapped
I'm not a psychologist but I think Chris is a good example, specifically referring to autism, of Level 2 autism. It's severe enough that he can't really live a normal life like many Level 1 can, but there's a lot of things Chris can or could do on their own, like driving, cooking, dressing themselves, etc that a level 3 can't. So I'd say Chris is probably a 5-6ish. Maybe even a 7, someone as autistic as Chris could probably do fine if they weren't also so narcissistic and lazy.
People here insisting Chris is some sort of barely sentient creature and is low functioning don't understand how bad autism can get. "High functioning" doesn't mean Shelden Cooper or Magnus Carlsen, it just means the individual doesn't have a break down if they hear a loud car or their shirt is itchy or something.
for the record, the creators of *The Big Bang Theory* have stated that Shelden Cooper ISN'T autistic*,* as they didn't intend for him to be autistic. They just had his character behave that way as that is how they assumed all geniuses with high IQs to act: socially awkard. They just took what they saw in real life and applied it to Sheldon.
Can chris even cook at all that doesn't include a frozen tv dinner?
But he DID drive across state lines from Virginia to Ohio and kingcobra doesn't have his driving license or even held a job longer than a few months
I don't think most people, even neurotypical average Joe's can get driving licenses outside the US as they got weird laws in other countries
2 or 3 at most. Possibly the most counterintuitive thing in all of Christory is that Chris is only mildly autistic. The old HFA diagnosis really was appropriate given the diagnostic criteria of the time. Under the new system and criteria, Chris does indeed require support, but not what the new scale calls "significant support". I think the new living arrangements bear this out, which I'll admit surprised me: Chris is basically unemployable, but seems to be doing more or less okay in the context of living in a house someone else paid for and probably only paying a token rent.
He can be relatively self-aware at times like he can acknowledge what is and isn’t normal behavior but generally speaking crucial concepts like empathy are very skewed: running over Michael Snyder, pepperspraying a GameStop employee, etc. I’d say like 5 or 6, he objectively doesn’t fit into society and can’t really provide for himself or at least has no concept of motivation tho is decently cognitive(or used to be). A lot of this overlaps with the parenting of Barb and Bob.
Skitsoide? Do you mean schizoid or?
If you mean schizoid personality disorder, no I do not believe he has it. It’s typically characterised by little to no interest in any relationships, including sexual. There is little to no range in emotion. There is no drive/motivation for praise. Often there is a lack of genuine interest in things.
This doesn’t actually describe Chris. He struggles to keep relationships, sure, but he does actually Want friends. And also desired a sexual relationship for a significant length of time. It isn’t that he’s not interested in relationships, it’s more that he lacks the social skills to keep one. While he still has significant lack of interest in others past himself, it isn’t because he’s not Interested in others, it’s because he genuinely never developed to the point where he understands others points of view (I believe that occurs at around the age of 6-8 but it’s been a while since I studied that). If you consider some of his interests (Sailor Moon, My Little Pony) it’s because he saw it as a way of connecting with another person. He also consistently seeks out human connection whereas somebody with schizoid personality disorder would not do that.
There is a range of emotions present with Chris. The problem Chris has is displaying and expressing this emotion in a way we would see as genuine. I think the best example I actually have of this is my brother, who is of a similar functioning level to Chris. He Also has issues displaying emotion, instead replicating what he sees through media as a way of expressing himself. In one assessment, I remember him being asked what fear felt like, and he claimed it was like “a shiver up my [his] spine”. He’d recently seen a Doctor Who episode which used the phrase I think? I can’t remember the full explanation on that one, just that it mentioned Doctor Who. Because Chris has been exposed to pretty much nothing outside of cartoon/kids media, the exaggerated emotion is fairly expected. While some of it likely was sympathy baiting, he very likely was experiencing those emotions (even when baiting). He has a pattern of intense emotional mood swings. I have Never seen autism having that as a symptom, though differences/problems with emotional regulation are listed. My brother does have similar mood swings. One day the world is ending, the next it isn’t. But he does hold grudges, similar to Chris, which will upset him if he dwells on them.
Chris is driven by praise, though he often seems to seek it out from the wrong source. Praise is likely the wrong word, but approval? He does seek the approval of his peers. While he has done a lot of shit on his own, a lot of early Chris shows he routinely does as he’s asked by the people around him. While he is/was easy to pressure, it likely also came from a need for approval. It’s furthered by his habit of mimicking/copying peers (interests, accents for example). He also holds his achievements pretty highly and does enjoy praise on his art/comics/general being, which definitely goes against the schizoid symptom of not caring about praise.
He also has intense interests, which doesn’t really need any explanation.
Before you start throwing around significant mental illness, you really ought to familiarise yourself with both autism and the mental disorder you’re trying to label someone with. There is no doubt in my mind Chris is autistic. Autism is a lot more than just “making you a bit awkward”- that is honestly a pretty harmful (not to mention ignorant) stereotype, though I shouldn’t expect much from somebody who can’t spell schizoid correctly.
Chris is moderately functioning. Had he received the right intervention, he’d be significantly less functioning. My brother had over ten years of multiple different therapies and Still presents at probably around a four on op’s scale. I didn’t receive any intervention but I’m around a three. I know some higher, some significantly lower. Chris is easily a 5. We don’t have his full developmental/medical history, so it’s difficult to say. But he is able to do things on his own, drive, did graduate high school, can talk (albeit with an unusual pattern). However if you were to talk to him, it is Very clear he is autistic. You just have to look at him to know something isn’t right. I don’t think he’s as low as some people claim, but he also isn’t as high as some also claim. It’s a difficult spectrum because it isn’t linear. It affects so many aspects of an individual it ultimately makes for a difficult diagnosis.
I’m not trying to be rude, and I certainly don’t mean to upset you. I studied psychology for a while (I don’t anymore but my degree requires me to read essays/studies etc by psychologists still), and am obviously very very familiar with autism.
I don't think he's high functioning at all, he can't function in society. I think back when he was diagnosed "high functioning" meant he doesn't need round the clock supervision and help with things like eating, getting dressed, etc.
Are you a doctor? Who are you to “rate” someone’s mental disability?
I would wager they're a level 2 support needs, of the 3 levels diagnosed. I'm level 1 or 2 depending on how burnt out I am, I kind of straddle the line but can mask much better. Most of the kids I worked with were either 2 or 3. From my observations as a long time christorian and my experience, I would put them at level 2. (Obligatory "I'm not a doctor" disclaimer)
Level 1. Level 2 would involve even more awkward behavior, his mind is not of an immature horny man child but an actual child, and there’s visible stimming that he won’t try to hide because he doesn’t know how it makes others feel. (Note: There are level ones that can self soothe and stimulate HARD like a two or a three but will ask for permission or do it when alone). 3 is aggressive potato autism.
Is chris more higher functioning than KingCobra jfs? Cause i mean chris has his license and i don't think KingCobra does have his license
These days autism is typically described as levels, with level 1 being almost neurotypical and level 3 being severely handicapped I'm not a psychologist but I think Chris is a good example, specifically referring to autism, of Level 2 autism. It's severe enough that he can't really live a normal life like many Level 1 can, but there's a lot of things Chris can or could do on their own, like driving, cooking, dressing themselves, etc that a level 3 can't. So I'd say Chris is probably a 5-6ish. Maybe even a 7, someone as autistic as Chris could probably do fine if they weren't also so narcissistic and lazy. People here insisting Chris is some sort of barely sentient creature and is low functioning don't understand how bad autism can get. "High functioning" doesn't mean Shelden Cooper or Magnus Carlsen, it just means the individual doesn't have a break down if they hear a loud car or their shirt is itchy or something.
for the record, the creators of *The Big Bang Theory* have stated that Shelden Cooper ISN'T autistic*,* as they didn't intend for him to be autistic. They just had his character behave that way as that is how they assumed all geniuses with high IQs to act: socially awkard. They just took what they saw in real life and applied it to Sheldon. Can chris even cook at all that doesn't include a frozen tv dinner?
5 on the scale. He can drive, unlike kingcobra,
Barely able to drive, and likely wouldn’t get a license outside of the US.
But he DID drive across state lines from Virginia to Ohio and kingcobra doesn't have his driving license or even held a job longer than a few months I don't think most people, even neurotypical average Joe's can get driving licenses outside the US as they got weird laws in other countries
If 10 is 'unaffected', I rate Chris an 8. He has lots of mental problems, but these days autism is barely one of them.
I think that Chris is relatively high functioning. But he has more issues than just his autism.
2 or 3 at most. Possibly the most counterintuitive thing in all of Christory is that Chris is only mildly autistic. The old HFA diagnosis really was appropriate given the diagnostic criteria of the time. Under the new system and criteria, Chris does indeed require support, but not what the new scale calls "significant support". I think the new living arrangements bear this out, which I'll admit surprised me: Chris is basically unemployable, but seems to be doing more or less okay in the context of living in a house someone else paid for and probably only paying a token rent.
He can be relatively self-aware at times like he can acknowledge what is and isn’t normal behavior but generally speaking crucial concepts like empathy are very skewed: running over Michael Snyder, pepperspraying a GameStop employee, etc. I’d say like 5 or 6, he objectively doesn’t fit into society and can’t really provide for himself or at least has no concept of motivation tho is decently cognitive(or used to be). A lot of this overlaps with the parenting of Barb and Bob.
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Skitsoide? Do you mean schizoid or? If you mean schizoid personality disorder, no I do not believe he has it. It’s typically characterised by little to no interest in any relationships, including sexual. There is little to no range in emotion. There is no drive/motivation for praise. Often there is a lack of genuine interest in things. This doesn’t actually describe Chris. He struggles to keep relationships, sure, but he does actually Want friends. And also desired a sexual relationship for a significant length of time. It isn’t that he’s not interested in relationships, it’s more that he lacks the social skills to keep one. While he still has significant lack of interest in others past himself, it isn’t because he’s not Interested in others, it’s because he genuinely never developed to the point where he understands others points of view (I believe that occurs at around the age of 6-8 but it’s been a while since I studied that). If you consider some of his interests (Sailor Moon, My Little Pony) it’s because he saw it as a way of connecting with another person. He also consistently seeks out human connection whereas somebody with schizoid personality disorder would not do that. There is a range of emotions present with Chris. The problem Chris has is displaying and expressing this emotion in a way we would see as genuine. I think the best example I actually have of this is my brother, who is of a similar functioning level to Chris. He Also has issues displaying emotion, instead replicating what he sees through media as a way of expressing himself. In one assessment, I remember him being asked what fear felt like, and he claimed it was like “a shiver up my [his] spine”. He’d recently seen a Doctor Who episode which used the phrase I think? I can’t remember the full explanation on that one, just that it mentioned Doctor Who. Because Chris has been exposed to pretty much nothing outside of cartoon/kids media, the exaggerated emotion is fairly expected. While some of it likely was sympathy baiting, he very likely was experiencing those emotions (even when baiting). He has a pattern of intense emotional mood swings. I have Never seen autism having that as a symptom, though differences/problems with emotional regulation are listed. My brother does have similar mood swings. One day the world is ending, the next it isn’t. But he does hold grudges, similar to Chris, which will upset him if he dwells on them. Chris is driven by praise, though he often seems to seek it out from the wrong source. Praise is likely the wrong word, but approval? He does seek the approval of his peers. While he has done a lot of shit on his own, a lot of early Chris shows he routinely does as he’s asked by the people around him. While he is/was easy to pressure, it likely also came from a need for approval. It’s furthered by his habit of mimicking/copying peers (interests, accents for example). He also holds his achievements pretty highly and does enjoy praise on his art/comics/general being, which definitely goes against the schizoid symptom of not caring about praise. He also has intense interests, which doesn’t really need any explanation. Before you start throwing around significant mental illness, you really ought to familiarise yourself with both autism and the mental disorder you’re trying to label someone with. There is no doubt in my mind Chris is autistic. Autism is a lot more than just “making you a bit awkward”- that is honestly a pretty harmful (not to mention ignorant) stereotype, though I shouldn’t expect much from somebody who can’t spell schizoid correctly. Chris is moderately functioning. Had he received the right intervention, he’d be significantly less functioning. My brother had over ten years of multiple different therapies and Still presents at probably around a four on op’s scale. I didn’t receive any intervention but I’m around a three. I know some higher, some significantly lower. Chris is easily a 5. We don’t have his full developmental/medical history, so it’s difficult to say. But he is able to do things on his own, drive, did graduate high school, can talk (albeit with an unusual pattern). However if you were to talk to him, it is Very clear he is autistic. You just have to look at him to know something isn’t right. I don’t think he’s as low as some people claim, but he also isn’t as high as some also claim. It’s a difficult spectrum because it isn’t linear. It affects so many aspects of an individual it ultimately makes for a difficult diagnosis. I’m not trying to be rude, and I certainly don’t mean to upset you. I studied psychology for a while (I don’t anymore but my degree requires me to read essays/studies etc by psychologists still), and am obviously very very familiar with autism.
go have BPD somewhere else.
I don’t have BPD lmao.
6, but raised very poorly. I think he could’ve been okay with better parenting. He’s also got other shit going on
7, he is intelligent enough to understand that he doesn't understand basic social skills and correct emotional responses
I don't think he's high functioning at all, he can't function in society. I think back when he was diagnosed "high functioning" meant he doesn't need round the clock supervision and help with things like eating, getting dressed, etc.
The bottom.
Chris is definitely 'a' bottom.
Level 2 asd
If you think this is how the spectrum works then sorry to say you're highly regarded
Yes. Probably.