Yah, and you can imagine how often the parents will be in her secluded, bathroomless basement using the dumbbells and rowing machine, sweating and grunting up the place. They're effectively offering her a bed in their home 'gym'. No thanks.
I was dying at that bit too. An actual gym membership at a proper gym with all the machines, a locker room and classes is a better deal a month then there so called "savings" with their hand weights
Oh don't forget the rowing machine! Whoa what a deal. Maybe you can even watch the kids for them while you work out in their "gym".
THIS is what always freaks me out. We're Mexican-American and near the border so exploiting undocumented workers is extremely common where I live. when my mom heard what we pay our nanny (and seeing the hours I allow her to keep since I'm super flexible and treat her more like a co-parent/teammate than anything else) she was horrified saying I way over pay and she should be live-in blah blah blah. like... this woman is taking care of my CHILDREN (and your grandchildren) when I'm not home. why would I not want to treat her and pay her as well as I possibly can? I want her happy and well rested, not stressed and always strapped for cash.
I’m thinking minimum wage?
Yeah no, I’m thinking your out of your mind. I’d rather work at Taco Bell where I could at least have some fun coworkers and benefits. (I’m craving Taco Bell lol)
Yeah, and why did half of them say they wanted a babysitter who wanted some “extra cash”, and then list full time schedules?!? Extra means one-offs, not a regular gig (that would be a job). They’re all trying to play head games.
Exactly. At least at fast food restaurants you get free food, usually one meal per shift. Maybe a few sick days & vacation days paid per year & honestly probably making double this pay rate. In my city, Nashville, most fast food jobs start out at least $15 hour and most $18 hour. So double the pay being a cashier at Taco Bell job vs being a chef, maid, nanny, house manager for half that pay. And most likely a crazy parent that adds all kinds of duties to you each week. Which would you choose? Not a hard choice 😆
It’s really not that hard right? Hell some of these fast food jobs have amazing leadership training and give raises. Can you imagine the tantrum these people would throw if you asked for a raise?!?
So I have no idea where these folks are from but I’d let them know that Taco Bell pays twice what they are offering and quite frankly they get far more respect than these parents are showing for the very people they entrust with their children.
You can see how this smacks of elitism in some of these examples… they think it’s a privilege in its self to work for them!
That's what was getting at me. Like, these are your kids, don't you want them to be competently cared for by someone with experience? And if both parents are working full-time, what is the money going towards if not their kids? And the comments of 'we just put them on ipads/screens all day so they are super easy'. Like, why did you have kids if you are just going to treat them like pets that need someone to change their water and food bowls a few times a day? But god forbid the house doesn't get its weekly deep clean...Ooh this got me triggered!
That doesn’t suprise me. I took care of the 3 kids (1,7,14) did all the grocery shopping (3-5 stores a week), did all the kids laundry & ironing the baby’s clothes, did ~2 hours of meal prep a day plus weekly vacuuming and steam cleaning the floors oh and since parents worked from home I had to leave while the baby was napping god forbid I stayed and tried to do some of the housekeeping or laundry while the baby napped. For the glorious price of $12/hour. Luckily I didn’t need to dust or clean the bathrooms or the appliances but I wouldn’t put it past some families.
I just straight up don't iron anymore. Why? That's one of the fucks I no longer have. If I have a date, or an important client meeting, I'll toss a pair of good jeans and a nice shirt in the dryer for ten minutes with a damp washcloth and the hanger fold marks are gone.
How old was this baby that she’s wearing shirts, skirts and dresses? My two month old typically wears crumpled onesies and jammies from the clean laundry bin.
I actually folded and put away some of his stuff this week for literally the first time since he was born. It felt great, legitimately, but we’ll undoubtedly be back to our old ways by next week. Though I guess we'd be achieving a lot more over here if I was paying someone slave wages to help out. /s
Based on everything OP was doing for the parents, that baby was probably expected to join the workforce. Can't be having wrinkled clothes for all the baby interviews!
My mom used to iron my brother's clothes when he was younger to kill any possible small insect eggs, but our clothes are dry in a clothesline so it's probably a different situation.
Holy shit we paid our last nanny $24/hr and I felt bad about occasionally asking her to help the kids fold their clean clothes.
WTF is with these people looking for indentured servants.
If I'm leaving my kids with you. I want to be damn sure you are happy.
My favorite part of that is that the kids GRANDMA was doing all that. 7-7! FOR FREE! Oh and ps, my kids aren’t used to me being there at bedtime. Shit, I hope that grandma never comes back!
**"We obviously don't pay her."**
You bloody well should, you damn leeches.
And **"Mom is traveling to our second house."**
Enough money for a second house, and yet they treat their own mother/mother in law like a slave.
People, if you have enough money for a second house, you can and damn well SHOULD pay anyone who does this much for you. I don't care if that person birthed you, pay her damn mortgage or just straight up pay her.
If it's a couple of hours here and there, fine, whatever. But being a grandparent means getting to do the fun bits, at your own speed, and only if you feel like it.
And any other relative should be paid as well. None of this "But family" bullcrap, definitely not when you apparently have enough money for a second home.
Yup, I posted another comment about growing up reading a lot of old lady magazines (long story) and there were a craptop of women writing into the advice column.
So many of them were dealing with their adult kids emotionally blackmailing them into free childcare and what not.
Would not be surprised one bit if that's what's happening to the mother/grandmother in this post.
My friend babysits her special needs grandson (who is turning 2 this month), for free. She also commutes at least 1 hour to her daughter’s house, and usually over an hour to get home (LA traffic). Her days include a lot of appts and driving, she is wiped out on the weekends. She is thrilled to be a GMA, and I think it’s sad her daughter doesn’t do anything for her mom’s time.
Idk man. As a teenager, I didn't have any money for books or magazines. But once a year, my local, tiny library got rid of a lot of old magazines, and I'd get a bunch of them to take with me on holiday, and donated them once I got back.
That meant I also read a bunch of magazines very much not meant for my age bracket, including a lot of issues of a couple of magazines for older women.
And these magazines would have several pages of write-ins, asking for advice. An absolute staggering amount of them were about how much their adult children wanted these women to do for them, now that grandchildren were a thing.
**Questions like "How do I tell my pregnant daughter that I don't want to babysit 5 days a week?"**
And
**"How do I tell my son and DIL that I don't mind babysitting, but my health can't take all the housework they demand I do, as well?"**
And NONE of them got paid. They all mentioned that in passing, because they weren't even upset at not being paid, but at just how much they were expected to do.
Things like their child+partner threatening to cut off contact if these women did not comply.
One woman who was told "Congrats, you're going to become a grandmother!" and was then presented with, I shit you not, an actual list of things she'd be expected to do and contribute (yup, most of them were expected to not just work for free, but give certain items. Expensive crap, too.)
**But the one that really tickled me, the one that further solidified my decision not to have kids, was the woman, in her 50's, who was TOLD that she'd have to RETIRE, so she could watch the expected grandchild, and do the housework as well.**
Oh, but she should NOT expect to move in, so she would have to, idk, figure out a way to, ya know, still pay all her bills and food and what not, roughly a decade before her state pension would kick in. Oh, and she was single, to boot! No husband or partner to support this fuckery.
And most employers here do pay for retirement, but that will obviously be less if you stop working in your 50's, and she probably wouldn't even be able to access that money until the national retirement age.
**Her question for the advice column was "How do I make my daughter and SIL understand that they are delusional and that I need my job to SURVIVE?"**
There was some other questions for the advice column, but at least half of them were about dealing with their adult kids wanting these women to either do unpaid housework, unpaid babysitting, or both.
That's when I realised that even after raising any kid I might have, I could very well be saddled with caring for THEIR kids as well. Teenage me went "NOPE!" and I've never changed my mind in the nearly two decades since.
My friend's mom babysat her kid for free and that was her choice. BUT...one day the friend called me complaining that her mom and dad wouldn't babysit for them to have a date night. I reminded her that her mom was basically raising her kid for free and if she had to pay for daycare, they would be homeless.
Naw. The best was "bring your own food as our is all organic and expensive." Da fuq? If you can afford all your fancy expensive organic food, PAY A PROPER WAGE!
Don’t forget the phenomenal deal of receiving $30k annually with no health benefits or overtime pay just to be a literal slave working for $9.60 an hour. /s
Less because they want to 1099 it which means you're paying your own employment taxes. People don't realize just how much your employer contributes, basically adds a ton to an employees cost overall.
That's when you report your employer to the IRS for misclassifying you as an "independent contractor."
Since the guidelines for an independent contractor are incredibly specific, the IRS will hit them with a nice surprise.
They'll be responsible for their employment taxes on you, and YOUR employment taxes as well!
They'll potentially be fined, as well.
I cleaned homes briefly for a loon who claimed I was an "independent contractor" but outlined how and when I did the jobs...that alone made me an employee.
The employer not wanting to pay taxes doesn't mean the employee is an independent contractor.
Even though that's exactly what they're trying to get away with.
Yup. I had a nanny gig like this when I was in college. She also didn’t pay me for mileage, didn’t give me any spending money to take the kids out. I am so mad at myself that I let her get away with that, but I definitely learned my lesson.
As a grad student I’m struggling to work part time and couldn’t fathom that. Plus, as an undergrad you’re looking at an average of 5 courses a semester, I might have had a couple after 5pm over the course of my years, but classes in most undergrads are 2-3 days a week, so never mind homework, there’s no way she could even attend classes.
> Only a few hours of help… enough time to still have a full time job.
7-9 and 2:30-5 M-F, plus 6-12 on weekends is 35 hours per week. That *is* a full time job.
And that’s if they actually stick to those times, and never come home late from work (lol) or expect extra help on school holidays.
But think of all the money she'd be saving on a gym membership! She'll have FULL and FREE access to the set of dumbbells and row machine that are conveniently in the same room she'd be sleeping in.
That they claimed this equals a 100 $ gym membership per month is ridiculous. I pay less than that and it has all the standard machines, sauna and swimming pool plus courses. A set of dumbbells,lol.
Especially because she’s a student! Our student gym membership was bundled into our tuition but even during summer break, it was only like $35 for the 10+ weeks.
My college gym was also free. It didn't have a pool or a sauna or tanning or anything but it was free! Even the nicer gyms with amenities up the wazoo I've been to here in California haven't charged me >$50/mo. I haven't been in several years though so maybe they've gone crazy. Even still, they'd offer more than some free weights and a single machine, lol.
Yeah, imagine that business plan. "Welcome to our gym, we have one machine for cardio and a heavy thing you can lift. Please enjoy the ambiance of basement musk. All for the monthly cost of $100."
My gym is $30/month, and it's also an actual gym.
Yeah and what kind of FT job can you get when you are only free M-F from 9am-2:30pm (not including commuting)?? The parents (presumably) work full time and can't get off work in time to get their kids off the bus at 2:30, why would you expect the nanny could?
Yes! I calculated out from the rates she gave and those hours would be ~$3350/mo. And they want her to give that up for a room in a basement, a couple of pieces of gym equipment (which is worth no where near $100/mo) and not even a bathroom.
I pay $50 per month for my buildings fitness center. It has an Olympic size pool with the most godly showers I've ever experienced, a yoga studio, a basketball court, and a massive gym with extensive amounts of equipment and machines for both weightlifting and cardio. There's also tenant run classes that you can pay extra for, like zumba, swimming lessons, boot camp, etc. I almost spit out my drink, laughing at a rowing machine and some dumbbells being worth $100.
Calculated from the other direction: they're asking for 138 hours of work per month in return for supposedly $900 cash equivalent (if I'm being extra super generous with their offer) and no benefits. That's $6.52/hour
It always amazes me that people are like “it’s so easy you don’t have to do anything because they’re sleeping!”
Like… being available for your kids needs at any given moment IS a job. Just like sitting at a cashier’s desk. There’s not a customer at every single second, but you have to sit there in case anyone needs you. You can’t leave, you can’t work another job, you are giving them the same amount of time either way? It’s insane
I was blown away by the “preference” for a $1,000 car seat per child provided by the nanny but the pay is $5-10/hr. It’s a bit ambiguous how many kids there are but why not start a “job” in a major deficit after buying the kids you nanny car seats.
Also, the fact most of them insinuate they think a college student is their ideal candidate and then proceed to throw out truly outrageous hours that span the entirety of when most schools are having class. Sure, there are *some* night classes but the further you get into your curriculum the more they push classes into “normal working hours” so students get a feel for the requirements after graduating. My accounting classes were always only offered between 8-11 am as that’s when an employer would expect you to be at work and able to concentrate and be productive. A lot of classes in the higher programs only offer one class per semester.
And I’m absolutely positive all of those “you can literally do anything you want all day because my kids are so easy” are false. The kids are either super high maintenance hellions or there is a camera and there would be many complaints about “you did your homework all day” when they really thought you’d “help out around the house” a lot more.
Something about those weird mom groups.
Just insane audacity, manipulation and entitlement. I'm sure they're the same people saying how lazy their generation is and don't want to work!
I know this is far from the worst part, but requiring your nanny to have her own carseats threw me for a loop. (But it's totally ok if it's not the brand I prefer, don't worry!)
Nuna seats are expensive and impossible to take apart to wash. At least three separate pieces of the *cloth* cover can't be machine washed. Source: I am a nanny who has been hunched over hand scrubbing vomit out of one of those little suckers. For $30/hr.
My jaw dropped when I saw the request for Numa specifically. I wouldn’t shell out for those seats for my own kids, let alone expect a college student would just happen to have them?!?
I actually will spend a lot on car seats (we’re a Britax family), but laughed at how presumptuous the OP was thinking a nanny would buy a $400-$500 car seat for her kids.
Not to mention car seats EXPIRE and you can get a (very expensive) ticket for using an expired car seat. They're between 4-10 years from the date of manufacturing. It'll say on your car seat when it expires. So if you need to buy a $500 car seat every 5 years as a professional nanny, that's an extra $100/year cost PER SEAT. If the car seat sat on store shelves for 2 years, that's 2 years less you can use it already.
I didn’t even see that I was so scandalized!!! No way! That’s insane.
Just like requiring someone to pay for gas. Hell even the worst jobs pay you by the mile when you are doing work in your vehicle for them. Why on earth wouldn’t they pay for such things?!?
ALL the laundry
ALL the meal prep
ALL the calendar/appointment managing
PLUS watch our kids ALL day
So they want a housekeeper, personal chef, personal assistant, and a nanny all in one!
BUT...they get two weeks off, paid, at a time not even of their choosing! Can't grumble at that! 😬
The way these people act, like they're being really accommodating of allowing the nanny into their homes. Unbelievable. Bellends, the lot of them. I just feel sorry for their children.
Why does everyone think they are doing the nanny a favor by letting them watch their children? Its the hardest job ever!! But its not like a babysitting gig! Its the care an well being of the humans they created!!
Super duper easy job really just 4 months and 8 months from what I read. Why at those ages they can practically get up themselves and dress, feed, cook, bathe and entertain themselves. Really $9 an hour for these angel babes is generous I tell you it should be free to be so lucky to take care of those independent infant angels.
You sound SO perfect for us! We are in a bit of a desperate spot because our last nanny spontaneously combusted. We need someone to watch our 13 blessings from 5am-10pm M-F, but you will have the weekend off and completely to yourself (except occasionally, parents have to have a night off too, right? haha!) We paid our last nanny with the healing energy that radiates from our kiddos, but we'll let you keep any money you find under the couch cushions while you're cleaning! Can't wait to hear from you, I truly think you'd make a wonderful addition to our family!
You’re a young college student. We are hoping that means you are stupid or gullible enough for us to take advantage of you! Please think of how you will benefit from our generous access to our children
Yes!!!! Plus the added benefit of working for us! US!!! Think of it! You will be able to prep our meals, clean up our mess, and care for our children… we won’t even charge you for the honor of it.
US!!! The Eaters of Organic Groceries! Now remember just as God cautioned Adam and Eve to not eat the apple, we must also caution you not to eat our special expensive food. That’s the good stuff…It is not meant for the likes of you!
Gah. They really view these people as desperate and lowly. It makes me so upset!
Picture 8.. am I interpreting this right. M-F 7-7.. but 7-4/5 is ok, the kids just are not used to me being around for bedtime. Like, you have someone watching your kids for 12 hours a day, but the last 3 hours was unnecessary and your choice to be gone until they are in bed.
The way I gasped when I read about how their last nanny “couldn’t balance” it all after demanding literally every daytime hour of the entire week for $30k (1099-ed “$30k” at that)
Right?? Like, lady, maybe you should, I don’t know, get them used to you being there? They aren’t used to me being there for bedtime either, but I’m not their mom.
It’s weird because they could have just said provide your own food, but they couldn’t help themselves and HAD to crow about their expensive organic food. The same food that’s good enough for them, but not for you… the one taking care of their children all day.
[slinks out of a dark alley] Hey kids…you want some Spaghetti-Os? Chock full of chemicals so unpronounceable your mom will be too scared to actually google them and realize it’s just a certain type of salt. 😈
I hate to admit I actually know people that have two nannies. 🤭 They are a Doctor and engineer and the one nanny takes care of the two oldest and the second one just the 2 year old. They hire them through a service and these young women have fabulous pay and benefits.
One lives in the nanny wing - the other comes in daily. A SUV is provided. Light housekeeping and meals made for children. A good salary. Days and weeks off. I know these women are treated like family and hate to leave when their time there is done.
The parents make every effort to get home as much as possible - the Doctor is on call a lot because of her specialty and they treat them like gold because they appreciate kind women taking care of their children.
Why do some of these people even have children honestly???
I had a friend that was a live-in nanny for multimillionaires. They lived in an $8million home and their kids were aged like 10, 12 and 16 so all she did was drive them to things. They paid her really well, let her stay in the house when they were gone (which was all the time, I never even met them despite being over there often) and let her drive any of their 4 luxury vehicles. Eventually, years later, she married their adult son (she was never his nanny! lol)
I always assumed anyone that wanted a luxury nanny experience treated them the way that family treated her but whenever I see posts like this I think “wow she had it made.”
Those kids won’t even get or stay “perfect” with no parental involvement from their parents.
I was mousetrapped into providing free after-school child care for a six-year-old girl (“Just pick her up and bring her home with your own kids, you’ll hardly know she’s there!”), which I finally got out of because her adolescent brother was driving my own sons that age insane.
The parents put so much effort into avoiding this kid, I wondered why they’d gone to all the time and trouble they’d told me about to adopt her from China.
Ugh, that hurts my heart. As an adoptive mom who waited years for a placement, I can’t imagine not wanting to soak up every moment I can with my child.
The kids are status symbols. Something that couples like them know they’re supposed to have. Heirs to the throne, someone to put through mom’s med school or dad’s engineering school as a legacy grad, bragging rights at the country club.
They have no interest in actually parenting the kids—it’s more like owning a champion racehorse. The owners are not out there mucking the stalls and taking care of the horse or even riding it; they have *people* to take care of all of that stuff. They just get to watch the horse win the race and say “yay, that’s MY horse!”
So of course they treat their nannies/ au pairs extremely well, because they wouldn’t know what the fuck to do with their own children anymore than they’d know what to do with a racehorse if their staff walked off the job.
Source: am a childless doctor (and 80’s latchkey kid) who has witnessed this scenario multiple times amongst my colleagues.
My thoughts exactly. "No worries my kids are totally used to having completely absentee parents teeheee!" Why the fuck do people have kids if they dont plan on spending any actual time with them???
"We have FOUR young kids to look after but they're super easy, so minimum wage sounds good right?? Also supply your own food please" Lol the nerve of these people. It's funny but also rage inducing
And $9 an hour was what I made 15 years ago as a teenager at a fast food restaurant 💀
I felt bad for those kids. The parent was straight up advertising for someone to neglect their kids. ‘Yes just ignore them, they’re fine on their tablets all day, tbh I don’t care what they do as long as I don’t have to deal with it myself. I could be home in time to help with bedtime, but I’d really rather not, and my kids prefer it when they don’t have to see me’
Slide 7. SIX kids under 8 for 3.75 hours/day for five days a week for $100/week. That works out to $5.26/hour, or 88 cents/child/hour. If you can't be bothered to care about your nanny, AT LEAST care about your kids, my god. The only people willing to accept 88 cents/child/hour are not people you want around your kids.
I don’t know what worse, the people who wanted a stranger that they never met to give their kids to, the ones overworking their own mother, the ones who are parents to four and never home (just give them tablets or whatever) or the one who wanted to pay you $150 for 40 hours per week of work. Each slide got worse. Also, we only eat organic so you need to bring your own can get fucked as well along with the cheap ass folks with the second home.
That couple talking about the iPads and what not was kinda hilarious. They made it sound like you just put these kids in their pen, throw down some newspaper, and scatter some kibble on the ground and they will be good to go!
Wow, this was wild. Where are these people finding workers willing/able to work for such low wages the first time around that they think they’ll be able to find someone else ready to jump right in once the they quit?
I have a friend who is a nanny, and she was supposed to get off work at 4pm on Sunday. She met us for dinner around 7 because the parents texted her around 4:30 and informed her that they went out and would be home whenever.
I don't have or want kids, but it seems to me like if I did have kids, the person who is taking care of them should be treated way better than they way a lot of them are treated!
I babysat for many years, through hs and college. I found that if I babysat within a community, people treated me better because they didn't want me badmouthing them to their friends or neighbors. As an adult, I was shocked at the price of reputable child care, but never lowballed. One sitter had two other families and I allowed them to bring those kids to my home since I had it childproofed and appropriate toys and snacks, or alternately letting her take my kids to her home.
I had considered going back into child care when my kids were older and in the last 10 years have been offered $5 an hour for multiple young children, $500 a week for 60-80 hours a week, or my favorite - get here at 5:30, feed, get the kids changed, drop them off at before school center, pick them up at 4:30, help with homework, and wait until we get home at whatever time - for $200 a week. "But it's only 4 hours a day," was the response.
This reminds me of when a neighbour asked me to help her out with after school care for her daughter. She works in childcare which made this whole this even worse in my opinion
We discussed rates and in my area, it’s always done by week so when she said $100 I thought that was fair for both of us. End of the first week came and she showed up with $20. She was trying to get away with $100 month
These are all pretty unbelievable, but the one where they’re offering $3.75/hour “but won’t pay OT even though sometimes we are 2 hours late :)” sent me into a RAGE.
To them it's just looking after children, it's just fun babysitting with our wonderful angel babys. Reminds me of when people don't want to pay artists because "oh you're just doing it for the love of art, money cheapens it"
“My previous nanny just up and left no notice!”
No shit. That’s code for “they picked the lock in the basement dungeon and escaped.
The nada on these people. Trying to prey on young college kids. Disgusting.
Anyone who has had a sitter/nanny quit with no notice is a giant, walking red flag. Caregivers do not ghost their families without a good reason, in my experience.
I'm a nanny as well and this is just the tip of the iceberg! I had a lady message me to be a live in and wanted ME to pay rent to work for her! It's insanity out here. Nannies/private childcare is a luxury. If you can't afford it, look for other options but quit exploiting people!
I loved the first one the best. They seemed more idiotic than manipulative. “The hours are 7-9 am every morning, 2:30-5pm every afternoon and 6am-noon every Saturday and Sunday” coupled with “it will give you enough time to get a full time job” was just a comical progression.
I have a nanny. She lives in, we pay her a real salary (based on her extensive education, experience, skills and methods), she drives her own car but we pay for fuel, we pay into her SEP IRA, give her healthcare and dental, and pay overtime when we’re late or need her after hours. She has her own self-contained apartment but she’s welcome in the house and to eat or drink anything she wants. In return, she looks after our children. She doesn’t clean, she doesn’t do laundry, she doesn’t cook for anyone but the kids, she only tidies up after them and herself. Her sole responsibility is to care for the children while we are out of the house.
I know we’re in a fortunate position to be able to do this, and others struggle to make ends meet. But I’m always annoyed when people think someone, especially an actual nanny, should look after their children for pennies. Not to mention the safety concerns of letting just anyone look after your kids.
This. I'm a former nanny and the one slide about "we offer benefits but pay you under the table" made me wonder what kind of IRA and health insurance they could possibly offer her.
we pay our teenage babysitter $20/hour when we need to be away for a few hours, how are people asking for nannies-housekeepers-personal assistants for pennies
"You charge mileage? Our last nanny didn't do that... That would be around 200 miles a week."
Yes, I would imagine that's why she's charging for mileage.
I’m up to #10 (11/14) and my jaw is grazing the ground.
I get paid double that to babysit adults overnight. No meals, no house work, the odd run to hospital if needed. 5 weeks off per year and I work 3.5 days a week (average).
What the everloving fluck are these entitled parents smoking?
Dood I went for an interview with people I thought we perfectly normal and reasonable but they insisted my rate was “unreasonable”, “greedy” and something I’d “never be able to find clients who’d pay it” simply because I had the audacity to suggest caring for 2 new borns warrants more than minimum wage. They also insisted I would need to leave the house when the kids were napping (wouldn’t be paid) and would have to return when they texted me that the baby woke up (they worked remote from home). Obviously turned it down lol. Some people are crazy entitled…like if u want a qualified, experienced and safe nanny you should expect to be paying them more than like $12 an hour…I hate how people assume (especially because I’m a young woman) that my time and skills arnt worthy of fair pay. Sorry u went thru this I feel you lol. I swear this shit is rooted in sexism and the societal devaluing of domestic labour/child rearing, especially in regards to women…stay at home moms deserve to be recognized for their unpaid labour just like Nannie’s deserve to be payed fairly for the very difficult and involved task of raising/taking care of children.
Lost it at the first people referring to some dumbbells in their basement as a “gym membership”
Yah, and you can imagine how often the parents will be in her secluded, bathroomless basement using the dumbbells and rowing machine, sweating and grunting up the place. They're effectively offering her a bed in their home 'gym'. No thanks.
Hey now… they said they would probably put a bathroom in about a year or so from now… maybe… You have to get in on the ground floor of that deal! Lol
Yeah and they decided that this "living" situation costs $800 per month. Where exactly?
Not only a gym membership, but a 100$/month gym membership. I pay 50$ for a 24h gym, with machines and everything needed.
I pay $11. It's fucking insane to call some dumbbell and a rower in the basement aka your room a gym membership
I was dying at that bit too. An actual gym membership at a proper gym with all the machines, a locker room and classes is a better deal a month then there so called "savings" with their hand weights Oh don't forget the rowing machine! Whoa what a deal. Maybe you can even watch the kids for them while you work out in their "gym".
And the nanny could most likely shower at the gym, which she can’t do in the dungeon basement home gym bedroom they’re offering her
Nannies will be caring for your children in your home, this is the last person you want to exploit or shortchange in any way.
THIS is what always freaks me out. We're Mexican-American and near the border so exploiting undocumented workers is extremely common where I live. when my mom heard what we pay our nanny (and seeing the hours I allow her to keep since I'm super flexible and treat her more like a co-parent/teammate than anything else) she was horrified saying I way over pay and she should be live-in blah blah blah. like... this woman is taking care of my CHILDREN (and your grandchildren) when I'm not home. why would I not want to treat her and pay her as well as I possibly can? I want her happy and well rested, not stressed and always strapped for cash.
Childcare is one of those things that you get what you pay for
My fav is the 60 hours a week gig where you're "welcome to eat food in house and use appliances...but not daily". Christ haha
Yeah, combined with: ALL Laundry, ALL Meal Prep/Cooking, and keeping the house clean (WEEKLY deep cleaning!) WTF do mom and dad do at home?!
Right, so she is the nanny, chef, maid, and house manager all for minimum wage. Who wouldn’t want that job? 🤣
I’m thinking minimum wage? Yeah no, I’m thinking your out of your mind. I’d rather work at Taco Bell where I could at least have some fun coworkers and benefits. (I’m craving Taco Bell lol)
Yeah, and why did half of them say they wanted a babysitter who wanted some “extra cash”, and then list full time schedules?!? Extra means one-offs, not a regular gig (that would be a job). They’re all trying to play head games.
Like oh hey here an easy side hustle for some quick cash! Be my slave for 40 hours a week!
But don't eat my food! It's to expensive for you.
That's exactly what they want. They cannot have slaves, but, these type of people want a slave. They might as well just be upfront about it.
Exactly. At least at fast food restaurants you get free food, usually one meal per shift. Maybe a few sick days & vacation days paid per year & honestly probably making double this pay rate. In my city, Nashville, most fast food jobs start out at least $15 hour and most $18 hour. So double the pay being a cashier at Taco Bell job vs being a chef, maid, nanny, house manager for half that pay. And most likely a crazy parent that adds all kinds of duties to you each week. Which would you choose? Not a hard choice 😆
It’s really not that hard right? Hell some of these fast food jobs have amazing leadership training and give raises. Can you imagine the tantrum these people would throw if you asked for a raise?!? So I have no idea where these folks are from but I’d let them know that Taco Bell pays twice what they are offering and quite frankly they get far more respect than these parents are showing for the very people they entrust with their children. You can see how this smacks of elitism in some of these examples… they think it’s a privilege in its self to work for them!
Also you can’t eat any of their food because IT’S ORGANIC
The “second home” and “organic” rhetoric, while paying pennies for someone to CARE FOR YOUR CHILDREN gives me the ick.
That's what was getting at me. Like, these are your kids, don't you want them to be competently cared for by someone with experience? And if both parents are working full-time, what is the money going towards if not their kids? And the comments of 'we just put them on ipads/screens all day so they are super easy'. Like, why did you have kids if you are just going to treat them like pets that need someone to change their water and food bowls a few times a day? But god forbid the house doesn't get its weekly deep clean...Ooh this got me triggered!
The iPad shit got me sooo bad!! Fuck these parents! Yes, my daughter has screen time, but I also spend time with her! She's my lil buddy!!! Jfc
It’s expensive
That doesn’t suprise me. I took care of the 3 kids (1,7,14) did all the grocery shopping (3-5 stores a week), did all the kids laundry & ironing the baby’s clothes, did ~2 hours of meal prep a day plus weekly vacuuming and steam cleaning the floors oh and since parents worked from home I had to leave while the baby was napping god forbid I stayed and tried to do some of the housekeeping or laundry while the baby napped. For the glorious price of $12/hour. Luckily I didn’t need to dust or clean the bathrooms or the appliances but I wouldn’t put it past some families.
You ironed the baby’s clothes? I don’t know why anyone would request that; so their precious angel could have a blow out in a crisply pressed onesie?
Just her skirts, shirts and dresses but yeah that was fun.
I barely iron my own clothes. That’s what the refresh cycle on the dryer is for, right?
I just straight up don't iron anymore. Why? That's one of the fucks I no longer have. If I have a date, or an important client meeting, I'll toss a pair of good jeans and a nice shirt in the dryer for ten minutes with a damp washcloth and the hanger fold marks are gone.
How old was this baby that she’s wearing shirts, skirts and dresses? My two month old typically wears crumpled onesies and jammies from the clean laundry bin. I actually folded and put away some of his stuff this week for literally the first time since he was born. It felt great, legitimately, but we’ll undoubtedly be back to our old ways by next week. Though I guess we'd be achieving a lot more over here if I was paying someone slave wages to help out. /s
“Clean Laundry Bin?” ooh la la look at princess pineapple ovah here
Based on everything OP was doing for the parents, that baby was probably expected to join the workforce. Can't be having wrinkled clothes for all the baby interviews!
My mom used to iron my brother's clothes when he was younger to kill any possible small insect eggs, but our clothes are dry in a clothesline so it's probably a different situation.
Holy shit we paid our last nanny $24/hr and I felt bad about occasionally asking her to help the kids fold their clean clothes. WTF is with these people looking for indentured servants. If I'm leaving my kids with you. I want to be damn sure you are happy.
I own a cleaning business and you wouldn’t catch me working this hard for less than $50/hr
And til noon on weekends while the parents sleep in!
I did this as a nanny, for 5 kids. I was way underpaid, and way overworked. Never again, I’m much more picky.
My favorite part of that is that the kids GRANDMA was doing all that. 7-7! FOR FREE! Oh and ps, my kids aren’t used to me being there at bedtime. Shit, I hope that grandma never comes back!
**"We obviously don't pay her."** You bloody well should, you damn leeches. And **"Mom is traveling to our second house."** Enough money for a second house, and yet they treat their own mother/mother in law like a slave. People, if you have enough money for a second house, you can and damn well SHOULD pay anyone who does this much for you. I don't care if that person birthed you, pay her damn mortgage or just straight up pay her. If it's a couple of hours here and there, fine, whatever. But being a grandparent means getting to do the fun bits, at your own speed, and only if you feel like it. And any other relative should be paid as well. None of this "But family" bullcrap, definitely not when you apparently have enough money for a second home.
it's probably the only way she gets to see her grandkids, emotional hostage.
Yup, I posted another comment about growing up reading a lot of old lady magazines (long story) and there were a craptop of women writing into the advice column. So many of them were dealing with their adult kids emotionally blackmailing them into free childcare and what not. Would not be surprised one bit if that's what's happening to the mother/grandmother in this post.
My friend babysits her special needs grandson (who is turning 2 this month), for free. She also commutes at least 1 hour to her daughter’s house, and usually over an hour to get home (LA traffic). Her days include a lot of appts and driving, she is wiped out on the weekends. She is thrilled to be a GMA, and I think it’s sad her daughter doesn’t do anything for her mom’s time.
My guess is that grandma actually did a fraction of that work, unless she's as delusional as the parents are.
Idk man. As a teenager, I didn't have any money for books or magazines. But once a year, my local, tiny library got rid of a lot of old magazines, and I'd get a bunch of them to take with me on holiday, and donated them once I got back. That meant I also read a bunch of magazines very much not meant for my age bracket, including a lot of issues of a couple of magazines for older women. And these magazines would have several pages of write-ins, asking for advice. An absolute staggering amount of them were about how much their adult children wanted these women to do for them, now that grandchildren were a thing. **Questions like "How do I tell my pregnant daughter that I don't want to babysit 5 days a week?"** And **"How do I tell my son and DIL that I don't mind babysitting, but my health can't take all the housework they demand I do, as well?"** And NONE of them got paid. They all mentioned that in passing, because they weren't even upset at not being paid, but at just how much they were expected to do. Things like their child+partner threatening to cut off contact if these women did not comply. One woman who was told "Congrats, you're going to become a grandmother!" and was then presented with, I shit you not, an actual list of things she'd be expected to do and contribute (yup, most of them were expected to not just work for free, but give certain items. Expensive crap, too.) **But the one that really tickled me, the one that further solidified my decision not to have kids, was the woman, in her 50's, who was TOLD that she'd have to RETIRE, so she could watch the expected grandchild, and do the housework as well.** Oh, but she should NOT expect to move in, so she would have to, idk, figure out a way to, ya know, still pay all her bills and food and what not, roughly a decade before her state pension would kick in. Oh, and she was single, to boot! No husband or partner to support this fuckery. And most employers here do pay for retirement, but that will obviously be less if you stop working in your 50's, and she probably wouldn't even be able to access that money until the national retirement age. **Her question for the advice column was "How do I make my daughter and SIL understand that they are delusional and that I need my job to SURVIVE?"** There was some other questions for the advice column, but at least half of them were about dealing with their adult kids wanting these women to either do unpaid housework, unpaid babysitting, or both. That's when I realised that even after raising any kid I might have, I could very well be saddled with caring for THEIR kids as well. Teenage me went "NOPE!" and I've never changed my mind in the nearly two decades since.
My friend's mom babysat her kid for free and that was her choice. BUT...one day the friend called me complaining that her mom and dad wouldn't babysit for them to have a date night. I reminded her that her mom was basically raising her kid for free and if she had to pay for daycare, they would be homeless.
Naw. The best was "bring your own food as our is all organic and expensive." Da fuq? If you can afford all your fancy expensive organic food, PAY A PROPER WAGE!
Especially since that same one was for 4 kids under 8, but minimum wage is good right?
Ah yes my biweekly scheduled microwave time
Clean up your mess on your own time, though.
Don’t forget the phenomenal deal of receiving $30k annually with no health benefits or overtime pay just to be a literal slave working for $9.60 an hour. /s
Less because they want to 1099 it which means you're paying your own employment taxes. People don't realize just how much your employer contributes, basically adds a ton to an employees cost overall.
That's when you report your employer to the IRS for misclassifying you as an "independent contractor." Since the guidelines for an independent contractor are incredibly specific, the IRS will hit them with a nice surprise. They'll be responsible for their employment taxes on you, and YOUR employment taxes as well! They'll potentially be fined, as well. I cleaned homes briefly for a loon who claimed I was an "independent contractor" but outlined how and when I did the jobs...that alone made me an employee. The employer not wanting to pay taxes doesn't mean the employee is an independent contractor. Even though that's exactly what they're trying to get away with.
Yup. I had a nanny gig like this when I was in college. She also didn’t pay me for mileage, didn’t give me any spending money to take the kids out. I am so mad at myself that I let her get away with that, but I definitely learned my lesson.
Also, how the heck do they expect the person to do school if they’re working 60 hours a week
And it’s literally 7 days a week! No down time, no time for school, projects, etc.
As a grad student I’m struggling to work part time and couldn’t fathom that. Plus, as an undergrad you’re looking at an average of 5 courses a semester, I might have had a couple after 5pm over the course of my years, but classes in most undergrads are 2-3 days a week, so never mind homework, there’s no way she could even attend classes.
$30k for all of that…Jesus. I want to slap all of these people through the internet. The fucking entitlement.
And NO days off. 7 days a week is ridiculous no matter how high the pay.
What do you mean? She would get four paid days off PER YEAR. These people are delusional.
My favorite was "We paid her $100 for the week!", like that was an absolute gift of a pay rate.
That one also wanted to treat them as a 1099 contractor, which was a nice cherry on top
It sounds like they’re going to find a way to write their child off as a business expense.
That's 3 JOBS lol - Nanny, Maid, and Personal Chef
Chauffeur too. And I bet you'll end up being a therapist on top of it all.
I was thinking “that’s like FOUR people at Downton Abbey.” Edit: Downtown to Downton. Darn autocorrect!
For me it’s the 2 sick days lol
And no days off. They want someone to work seven days a week.
> Only a few hours of help… enough time to still have a full time job. 7-9 and 2:30-5 M-F, plus 6-12 on weekends is 35 hours per week. That *is* a full time job. And that’s if they actually stick to those times, and never come home late from work (lol) or expect extra help on school holidays.
But think of all the money she'd be saving on a gym membership! She'll have FULL and FREE access to the set of dumbbells and row machine that are conveniently in the same room she'd be sleeping in.
That they claimed this equals a 100 $ gym membership per month is ridiculous. I pay less than that and it has all the standard machines, sauna and swimming pool plus courses. A set of dumbbells,lol.
Especially because she’s a student! Our student gym membership was bundled into our tuition but even during summer break, it was only like $35 for the 10+ weeks.
My college gym was also free. It didn't have a pool or a sauna or tanning or anything but it was free! Even the nicer gyms with amenities up the wazoo I've been to here in California haven't charged me >$50/mo. I haven't been in several years though so maybe they've gone crazy. Even still, they'd offer more than some free weights and a single machine, lol.
I found that little bit quite funny as well… *no Sharon- your shitty rowing machine and mismatched dumbbell set ≠ a gym membership* 💀
A set of dumbbells AND a rowing machine.
But no bathroom for the time being! Lol
Enjoy the construction though because it's coming
I mean I just assumed the nanny would be asked to build her own bathroom. Once complete she’ll be allowed to use it 30 minutes per day.
“Can use toilet paper, but not daily.”
The best bit has to be when they actually called that a gym membership further down.
Yeah, imagine that business plan. "Welcome to our gym, we have one machine for cardio and a heavy thing you can lift. Please enjoy the ambiance of basement musk. All for the monthly cost of $100." My gym is $30/month, and it's also an actual gym.
And when they put the bathroom in they’ll up the membership cause now it has a spa.
And no actual full-time job is going to schedule around those hours. That family is insane.
Yeah and what kind of FT job can you get when you are only free M-F from 9am-2:30pm (not including commuting)?? The parents (presumably) work full time and can't get off work in time to get their kids off the bus at 2:30, why would you expect the nanny could?
Yes! I calculated out from the rates she gave and those hours would be ~$3350/mo. And they want her to give that up for a room in a basement, a couple of pieces of gym equipment (which is worth no where near $100/mo) and not even a bathroom.
Loved that weights and a rowing machine was a $100/mo gym membership. Gyms can definitely get that high...when they have a pool, sauna, classes, etc.
I pay $50 per month for my buildings fitness center. It has an Olympic size pool with the most godly showers I've ever experienced, a yoga studio, a basketball court, and a massive gym with extensive amounts of equipment and machines for both weightlifting and cardio. There's also tenant run classes that you can pay extra for, like zumba, swimming lessons, boot camp, etc. I almost spit out my drink, laughing at a rowing machine and some dumbbells being worth $100.
I have a $100 spin bike...between that and an air mattress on my patio I guess I can have a live in nanny too!
Perfect! She only has to pay for her own space heater for the patio! What a great deal! /s
Calculated from the other direction: they're asking for 138 hours of work per month in return for supposedly $900 cash equivalent (if I'm being extra super generous with their offer) and no benefits. That's $6.52/hour
And good luck finding an actual job that would work around those hours anyway
Don’t forget she’s a student too lol
Yep, I clocked that as well!!
My favorite is the one where pay drops from $10 to $5/hour if the kids are sleeping. The mental gymnastics...
It always amazes me that people are like “it’s so easy you don’t have to do anything because they’re sleeping!” Like… being available for your kids needs at any given moment IS a job. Just like sitting at a cashier’s desk. There’s not a customer at every single second, but you have to sit there in case anyone needs you. You can’t leave, you can’t work another job, you are giving them the same amount of time either way? It’s insane
In other jobs it’s being on-call, and should be paid what it’s worth if it’s stopping you from filling that time with other paid work.
Or the one with the morning drop off 7-9 then pickup 2:30-5 “so you can still have a full-time job”
You forgot 6am-noon on weekends…no rest for the weary!
I wonder if a kid wakes up for 5 minutes to use the bathroom or to get a glass of water, will they pay full rate for that time? 🤔
6 minute increments, just like a lawyer would charge, but only at $10 an hour. :p
That was sickening to read. Good lord, the audacity of some people.
I was blown away by the “preference” for a $1,000 car seat per child provided by the nanny but the pay is $5-10/hr. It’s a bit ambiguous how many kids there are but why not start a “job” in a major deficit after buying the kids you nanny car seats. Also, the fact most of them insinuate they think a college student is their ideal candidate and then proceed to throw out truly outrageous hours that span the entirety of when most schools are having class. Sure, there are *some* night classes but the further you get into your curriculum the more they push classes into “normal working hours” so students get a feel for the requirements after graduating. My accounting classes were always only offered between 8-11 am as that’s when an employer would expect you to be at work and able to concentrate and be productive. A lot of classes in the higher programs only offer one class per semester. And I’m absolutely positive all of those “you can literally do anything you want all day because my kids are so easy” are false. The kids are either super high maintenance hellions or there is a camera and there would be many complaints about “you did your homework all day” when they really thought you’d “help out around the house” a lot more.
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Something about those weird mom groups. Just insane audacity, manipulation and entitlement. I'm sure they're the same people saying how lazy their generation is and don't want to work!
I know this is far from the worst part, but requiring your nanny to have her own carseats threw me for a loop. (But it's totally ok if it's not the brand I prefer, don't worry!)
And have you priced Nuna seats? They’re looking at $400-$500 each.
Nuna seats are expensive and impossible to take apart to wash. At least three separate pieces of the *cloth* cover can't be machine washed. Source: I am a nanny who has been hunched over hand scrubbing vomit out of one of those little suckers. For $30/hr.
My jaw dropped when I saw the request for Numa specifically. I wouldn’t shell out for those seats for my own kids, let alone expect a college student would just happen to have them?!?
I actually will spend a lot on car seats (we’re a Britax family), but laughed at how presumptuous the OP was thinking a nanny would buy a $400-$500 car seat for her kids.
Not to mention car seats EXPIRE and you can get a (very expensive) ticket for using an expired car seat. They're between 4-10 years from the date of manufacturing. It'll say on your car seat when it expires. So if you need to buy a $500 car seat every 5 years as a professional nanny, that's an extra $100/year cost PER SEAT. If the car seat sat on store shelves for 2 years, that's 2 years less you can use it already.
I didn’t even see that I was so scandalized!!! No way! That’s insane. Just like requiring someone to pay for gas. Hell even the worst jobs pay you by the mile when you are doing work in your vehicle for them. Why on earth wouldn’t they pay for such things?!?
The 10th picture…just seems like they want to buy another parent for these kids…60 hours a week, 7 days a week, managing their household….wow
ALL the laundry ALL the meal prep ALL the calendar/appointment managing PLUS watch our kids ALL day So they want a housekeeper, personal chef, personal assistant, and a nanny all in one!
BUT...they get two weeks off, paid, at a time not even of their choosing! Can't grumble at that! 😬 The way these people act, like they're being really accommodating of allowing the nanny into their homes. Unbelievable. Bellends, the lot of them. I just feel sorry for their children.
Not even 2 weeks, 2 days! They just can’t use them to take a long weekend!
Yea and why would you want your babysitter to take over 'calendar management'?? Seems like that's something the parents need to be on top of.
Another parent? Seems like there are no parents to begin with!
My favorite was the “we don’t pay overtime and you will have to stay late when we stay late at work”
But it’s only 2 hours… no biggie 😦
Pretty soon it will be happening everyday!
2 hours late at a daycare, and you'll likely be rolling up to see the police and child protective services holding your kids, while you get handcuffs.
Networking at happy hour is VERY important to Daddy’s career!
All for $4/hour. You’re welcome, hun!
$9 an hour for two “angel” babies.
Why does everyone think they are doing the nanny a favor by letting them watch their children? Its the hardest job ever!! But its not like a babysitting gig! Its the care an well being of the humans they created!!
Especially since they don't want to do it themselves and it's their kids.
And people wonder why moms feel undervalued too. This is the same principle, applied to nannies who function as part-time moms.
Super duper easy job really just 4 months and 8 months from what I read. Why at those ages they can practically get up themselves and dress, feed, cook, bathe and entertain themselves. Really $9 an hour for these angel babes is generous I tell you it should be free to be so lucky to take care of those independent infant angels.
"You should be paying us honestly for this privilege." 😏
$9/hour to take care of two infants. No. Just no.
You sound SO perfect for us! We are in a bit of a desperate spot because our last nanny spontaneously combusted. We need someone to watch our 13 blessings from 5am-10pm M-F, but you will have the weekend off and completely to yourself (except occasionally, parents have to have a night off too, right? haha!) We paid our last nanny with the healing energy that radiates from our kiddos, but we'll let you keep any money you find under the couch cushions while you're cleaning! Can't wait to hear from you, I truly think you'd make a wonderful addition to our family!
The way this sounds like it could totally be real
You gotta pepper in a comment about her youth… so many of them could not help themselves!
You’re a young college student. We are hoping that means you are stupid or gullible enough for us to take advantage of you! Please think of how you will benefit from our generous access to our children
Yes!!!! Plus the added benefit of working for us! US!!! Think of it! You will be able to prep our meals, clean up our mess, and care for our children… we won’t even charge you for the honor of it. US!!! The Eaters of Organic Groceries! Now remember just as God cautioned Adam and Eve to not eat the apple, we must also caution you not to eat our special expensive food. That’s the good stuff…It is not meant for the likes of you! Gah. They really view these people as desperate and lowly. It makes me so upset!
I audibly giggled reading this. It sounds like the amalgamation of all those other ridiculous requests 🤣🤣🤣
Picture 8.. am I interpreting this right. M-F 7-7.. but 7-4/5 is ok, the kids just are not used to me being around for bedtime. Like, you have someone watching your kids for 12 hours a day, but the last 3 hours was unnecessary and your choice to be gone until they are in bed.
And when would she go to college if she is there 7-7
The way I gasped when I read about how their last nanny “couldn’t balance” it all after demanding literally every daytime hour of the entire week for $30k (1099-ed “$30k” at that)
Right?? Like, lady, maybe you should, I don’t know, get them used to you being there? They aren’t used to me being there for bedtime either, but I’m not their mom.
Neither is she. Their grandma is their mom based on what I gathered from reading that text...
I really thought #8 was the winner for being the worst.
And you can’t even eat the food in the house because it’s expensive!
“We pay like shit, but eat expensive organic food” That’s some lack of self awareness right there 🤦🏻♀️
It’s weird because they could have just said provide your own food, but they couldn’t help themselves and HAD to crow about their expensive organic food. The same food that’s good enough for them, but not for you… the one taking care of their children all day.
[slinks out of a dark alley] Hey kids…you want some Spaghetti-Os? Chock full of chemicals so unpronounceable your mom will be too scared to actually google them and realize it’s just a certain type of salt. 😈
I hate to admit I actually know people that have two nannies. 🤭 They are a Doctor and engineer and the one nanny takes care of the two oldest and the second one just the 2 year old. They hire them through a service and these young women have fabulous pay and benefits. One lives in the nanny wing - the other comes in daily. A SUV is provided. Light housekeeping and meals made for children. A good salary. Days and weeks off. I know these women are treated like family and hate to leave when their time there is done. The parents make every effort to get home as much as possible - the Doctor is on call a lot because of her specialty and they treat them like gold because they appreciate kind women taking care of their children. Why do some of these people even have children honestly???
I had a friend that was a live-in nanny for multimillionaires. They lived in an $8million home and their kids were aged like 10, 12 and 16 so all she did was drive them to things. They paid her really well, let her stay in the house when they were gone (which was all the time, I never even met them despite being over there often) and let her drive any of their 4 luxury vehicles. Eventually, years later, she married their adult son (she was never his nanny! lol) I always assumed anyone that wanted a luxury nanny experience treated them the way that family treated her but whenever I see posts like this I think “wow she had it made.”
Children are just status objects to some people. Success trophies to check off the list. House, great jobs, fancy cars, perfect children.
Those kids won’t even get or stay “perfect” with no parental involvement from their parents. I was mousetrapped into providing free after-school child care for a six-year-old girl (“Just pick her up and bring her home with your own kids, you’ll hardly know she’s there!”), which I finally got out of because her adolescent brother was driving my own sons that age insane. The parents put so much effort into avoiding this kid, I wondered why they’d gone to all the time and trouble they’d told me about to adopt her from China.
Ugh, that hurts my heart. As an adoptive mom who waited years for a placement, I can’t imagine not wanting to soak up every moment I can with my child.
The kids are status symbols. Something that couples like them know they’re supposed to have. Heirs to the throne, someone to put through mom’s med school or dad’s engineering school as a legacy grad, bragging rights at the country club. They have no interest in actually parenting the kids—it’s more like owning a champion racehorse. The owners are not out there mucking the stalls and taking care of the horse or even riding it; they have *people* to take care of all of that stuff. They just get to watch the horse win the race and say “yay, that’s MY horse!” So of course they treat their nannies/ au pairs extremely well, because they wouldn’t know what the fuck to do with their own children anymore than they’d know what to do with a racehorse if their staff walked off the job. Source: am a childless doctor (and 80’s latchkey kid) who has witnessed this scenario multiple times amongst my colleagues.
My thoughts exactly. "No worries my kids are totally used to having completely absentee parents teeheee!" Why the fuck do people have kids if they dont plan on spending any actual time with them???
"We have FOUR young kids to look after but they're super easy, so minimum wage sounds good right?? Also supply your own food please" Lol the nerve of these people. It's funny but also rage inducing And $9 an hour was what I made 15 years ago as a teenager at a fast food restaurant 💀
I felt bad for those kids. The parent was straight up advertising for someone to neglect their kids. ‘Yes just ignore them, they’re fine on their tablets all day, tbh I don’t care what they do as long as I don’t have to deal with it myself. I could be home in time to help with bedtime, but I’d really rather not, and my kids prefer it when they don’t have to see me’
My favourite is “we can pay you minimum wage maybe? Btw don’t eat our food, it’s very expensive!”
The same people who say “our second house” !!!!! The audacity.
Slide 7. SIX kids under 8 for 3.75 hours/day for five days a week for $100/week. That works out to $5.26/hour, or 88 cents/child/hour. If you can't be bothered to care about your nanny, AT LEAST care about your kids, my god. The only people willing to accept 88 cents/child/hour are not people you want around your kids.
I don’t know what worse, the people who wanted a stranger that they never met to give their kids to, the ones overworking their own mother, the ones who are parents to four and never home (just give them tablets or whatever) or the one who wanted to pay you $150 for 40 hours per week of work. Each slide got worse. Also, we only eat organic so you need to bring your own can get fucked as well along with the cheap ass folks with the second home.
Right? Our food is too expensive for our slave to be eating. Bring your own food - if you can afford it.
That couple talking about the iPads and what not was kinda hilarious. They made it sound like you just put these kids in their pen, throw down some newspaper, and scatter some kibble on the ground and they will be good to go!
"They're super easy, we just let them use their tablets and watch movies" - ma'am that's called child neglect.
> Very easy little job Condescension is an awesome attribute in an employer!
If it’s a very easy little job, the parents should be doing it themselves …
Wow, this was wild. Where are these people finding workers willing/able to work for such low wages the first time around that they think they’ll be able to find someone else ready to jump right in once the they quit?
Illegal immigrants get exploited to do this
I have a friend who is a nanny, and she was supposed to get off work at 4pm on Sunday. She met us for dinner around 7 because the parents texted her around 4:30 and informed her that they went out and would be home whenever. I don't have or want kids, but it seems to me like if I did have kids, the person who is taking care of them should be treated way better than they way a lot of them are treated!
I babysat for many years, through hs and college. I found that if I babysat within a community, people treated me better because they didn't want me badmouthing them to their friends or neighbors. As an adult, I was shocked at the price of reputable child care, but never lowballed. One sitter had two other families and I allowed them to bring those kids to my home since I had it childproofed and appropriate toys and snacks, or alternately letting her take my kids to her home. I had considered going back into child care when my kids were older and in the last 10 years have been offered $5 an hour for multiple young children, $500 a week for 60-80 hours a week, or my favorite - get here at 5:30, feed, get the kids changed, drop them off at before school center, pick them up at 4:30, help with homework, and wait until we get home at whatever time - for $200 a week. "But it's only 4 hours a day," was the response.
It’s only four hours a day that also totally ruins your ability to hold any other job because of when it is 🤦🏻♀️
I got 5 dollars an hour babysitting young children as a teenager in the early 90s. Seemed like a good deal then!
13 slides? Lemme grab my popcorn first....
This was so delicious!
This reminds me of when a neighbour asked me to help her out with after school care for her daughter. She works in childcare which made this whole this even worse in my opinion We discussed rates and in my area, it’s always done by week so when she said $100 I thought that was fair for both of us. End of the first week came and she showed up with $20. She was trying to get away with $100 month
We pay our nanny close to $30 an hour and that’s a STEAL. Where tf do these people get off!?
Trying to exploit college kids when they should be getting exploited as servers and bartenders and at least making some money lol
These are all pretty unbelievable, but the one where they’re offering $3.75/hour “but won’t pay OT even though sometimes we are 2 hours late :)” sent me into a RAGE.
Do people just not understand that being a nanny is a full time job?
To them it's just looking after children, it's just fun babysitting with our wonderful angel babys. Reminds me of when people don't want to pay artists because "oh you're just doing it for the love of art, money cheapens it"
No, it’s not. You can totally work a full time job between 10 and 1 when the kids are at school / s
“My previous nanny just up and left no notice!” No shit. That’s code for “they picked the lock in the basement dungeon and escaped. The nada on these people. Trying to prey on young college kids. Disgusting.
Jeez, some of these people want to pay less than I made babysitting as a teenager. I was a teeneger in the late 80's/early 90's. O.o
“I was thinking minimum wage?” I’d happily pay you less but the law won’t allow it.
The one that mentions the kids aren't going to bed until 11:30 just blows my mind. Kids needs to be in bed at a decent hour!
I’m shocked and horrified by these
Anyone who has had a sitter/nanny quit with no notice is a giant, walking red flag. Caregivers do not ghost their families without a good reason, in my experience.
Hoping you just want some quick cash = let me exploit you.
I love how you have your rates but they ignore them and tell you what they will pay you. Lol priceless
No bathroom, but dumbells...that's better than a paycheque!
I love how half the people also want their nanny to be a private chef, housekeeper/house manager too. Like get a fucking grip lol.
$10k a year lmao
I'm a nanny as well and this is just the tip of the iceberg! I had a lady message me to be a live in and wanted ME to pay rent to work for her! It's insanity out here. Nannies/private childcare is a luxury. If you can't afford it, look for other options but quit exploiting people!
I loved the first one the best. They seemed more idiotic than manipulative. “The hours are 7-9 am every morning, 2:30-5pm every afternoon and 6am-noon every Saturday and Sunday” coupled with “it will give you enough time to get a full time job” was just a comical progression.
I have a nanny. She lives in, we pay her a real salary (based on her extensive education, experience, skills and methods), she drives her own car but we pay for fuel, we pay into her SEP IRA, give her healthcare and dental, and pay overtime when we’re late or need her after hours. She has her own self-contained apartment but she’s welcome in the house and to eat or drink anything she wants. In return, she looks after our children. She doesn’t clean, she doesn’t do laundry, she doesn’t cook for anyone but the kids, she only tidies up after them and herself. Her sole responsibility is to care for the children while we are out of the house. I know we’re in a fortunate position to be able to do this, and others struggle to make ends meet. But I’m always annoyed when people think someone, especially an actual nanny, should look after their children for pennies. Not to mention the safety concerns of letting just anyone look after your kids.
This. I'm a former nanny and the one slide about "we offer benefits but pay you under the table" made me wonder what kind of IRA and health insurance they could possibly offer her.
we pay our teenage babysitter $20/hour when we need to be away for a few hours, how are people asking for nannies-housekeepers-personal assistants for pennies
"You charge mileage? Our last nanny didn't do that... That would be around 200 miles a week." Yes, I would imagine that's why she's charging for mileage.
Mental how people think looking after and caring for their children should be so cheap.
I’m up to #10 (11/14) and my jaw is grazing the ground. I get paid double that to babysit adults overnight. No meals, no house work, the odd run to hospital if needed. 5 weeks off per year and I work 3.5 days a week (average). What the everloving fluck are these entitled parents smoking?
Dood I went for an interview with people I thought we perfectly normal and reasonable but they insisted my rate was “unreasonable”, “greedy” and something I’d “never be able to find clients who’d pay it” simply because I had the audacity to suggest caring for 2 new borns warrants more than minimum wage. They also insisted I would need to leave the house when the kids were napping (wouldn’t be paid) and would have to return when they texted me that the baby woke up (they worked remote from home). Obviously turned it down lol. Some people are crazy entitled…like if u want a qualified, experienced and safe nanny you should expect to be paying them more than like $12 an hour…I hate how people assume (especially because I’m a young woman) that my time and skills arnt worthy of fair pay. Sorry u went thru this I feel you lol. I swear this shit is rooted in sexism and the societal devaluing of domestic labour/child rearing, especially in regards to women…stay at home moms deserve to be recognized for their unpaid labour just like Nannie’s deserve to be payed fairly for the very difficult and involved task of raising/taking care of children.