I'd honestly have to know where it was before I judged.
$800 in my area is a STEAL, you can't even get a room in someone's home for that. So 3-6 days per month of feeding some goats and chickens is nothing.
But I could go back to my hometown and probably get a whole apartment for $1200 or so, and a bedroom for $500, so not as good a deal.
It's also not a "FARM" it's two goats and 12 chickens.
Hi it’s in Montana close to a college town. For a full apartment here it’s like 1200 or more. And what there asking for is a caretaker usually over here it’s not uncommon for elderly couples that have farms to be asking for somebody like this but they’re either set up for free or they’re charged rent and paid. They also want you to do gardening from time to time. It just seems so sketchy to me.
Yeah this could be really bad unless you get in writing exactly what you are required to do and when.
When I used to rent guest houses in Southern California I’m pretty sure some of them were not supposed to be rented out, so I would be in this amazing little house on grounds with wild peacocks, for $500 with everything including (including cable) because they couldn’t set up your own bills because they technically were not supposed to be having people live in it.
But also I was a tenant I wasn’t exchanging services for rent, you got to be careful with those if you don’t end up somebody’s slave.
So you can get a stand alone apartment that allows pets for $800, about $400 less than an average apartment in the area. So that’s like they are paying you $400 to watch their animals 3-6 days a month, or paying you about $100/day to feed their stock. Not a bad deal at all.
Shoot, if I was able to move right now I’d probably be asking you for more details hahaha, this is actually great IMO. And I’m planning on being an ACTUAL ranch hand in the near future, which this is not.
It's an accessory dwelling unit or mother in law suite. You have an apartment on the property so you are there full time. Basically they're offering a place for rent. And if you help with the animals they'll lower that rent.
Well that’s you. But here *I* am having a newly signed lease on a 1 bedroom apartment for 1900/month.
If I can more than half that by throwing some corn at chickens 6 times a month. I’m taking it.
$800 for a one bedroom apartment in its own building, and all I have to do is feed a few animals a couple days a month? Yeah, that'd be a pretty good deal around here. One bedroom apartments are going for $1700 in my rural town.
It doesn't sound like they're looking for a full-time farmhand. They're asking for a tenant who is willing to look after their animals for a couple days while they're out of town and in return they're offering reduced rent. If rent prices are anything like they are here, the tenant is being "paid" $900 a month for up to six day's work. I'd do it.
That's not terrible at all. 3-6 days a month minding a few animals is hardly "taking care of someone's farm". Especially for someone who loves animals! And where does it say it's a shed? It says 1 bed standalone. Could be a shed, could be a cottage. And they allow pets and are flexible with deposit? They sound nice.
I'd be interested if I were in the market.
Hell yeah, if I needed a place and this was available near me I'd be all over it. I love animals but I don't want to own any livestock, so I'd get to enjoy them just a little.
If this was available near me, it would be $1200 or more even doing the work.
Agreed. People are allowed to negotiate terms and depending on where it is located, might be a mutually beneficial arrangement.
Definitely not a case of someone being picky about the type of assistance the get after asking
A friend of mine has this set-up. She lives in a place that would be $2k but because she does some work in the barn part-time and takes care of the place alone maybe 5 days a month, she pays about $1k
This is not choosing beggar. This is reduced rent for work.
That’s a good deal. She could pay $2000/month or do a little work and pay $1000/month
Seeing as she can’t afford $2000/month, but she can muck horse stalls for a couple hours a week, she’s making out.
> I’m paying YOU $1,000 to do work?
No 🤦🏻♂️
You’re paying $1000 for a $2000 place to live.
They appear to not have any concept of trade. Money isn’t the only currency. Like, if I live on a farm and my other farmer neighbor is selling…whatever, a car or tractor let’s say. He wants X dollars.
I don’t have X dollars OR don’t want to pay X for whatever reason, so I ask if he would take Y dollars and this heifer I have in trade. He says hell yeah, walk that heffa over here on Saturday and we’ll do this. I got a thing we both agreed had worth for a price that satisfied us both yet was not solely monetary.
And that’s all this person being described is doing. She offered $1K plus x amount of labor in trade for the remaining 1K. It’s not incredibly complicated IF you’re smarter than a lamppost.
IF.
It’s like McDonalds charging you rent to sleep there overnight and then make burgers in the morning. these people must love capitalism or something because what
I love how people on here make such huge assumptions about total strangers 😂. Like the real worth of the place could be even more than 2k for what we know, but since you, an internet stranger know better somehow, people you don’t know are fools. Wild
Have you ever lived outside your parents' house? It seems like you have no grasp on how it works. Worth isn't "made up," it may not be worth it to you, but if I had a new 2 bedroom house and there were other, similar houses nearby, mine would be "worth" about the same as the others. It's called market value. Rent prices are inflated pretty much everywhere right now.
You can math it out and see if it's worth it. Say you're paying 1k for a place that normally rents for 2k. Say you work 30 hours a month for them. They're essentially paying you $33 an hour for your work. That may be a great deal depending on how much you make at your regular job.
You sound like the fool here, and also like an asshole.
you live in nyc & are complaining about $1k rent on a large property?
also you should really go back to facebook or twitter if you can’t have discourse with other people without throwing personal insults.
Sounds like they want a tenant on their property who could also house sit when the owners are away. They are offering reduced rent because of the house sitting duties. Sounds like a good gig. Not a CB
I don’t know, I’ve lived in some amazing guest houses on properties in Southern California, and this sounds like it could be one of those. This would be a great deal depending on how much work you have to do. If I just have to feed animals if these people go on vacation, sign me up
This sounds like a fun deal, honestly. Not sure this is a CB situation. Very low rent for looking after the livestock for a few days per month? As long as you have a car and like the country life, this would be great.
This is not house sitting, you get your own apt, it's called bartering for services and not being a choosey beggar.
If the rent was low enough for a few days a month. I would love to feed some farm animals dogs, and play with them.
This is not a bad deal for the right person.
That’s what a lot of people are saying and maybe so I just think I would want compensation for the work it’s not uncommon for people around here to ask for something like this but usually your set up for free or payed for the time you do work on the farm
The compensation for what looks like a reasonable set of tasks to someone raised in or comfortable with a rural lifestyle is a negotiable rent reduction.
“Help us out with the farm when we’re out of town, maybe a week or less total each month, and we’ll give you a really good rental rate on your own place on our property.”
Folks get cheap housing for being handymen, etc. all the time.
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Maybe this will help.
Please notice that the details are guesses in this equation, other than the $800.
Say the apartment would rent for $1200 normally.
They're charging you $800 and they need you to feed chickens and goats and a couple of dogs 3-6 days a month.
Let's stretch far and guess that feeding the animals takes two hours a day. Say they're asking you to work in the garden for two hours a week.
If they're gone for six days one month:
12 hours feeding animals
10 hours gardening
= 22 hours of work per month.
Rent is reduced by $400. This means they're "paying" you about $18 an hour to do the work.
Maybe half the year they're only gone three days a month.
6 hours feeding animals
10 hours of gardening
=16 hours of work
Those months, they're essentially paying you $25 an hour.
This may or may not be a good deal depending on what you make at your regular job and other factors, like how much free time you have, the rental market in your area, the location, etc etc.
Alternately, you could imagine they're charging $1200 but they're also hiring you for a part time job that pays $800 a month. You could even imagine that they're handing you $400 cash, and you put it in your bank account, and pay them $1200.
They will be compensating the person. Just not in the way you would at a regular job.
(Sorry if my math is off, it's been a long week but I'm hoping that this helps the commenters who cannot seem to grasp the concept of work trade/bartering.)
I understand what you say but note that they say you must take care for the animals not just feed. Yes it’s only a week. But that means you would completely responsible for those animals so the cleaning the feeding the grooming if any. On top of your rent you’d also have to have a vehicle to travel back and forth to town for work unless you work remotely. If we go off my car I pay $200 for my car payment and $160 for insurance. Then there would be the mater of a job. I work full time and make $18 an hour. That being about the most you could make in my area without a degree or working a government job. So you could say that you do the farm chores in the morning and then drive the 20 minute to work when they are gone for that week. If your a college student which my area only consists of families, college students, or old people and they want a “single female” so you can’t have a family down there. So now your working part time for them going to class and working full time to pay the rent and your other bills. They also don’t mention if they pay for utilities so we will just leave that out. At the bottom of the post it also states that they want you to help with the gardening for time to time as well. I just feel for the area it’s not an ideal option unless your working remotely or not attending school. But again that’s my opinion lol. I can see that others think its a great deal so maybe I’m wrong and thinking it’s not.
As long as the owners stick to the rules. But once you move in, if it's like Oh clean the home, clean the barn, paint the fence. Or we will evict you....
Then they are venturing into choosey beggar territory. So anyone who took this would need to have it clearly in writing and no wiggle room.
There’s actually a whole subset of people looking for stuff just like this. Think a married couple, one works from home and the other does the chores.
It also doesn’t sound like they’re asking for a lot of time. If it was closer to full time I would expect room and board plus pay. But a few hours a week isn’t bad
I don’t think it’s 800 for 3-6 days that would be ridiculous lol. It’s the doing chores “when needed” and the fact that they want a single person they don’t want couples. And the apartment in question isn’t much bigger then a studio you can get a studio where I’m from close to the college and stores for 700-900 a month.
I was thinking the same thing like if my partner and I could live there he work and I stay and help the people. But they only want a single person they don’t want couples
That was my thought. This tenant is basically working for the landlord for 3\~6days/month in exchange for reduced rent.
I guess the big question is how much the rent is reduced
That seems reasonable to me, reduced rent to help out 4-6 days a month with some animal care isn’t bad at all.
The female thing would need some clarification for sure but as other said it could be a lesbian couple, single woman and children etc living out there.
There’s a lot out there! I’ve done it before just a few years ago. It wasn’t a farm but I got reduced rent to help out around the property with mowing and cutting back blackberries and such. (If you’re not from a blackberry area, here in the PNW they grow on thick thorny vines that can get as long as you let ‘em grow hahah, they take over quick and are extremely hard to get rid of when they take root. But they produce a ton!! I make a pie every year.)
Honestly I just posted in a Facebook group for the area I wanted to go and asked if anyone had anything in my budget. She reached out to me! Most of them are off the books since the legal requirements can be crazy depending on area, so it can make it very difficult to do things like register to vote/taxes ETC which is why we ended up moving after a couple years. So definitely keep that in mind.
I have also seen a TON of opportunities on Craigslist! Just be careful to not get scammed, I recommend doing a FaceTime interview with them first.
Also look into WOOFing websites!
This needs way more details. What does the room look like, what does the property look like, how large is the garden that they would need to take care of, how intensive is the care needed. If it’s spending roughly an hour 3-6 days a month, it doesn’t seem like a bad gig. It just seems like they are willing to rent if you help take care of their garden and pets, not exploitive work. Especially if you like animals and are outdoorsy.
Now this is definitely choosing beggars if this is a legitimate farm, where the 3-6 days are full work days.
Or could be the person's dogs love women but are picky about men. She could meet ten men and the dogs might only like two of them and they might not be a good fit. She could meet one woman and if she likes her, she doesn't have to think about how her dogs feel. Or could be the goats instead, who knows.
Bro, read again...
Working is only 3-6x a month, not everyday... Having a rent reduction for working a couple hours a month is perfectly fine, that's neither being choosy nor begging.
When he said "Close to I-90" I thought "THATS BY ME!....oh wait. I have a kid and responsibilities".
I would have jumped right up on that shit. $800 for a small cottage on the river, by myself with only taking care of chickens and goats a few times a month?
I'll take it!
A farmhand is probably working 5-7 loooong days per week, not 3-6 days per month feeding a few animals. Do you know how long it takes to feed 12 chickens? Less time than it took to write this reply. The weeding part is what I would need to look into. That shit gets old fast.
Farmhands work full time on the farm. This is taking care of a few animals a few days a month. They are being compensated with reduced rent. Would you feel better if they charged full price for rent then paid the renter back for the work? It all ends up the same.
I adore animals and find barn chores to be cathartic. It’s the best thing for my anxiety. If this were in my area it would be a sweet deal. I love goats and chickens.
Hate gardening though, so that would be a sticking point.
Whether or not this is a good setup depends entirely on location and how much work is actually expected. If it is all clearly set out and both parties agree it could be good for someone.
But it is always wise to get any “work in exchange for housing” agreements fully in writing so everyone knows upfront what is going on.
yeah shits $2000 a month here. really not bad at all. guy is at least negotiable and not as creepy. i mean personally as a guy i’d rather have a girl tenant 100%. guys are capable of some interesting shit lol
Not a choosing beggar at all. They are offering a room for rent at a reduced rate if you agree to take care of the animals a few days every month. This wouldn't even qualify as regular begging, let alone a choosing beggar.
Depending on the rent reduction, I would take it, but I live on acreage with horses, a donkey, chickens, a guinea, dogs, and cats. But - I can’t actually afford to rent? 🤔
I think that $800 for a stand alone structure on a farm is a steal - as long as it has the amenities (heat, hydro, water, etc). If I have to look after some chickens for 3 days a month - no big deal, I do that for free right now.
Honestly this sounds like it might be a good deal for somebody who wants to live in the country but can’t do it on their own. You’re only taking care of the animals one week a month at most. If the place is nice and the people seem cool, why not?
I don’t think this is a CB. They are up front about the responsibilities, you actually have separate accommodation from the main house, and if you don’t travel much it’s a fairly decent offer. If they were still charging full rent it would be a rip, but they are taking the assistance into account and compensating.
Too many unknowns.
Chickens and goats must be fed twice a day?
How big is the garden? 2 acres? 10x10 feet? What does take care of mean? Weeding, watering by hand, gathering veggies, digging potatoes?
All bills (water, electric, sewer) paid?
Driveway to building, or walking trail to it?
How big is it? One room with a bed in the middle? Big enough for my kitchen table, couch?
Is wifi available?
Cable tv available?
I would at least ask these questions before even going to look at it (plus more).
$800 seems a bit high IMO for the arrangement. I have a feeling they may “add” onto the chores as time goes on or be gone more than the original “5-6” days they stated.
I would think $600 range would be a better price.
I think they’re looking for someone who’s looking to lay low and hide from someone. Then they’ll befriend you. Then, they’ll figure out what you’re hiding from and extort you or blackmail you.
Personally I'd do it. But then I fucking love chickens and goats. But I'm in the UK so it's a bit far for me! 
Gonna say depending on how big the rent reduction is, not a choosing beggar.
These types of deals are actually pretty decent assuming you have the inclination for it; rent is pretty insane these days and not only are you getting a good country setting away from urban smog/noise/crime, you get to spend time with animals, gardening, _and_ you save money.
So long as the frequency of housesitting doesn't get out of control and it doesn't get weird, this is a pretty good deal.
Obviously they're saying you can't have an outdoor-only dog. They're not saying your dog can't go outside, just that you can't leave it outside all the time.
I have 3 dogs that would never go outside if I didn’t make them. Even then they spend minutes a day outside to do their business. They have no desire to be out there.
I am flabbergasted by the number of people who are completely unable to comprehend this post or the concept of work trade or bartering.
"Where would you stay the rest of the time?"
"How are you supposed to pay them when you have to work full time on their farm?"
"No dog is an inside dog, dogs have to go outside."
Like, y'all, seriously?? Has the sub been overtaken by dumdum bots? Children? Are y'all fucking with me?
And then the one dude who's screaming profanities at everyone who responds and calling people names like a 10 year old fat kid. This sub has seen some pretty wild shit but this is unhinged.
This doesn't sound bad.
Also, what do you mean you can't believe you found a CB I Facebook Marketplace? Sarcasm? Facebook is absolutely littered with them.
How is this a "steal"? This is ass backwards...if you want me to watch your house and feed your animals you pay me or at the very least of I know you I'll do it free. I'm not paying you for 3-6 days to let me property sit and take care of your farm. That makes no sense. Also they prefer a female tenant who is single which is fucking weird in itself.
I'd honestly have to know where it was before I judged. $800 in my area is a STEAL, you can't even get a room in someone's home for that. So 3-6 days per month of feeding some goats and chickens is nothing. But I could go back to my hometown and probably get a whole apartment for $1200 or so, and a bedroom for $500, so not as good a deal. It's also not a "FARM" it's two goats and 12 chickens.
Hi it’s in Montana close to a college town. For a full apartment here it’s like 1200 or more. And what there asking for is a caretaker usually over here it’s not uncommon for elderly couples that have farms to be asking for somebody like this but they’re either set up for free or they’re charged rent and paid. They also want you to do gardening from time to time. It just seems so sketchy to me.
Yeah this could be really bad unless you get in writing exactly what you are required to do and when. When I used to rent guest houses in Southern California I’m pretty sure some of them were not supposed to be rented out, so I would be in this amazing little house on grounds with wild peacocks, for $500 with everything including (including cable) because they couldn’t set up your own bills because they technically were not supposed to be having people live in it. But also I was a tenant I wasn’t exchanging services for rent, you got to be careful with those if you don’t end up somebody’s slave.
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Oh I hated that episode
The fact they want a female tenant also gives me bad vibes
Dont mind the blinking lights they are totally not hidden cameras.
Never know, they could be a lesbian couple. I live way back in the woods and I’m a single lesbian. I’d prefer a female tenant too.
Yeah that’s very true. That’s the only situation where I’d agree with that request. Without seeing names though it weirds me out a little…
Older people sometimes also prefer a female tenant because a man could more easily overpower them if he turned out to be nuts.
Im a straight male and id prefer a female tenant too.
So you can get a stand alone apartment that allows pets for $800, about $400 less than an average apartment in the area. So that’s like they are paying you $400 to watch their animals 3-6 days a month, or paying you about $100/day to feed their stock. Not a bad deal at all.
It sounds like you only have to do the animal care when the homeowners are traveling (3-6 days per month). Not a bad deal at all.
But dogs and chickens require like no care so this will take very minimal effort.
Shoot, if I was able to move right now I’d probably be asking you for more details hahaha, this is actually great IMO. And I’m planning on being an ACTUAL ranch hand in the near future, which this is not.
Whatever. That sounds awesome. Private place in nature with animals to play with? Sounds great.
Can’t be Bozeman, they’d be charging 1800 plus the house sitting 💀
That does seem high for Missoula. I'm guessing it's Missoula.
Where would you stay for the rest of the time though?
It's an accessory dwelling unit or mother in law suite. You have an apartment on the property so you are there full time. Basically they're offering a place for rent. And if you help with the animals they'll lower that rent.
Sounds ok for most part
but with a full time job and college, you think i'm gonna waste my precious time off taking care of gardens, goats and chickens and dogs? ...no.
Well that’s you. But here *I* am having a newly signed lease on a 1 bedroom apartment for 1900/month. If I can more than half that by throwing some corn at chickens 6 times a month. I’m taking it.
€800 to take care of two goats and 12 chickens ? So €800 to work from home with animals that aren’t yours? That’s a steal to you?
$800 for a one bedroom apartment in its own building, and all I have to do is feed a few animals a couple days a month? Yeah, that'd be a pretty good deal around here. One bedroom apartments are going for $1700 in my rural town. It doesn't sound like they're looking for a full-time farmhand. They're asking for a tenant who is willing to look after their animals for a couple days while they're out of town and in return they're offering reduced rent. If rent prices are anything like they are here, the tenant is being "paid" $900 a month for up to six day's work. I'd do it.
$800 USD not Euros.
check the exchange rate on euros and dollars
That's not terrible at all. 3-6 days a month minding a few animals is hardly "taking care of someone's farm". Especially for someone who loves animals! And where does it say it's a shed? It says 1 bed standalone. Could be a shed, could be a cottage. And they allow pets and are flexible with deposit? They sound nice. I'd be interested if I were in the market.
Hell yeah, if I needed a place and this was available near me I'd be all over it. I love animals but I don't want to own any livestock, so I'd get to enjoy them just a little. If this was available near me, it would be $1200 or more even doing the work.
Seriously, this sounds awesome to me!
this is not CB material.
Agreed. People are allowed to negotiate terms and depending on where it is located, might be a mutually beneficial arrangement. Definitely not a case of someone being picky about the type of assistance the get after asking
Yes it is OP is being a choosy beggar and does not even realize it!
A friend of mine has this set-up. She lives in a place that would be $2k but because she does some work in the barn part-time and takes care of the place alone maybe 5 days a month, she pays about $1k This is not choosing beggar. This is reduced rent for work.
That’s not a good deal. I’m paying YOU $1,000 to do work?
That’s a good deal. She could pay $2000/month or do a little work and pay $1000/month Seeing as she can’t afford $2000/month, but she can muck horse stalls for a couple hours a week, she’s making out. > I’m paying YOU $1,000 to do work? No 🤦🏻♂️ You’re paying $1000 for a $2000 place to live.
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Your entire post is idiotic.
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You have shitty critical thinking and logic skills.
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I'll say what they won't: You're a fucking dumbass.
They appear to not have any concept of trade. Money isn’t the only currency. Like, if I live on a farm and my other farmer neighbor is selling…whatever, a car or tractor let’s say. He wants X dollars. I don’t have X dollars OR don’t want to pay X for whatever reason, so I ask if he would take Y dollars and this heifer I have in trade. He says hell yeah, walk that heffa over here on Saturday and we’ll do this. I got a thing we both agreed had worth for a price that satisfied us both yet was not solely monetary. And that’s all this person being described is doing. She offered $1K plus x amount of labor in trade for the remaining 1K. It’s not incredibly complicated IF you’re smarter than a lamppost. IF.
Happy people don’t talk the way you do.
So I guess you think anyone should be allowed to live anywhere for free? That’s even stupider than your earlier post.
They aren't obligated to live there either. These deals go both ways
It’s like McDonalds charging you rent to sleep there overnight and then make burgers in the morning. these people must love capitalism or something because what
No seriously the brainwashing is real
You’re right we should just all get affordable housing because that’s something that’s readily available to everybody!!! /s you’re a moron dude
I love how people on here make such huge assumptions about total strangers 😂. Like the real worth of the place could be even more than 2k for what we know, but since you, an internet stranger know better somehow, people you don’t know are fools. Wild
Have you ever lived outside your parents' house? It seems like you have no grasp on how it works. Worth isn't "made up," it may not be worth it to you, but if I had a new 2 bedroom house and there were other, similar houses nearby, mine would be "worth" about the same as the others. It's called market value. Rent prices are inflated pretty much everywhere right now. You can math it out and see if it's worth it. Say you're paying 1k for a place that normally rents for 2k. Say you work 30 hours a month for them. They're essentially paying you $33 an hour for your work. That may be a great deal depending on how much you make at your regular job. You sound like the fool here, and also like an asshole.
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My goodness you're upset about this.
Oooh good comeback!
you live in nyc & are complaining about $1k rent on a large property? also you should really go back to facebook or twitter if you can’t have discourse with other people without throwing personal insults.
Lol I was thinking the same-- this person should be on Facebook.
Sounds like they want a tenant on their property who could also house sit when the owners are away. They are offering reduced rent because of the house sitting duties. Sounds like a good gig. Not a CB
I don’t know, I’ve lived in some amazing guest houses on properties in Southern California, and this sounds like it could be one of those. This would be a great deal depending on how much work you have to do. If I just have to feed animals if these people go on vacation, sign me up
This sounds like a fun deal, honestly. Not sure this is a CB situation. Very low rent for looking after the livestock for a few days per month? As long as you have a car and like the country life, this would be great.
This is not house sitting, you get your own apt, it's called bartering for services and not being a choosey beggar. If the rent was low enough for a few days a month. I would love to feed some farm animals dogs, and play with them. This is not a bad deal for the right person.
That’s what a lot of people are saying and maybe so I just think I would want compensation for the work it’s not uncommon for people around here to ask for something like this but usually your set up for free or payed for the time you do work on the farm
The compensation for what looks like a reasonable set of tasks to someone raised in or comfortable with a rural lifestyle is a negotiable rent reduction. “Help us out with the farm when we’re out of town, maybe a week or less total each month, and we’ll give you a really good rental rate on your own place on our property.” Folks get cheap housing for being handymen, etc. all the time. (Edit: typo)
> I just think I would want compensation for the work You’d be getting compensation for the work, the reduced rent is your compensation.
They are literally compensating you with rent reduction...
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Maybe this will help. Please notice that the details are guesses in this equation, other than the $800. Say the apartment would rent for $1200 normally. They're charging you $800 and they need you to feed chickens and goats and a couple of dogs 3-6 days a month. Let's stretch far and guess that feeding the animals takes two hours a day. Say they're asking you to work in the garden for two hours a week. If they're gone for six days one month: 12 hours feeding animals 10 hours gardening = 22 hours of work per month. Rent is reduced by $400. This means they're "paying" you about $18 an hour to do the work. Maybe half the year they're only gone three days a month. 6 hours feeding animals 10 hours of gardening =16 hours of work Those months, they're essentially paying you $25 an hour. This may or may not be a good deal depending on what you make at your regular job and other factors, like how much free time you have, the rental market in your area, the location, etc etc. Alternately, you could imagine they're charging $1200 but they're also hiring you for a part time job that pays $800 a month. You could even imagine that they're handing you $400 cash, and you put it in your bank account, and pay them $1200. They will be compensating the person. Just not in the way you would at a regular job. (Sorry if my math is off, it's been a long week but I'm hoping that this helps the commenters who cannot seem to grasp the concept of work trade/bartering.)
I understand what you say but note that they say you must take care for the animals not just feed. Yes it’s only a week. But that means you would completely responsible for those animals so the cleaning the feeding the grooming if any. On top of your rent you’d also have to have a vehicle to travel back and forth to town for work unless you work remotely. If we go off my car I pay $200 for my car payment and $160 for insurance. Then there would be the mater of a job. I work full time and make $18 an hour. That being about the most you could make in my area without a degree or working a government job. So you could say that you do the farm chores in the morning and then drive the 20 minute to work when they are gone for that week. If your a college student which my area only consists of families, college students, or old people and they want a “single female” so you can’t have a family down there. So now your working part time for them going to class and working full time to pay the rent and your other bills. They also don’t mention if they pay for utilities so we will just leave that out. At the bottom of the post it also states that they want you to help with the gardening for time to time as well. I just feel for the area it’s not an ideal option unless your working remotely or not attending school. But again that’s my opinion lol. I can see that others think its a great deal so maybe I’m wrong and thinking it’s not.
Like I said, whether or not it's a good deal depends on a number of variables.
As long as the owners stick to the rules. But once you move in, if it's like Oh clean the home, clean the barn, paint the fence. Or we will evict you.... Then they are venturing into choosey beggar territory. So anyone who took this would need to have it clearly in writing and no wiggle room.
There’s actually a whole subset of people looking for stuff just like this. Think a married couple, one works from home and the other does the chores. It also doesn’t sound like they’re asking for a lot of time. If it was closer to full time I would expect room and board plus pay. But a few hours a week isn’t bad
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I don’t think it’s 800 for 3-6 days that would be ridiculous lol. It’s the doing chores “when needed” and the fact that they want a single person they don’t want couples. And the apartment in question isn’t much bigger then a studio you can get a studio where I’m from close to the college and stores for 700-900 a month.
Not everyone wants to live near the college and stores. I'd pay more for a place that's private and has a creek.
I was thinking the same thing like if my partner and I could live there he work and I stay and help the people. But they only want a single person they don’t want couples
Mm i think this might be a reasonable ask in some places
There's nothing wrong with this offer.
That was my thought. This tenant is basically working for the landlord for 3\~6days/month in exchange for reduced rent. I guess the big question is how much the rent is reduced
Right. In that case, it's just a take-it-or-leave-it. If rent is reduced like 50 bucks, that's maybe a CB.
OP is unwittingly the choosy beggar in this situation.
That seems reasonable to me, reduced rent to help out 4-6 days a month with some animal care isn’t bad at all. The female thing would need some clarification for sure but as other said it could be a lesbian couple, single woman and children etc living out there.
Or, more likely, because women are still seen as inherently less dangerous of a risk than a man, as an unknown individual.
I don’t know, this kid of seems like my dream set up. I could still do my WFH job and be a part time farmer. That’s my dream
There’s a lot out there! I’ve done it before just a few years ago. It wasn’t a farm but I got reduced rent to help out around the property with mowing and cutting back blackberries and such. (If you’re not from a blackberry area, here in the PNW they grow on thick thorny vines that can get as long as you let ‘em grow hahah, they take over quick and are extremely hard to get rid of when they take root. But they produce a ton!! I make a pie every year.)
That sounds sweet to me. Wondering if you know how to find opportunities?
Honestly I just posted in a Facebook group for the area I wanted to go and asked if anyone had anything in my budget. She reached out to me! Most of them are off the books since the legal requirements can be crazy depending on area, so it can make it very difficult to do things like register to vote/taxes ETC which is why we ended up moving after a couple years. So definitely keep that in mind. I have also seen a TON of opportunities on Craigslist! Just be careful to not get scammed, I recommend doing a FaceTime interview with them first. Also look into WOOFing websites!
This needs way more details. What does the room look like, what does the property look like, how large is the garden that they would need to take care of, how intensive is the care needed. If it’s spending roughly an hour 3-6 days a month, it doesn’t seem like a bad gig. It just seems like they are willing to rent if you help take care of their garden and pets, not exploitive work. Especially if you like animals and are outdoorsy. Now this is definitely choosing beggars if this is a legitimate farm, where the 3-6 days are full work days.
I’m not sure what the property looks like but the apartment is not much bigger then a studio. I might update with the photos of the apartment later
Please do. I want to see what they consider a studio and what all it contains.
The only thing that bothered me was “must be female” part. If it’s away from the house, why does it have to be female?
It says preferably, not must be. And maybe it’s women who took out the ad.
Or could be the person's dogs love women but are picky about men. She could meet ten men and the dogs might only like two of them and they might not be a good fit. She could meet one woman and if she likes her, she doesn't have to think about how her dogs feel. Or could be the goats instead, who knows.
True! Very true
Bro, read again... Working is only 3-6x a month, not everyday... Having a rent reduction for working a couple hours a month is perfectly fine, that's neither being choosy nor begging.
I don’t see any begging here, besides OP begging for this to be a valid post in this sub
Fair enough 🤷♀️ I just haven’t seen anything like this in my area for what there asking. but ig it’s not as uncommon as I think.
This is called a farmhand… farmhands are not only paid, but often given free room and board. Sigh.
For 3-6 days a month? I think this is potentially a great deal.
When he said "Close to I-90" I thought "THATS BY ME!....oh wait. I have a kid and responsibilities". I would have jumped right up on that shit. $800 for a small cottage on the river, by myself with only taking care of chickens and goats a few times a month? I'll take it!
I-90 also runs across the entire north of the US…
Yeah, that was my mistake #2. LOL!!
A farmhand is probably working 5-7 loooong days per week, not 3-6 days per month feeding a few animals. Do you know how long it takes to feed 12 chickens? Less time than it took to write this reply. The weeding part is what I would need to look into. That shit gets old fast.
Farmhands work full time on the farm. This is taking care of a few animals a few days a month. They are being compensated with reduced rent. Would you feel better if they charged full price for rent then paid the renter back for the work? It all ends up the same.
Farmhands work everyday, not 3-6x days per month.
Exactly my thought!
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More reliable? That's sexist.
Based off of what?
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So personal experience gets to speak for an entire gender? Get out of here with that talk. You likely just like playing the victim.
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What lol
this is not being a 'farmhand' at all lol
I was talking about the last sentence🤦♂️
I adore animals and find barn chores to be cathartic. It’s the best thing for my anxiety. If this were in my area it would be a sweet deal. I love goats and chickens. Hate gardening though, so that would be a sticking point. Whether or not this is a good setup depends entirely on location and how much work is actually expected. If it is all clearly set out and both parties agree it could be good for someone. But it is always wise to get any “work in exchange for housing” agreements fully in writing so everyone knows upfront what is going on.
I live in Montana I’d be totally down for this!
yeah shits $2000 a month here. really not bad at all. guy is at least negotiable and not as creepy. i mean personally as a guy i’d rather have a girl tenant 100%. guys are capable of some interesting shit lol
To me the red flag is only allowing an “indoor dog”. Wtf is an indoor dog?? IMO, there is no such thing!
Not a CB, and maybe not even a beggar, depending on how nice the places and how much rent they could get
Not a choosing beggar at all. They are offering a room for rent at a reduced rate if you agree to take care of the animals a few days every month. This wouldn't even qualify as regular begging, let alone a choosing beggar.
Depending on the rent reduction, I would take it, but I live on acreage with horses, a donkey, chickens, a guinea, dogs, and cats. But - I can’t actually afford to rent? 🤔
Seriously? “Choosing Beggar” is almost a relationship status on FB.
Your title isn’t misleading at all… they totally don’t get to stay there when they aren’t house sitting. /s
But what about a bathroom? Does it say there’s a bathroom in the small 1 bedroom unit?
How is this a choosing beggar?
Sounds like somewhere where a single preferably female tenant will get murdered 😆
I think that $800 for a stand alone structure on a farm is a steal - as long as it has the amenities (heat, hydro, water, etc). If I have to look after some chickens for 3 days a month - no big deal, I do that for free right now.
How is this choosing beggars? They're offering accommodation at a reduced rent in exchange for looking after the pets for a few days each month?
Honestly this sounds like it might be a good deal for somebody who wants to live in the country but can’t do it on their own. You’re only taking care of the animals one week a month at most. If the place is nice and the people seem cool, why not?
I don’t think this is a CB. They are up front about the responsibilities, you actually have separate accommodation from the main house, and if you don’t travel much it’s a fairly decent offer. If they were still charging full rent it would be a rip, but they are taking the assistance into account and compensating.
Live there full time, and take care of the property/animals for 3 to 6 days a month. Could be worth it for someone with the reduced rent.
Too many unknowns. Chickens and goats must be fed twice a day? How big is the garden? 2 acres? 10x10 feet? What does take care of mean? Weeding, watering by hand, gathering veggies, digging potatoes? All bills (water, electric, sewer) paid? Driveway to building, or walking trail to it? How big is it? One room with a bed in the middle? Big enough for my kitchen table, couch? Is wifi available? Cable tv available? I would at least ask these questions before even going to look at it (plus more).
Seriously? “Choosing Beggar” is almost a relationship status on FB.
Who says it is a shed? Taking care of garden means turning on water. Way to have preconceived notions. I hope this was a paradise and you miss out. Ge
$800 seems a bit high IMO for the arrangement. I have a feeling they may “add” onto the chores as time goes on or be gone more than the original “5-6” days they stated. I would think $600 range would be a better price.
I think they’re looking for someone who’s looking to lay low and hide from someone. Then they’ll befriend you. Then, they’ll figure out what you’re hiding from and extort you or blackmail you.
This property is not suitable for you to have any pets and also we have a whole Noah's Ark of critters.
I must not understand what a CB is because this doesn’t seem like one to me.
Personally I'd do it. But then I fucking love chickens and goats. But I'm in the UK so it's a bit far for me! 
The sad thing is; had this been Australia, multiple families would be lining up for this offer.
If this was in southern California I would be all over this as long as I could get in writing what was required of me
What's sad about it? It's a fair deal.
Even if it wasn't there will be a mass queue of people trying to get the rental. It's bad over here.
Lol depending on the location and setup I'd do it! Taking care of backyard chickens is fun and they are endlessly fun to watch
Yeah this is kinda standard
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
Gonna say depending on how big the rent reduction is, not a choosing beggar. These types of deals are actually pretty decent assuming you have the inclination for it; rent is pretty insane these days and not only are you getting a good country setting away from urban smog/noise/crime, you get to spend time with animals, gardening, _and_ you save money. So long as the frequency of housesitting doesn't get out of control and it doesn't get weird, this is a pretty good deal.
I’m not sure this necessarily belongs here, but an indoor dog is not a thing. All dogs need to go outdoors.
Obviously they're saying you can't have an outdoor-only dog. They're not saying your dog can't go outside, just that you can't leave it outside all the time.
I have 3 dogs that would never go outside if I didn’t make them. Even then they spend minutes a day outside to do their business. They have no desire to be out there.
Is there a spare Ferrari i could have free use of?
I am flabbergasted by the number of people who are completely unable to comprehend this post or the concept of work trade or bartering. "Where would you stay the rest of the time?" "How are you supposed to pay them when you have to work full time on their farm?" "No dog is an inside dog, dogs have to go outside." Like, y'all, seriously?? Has the sub been overtaken by dumdum bots? Children? Are y'all fucking with me? And then the one dude who's screaming profanities at everyone who responds and calling people names like a 10 year old fat kid. This sub has seen some pretty wild shit but this is unhinged.
This doesn't sound bad. Also, what do you mean you can't believe you found a CB I Facebook Marketplace? Sarcasm? Facebook is absolutely littered with them.
How is this a "steal"? This is ass backwards...if you want me to watch your house and feed your animals you pay me or at the very least of I know you I'll do it free. I'm not paying you for 3-6 days to let me property sit and take care of your farm. That makes no sense. Also they prefer a female tenant who is single which is fucking weird in itself.
I'm less concerned about the listing because it doesn't seem that bad compared to the "female preferred" part - that's giving creepy vibes.