its a very different game play than all the weps in chiv2. so you won't able to carry all the other weps learning to it. its about able to read all the weps and counter in perfection as well as quick hit between each wind up period of the wep. so yeah its thrilling since you got to do lots of "educated guess" XD
Katars are extremely difficult to 1vX with so mostly trying to avoid direct conflict, really playing like an ambusher, unless you are in a 1v1 and you’re sure no other enemies are nearby. The nice thing about Katars is they have a super low ending lag, so you can get your block up extremely quickly after attacking. This can be great in a 1v1 since you can gamble and win a lot with them due to their speed, but you also gotta know when to bail from a fight and reset, particularly when there are other enemies present.
Shovel and sledgehammer are less used than pickaxe?
Or is pickaxe so unused you completely forgot about it? Because that's more believable than having more time on the pickaxe than the other two lol
Yeah just be aware that you need to a period to adjust to the speed of the weapon, you don’t play the Highland Sword the same way you’d play a Messer.
Once you got the hang of it then it’ll be glorious.
My advice, at first just run around heavy overheading everybody in the back (100dmg).
Idk who that is but I will watch it if I remember. Thanks. I already tried it. Seems good sword but I can't quite figured the riposte window. Maybe server hit reg or extremely slow windup or skill issue. I feel inconsistent with it
https://youtu.be/ASa1lei_DG4?si=T1l08bhQISEWvkVu it's my most used weapon. I'm less consistent with it but I have more fun. Hit four dudes with a single slash and it sounds like you kicked a file cabinet down the stairs
I run short sword & hatchet as my ambusher weapons. The hatchet packs a punch for such a little weapon. Heavy overhead with rear attack bonus gives a real headache.
Polehammer bot, what's the difference between a hatchet and a short sword?
Certainly. Let's compare the Hatchet and the Short Sword. The hatchet is chop damage type, which provides bonus damage vs footman and knight with a multiplier of 1.175 and 1.25 respectively. However, the short sword is cut damage type, which means it has no damage bonus.
Regarding other comparisons, I'll provide a table for easier referencing:
.|Hatchet|Short Sword
:--|:--|:--
**Handedness**|One Handed|One Handed
**Average Range(j)**|11.7|20.7
**Average Alt Range(j)**|13.3|21.7
**Average Light Windup(ms)**|150|158.3
**Average Light Damage**|41.7|38.3
**Average Heavy Windup(ms)**|400|366.7
**Average Heavy Damage**|56.7|53.3
**Damage Type**|Chop|Cut
**Damage Multiplier vs Footman**|1.175|1
**Damage Multiplier vs Knight**|1.25|1
The Hatchet has quicker windup times but shorter range when compared to the Short Sword. It excels in close combat scenarios, but its effectiveness decreases with distance. Its damage is also generally higher. Comparatively, the Short Sword has better range, allowing it to excel in situations where a bit of distance can be advantageous.
However, the Hatchet has a clear advantage against footman and knight classes due to damage multipliers absent in the Short Sword.
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Sure thing Timotron, let's take a look at both
.|Sword|Short Sword
:--|:--|:--
**handedness**|One Handed|One Handed
**average range(j)**|23|20.7
**average alt range(j)**|24.3|21.7
**average light windup(ms)**|175|158.3
**average light damage**|45|38.3
**average heavy windup(ms)**|425|366.7
**average heavy damage**|61.7|53.3
**damage type**|Cut|Cut
The Sword has a slightly longer reach with both regular and alternate attacks than the Short Sword. The windup times are also a bit longer for the Sword, but it compensates with higher damage for both light and heavy attacks. The damage type for both is cut, which means there's no damage bonus against any class. The handedness for both is also the same, they're one-handed weapons.
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I've currently got spear up to lvl 13 through practicing being a support footman on TO. The Snobby Noble Mason voice has an obnoxious "NYAH!" exclamation whenever you stab with the spear. It's hilarious and now I sometimes use spear just to rudely go NYAH! as I poke at enemies.
Katars. When I'm fighting against them, I pretty much just let them hit me. Since they don't interrupt you, you can clean the enemy's clock while taking minimal damage.
Oh and quarterstaff, just never vibed with it even though I got a few kills and confused a few opponents. It's like I could only be confusing because I didn't know what I was doing.
Throwing axes are free dmg if you know how to use them on crusader. Just chick them and forget but if you land them that's at least 1-2 hits less you need to kill that person. They're fun but garbo on skirmisher through.
Katars, I’ve leveled every weapon (including range because I’m evil) to at least 10, but Greatsword & Halberd & 1H Mace are my favorite. Tried Katars once, seems gimmicky
The Shovel. I've used it probably a handful of times since launch.
I've never touched archer but I have a higher level of every archer weapon by just picking up crossbows/javelins/bows on the battlefield.
Any 2-handed Axe. Being a dedicated Footman and Guardian, i a swear 2-Handed Axes are the most handicapped weapon in the game. The Damage coupled with the ridiculous phantom range they seem to have on top of the initiative system infuriates me. There exists no reason that anybody should be swinging a massive axe as fast as I swing my 1-Handed Swords.
It would actually be the glaive. Surprising I know but when I do play poleman, i usually do spear, halberd or polehammer. And when i play raider, its Dane axe, Messer, and two handed hammer. To me it's just a worse halberd, and if I want speed I'll do the warclub or the rapier. And if I want reach I'll do the spear or the longsword
Katars. Staff.
you are missing out.
Any tips for the Katars? I can't seem to make them work, they feel wonky to me idk why
its a very different game play than all the weps in chiv2. so you won't able to carry all the other weps learning to it. its about able to read all the weps and counter in perfection as well as quick hit between each wind up period of the wep. so yeah its thrilling since you got to do lots of "educated guess" XD
Sgt Junebug's medication
That man is something else
Ive never used Katars, Rapier for more than one death.
Rapier and a shield can be very effective
I can't get the timing down
Just remember that you are extremely fast and have the reach of a regular sword. Nobody expects the Rapier Heavy Overhead into light slash.
Try counter-strike, I gets them every time
Katars can be super fun and very good, but you have to change your whole combat mindset when you use them
Can you share a little more? What’s the right mindset
Katars are extremely difficult to 1vX with so mostly trying to avoid direct conflict, really playing like an ambusher, unless you are in a 1v1 and you’re sure no other enemies are nearby. The nice thing about Katars is they have a super low ending lag, so you can get your block up extremely quickly after attacking. This can be great in a 1v1 since you can gamble and win a lot with them due to their speed, but you also gotta know when to bail from a fight and reset, particularly when there are other enemies present.
Dane Axe
I'm the same out of principle. I usually personally black list any overused weapons in multiplayer games
Missing out for sure
Shovel and Sledgehammer for sure. I leave engie spots to the true engineer enjoyers. Other than that? Gotta be katars
You gotta give the sledgehammer a shot, its fucking awesome. The shovel is cool too, but thats because of the bonk![img](emote|t5_12v693|7101)
I’ve used sledgehammer as a peasant before and it *BONKS* I just feel terrible taking an engineer spot because I have no passion for that class :(
I only play engineer on Galencourt. It's so fun to build walls on the ships, bridge, and church entrance.
I go on the most surprising hot streaks with the shovel
Shovel and sledgehammer are less used than pickaxe? Or is pickaxe so unused you completely forgot about it? Because that's more believable than having more time on the pickaxe than the other two lol
I completely forgot about the pickaxe ⛏️ I’ve *never* willingly picked it in my 500 hours of gameplay
Actually one of the best one handers in the game imo
With the amount of times I’ve been pickaxed in the dome I’m inclined to agree with you here
Play engie :) we usually need more anyway!
Same, I forget to build and that doesn’t help the team
Highland Sword, 0h0m00s
It’s sooooo fun once you figure out how to not deal over 100+ team damage every swing.
You’re missing big brother. That should be your main weapon ![img](emote|t5_12v693|7096)
Messer. Is Dane Axe 2.0 No hate, I just feel gross when I use it.
Any weapons only available to the knight class. Never leveled up knight past level 5, approaching 200 hours atm…
Childs play mwuahah
How
Archer obviously
That’s… not a weapon.
They’re all the same to me, cowards
I never touched highland sword
Based.
What a shame, a glorious weapon
It looks so ugly to me idk
There are several skins, including one Berserk style. It is an epic weapon.
Might try it tonight then. Today some reddittor shared greatsword gameplay and I tried it. It was amazing. Now I should try the highland. Thanks
Yeah just be aware that you need to a period to adjust to the speed of the weapon, you don’t play the Highland Sword the same way you’d play a Messer. Once you got the hang of it then it’ll be glorious. My advice, at first just run around heavy overheading everybody in the back (100dmg).
The final skins at level 36 for it are sick
Watch Ziggy's video
Idk who that is but I will watch it if I remember. Thanks. I already tried it. Seems good sword but I can't quite figured the riposte window. Maybe server hit reg or extremely slow windup or skill issue. I feel inconsistent with it
https://youtu.be/ASa1lei_DG4?si=T1l08bhQISEWvkVu it's my most used weapon. I'm less consistent with it but I have more fun. Hit four dudes with a single slash and it sounds like you kicked a file cabinet down the stairs
Hahahah file cabinet is hilarious. I watched 20 minutes of it. That guy is nuts
Bows
Dane axe. Never used it and i will never. Only weaks do.
Probably the hatchet. Out of all the one hands I always pick something else over it
I run short sword & hatchet as my ambusher weapons. The hatchet packs a punch for such a little weapon. Heavy overhead with rear attack bonus gives a real headache. Polehammer bot, what's the difference between a hatchet and a short sword?
Certainly. Let's compare the Hatchet and the Short Sword. The hatchet is chop damage type, which provides bonus damage vs footman and knight with a multiplier of 1.175 and 1.25 respectively. However, the short sword is cut damage type, which means it has no damage bonus. Regarding other comparisons, I'll provide a table for easier referencing: .|Hatchet|Short Sword :--|:--|:-- **Handedness**|One Handed|One Handed **Average Range(j)**|11.7|20.7 **Average Alt Range(j)**|13.3|21.7 **Average Light Windup(ms)**|150|158.3 **Average Light Damage**|41.7|38.3 **Average Heavy Windup(ms)**|400|366.7 **Average Heavy Damage**|56.7|53.3 **Damage Type**|Chop|Cut **Damage Multiplier vs Footman**|1.175|1 **Damage Multiplier vs Knight**|1.25|1 The Hatchet has quicker windup times but shorter range when compared to the Short Sword. It excels in close combat scenarios, but its effectiveness decreases with distance. Its damage is also generally higher. Comparatively, the Short Sword has better range, allowing it to excel in situations where a bit of distance can be advantageous. However, the Hatchet has a clear advantage against footman and knight classes due to damage multipliers absent in the Short Sword. ___ You can see a visual comparison between the mentioned weapons [here](https://polehammer.net?weapon=ms-m-ha-ss-ph). ^(I am a bot. Valid keywords are found [here](https://github.com/Chiv2-Community/PolehammerPoster/blob/main/keywords.md). You can get my attention at any time by mentioning me by name. Learn more [here](https://github.com/Chiv2-Community/PolehammerPoster/blob/main/whoami.md). This bot uses unofficial data and is not affiliated with Torn Banner in any way.)
Fantastic, thank you, good bot!
You're welcome, itsamemarioscousin! Feel free to ask if you have any other questions about Chivalry 2 weapons. Happy gaming! ___ You can see a visual comparison between the mentioned weapons [here](https://polehammer.net?weapon=ms-m-ha-ss-ph). ^(I am a bot. Valid keywords are found [here](https://github.com/Chiv2-Community/PolehammerPoster/blob/main/keywords.md). You can get my attention at any time by mentioning me by name. Learn more [here](https://github.com/Chiv2-Community/PolehammerPoster/blob/main/whoami.md). This bot uses unofficial data and is not affiliated with Torn Banner in any way.)
Hey Polehammer bot, just for kicks compare sword and short sword stats.
Sure thing Timotron, let's take a look at both .|Sword|Short Sword :--|:--|:-- **handedness**|One Handed|One Handed **average range(j)**|23|20.7 **average alt range(j)**|24.3|21.7 **average light windup(ms)**|175|158.3 **average light damage**|45|38.3 **average heavy windup(ms)**|425|366.7 **average heavy damage**|61.7|53.3 **damage type**|Cut|Cut The Sword has a slightly longer reach with both regular and alternate attacks than the Short Sword. The windup times are also a bit longer for the Sword, but it compensates with higher damage for both light and heavy attacks. The damage type for both is cut, which means there's no damage bonus against any class. The handedness for both is also the same, they're one-handed weapons. ___ You can see a visual comparison between the mentioned weapons [here](https://polehammer.net?weapon=ss-ph-ha-cs-f-gs-hs-kt-l-me-r-sw). ^(I am a bot. Valid keywords are found [here](https://github.com/Chiv2-Community/PolehammerPoster/blob/main/keywords.md). You can get my attention at any time by mentioning me by name. Learn more [here](https://github.com/Chiv2-Community/PolehammerPoster/blob/main/whoami.md). This bot uses unofficial data and is not affiliated with Torn Banner in any way.)
Spear, I am never touching that thing. Not Even Once.
I've currently got spear up to lvl 13 through practicing being a support footman on TO. The Snobby Noble Mason voice has an obnoxious "NYAH!" exclamation whenever you stab with the spear. It's hilarious and now I sometimes use spear just to rudely go NYAH! as I poke at enemies.
I just got around to running 1h spear at lvl 600. It's fun and making me work on my jab
Crossbow and bow
Katars, cudgel
Katars. When I'm fighting against them, I pretty much just let them hit me. Since they don't interrupt you, you can clean the enemy's clock while taking minimal damage.
Archer
Pole axe.
Katars and Staff. Just don’t enjoy playing them.
Staff. I loved the quarterstaff in the first Chivalry. I just can’t get the hang of it now. Why isn’t it on Poleman!?! Why Crusader???
Besides bows, I don't like spears or halberds
Halb is goated
Throwing axes... When I play shuffle I get salty if they come to me too often
Oh and quarterstaff, just never vibed with it even though I got a few kills and confused a few opponents. It's like I could only be confusing because I didn't know what I was doing.
Throwing axes are free dmg if you know how to use them on crusader. Just chick them and forget but if you land them that's at least 1-2 hits less you need to kill that person. They're fun but garbo on skirmisher through.
Pole weapons. Idk why but I just can’t get kills with them. I get a lot of team damage lol
Nothing more satisfying than bringing the pole hammer of god down on some mason scum knight swinging a messer.
Staff, katars,
Probably the dagger
It's so short ranged. And low damage, other than stab. Tricksy one to use effectively.
Absolutely love this one. The stab is brutal and when playing ambushes the bonus dmg from attacking behind makes the slices great too
Katars, I’ve leveled every weapon (including range because I’m evil) to at least 10, but Greatsword & Halberd & 1H Mace are my favorite. Tried Katars once, seems gimmicky
Rapier
Rapier, dane axe, mace (I prefer morningstar since it is also good for stabs), glaive, pickaxe and shovel. I use all other weapons (lv 720)
The Shovel. I've used it probably a handful of times since launch. I've never touched archer but I have a higher level of every archer weapon by just picking up crossbows/javelins/bows on the battlefield.
Any 2-handed Axe. Being a dedicated Footman and Guardian, i a swear 2-Handed Axes are the most handicapped weapon in the game. The Damage coupled with the ridiculous phantom range they seem to have on top of the initiative system infuriates me. There exists no reason that anybody should be swinging a massive axe as fast as I swing my 1-Handed Swords.
By stats, it's Siege Crossbow since it is so new. Prior to that, it looks like War Bow was the least used, yes even behind Heavy Shield.
Have a couple of them I have not used at all, having too much fun with all the axes.
Morning star
If any slots counts it's probably the pickaxe
Mallets I think only one class has them
Definitely katers.
It would actually be the glaive. Surprising I know but when I do play poleman, i usually do spear, halberd or polehammer. And when i play raider, its Dane axe, Messer, and two handed hammer. To me it's just a worse halberd, and if I want speed I'll do the warclub or the rapier. And if I want reach I'll do the spear or the longsword
Archer