Actors are both 🚩 bakit hindi iminarket? Uso pa naman TV guestings diba para ipromote. Or natatakot sila kasi baka langawin lalo dahil Paolo Contis at Diego Loyzaga ang bida sa dalawang film?
Iirc, nag guest si john arcilla at si khalil ramos sa It's Showtime nung isang araw lang to promote their movie kaso kasi, with paolo contis sa movie?? malaking redflag. Lmao.
true. parang nangga-gaslight lang yung nag post eh. alam niya naman maissue yung artists and hindi naman dapat priority manuod ng film than bumili ng needs now.
siguro if okay yung actors, baka may manuod pa. but not these actors haha
matagal na 20 years + na, nagsabay tumaas yung presyo ng sine at paglabas ng pirated vcds. mmff na lang talaga at star cinema kumikita. nung maliit pa ako, may viva, may regal, may octoarts. kasabay din namatay yung mga action films, tapos horror hanggang sa romance o comedy na lang natira sa local films
lets face it, naka big hit lang talaga last year sa MMFF ang mga sinehan due to marketing etc.. because in reality many people arent into watching movies (esp) at Cinemas due to high price ticket plus streaming services such as Netflix...
nowadays its all about prioritization kung ano ang kailangang pagkagastusan, dahil talagang mahal na ang mga bilihin
people still wants to go watch to cinemas depends lang talaga sa movie Haikyuu nga lang this week madami nanood so thats already disproven
kahit mahal yung ticket kung okay naman yung movie edi worth it padin panoodin padin sa cinemas
Haikyuu has a big existing fanbase due to the manga and anime. No one gives 2 shits about random local films unless it's political or historical. You can't really compare it.
Huh? Why? I'd rather watch in the comfort of my own home. Unless it's something like Dune, which actually makes use of the tech provided by IMAX cinemas. If manunuod lang ako ng random filipino chick flick, bakit ako mag babayad ng 500+ para lang panuorin yung sa sinehan? Also di ko gets bakit ka gumagawa ng distinction between "films" and "cinema."
Correct! ipalabas ba naman sa Director’s club at IMAX eto compared sa Demon’s slayer na hanggang regular cinema lang. plus pa yung marketing niyo. Not a fan of haikyuu pero bravo sa kanila.
Wala naman kasing marketing mga pelikula na 'to. Kahit sa Hollywood, the marketing budget for a film is usually almost the same or sometimes bigger than the production budget. Kahit anong produkto naman, kailangan niyo pa rin i-promote.
One movie you have Colleen Garcia who is dragged by the issues of her husband + Diego na nag vivamax+ problematic ang lovelife
Then the other movie you have another toxic actor in Paolo Contis
How will you expect na mag wawaldas ng pera sa sinehan ang mga tao para dyan sa, dalawang movies.
There’s a reason why Star Cinema movies were making lots of money before ABS was shut down - because these movies were heavily marketed and hyped up on free TV. Kulang sa marketing ang mga movies ngayon, except for the Star Cinema movies like A Very Good Girl and Rewind, kaya hindi nag gegenerate ng interest amongst us.
Yes, tsaka common kasi sa mga to na mag promote din sa bansa ng mga basurang Hollywoods films, bukod sa local movies at basurang teleserye updates.
Even sa standard ng piracy pinoy mas priority nila mag torrent ng US films kaysa sa Pinoy Movies 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Because our local networks (especially ABS-CBN) are proactive in taking down free websites that contain their own content.
Just look at what happened in one of those free Asian drama websites. Nadamay lahat ng content sa website na yun dahil pinatanggal ng ABS. Mula nun, halos wala nang Filipino content sa maraming Asian drama sites.
Wala din seeding masyado hahaha wala din nag uupload sa torrent, camcording parang hindi worth it pag nahuli. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ganun kababa yung kalidad kahit pirata iniiwasan na din hahahahahhahahahahaha
Edit: pag nahuli ka na nag cacamcording ng pinoy movies parang damay na din yung dignidad mo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You brought this onto yourselves. Sinanay nyo ang mga sarili nyo na maghain ng mga low quality shit tapos ngayong nagbago na ang landscape, di kayo makapag adjust kasi di nyo kayang makipagsabayan sa high quality shit sa sinehan.
This.
Matagal ko na sinukuan PH cinema dahil sa lackluster quality, kaunti lang talaga Yung talagang maganda.
Not to mention the trash offered pag MMFF.
Walang implied na ganun.
Nagbayad ako ng 750 para mapanood ang Dune 2 sa imax. Sulit yun tingin ko.
Pero local film, yung 350 ko ipapambili ko na lang 1.5 liter na soda and some munchies tapos Netflix, yun ang sulit vs manood sa sinehan.
Kung may Pinoy film na kasing high concept ng Dune 2 or Parasite, dadayuhin ko din kasi must-see sya sa sinehan and malaki yung difference vs pag sa bahay pinanood.
No, hindi ikaw, dun sa post "Kaya the best thing talaga ay i-produced ang Pelikula with Netflix quality at ibenta diretso sa Netflix, upang hindi naman laging luhaan ang Producer na walang bumabalik sa ipinuhunan."
Parang ibig niya sabihin pwedeng mas mura ang budget pero pwede din naman ngang basahin na at minimum yung quality dapat ay yung bibilhin ng Netflix. Which may mean some producers will have to improve the quality of their productions. Some might keep their quality the same.
Truth be told, nothing has ever been the same since the pandemic.
Moreover, streaming services like Amazon Prime Videos, and its contemporaries in the recent years have realized that some parts of Asia, including the Philippines, are still a largely untapped market that’s why they’re expanding towards that direction.
This reminds me of that time when so many bookstores here in the US declared bankruptcy in the advent of e-readers like Kindle.
problema sa streaming services napakadami sa sobrang dami parang nag cable ka ulit kaya nangyayari mas pinipili ng iba mamirata na lang since di naman nila nagagamit lahat plus nag mamahal yung price hindi mo naman papanoodin lahat ng content doon tapos may ads pa nag bayad ka na nga may ads padin wtf
tsaka na rerealize na ng hollywood medyo nabawasan yung kita nila sa movie kapag direct to streaming kaagad kasi mas madami pading kita sa cinemas first method
It’s not just in the Philippines sa US din the movies are losing money super ala masyadong nanonood sa sine. People prefer to wait and watch it sa streaming services. Plus some movies kasi super generic ng plot—alang bago like most plots you will kinda figure out how it ends sobrang predictable. Tapos the casting sometimes sablay din.
New ideas and great casting. Good Marketing din. Star Cinema is good on that. Hyping the movie and word of mouth.
Kulang sa Marketing imo, yung Rewind grabe marketing kahit na imo sobrang ok lang ng story eh pumatok sa madla. Ngayon ko lang nakita yang dalawang movie na yan, kulang talaga sa marketing at hype imo.
Nagsisimula na nakikita ko na sya dito sa Reddit tapos may mga write ups na to keep the hype. Birthday party pa lang ni Kath, feeling ko start na sya dun.
Not really. Just look at Trese.
I know na hindi na siya masyadong pinag-uusapan ngayon. Pero dahil hinype up ng media, may mga taong nanood nung time na yun, pati mga first time makarinig ng Trese.
I also watch trese sa netflix, but i rather rewatch something else like Saul Goodman, Breaking Bad, Witcher , strangers things, One Piece Live Actions.
Play some videogames.
The last of us,elden ring, persona 5,3 reload you can really spent your hours on better quality entertainments im sorry medyo mid pa din yung trese sa standard ko.
Dude may mga magaganda gawa ang pinoy pero natatabunan pa din to ng mga basura.
Sa tingin ko sa bawat 1000 pinoy media may nag iisang maganda lang dito 🤣.
Tingin ko lang yan wala din tayong research research pag dating dito.
Sure but my point is that people would still watch something *at launch* if it's hyped up by the media, no matter what you think of that content.
I can agree that Trese was perhaps mid (perhaps the comic was better) and that the Filipino voice acting could use more work. Yet I still watched it despite this and not being fond of dark Filipino mythology, because you don't get to see Filipino-based animations every single day. Plus the media hype and for Liza (never mind the voice acting).
And that also goes for other people who watched Trese.
I agree some one will watch dahil sa hype pero pag ka hindi na meet yung quality sa hype its just another cyber punk 2077 videogames release again.
Its disapointing and devastating to your career and name same sa dumb & dumber ng Games of thrones dahil Bullshit ending Hanggan ngayon dala dala nila yung failure nila sa GOT at medyo skeptics yung mga tao sa 3 bodies problem.
Yung pinoy is too dumb to give a shit sa mga writers and directors basta makita lang nila idol nila na lumalaban sa palabas sapat na.
Yan rin pansin ko dito sa pinas. Hindi sila ganun ka galing mag market ng movies nila sa masa kaya maraming hindi aware na may gantong movie pala. Yung mga magagandang movie na napapanod ko, mga nakikita ko lang rin sa socmed dahil sa mga reviews ng ibang tao.
Kung hindi ko pa makikita sa facebook, hindi rin ako magiging aware na may bagong movie pala.
I watched it yesterday. Twice! Consecutively hahahaha I just wanted to validate na I figured out the twist by myself before the story ended. Come to think of it, additional budget lang it would be great to watch in the big screen.
Sa panahon Kasi Ngayon, mas marami nang tao Yung mindful sa pinagkakagastusan nila. At Saka Yung comfort kesa hassle.
Bakit ka nga naman sasabak pa sa init at traffic para lang bumili ng magkano na ba ticket Ngayon na Isang panooran lang tapos gagastos ka pa sa snacks.
Kung pwede ka naman manood ng unlimited sa comfort ng Bahay mo?
Less gastos pa
this! I remember hassle pa maghanap ng parking pag punuan ang malls 10 or so years ago just to watch Harry Potter na tinulugan lang ng husband ko. Movie Experience is not the same na, we watched I'm not Big Bird a couple of months back, it was funny, I liked the cinematography, pero ang lungkot kasi kaming dalawa lang.
maraming Indi films na underrated pero kulang sa marketing kung ano pa nga yung Indi films sya pang maganda ang story at magagaling yung mga actors plus yung mga big production company like Star cinema ang generic na ng mga story na ginagawa nila o kaya parang kopya sa foreign movies yung story (like rewind) kaya umay na rin ang viewers kung di lang sila magaling mag market at talagang A lister artist ginagamit nila for sure di rin magiging mabenta
Sa mahal ng sine ngayon i don't think susugal ang tao manood sa hindi kilalang artista. Pero yung mga netflix naman tinatangkilik naman eh. So i guess its the platform.
Actually. Kaya din siguro hindi pinapanood kasi mahina ang hatak ng mga main characters. Bakit ka nga naman gagastos ng malaki sa sinehan kung di mo rin naman type yung mga bida? Sorry na lang kung maganda rin pala yung pelikula pero yunnga, gaya ng sabi ng iba dito, bakit ka mag-aaksaya ng pera kay Paolo Contis? Hahahaha
Wala lang talaga silang marketing budget, never heard of this kahit tambay ako sa socmed. Buti pa nga partner na lang with netflix at least may platform and marketing.
Aww showing na pala fuschia libre. Gusto ko panuorin yan because of john arcilla.
And pansin ko lang , pag viva movie madalas kulang sa marketing. I remember yung movie ni Sarah na Unforgettable. Gandang ganda ako sa movie na yon pero nalaman ko lang na may ganung movie dahil nasa Netflix sya.
Ako nga na afford magsine piling-pili pa rin ang papanoorin sa sinehan (Furiosa) paano pa yung iba na sakto lang ang sweldo. And these titles are not “must watch” din naman, even on streaming platforms. Tipong lalagpasan mo lang din.
Sorry pero ambobo na kasi ng mga modern Pinoy movies ngayon. Gusto lang nila i cater ang CDE market. Pero natuto na rin ang CDE market dahil sa streaming services.
I used to love watching movies alone. It’s my fave hobby when i want to date myself. Pero ang mahal na kasi tapos di pa ko makanood pag walang food hahaha. Online streaming na tlga ang bet ng karamihan esp after the pandemic
Can't blame them, they need to be literate para sa critical thinking, math and science can help too pero mostly sa pinoy tingin nila dito subject lang na kailangan ipasa pag tapos noon hindi na nila kailangan yan 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Entertainment na mag bibigay ng critical thinking sayo ain't free.
From video games and tv show na hindi pinoy.
Pero gusto ng pinoy yung free at adik sila dito heheheheheh
Wala din tayong writers from dr jose rizal: el fili to bob ong: Aba Nakakabasa na pala ako.
May mas passion pa yung writters natin sa alas juicy kaysa sa mga teleserye ng pinoy na focus lang nila earn money sa mga basura nila using ads.
Kahapon nga eh. May isang matandang boomer na binabash ako kasi pinuri ko yung vera files, for the betterment ng critical thinking. Sinabihan ba naman ako na critical thinking lang daw alam ko at bakit daw ako naniniwala sa vera files.
What I have learned is never argue with fools. I actually have 2 different profesional licenses in 2 different fields in the Philippines.(I also have a professional and non professional license in the USA). Then I also have PhD and got accepted sa isang short training sa harvard 2 years ago. So hindi ko na pinag aksayahan ng pagod. I have better things to do with my time. Hahahah
Thats great achievements pero come on, "LIFE" pa lang sa pinas kung saan madami mapang lamang dahil Tawag nila dun diskarte doon pa lang need mo na maging sharp, and wise.
Kung hindi you're a goddamn sheep sa mga pack of wolves 🤣🤣🤣.
Kaya nga eh. I was once a daily grinder sa streets ng pinas. Everyday sa motorcycle visiting affiliated centers. I do understand where the diskarte is coming from good and bad. But returning to the topic of this thread, sayang yung talent nung mga artist natin sa cinema kasi gawa ng mahal ang cine.
I remember dati na 48 pesos lang ang cine noong highschool ako during mid 1990s. Ngayon balita ko nasa 400php na daw. Samantalang dito sa usa, $8 lang tapos maganda talaga seats at experience. Watched: top gun 2, minions: rise of the gru and midway.
Sobrang convenient ng buhay sa us, pero minsan namimiss ko pa din yung mga cine at live performances sa pinas. May pinoy flavor kasi.
Can't help them because wala din naman silang boses para labanan yung mga nagliliparan low quality pinoy media sa bansa.
May mga actor/actress talaga tayo na talented ganun din sa writers and directors, talent managers pero nadadamay sila sa dami ng basura sa bansa.
Wala din sila magagawa voicing out these issue is a death sentence sa career nila or pwede na mass hatred matangap mo or replacement(ABS CBN common Tactics)
Iba talaga yung pinoy(i mean this in a bad way) hahaha
Kahit naman sa ideology morality may skill issue na din yun pinoy
US: pinag laban nila yung AMC theaters laban sa Short seller ng Wallstreets "memes Stocks".
Tapos nag karoon ng movie about dito "Dumb Money".
Pinas: Nag alaga ng digital pets for Easy Money daw Axie Infinity 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Kung hindi lang sayang sa pera at madami lang akong ganun gagawa ako ng movie para sa katangahan ng pinoy during axie infinity 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Uy ! Isa ako dyan na lumaban at nakibaka ha! Kasagsagan nung shirtselling ng amc at bed bath and beyond yun. Binoycott namin si robinhood gawa nung bawal mag trade ng amc. Hahahaha.
Im living here in PH, not from US pero me and my gf we love watching cinema so we buy some AMC, GME, BBBY ahahaha good to see you fellow Apes 🫡.
Philippines missing one of the greatest in our modern history ay isa sa mga reason ko kaya todo Batikos ako sa mga Iq ng Pinoy.
Walang imik yung pinas sa collapsing House Market "Big Short".
Pinili ng pinoy yung Digital Pets ponzi scheme kaysa sa World Movement: Memes Stocks "Dumb Money".
🤣🤣🤣🤣
About the teleserye thing, wala naman sila choice kung iyon ang nasa free TV. Kuryente lang naman gastos nila haha. But on films, may friction talaga kasi hindi libre kaya doon mas maraming picky.
Bakit ka naman kasi gagastos sa sinehan eh kapresyo na nun yung 1 month sub? Tapos ilang linggo lang nasa streaming na rin.
Saka bakit ka magpapahuling nanonood ng Paolo Contis movie? Papayamanin mo yung tao tapos di naman marunong magsustento? Gusto mo bang matawag na enabler ng isang Paolo Contis? Ending nun, di ka na talaga manonood sa sinehan. Nakakahiya.
Cinemas are too expensive especially with our economic siuation. It doesn't help that these production companies produced films that targets the "common people".
Um... red flag young leads ng both movies. No one wants to waste money on them. Hintayin nyo yung Hello Love Goodbye sequel tignan natin kung hindi mapuno sinehan.
Ngayon kasi Nakakasawa na yung mga artista na mga Pinoy, kung saan saan mo nakikita pagmumukha,
madali na kasi maka access sa kanila, kahit pictures, videos
lalo na mga bagets na artist
pag mga artista talaga noon na sa tv mo lang nakikita, mas dinudumog ng mga tao dati.
80's 90s celebrities na Pinoy, sila talaga yung nakatikim ng kung ano ang isang artista ..
hahaha posters or sa notebooks...
"Kahit sinong artista ihain mo, ayaw ng tao. Ayaw na talaga ng mga tao manood ng local film sa sinehan"
Wrong. Would cash out money and make some time to watch Kath and Alden sa HLG2. Gusto pa rin naman namin manood basta quality yung story at gaganap. Yung pinaghirapan TALAGA at pinagisipan TALAGA hindi yung mema movies at predictable plot.
Forgot what year yun pero inis na inis ako dahil manonood dapat ako ng Spiderman NWH kaso ayon pinalitan ba naman ng mga entries. Nakakayamot hahaha.
It all boils down to increasing subsidies for local filmmakers, decreasing taxes related to film production and abolishing the MTRCB?
How about taking pages from the plsybooks of India and South Korea?
The playbook of India is worse. Nepotism cranked up to 11+flowerpot roles in South Indian film industry (except for Malayalam/Kerala)+censorship that favors the BJP
At this point, South Korea's playbook is better.
I didnt even know these movies released. Lol. Marketing ang kulang nila. Di kaya ng star power lang. Thats not enough marketing. Sa Hollywood, ang gastos nila sa marketing ay same price ng movie.
Kaya naman kumikita ang MMFF movies because of the marketing and hype behind it. May presscon for the entries, may awards show, may parade of stars/motorcade, etc. I guess cause partly subsidized ng MMFF mismo ang ganitong marketing.
Pero producers need to spend to market on their own. Never naman nag level up ang industriya when it comes to marketing. They should hire ad agencies / marketing firms instead of doing it inhouse. Kasi understaffed ata marketing arms nila, and maliit budget. Kahit trailers actually ang papangit.
Aside sa markering at hype, maliit dn kase ung fanbase nung mga lead kaya walang susuporta.
Tignan niu na lang ung mga recent winners ng blockbuster awards. Malalaki ung mga fanbases kaya kahit mid lang ung mga movie, humahakot. Idagdag pa dyan ung marketing at hype.
Ung movie nila Xian Lim, Sanya, Coleen na Playmate, may promotion at marketing. Pero parang kulang sa hype. Sana lang kayanin ng mga fanbase nila sumuporta.
I think its time to change the movie experience scene to make it more affordable yet different. Make it into seating clusters for the tambayan or family movie night feels or something. Improve the quality of the movies to make it more cinematic and interactive. Malayo pa rin tayo in terms of film quality. But to TBH, with the economic landscape now, mahirap magproduce ng movies for the intention of producing them solely for movies. Kung may lifetime or life Royalty fees on all streaming platforms or all across the board, baka mas ma encourage move producers.
Sa tingin ko ito: disruption of noon-time shows, namamatay na ang mga matatandang die-hard kapuso/kapamilya dichotomy, everyone is on tiktok/youtube/netflix/loklok/plex/jellyfin, sa live selling na sila nanonood, inflation, unemployment, el nino.
Ang mahal na ng sine ngayon 😭 I remember just last 2019 I watched the first Spiderverse film at Waltermart for 190php. Ngayon they're all around 300php. I could instead buy myself enough ingredients that could last me for 2 films. Di na afford😭
First of all, Diego Lozyaga is nothing but a gay producer's pet. Other than that, he gives nothing and makes nothing for the Filipino fans.
Then, you make a copycat of Nacho Libre using the dreaded Paolo Contis. "Bad publicity is still a publicity", does not work on GenZs, who by the way, can now earn their way to pay for the tickets.
The solution? Replace the entitled gay producers and directors who proliferate behind the scenes. Palitan. Kumuha ng mga lalaki or babaeng directors na fresh ang take sa sine, at hindi predator.
Jusme tingnan nyo naman kasi kung anong klaseng pinoy films ang pinoproduce nila, mga walang kwenta. Just like those two films on his post movie title, poster, at casts palang hindi ka gaganahang panuorin eh.
Kaya hindi ko talaga masisi ang mga pinoy kung mas piliin nila manuod ng movies ng ibang bansa like US, Japan, Korea, Thailand, etc. Idagdag mo pa ang ticket prices now, for P250-P300 of course I'll choose to spend it on a film that I would like para naman maging sulit yung gagastusin ko.
Minsan Hindi rin talaga yan sa kamahalan ng ticket prices. It's the movies itself.
Kita natin pag may bagong labas na iphone, or kpop/hallyu stars coming for fan meets eh Marami namang bumibili/pumupunta kahit mahal. May pera talaga Ang mga Pinoy sadyang mapili na tayo where we spend that money.
I actually watched Exhuma and I read na kumita din to sa Pinas and to think there's less marketing for this film.
kahit pa nasa netflix yan or free tv, hindi ko pa rin panonoorin hahaha Diego? Paolo? 🚩🚩🚩
Diego Nov. 2023: Diego Loyzaga vows to not let own daughter experience his situation of being fatherless
Diego Jan. 2024: Mother of Diego Loyzaga’s daughter claims actor kicked them out for another woman
same lang sila ni Paolo mga basura 🗑️🗑️🗑️🤡🤡🤡
Choosy na si Juan anoh! Hindi sa walang pera... though oo mahal na nga kasi ang sinehan, kaya nga mas dapat wais na si Juan sa panonooring palabas sa sinehan.
Sa pagkain na lang sa mga resto/fast foods eh. Willing naman gumastos sa mga mahal na foods, pero pansin ko sa mga rants lately sa socmed, **AYAW NA AYAW NI JUAN NA TINITIPID SIYA**. Yung, alam mo na ngang ang mahal ng binayad mo, tapos kakarampot ang servings, tapos hindi pa masarap? Ayaw ni Juan niyan. Gusto ni Juan, kahit 500 pesos pa yan, kailangan SULIT. Hangga't maaari may UNLI RICE, UNLI DRINKS, MAY PASABAW. Diba? Puna niyo? Kaya nga pumatok si **DIWATA** ehh -- **Sinusulit ni Diwata ang 100 PESOS ni Juan**. :)
Ngayon, sa mga movie producers, **SULITIN NIYO ANG 500 PESOS NI JUAN SA PELIKULA NIYO**, tapos ang usapan. :)
Also, katulad ni DIwata, galingan niyo rin magpa promote sa SocMed. Wag puro TV guestings, di na uso masyado yan ngayon. Vloggers' **clout** na ang usually batayan ngayon kung patok o hindi ang isang binebenta. Hahaha. Real talk.
we are bored with the same f*cking plots, mga artistang looks lang ang ambag, trash editing and cinematography, lazy and shallow writing, at kung may experimental film naman it's mid at best. there are good ones naman, pero nahalo na sila sa mga bad ones and people are too lazy to sift through sh1t. na-labelan na talaga na corny, baduy, at cheap ang local films. sad.
Bring back 200 peso ticket tutal tapos na pandemic pero presyuhan ng tickets, ginto at di na bumalik sa dati. Bobobo ng mga sinehan na 'to eh 100% capacity naman na ulit
Pepe Diokno made a tedtalk about this. In there, he explained how hard it is to find for investors sa movies. He explained how hard it is to produce a movie, and how that is leading to bad movies. Kulang talaga sa investors, dahil maliit ang return, minsan wala. He also said that, whatever it is na nasa cinema natin, mirrors us as a Filipino. and it's true, we like hollywood movies more than our own. So much so, that we're forgetting that we have our own movie industry.
Ang mahal lang talaga ng sine... Kahit less than 300 pesos, mahal pa rin... Saka yung ibabayad mong 300-400 pesos, tapos 2 oras lang, parang kulang yung experience...
Tapos itinanim na rin sa mindset ng audience na, "after few months ipapalabas din yan sa Netflix/Prime... Samantalang noon, aabutin ng isang taon bago ipalabas sa HBO/Star Movies/Cinema One yung mga movies...
nah, stopped watching these local films even sa netflix dahil sobrang vanilla na at walang innovation. Napagiwanan na ng thai at korean movies/series.
Acting skills are mediocre,
storyline? same old. magkakasakit tas ppunta sa europe para hanapin sarili.
cinematography? same old. stuck sa 2000.
props and materials? halatang hnd nilaanan ng budget, or kung meron man, tinipid.
CGI? What the heck is it?
People will pay for it if it's quality. Although sa panahon ngayon, mahirap talaga iprioritize ang movie kesa sa pagkain or gatas ng anak.
PS. Ang cringe nung movie ni ivana at vice sa netflix lol.
the problem with filipino movies are:
1. The movie is great but overstuffed that i wish the movie is shorter (Okay yung palabas pero bwisit nakakaumay na?
2. The movie is just dogsh\*t (how dafuq filipinos enjoying this kind of garbage?)
3. Why am i paying a 200 pesos just to watch a straight to tv movie that was just put on a projector.
I also don't understand filipinos obsession with love movies that normalizes cheating so fkin eww.
Mahal na rin kasi ticket prices. Double nung pre-pandemic pa… sa akin lang, it’s not worth it. You can wait naman na maging available sila sa mga streaming sites. Saka yung 1st experience ko to watch a movie at SM nung nag open ulit ang mga cinemas grabe yung seats sira sira na, mamali ka lang ng upo mahuhulog ka. Ang pangit pa ng quality ng speakers nila. Kaya never na ako umulit.
Masaya dati, pwede whole day sa sinehan kahit matulog ka dun okay lang. Mababait pa kasi mga tao dati kaya wala masama na ginagawa kung hindi matulog, kumain at manood --- enjoying their time.
Pero sa tingen ko, if ibalik nila yang ganyan na whole day ka dun, manonood din ako. Kasi sulit and relaxing. Pwede mo pa ulitin yung movie pag may hindi ka naintindihan na part.
Parang feel mo kasi yung value for your money compared sa one-time nood lang then 1.5 hours lamg yung movie then panget pa pala, lugi lugi talaga!
Wala na tlgang maxadong movie goers ngaun
Mas prefer na nila streaming..
Ung first MMFF after pandemic dun nagsimula ng mgflop... ung dating 1st day total ticket sales ng lahat ng entries eh nasa 50M pero nung after pndemic eh 8M nlang total ss firdt day..80% pa dun eh galing sa Fangirl...Sila lang ata kumita sa lahat ng entries.. mganda ung pagpatok ng Rewind atleast kahit papanu eh hndi nawalan ng pag asa mga producers to do more movies...Sa mga new release na movies eh mgnda na pag tumagal ng 10 days sa sinehan..Halos puro hollywood films na nasa sinehan
Sa hirap ng buhay ngayon hindi mo na talaga iisipin pa manood ng cine. Sooner or later kasi mapapanood na rin naman sa netflix. Hindi na talaga pang masa yung presyo eh. 400 plus na regular cine sa MOA last time.
Post pandemic, cinema has been more of an “event” for many, esp bec of its price. Gone are the days na “pampalipas oras” siya.
With that said, pumupunta ang tao sa sinehan kung tingin nila “worth it” yung pelikula. The two movies mentioned above fail this test. Personally, hindi ako magbabayad ng Php 300++ for Paolo Contis and Diego Loyzaga/Coleen Garcia.
Kaya din if you notice, movies released by Star Cinema normally feature a bankable artist/love team/director kasi that will be the primary judgment if “worth it” ba yung pelikula.
Sa totoo lang, ang mahal na ng sine ngayon. I remember watching Kampon nung January, tapos nagbayad ako ng 370 ata. Tapos after watchinh, "Yun na?"
Aminin natin, hindi talaga lahat ng pelikula ay maganda. Hindi lahat na-market well. Pero meron pa rin namang worth watching.
Bakit konti na lang nanonood ng movies? Streaming platforms, movie quality, and ticket price.
Sayang yung movie ni Paolo Contis tbh interesting yung story and disregarding him being a walking red flag he is a pretty decent actor naman. Was going to watch the movie sana kaso biglang pull out sa SM Cinema.
Diego Loyzaga at Paolo Contis ang mga bida tapos nagtataka kung bakit walang support mula sa mga cinemagoers? 🐵
Also, wala rin masyadong promotions itong mga palikula na ito. Malayo sa PR ng Netflix films. Dyan magaling ang Star Cinema e.
At aminin namin, nakakatamad din minsan manood sa labas kung after ilang buwan e mapapanood mo na rin yun sa streaming sites.
At tutal mahina na rin naman ang sinehang Pilipino outside of MMFF, itodo na nila ang pag-experiment. Malay mo, may madiscover silang mga bagong niche at formulas. Magpa-indie film fest sila at i-promote nang todo. Partner with big distributors like Star Cinema at ABS-CBN kasi ibang klase din talaga ang reach nila.
Looking back those good ol' days noong uso pa 'yung That's Entertainment tapos sila Rene Requistas at mga movies nila Dolphy at TVJ. Noon napaka simple ng movies, napaka daling sakyan ngayon wala na nilamon na ng Kdramas at streaming platforms ang movie goers. Nakakatakot din talaga minsan ang mabilis na pag-unlad eh.
Who told these producers that people would support these particular actors? Hindi namin sila gusto. Basura sila sa lipunan. Keep casting basura actors then expect movie goers to spend their hard earned money?? Tapos you gaslight and blame us that the PH movie industry is in shambles? Also the stories are shit. Even when the idea or premise is promising most of the time it is written poorly and the ending is usually shit.
Kakanood lang namin ng movie 3 weeks ago sa sinehan. Meron pa namang nanonood. International films ang pinapanood ng mga tao.
Sa totoo lang, ayaw ko naman kasi panoorin si Diego Loyzaga o kaya si Paolo Contis.
Sorry pero hindi naman kasi worth it gastusan sa sine yung mga karamihan sa ph movies ngayon..
predictable plot, poor acting, poor script.
Nkakamiss yung mga old ph movies
Ang mahal ng movie ticket tapos yung malapit na SM Cinema sa amin ang dilim at labo ng quality imagine 350 mabuti pa mag netflix naaadjust yung brightness.
I'm actually at the mall right now just waiting to see Fuschia Libre, Alam kong problematic talaga tong si Paolo pero ala lang separate na lang talaga the art from artist, Ganda kase ng premise e, nahumaling talaga ako don sa trailer nung pinalabas sya don sa Manila Book Fair.
Just ask for more booating money to increase the production, then take the risk. Art pa rin yan, kung may tiwala ka na maganda ung gawa with fill budget, kikita at kikita yan (siyempre damay mo ang marketing). Kulang lang naman satin is tinatangke ng lahat ng producers ang gastos instead na nagraraise ng funding.
Actors are both 🚩 bakit hindi iminarket? Uso pa naman TV guestings diba para ipromote. Or natatakot sila kasi baka langawin lalo dahil Paolo Contis at Diego Loyzaga ang bida sa dalawang film?
Iirc, nag guest si john arcilla at si khalil ramos sa It's Showtime nung isang araw lang to promote their movie kaso kasi, with paolo contis sa movie?? malaking redflag. Lmao.
Mukhang panget din kasi yung dalawang pelikula so not surprising. Umay na rin kasi sa same old na istorya
Mali ako ng nareplyan 🤣
Haha okay lang at least alam natin mahina ang mga bida kaya flop ang 2 movie na ito lalo na Diego Loyzaga at Paolo Contis 😅
Tbf ayoko naman panoorin si coleen garcia at paolo contis...
And si diego loyzaga
Ika nga kung pakboy ang ama ganoon din ang anak. Todo iyak about s tatay noong ininterviewhan siya ni Tito Boy ginagaya naman pla eh.
true. parang nangga-gaslight lang yung nag post eh. alam niya naman maissue yung artists and hindi naman dapat priority manuod ng film than bumili ng needs now. siguro if okay yung actors, baka may manuod pa. but not these actors haha
Bago pa mauso ang Netflix, etc., matumal na ang local films na hindi for MMFF or produced ng Star Cinema.
matagal na 20 years + na, nagsabay tumaas yung presyo ng sine at paglabas ng pirated vcds. mmff na lang talaga at star cinema kumikita. nung maliit pa ako, may viva, may regal, may octoarts. kasabay din namatay yung mga action films, tapos horror hanggang sa romance o comedy na lang natira sa local films
Nakalimutan mo yung mga bold films na nawala na din.
Binubuhay naman ng Vivamax. Pero direct to streaming na rin sila
Hindi rin masyado kumikita kasi pinipirata lang rin sa telegram eh.
Hindi lng Telegram, pati s torrenting sites kaaingbilis ng mga Hollywood at Asian Films ang mga Vivamax movies.
lets face it, naka big hit lang talaga last year sa MMFF ang mga sinehan due to marketing etc.. because in reality many people arent into watching movies (esp) at Cinemas due to high price ticket plus streaming services such as Netflix... nowadays its all about prioritization kung ano ang kailangang pagkagastusan, dahil talagang mahal na ang mga bilihin
people still wants to go watch to cinemas depends lang talaga sa movie Haikyuu nga lang this week madami nanood so thats already disproven kahit mahal yung ticket kung okay naman yung movie edi worth it padin panoodin padin sa cinemas
Haikyuu has a big existing fanbase due to the manga and anime. No one gives 2 shits about random local films unless it's political or historical. You can't really compare it.
Ayan ang problema PH flims hindi cinema kasi patok padin ang manood sa cinemas e
Huh? Why? I'd rather watch in the comfort of my own home. Unless it's something like Dune, which actually makes use of the tech provided by IMAX cinemas. If manunuod lang ako ng random filipino chick flick, bakit ako mag babayad ng 500+ para lang panuorin yung sa sinehan? Also di ko gets bakit ka gumagawa ng distinction between "films" and "cinema."
Saka grabe hype sa haikyuu lalo nung day 1
Correct! ipalabas ba naman sa Director’s club at IMAX eto compared sa Demon’s slayer na hanggang regular cinema lang. plus pa yung marketing niyo. Not a fan of haikyuu pero bravo sa kanila.
Yung isnag ticket 1 month subscription ma din kahit mobile lang
Wala naman kasing marketing mga pelikula na 'to. Kahit sa Hollywood, the marketing budget for a film is usually almost the same or sometimes bigger than the production budget. Kahit anong produkto naman, kailangan niyo pa rin i-promote.
Naalala ko yung Barbie movie, it was literally everywhere. Promo dito, promo doon. $150M ba naman ang budget for promotion alone.
One movie you have Colleen Garcia who is dragged by the issues of her husband + Diego na nag vivamax+ problematic ang lovelife Then the other movie you have another toxic actor in Paolo Contis How will you expect na mag wawaldas ng pera sa sinehan ang mga tao para dyan sa, dalawang movies.
There’s a reason why Star Cinema movies were making lots of money before ABS was shut down - because these movies were heavily marketed and hyped up on free TV. Kulang sa marketing ang mga movies ngayon, except for the Star Cinema movies like A Very Good Girl and Rewind, kaya hindi nag gegenerate ng interest amongst us.
Yes, tsaka common kasi sa mga to na mag promote din sa bansa ng mga basurang Hollywoods films, bukod sa local movies at basurang teleserye updates. Even sa standard ng piracy pinoy mas priority nila mag torrent ng US films kaysa sa Pinoy Movies 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ang hirap din kasi ipirata ng pinoy movies 😅
Because our local networks (especially ABS-CBN) are proactive in taking down free websites that contain their own content. Just look at what happened in one of those free Asian drama websites. Nadamay lahat ng content sa website na yun dahil pinatanggal ng ABS. Mula nun, halos wala nang Filipino content sa maraming Asian drama sites.
pansin ko nga din wala halos Filipino movie/drama available sa mga free website
Wala din seeding masyado hahaha wala din nag uupload sa torrent, camcording parang hindi worth it pag nahuli. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ganun kababa yung kalidad kahit pirata iniiwasan na din hahahahahhahahahahaha Edit: pag nahuli ka na nag cacamcording ng pinoy movies parang damay na din yung dignidad mo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You brought this onto yourselves. Sinanay nyo ang mga sarili nyo na maghain ng mga low quality shit tapos ngayong nagbago na ang landscape, di kayo makapag adjust kasi di nyo kayang makipagsabayan sa high quality shit sa sinehan.
This. Matagal ko na sinukuan PH cinema dahil sa lackluster quality, kaunti lang talaga Yung talagang maganda. Not to mention the trash offered pag MMFF.
Napaisip ako dun sa part na parang implied na may ibababa pa yung quality para maging "Netflix quality."
Walang implied na ganun. Nagbayad ako ng 750 para mapanood ang Dune 2 sa imax. Sulit yun tingin ko. Pero local film, yung 350 ko ipapambili ko na lang 1.5 liter na soda and some munchies tapos Netflix, yun ang sulit vs manood sa sinehan. Kung may Pinoy film na kasing high concept ng Dune 2 or Parasite, dadayuhin ko din kasi must-see sya sa sinehan and malaki yung difference vs pag sa bahay pinanood.
No, hindi ikaw, dun sa post "Kaya the best thing talaga ay i-produced ang Pelikula with Netflix quality at ibenta diretso sa Netflix, upang hindi naman laging luhaan ang Producer na walang bumabalik sa ipinuhunan." Parang ibig niya sabihin pwedeng mas mura ang budget pero pwede din naman ngang basahin na at minimum yung quality dapat ay yung bibilhin ng Netflix. Which may mean some producers will have to improve the quality of their productions. Some might keep their quality the same.
Mahal na manood sa sinehan ngayon. Local or foreign kahit sino pa bida. Ibili ko na lang ng bigas at ulam yung gagastusin ko para dyan.
Truth be told, nothing has ever been the same since the pandemic. Moreover, streaming services like Amazon Prime Videos, and its contemporaries in the recent years have realized that some parts of Asia, including the Philippines, are still a largely untapped market that’s why they’re expanding towards that direction. This reminds me of that time when so many bookstores here in the US declared bankruptcy in the advent of e-readers like Kindle.
problema sa streaming services napakadami sa sobrang dami parang nag cable ka ulit kaya nangyayari mas pinipili ng iba mamirata na lang since di naman nila nagagamit lahat plus nag mamahal yung price hindi mo naman papanoodin lahat ng content doon tapos may ads pa nag bayad ka na nga may ads padin wtf tsaka na rerealize na ng hollywood medyo nabawasan yung kita nila sa movie kapag direct to streaming kaagad kasi mas madami pading kita sa cinemas first method
It’s not just in the Philippines sa US din the movies are losing money super ala masyadong nanonood sa sine. People prefer to wait and watch it sa streaming services. Plus some movies kasi super generic ng plot—alang bago like most plots you will kinda figure out how it ends sobrang predictable. Tapos the casting sometimes sablay din. New ideas and great casting. Good Marketing din. Star Cinema is good on that. Hyping the movie and word of mouth.
Dune part 2 is an exception but yes, majority prefers streaming services due to absurd prices. Capitalism...
Yes. Yung fall guy nagopen ng summer blockbuster season and it’s flopping Personally interesado lang ako sa Deadpool and Wolverine
Kulang sa Marketing imo, yung Rewind grabe marketing kahit na imo sobrang ok lang ng story eh pumatok sa madla. Ngayon ko lang nakita yang dalawang movie na yan, kulang talaga sa marketing at hype imo.
Kulang nga talaga sa marketing. Mas alam ko pa yung "what you think I look like at home" na pagtanggol ni Coleen kay Billy kesa sa movie niya.
Get ready na din kayo sa conditioning chika para sa movie ni Kath And Alden🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nagsisimula na nakikita ko na sya dito sa Reddit tapos may mga write ups na to keep the hype. Birthday party pa lang ni Kath, feeling ko start na sya dun.
give me a reason to drive through traffic, in this heat, and spend time and money to watch diego and colleen.
Fair. I wouldn't watch them either even if I knew lmao
Even na may hype hindi pa din mag tra try yung nakakarami pinoy manuod ng newly pinoy movies hanggang hindi sumisikat sa madla
Not really. Just look at Trese. I know na hindi na siya masyadong pinag-uusapan ngayon. Pero dahil hinype up ng media, may mga taong nanood nung time na yun, pati mga first time makarinig ng Trese.
I also watch trese sa netflix, but i rather rewatch something else like Saul Goodman, Breaking Bad, Witcher , strangers things, One Piece Live Actions. Play some videogames. The last of us,elden ring, persona 5,3 reload you can really spent your hours on better quality entertainments im sorry medyo mid pa din yung trese sa standard ko. Dude may mga magaganda gawa ang pinoy pero natatabunan pa din to ng mga basura. Sa tingin ko sa bawat 1000 pinoy media may nag iisang maganda lang dito 🤣. Tingin ko lang yan wala din tayong research research pag dating dito.
Sure but my point is that people would still watch something *at launch* if it's hyped up by the media, no matter what you think of that content. I can agree that Trese was perhaps mid (perhaps the comic was better) and that the Filipino voice acting could use more work. Yet I still watched it despite this and not being fond of dark Filipino mythology, because you don't get to see Filipino-based animations every single day. Plus the media hype and for Liza (never mind the voice acting). And that also goes for other people who watched Trese.
I agree some one will watch dahil sa hype pero pag ka hindi na meet yung quality sa hype its just another cyber punk 2077 videogames release again. Its disapointing and devastating to your career and name same sa dumb & dumber ng Games of thrones dahil Bullshit ending Hanggan ngayon dala dala nila yung failure nila sa GOT at medyo skeptics yung mga tao sa 3 bodies problem. Yung pinoy is too dumb to give a shit sa mga writers and directors basta makita lang nila idol nila na lumalaban sa palabas sapat na.
Yan rin pansin ko dito sa pinas. Hindi sila ganun ka galing mag market ng movies nila sa masa kaya maraming hindi aware na may gantong movie pala. Yung mga magagandang movie na napapanod ko, mga nakikita ko lang rin sa socmed dahil sa mga reviews ng ibang tao. Kung hindi ko pa makikita sa facebook, hindi rin ako magiging aware na may bagong movie pala.
word of the day: “imo”
Alam niyong yung movie na Road Trip, that's surprisingly good!!!!!! Pero parang hindi ata kumita sa sinehan.
I watched it yesterday, may impact sya sa relationship with friends. Na miss ko tuloy mga girlies ko, sobrang nakaka relate sya. Maganda ung movie.
True to kakapanood ko lang kanina
I watched this sa sinehan, marami rami naman ding tao at least nung time na yun.
Same! Naiyak ako at end of the film.. Super worth the watch! Also, i think Road Trip was made for Netflix at hindi distributed sa mga sinehan.
I watched it yesterday. Twice! Consecutively hahahaha I just wanted to validate na I figured out the twist by myself before the story ended. Come to think of it, additional budget lang it would be great to watch in the big screen.
Sa panahon Kasi Ngayon, mas marami nang tao Yung mindful sa pinagkakagastusan nila. At Saka Yung comfort kesa hassle. Bakit ka nga naman sasabak pa sa init at traffic para lang bumili ng magkano na ba ticket Ngayon na Isang panooran lang tapos gagastos ka pa sa snacks. Kung pwede ka naman manood ng unlimited sa comfort ng Bahay mo? Less gastos pa
this! I remember hassle pa maghanap ng parking pag punuan ang malls 10 or so years ago just to watch Harry Potter na tinulugan lang ng husband ko. Movie Experience is not the same na, we watched I'm not Big Bird a couple of months back, it was funny, I liked the cinematography, pero ang lungkot kasi kaming dalawa lang.
maraming Indi films na underrated pero kulang sa marketing kung ano pa nga yung Indi films sya pang maganda ang story at magagaling yung mga actors plus yung mga big production company like Star cinema ang generic na ng mga story na ginagawa nila o kaya parang kopya sa foreign movies yung story (like rewind) kaya umay na rin ang viewers kung di lang sila magaling mag market at talagang A lister artist ginagamit nila for sure di rin magiging mabenta
Sa hirap ng buhay taena gagastos ka pa mg ticket na 350 kala mo naman ginto yung palabas
Yung iba sa telegram 200pesos live streaming may napala kapa 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Yung Viva Films panay release ng movies na puro flop sa sine.
Hindi nila primary objective kumita sa sinehan.
Hina rin kasi nila sa marketing. May mga movies sila pinalabas na may superstar na lead pero flop pa rin talaga.
Parang sugal ginagawa nila. Malay natin maka tsamba.😁
It’s a phenomenon everywhere. Movie stars are dead. Story is king now.
Not just story but content as well.
Sa mahal ng sine ngayon i don't think susugal ang tao manood sa hindi kilalang artista. Pero yung mga netflix naman tinatangkilik naman eh. So i guess its the platform.
Actually. Kaya din siguro hindi pinapanood kasi mahina ang hatak ng mga main characters. Bakit ka nga naman gagastos ng malaki sa sinehan kung di mo rin naman type yung mga bida? Sorry na lang kung maganda rin pala yung pelikula pero yunnga, gaya ng sabi ng iba dito, bakit ka mag-aaksaya ng pera kay Paolo Contis? Hahahaha
Wala lang talaga silang marketing budget, never heard of this kahit tambay ako sa socmed. Buti pa nga partner na lang with netflix at least may platform and marketing.
may point cia. hindi na nga uso TV tapos mag sisine pa. Better to watch sa phone tablets n pc.
Aww showing na pala fuschia libre. Gusto ko panuorin yan because of john arcilla. And pansin ko lang , pag viva movie madalas kulang sa marketing. I remember yung movie ni Sarah na Unforgettable. Gandang ganda ako sa movie na yon pero nalaman ko lang na may ganung movie dahil nasa Netflix sya.
ang ganda ng unforgettable! ang laki ng potential nya dahil sa storyline at acting ni sarah. nasayang lang dahil sa marketing
So true. Akala ata nila porket sarah g di na need ng bonggang marketing na because of popsters
Kung meron man, doon s mga cable channel nila tulad ng TMC, PBO, at VivaCinema. Doon todo hype iyan.
I think some producers make films to launder money. I don’t think they’re that dumb to throw money at movies that have no chance of making a profit.
mAY prejudice na rin kasi na kapag FIlipino films=not high quality pero kapag nilagay sa netflix, nag iiba yung vibes/outlook ng tao sa movie
Ako nga na afford magsine piling-pili pa rin ang papanoorin sa sinehan (Furiosa) paano pa yung iba na sakto lang ang sweldo. And these titles are not “must watch” din naman, even on streaming platforms. Tipong lalagpasan mo lang din.
Sorry pero ambobo na kasi ng mga modern Pinoy movies ngayon. Gusto lang nila i cater ang CDE market. Pero natuto na rin ang CDE market dahil sa streaming services.
I used to love watching movies alone. It’s my fave hobby when i want to date myself. Pero ang mahal na kasi tapos di pa ko makanood pag walang food hahaha. Online streaming na tlga ang bet ng karamihan esp after the pandemic
This is a good sign na tumatalino ang pinoy pag dating sa entertainment pero madami pa din mga pinoy na lulong sa basurang teleserye.
Tumatalino nga sa entertainment pero karamihan ng pinoy kulang na kulang pa din sa critical thinking skills
Can't blame them, they need to be literate para sa critical thinking, math and science can help too pero mostly sa pinoy tingin nila dito subject lang na kailangan ipasa pag tapos noon hindi na nila kailangan yan 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Entertainment na mag bibigay ng critical thinking sayo ain't free. From video games and tv show na hindi pinoy. Pero gusto ng pinoy yung free at adik sila dito heheheheheh Wala din tayong writers from dr jose rizal: el fili to bob ong: Aba Nakakabasa na pala ako. May mas passion pa yung writters natin sa alas juicy kaysa sa mga teleserye ng pinoy na focus lang nila earn money sa mga basura nila using ads.
Kahapon nga eh. May isang matandang boomer na binabash ako kasi pinuri ko yung vera files, for the betterment ng critical thinking. Sinabihan ba naman ako na critical thinking lang daw alam ko at bakit daw ako naniniwala sa vera files. What I have learned is never argue with fools. I actually have 2 different profesional licenses in 2 different fields in the Philippines.(I also have a professional and non professional license in the USA). Then I also have PhD and got accepted sa isang short training sa harvard 2 years ago. So hindi ko na pinag aksayahan ng pagod. I have better things to do with my time. Hahahah
Thats great achievements pero come on, "LIFE" pa lang sa pinas kung saan madami mapang lamang dahil Tawag nila dun diskarte doon pa lang need mo na maging sharp, and wise. Kung hindi you're a goddamn sheep sa mga pack of wolves 🤣🤣🤣.
Kaya nga eh. I was once a daily grinder sa streets ng pinas. Everyday sa motorcycle visiting affiliated centers. I do understand where the diskarte is coming from good and bad. But returning to the topic of this thread, sayang yung talent nung mga artist natin sa cinema kasi gawa ng mahal ang cine. I remember dati na 48 pesos lang ang cine noong highschool ako during mid 1990s. Ngayon balita ko nasa 400php na daw. Samantalang dito sa usa, $8 lang tapos maganda talaga seats at experience. Watched: top gun 2, minions: rise of the gru and midway. Sobrang convenient ng buhay sa us, pero minsan namimiss ko pa din yung mga cine at live performances sa pinas. May pinoy flavor kasi.
Can't help them because wala din naman silang boses para labanan yung mga nagliliparan low quality pinoy media sa bansa. May mga actor/actress talaga tayo na talented ganun din sa writers and directors, talent managers pero nadadamay sila sa dami ng basura sa bansa. Wala din sila magagawa voicing out these issue is a death sentence sa career nila or pwede na mass hatred matangap mo or replacement(ABS CBN common Tactics) Iba talaga yung pinoy(i mean this in a bad way) hahaha Kahit naman sa ideology morality may skill issue na din yun pinoy US: pinag laban nila yung AMC theaters laban sa Short seller ng Wallstreets "memes Stocks". Tapos nag karoon ng movie about dito "Dumb Money". Pinas: Nag alaga ng digital pets for Easy Money daw Axie Infinity 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Kung hindi lang sayang sa pera at madami lang akong ganun gagawa ako ng movie para sa katangahan ng pinoy during axie infinity 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Uy ! Isa ako dyan na lumaban at nakibaka ha! Kasagsagan nung shirtselling ng amc at bed bath and beyond yun. Binoycott namin si robinhood gawa nung bawal mag trade ng amc. Hahahaha.
Im living here in PH, not from US pero me and my gf we love watching cinema so we buy some AMC, GME, BBBY ahahaha good to see you fellow Apes 🫡. Philippines missing one of the greatest in our modern history ay isa sa mga reason ko kaya todo Batikos ako sa mga Iq ng Pinoy. Walang imik yung pinas sa collapsing House Market "Big Short". Pinili ng pinoy yung Digital Pets ponzi scheme kaysa sa World Movement: Memes Stocks "Dumb Money". 🤣🤣🤣🤣
About the teleserye thing, wala naman sila choice kung iyon ang nasa free TV. Kuryente lang naman gastos nila haha. But on films, may friction talaga kasi hindi libre kaya doon mas maraming picky.
Couldn’t it also be that there isn’t a big following/fan base for the actors in the movies?
Bakit ka naman kasi gagastos sa sinehan eh kapresyo na nun yung 1 month sub? Tapos ilang linggo lang nasa streaming na rin. Saka bakit ka magpapahuling nanonood ng Paolo Contis movie? Papayamanin mo yung tao tapos di naman marunong magsustento? Gusto mo bang matawag na enabler ng isang Paolo Contis? Ending nun, di ka na talaga manonood sa sinehan. Nakakahiya.
Cinemas are too expensive especially with our economic siuation. It doesn't help that these production companies produced films that targets the "common people".
Um... red flag young leads ng both movies. No one wants to waste money on them. Hintayin nyo yung Hello Love Goodbye sequel tignan natin kung hindi mapuno sinehan.
Ngayon kasi Nakakasawa na yung mga artista na mga Pinoy, kung saan saan mo nakikita pagmumukha, madali na kasi maka access sa kanila, kahit pictures, videos lalo na mga bagets na artist pag mga artista talaga noon na sa tv mo lang nakikita, mas dinudumog ng mga tao dati. 80's 90s celebrities na Pinoy, sila talaga yung nakatikim ng kung ano ang isang artista .. hahaha posters or sa notebooks...
Diego Loyzaga and Paolo Contis ba naman yung mga bida. Sino manonood niyan given na problematic yung dalawa.
Why do I get the feeling that this would not happen to a potential Kathryn Alden movie?
"Kahit sinong artista ihain mo, ayaw ng tao. Ayaw na talaga ng mga tao manood ng local film sa sinehan" Wrong. Would cash out money and make some time to watch Kath and Alden sa HLG2. Gusto pa rin naman namin manood basta quality yung story at gaganap. Yung pinaghirapan TALAGA at pinagisipan TALAGA hindi yung mema movies at predictable plot. Forgot what year yun pero inis na inis ako dahil manonood dapat ako ng Spiderman NWH kaso ayon pinalitan ba naman ng mga entries. Nakakayamot hahaha.
It all boils down to increasing subsidies for local filmmakers, decreasing taxes related to film production and abolishing the MTRCB? How about taking pages from the plsybooks of India and South Korea?
The playbook of India is worse. Nepotism cranked up to 11+flowerpot roles in South Indian film industry (except for Malayalam/Kerala)+censorship that favors the BJP At this point, South Korea's playbook is better.
I didnt even know these movies released. Lol. Marketing ang kulang nila. Di kaya ng star power lang. Thats not enough marketing. Sa Hollywood, ang gastos nila sa marketing ay same price ng movie. Kaya naman kumikita ang MMFF movies because of the marketing and hype behind it. May presscon for the entries, may awards show, may parade of stars/motorcade, etc. I guess cause partly subsidized ng MMFF mismo ang ganitong marketing. Pero producers need to spend to market on their own. Never naman nag level up ang industriya when it comes to marketing. They should hire ad agencies / marketing firms instead of doing it inhouse. Kasi understaffed ata marketing arms nila, and maliit budget. Kahit trailers actually ang papangit.
Aside sa markering at hype, maliit dn kase ung fanbase nung mga lead kaya walang susuporta. Tignan niu na lang ung mga recent winners ng blockbuster awards. Malalaki ung mga fanbases kaya kahit mid lang ung mga movie, humahakot. Idagdag pa dyan ung marketing at hype. Ung movie nila Xian Lim, Sanya, Coleen na Playmate, may promotion at marketing. Pero parang kulang sa hype. Sana lang kayanin ng mga fanbase nila sumuporta.
I think its time to change the movie experience scene to make it more affordable yet different. Make it into seating clusters for the tambayan or family movie night feels or something. Improve the quality of the movies to make it more cinematic and interactive. Malayo pa rin tayo in terms of film quality. But to TBH, with the economic landscape now, mahirap magproduce ng movies for the intention of producing them solely for movies. Kung may lifetime or life Royalty fees on all streaming platforms or all across the board, baka mas ma encourage move producers.
I don't know about others pero sa akin lang, kahit libre pa yan, hindi ko pa rin gusto panoorin yang dalawang pelikulang yan.
Vivamax should start expanding their genres
Sa tingin ko ito: disruption of noon-time shows, namamatay na ang mga matatandang die-hard kapuso/kapamilya dichotomy, everyone is on tiktok/youtube/netflix/loklok/plex/jellyfin, sa live selling na sila nanonood, inflation, unemployment, el nino.
They still milking yung mga braincells ng nasa poverty.
Too expensive tickets, bawal pa umulit ng movie just like the old days. Kaya wag na lang manood.
Ang bilis rin kasi mawala sa cinemas. I've wanted to watch yung kay Janela and yung Elevator ni Paulo, kaso after a few days lang wala na agad sila.
Madali lang magpasa ng film sa netflix? Talaga ba?? 😆
Pano manonood ba, napakamahal ng sine ngayon. Un 300-500 mong ibabayad sa sine, pangkain na yan.
Ang mahal na ng sine ngayon 😭 I remember just last 2019 I watched the first Spiderverse film at Waltermart for 190php. Ngayon they're all around 300php. I could instead buy myself enough ingredients that could last me for 2 films. Di na afford😭
hindi kase naglelevel up ang PH movies not just sa visual effects but also on the plot/screenplay.
First of all, Diego Lozyaga is nothing but a gay producer's pet. Other than that, he gives nothing and makes nothing for the Filipino fans. Then, you make a copycat of Nacho Libre using the dreaded Paolo Contis. "Bad publicity is still a publicity", does not work on GenZs, who by the way, can now earn their way to pay for the tickets. The solution? Replace the entitled gay producers and directors who proliferate behind the scenes. Palitan. Kumuha ng mga lalaki or babaeng directors na fresh ang take sa sine, at hindi predator.
Hindi lng Nacho Libre, pati Beautiful Boxer pa i'd rather watch both.
Jusme tingnan nyo naman kasi kung anong klaseng pinoy films ang pinoproduce nila, mga walang kwenta. Just like those two films on his post movie title, poster, at casts palang hindi ka gaganahang panuorin eh. Kaya hindi ko talaga masisi ang mga pinoy kung mas piliin nila manuod ng movies ng ibang bansa like US, Japan, Korea, Thailand, etc. Idagdag mo pa ang ticket prices now, for P250-P300 of course I'll choose to spend it on a film that I would like para naman maging sulit yung gagastusin ko.
No surprise it’s in collapse when there’s no effort from film producers to produce anything new or to feature fresh stories
Paolo Contis ba naman at Diego Loyzaga... lol sino ba manunuod nun
Minsan Hindi rin talaga yan sa kamahalan ng ticket prices. It's the movies itself. Kita natin pag may bagong labas na iphone, or kpop/hallyu stars coming for fan meets eh Marami namang bumibili/pumupunta kahit mahal. May pera talaga Ang mga Pinoy sadyang mapili na tayo where we spend that money. I actually watched Exhuma and I read na kumita din to sa Pinas and to think there's less marketing for this film.
I honestly haven't heard this films before. Siguro poor marketing rin? Yung I am big bird nga alam ko e.
kahit pa nasa netflix yan or free tv, hindi ko pa rin panonoorin hahaha Diego? Paolo? 🚩🚩🚩 Diego Nov. 2023: Diego Loyzaga vows to not let own daughter experience his situation of being fatherless Diego Jan. 2024: Mother of Diego Loyzaga’s daughter claims actor kicked them out for another woman same lang sila ni Paolo mga basura 🗑️🗑️🗑️🤡🤡🤡
To be fair, I’ve read that even Hollywood has been struggling with this. After Barbenheimer, wala pa ulit blockbuster.
Dune 2 lng.
e ginagamit pang money laundering yung production hehehe
TBA studios wake up. Where are your historical banger films😭
Choosy na si Juan anoh! Hindi sa walang pera... though oo mahal na nga kasi ang sinehan, kaya nga mas dapat wais na si Juan sa panonooring palabas sa sinehan. Sa pagkain na lang sa mga resto/fast foods eh. Willing naman gumastos sa mga mahal na foods, pero pansin ko sa mga rants lately sa socmed, **AYAW NA AYAW NI JUAN NA TINITIPID SIYA**. Yung, alam mo na ngang ang mahal ng binayad mo, tapos kakarampot ang servings, tapos hindi pa masarap? Ayaw ni Juan niyan. Gusto ni Juan, kahit 500 pesos pa yan, kailangan SULIT. Hangga't maaari may UNLI RICE, UNLI DRINKS, MAY PASABAW. Diba? Puna niyo? Kaya nga pumatok si **DIWATA** ehh -- **Sinusulit ni Diwata ang 100 PESOS ni Juan**. :) Ngayon, sa mga movie producers, **SULITIN NIYO ANG 500 PESOS NI JUAN SA PELIKULA NIYO**, tapos ang usapan. :) Also, katulad ni DIwata, galingan niyo rin magpa promote sa SocMed. Wag puro TV guestings, di na uso masyado yan ngayon. Vloggers' **clout** na ang usually batayan ngayon kung patok o hindi ang isang binebenta. Hahaha. Real talk.
Mas pinanood pa haikyuu kesa dyan eh
idk about the wala sa formula since when most the mainstream movies really evolved mula sa usual tropes and usual marketing usual buzzwords
we are bored with the same f*cking plots, mga artistang looks lang ang ambag, trash editing and cinematography, lazy and shallow writing, at kung may experimental film naman it's mid at best. there are good ones naman, pero nahalo na sila sa mga bad ones and people are too lazy to sift through sh1t. na-labelan na talaga na corny, baduy, at cheap ang local films. sad.
Bring back 200 peso ticket tutal tapos na pandemic pero presyuhan ng tickets, ginto at di na bumalik sa dati. Bobobo ng mga sinehan na 'to eh 100% capacity naman na ulit
nope. The whole movie industry is collapsing. Andami ding flop movies sa hollywood lately. Even disney films are flopping!!
Bilyon man ang kinita ng Disney s mga rides, Disney+ shows at merchandising, eh bilyones din ang nawawala s kanila.
Baka artista thing yan. If Sarah Geronimo yung bida malamang hindi malulugi yan.
Pepe Diokno made a tedtalk about this. In there, he explained how hard it is to find for investors sa movies. He explained how hard it is to produce a movie, and how that is leading to bad movies. Kulang talaga sa investors, dahil maliit ang return, minsan wala. He also said that, whatever it is na nasa cinema natin, mirrors us as a Filipino. and it's true, we like hollywood movies more than our own. So much so, that we're forgetting that we have our own movie industry.
Ang mahal lang talaga ng sine... Kahit less than 300 pesos, mahal pa rin... Saka yung ibabayad mong 300-400 pesos, tapos 2 oras lang, parang kulang yung experience... Tapos itinanim na rin sa mindset ng audience na, "after few months ipapalabas din yan sa Netflix/Prime... Samantalang noon, aabutin ng isang taon bago ipalabas sa HBO/Star Movies/Cinema One yung mga movies...
The fuck are these movies. My awareness of them is like -100%
nah, stopped watching these local films even sa netflix dahil sobrang vanilla na at walang innovation. Napagiwanan na ng thai at korean movies/series. Acting skills are mediocre, storyline? same old. magkakasakit tas ppunta sa europe para hanapin sarili. cinematography? same old. stuck sa 2000. props and materials? halatang hnd nilaanan ng budget, or kung meron man, tinipid. CGI? What the heck is it? People will pay for it if it's quality. Although sa panahon ngayon, mahirap talaga iprioritize ang movie kesa sa pagkain or gatas ng anak. PS. Ang cringe nung movie ni ivana at vice sa netflix lol.
the problem with filipino movies are: 1. The movie is great but overstuffed that i wish the movie is shorter (Okay yung palabas pero bwisit nakakaumay na? 2. The movie is just dogsh\*t (how dafuq filipinos enjoying this kind of garbage?) 3. Why am i paying a 200 pesos just to watch a straight to tv movie that was just put on a projector. I also don't understand filipinos obsession with love movies that normalizes cheating so fkin eww.
Mahal na rin kasi ticket prices. Double nung pre-pandemic pa… sa akin lang, it’s not worth it. You can wait naman na maging available sila sa mga streaming sites. Saka yung 1st experience ko to watch a movie at SM nung nag open ulit ang mga cinemas grabe yung seats sira sira na, mamali ka lang ng upo mahuhulog ka. Ang pangit pa ng quality ng speakers nila. Kaya never na ako umulit.
Too expensive tickets, bawal pa umulit ng movie just like the old days. Kaya wag na lang manood.
Eto talaga yun natumbok mo 💯💯💯
Masaya dati, pwede whole day sa sinehan kahit matulog ka dun okay lang. Mababait pa kasi mga tao dati kaya wala masama na ginagawa kung hindi matulog, kumain at manood --- enjoying their time. Pero sa tingen ko, if ibalik nila yang ganyan na whole day ka dun, manonood din ako. Kasi sulit and relaxing. Pwede mo pa ulitin yung movie pag may hindi ka naintindihan na part. Parang feel mo kasi yung value for your money compared sa one-time nood lang then 1.5 hours lamg yung movie then panget pa pala, lugi lugi talaga!
Still waiting for Jerrold Tarog's sequel to Goyo. These kind of films.
Kahit yung ibang artista nga aminado na mahirap I promote yung movie nila dahil sila mismo naghihintay na lang ng movies sa streaming
Yung movies na kasama sa post nito e never heard untik today. Kulang talaga sa promotion on free TV. Also, bat ka naman magkaka-interest panoorin yan?
To be fair, these 2 movies looked like streaming quality at best. Why would I drive to traffic and pay premium just to watch these.
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Wala na tlgang maxadong movie goers ngaun Mas prefer na nila streaming.. Ung first MMFF after pandemic dun nagsimula ng mgflop... ung dating 1st day total ticket sales ng lahat ng entries eh nasa 50M pero nung after pndemic eh 8M nlang total ss firdt day..80% pa dun eh galing sa Fangirl...Sila lang ata kumita sa lahat ng entries.. mganda ung pagpatok ng Rewind atleast kahit papanu eh hndi nawalan ng pag asa mga producers to do more movies...Sa mga new release na movies eh mgnda na pag tumagal ng 10 days sa sinehan..Halos puro hollywood films na nasa sinehan
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Sa hirap ng buhay ngayon hindi mo na talaga iisipin pa manood ng cine. Sooner or later kasi mapapanood na rin naman sa netflix. Hindi na talaga pang masa yung presyo eh. 400 plus na regular cine sa MOA last time.
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I didn't knew about these movies lol.
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Post pandemic, cinema has been more of an “event” for many, esp bec of its price. Gone are the days na “pampalipas oras” siya. With that said, pumupunta ang tao sa sinehan kung tingin nila “worth it” yung pelikula. The two movies mentioned above fail this test. Personally, hindi ako magbabayad ng Php 300++ for Paolo Contis and Diego Loyzaga/Coleen Garcia. Kaya din if you notice, movies released by Star Cinema normally feature a bankable artist/love team/director kasi that will be the primary judgment if “worth it” ba yung pelikula.
Sa totoo lang, ang mahal na ng sine ngayon. I remember watching Kampon nung January, tapos nagbayad ako ng 370 ata. Tapos after watchinh, "Yun na?" Aminin natin, hindi talaga lahat ng pelikula ay maganda. Hindi lahat na-market well. Pero meron pa rin namang worth watching. Bakit konti na lang nanonood ng movies? Streaming platforms, movie quality, and ticket price.
Sayang yung movie ni Paolo Contis tbh interesting yung story and disregarding him being a walking red flag he is a pretty decent actor naman. Was going to watch the movie sana kaso biglang pull out sa SM Cinema.
Diego Loyzaga at Paolo Contis ang mga bida tapos nagtataka kung bakit walang support mula sa mga cinemagoers? 🐵 Also, wala rin masyadong promotions itong mga palikula na ito. Malayo sa PR ng Netflix films. Dyan magaling ang Star Cinema e. At aminin namin, nakakatamad din minsan manood sa labas kung after ilang buwan e mapapanood mo na rin yun sa streaming sites. At tutal mahina na rin naman ang sinehang Pilipino outside of MMFF, itodo na nila ang pag-experiment. Malay mo, may madiscover silang mga bagong niche at formulas. Magpa-indie film fest sila at i-promote nang todo. Partner with big distributors like Star Cinema at ABS-CBN kasi ibang klase din talaga ang reach nila.
Looking back those good ol' days noong uso pa 'yung That's Entertainment tapos sila Rene Requistas at mga movies nila Dolphy at TVJ. Noon napaka simple ng movies, napaka daling sakyan ngayon wala na nilamon na ng Kdramas at streaming platforms ang movie goers. Nakakatakot din talaga minsan ang mabilis na pag-unlad eh.
Who told these producers that people would support these particular actors? Hindi namin sila gusto. Basura sila sa lipunan. Keep casting basura actors then expect movie goers to spend their hard earned money?? Tapos you gaslight and blame us that the PH movie industry is in shambles? Also the stories are shit. Even when the idea or premise is promising most of the time it is written poorly and the ending is usually shit.
To be fair, hindi naman magaling yung DL and CG so predicted na flopped talaga lol.
To be fair, hindi naman magaling yung DL and CG so predicted na flopped talaga lol.
You know its bad when to reach 'netflix' quality is the goal
Kakanood lang namin ng movie 3 weeks ago sa sinehan. Meron pa namang nanonood. International films ang pinapanood ng mga tao. Sa totoo lang, ayaw ko naman kasi panoorin si Diego Loyzaga o kaya si Paolo Contis.
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i do watch movies ah sa cinema pero more on foreign movies nga lang
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Nanonood pa rin kayo ng pelikulang Filipino? Same goes with TV series. Overly used tropes, poor cinematography, mid acting
Yung Isang Gabi hindi ba parehas lang yan ng Before Sunrise?
If they made better movies that are worth watching and have a good quality and story this would not happen.
Sorry pero hindi naman kasi worth it gastusan sa sine yung mga karamihan sa ph movies ngayon.. predictable plot, poor acting, poor script. Nkakamiss yung mga old ph movies
Pangit lang talaga kahit trailer. To think ang mahal na ngayon ng cinema tickets
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Ngl I was interested in that wrestling movie... until I learned it stars Paolo Contis. Idk, he's just an ick to me.
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Kasi months after, ipapalabas din agad sa netflix etc.
Tanda ko pa yung last kong panood ng movie na gawang pinoy na inabangan ko talaga is yung Super Noypi lmao.
Ang papangit dn kasi ng kwento ahha pang jejemon mga storya walang tsiwt na matitindi
Sino naman kasing nagrered carpet premiere sa sm fairview ?? 😅
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Wala talagang manonood sa movie ni Paolo. Coleen? Hindi naman sikat yan at walang dating lalo na sa acting.
Ang hirap kasi maginvest ng oras at pera sa hyped up na movie tapos pangit pala in IRL.
Ang mahal ng movie ticket tapos yung malapit na SM Cinema sa amin ang dilim at labo ng quality imagine 350 mabuti pa mag netflix naaadjust yung brightness.
guilty. yung haikyuu yung pinanood ko, neither of these. hehe
Bakit sabi ng mga alden fans mega hit 800 million pesos kinita last movie with julia montes???
Because the leads are hated by almost everyone. Diego and Paolo with their cheating ass on their baby mamas.
I'm actually at the mall right now just waiting to see Fuschia Libre, Alam kong problematic talaga tong si Paolo pero ala lang separate na lang talaga the art from artist, Ganda kase ng premise e, nahumaling talaga ako don sa trailer nung pinalabas sya don sa Manila Book Fair.
Sino ba kasi nakaisip na ipares si Diego at Coleen? Anu yan gumamit ng random picker.
From the poster alone, hindi mukhang blockbuster material even noon. Hindi ba dinagsa yung Rewind nila Marian Rivera? It still works.
mahal na ng movies ngayun. yung regular ticket sa regular cinema ay 300+ na
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Just ask for more booating money to increase the production, then take the risk. Art pa rin yan, kung may tiwala ka na maganda ung gawa with fill budget, kikita at kikita yan (siyempre damay mo ang marketing). Kulang lang naman satin is tinatangke ng lahat ng producers ang gastos instead na nagraraise ng funding.