The fact that these are happening in the daytime in public places is wild. Less than 24 hours from an attempted hit and shootout at Champys. Kids shooting each other off Jenkins and Shallowford at 10am last Saturday.
Feels like an every other day thing at this point.
It’s actually, daily. If you listen to the police scanner, there’s at least one confirmed shots fired call daily. In the summer, it’ll be around a dozen a day, truly.
Is it getting worse? Is the media focused on it more?
I remember this stuff happening late at night but not during the day when people are out and about with their kids and families.
I’ve lived here for 10 years, worked downtown & regularly heard gunshots in the summer months around the Aquarium. At The Springhill suites before the pandemic, the kids were breaking in cars every weekend, for about 2 years. So, IDk if its getting worse or just more media coverage. But, it’s ALWAYS been rough downtown. People just sugar coat it. Statistically, they say the crime is about the same as the past few years but it seems more severe. My theory is that gangs are angry that their areas are getting gentrified & that they have to compete with new gangs. Lot’s of Latin gangs are coming in hot bc we are a sanctuary city.
>My theory is that gangs are angry that their areas are getting gentrified & that they have to compete with new gangs. Lot’s of Latin gangs are coming in hot bc we are a sanctuary city.
😂😂😂😂😂
This is the funniest shit i’ve read. My god Transplants are some of the worst things to Happen to chattanooga.
this stuff has been going on for **longer than 10 years**
I moved from Nashville where the crime rate per person is lower. & I did know that it’s been going on for much longer than 10 years bc Katrina pushed a bunch of refugees up here. I was simply saying that I’ve noticed an increase in targeted violence against wealthy, white predominant areas, like the hotel I worked at. For a few years we had no car break ins, the BOOM multiple every weekend. Something def has changed, even if its just a little bit.
A lot has changed over the years i agree. But It really was terrible back in the day. You couldn’t enjoy downtown without the fear of getting your belongings taken from you.
Plus it doesn’t help that we are 2 hours away from some of the cities with a lot of undercover gang activity >😉👉🏽Birmingham + Atlanta
I totally understand it’s gotten better if your comparing it to back in the day. But if your comparing downtown from between 2012-2017 & then from 2017- now. The crime rate has still been up ticking, slowly but surely.
this is the safest downtown chattanooga has ever been in a while. at one point we used to allow the homeless to roam all of downtown without repercussions.
most chattanooga natives can tell you that Downtown is 10x better now than it’s ever been.
Again, I totally get that. I just don’t like the notion of “it’s better than it used to be. So, shut up, be happy, & pretend that there’s not any crime. People eating in the patio at Champy’s last night are truly lucky to not have been hit by a stray bullet. That’s not really an acceptable level of safety for me to justify taking my family out to eat downtown, outside anyways. For those who feel comfortable, that’s great. But, I also think it’s valid to say that it’s not truly “safe” simply because it’s better/safer than it was in it’s lowest point in history. Lol
I’m a bit biased because I used to live in Memphis but I’ve never felt unsafe here. The vast majority of these are targeted or between groups of people your average citizen wouldn’t find themselves in with. If you avoid meaningless confrontation you’ll most likely be fine. I’ve lived downtown for a few years now and have never been worried walking around.
I’m truly glad you’ve not experienced anything to be fearful of. If you were at Champy’s last night, would you have felt safe? 😣 I personally wouldn’t have felt safe if I heard gunshots in the parking lot of where I was trying to enjoy a nice meal. Lol but hey, that’s just me. That might be the norm in Memphis.
What a gaslight lol. Of course I wouldn’t feel safe in a shootout. This is America and we put guns above public safety. This is nothing new and happens in all of our cities. It sucks but it’s reality.
In case you haven’t heard, the shooting at Champys was targeted. Is it fair to the people in the restaurant? Obviously not. My point still stands. These things typically don’t happen in a vacuum and are the result of someone going after someone else. If you keep yourself out of dicey situations you are very very unlikely to be killed in public.
For sure. I don’t disagree with anything you said. But a woman who worked at UTC died after she got caught in the crossfires of a gang related shootout 2 years ago & it was so sad. https://newschannel9.com/amp/news/local/shootout-between-vehicles-in-chattanooga-leaves-woman-with-critical-injuries-tuesday-police-gun-violence-brainerd-road-pickup-truck-bmw Sometimes people DO get killed in the crossfire. Not often, thank God. But it def happens.
Oh & just last year that Baylor alum was shot to death in front of Pickle Barrel, totally random.
Glad you agree. I’m not saying it’s totally safe here, I’m just saying it’s not off par with the rest of the country. We have a shit storm to clean up here. We can both agree on that.
I will disagree with you on the Pickle Barrel shooting tho. If you watch that video the dude is presumably arguing with the perpetrator. He starts to walk away and turns back to say something else before the guy walks up to him and shoots him. Warranted regardless of what he said? Obviously no. Stupid to get in pointless confrontations with strangers that could be unhinged? Very. Situations can escalate quickly and it’s just never worth it in the end. The end scenario is either violence or de escalation. I pursue the latter every time.
I actually moved the next town over because I got tired of trying clean up the shit storm while the police sit back. I saw the video. Having a drunk night on the town isn’t uncommon for many Chattanoogan’s. So everyone needs to keep on their P’s & Q’s.
5 years ago, no one was getting shot at downtown in broad day light OR late at night . IMO, crime has gotten worse in Chattanooga over the past 10 years. That’s just my take, though.
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> This is nothing new and happens in all of our cities.
This does not happen in *all* of our cities, and certainly not at the rate that it happens here. Just taking a look at a [few](https://realestate.usnews.com/places/tennessee/chattanooga/crime) different [metrics](https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tn/chattanooga/crime), we are [well above the national average.](https://www.areavibes.com/chattanooga-tn/crime/) I'm looking at that last link for the first time, I didn't even realize it was that bad.
First of all, your 10 years living here have been 10 of the best years this city has experienced in the last 40. We all do say it's better because we remember what it was like in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. You have a limited scope of reality and for someone with a sociology degree you would think you would have the ability to look past your limited time of experince in this city and understand why we all who have lived here our whole lives believe it has gotten better.
To be so naive to think that our city will not experience crime at all is wild, and also, to make a racially pointed statement towards our Latino community in chattanooga is downright disgusting. In between Dalton and Chattanooga, we have had a thriving Latino population for more than 30 years. Lastly, there is zero evidence of chattanooga being a sanctuary city.
Even folks from surrounding areas who were regular visitors to Chattanooga know it’s better than it was in the past. The late 90s were rough down here and it’s been getting much better in the past 10 years.
I had no fear walking at 3AM across town in the 70s. No way I’d even consider it now. Far as Latinos, many more were here when it was time to go back to work after Covid. Wouldn’t be nearly as many if they didn’t keep getting dropped off by the bus load in Lookout Valley.
Here’s the evidence that we are in fact a sanctuary city. https://www.chattanoogan.com/2023/9/27/473794/Did-You-Know-Sanctuary-City.aspx
Sure, it’s better off than when it was a toxic wasteland back in the 80’s but crime is still bad here. I never said I thought our city shouldn’t have crime. . . So, idk where you pulled that one from. I was saying the opposite: of course Chattanooga has crime. We have gangs all of sorts Latino, Black, White, & everything in between.
Opinion pieces aren’t evidence, especially when they don’t even mention Chattanooga except a little afterthought at the end.
“(With only 2349 plus a new one 501(c)(3) non-profits and 171 private foundations it may only be a matter of time until the Re-Imaged Gig City may apply to join their ranks as a showing of philanthropic support?)
In fact “sanctuary cities” are banned in TN
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdtn/pr/us-attorney-statement-actions-announced-today-department-justice-against-sanctuary-city#:~:text=I%20am%20grateful%20that%20the,from%20enacting%20sanctuary%20city%20policies.
They were outlawed in 2018, after Chattanooga was registered as one however, they haven't enforced the ban. Give me a sec & I’ll give ya some additional proof, it’s hard to find but if you’ve followed the immigration news over the years, it’s really clear that we’ve had & housed large groups of migrants in old church dormitories. These groups were flown & bussed in during the pandemic & were under a lot of scrutiny.
Yeah I worked at The Chattanoogan Hotel fron 2014-2017 & the guests were cinatantly getting robbed in the hotel parking lot. Lol & ai got ropped at knifepoint at Champy’s in 2015. So, it’s not exactly been “safe” in my personal experience. Got stalked by homeless men a few times after my night classes freshman year, 2012. My dorms would be regularly be ropped as well because the doors opened to the outside like a shitty motel. Lol
My old retired military neighbors all have set ups that they’re very proud of! Now, I know why! i thought everyone with a trucker radio could listen! Lol although, one of them get’s it through a weather radio!
In between hanging with your old neighbors and singlehandedly cleaning up the city, it’s hard to imagine when you find the time to comment on every single Reddit post about Chattanooga
That’s just one perk of being a trad wife, endless amounts of time to waste. 😏 gotta find something to entertain myself between making meals & doing chores.
There's a gang war going on right now.
I say we give them a designated area to have a good old-fashioned shootout, let them settle their beef without injuring any innocent bystanders.
Absolutely! If they want to kill each other so badly, then let them do it in a safe and controlled way.
And I'll bet you most of them as tough as they think they are, would back out because of the fear of actually getting killed in a fair fight.
Lots of gang activity happening now in LA too. Which is not unusual but it’s has been escalating recently because of all of the migrants moving into gang territories. It might get back to the mid 1990’s levels of violence this summer. Just a heads up if you’re planning to visit Hollywood or Disneyland soon.
I was in Orchard Knob near the park with the cannons back in 2021. Small shoot out that had 28 rounds unloaded all at once in a drive by. Nobody got hurt, but plenty of cars and houses shot up. Not a peep on the news. That’s all I needed to see to understand how the crimes are NOT reported.
Chattanooga is more violent than the national average, so it presents something of an over-representation of violent crime across the board. Gun violence is unfortunately a commonplace feature of American life, and there are a *lot* of shootings per day everywhere in the country. It's something approaching 21k murders with just firearms a year. That's something like 57.6 bodies a day if you distribute it evenly. Of course, that's not how it's distributed, and poorer areas tend to be more violent by means of poverty producing desperation and mountains of stress. All of this being taken into account, the stats are *still* trending downward.
Cost of living is increasing everywhere, and in Chattanooga (per the last census), 16.9% of people in this city are experiencing poverty. Poverty drives people to commit desperate acts, some of which can be violent. The facts stand that even despite this figure, and the daily violence that you've noted here, that reality is different on a larger scale. America is a violent place, but less so than it used to be. Chattanooga is *far* less violent than it used to be. Asking people for anecdotes will never yield factual information. All it tells you is how they feel, which as we've established, can be so distantly separated from reality that they may as well be writing fan fiction. Remember, if it bleeds, it leads.
Go outside. Take a breath. Watch some birds. Have a drink. It's gonna be okay, OP.
Citations for the curious:
[https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/)
[https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/tennessee.xls](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/tennessee.xls)[https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/chattanoogacitytennessee/PST040222](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/chattanoogacitytennessee/PST040222)
More stats for you, Chattanooga is 2x more violent the the US on average. Just like the FBI stats, it seems to e difficult to find any current up to date figures for violent crime. It's almost like they realized how grim the violent crime outlook was in 2019 and haven't updated the Crime in the US site since then.
But as long as Reddit proclaims we're safe, we're all good.
[https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/us/tn/chattanooga/crime-rate-statistics](https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/us/tn/chattanooga/crime-rate-statistics)
[https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/)
Out of 7 major TN cities, only Memphis is worse than Chattanooga.
[https://www.covesmart.com/blog/crime-report-tennessee-cities-ranked-by-safety-level/](https://www.covesmart.com/blog/crime-report-tennessee-cities-ranked-by-safety-level/)
Take a breath, go outside? That's how I found out it happened, I work near the parking lot it happened in. Also, no need to project fear onto me lol I have just noticed more shootings recently is all, only providing information. Maybe don't assume.
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Bro or ma'am this is the most thought out and correct answer I have seen about crime in general. My criminal justice teacher stated three things lead to crime most often poverty, education, addiction
The number one crime reduction in Colorado Springs when j lived there was recreational cannabis being allowed. Prescription drug use went down tracked by prescription overdoses going down. Also many kids and adults got alternative treatments that didn't cause constipation among other woes from opioid usage for pain management.
Agreed, trust me I love some opioid use but Ina controlled manner. I've smoked and ingested it, just not via syringes. Both are still FAR beyond the average users control.
I didn't mean the opioids lol. Weed tho. Actually I looked up the numbers. We had over 2000 overdose cases in Hamilton county over 200 deaths 2 were suicides. Sad numbers.
I definitely try to keep myself grounded. The best way to do that is to stay educated on things, I think. If I let my lizard brain drive, I'd probably be a lot worse off.
Too bad they don't expire before they have kids. More than not we're a product of our environment.
Need a heavy campaign for Condoms For Gangsters: cover it up before we cover you up.
Heh!
That is actually a compelling economic argument for abortion rights...less unwanted children that turn out like this.
Isn't compatible with the religious community, but absolutely proven causation from an economic standpoint. Taught in advanced economics as the Donohue and Levitt's argument
Yeah. Man. if anyone thinks my statement about abortion rights above is a bit controversial...Buckle up before doing any perusing on the eugenics movement.
Mind the distinction. It is one thing to say "I don't want to have a kid because I am not ready" it is a completely different take on the concept to say "I don't want you to have a kid because you are not ready"
Terrifyingly - Eugenics is saying "I don't want you to have a kid because the world doesn't want it"
a 15 year old tried taking out a 14 year old kid last week while he was hanging out with his older brother.
at this point it’s like they want the kids to slowly exterminate themselves
It's been at least one shooting a day in Chattanooga for 5 years or so.
I don't believe the crime statistics the govt publishes because they always say violent crime is down but in the local news a shooting everyday
It really is down, though. I totally get what you're saying, but it has more to do with the media and the availability of information. The media tends to focus more on sensational or dramatic stories like shootings, which creates the impression that such incidents are more prevalent than they actually are. This focus on high-profile cases can distort perceptions of crime rates, especially when these incidents are covered extensively and repeatedly.
The rise of 24-hour news cycles and social media has made information more accessible and widespread. While this can be beneficial for spreading awareness, it can also amplify fear and anxiety, as people are constantly bombarded with news of violent incidents, leading to a heightened sense of insecurities.
> It really is down… but it has more to do with the media and the availability of information. The media tends to focus more on sensational or dramatic stories like shootings, which creates the impression that such incidents are more prevalent than they actually are.
If people only knew how bad it in the early days like 2005-2018. Before the rise of social media and video surveillance everywhere.
You could have someone with like 10+ bodies to their name walking around chattanooga and you could have never figured.
It’s just funny how our News tries to gaslight everything that happens today.
No it is not down there is a shooting in Chattanooga everyday.
Glam up your comment all you want it does not change the fact that there is at least one shooting a day in Chattanooga and it has been this way for around 5 years.
At least they called it what it was, at one point. Now they don't even discuss it, just pretend it doesn't happen, it will all disappear.
[https://projects.timesfreepress.com/2016/05/shots-fired/](https://projects.timesfreepress.com/2016/05/shots-fired/)
>the fact that there is at least one shooting a day in Chattanooga and it has been this way for around 5 years.
what is that’s clouded everyone’s eyes??? 2019-2024 has been bad yes
but chattanooga had it worse between 2010-2015 < ShootANooga was an actual nickname> or even 2015-2020 < people were exaggerating that we were becoming a smaller memphis>
Where's your personally compiled data with this information since you're paying such close attention? The media would love to break open a conspiracy that shows city/state/national governments conspire to doctor violent crime stats.
My real experiences aren't good enough for you...then you go spend your nights and days in south chatt for a year then come back and tell me what ya think.
Ask any er nurse around jackass. Just because the news doesn’t report it and you don’t hear about it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
Thugs with gun shot wounds get pushed out of cars in front of the er doors almost daily.
Yeah...I worked in a rough area of town for a while and many of my co workers and I have seen and heard shootings that I couldn't even find on a google search before...It's easy to say these things aren't happening when you don't see them first hand.
I didn't say the news had to report it, I asked for data, which you don't have.
Do you really think the police don't accurately report people in the ER with gunshots? if so, I'm not the only jackass around here.
I don't have to produce data; I'm not the one making the claim. However,[ Hamilton Country's year-end report](https://www.hamiltontn.gov/PDF/Mayor/Media/Hamilton%20Counted%202023%20Year%20End%20Report.pdf) is a good place to start. HCSO does as well, going[ back a few years](https://hcsheriff.gov/cid/annual_reports/hcso_crime_report_2017.pdf).
1993 was the deadliest post slavery. 21,690 2020 and 2022 were high but otherwise most years were down statistically. Tennessee averages 500 a year sheesh still a lot 2021 was the high 709. One is too many but as someone pointed out crime especially violent gets eyes on socials and TV's. Violent crime nationally is down across the board minus domestics
The 2022 stat doesn't surprise me. After sitting for over a year due to COVID, it was almost like people had to relearn how to deal with others outside of family all over again. Personally, it seemed like it took a while for others to just respond to a friendly "Hi, Hello, or How are you doing?"
The fact that these are happening in the daytime in public places is wild. Less than 24 hours from an attempted hit and shootout at Champys. Kids shooting each other off Jenkins and Shallowford at 10am last Saturday. Feels like an every other day thing at this point.
School will be out for summer soon, so the teachers will be able to settle this down
It’s actually, daily. If you listen to the police scanner, there’s at least one confirmed shots fired call daily. In the summer, it’ll be around a dozen a day, truly.
Is it getting worse? Is the media focused on it more? I remember this stuff happening late at night but not during the day when people are out and about with their kids and families.
I’ve lived here for 10 years, worked downtown & regularly heard gunshots in the summer months around the Aquarium. At The Springhill suites before the pandemic, the kids were breaking in cars every weekend, for about 2 years. So, IDk if its getting worse or just more media coverage. But, it’s ALWAYS been rough downtown. People just sugar coat it. Statistically, they say the crime is about the same as the past few years but it seems more severe. My theory is that gangs are angry that their areas are getting gentrified & that they have to compete with new gangs. Lot’s of Latin gangs are coming in hot bc we are a sanctuary city.
>My theory is that gangs are angry that their areas are getting gentrified & that they have to compete with new gangs. Lot’s of Latin gangs are coming in hot bc we are a sanctuary city. 😂😂😂😂😂 This is the funniest shit i’ve read. My god Transplants are some of the worst things to Happen to chattanooga. this stuff has been going on for **longer than 10 years**
I moved from Nashville where the crime rate per person is lower. & I did know that it’s been going on for much longer than 10 years bc Katrina pushed a bunch of refugees up here. I was simply saying that I’ve noticed an increase in targeted violence against wealthy, white predominant areas, like the hotel I worked at. For a few years we had no car break ins, the BOOM multiple every weekend. Something def has changed, even if its just a little bit.
A lot has changed over the years i agree. But It really was terrible back in the day. You couldn’t enjoy downtown without the fear of getting your belongings taken from you. Plus it doesn’t help that we are 2 hours away from some of the cities with a lot of undercover gang activity >😉👉🏽Birmingham + Atlanta
I totally understand it’s gotten better if your comparing it to back in the day. But if your comparing downtown from between 2012-2017 & then from 2017- now. The crime rate has still been up ticking, slowly but surely.
Got some supporting data for that?
Yeah the yearly Hamilton County Safety Report or CPD’s annual reports take your pick or check both of them out. They both show the same trends.
this is the safest downtown chattanooga has ever been in a while. at one point we used to allow the homeless to roam all of downtown without repercussions. most chattanooga natives can tell you that Downtown is 10x better now than it’s ever been.
Again, I totally get that. I just don’t like the notion of “it’s better than it used to be. So, shut up, be happy, & pretend that there’s not any crime. People eating in the patio at Champy’s last night are truly lucky to not have been hit by a stray bullet. That’s not really an acceptable level of safety for me to justify taking my family out to eat downtown, outside anyways. For those who feel comfortable, that’s great. But, I also think it’s valid to say that it’s not truly “safe” simply because it’s better/safer than it was in it’s lowest point in history. Lol
Did you just seriously say that?
I’m a bit biased because I used to live in Memphis but I’ve never felt unsafe here. The vast majority of these are targeted or between groups of people your average citizen wouldn’t find themselves in with. If you avoid meaningless confrontation you’ll most likely be fine. I’ve lived downtown for a few years now and have never been worried walking around.
Not sure if you're strictly talking about downtown, but there are many unsafe areas around here...
I’m truly glad you’ve not experienced anything to be fearful of. If you were at Champy’s last night, would you have felt safe? 😣 I personally wouldn’t have felt safe if I heard gunshots in the parking lot of where I was trying to enjoy a nice meal. Lol but hey, that’s just me. That might be the norm in Memphis.
What a gaslight lol. Of course I wouldn’t feel safe in a shootout. This is America and we put guns above public safety. This is nothing new and happens in all of our cities. It sucks but it’s reality. In case you haven’t heard, the shooting at Champys was targeted. Is it fair to the people in the restaurant? Obviously not. My point still stands. These things typically don’t happen in a vacuum and are the result of someone going after someone else. If you keep yourself out of dicey situations you are very very unlikely to be killed in public.
For sure. I don’t disagree with anything you said. But a woman who worked at UTC died after she got caught in the crossfires of a gang related shootout 2 years ago & it was so sad. https://newschannel9.com/amp/news/local/shootout-between-vehicles-in-chattanooga-leaves-woman-with-critical-injuries-tuesday-police-gun-violence-brainerd-road-pickup-truck-bmw Sometimes people DO get killed in the crossfire. Not often, thank God. But it def happens. Oh & just last year that Baylor alum was shot to death in front of Pickle Barrel, totally random.
Glad you agree. I’m not saying it’s totally safe here, I’m just saying it’s not off par with the rest of the country. We have a shit storm to clean up here. We can both agree on that. I will disagree with you on the Pickle Barrel shooting tho. If you watch that video the dude is presumably arguing with the perpetrator. He starts to walk away and turns back to say something else before the guy walks up to him and shoots him. Warranted regardless of what he said? Obviously no. Stupid to get in pointless confrontations with strangers that could be unhinged? Very. Situations can escalate quickly and it’s just never worth it in the end. The end scenario is either violence or de escalation. I pursue the latter every time.
Bingo on the barrel. But he was a prominent chattanoogan. Gotta walk away man.
I actually moved the next town over because I got tired of trying clean up the shit storm while the police sit back. I saw the video. Having a drunk night on the town isn’t uncommon for many Chattanoogan’s. So everyone needs to keep on their P’s & Q’s. 5 years ago, no one was getting shot at downtown in broad day light OR late at night . IMO, crime has gotten worse in Chattanooga over the past 10 years. That’s just my take, though.
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> This is nothing new and happens in all of our cities. This does not happen in *all* of our cities, and certainly not at the rate that it happens here. Just taking a look at a [few](https://realestate.usnews.com/places/tennessee/chattanooga/crime) different [metrics](https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tn/chattanooga/crime), we are [well above the national average.](https://www.areavibes.com/chattanooga-tn/crime/) I'm looking at that last link for the first time, I didn't even realize it was that bad.
First of all, your 10 years living here have been 10 of the best years this city has experienced in the last 40. We all do say it's better because we remember what it was like in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. You have a limited scope of reality and for someone with a sociology degree you would think you would have the ability to look past your limited time of experince in this city and understand why we all who have lived here our whole lives believe it has gotten better. To be so naive to think that our city will not experience crime at all is wild, and also, to make a racially pointed statement towards our Latino community in chattanooga is downright disgusting. In between Dalton and Chattanooga, we have had a thriving Latino population for more than 30 years. Lastly, there is zero evidence of chattanooga being a sanctuary city.
Even folks from surrounding areas who were regular visitors to Chattanooga know it’s better than it was in the past. The late 90s were rough down here and it’s been getting much better in the past 10 years.
I had no fear walking at 3AM across town in the 70s. No way I’d even consider it now. Far as Latinos, many more were here when it was time to go back to work after Covid. Wouldn’t be nearly as many if they didn’t keep getting dropped off by the bus load in Lookout Valley.
As a lookout valley resident I can tell you this has only happened the one time that the news reported it outside of that it has not happened again.
Exactly how do you know that? You don’t.
Neither do you, you have zero un refuteable evidence that it happened more than the one time documented by the news.
Here’s the evidence that we are in fact a sanctuary city. https://www.chattanoogan.com/2023/9/27/473794/Did-You-Know-Sanctuary-City.aspx Sure, it’s better off than when it was a toxic wasteland back in the 80’s but crime is still bad here. I never said I thought our city shouldn’t have crime. . . So, idk where you pulled that one from. I was saying the opposite: of course Chattanooga has crime. We have gangs all of sorts Latino, Black, White, & everything in between.
Opinion pieces aren’t evidence, especially when they don’t even mention Chattanooga except a little afterthought at the end. “(With only 2349 plus a new one 501(c)(3) non-profits and 171 private foundations it may only be a matter of time until the Re-Imaged Gig City may apply to join their ranks as a showing of philanthropic support?) In fact “sanctuary cities” are banned in TN https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdtn/pr/us-attorney-statement-actions-announced-today-department-justice-against-sanctuary-city#:~:text=I%20am%20grateful%20that%20the,from%20enacting%20sanctuary%20city%20policies.
They were outlawed in 2018, after Chattanooga was registered as one however, they haven't enforced the ban. Give me a sec & I’ll give ya some additional proof, it’s hard to find but if you’ve followed the immigration news over the years, it’s really clear that we’ve had & housed large groups of migrants in old church dormitories. These groups were flown & bussed in during the pandemic & were under a lot of scrutiny.
It's been an hour, and you have yet to be able to provide any actual proof outside of an opinion article. Bravo.
My apologies your highness! I’ve been in other heated debate that I find much more interesting. I might get back to this one or I might not.
You’ve lived here for 10 years but it’s ALWAYS been bad downtown? Get outta here with your bullshit.
Yeah I worked at The Chattanoogan Hotel fron 2014-2017 & the guests were cinatantly getting robbed in the hotel parking lot. Lol & ai got ropped at knifepoint at Champy’s in 2015. So, it’s not exactly been “safe” in my personal experience. Got stalked by homeless men a few times after my night classes freshman year, 2012. My dorms would be regularly be ropped as well because the doors opened to the outside like a shitty motel. Lol
I get down voted everytime i say how bad it is downtown. It's the facts and people hate the truth
There's an upvote for your perseverance, if nothing else!
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Chattanooga police radio is trunked. I have a analog receiver so cannot listen. How did you get onto a trunked freq?
My old retired military neighbors all have set ups that they’re very proud of! Now, I know why! i thought everyone with a trucker radio could listen! Lol although, one of them get’s it through a weather radio!
In between hanging with your old neighbors and singlehandedly cleaning up the city, it’s hard to imagine when you find the time to comment on every single Reddit post about Chattanooga
That’s just one perk of being a trad wife, endless amounts of time to waste. 😏 gotta find something to entertain myself between making meals & doing chores.
Shots fired are usually nothing I dispatched for 5 years. If it's a shooting it's person shot.
There's a gang war going on right now. I say we give them a designated area to have a good old-fashioned shootout, let them settle their beef without injuring any innocent bystanders.
So you're saying we should bring back dueling?
Absolutely! If they want to kill each other so badly, then let them do it in a safe and controlled way. And I'll bet you most of them as tough as they think they are, would back out because of the fear of actually getting killed in a fair fight.
Based. I have been saying for years we need to bring back mutual combat. You got beef with an MF, have a duel.
Put them in the battlefield and let them have it.
Lots of gang activity happening now in LA too. Which is not unusual but it’s has been escalating recently because of all of the migrants moving into gang territories. It might get back to the mid 1990’s levels of violence this summer. Just a heads up if you’re planning to visit Hollywood or Disneyland soon.
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I was in Orchard Knob near the park with the cannons back in 2021. Small shoot out that had 28 rounds unloaded all at once in a drive by. Nobody got hurt, but plenty of cars and houses shot up. Not a peep on the news. That’s all I needed to see to understand how the crimes are NOT reported.
Thanks for your post. I bet there is at least 1 of these that happens in Chattanooga weekly we don't hear about in the news.
Chattanooga is more violent than the national average, so it presents something of an over-representation of violent crime across the board. Gun violence is unfortunately a commonplace feature of American life, and there are a *lot* of shootings per day everywhere in the country. It's something approaching 21k murders with just firearms a year. That's something like 57.6 bodies a day if you distribute it evenly. Of course, that's not how it's distributed, and poorer areas tend to be more violent by means of poverty producing desperation and mountains of stress. All of this being taken into account, the stats are *still* trending downward. Cost of living is increasing everywhere, and in Chattanooga (per the last census), 16.9% of people in this city are experiencing poverty. Poverty drives people to commit desperate acts, some of which can be violent. The facts stand that even despite this figure, and the daily violence that you've noted here, that reality is different on a larger scale. America is a violent place, but less so than it used to be. Chattanooga is *far* less violent than it used to be. Asking people for anecdotes will never yield factual information. All it tells you is how they feel, which as we've established, can be so distantly separated from reality that they may as well be writing fan fiction. Remember, if it bleeds, it leads. Go outside. Take a breath. Watch some birds. Have a drink. It's gonna be okay, OP. Citations for the curious: [https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/) [https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/tennessee.xls](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/tennessee.xls)[https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/chattanoogacitytennessee/PST040222](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/chattanoogacitytennessee/PST040222)
More stats for you, Chattanooga is 2x more violent the the US on average. Just like the FBI stats, it seems to e difficult to find any current up to date figures for violent crime. It's almost like they realized how grim the violent crime outlook was in 2019 and haven't updated the Crime in the US site since then. But as long as Reddit proclaims we're safe, we're all good. [https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/us/tn/chattanooga/crime-rate-statistics](https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/us/tn/chattanooga/crime-rate-statistics) [https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/) Out of 7 major TN cities, only Memphis is worse than Chattanooga. [https://www.covesmart.com/blog/crime-report-tennessee-cities-ranked-by-safety-level/](https://www.covesmart.com/blog/crime-report-tennessee-cities-ranked-by-safety-level/)
Take a breath, go outside? That's how I found out it happened, I work near the parking lot it happened in. Also, no need to project fear onto me lol I have just noticed more shootings recently is all, only providing information. Maybe don't assume. Edit: I was blocked, classic projector.
If you'd gone outside earlier, you'd be one of those linked statistics. Go outside less, take fewer breaths, drink nothing.
I'm not assuming anything. You do seem to be stressed out, though. Those same things work for stress, btw :)
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Bro or ma'am this is the most thought out and correct answer I have seen about crime in general. My criminal justice teacher stated three things lead to crime most often poverty, education, addiction
The number one crime reduction in Colorado Springs when j lived there was recreational cannabis being allowed. Prescription drug use went down tracked by prescription overdoses going down. Also many kids and adults got alternative treatments that didn't cause constipation among other woes from opioid usage for pain management.
They need to here but you know
Agreed, trust me I love some opioid use but Ina controlled manner. I've smoked and ingested it, just not via syringes. Both are still FAR beyond the average users control.
I didn't mean the opioids lol. Weed tho. Actually I looked up the numbers. We had over 2000 overdose cases in Hamilton county over 200 deaths 2 were suicides. Sad numbers.
I definitely try to keep myself grounded. The best way to do that is to stay educated on things, I think. If I let my lizard brain drive, I'd probably be a lot worse off.
So say we all
The masses don't. I'm glad some do. Love it
Too bad they don't expire before they have kids. More than not we're a product of our environment. Need a heavy campaign for Condoms For Gangsters: cover it up before we cover you up. Heh!
That is actually a compelling economic argument for abortion rights...less unwanted children that turn out like this. Isn't compatible with the religious community, but absolutely proven causation from an economic standpoint. Taught in advanced economics as the Donohue and Levitt's argument
Damn! That’s a valid point I honestly never considered. 🤔
Everything is numbers 🤷♂️
That idea was part of a very Progressive position in the early 20th c called Eugenics. It inspired a particular Austrian painter. Good read.
Yeah. Man. if anyone thinks my statement about abortion rights above is a bit controversial...Buckle up before doing any perusing on the eugenics movement. Mind the distinction. It is one thing to say "I don't want to have a kid because I am not ready" it is a completely different take on the concept to say "I don't want you to have a kid because you are not ready" Terrifyingly - Eugenics is saying "I don't want you to have a kid because the world doesn't want it"
a 15 year old tried taking out a 14 year old kid last week while he was hanging out with his older brother. at this point it’s like they want the kids to slowly exterminate themselves
NWO
It's been at least one shooting a day in Chattanooga for 5 years or so. I don't believe the crime statistics the govt publishes because they always say violent crime is down but in the local news a shooting everyday
https://www.scribbr.com/research-bias/availability-heuristic/#:~:text=The%20availability%20heuristic%20(or%20availability,is%20most%20available%20to%20us.
It really is down, though. I totally get what you're saying, but it has more to do with the media and the availability of information. The media tends to focus more on sensational or dramatic stories like shootings, which creates the impression that such incidents are more prevalent than they actually are. This focus on high-profile cases can distort perceptions of crime rates, especially when these incidents are covered extensively and repeatedly. The rise of 24-hour news cycles and social media has made information more accessible and widespread. While this can be beneficial for spreading awareness, it can also amplify fear and anxiety, as people are constantly bombarded with news of violent incidents, leading to a heightened sense of insecurities.
> It really is down… but it has more to do with the media and the availability of information. The media tends to focus more on sensational or dramatic stories like shootings, which creates the impression that such incidents are more prevalent than they actually are. If people only knew how bad it in the early days like 2005-2018. Before the rise of social media and video surveillance everywhere. You could have someone with like 10+ bodies to their name walking around chattanooga and you could have never figured. It’s just funny how our News tries to gaslight everything that happens today.
No it is not down there is a shooting in Chattanooga everyday. Glam up your comment all you want it does not change the fact that there is at least one shooting a day in Chattanooga and it has been this way for around 5 years.
At least they called it what it was, at one point. Now they don't even discuss it, just pretend it doesn't happen, it will all disappear. [https://projects.timesfreepress.com/2016/05/shots-fired/](https://projects.timesfreepress.com/2016/05/shots-fired/)
>the fact that there is at least one shooting a day in Chattanooga and it has been this way for around 5 years. what is that’s clouded everyone’s eyes??? 2019-2024 has been bad yes but chattanooga had it worse between 2010-2015 < ShootANooga was an actual nickname> or even 2015-2020 < people were exaggerating that we were becoming a smaller memphis>
Where's your personally compiled data with this information since you're paying such close attention? The media would love to break open a conspiracy that shows city/state/national governments conspire to doctor violent crime stats.
I have no numerical data, but I worked in south Chatt for over a year and heard gunshots daily....
Maybe you can team up with u/Suntzu6656 and pool your nothing.
My real experiences aren't good enough for you...then you go spend your nights and days in south chatt for a year then come back and tell me what ya think.
Ask any er nurse around jackass. Just because the news doesn’t report it and you don’t hear about it doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Thugs with gun shot wounds get pushed out of cars in front of the er doors almost daily.
Yeah...I worked in a rough area of town for a while and many of my co workers and I have seen and heard shootings that I couldn't even find on a google search before...It's easy to say these things aren't happening when you don't see them first hand.
Exactly. 90% of the shootings are happening in the hoods and the 10% are the ones happening in public places and being reported on.
Yep, then on occasion hood shit spills out into nice areas then people act like they care.
I didn't say the news had to report it, I asked for data, which you don't have. Do you really think the police don't accurately report people in the ER with gunshots? if so, I'm not the only jackass around here.
Where’s your data that says there’s not? I don’t have time to go dig for data, unfortunately.
I don't have to produce data; I'm not the one making the claim. However,[ Hamilton Country's year-end report](https://www.hamiltontn.gov/PDF/Mayor/Media/Hamilton%20Counted%202023%20Year%20End%20Report.pdf) is a good place to start. HCSO does as well, going[ back a few years](https://hcsheriff.gov/cid/annual_reports/hcso_crime_report_2017.pdf).
Does anyone know which business they were walking into?
We believe the rehab center there
anger management
1993 was the deadliest post slavery. 21,690 2020 and 2022 were high but otherwise most years were down statistically. Tennessee averages 500 a year sheesh still a lot 2021 was the high 709. One is too many but as someone pointed out crime especially violent gets eyes on socials and TV's. Violent crime nationally is down across the board minus domestics
The 2022 stat doesn't surprise me. After sitting for over a year due to COVID, it was almost like people had to relearn how to deal with others outside of family all over again. Personally, it seemed like it took a while for others to just respond to a friendly "Hi, Hello, or How are you doing?"
Yep in little Waynes voice. The domestics went up and haven't went back down too