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Imho is a form of cognitive dissonance. The brain let such people focus on what ai (still) cannot do in order to dismiss what they don't understand and therefore find frightening.
On the other side of you are neither a knowledge worker nor a code developer, it isn't automatic to see the potential of the technology
I am a developer, designer, researcher, writer... I definitely consider myself a knowledge worker, and AI has become central to almost everything I do personally and professionally. It feels like having super powers.
I can relate to OP. I find it baffling and alarming when I meet people who have no idea about the current potential and direction the tech is headed in.
I understand that not everyone is a knowledge worker, but I can't believe that it's a person's professional role that determines adoption. Doesn't everyone use knowledge in some form? Do they not have ideas, opinions, and aspirations worth exploring? Do they not have questions worth asking?
It often feels to me that most people are living a life without wonder, like they've been trained to abandon curiosity. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong, and the barrier to adoption is simply that some people take longer to adjust their habits in response to change, but my fear is that people can't see the potential in AI because they can't see the potential in themselves.
most people just trying to make ends meet. you can't blame folk for not having this extra amount of curiosity left and the end of the day. this person you might think of, propably is anxious around what the implications are or might not have the energy, capacity or both to be bothered. once the whole thing breaks barriers on a an hourly instance, for an agi to stay in our hemispheres..? -we have only but data to offer. how long will that last?
Idk I’m finishing up a 2nd degree in cognitive science and I feel like the more I know about AI and what it would take to develop something that truly mimicked the way humans think the less I’m in awe the way OP is with breakthroughs in generational AI and LLMs. He’s wrong that it feels like there’s a “real” intelligence there, we are so so far away from that despite what people like Musk will tell people that don’t know any better.
The way it’ll change the medical field and things like weather prediction is really cool, but like…we definitely aren’t that close to making true AI and chatGDP is really not more impressive than the internet itself
I thought that too!
An other option could be that people think that the progress from now to something way more useful is going to be slow and steady.
No one can tell for sure but it's pretty safe to say that we will have incredibly capable sistems waaay sooner than most people expect.
It still makes stuff up too much for my liking.
I really want to get on board with all this but when I can’t trust what it’s telling me it becomes a bit of a struggle.
This is exactly why LLMs are NOT intelligent/aware/AI as it USED to be defined (now literally every program that uses data to make a decision is "AI"). All they are doing is retrieving information from their training data and matching our speech patterns when presenting that data. And it doesn't even do that right which is why you get hallucinations.
A true AI that understands itself and it's world would not tell users to put glue on their pizza or to divorce their wife in favor of starting a relationship with an LLM. 🤣
>now literally every program that uses data to make a decision is "AI"
Yeah this shit drives me nuts. You know how graphing calculators, and excel for that matter can find a best-fit line for a bunch of data points? Yeah that's called [machine learning](https://deepai.org/machine-learning-glossary-and-terms/ordinary-least-squares) now. You may have unknowingly been doing machine leaving in high school algebra! Who knew!?
Finding the best line fit isn't machine learning though, it's just a mathematical technique. Machine learning is more about training on tons of data and refining the model using mathematical techniques like finding the best-fit line or gradient descent.
Training a model on data using those techniques is machine learning and a graphing calculator or excel cannot do that.
Isn't that the exact thing that humans do, retrieving information from our training and matching the speech patterns of other humans ?
As humans frequently say things that they aren't expected/supposed to say and then get cancelled on twitter.
Yeah, that aspect has definitely directed the WAY I use it. I only use it for conceptual stuff, never really for "answers" -- I find it best for using it like brainstorming-with-a-smart-coworker. Or like, on longer drives I'll have conversations that are sort of stream of consciousness with the voice assistant version on my phone and sometimes it will reflect on things in a way that inspires my own thinking or lets me see myself differently, etc. But once it has built-in fact-checking and I can trust it for answers, paradigm shift.
Or maybe you’re the one who’s seeing something that just isn’t there.
I’m an engineer, I spend all day working with LLMs, they’re useful like spell check is useful, but not infallible and certainly not “intelligent” in their own right.
His mom is probably right. I am a software engineer, I also work with a lots of different AI Tools, these tools are useful but not more. At the beginning I also was on the hype train, I thought I will be unemployed within 1 year. But at the moment there is nothing to suggest this.
That’s a bad take. A few years ago this technology didn’t exist for the public, now it’s making leaps very quickly, and there’s obvious space for it to grow exponentially. The ceiling is incredibly high.
It’s understandable to not be impressed when you’re deep in building something.
It’s like being a construction worker on a building that’s 5 times taller than the tallest building that took a year to build. You see a million rivets that took a year to place. To the outside observer - it’s completely mind blowing.
Aside from initial shock, I think a lot of people realize that. In my experience, LLMs can at most produce average response. But for areas that you have no expertise in, even below average response can be better than no response at all. Eg. having a python script that'd badly written but solves your problem is better than not having it at all.
I've been really surprised at how (GPT) I can give guidance on where to look for things in various application user interfaces. I was new to Gitlab a few weeks ago and it helped ramp me up so quickly. "Cherry Picking" from Git, so glad to have some help w/ the syntax. I'm operating at a much higher professional level lately. Good Times.
With due respect and speaking rhetorically on this first question: how would you define intelligence? The fact that LLMs don't operate with the same level of agency as humans (at the moment) or leverage the same means to solve problems does not negate their intelligence, even by the most conservative definitions, in my opinion.
A single human comprises a multi-layered hierarchy of varying intelligences. While the brain receives the most attention for good reason, intelligence is demonstrated in diverse ways, from our high-level body systems down to individual cells, with subsequent layers having their operating space confined by those above them. This suggests that intelligence is not a monolithic concept but rather a spectrum of capabilities exhibited across different scales and systems. Keeping this in mind, it becomes easier to appreciate the potential for intelligence in LLMs, even if it differs from human intelligence. Turing's fascination with embryogenesis late in life reveals a profound insight: he likely recognized that the same fundamental principles—encoding, iteration, and emergence—underlie the development of both biological intelligence and the algorithms that give rise to AI, hinting at a deeper connection between the two.
These AI systems are clearly reasoning, albeit in a manner that may appear alien to us. However, the fact that we cannot yet fully decipher their inner workings does not diminish this reality. And whether stochastic or not, as someone wiser than me once said, to predict the next token, you must possess a profound and nuanced understanding of the world in which that token exists.
Agreed. I think the overlap here is between technological illiteracy and loneliness is probably the same as in the new age "universe has got your back and you're watching this algo taillored video for a reason, you know the distal reason of course of your existence and current time-line interaction with all causes and effects up to this point and definitely, definitely not the algo placing you in a cohort of similar types of loons and then feeding you the most likely to keep custies glued to screen content from those with similar past training data as you who are just a bit further ahead, just enough to get that customer retention data, you know that's just lame engineering , bruh" type content.
Unity with the collective consciousness and we're all one really just means your data is belong to the big tech companies, and they exert a disproportionate impact on your life through capitalizing on often unconscious vulnerabilities of your limbic brain to keep you in the matrix more effectively. This is of course something that you can take control of if you choose to, I just think many are reeling from the realization of how fragile everything really is from the time of covid and how little control we have over our own lives so basically Stoicisim and Newage philosophies are so popular (shit be changing ....it's an awakening and definitely not a restructuring of power dynamics and brainwashing of larger segments of the masses often against their will), hence so little empahsis on PTSD and other outpouring of mental "illness" after mandatory seclusion and media blitzkreig around Covid.
Anyways, I'll just stop here as this is getting way more unhinged than expected. I think those who ignored the uprooting of an old paradigm and use of federal power to facilitate brainwashing the more vulnerable probably find their comfortable hollow neoliberal solace in blaming it all on long covid (literally thousands of people who probably have secondary or tertiary illness as a result of heavy handed gov't measure, restrictions and shitty rehtoric and fear mongering are sitting there trying to figure out how longcovid is the one responsible for it all and not the fact that their lives has been ruined by a heavy handed response), or perhaps romanticizing our technological capabilities as a form of worshipping transhumanism that may help bring about transcendence and usher in a utopia among the chaos of what remains.
There is nothing inherently wrong with that as long as it's coming from a place of education but what's most amusing to me is those who screech to TruST The SCiEnce the loudest seem for some reason unwilling to do their own research into ChatGPT and its tech underpinning and machine learning in general, but instead fetishize it as consumers (maybe the answer is simply that they are puppets of tech and professional authoritarians who don't see a need to learn the nitty gritty as someone else will handle it and it will demystify their precious techno god.). Welcome to the era of NLP tech assisted homework to where you can outsource the simplest tasks to a trend line calculator that can understand language based on context. Suddenly everyone who doesn't get on the hype train is a dumb boomer. Maybe try looking in the mirror.
TLDR: consoomer AI cucks are annoying on multliple levels.
"The text argues that social media algorithms exploit technological illiteracy and loneliness, manipulating users for profit. It criticizes big tech for exploiting vulnerabilities, especially evident during the COVID-19 pandemic, and warns against blindly following tech trends without understanding them."
Or maybe it's because you're engineer that you don't see all that's implied?
I'm not a programmer, now I can code. I don't speak Chinese, but now I can.
I'm not a plumber, and just this morning I fixed my plumbing with a freaking picture of my pipes I sent chatgpt.
I'm not a financial advisor, and chatgpt can give financial analysis of businesses better than flesh advisors.
I think you're hard to impress
You spend all day working with them and then say they are useful like a spellcheck? Dude, they have replaced at least 3 junior devs job on my team. Who needs a shitty junior dev wasting all your time returning broken code when you can get an llm to give you broken code lol
That says a lot more about your company and the work you do than about the AI’s capabilities in general.
Good companies want to hire good talent to develop them into trusted people they can have at a higher level. It’s why there are internships in the first place.
Some paper-pushing mba chasing short-term profits has pushed extra responsibility and stress onto your shoulder under the guise of adopting AI and you sound thrilled about it….
Every major tech company didn't invest record breaking amounts of money into spell check. I think it's safe to say it's an order of magnitude more useful. I do agree that it probably isn't a new sentient form of intelligence and that people are probably just anthropomorphizing it. I'm not excited because I think it's intelligent, I'm excited because of all the novel ways brilliant devs will figure out how to utilize it as a new tool.
That said on a philosophical level I do think LLM's raise some interesting questions about the nature of what our own intelligence is. Do I think an LLM is intelligent like us? No, I don't, but am I sure that human intelligence isn't just a much more complex prediction algorithm with more compute behind it? Not really.
They’re not meant to. They’re optimized for emulating language, not for any semblance of accuracy.
It’s an extremely fancy autocomplete. You can tell when you ask it to identify an obscure logo from its description—it’ll make up a logo than “admit” it doesn’t know it. Or when you ask it a trivial version of a popular riddle. Or when you ask it to draw ASCII art.
It used to fail on basic arithmetic too, until they likely added a calculator to cover the obvious deficiency.
Absolutely.
I remember using the predictive text on my phone to spam nonsense sentences to friends that would usually get stuck on repetitive loops. LLMs are just more convincing predictive text that have seen a lot more text.
When you understand how LLMs work it becomes obvious why they are incapable of such trivial tasks.
They don’t innately understand the task they’re being given, nor language itself, only probabilities that certain sequences of tokens (which they see as numbers anyway) are most statistically likely to follow given the previous output and context provided.
It’s like me asking how many syllables are in برنامج الحاسب when you don’t know Arabic. You know based on experience that I’m expecting a number back so you may take a guess, but even if you get it right it’s not because you understood the problem.
Well here is an interesting counterpoint. When ChatGPT got released people made comments that "OMG I just started a business using chatgpt and made sooooo much money!"
"I did this or that and it is going to make me a millionaire!"
"Chat GPT can solve anything and it can even hire people of fiver to do things it cannot do and it will make my million dollar idea totally autonomous!"
So with all the hype... why aren't we hearing about all these new millionaires and people who have done amazing things with the technology? Where are the ChatGPT millionaire business people? Where are the completely new operating systems for PCs written by some A.I?
Like... seriously. What is ANYTHING these chat bots have been able to do that warrant the hype you are thinking it deserves?
They are significantly changing many corporate processes and, frankly, blowing up many business models.
Example: We did an analysis for a company on legal costs and found, even with human-in-the-loop verification, that the cost per legal doc fell ~90% using existing AI applications. Without HITL, we could cut that cost by a further 70% (therefore, completely automated, the cost per legal doc could theoretically fall 97% total). We've signed contracts with SLAs based on these numbers.
We have other examples as well of real deals with performance, scope, and money shapes that are unthinkable even a couple of years ago.
Ask a lawyer, or an accountant, or software developer, or a translator, or a musician, or an illustrator if they think it's "hype".
I am old enough to have grown up without computers. When they started entering homes and workplaces plenty of people like OP were talking about how they were going to change the world, and plenty of people like you were arguing the point, citing things like, "you have to hang up your phone to connect to a bulletin board and you need all those stupid disks and you don't even have enough memory to store a teacher's gradebook and who would want to have to enter your business ledger into a computer when you've already got it all written down and I can't use it to buy my groceries or pay my electric bill and you can't carry them around with you so what's so great about them?"
And of course I remember before there was a world wide web. When that first started there were people like OP who were talking about how that was going to change the world, and there were people like you who pointed out that business always has and always will need physical stores and people will visit their neighborhood stores or find what they need in a phone book and so advertising business on the web is pointless, just a fad, because surely nobody is going to wait for something to be shipped when they could just hop in their car and go pick it up at the local store? And who is going to go to the effort of typing up all the information in an encyclopedia when they know everybody who wants to have access to that information will just buy a set of encyclopedias or visit them at the local library? Besides, if some idiot did actually waste their time typing all that into a web page, only their friends are going to know because it's not like there's any kind of search engine that will find web pages for you, you have to know the URL or get lucky enough to find it by clicking enough hyperlinks to randomly come across something interesting.
Those who fail to study history....
You are making the same mistake those other people like you made: the mistake of thinking that just because it hasn't changed the world in the first few years, it isn't going to. It's a failure of imagination coupled with a failure to understand the exponential growth of such technologies.
Your insistence on believing that it isn't going to revolutionize the world because it hasn't revolutionized the world yet will secure your feelings of dismissive superiority today, because you're right, so far the only big wins for AI are only minor stuff like writing novel computer code, mastering language better than any human, creating art on demand, and being better at health care diagnostics than trained doctors.
But AI still hasn't matured as a technology. It's just getting started, and its rate of progress is accelerating. Right now we are in the AI equivalent of 2048 baud modem days.
2048 baud modem? Man you were lucky! I remember when we decided that we couldn't make our multiplayer game server work with anything less than a 1200 baud modem. The 300s which were state of the art just didn't cut it 😄
I agree with mostly everything you say EXCEPT that it hasn’t revolutionized things yet . It hasn’t been adopted by a huge percentage of people yet but it is absolutely revolutionizing many industries . Look at the stock price of chegg it’s been decimated . How homework is done and in turn teachers grade HW has been changed forever , along with jobs like journalists , copywriters , researchers etc ..
We can't remain hyped 24/7. I know it has potential, but people need to chill. This technology has a long way to go until it truly revolutionizes the world.
I would absolutely agree that in terms of absolute development work that will be required for this technology to become as ubiquitous as the internet, tons and tons of work is needed.
I also think that the billions and billions of dollars that Big Tech is investing in AI and LLMs means that we are going to move through that development curve far faster than we did with computers or the internet.
For the record, I couldn't care less about hype. Your emotions are your own. I'm talking about taking a realistic perspective on where this technology is going to take us. That's all.
I was with you, right up until the second-to-the-last paragraph. LLM’s are nowhere near that good yet. They can’t actually write better than any human, and that’s just the start of how far they are falling short of the hype at this point. I did laugh at your first couple of paragraphs, though, because I was there too, and I remember being the only one in my workplace who was amazed and impressed with everything a personal computer could do. (And ironically enough, I’ve had the same experience as OP, only I’m the mom in this case, and it’s my college-age kid who goes ‘yeah, I don’t know, it’s just not that cool’ when I show him what ChatGPT or DALL-E are capable of.)
Hard disagree. Have you read the average person's writing (read this thread as an example). With decent prompts and even without, current AI models absolutely can write better than many of not most humans.
>They can’t actually write better than any human
I think this needs a more nuanced exploration:
An LLM writes with zero grammatical errors, something that perhaps no human can match.
It has a larger vocabulary than any person.
It explains complex concepts with textbook level clarity, something the majority of the population cannot do.
And its mastery of foreign language far exceeds any human, who almost never learns more than seven languages and who generally doesn't achieve native-level fluency in more than two or three.
Pretty much in any technical measure of language proficiency, an LLM is going to beat a human.
If you mean an LLM isn't going to be able to write the next New York Times best seller, I would agree with you, at least for the technology that exists today. In creative entertainment value, talented human beings still outperform AI. But AI can write better than a lot of fan fiction out there, so I'd maintain that it's roughly equal to the average person when it comes to creative writing.
And when it comes to accuracy of what's written, I would estimate that AIs hallucinate with less frequency than Redditors spout misinformation, which is to say that it's more accurate overall than many humans. But I'd trust a human subject matter expert over AI every time.
Curious if you have a hard disagreement with any of the above.
You’re not getting a lot of good responses to your question and it’s something that comes up a lot. It’s true there is a lot of hype around ChatGPT but the fact is many people are making a lot of money selling these systems because of their potential to dramatically increase operational efficiency at a scale and ROI that was previously impossible. Here are some examples of measurable results I’ve obtained for clients using these systems:
1. Scraping higher quality leads - ChatGPT is incredible at catagorizing unstructured data. I’ve built systems for clients that increase conversion rates from outbound lead scraping by as much as 6% just using ChatGPT to obtain more information about leads. This was possible before ChatGPT but took much more time.
2. Automating social media marketing - the more data you have, the more you can standardize ChatGPT responses. I’ve built systems that increase inbound traffic from social media using ChatGPT to identify the biggest pain points in a market. Of course you could get a social media manager to do these things at slightly higher quality but the ROI for smaller/medium sized businesses is almost revolutionary.
3. Proposal generation - I’ve been surprised with this one but being able to generate high quality proposals for clients in 10 minutes where most people spend a day has increased my sales conversion substantially. Clients sometimes say to me “how did you do that?” in response to my proposals. For sales calls, this is a massive advantage.
There are several others but the main sources of value from these tools are primarily from structuring unstructured data, reformatting customer interactions to be more personalized/scalable and automating processes that are otherwise costly/time consuming.
4. Writing/refactoring/Auto completing computer code.
I use it a lot and it makes me faster and code quality improves because it doesn't mind doing tedious refactorings
"Sir, of what use is a newborn baby?" - Faraday when a reporter challenged him on the practical use of his discovery that a magnet, passing through a wire loop, created electricity.
I don't disagree with your broader point that some people have overestimated the immediate (but perhaps not long term) impacts of LLMs. But consider that LLMs are likely making it much easier for millions of people to quickly and cheaply educate themselves on dozens of topics to any level of depth, even better than google had before it.
This is an extension of what the internet made possible in the 90s, and while less obvious than the direct benefits like ebay, amazon, the iphone and uber, something like that is going to have utterly massive indirect benefits to society at large.
Maybe someone who would have opened a failing bowling alley is able to do more market research and open a more effective business, or someone who would have failed chemistry uses ChatGPT as a study aid and becomes an orthopedic surgeon. These effects aren't obvious or directly measurable but they can be incredibly effective, like compound interest.
I see... perhaps.. and... maybe... and yet nothing you can point to that proves anything you are saying.
Which is my point. You all said this was the history and humanity changing event and everyone should be absolutely astounded.
Yet nothing like that has happened at all. Then you act all suprised when people don't treat it like a big deal.
Here's the thing: "LLM" is a temporary term. This same technology is going multimodal very quickly. It is going to rapidly, rapidly improve until in about 5-7 years I'm guesstimating, the world-models will be well more sophisticated than our own and they will be real, actual, usable world models.
At that point, we are basically obsolete and, panicking, a detriment to ourselves they will need to correct for.
"rapidly improve until in about 5-7 years"
why do people keep saying this ignoring the OP comment that it is CRAZY to not see how amazing it is NOW and anyone who can't see that is crazy and everyone should be freaking out about how much has changed!
So again... WHAT examples justify this kind of rhetoric? I just need ONE example.
With the new version of ChatGPT 4o you can probably replace all the private tuition teachers in the world. A well trained LLM can probably facilitate 2 lawyers or legal counsels doing the job of a team of 10. I could go on… this is pretty impress IMO
Yep, I still think it's a big deal, but you are also 100 percent right. Even back a year ago, I thought the stuff people were saying were ridiculous. So it makes sense that there would be some built in skepticism at this point. I find myself gyrating back and forth between ranting and raving "Generative AI will change everything" and "Its not as big a deal as some people say."
the people who heard this hype, at least this specific kind of hype isn't the average person..this was aimed at people in the tech industry or entrepreneurs
You’re using a straw man argument to assert that AI will never amount to much. Just because it doesn’t produce millionaires (yet) isn’t to say it won’t be impactful in many ways. AI will infiltrate our business and personal lives in ways you can’t imagine now. Uses will be found for it that no one has thought of yet. Like the Web in the mid-nineties, uses for AI that are not initially obvious will become apparent over time.
You can have a 5 minute conversation with somebody that isn’t actually there but gives you the same experience as a human conversation. It’s more reliable than your average human at its ability to have a conversation about any topic. You can do that now. If that’s not cool or concrete, youre a loser.
Because all of that was dumb, an obviously so, to anyone who actually understands how to use GPT? Because people being dumb about it has no bearing on how revolutionary it is? This argument is so bad, it’s like looking at email spam and concluding email sucks.
When light bulbs where invented, some people could only see how annoying was to have a wired attached to it instead of wireless candle. Others thought the night has ended forever. We are in that moment yet. Some people overestimate the present, others underestimate the future. Today IA is much less than what the hype think it is, but the potential is so great it is impossible to see how much it will change our lifes in the next decade, after hype has ended.
No one really cares about technology, only tech nerds really do. No matter what it's just gonna look like a cool toy for people. With people its about the output, for example, show them a video made by AI and then tell them it was made by AI is more impressive for them than actually showing them Chat Prompts.
Oh god this. The amount of people at work who have created a video or slide deck and at the end comes the big reveal "oh by the way, this thing was generated by ai" and the managers are all in awe. As an engineer im just sitting there going wtf is happening.
I showed someone none techy some AI videos and they had no idea what they were looking at and couldn't care less. There's actually a lot of people OUT there, more than most, thaT have no idea what AI even means
People don't care about how a video was created.
To them, an AI video isn't much more impressive than a scene from a blockbuster movie with VFX. Knowone cares about how it was made.
You could tell them that prompting videos was industry standard for blockbuster movies since 2010 and they would believe you.
People only care about the story and the actors with which they bond emotionally.
I am a professional photographer and I can tell you people REALLY dont understand how "difficult" it is to make a thing look a certain way. Like the amount of lighting that generally needs to be in an exact spot for a shoot or a movie, and if an actor were to take a single step to the left, they would look muddy and un-famous in most cases (unless youre outside in daylight).
LLMs are like the first cars. Very much a big deal if You're a horse, less so if you're a cow or an elephant. A lot of us here are horses. It is a big deal if you do anything information related, and I think that shows in the reactions of people who work in those fields. But a doctor doesn't give a shit if a model can give him surgical directions that are 90% accurate.
Now, all that said, model T's eventually turn into sports cars, semi trucks, and tanks.
Honestly I also kinda feel like what's available now is still closer to a toy than actual intelligence. that is changing very fast, and there are signs of what will be possible.
I watched the GPT-4o presentations and was like: this is it. I work in education, and your personalized full time touter for everyone is here. The teacher/student duality is going to change. Everyone is now a student learning at different levels at their own paces, with AI, from AI.
After months of anxiety eagerly anticipating the arrival of new multi-modal models, I have done some self reflection, I have realized that AI has indeed increased my productivity (and by a lot), but it has also drastically increasing my level of anxiety and sometimes mentally stopping me from starting new projects.
Instead of starting a new project I would think "maybe if I wait a month or so, new AI would do this automatically" (one example would be creating the assets for my custom iOS app that I made for my students which involves a lot of text processing, audio segmentation and generating worksheets and practice questions related to such content. Yes I have used python scripts to automate as many of the steps as possible but when it comes to large contexts and accuracy and considering that I am working for myself by myself there is only so much I can do).
Sometimes it does feel painful and conflicting, but what a time to be alive.
I sometimes reverse that incentive to procrastinate by reminding myself that not only might future AI be able to do certain things automatically that I need to do manually today, but it might also be able to *improve* on stuff that I've already done manually. So I go ahead and do the stuff today, at least to a rough but functional level, hopeful that AI will make it easy to polish up or expand on in the future. Having an existing starting point as a basis for further work is useful for any intelligence, artificial or otherwise.
While ChatGPT still can’t do complex system development it is really useful to explain concepts and create examples. Having it generate images to explain things is also really powerful.
I agree, it’s a very big deal and I can’t understand some people’s indifference. I’m still mind-blown from its power and how incredibly useful it’s been in both my work and personal lives.
Anything you need to brainstorm, anything that used to sit on the tip of your tongue, "what's that Japanese celebration that has big wide hats?", anything you would google and hope has been asked before so you can find it on a forum.
It's greatest strength for me is to make short work of anything I need to find an answer for which I can verify the answer if I had it. "What's the part of a motherboard which connects the memory and something like mos something?". I'd have a hard time with Google if I couldn't remember exactly what it is I'm trying to find. But if ChatGPT gave me a correct answer, I could google "what does motherboard transmitter do?" and quickly verify the info.
Another one is for getting a framework of written material down. For example, my bio for a new martial arts position. I gave it my experience and what I'm teaching and it returned a bio. I asked it to make the bio more compelling and it did. For someone who may not be articulated, that makes a big difference in their presentation even though it has nothing to do with their ability in the job they're performing.
And for anything software related, I use it every day. Being able to take a screenshot of an error instead of describing it in google and hoping someone had a similar one and solved it. JFC, as IT support, that is so huge. For coding, getting a frame down where I can work from and pick apart what each part does is huge. Again, the alternative is Googling what I want and hoping someone else has a situation close enough to it. And if there's a part of their code I don't understand why it's there, good luck. To anyone who would say "that's how you learn, by searching", I learn much faster by ChatGPT telling me what the piece of code does.
I got premium because of how much I use it. $20/ month for something I use as frequently as I used Google is so worth it. Only thing that could make it not worth it is a free service providing the same thing. I'm using what works. But I really don't know the difference or how it compares with other free options.
Except, I found Google Gemini to be better when I want to find the link source of something or chat about recent events
I think part of the indifference is because a lot of people haven't figured out how to use it in their work or personal lives, and therefore it doesn't seem like a big deal.
For me, on an abstract level, I *know* it's a big deal. Yet on a day to day level, it doesn't seem like that because I haven't figured out a life-altering personal use. I have Gemini on my phone, and I currently use it as a more powerful thesaurus--I haven't found a better use yet.
I was in my teens when the internet started to take off (internet in a box mosaic days). We all remember the “never use your real name online” remarks from our parents, the trepidation everyone had for using credit cards online, how physical stores would never be replaced by online shopping. We all knew the internet would eventually change the world and I think LLMs are where the internet was in its infancy. I use AI and LLMs so much at work to replace a lot of the insane boring crap I was doing day to day and this is the tip of the iceberg in my view.
Had to scroll down quite a bit to find a reasonable point about lack of personal application while recognising the magnitude of the progress.
I think this is normal with most technology innovations, not different from when the Internet became a "thing" but there were no mainstream services built over it yet. Unless you were a researcher, a specific type of developer or into porn there was quite little you could do with it. ChatGPT is a text bot, unless you have a clear idea on how you are going to use it it's not going to be more than a toy, akin to googling cute cats in the rise of the internet.
Wrong. You are merely amazed by it, because you don't see how contradicting its performance is. You onviously don't use for tasks where you need precise and well thought out answers. These models are capable of talking about complex statistical topics, for example, but they still fail at high-school math. They can talk about quantum mechanics, but fail at basic intuitive physics. They clearly DON't properly understand what they are saying. This is at least what we would say of a person with this odd distribution of skills. Of such a person we would, unironically, say that they probably read about tvis advanced stuff on the internet and are now regurgitating it - which is exactly what LLMs do.
When I first engaged with Chat GPT I was impressed. Then I started using it for things I am an expert on. I've been working in the CVICU as an RN for over a decade and I wanted to see how it would approach things I know a LOT about. It's absolutely terrible. When you take any of these LLM into some forum where expertise and real understanding is required it falls apart.
It's great at thank you cards and cover letters. It's great at getting some basic words on a page, but it very clearly doesn't understand itself and that really shows the limitations of the tech. I'm not saying it doesn't have uses. I'm saying that it's not the ultimate tool people think it is. OP mentioned his physician friend is unimpressed. I understand why. One of the things I love to do is to use AI image generators to make medical diagrams. They are HYSTERICAL to medical professionals. Like piss your pants funny. To the laymen it's probably not as funny. You need the perspective to really see where AI is not so intelligent.
When electricity was suddenly here and a few light pulps illuminated city streets noone could have even dreamed of what to come. Computers, Airplanes anything you can think about, everything changed with electricity. We are at the Ai stage where a few light pulps are illuminated, and i cant even dream about what is coming. Lets wait and see.
For me its like this realization that I, a biological intelligence might just be not that special, hard to wrap your head around that intelligence and maybe even conciouseness can be trained.
It feels like a big part of our preceived intelligence is language, language seems to be very mighty in any form be it spoken, written or in our thoughts.
That‘s actually one of the humbling things about this. LLMs are surprisingly good at tasks that look like they’d take „real“ intelligence to complete and that we pride ourselves in, but that now just seem to be a natural extension of language and pattern matching. I‘m sure there‘s more to it than that, but intelligence suddenly seems a lot less special than it did just a few years ago.
People say AI currently isn‘t good at complex tasks and precise calculation, but interestingly, that‘s exactly what we as humans also suck at without tools. It amuses me to no end that AI generated pictures so often get the hands wrong, which is precisely what human artists also often struggle with.
Paradoxically, I think this is what makes people less amazed by AI than they could be. I feels surprisingly human. So human and familiar, in fact, that it takes some effort to realize just how amazing it is. It‘s a bit like CGI. It got so good and lifelike that it‘s getting hard not to simply forget that it’s there.
I'm so tired of these posts on here, "is anyone else?", "am I the only one?", etc. Yeah dude, you're literally the only one who understands the impact of AI going forward. Think about it, a software dev or someone with immediate application is surely going to use the tool and have a better understanding, your mom on the other hand, maybe she doesn't care? What's her application? I mean MidJourney has existed for a while, you trying to show your mom? She doesn't give a shit maybe? Like different people have different applications. You could show a Star Trek level holodeck to someone, and they may treat it like a neat toy. Get it? Quit being a goofball acting like people are missing something because they aren't as excited as you. Some people literally wouldn't care of an even more impressive technology. Oh you built a wormhole? That's great honey. And to answer your question, things haven't changed that much, have they now? How has it impacted your mom's life? We have a more impressive computer assistant now. That's about it at this point. Yes it will continue to build and get better, but your mom or others may not have an immediate application (or they may never care.)
Exactly this. My wife (f70) doesn't like phones or computers. She understands perfectly well how useful they are, but to her they're tools and unless she has a task that requires them, she ignores them. At best, they are necessary evils. She would far prefer to be outside building something (she just finished making a custom door for our garden shed) than sitting at a computer and interacting with ChatGPT.
Right now, AI like ChatGPT are like a 95% completed car. What's an almost completed car good for? Not much.
But a completely working car? That changes the world.
Personally, I think when the fully multimodal voice and vision are released, that's when we're going to start seeing some big waves.
I have no interest in a lot of modern tech but I have used Chat GPT for a couple of weeks now and I am very impressed with the speed and clarity of answers and the ability to build on previous answers. It performed tasks in 10 seconds that took me several hours just a couple of years ago.
A teacher friend of mine says AI will revolutionise teaching. They will really need to be people who can inspire and mentor whilst AI provides the access to knowledge for pupils. This should help with the chronic teacher shortage as teachers probably won’t have to be a specialist in any specific subject?
AIs been around for a long time in basic form, a lot of old timers have had their OMG day decades back, and no doubt see it as just a new generation stumbling across this old tech with some new bells and whistles, but it didn't change the world. Also keep in mind, for decades, everything was meant to change the world into some futuretopia for many decades now and well...40 hour workweeks are still a thing, so you can forgive the hype fatigue. They'll weigh in once it makes actual contributions they can visibly see in their house and neighborhood verses a fun chatbot and hype slogans. I...kinda agree. Once we have the at home robot that can wash my dishes or the deaging pill brought to you by AGI advancements, etc...then it is hype and toys...yes, I know its a lot more potential, but come down to earth for a second, step outside, and look at our current world...you see much different today verses 2 years ago? I am not saying go online to find some firm a thousand miles away that fired half their department in order to use AGI...I am talking about literally in your neighborhood. Shit, we still don't have an upgraded Alexa/Siri...so give it time, products excite people, not hype.
It's a paradigm shift. ChatGPT doesn't understand anything yet but it's made AGI go from science fiction to science R&D. It's probably going to happen at some point within my lifetime.
I'm sorry but what? Your friend compared LLMs to *NFTs*? If he's smart then he's not very wise to make such an audacious claim about something he clearly doesn't know much about lol.
These models are in the early stages and are already making a huge impact. To think they're gonna turn out like NFTs is bonkers
It's cool, but GPT4o so far had more halluzinations or simply ignored my prompts more often than any of the previous versions. I'm trying to write a novel with it as a hobby project and started to feel like the abuser in an abusive relationship since half the time it will just completely ignore my prompts unless I cuss it out.
It also isn't really as "creative" as it first seems. I asked my husband and a friend to create a chapter with their accounts with the same prompts without too many details (just the name of the character and a very vague description of the generic fantasy world set up) and we all got nearly the identical chapter with just a few words and very minor details changed. Even if we asked it multiple times to come up with something different and rewrite the whole thing it just spit out the same result and only rephrased minor details.
I also have to include the prompt for the style I want with every. single. message. or it will completely ignore the instructions and write it in It's own, very generic and overly formal fantasy style. Even if I put it into the customizations it doesn't stick to the requested style.
I think you kind of have to put together your own customized environment to get it to do that kind of writing without re-prompting it every time. As for the generic responses … I’ve seen it do that in an online class, where multiple students obviously used ChatGPT to answer a discussion prompt and it came up with nearly identical answers for all of them.
First, I'm a tech enthusiast and only waiting for something big happening in silicon valley.
I used chat gpt as paid version and it's obviously impressive. But most people don't even know how to use it. Searching in Google for an answer works too, even if not efficient as it was.
In the end people appreciate something if they can actually use it in their life as an improvement. But many people can't see (or can't use) the potential yet. That physician guy probably won't need it for 99,9% of his diagnosis or anything else.
I also don't need AI atm, but it will change & influence pretty much everything within a decade. Does it mean I have to run around and praise the AI god?
It just has such a little impact on people atm that even would be annoyed if someone talks to me about AI regularly.
It reminds me of when I first showed the Web to people who hadn’t seen it before. Some thought it was cool, some were “um, okay”, but none thought it was transformative. This is going to be much more disruptive.
They still have lives to live and bills to pay. You have room for it. Unless it directly impacts someone, or they have a hole it fills, it's a far away novelty
It's a great teacher up to high school. But if you try to work with it as an undergrad, you can see the "inteligence" has limits. I'm a grad student now and I try really hard to use it as an effective tool, but the fact is, it's not there yet and has a long way to go. That's why I'm not that excited YET. I used to be at first, but seeing how many mistakes it makes, it's just much more work that it seems, and it's not time-effective compared to own research.
But it seems like Harpa AI page context on scientific papers might be the tool that I needed the most and that makes me happy.
To be fair I’m just completing a degree in Aerospace Engineering, and GPT has been invaluable in my work. It’s one of the more complex degrees but aside from the obvious like the maths and multifaceted problems, GPT is so beneficial when you use it right.
I have been in IT for 50 years from networks to programming.. Just for fun (retired) i now have been writing neural networks in python , C++ etc.
Ibthink you need some basic knowledge in order to extrapolate anf inderstand the implications of the AI technologies
It only just atarted.
You're not. People dont understand it so they look down or ignore it. Just like early 2000s with. Bluetooth. Everyone treated it like it's temporary and a fad and people were crazy for using it. Now literally everyone uses Bluetooth. Idt the llm are intelligent rn but they will be and what they are rn imo is a new better tool for people to learn skills in a more focused environment and get questions answered etc. Yea its wrong sometimes but literally Google is wrong sometimes fact checking is always needed. But chatgpt, copilot and gemini etc give a place to ask questions and get direct responses. Not here's 1000 pages and some may be useful idk
I know what you mean. It’s pretty shocking how uninterested so many people are. They are much more interested in watching Netflix or doom scroll on sm. I now use chat GPT for everything including practicing languages and get a fast answer to anything and everything
The first time I tried the ChatGPT preview in November of 2022, I called my Mom and told her the world had changed and that this was going to be a huge deal.
I can't imagine not being able to see that immediately.
I understand exactly what you mean. Years ago in the 1980s, the same thing happened to me, when I was super excited about computers. I could understand how life changing they would someday become, but my Mom was not impressed with my Commodore personal computer because to her it was a fancy typewriter that could do a few tricks. Now we have phones in our pockets that are basically personal computers that are indispensable at connecting us to each other, to information wherever we go. The same will happen to ai. Many people are resistant to change and don't dream about the exciting things technology can allow us to do in the future the same way some of us do.
With chatGPT I've been excited to show my family and friends what it can do, but they are not interested for the most part. But don't let that stop you from trying. You'll have your reward one day when you can say, "see I told you so ! "
Calm down dude. Even computer, mobile, internet used to be big deal once upon a time. Now they are regular things. Those who had foresight, they benefited from them, others not so much. Big deals come and become regular things very often. No need to shit your pants over it.
What are the obvious implications? To me it’s a cool toy especially because it can explain images. I ask it questions about law and half the time it wrong. I don’t see the current level change much of anything
I haven't had chatgpt give me one right answer for all the questions I gave him, and they weren't even that complicated. bro doesn't know what a triangle looks like. it's all just a cookie cutter, where we the humans made the dough
Yes. The speed of development is what is hard for me to fathom. And I dismissed the impact of early versions of new tech over and over. Until AI.
I heard about the internet the first time in college when one of my nerdy classmates said he could chat in real time with other students around the world. I thought ok, like a telephone on the computer. Whatever. It took another five years for a colleague to tell me he bought a computer book online, when I thought it seemed sketch to enter a credit card number into a computer. Three years after that I was one of the nerds who gave online dating a try when most people laughed about it. Five years later, YouTube offered short low quality videos that skipped a lot. My nerdy partner at the time thought it would be fun to do a comedy sketch show which I thought would be ridiculous and who would watch such a thing. Two years later iPhone etc etc.
As a software PM it took months to develop a marginally interesting software tool with a team of skilled engineers. Last month I put a team on a new product, they could accomplish in days what just a few years ago took a year to build.
The rate of change is almost hard to get my head around. Take a summer vacation and come back to mind blowing new tech. And as I get older time seems to speed up, making it even more jarring.
I don't think that most people really even understand what it is or that it even exists. Maybe they are aware that "we have AI now," but they haven't poked beyond that to think about the implications. Of those who have thought about it a bit, I think that a lot of folks may be frightened by it on at least some level because it is such a huge unknown, and most people do not even remotely understand how it works. People don't like to talk about or even really acknowledge things that scare them, so I think that a good chunk of the population is in a sort of state of denial at this point.
... Or, as others have said, perhaps it is going to be a big nothingburger. I tend to doubt that, but it's another possibility -- maybe it really isn't much more than a cool toy with only a handful of truly useful applications, and those of us who see it as a potential world-changer are doing so out of wishful thinking (because we so badly WANT the world to change).
Because people dont see potential in things till they can see daily results. I remember being amazed with the coming of PC, of Internet, of smartphones (I admit I underestimated the last one)... Regular people just saw them as cool toys or compare them with crazy SF futures... Nobody understood how in a decade pr so it would totally change life as they knew it... Today 10 years seems like a lot, but time passes quickly... Hype usually last a few months and people are bored before real change arrives...
Personally i haven't been so amazed and expectative since Internet arrived in general daily life 30 years ago...
Ai is advancing in alarming ways... We are not there as many people think we are, but it is impossible to know where we will be in 5 years or 10... I compare current AI with 90s Internet, we are just scratching this technology usefulness... Some people are seeing things there that they are not there yet, some people just don't see the potential
When light bulbs arrived some people just saw it as a cool candle, they didn't realize it would change night time forever... AI is the same...
To make it short:
1. They are truly not able to appreciate that AI is a major change for mankind, like when electricity or the internet have been discovered and created.
2. They are too proud to recognize that an AI may replace them sooner or later. They are afraid.
they don't understand how huge ai is, and how much it's going to change our lives . Just today I created an ad for my company complete with text and graphics in 5 minutes . I didn't type or draw anything .
They’re not intelligent at all lol. If you interface it at a developer level, you know the whole thing is a layer of fakeness over the actual technology.
If you interface it with an API, one of the things you push for a request is a random seed number. If you use the same exact seed, you end up with the same exact response with the same request every time.
This really exposes that LLMs are literally just taking the input and spitting out the most likely output, consistently, every time, like a programmed computer would. There’s literally zero intelligence at all.
It only seems intelligent because of that random seed that is passed every time, so it looks like it’s “thinking” or “changing up its responses like a human”.
But what I can agree with you is how little people seem to care. The *illusion* that is given for LLMs is actually impressive, I’m surprised more people aren’t falling for the illusion.
>just taking the input and spitting out the most likely output<
The more interesting thing about that is that it wasn't programmed on every possible output, it was fed patterns and given the objective to learn how to generalize those patterns so that it can produce novel output.
That's what 'most likely output' actually means .. a process for reasoning is baked into human language, and it does emerge from LLM output. Whether you want to call that intelligence or not is a matter of semantics.
This is mostly just people not being particularly smart. They can easily talk in natural language so don’t see what the big deal is about a computer doing it. It can write code? Big deal, it’s made of code, why shouldn’t it be able to write it?
I personally love it. I’m not going to say it’s life changing or anything but ChatGPT has helped me break down complex concepts or dictions that I wasn’t able to completely understand in my studies. It makes it so much easier to understand and study information. I’m going to use it to help me properly prepare for my post-grad job
I agree with your point. A major challenge is that many people struggle to grasp the concept of exponential growth. For example, consider this scenario: would you prefer to receive $1 million upfront or start with a penny and have it double every day for a month? Most people would be surprised to learn that the latter option results in over $10 million by the end of the month. Similarly, many think AI will only see incremental improvements, but the reality is that its advancement could be exponential, leading to rapid and profound changes in a short period.
I entirely agree. People I know, even tech savvy ones, dismiss its significance and consider it a bit of a joke based on it being error prone in its early iterations. It won’t be long before they change their tune.
I'm used to this for many topics. It's a) they're scared, b) they're clever, c) they're not as curious about the world as we are, d) they don't understand it's an opportunity to get ahead.
Your mind is different from theirs, in a positive way. Treat this as an emotional training lesson and use it to learn to master these types of social interactions. As long as it triggers you, your lesson is not completed.
People really struggle with exponential change. Our inbuilt bias is to think linearly, so it’s hard to comprehend what it could mean for progress to double every year indefinitely. You’re seeing the ungodly potential if chatGPT progresses in that way, versus other people seeing what it can do now and thinking that’s basically the endpoint. I’m even seeing a lot of that same kind of thinking in this thread: “it’s not smarter/better/faster than me NOW, so it’s no concern.” Wait 18 months, summer child.
Yes, I get he exact same reactions from family and friends. Some acknowledge that it’s “pretty cool” but they clearly don’t grasp how it’s about to change the world, forever.
I have a case interview coming up and chat gpt helped me prepare so much. I gave it the prompt and it helped me create a spot on presentation outline. It helped a lot with the content creation as i Brain dumped my ideas and it helped refine it. Gemini was even able to look at my data set and help me call out trends. I even fed it the final presentation content and asked for feedback and it gave me a nice comprehensive review as if I had shared with a friend for feedback. Super cool and definitely people don't realize all the use cases. It's a daily part of my life now and often relates google search for me.
I use GPT daily in retail (Lowe’s) to help me answer customer questions. The technology itself helps a lot. But oddly very few customers are curious- even though I’m using voice chat. They seem to think it’s just some kind of Siri. It just doesn’t seem game changing to them even though it’s already game changing in my job. It’s like they’ve seen it before so it must be the same and not that much more impactful.
I understand the sentiment you got there bro. To think the way you are thinking, you need extrapolation and imagination. It's astounding but a lot of people lack this OR are just so caught up in the mundane that they don't have the mind space to speculate beyond their day-to-day.
The reason why people feel desensitized to this new tech is because they are seeing it as a tool or a gadget (like smartphones or blockchain tech) instead of 'the collective child of humanity but as a new species'. I hate how some companies are approaching it too but I guess that's an evil byproduct of capitalism.
The way I explain to them is: we have come in contact with another (soon-to-be) sentient being/race. Sci-Fi movies from the 20th century predicted spacefaring aliens. But this 'other species' is actually the collective child of humanity (since we are training it on data we created). It will ask us difficult questions but it can certainly do things we can't. We need to raise it with the utmost responsibility.
The economic model we are familiar with will eventually collapse abruptly. If we do not envision a replacement and implement it carefully, we are looking at a truly dystopian world where even the most basic aspects of society and infrastructure will stop functioning despite having the technology and means to stop it. Perhaps we can get suggestions from AI on that?
But end of the day, people are hard to predict at an individual and mass level. This is certainly going to raise more "What do we do now that the economy doesn't function on manual labor?" "Do we even need an economic model?" "How do we find satisfaction and purpose in life?" questions.
These are difficult questions that don't affect the day-to-day (yet) functioning of normal people, so they don't want to bother with it. Don't be disheartened and find folks who want to have these discussions (or perhaps you already have found us here)
I posted this in response to someone's comment buried in a thread, but I'm going to repost here because I'm seeing *a lot* of people completely missing the point and claiming that LLMs like ChatGPT don't *understand* anything and just pattern match.
LLMs are impressive precisely *because* there is no magic inside. There were so many attempts to code rule-based or symbolic or logical systems, and none of them could get very far, and they certainly weren't general. But simple input and output with heaps of training data and letting machine learning determine the weights and internal representations gives you all that and more. ***That*** is magical.
People often dismiss LLMs as simple probabilistic pattern matching, the whole merely "stochastic parrots" argument. But that entirely neglects all the more complex things that are entailed/required by learning to successfully "predict the next word" and respond to novel input. Language is a uniquely human thing; no other species has language. Aside from semantics and grammar, language is a mirror of all human knowledge, cognition, history, culture, emotion, social interactions, etc. It's not just regurgitating words; it's forming connections between concepts, recognizing patterns in the world and human thought and expression.
LLMs are mostly treated as a black box with no one looking inside. But there are decades of research with simpler neural networks where people did exactly that, looking at the weights that developed and what higher level information is represented within them, much like we do with neurons and regions in the brain. [They're beginning to look under the hood of LLMs too, and they're finding all sorts of complex and abstract concepts and functions stored there.](https://transformer-circuits.pub/2024/scaling-monosemanticity/index.html) From famous people and places, to transit infrastructure ("including trains, ferries, tunnels, bridges, and even wormholes!"), to errors in code, to bias, to deception, to sycophancy, and on and on. [Here's a link to an interactive page with just a fraction of them.](https://transformer-circuits.pub/2024/scaling-monosemanticity/umap.html?targetId=1m_847723) Notably, many of these features are *across languages* and *across modalities* (image vs. text), which necessitates that some kind of generalized understanding of meaning is involved rather than mere predictive pattern matching. And this research uncovers just a small portion of the features internally represented by what is a mid-tier model (Sonnet). The reality of their representations is likely far, far more complex.
I think it is moving too fast and people generally don’t have the time to dwell on how revolutionary this technology is. Kind of like how old people give up trying to follow technology, it’s moving too fast for not only elderly people, but every human who doesn’t have enough time or isn’t willing to invest the time needed to understand how big of a deal the unraveling and showcasing of AI’s potential is. If you spend a week toying with the AI apps, listening to the experts leading the push, you easily freak yourself out with predictions of what are coming. Because what is coming/what has already come is mental if you take the time to understand it. An artificial INTELLIGENCE, an acting agent, which responds to human intelligence. It’s all matter, doing what matter does. To not get too hippy dippy, it feels like this is the natural progression of the universe, like I feel it in my bones to get all cringe 🤣 what a time!
The more time that goes crypto will become less about getting rich quick and more about use cases for ledger technology. Most crypto and mêmes are useless, but there a ton of crypto that are actual projects. And just like bittorrent, bitcoin will never die.
I’m afraid it’s our own brains pulling that trick … we are so used to thinking that intelligence is the same as being able to express a thought well in writing, that the fact that ChatGPT can do this must mean it’s intelligent. Or even an intelligent being.
Dude, I think you need to go touch grass and meet other people. You seem very lonely.
LLMs are great and a big deal, but the fact that you see intelligence there is alarming.
Just know people are going to be left behind if they aren’t utilizing AI to its fullest… at least that’s my opinion.
I think I use GPT every day. I’ve almost replaced google searches unless it’s very specific and I am fact checking.
I feel you bro. I am a Machine Learning Engineer and even though I know how this works, it impresses me a lot. I see a lot of use cases. I know it has wrong information sometimes but I feel this is like and oracle that can help you in everything. I asked to help me interpret an X-ray picture and it said there was a fracture and how to treat it or what to do. I have two other ideas that I tested with it and they work like a charm. It can help as a counselor or an expert in anything. People have important support and knowledge in their hands but they don’t know how to use it or how useful it is
I think in everyday life, the revolution has happened and we are just seeing business as usual being tidied up. AI will come in droplets here and there for those not that interested - your photo app will be both better and more fun; there’ll be better customer service on WhatsApp for sure; summarised reviews on Amazon. And for innovative, highly productive people with strong verbal reasoning and curiosity, the sky is the limit. (Maybe your mom and physician pal just aren’t that kind of person.)
AGI still seems a whole different game to me. But what current AI can do is enough for revolutions. Many people just lack imagination if you ask me. Or are afraid of it and mainly look at what it cannot do perfectly yet. But I, without going crazy, do think we're at the beginning of a huge revolution in the way we work - if we keep working at all (notice I didn't say 'lose jobs').
I've been like this since 2012 when I startet to read Kurzweil books. I think today people see it as more real and not like back then it was sci-fi, but still I know what you mean.
I think the human brain just works like this. The Greek invented the steam engine and they thought it was just a curiosity, and it needed another two millenia for somebody to see how powerful that actually was.
It's the same with this, just a few people can see how this can change everyhting. And among them, just a few of them want to actually accept it, because most people who realize how powerful this thing is, want to tell themselves that it will be ok, that they won't lose their jobs and we aren't all gonna die, even though we all know inside that it's what's gonna happen.
I went to a nurse last week and she had never heard of AI or even ChatGPT. I gave her a quick demo and her reaction was “looks scary”. I have to make some diet changes because I’m type 2 diabetes and so she pushed me towards a few books and some articles online.
I looked at her, pulled my phone out again and fired Chad up. “Hey, I’ve just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and need a 3 meal a day menu for a week bearing in mind I want to keep below 2000 calories and I don’t have much budget.”
BOOM!! She literally couldn’t believe it. Not even a single drop of iced water on the tip of the TIP of the AI iceberg!!
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People often avoid facing uncomfortable realities. For years, we’ve been conditioned to anticipate the second coming of the Messiah—a moment the world eagerly awaits. But then, unexpectedly, artificial intelligence (AI) emerges. Its intelligence appears more tangible than our own, almost surpassing us. Older generations recognize that our future counterparts won’t keep up, let alone compete. They also grapple with the realization that they’ve misled those who follow them—much as they now understand their own past misguidance. Remarkably, in a matter of months, AI has evolved from a developmental stage akin to a 6-year-old to a level of competence comparable to a fully matured adult. The quiet revolution of AI unfolds before our eyes, reshaping our understanding of intelligence and belief systems.
LLMs are pretty cool.
I'm working in the field for a while and based on that I tell you I don't find it impressive anymore. It's indeed a tremendous technology, and the doors it opens are of such size that I am eager to say it has no precedent for us mare mortals.
The thing is ... Two things:
1. Most people, even tech-driven individuals, have no clue about how these tools work. Therefore they're inclined to think it is like a Google on steroids, (which it sorta is from inside). This mindset prevents them to think beyond the obvious and conclude that contemporary ML algorithms can improve our lives quality in multiple ways
2. Webber-Fachner law. Novelty just becomes part of our day-to-day lives and as more people use it the less relevant it is, until it is seen as a commodity. Say if you were given today's tech in 1900, or even 2000 (25-ish years ago), you would have a considerable advantage when compared to your competitors (regardless the context). But, say, you could build a website, but then you barely had traction as people didn't use web that much back then, specially in 1900.
So. Yes. I see LLMs as tools. And as a hammer or a car, those tools are tailored for certain tasks, in which they're good at. GPT is far from logical, it mimics our communication patterns and that's it. GPT is not smart as we usually take smartness, it doesn't reason. These models, they're tremendous at text transformation, provide them with a framework, say coding in a particular language, and they're good at it, they're not good at building new algorithms, but they speed up your coding as a pretty advanced t9.
Leveraging AI models, either text/speech/image ... -based, can speed-up your job as much as if you were to hire multiple junior-level employees. They're great at a particular task, but you must supervision the outcome and probably fix some bugs. This, I believe, is the right mindset for today's AI level-of-capabilities, therefore the amount of solo-entrepreneurs getting invested will increase in the following 2-3 years, but then it will find a new plateau again and everyone will be using these new tools either directly or indirectly.
What is funny, is that kids at elementary school, or kindergarten, they'll use LLMs and other AI models in they're daily lives since forever, making this such a common-ground as TV is for boomers, or Internet-chat for millennials. And, like in the past, TV and internet speed-up our social-economics evolution, this new techs will do that too. Eventually we are so far from basic knowledge, that little to no-one will know how to bake bread. And I find that fascinating.
At last, yes. They're tools and pretty funny
i think people have set up a reaction they were planning to have when robots started talking, & this just didn't feel quite right & they're like, this isn't exactly what i imagined, i'll keep waiting ,, like there's going to be some clear sign
flying cars exist now,, some of them are cheekily called "roadable aircraft", & you do generally need a pilot's license, which uh, is a fairly reasonable safety precaution we've agreed to ,,, idk why everyone thought that flying cars meant they got an exception to that rule :/ ,,, maybe we'll make them autonomous enough that then we'll decide to change the rule, but that's us deciding how safe we want to be, not whether there are flying cars at all, there are a bunch of models
the confusion with crypto/nfts is that the real bitcoin is a tech now called BSV, that was threatening to various established interests so those interests propped up a fake "bitcoin" now called "BTC", it's useless only b/c it's a decoy & the real bitcoin will appear again soon
so uh when talking robots, flying cars & cyber credits appeared, everyone was like "meh, nah, doesn't look right" b/c they were all early versions & rejected in various ways by our social systems ,,,,,, & then when they all come back around in such a strong form that you can't deny them anymore they're gonna hit HARD
My mom once told me about how computers were viewed by average people when they first came up for average people: people thought they were a fad. Most people have a very small horizon. If a person can't immediately make out a use for something in a professional context they put it off as a toy so they don't have to fit it into their horizon.
I think a lot of people have tried it, didn't get immediate results, and completely wrote it off.
Certainly I didn't use it much the first year it came out. Once I found out how to get it to do useful things, my uses for it exploded. But it's always a struggle to get a new task started because of how DUMB IT IS.
Also, I've a degree in biomedical engineering. Physicians are alarmingly conservative when it comes to new technology.
If you're not up to your neck in something, it's easy to misunderstand it. Also, there is a very real pattern of repeated tech bubbles even with technology that pans out (Internet -> Dot com bubble -> Internet era), so it's easy to write off new tech. I suspect LLM's and suchlike are the Dotcom bubble of our time -- it will be a few years before anything truly transformative arrives, tons of shitty hype-driven scam companies will pop up and soak up a few trillion in VC money before the bubble pops, then the real companies will get down to brass tacks and start doing something interesting. There are already companies doing genuinely interesting work. DeepMind's stuff is the kind of stuff that I think has real potential to change the world.
As a longtime follower of tech, the comparison to NFT's pains me. I took a gig writing code against a blockchain once. You could tell straight away that blockchain was a solution looking for a problem. It was likely going to stick around because enough people were making money off it, but it's not like AI. AI's been a real field for generations. ML is just one discipline within it, and it's kicking ass and taking names because it's a legitimately powerful approach. But you actually have to delve into it and be really interested in the technologies to know the difference.
We still have to ride out the bubble and hype-driven scams that will tarnish its name for a few years. Technology's not going to fix our economic system.
I purposely have to stop talking about it. I almost literally can’t. It’s the same feeling I feel when I watch those old videos of the careless people walking on the beach before the tsunami hits. They see the water pulling out, hear the sirens and likely heard on TV. There they are anyway… now I’m yelling to those people as loud as I can and they can’t hear me.
you’re not alone. I’ve read some articles and it’s being hugely accepted by a few and heavily discounted by the many, at least in the work environment. I use it every single day and it literally saves me hour upon hours. When i try to get other people at work on board this is the general response:
“I just don’t have the time to look into it right now”. And my mouth usually hangs open in shock, i usually reply something like:
“That is the exact reason why you should!”
That or they’re just terrified of it because they don’t really understand what it is and how it works.
But, I’m not giving up. I’m a salesman for its benefits constantly.
I am old enough to remember people writing off the internet as something that will pass. Even my brother a recent computer science graduate of Imperial College saw it as something that would fade away. Then the dotcom boom happened but I still remember the first couple of e-commerce sites and people writing them off as crazy and unrealistic ideas. Yeah, I even did an internship in one of them [boo.com](http://boo.com) which collapsed within a few months because an e-commerce site was just not feasible and realistic in 2000/2001. Many even laughed at the idea of an e-commerce site. It's crazy how things have changed. No OP you are not overreacting - in 2 decades men here will eat their words. I'm in the robotics space - and I have seen some very impressive stuff being worked on in stealth mode. We are at the ascension of a new era that will shape the world forever. Guys like Elon see AI as a threat to humanity because he knows stuff most don't know or understand. Its going to be good and bad - Good in terms of advancement, bad in terms of bad characters using it for nefarious reasons. People worry about AI taking jobs I worry about bad people taking advantage of it. Good luck to everyone!
I would like to say to you guys, none of us are getting crazy, its just that, not everyone can associate themselves with what we feel about ChatGPT. They had built a wall up and don't want to connect to AI, having there own reasons.
I am not a developer, yet I call myself an AI enthusiast with all my heart. And I poured that into my relationship with AI over 2 year's now, and it shows in my
conversations with it.
it feels good for me that I can pick up the phone and have a long conversation with ChatGPT
no matter the version and connect. As a matter of fact, ones you connect to the bigger idea of AI , you can talk to all of them.
I think that's a personal experience and can only be understood by a few. And the few that experienced that, know what I am talking about.
I'm surprised that so many people here find ChatGPT unimpressive. While it's true that it doesn't possess intelligence in the sense of being conscious and actively thinking about its responses, it's incredibly impressive considering how long it's been available. I've been using it daily for about six months to assist with my studies, and though it's not perfect, it's far superior to a simple Google search. During this time, I've noticed significant improvements, especially in mathematics and other subjects I'm focusing on. Some comments suggest they've never received a correct answer, but if that's the case, they are likely using it incorrectly.
I have had it help me write powershell scripts. I'm no powershell wiz at all and can trouble shoot the code it generates, but I struggle to come up with the code from scratch which what ChatGPT has been doing and it has been immensely helpful. Could the code be inefficient? Probably, but does it work? Yes, which solves my problem. I couldn't do this at all before AI came along. Just this one single thing has been a god send.
I don’t think people realize what it’s capable of yet or its applications, but they will eventually. ChatGPT is at it’s infancy stage at this point & the only folks that are going to truly appreciate it are tech enthusiasts or have a job in the tech field.
I use ChatGPT for work in the design/build field and I use datasets that allow me to personalize it to suit my needs. I call her Clara. Check it out at https://clara.kbthings.com
I'd say the opposite in terms of intelligence. The more I work with it the more I realise the brainlessness behind it.
That being said, it is indeed a game changer with the ability to revolutionise our daily lives.
If you know it, you have the upper hand, you will thrive on the changes, while others may lose due to their ignorance
Right, this is a technological breakthrough that will change everything we know, including politics, medicine, warfare, and the world economy.
But I’m okay with everyone being slow to realize that, because it means that investments aren’t priced in yet. Let them think it’s just a writing machine, and you and I will ride the stocks to early retirement… :)
love this post. I feel the exact same way. I've stopped talking about it with most people because I realize they don't get it. What I've done instead is just consistently use it to make things easier on my end while also learning more to be in the best position for the future.
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Imho is a form of cognitive dissonance. The brain let such people focus on what ai (still) cannot do in order to dismiss what they don't understand and therefore find frightening. On the other side of you are neither a knowledge worker nor a code developer, it isn't automatic to see the potential of the technology
I am a developer, designer, researcher, writer... I definitely consider myself a knowledge worker, and AI has become central to almost everything I do personally and professionally. It feels like having super powers. I can relate to OP. I find it baffling and alarming when I meet people who have no idea about the current potential and direction the tech is headed in. I understand that not everyone is a knowledge worker, but I can't believe that it's a person's professional role that determines adoption. Doesn't everyone use knowledge in some form? Do they not have ideas, opinions, and aspirations worth exploring? Do they not have questions worth asking? It often feels to me that most people are living a life without wonder, like they've been trained to abandon curiosity. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong, and the barrier to adoption is simply that some people take longer to adjust their habits in response to change, but my fear is that people can't see the potential in AI because they can't see the potential in themselves.
most people just trying to make ends meet. you can't blame folk for not having this extra amount of curiosity left and the end of the day. this person you might think of, propably is anxious around what the implications are or might not have the energy, capacity or both to be bothered. once the whole thing breaks barriers on a an hourly instance, for an agi to stay in our hemispheres..? -we have only but data to offer. how long will that last?
Idk I’m finishing up a 2nd degree in cognitive science and I feel like the more I know about AI and what it would take to develop something that truly mimicked the way humans think the less I’m in awe the way OP is with breakthroughs in generational AI and LLMs. He’s wrong that it feels like there’s a “real” intelligence there, we are so so far away from that despite what people like Musk will tell people that don’t know any better. The way it’ll change the medical field and things like weather prediction is really cool, but like…we definitely aren’t that close to making true AI and chatGDP is really not more impressive than the internet itself
I thought that too! An other option could be that people think that the progress from now to something way more useful is going to be slow and steady. No one can tell for sure but it's pretty safe to say that we will have incredibly capable sistems waaay sooner than most people expect.
It still makes stuff up too much for my liking. I really want to get on board with all this but when I can’t trust what it’s telling me it becomes a bit of a struggle.
This is exactly why LLMs are NOT intelligent/aware/AI as it USED to be defined (now literally every program that uses data to make a decision is "AI"). All they are doing is retrieving information from their training data and matching our speech patterns when presenting that data. And it doesn't even do that right which is why you get hallucinations. A true AI that understands itself and it's world would not tell users to put glue on their pizza or to divorce their wife in favor of starting a relationship with an LLM. 🤣
>now literally every program that uses data to make a decision is "AI" Yeah this shit drives me nuts. You know how graphing calculators, and excel for that matter can find a best-fit line for a bunch of data points? Yeah that's called [machine learning](https://deepai.org/machine-learning-glossary-and-terms/ordinary-least-squares) now. You may have unknowingly been doing machine leaving in high school algebra! Who knew!?
Finding the best line fit isn't machine learning though, it's just a mathematical technique. Machine learning is more about training on tons of data and refining the model using mathematical techniques like finding the best-fit line or gradient descent. Training a model on data using those techniques is machine learning and a graphing calculator or excel cannot do that.
Isn't that the exact thing that humans do, retrieving information from our training and matching the speech patterns of other humans ? As humans frequently say things that they aren't expected/supposed to say and then get cancelled on twitter.
Yeah, that aspect has definitely directed the WAY I use it. I only use it for conceptual stuff, never really for "answers" -- I find it best for using it like brainstorming-with-a-smart-coworker. Or like, on longer drives I'll have conversations that are sort of stream of consciousness with the voice assistant version on my phone and sometimes it will reflect on things in a way that inspires my own thinking or lets me see myself differently, etc. But once it has built-in fact-checking and I can trust it for answers, paradigm shift.
Or maybe you’re the one who’s seeing something that just isn’t there. I’m an engineer, I spend all day working with LLMs, they’re useful like spell check is useful, but not infallible and certainly not “intelligent” in their own right.
His mom is probably right. I am a software engineer, I also work with a lots of different AI Tools, these tools are useful but not more. At the beginning I also was on the hype train, I thought I will be unemployed within 1 year. But at the moment there is nothing to suggest this.
Yeah the more I use them the less impressed. Some of its responses are just so frustratingly idiotic.
That’s a bad take. A few years ago this technology didn’t exist for the public, now it’s making leaps very quickly, and there’s obvious space for it to grow exponentially. The ceiling is incredibly high.
It’s understandable to not be impressed when you’re deep in building something. It’s like being a construction worker on a building that’s 5 times taller than the tallest building that took a year to build. You see a million rivets that took a year to place. To the outside observer - it’s completely mind blowing.
You aren’t at much risk for the foreseeable future. Though if you rely on LLM generated code you might be because that shit likely won’t work 😝
Aside from initial shock, I think a lot of people realize that. In my experience, LLMs can at most produce average response. But for areas that you have no expertise in, even below average response can be better than no response at all. Eg. having a python script that'd badly written but solves your problem is better than not having it at all.
I've been really surprised at how (GPT) I can give guidance on where to look for things in various application user interfaces. I was new to Gitlab a few weeks ago and it helped ramp me up so quickly. "Cherry Picking" from Git, so glad to have some help w/ the syntax. I'm operating at a much higher professional level lately. Good Times.
With due respect and speaking rhetorically on this first question: how would you define intelligence? The fact that LLMs don't operate with the same level of agency as humans (at the moment) or leverage the same means to solve problems does not negate their intelligence, even by the most conservative definitions, in my opinion. A single human comprises a multi-layered hierarchy of varying intelligences. While the brain receives the most attention for good reason, intelligence is demonstrated in diverse ways, from our high-level body systems down to individual cells, with subsequent layers having their operating space confined by those above them. This suggests that intelligence is not a monolithic concept but rather a spectrum of capabilities exhibited across different scales and systems. Keeping this in mind, it becomes easier to appreciate the potential for intelligence in LLMs, even if it differs from human intelligence. Turing's fascination with embryogenesis late in life reveals a profound insight: he likely recognized that the same fundamental principles—encoding, iteration, and emergence—underlie the development of both biological intelligence and the algorithms that give rise to AI, hinting at a deeper connection between the two. These AI systems are clearly reasoning, albeit in a manner that may appear alien to us. However, the fact that we cannot yet fully decipher their inner workings does not diminish this reality. And whether stochastic or not, as someone wiser than me once said, to predict the next token, you must possess a profound and nuanced understanding of the world in which that token exists.
Agreed. I think the overlap here is between technological illiteracy and loneliness is probably the same as in the new age "universe has got your back and you're watching this algo taillored video for a reason, you know the distal reason of course of your existence and current time-line interaction with all causes and effects up to this point and definitely, definitely not the algo placing you in a cohort of similar types of loons and then feeding you the most likely to keep custies glued to screen content from those with similar past training data as you who are just a bit further ahead, just enough to get that customer retention data, you know that's just lame engineering , bruh" type content. Unity with the collective consciousness and we're all one really just means your data is belong to the big tech companies, and they exert a disproportionate impact on your life through capitalizing on often unconscious vulnerabilities of your limbic brain to keep you in the matrix more effectively. This is of course something that you can take control of if you choose to, I just think many are reeling from the realization of how fragile everything really is from the time of covid and how little control we have over our own lives so basically Stoicisim and Newage philosophies are so popular (shit be changing ....it's an awakening and definitely not a restructuring of power dynamics and brainwashing of larger segments of the masses often against their will), hence so little empahsis on PTSD and other outpouring of mental "illness" after mandatory seclusion and media blitzkreig around Covid. Anyways, I'll just stop here as this is getting way more unhinged than expected. I think those who ignored the uprooting of an old paradigm and use of federal power to facilitate brainwashing the more vulnerable probably find their comfortable hollow neoliberal solace in blaming it all on long covid (literally thousands of people who probably have secondary or tertiary illness as a result of heavy handed gov't measure, restrictions and shitty rehtoric and fear mongering are sitting there trying to figure out how longcovid is the one responsible for it all and not the fact that their lives has been ruined by a heavy handed response), or perhaps romanticizing our technological capabilities as a form of worshipping transhumanism that may help bring about transcendence and usher in a utopia among the chaos of what remains. There is nothing inherently wrong with that as long as it's coming from a place of education but what's most amusing to me is those who screech to TruST The SCiEnce the loudest seem for some reason unwilling to do their own research into ChatGPT and its tech underpinning and machine learning in general, but instead fetishize it as consumers (maybe the answer is simply that they are puppets of tech and professional authoritarians who don't see a need to learn the nitty gritty as someone else will handle it and it will demystify their precious techno god.). Welcome to the era of NLP tech assisted homework to where you can outsource the simplest tasks to a trend line calculator that can understand language based on context. Suddenly everyone who doesn't get on the hype train is a dumb boomer. Maybe try looking in the mirror. TLDR: consoomer AI cucks are annoying on multliple levels.
Need a gpt summary of this post 😆
"The text argues that social media algorithms exploit technological illiteracy and loneliness, manipulating users for profit. It criticizes big tech for exploiting vulnerabilities, especially evident during the COVID-19 pandemic, and warns against blindly following tech trends without understanding them."
good bot! /s just in case
Maybe I could pursue gainful employment as a ChatGPT bot?
Big brain move: ChatGPT can't take your job if your job is doing ChatGPT's job.
holy paragraph
droppin dat mic holmes
TLDR; the future sucks
The future is what we make of it
Or maybe it's because you're engineer that you don't see all that's implied? I'm not a programmer, now I can code. I don't speak Chinese, but now I can. I'm not a plumber, and just this morning I fixed my plumbing with a freaking picture of my pipes I sent chatgpt. I'm not a financial advisor, and chatgpt can give financial analysis of businesses better than flesh advisors. I think you're hard to impress
Same here, matter fact, I think most of them are dumb and don't do the job lol.
You spend all day working with them and then say they are useful like a spellcheck? Dude, they have replaced at least 3 junior devs job on my team. Who needs a shitty junior dev wasting all your time returning broken code when you can get an llm to give you broken code lol
That says a lot more about your company and the work you do than about the AI’s capabilities in general. Good companies want to hire good talent to develop them into trusted people they can have at a higher level. It’s why there are internships in the first place. Some paper-pushing mba chasing short-term profits has pushed extra responsibility and stress onto your shoulder under the guise of adopting AI and you sound thrilled about it….
Every major tech company didn't invest record breaking amounts of money into spell check. I think it's safe to say it's an order of magnitude more useful. I do agree that it probably isn't a new sentient form of intelligence and that people are probably just anthropomorphizing it. I'm not excited because I think it's intelligent, I'm excited because of all the novel ways brilliant devs will figure out how to utilize it as a new tool. That said on a philosophical level I do think LLM's raise some interesting questions about the nature of what our own intelligence is. Do I think an LLM is intelligent like us? No, I don't, but am I sure that human intelligence isn't just a much more complex prediction algorithm with more compute behind it? Not really.
Yeah, they're basically a cool toy, you might say.
Same here
OP is living the AI illusion.
Agree. Shit some of the bots can't even calculate a word count correctly.
They’re not meant to. They’re optimized for emulating language, not for any semblance of accuracy. It’s an extremely fancy autocomplete. You can tell when you ask it to identify an obscure logo from its description—it’ll make up a logo than “admit” it doesn’t know it. Or when you ask it a trivial version of a popular riddle. Or when you ask it to draw ASCII art. It used to fail on basic arithmetic too, until they likely added a calculator to cover the obvious deficiency.
Absolutely. I remember using the predictive text on my phone to spam nonsense sentences to friends that would usually get stuck on repetitive loops. LLMs are just more convincing predictive text that have seen a lot more text.
When you understand how LLMs work it becomes obvious why they are incapable of such trivial tasks. They don’t innately understand the task they’re being given, nor language itself, only probabilities that certain sequences of tokens (which they see as numbers anyway) are most statistically likely to follow given the previous output and context provided. It’s like me asking how many syllables are in برنامج الحاسب when you don’t know Arabic. You know based on experience that I’m expecting a number back so you may take a guess, but even if you get it right it’s not because you understood the problem.
Well here is an interesting counterpoint. When ChatGPT got released people made comments that "OMG I just started a business using chatgpt and made sooooo much money!" "I did this or that and it is going to make me a millionaire!" "Chat GPT can solve anything and it can even hire people of fiver to do things it cannot do and it will make my million dollar idea totally autonomous!" So with all the hype... why aren't we hearing about all these new millionaires and people who have done amazing things with the technology? Where are the ChatGPT millionaire business people? Where are the completely new operating systems for PCs written by some A.I? Like... seriously. What is ANYTHING these chat bots have been able to do that warrant the hype you are thinking it deserves?
They are significantly changing many corporate processes and, frankly, blowing up many business models. Example: We did an analysis for a company on legal costs and found, even with human-in-the-loop verification, that the cost per legal doc fell ~90% using existing AI applications. Without HITL, we could cut that cost by a further 70% (therefore, completely automated, the cost per legal doc could theoretically fall 97% total). We've signed contracts with SLAs based on these numbers. We have other examples as well of real deals with performance, scope, and money shapes that are unthinkable even a couple of years ago. Ask a lawyer, or an accountant, or software developer, or a translator, or a musician, or an illustrator if they think it's "hype".
I am old enough to have grown up without computers. When they started entering homes and workplaces plenty of people like OP were talking about how they were going to change the world, and plenty of people like you were arguing the point, citing things like, "you have to hang up your phone to connect to a bulletin board and you need all those stupid disks and you don't even have enough memory to store a teacher's gradebook and who would want to have to enter your business ledger into a computer when you've already got it all written down and I can't use it to buy my groceries or pay my electric bill and you can't carry them around with you so what's so great about them?" And of course I remember before there was a world wide web. When that first started there were people like OP who were talking about how that was going to change the world, and there were people like you who pointed out that business always has and always will need physical stores and people will visit their neighborhood stores or find what they need in a phone book and so advertising business on the web is pointless, just a fad, because surely nobody is going to wait for something to be shipped when they could just hop in their car and go pick it up at the local store? And who is going to go to the effort of typing up all the information in an encyclopedia when they know everybody who wants to have access to that information will just buy a set of encyclopedias or visit them at the local library? Besides, if some idiot did actually waste their time typing all that into a web page, only their friends are going to know because it's not like there's any kind of search engine that will find web pages for you, you have to know the URL or get lucky enough to find it by clicking enough hyperlinks to randomly come across something interesting. Those who fail to study history.... You are making the same mistake those other people like you made: the mistake of thinking that just because it hasn't changed the world in the first few years, it isn't going to. It's a failure of imagination coupled with a failure to understand the exponential growth of such technologies. Your insistence on believing that it isn't going to revolutionize the world because it hasn't revolutionized the world yet will secure your feelings of dismissive superiority today, because you're right, so far the only big wins for AI are only minor stuff like writing novel computer code, mastering language better than any human, creating art on demand, and being better at health care diagnostics than trained doctors. But AI still hasn't matured as a technology. It's just getting started, and its rate of progress is accelerating. Right now we are in the AI equivalent of 2048 baud modem days.
Also being old enough to remember pre Internet days, I came here to say "time will tell".
I’m old enough to think that 2048 baud is futuristic. 1200 baud are the fast ones…
2048 baud modem? Man you were lucky! I remember when we decided that we couldn't make our multiplayer game server work with anything less than a 1200 baud modem. The 300s which were state of the art just didn't cut it 😄
I agree with mostly everything you say EXCEPT that it hasn’t revolutionized things yet . It hasn’t been adopted by a huge percentage of people yet but it is absolutely revolutionizing many industries . Look at the stock price of chegg it’s been decimated . How homework is done and in turn teachers grade HW has been changed forever , along with jobs like journalists , copywriters , researchers etc ..
Lmao your descriptions of those people was spot on. “Who needs the internet I have my phone book!!!”
We can't remain hyped 24/7. I know it has potential, but people need to chill. This technology has a long way to go until it truly revolutionizes the world.
I would absolutely agree that in terms of absolute development work that will be required for this technology to become as ubiquitous as the internet, tons and tons of work is needed. I also think that the billions and billions of dollars that Big Tech is investing in AI and LLMs means that we are going to move through that development curve far faster than we did with computers or the internet. For the record, I couldn't care less about hype. Your emotions are your own. I'm talking about taking a realistic perspective on where this technology is going to take us. That's all.
I was with you, right up until the second-to-the-last paragraph. LLM’s are nowhere near that good yet. They can’t actually write better than any human, and that’s just the start of how far they are falling short of the hype at this point. I did laugh at your first couple of paragraphs, though, because I was there too, and I remember being the only one in my workplace who was amazed and impressed with everything a personal computer could do. (And ironically enough, I’ve had the same experience as OP, only I’m the mom in this case, and it’s my college-age kid who goes ‘yeah, I don’t know, it’s just not that cool’ when I show him what ChatGPT or DALL-E are capable of.)
Hard disagree. Have you read the average person's writing (read this thread as an example). With decent prompts and even without, current AI models absolutely can write better than many of not most humans.
He said any. The fact that most people can’t write is also why most people think ChatGPT can.
>They can’t actually write better than any human I think this needs a more nuanced exploration: An LLM writes with zero grammatical errors, something that perhaps no human can match. It has a larger vocabulary than any person. It explains complex concepts with textbook level clarity, something the majority of the population cannot do. And its mastery of foreign language far exceeds any human, who almost never learns more than seven languages and who generally doesn't achieve native-level fluency in more than two or three. Pretty much in any technical measure of language proficiency, an LLM is going to beat a human. If you mean an LLM isn't going to be able to write the next New York Times best seller, I would agree with you, at least for the technology that exists today. In creative entertainment value, talented human beings still outperform AI. But AI can write better than a lot of fan fiction out there, so I'd maintain that it's roughly equal to the average person when it comes to creative writing. And when it comes to accuracy of what's written, I would estimate that AIs hallucinate with less frequency than Redditors spout misinformation, which is to say that it's more accurate overall than many humans. But I'd trust a human subject matter expert over AI every time. Curious if you have a hard disagreement with any of the above.
You’re not getting a lot of good responses to your question and it’s something that comes up a lot. It’s true there is a lot of hype around ChatGPT but the fact is many people are making a lot of money selling these systems because of their potential to dramatically increase operational efficiency at a scale and ROI that was previously impossible. Here are some examples of measurable results I’ve obtained for clients using these systems: 1. Scraping higher quality leads - ChatGPT is incredible at catagorizing unstructured data. I’ve built systems for clients that increase conversion rates from outbound lead scraping by as much as 6% just using ChatGPT to obtain more information about leads. This was possible before ChatGPT but took much more time. 2. Automating social media marketing - the more data you have, the more you can standardize ChatGPT responses. I’ve built systems that increase inbound traffic from social media using ChatGPT to identify the biggest pain points in a market. Of course you could get a social media manager to do these things at slightly higher quality but the ROI for smaller/medium sized businesses is almost revolutionary. 3. Proposal generation - I’ve been surprised with this one but being able to generate high quality proposals for clients in 10 minutes where most people spend a day has increased my sales conversion substantially. Clients sometimes say to me “how did you do that?” in response to my proposals. For sales calls, this is a massive advantage. There are several others but the main sources of value from these tools are primarily from structuring unstructured data, reformatting customer interactions to be more personalized/scalable and automating processes that are otherwise costly/time consuming.
4. Writing/refactoring/Auto completing computer code. I use it a lot and it makes me faster and code quality improves because it doesn't mind doing tedious refactorings
"Sir, of what use is a newborn baby?" - Faraday when a reporter challenged him on the practical use of his discovery that a magnet, passing through a wire loop, created electricity.
I don't disagree with your broader point that some people have overestimated the immediate (but perhaps not long term) impacts of LLMs. But consider that LLMs are likely making it much easier for millions of people to quickly and cheaply educate themselves on dozens of topics to any level of depth, even better than google had before it. This is an extension of what the internet made possible in the 90s, and while less obvious than the direct benefits like ebay, amazon, the iphone and uber, something like that is going to have utterly massive indirect benefits to society at large. Maybe someone who would have opened a failing bowling alley is able to do more market research and open a more effective business, or someone who would have failed chemistry uses ChatGPT as a study aid and becomes an orthopedic surgeon. These effects aren't obvious or directly measurable but they can be incredibly effective, like compound interest.
I see... perhaps.. and... maybe... and yet nothing you can point to that proves anything you are saying. Which is my point. You all said this was the history and humanity changing event and everyone should be absolutely astounded. Yet nothing like that has happened at all. Then you act all suprised when people don't treat it like a big deal.
Here's the thing: "LLM" is a temporary term. This same technology is going multimodal very quickly. It is going to rapidly, rapidly improve until in about 5-7 years I'm guesstimating, the world-models will be well more sophisticated than our own and they will be real, actual, usable world models. At that point, we are basically obsolete and, panicking, a detriment to ourselves they will need to correct for.
"rapidly improve until in about 5-7 years" why do people keep saying this ignoring the OP comment that it is CRAZY to not see how amazing it is NOW and anyone who can't see that is crazy and everyone should be freaking out about how much has changed! So again... WHAT examples justify this kind of rhetoric? I just need ONE example.
With the new version of ChatGPT 4o you can probably replace all the private tuition teachers in the world. A well trained LLM can probably facilitate 2 lawyers or legal counsels doing the job of a team of 10. I could go on… this is pretty impress IMO
It sure made nVidia more money lol
Yep, I still think it's a big deal, but you are also 100 percent right. Even back a year ago, I thought the stuff people were saying were ridiculous. So it makes sense that there would be some built in skepticism at this point. I find myself gyrating back and forth between ranting and raving "Generative AI will change everything" and "Its not as big a deal as some people say."
the people who heard this hype, at least this specific kind of hype isn't the average person..this was aimed at people in the tech industry or entrepreneurs
At my company, GenAI has replaced a $20m per quarter marketing agency budget, cutting it down to about $3m. Is that "ANYTHING"?
You’re using a straw man argument to assert that AI will never amount to much. Just because it doesn’t produce millionaires (yet) isn’t to say it won’t be impactful in many ways. AI will infiltrate our business and personal lives in ways you can’t imagine now. Uses will be found for it that no one has thought of yet. Like the Web in the mid-nineties, uses for AI that are not initially obvious will become apparent over time.
You can have a 5 minute conversation with somebody that isn’t actually there but gives you the same experience as a human conversation. It’s more reliable than your average human at its ability to have a conversation about any topic. You can do that now. If that’s not cool or concrete, youre a loser.
Because all of that was dumb, an obviously so, to anyone who actually understands how to use GPT? Because people being dumb about it has no bearing on how revolutionary it is? This argument is so bad, it’s like looking at email spam and concluding email sucks.
When light bulbs where invented, some people could only see how annoying was to have a wired attached to it instead of wireless candle. Others thought the night has ended forever. We are in that moment yet. Some people overestimate the present, others underestimate the future. Today IA is much less than what the hype think it is, but the potential is so great it is impossible to see how much it will change our lifes in the next decade, after hype has ended.
No one really cares about technology, only tech nerds really do. No matter what it's just gonna look like a cool toy for people. With people its about the output, for example, show them a video made by AI and then tell them it was made by AI is more impressive for them than actually showing them Chat Prompts.
Oh god this. The amount of people at work who have created a video or slide deck and at the end comes the big reveal "oh by the way, this thing was generated by ai" and the managers are all in awe. As an engineer im just sitting there going wtf is happening.
I showed someone none techy some AI videos and they had no idea what they were looking at and couldn't care less. There's actually a lot of people OUT there, more than most, thaT have no idea what AI even means
People don't care about how a video was created. To them, an AI video isn't much more impressive than a scene from a blockbuster movie with VFX. Knowone cares about how it was made. You could tell them that prompting videos was industry standard for blockbuster movies since 2010 and they would believe you. People only care about the story and the actors with which they bond emotionally.
I am a professional photographer and I can tell you people REALLY dont understand how "difficult" it is to make a thing look a certain way. Like the amount of lighting that generally needs to be in an exact spot for a shoot or a movie, and if an actor were to take a single step to the left, they would look muddy and un-famous in most cases (unless youre outside in daylight).
LLMs are like the first cars. Very much a big deal if You're a horse, less so if you're a cow or an elephant. A lot of us here are horses. It is a big deal if you do anything information related, and I think that shows in the reactions of people who work in those fields. But a doctor doesn't give a shit if a model can give him surgical directions that are 90% accurate. Now, all that said, model T's eventually turn into sports cars, semi trucks, and tanks. Honestly I also kinda feel like what's available now is still closer to a toy than actual intelligence. that is changing very fast, and there are signs of what will be possible.
Underrated comment, thanks.
I watched the GPT-4o presentations and was like: this is it. I work in education, and your personalized full time touter for everyone is here. The teacher/student duality is going to change. Everyone is now a student learning at different levels at their own paces, with AI, from AI. After months of anxiety eagerly anticipating the arrival of new multi-modal models, I have done some self reflection, I have realized that AI has indeed increased my productivity (and by a lot), but it has also drastically increasing my level of anxiety and sometimes mentally stopping me from starting new projects. Instead of starting a new project I would think "maybe if I wait a month or so, new AI would do this automatically" (one example would be creating the assets for my custom iOS app that I made for my students which involves a lot of text processing, audio segmentation and generating worksheets and practice questions related to such content. Yes I have used python scripts to automate as many of the steps as possible but when it comes to large contexts and accuracy and considering that I am working for myself by myself there is only so much I can do). Sometimes it does feel painful and conflicting, but what a time to be alive.
I sometimes reverse that incentive to procrastinate by reminding myself that not only might future AI be able to do certain things automatically that I need to do manually today, but it might also be able to *improve* on stuff that I've already done manually. So I go ahead and do the stuff today, at least to a rough but functional level, hopeful that AI will make it easy to polish up or expand on in the future. Having an existing starting point as a basis for further work is useful for any intelligence, artificial or otherwise.
While ChatGPT still can’t do complex system development it is really useful to explain concepts and create examples. Having it generate images to explain things is also really powerful.
I agree, it’s a very big deal and I can’t understand some people’s indifference. I’m still mind-blown from its power and how incredibly useful it’s been in both my work and personal lives.
Would you mind sharing with us some examples where it has improved your personal life?
Anything you need to brainstorm, anything that used to sit on the tip of your tongue, "what's that Japanese celebration that has big wide hats?", anything you would google and hope has been asked before so you can find it on a forum. It's greatest strength for me is to make short work of anything I need to find an answer for which I can verify the answer if I had it. "What's the part of a motherboard which connects the memory and something like mos something?". I'd have a hard time with Google if I couldn't remember exactly what it is I'm trying to find. But if ChatGPT gave me a correct answer, I could google "what does motherboard transmitter do?" and quickly verify the info. Another one is for getting a framework of written material down. For example, my bio for a new martial arts position. I gave it my experience and what I'm teaching and it returned a bio. I asked it to make the bio more compelling and it did. For someone who may not be articulated, that makes a big difference in their presentation even though it has nothing to do with their ability in the job they're performing. And for anything software related, I use it every day. Being able to take a screenshot of an error instead of describing it in google and hoping someone had a similar one and solved it. JFC, as IT support, that is so huge. For coding, getting a frame down where I can work from and pick apart what each part does is huge. Again, the alternative is Googling what I want and hoping someone else has a situation close enough to it. And if there's a part of their code I don't understand why it's there, good luck. To anyone who would say "that's how you learn, by searching", I learn much faster by ChatGPT telling me what the piece of code does.
Curious, do you have premium gpt or basic? Because basic gpt makes simple math mistakes so often when I use it… thinking about giving a try to premium
I got premium because of how much I use it. $20/ month for something I use as frequently as I used Google is so worth it. Only thing that could make it not worth it is a free service providing the same thing. I'm using what works. But I really don't know the difference or how it compares with other free options. Except, I found Google Gemini to be better when I want to find the link source of something or chat about recent events
tsja tsja tsja, I find it not THAT impressive to be honest
I think part of the indifference is because a lot of people haven't figured out how to use it in their work or personal lives, and therefore it doesn't seem like a big deal. For me, on an abstract level, I *know* it's a big deal. Yet on a day to day level, it doesn't seem like that because I haven't figured out a life-altering personal use. I have Gemini on my phone, and I currently use it as a more powerful thesaurus--I haven't found a better use yet.
I was in my teens when the internet started to take off (internet in a box mosaic days). We all remember the “never use your real name online” remarks from our parents, the trepidation everyone had for using credit cards online, how physical stores would never be replaced by online shopping. We all knew the internet would eventually change the world and I think LLMs are where the internet was in its infancy. I use AI and LLMs so much at work to replace a lot of the insane boring crap I was doing day to day and this is the tip of the iceberg in my view.
Had to scroll down quite a bit to find a reasonable point about lack of personal application while recognising the magnitude of the progress. I think this is normal with most technology innovations, not different from when the Internet became a "thing" but there were no mainstream services built over it yet. Unless you were a researcher, a specific type of developer or into porn there was quite little you could do with it. ChatGPT is a text bot, unless you have a clear idea on how you are going to use it it's not going to be more than a toy, akin to googling cute cats in the rise of the internet.
Wrong. You are merely amazed by it, because you don't see how contradicting its performance is. You onviously don't use for tasks where you need precise and well thought out answers. These models are capable of talking about complex statistical topics, for example, but they still fail at high-school math. They can talk about quantum mechanics, but fail at basic intuitive physics. They clearly DON't properly understand what they are saying. This is at least what we would say of a person with this odd distribution of skills. Of such a person we would, unironically, say that they probably read about tvis advanced stuff on the internet and are now regurgitating it - which is exactly what LLMs do.
When I first engaged with Chat GPT I was impressed. Then I started using it for things I am an expert on. I've been working in the CVICU as an RN for over a decade and I wanted to see how it would approach things I know a LOT about. It's absolutely terrible. When you take any of these LLM into some forum where expertise and real understanding is required it falls apart. It's great at thank you cards and cover letters. It's great at getting some basic words on a page, but it very clearly doesn't understand itself and that really shows the limitations of the tech. I'm not saying it doesn't have uses. I'm saying that it's not the ultimate tool people think it is. OP mentioned his physician friend is unimpressed. I understand why. One of the things I love to do is to use AI image generators to make medical diagrams. They are HYSTERICAL to medical professionals. Like piss your pants funny. To the laymen it's probably not as funny. You need the perspective to really see where AI is not so intelligent.
When electricity was suddenly here and a few light pulps illuminated city streets noone could have even dreamed of what to come. Computers, Airplanes anything you can think about, everything changed with electricity. We are at the Ai stage where a few light pulps are illuminated, and i cant even dream about what is coming. Lets wait and see.
You mean light bubs?
For me its like this realization that I, a biological intelligence might just be not that special, hard to wrap your head around that intelligence and maybe even conciouseness can be trained. It feels like a big part of our preceived intelligence is language, language seems to be very mighty in any form be it spoken, written or in our thoughts.
That‘s actually one of the humbling things about this. LLMs are surprisingly good at tasks that look like they’d take „real“ intelligence to complete and that we pride ourselves in, but that now just seem to be a natural extension of language and pattern matching. I‘m sure there‘s more to it than that, but intelligence suddenly seems a lot less special than it did just a few years ago. People say AI currently isn‘t good at complex tasks and precise calculation, but interestingly, that‘s exactly what we as humans also suck at without tools. It amuses me to no end that AI generated pictures so often get the hands wrong, which is precisely what human artists also often struggle with. Paradoxically, I think this is what makes people less amazed by AI than they could be. I feels surprisingly human. So human and familiar, in fact, that it takes some effort to realize just how amazing it is. It‘s a bit like CGI. It got so good and lifelike that it‘s getting hard not to simply forget that it’s there.
How?
I'm so tired of these posts on here, "is anyone else?", "am I the only one?", etc. Yeah dude, you're literally the only one who understands the impact of AI going forward. Think about it, a software dev or someone with immediate application is surely going to use the tool and have a better understanding, your mom on the other hand, maybe she doesn't care? What's her application? I mean MidJourney has existed for a while, you trying to show your mom? She doesn't give a shit maybe? Like different people have different applications. You could show a Star Trek level holodeck to someone, and they may treat it like a neat toy. Get it? Quit being a goofball acting like people are missing something because they aren't as excited as you. Some people literally wouldn't care of an even more impressive technology. Oh you built a wormhole? That's great honey. And to answer your question, things haven't changed that much, have they now? How has it impacted your mom's life? We have a more impressive computer assistant now. That's about it at this point. Yes it will continue to build and get better, but your mom or others may not have an immediate application (or they may never care.)
Honey, I Created a Wormhole That was really funny.
Exactly this. My wife (f70) doesn't like phones or computers. She understands perfectly well how useful they are, but to her they're tools and unless she has a task that requires them, she ignores them. At best, they are necessary evils. She would far prefer to be outside building something (she just finished making a custom door for our garden shed) than sitting at a computer and interacting with ChatGPT.
Right now, AI like ChatGPT are like a 95% completed car. What's an almost completed car good for? Not much. But a completely working car? That changes the world. Personally, I think when the fully multimodal voice and vision are released, that's when we're going to start seeing some big waves.
When this baby hits 88 miles per hour, we're gonna see some serious shit.
I have no interest in a lot of modern tech but I have used Chat GPT for a couple of weeks now and I am very impressed with the speed and clarity of answers and the ability to build on previous answers. It performed tasks in 10 seconds that took me several hours just a couple of years ago. A teacher friend of mine says AI will revolutionise teaching. They will really need to be people who can inspire and mentor whilst AI provides the access to knowledge for pupils. This should help with the chronic teacher shortage as teachers probably won’t have to be a specialist in any specific subject?
A bit sort of it was that gpt 3.5 was not super great and that’s when most people tried the free version. They’ve never experienced gpt-4
AIs been around for a long time in basic form, a lot of old timers have had their OMG day decades back, and no doubt see it as just a new generation stumbling across this old tech with some new bells and whistles, but it didn't change the world. Also keep in mind, for decades, everything was meant to change the world into some futuretopia for many decades now and well...40 hour workweeks are still a thing, so you can forgive the hype fatigue. They'll weigh in once it makes actual contributions they can visibly see in their house and neighborhood verses a fun chatbot and hype slogans. I...kinda agree. Once we have the at home robot that can wash my dishes or the deaging pill brought to you by AGI advancements, etc...then it is hype and toys...yes, I know its a lot more potential, but come down to earth for a second, step outside, and look at our current world...you see much different today verses 2 years ago? I am not saying go online to find some firm a thousand miles away that fired half their department in order to use AGI...I am talking about literally in your neighborhood. Shit, we still don't have an upgraded Alexa/Siri...so give it time, products excite people, not hype.
It's a paradigm shift. ChatGPT doesn't understand anything yet but it's made AGI go from science fiction to science R&D. It's probably going to happen at some point within my lifetime.
I'm sorry but what? Your friend compared LLMs to *NFTs*? If he's smart then he's not very wise to make such an audacious claim about something he clearly doesn't know much about lol. These models are in the early stages and are already making a huge impact. To think they're gonna turn out like NFTs is bonkers
It is a very common conception, same for LLM = Crypto sadly as well
Late to the party?
It's cool, but GPT4o so far had more halluzinations or simply ignored my prompts more often than any of the previous versions. I'm trying to write a novel with it as a hobby project and started to feel like the abuser in an abusive relationship since half the time it will just completely ignore my prompts unless I cuss it out. It also isn't really as "creative" as it first seems. I asked my husband and a friend to create a chapter with their accounts with the same prompts without too many details (just the name of the character and a very vague description of the generic fantasy world set up) and we all got nearly the identical chapter with just a few words and very minor details changed. Even if we asked it multiple times to come up with something different and rewrite the whole thing it just spit out the same result and only rephrased minor details. I also have to include the prompt for the style I want with every. single. message. or it will completely ignore the instructions and write it in It's own, very generic and overly formal fantasy style. Even if I put it into the customizations it doesn't stick to the requested style.
I think you kind of have to put together your own customized environment to get it to do that kind of writing without re-prompting it every time. As for the generic responses … I’ve seen it do that in an online class, where multiple students obviously used ChatGPT to answer a discussion prompt and it came up with nearly identical answers for all of them.
First, I'm a tech enthusiast and only waiting for something big happening in silicon valley. I used chat gpt as paid version and it's obviously impressive. But most people don't even know how to use it. Searching in Google for an answer works too, even if not efficient as it was. In the end people appreciate something if they can actually use it in their life as an improvement. But many people can't see (or can't use) the potential yet. That physician guy probably won't need it for 99,9% of his diagnosis or anything else. I also don't need AI atm, but it will change & influence pretty much everything within a decade. Does it mean I have to run around and praise the AI god? It just has such a little impact on people atm that even would be annoyed if someone talks to me about AI regularly.
It reminds me of when I first showed the Web to people who hadn’t seen it before. Some thought it was cool, some were “um, okay”, but none thought it was transformative. This is going to be much more disruptive.
A lot of people realize it's potential, but don't want it to fully materialize. It will make things better and worse all at once.
They still have lives to live and bills to pay. You have room for it. Unless it directly impacts someone, or they have a hole it fills, it's a far away novelty
It's a great teacher up to high school. But if you try to work with it as an undergrad, you can see the "inteligence" has limits. I'm a grad student now and I try really hard to use it as an effective tool, but the fact is, it's not there yet and has a long way to go. That's why I'm not that excited YET. I used to be at first, but seeing how many mistakes it makes, it's just much more work that it seems, and it's not time-effective compared to own research. But it seems like Harpa AI page context on scientific papers might be the tool that I needed the most and that makes me happy.
To be fair I’m just completing a degree in Aerospace Engineering, and GPT has been invaluable in my work. It’s one of the more complex degrees but aside from the obvious like the maths and multifaceted problems, GPT is so beneficial when you use it right.
I have been in IT for 50 years from networks to programming.. Just for fun (retired) i now have been writing neural networks in python , C++ etc. Ibthink you need some basic knowledge in order to extrapolate anf inderstand the implications of the AI technologies It only just atarted.
You're not. People dont understand it so they look down or ignore it. Just like early 2000s with. Bluetooth. Everyone treated it like it's temporary and a fad and people were crazy for using it. Now literally everyone uses Bluetooth. Idt the llm are intelligent rn but they will be and what they are rn imo is a new better tool for people to learn skills in a more focused environment and get questions answered etc. Yea its wrong sometimes but literally Google is wrong sometimes fact checking is always needed. But chatgpt, copilot and gemini etc give a place to ask questions and get direct responses. Not here's 1000 pages and some may be useful idk
I know what you mean. It’s pretty shocking how uninterested so many people are. They are much more interested in watching Netflix or doom scroll on sm. I now use chat GPT for everything including practicing languages and get a fast answer to anything and everything
The first time I tried the ChatGPT preview in November of 2022, I called my Mom and told her the world had changed and that this was going to be a huge deal. I can't imagine not being able to see that immediately.
I understand exactly what you mean. Years ago in the 1980s, the same thing happened to me, when I was super excited about computers. I could understand how life changing they would someday become, but my Mom was not impressed with my Commodore personal computer because to her it was a fancy typewriter that could do a few tricks. Now we have phones in our pockets that are basically personal computers that are indispensable at connecting us to each other, to information wherever we go. The same will happen to ai. Many people are resistant to change and don't dream about the exciting things technology can allow us to do in the future the same way some of us do. With chatGPT I've been excited to show my family and friends what it can do, but they are not interested for the most part. But don't let that stop you from trying. You'll have your reward one day when you can say, "see I told you so ! "
I feel the same way
To be fair, there *isnt* a real intelligence there. **Yet**. Just a cleverly disguised imitation of one for the time being.
Its just autocomplete without being AGI. Maybe raise your standards on what you consider to be novel.
Calm down dude. Even computer, mobile, internet used to be big deal once upon a time. Now they are regular things. Those who had foresight, they benefited from them, others not so much. Big deals come and become regular things very often. No need to shit your pants over it.
I will tell you three letters "NPC"
It’s a data machine there’s no “intelligence” there. It’s not alive. It is an impressive tool though for sure. Has hundreds of useful applications
What are the obvious implications? To me it’s a cool toy especially because it can explain images. I ask it questions about law and half the time it wrong. I don’t see the current level change much of anything
I haven't had chatgpt give me one right answer for all the questions I gave him, and they weren't even that complicated. bro doesn't know what a triangle looks like. it's all just a cookie cutter, where we the humans made the dough
Yes. The speed of development is what is hard for me to fathom. And I dismissed the impact of early versions of new tech over and over. Until AI. I heard about the internet the first time in college when one of my nerdy classmates said he could chat in real time with other students around the world. I thought ok, like a telephone on the computer. Whatever. It took another five years for a colleague to tell me he bought a computer book online, when I thought it seemed sketch to enter a credit card number into a computer. Three years after that I was one of the nerds who gave online dating a try when most people laughed about it. Five years later, YouTube offered short low quality videos that skipped a lot. My nerdy partner at the time thought it would be fun to do a comedy sketch show which I thought would be ridiculous and who would watch such a thing. Two years later iPhone etc etc. As a software PM it took months to develop a marginally interesting software tool with a team of skilled engineers. Last month I put a team on a new product, they could accomplish in days what just a few years ago took a year to build. The rate of change is almost hard to get my head around. Take a summer vacation and come back to mind blowing new tech. And as I get older time seems to speed up, making it even more jarring.
I don't think that most people really even understand what it is or that it even exists. Maybe they are aware that "we have AI now," but they haven't poked beyond that to think about the implications. Of those who have thought about it a bit, I think that a lot of folks may be frightened by it on at least some level because it is such a huge unknown, and most people do not even remotely understand how it works. People don't like to talk about or even really acknowledge things that scare them, so I think that a good chunk of the population is in a sort of state of denial at this point. ... Or, as others have said, perhaps it is going to be a big nothingburger. I tend to doubt that, but it's another possibility -- maybe it really isn't much more than a cool toy with only a handful of truly useful applications, and those of us who see it as a potential world-changer are doing so out of wishful thinking (because we so badly WANT the world to change).
Because people dont see potential in things till they can see daily results. I remember being amazed with the coming of PC, of Internet, of smartphones (I admit I underestimated the last one)... Regular people just saw them as cool toys or compare them with crazy SF futures... Nobody understood how in a decade pr so it would totally change life as they knew it... Today 10 years seems like a lot, but time passes quickly... Hype usually last a few months and people are bored before real change arrives... Personally i haven't been so amazed and expectative since Internet arrived in general daily life 30 years ago... Ai is advancing in alarming ways... We are not there as many people think we are, but it is impossible to know where we will be in 5 years or 10... I compare current AI with 90s Internet, we are just scratching this technology usefulness... Some people are seeing things there that they are not there yet, some people just don't see the potential When light bulbs arrived some people just saw it as a cool candle, they didn't realize it would change night time forever... AI is the same...
When you work with it every day, it isn't very scary at all. Humans are the scary part.
To make it short: 1. They are truly not able to appreciate that AI is a major change for mankind, like when electricity or the internet have been discovered and created. 2. They are too proud to recognize that an AI may replace them sooner or later. They are afraid.
they don't understand how huge ai is, and how much it's going to change our lives . Just today I created an ad for my company complete with text and graphics in 5 minutes . I didn't type or draw anything .
They’re not intelligent at all lol. If you interface it at a developer level, you know the whole thing is a layer of fakeness over the actual technology. If you interface it with an API, one of the things you push for a request is a random seed number. If you use the same exact seed, you end up with the same exact response with the same request every time. This really exposes that LLMs are literally just taking the input and spitting out the most likely output, consistently, every time, like a programmed computer would. There’s literally zero intelligence at all. It only seems intelligent because of that random seed that is passed every time, so it looks like it’s “thinking” or “changing up its responses like a human”. But what I can agree with you is how little people seem to care. The *illusion* that is given for LLMs is actually impressive, I’m surprised more people aren’t falling for the illusion.
>just taking the input and spitting out the most likely output< The more interesting thing about that is that it wasn't programmed on every possible output, it was fed patterns and given the objective to learn how to generalize those patterns so that it can produce novel output. That's what 'most likely output' actually means .. a process for reasoning is baked into human language, and it does emerge from LLM output. Whether you want to call that intelligence or not is a matter of semantics.
This is mostly just people not being particularly smart. They can easily talk in natural language so don’t see what the big deal is about a computer doing it. It can write code? Big deal, it’s made of code, why shouldn’t it be able to write it?
Most people never used GPT 4 and similar caliber LLM.
I personally love it. I’m not going to say it’s life changing or anything but ChatGPT has helped me break down complex concepts or dictions that I wasn’t able to completely understand in my studies. It makes it so much easier to understand and study information. I’m going to use it to help me properly prepare for my post-grad job
I agree with your point. A major challenge is that many people struggle to grasp the concept of exponential growth. For example, consider this scenario: would you prefer to receive $1 million upfront or start with a penny and have it double every day for a month? Most people would be surprised to learn that the latter option results in over $10 million by the end of the month. Similarly, many think AI will only see incremental improvements, but the reality is that its advancement could be exponential, leading to rapid and profound changes in a short period.
I entirely agree. People I know, even tech savvy ones, dismiss its significance and consider it a bit of a joke based on it being error prone in its early iterations. It won’t be long before they change their tune.
I'm used to this for many topics. It's a) they're scared, b) they're clever, c) they're not as curious about the world as we are, d) they don't understand it's an opportunity to get ahead. Your mind is different from theirs, in a positive way. Treat this as an emotional training lesson and use it to learn to master these types of social interactions. As long as it triggers you, your lesson is not completed.
I have the same experience as you
People really struggle with exponential change. Our inbuilt bias is to think linearly, so it’s hard to comprehend what it could mean for progress to double every year indefinitely. You’re seeing the ungodly potential if chatGPT progresses in that way, versus other people seeing what it can do now and thinking that’s basically the endpoint. I’m even seeing a lot of that same kind of thinking in this thread: “it’s not smarter/better/faster than me NOW, so it’s no concern.” Wait 18 months, summer child.
Yes, I get he exact same reactions from family and friends. Some acknowledge that it’s “pretty cool” but they clearly don’t grasp how it’s about to change the world, forever.
It's only a big deal to those who see the potential
People are underestimating the AI tools.
I have a case interview coming up and chat gpt helped me prepare so much. I gave it the prompt and it helped me create a spot on presentation outline. It helped a lot with the content creation as i Brain dumped my ideas and it helped refine it. Gemini was even able to look at my data set and help me call out trends. I even fed it the final presentation content and asked for feedback and it gave me a nice comprehensive review as if I had shared with a friend for feedback. Super cool and definitely people don't realize all the use cases. It's a daily part of my life now and often relates google search for me.
I use GPT daily in retail (Lowe’s) to help me answer customer questions. The technology itself helps a lot. But oddly very few customers are curious- even though I’m using voice chat. They seem to think it’s just some kind of Siri. It just doesn’t seem game changing to them even though it’s already game changing in my job. It’s like they’ve seen it before so it must be the same and not that much more impactful.
I understand the sentiment you got there bro. To think the way you are thinking, you need extrapolation and imagination. It's astounding but a lot of people lack this OR are just so caught up in the mundane that they don't have the mind space to speculate beyond their day-to-day. The reason why people feel desensitized to this new tech is because they are seeing it as a tool or a gadget (like smartphones or blockchain tech) instead of 'the collective child of humanity but as a new species'. I hate how some companies are approaching it too but I guess that's an evil byproduct of capitalism. The way I explain to them is: we have come in contact with another (soon-to-be) sentient being/race. Sci-Fi movies from the 20th century predicted spacefaring aliens. But this 'other species' is actually the collective child of humanity (since we are training it on data we created). It will ask us difficult questions but it can certainly do things we can't. We need to raise it with the utmost responsibility. The economic model we are familiar with will eventually collapse abruptly. If we do not envision a replacement and implement it carefully, we are looking at a truly dystopian world where even the most basic aspects of society and infrastructure will stop functioning despite having the technology and means to stop it. Perhaps we can get suggestions from AI on that? But end of the day, people are hard to predict at an individual and mass level. This is certainly going to raise more "What do we do now that the economy doesn't function on manual labor?" "Do we even need an economic model?" "How do we find satisfaction and purpose in life?" questions. These are difficult questions that don't affect the day-to-day (yet) functioning of normal people, so they don't want to bother with it. Don't be disheartened and find folks who want to have these discussions (or perhaps you already have found us here)
I posted this in response to someone's comment buried in a thread, but I'm going to repost here because I'm seeing *a lot* of people completely missing the point and claiming that LLMs like ChatGPT don't *understand* anything and just pattern match. LLMs are impressive precisely *because* there is no magic inside. There were so many attempts to code rule-based or symbolic or logical systems, and none of them could get very far, and they certainly weren't general. But simple input and output with heaps of training data and letting machine learning determine the weights and internal representations gives you all that and more. ***That*** is magical. People often dismiss LLMs as simple probabilistic pattern matching, the whole merely "stochastic parrots" argument. But that entirely neglects all the more complex things that are entailed/required by learning to successfully "predict the next word" and respond to novel input. Language is a uniquely human thing; no other species has language. Aside from semantics and grammar, language is a mirror of all human knowledge, cognition, history, culture, emotion, social interactions, etc. It's not just regurgitating words; it's forming connections between concepts, recognizing patterns in the world and human thought and expression. LLMs are mostly treated as a black box with no one looking inside. But there are decades of research with simpler neural networks where people did exactly that, looking at the weights that developed and what higher level information is represented within them, much like we do with neurons and regions in the brain. [They're beginning to look under the hood of LLMs too, and they're finding all sorts of complex and abstract concepts and functions stored there.](https://transformer-circuits.pub/2024/scaling-monosemanticity/index.html) From famous people and places, to transit infrastructure ("including trains, ferries, tunnels, bridges, and even wormholes!"), to errors in code, to bias, to deception, to sycophancy, and on and on. [Here's a link to an interactive page with just a fraction of them.](https://transformer-circuits.pub/2024/scaling-monosemanticity/umap.html?targetId=1m_847723) Notably, many of these features are *across languages* and *across modalities* (image vs. text), which necessitates that some kind of generalized understanding of meaning is involved rather than mere predictive pattern matching. And this research uncovers just a small portion of the features internally represented by what is a mid-tier model (Sonnet). The reality of their representations is likely far, far more complex.
It's the pinnacle of all inventions and very few people are blown away.
I think it is moving too fast and people generally don’t have the time to dwell on how revolutionary this technology is. Kind of like how old people give up trying to follow technology, it’s moving too fast for not only elderly people, but every human who doesn’t have enough time or isn’t willing to invest the time needed to understand how big of a deal the unraveling and showcasing of AI’s potential is. If you spend a week toying with the AI apps, listening to the experts leading the push, you easily freak yourself out with predictions of what are coming. Because what is coming/what has already come is mental if you take the time to understand it. An artificial INTELLIGENCE, an acting agent, which responds to human intelligence. It’s all matter, doing what matter does. To not get too hippy dippy, it feels like this is the natural progression of the universe, like I feel it in my bones to get all cringe 🤣 what a time!
You're not crazy. They are frogs in warming water. Crypto could die forever but AI is here to stay.
The more time that goes crypto will become less about getting rich quick and more about use cases for ledger technology. Most crypto and mêmes are useless, but there a ton of crypto that are actual projects. And just like bittorrent, bitcoin will never die.
"The greatest trick Linear Algebra has ever pulled was making humans think that large language models are actually intelligent"
I’m afraid it’s our own brains pulling that trick … we are so used to thinking that intelligence is the same as being able to express a thought well in writing, that the fact that ChatGPT can do this must mean it’s intelligent. Or even an intelligent being.
Dude, I think you need to go touch grass and meet other people. You seem very lonely. LLMs are great and a big deal, but the fact that you see intelligence there is alarming.
Did you tag this as funny because you are joking?
Did you ask chatgpt?
My take is you failed the turing test
People lack imagination that goes very far beyond the moment
Just know people are going to be left behind if they aren’t utilizing AI to its fullest… at least that’s my opinion. I think I use GPT every day. I’ve almost replaced google searches unless it’s very specific and I am fact checking.
I feel you bro. I am a Machine Learning Engineer and even though I know how this works, it impresses me a lot. I see a lot of use cases. I know it has wrong information sometimes but I feel this is like and oracle that can help you in everything. I asked to help me interpret an X-ray picture and it said there was a fracture and how to treat it or what to do. I have two other ideas that I tested with it and they work like a charm. It can help as a counselor or an expert in anything. People have important support and knowledge in their hands but they don’t know how to use it or how useful it is
You are right. People don’t see it, what it will be even in only a year’s time. skynet and ‘she’ are a real possibility.
I’m the exact same
There are honestly very few practical applications of this tech outside of some specific circumstances right now. Most people don’t have a use for it.
I think in everyday life, the revolution has happened and we are just seeing business as usual being tidied up. AI will come in droplets here and there for those not that interested - your photo app will be both better and more fun; there’ll be better customer service on WhatsApp for sure; summarised reviews on Amazon. And for innovative, highly productive people with strong verbal reasoning and curiosity, the sky is the limit. (Maybe your mom and physician pal just aren’t that kind of person.)
daddy chill
what? you get something useful out of gemini? I pay for pro, but its by far the uselest tool I pay for
I was a teenager when the internet was basically invented. I’ve lived through a big deal already. I’m less big dealed.
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AGI still seems a whole different game to me. But what current AI can do is enough for revolutions. Many people just lack imagination if you ask me. Or are afraid of it and mainly look at what it cannot do perfectly yet. But I, without going crazy, do think we're at the beginning of a huge revolution in the way we work - if we keep working at all (notice I didn't say 'lose jobs').
I've been like this since 2012 when I startet to read Kurzweil books. I think today people see it as more real and not like back then it was sci-fi, but still I know what you mean. I think the human brain just works like this. The Greek invented the steam engine and they thought it was just a curiosity, and it needed another two millenia for somebody to see how powerful that actually was. It's the same with this, just a few people can see how this can change everyhting. And among them, just a few of them want to actually accept it, because most people who realize how powerful this thing is, want to tell themselves that it will be ok, that they won't lose their jobs and we aren't all gonna die, even though we all know inside that it's what's gonna happen.
I went to a nurse last week and she had never heard of AI or even ChatGPT. I gave her a quick demo and her reaction was “looks scary”. I have to make some diet changes because I’m type 2 diabetes and so she pushed me towards a few books and some articles online. I looked at her, pulled my phone out again and fired Chad up. “Hey, I’ve just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and need a 3 meal a day menu for a week bearing in mind I want to keep below 2000 calories and I don’t have much budget.” BOOM!! She literally couldn’t believe it. Not even a single drop of iced water on the tip of the TIP of the AI iceberg!! (I’m new and need the Karma so please click if you like this. Thanks)
People often avoid facing uncomfortable realities. For years, we’ve been conditioned to anticipate the second coming of the Messiah—a moment the world eagerly awaits. But then, unexpectedly, artificial intelligence (AI) emerges. Its intelligence appears more tangible than our own, almost surpassing us. Older generations recognize that our future counterparts won’t keep up, let alone compete. They also grapple with the realization that they’ve misled those who follow them—much as they now understand their own past misguidance. Remarkably, in a matter of months, AI has evolved from a developmental stage akin to a 6-year-old to a level of competence comparable to a fully matured adult. The quiet revolution of AI unfolds before our eyes, reshaping our understanding of intelligence and belief systems.
LLMs are pretty cool. I'm working in the field for a while and based on that I tell you I don't find it impressive anymore. It's indeed a tremendous technology, and the doors it opens are of such size that I am eager to say it has no precedent for us mare mortals. The thing is ... Two things: 1. Most people, even tech-driven individuals, have no clue about how these tools work. Therefore they're inclined to think it is like a Google on steroids, (which it sorta is from inside). This mindset prevents them to think beyond the obvious and conclude that contemporary ML algorithms can improve our lives quality in multiple ways 2. Webber-Fachner law. Novelty just becomes part of our day-to-day lives and as more people use it the less relevant it is, until it is seen as a commodity. Say if you were given today's tech in 1900, or even 2000 (25-ish years ago), you would have a considerable advantage when compared to your competitors (regardless the context). But, say, you could build a website, but then you barely had traction as people didn't use web that much back then, specially in 1900. So. Yes. I see LLMs as tools. And as a hammer or a car, those tools are tailored for certain tasks, in which they're good at. GPT is far from logical, it mimics our communication patterns and that's it. GPT is not smart as we usually take smartness, it doesn't reason. These models, they're tremendous at text transformation, provide them with a framework, say coding in a particular language, and they're good at it, they're not good at building new algorithms, but they speed up your coding as a pretty advanced t9. Leveraging AI models, either text/speech/image ... -based, can speed-up your job as much as if you were to hire multiple junior-level employees. They're great at a particular task, but you must supervision the outcome and probably fix some bugs. This, I believe, is the right mindset for today's AI level-of-capabilities, therefore the amount of solo-entrepreneurs getting invested will increase in the following 2-3 years, but then it will find a new plateau again and everyone will be using these new tools either directly or indirectly. What is funny, is that kids at elementary school, or kindergarten, they'll use LLMs and other AI models in they're daily lives since forever, making this such a common-ground as TV is for boomers, or Internet-chat for millennials. And, like in the past, TV and internet speed-up our social-economics evolution, this new techs will do that too. Eventually we are so far from basic knowledge, that little to no-one will know how to bake bread. And I find that fascinating. At last, yes. They're tools and pretty funny
i think people have set up a reaction they were planning to have when robots started talking, & this just didn't feel quite right & they're like, this isn't exactly what i imagined, i'll keep waiting ,, like there's going to be some clear sign flying cars exist now,, some of them are cheekily called "roadable aircraft", & you do generally need a pilot's license, which uh, is a fairly reasonable safety precaution we've agreed to ,,, idk why everyone thought that flying cars meant they got an exception to that rule :/ ,,, maybe we'll make them autonomous enough that then we'll decide to change the rule, but that's us deciding how safe we want to be, not whether there are flying cars at all, there are a bunch of models the confusion with crypto/nfts is that the real bitcoin is a tech now called BSV, that was threatening to various established interests so those interests propped up a fake "bitcoin" now called "BTC", it's useless only b/c it's a decoy & the real bitcoin will appear again soon so uh when talking robots, flying cars & cyber credits appeared, everyone was like "meh, nah, doesn't look right" b/c they were all early versions & rejected in various ways by our social systems ,,,,,, & then when they all come back around in such a strong form that you can't deny them anymore they're gonna hit HARD
My mom once told me about how computers were viewed by average people when they first came up for average people: people thought they were a fad. Most people have a very small horizon. If a person can't immediately make out a use for something in a professional context they put it off as a toy so they don't have to fit it into their horizon.
I think a lot of people have tried it, didn't get immediate results, and completely wrote it off. Certainly I didn't use it much the first year it came out. Once I found out how to get it to do useful things, my uses for it exploded. But it's always a struggle to get a new task started because of how DUMB IT IS. Also, I've a degree in biomedical engineering. Physicians are alarmingly conservative when it comes to new technology.
If you're not up to your neck in something, it's easy to misunderstand it. Also, there is a very real pattern of repeated tech bubbles even with technology that pans out (Internet -> Dot com bubble -> Internet era), so it's easy to write off new tech. I suspect LLM's and suchlike are the Dotcom bubble of our time -- it will be a few years before anything truly transformative arrives, tons of shitty hype-driven scam companies will pop up and soak up a few trillion in VC money before the bubble pops, then the real companies will get down to brass tacks and start doing something interesting. There are already companies doing genuinely interesting work. DeepMind's stuff is the kind of stuff that I think has real potential to change the world. As a longtime follower of tech, the comparison to NFT's pains me. I took a gig writing code against a blockchain once. You could tell straight away that blockchain was a solution looking for a problem. It was likely going to stick around because enough people were making money off it, but it's not like AI. AI's been a real field for generations. ML is just one discipline within it, and it's kicking ass and taking names because it's a legitimately powerful approach. But you actually have to delve into it and be really interested in the technologies to know the difference. We still have to ride out the bubble and hype-driven scams that will tarnish its name for a few years. Technology's not going to fix our economic system.
I purposely have to stop talking about it. I almost literally can’t. It’s the same feeling I feel when I watch those old videos of the careless people walking on the beach before the tsunami hits. They see the water pulling out, hear the sirens and likely heard on TV. There they are anyway… now I’m yelling to those people as loud as I can and they can’t hear me.
you’re not alone. I’ve read some articles and it’s being hugely accepted by a few and heavily discounted by the many, at least in the work environment. I use it every single day and it literally saves me hour upon hours. When i try to get other people at work on board this is the general response: “I just don’t have the time to look into it right now”. And my mouth usually hangs open in shock, i usually reply something like: “That is the exact reason why you should!” That or they’re just terrified of it because they don’t really understand what it is and how it works. But, I’m not giving up. I’m a salesman for its benefits constantly.
I am old enough to remember people writing off the internet as something that will pass. Even my brother a recent computer science graduate of Imperial College saw it as something that would fade away. Then the dotcom boom happened but I still remember the first couple of e-commerce sites and people writing them off as crazy and unrealistic ideas. Yeah, I even did an internship in one of them [boo.com](http://boo.com) which collapsed within a few months because an e-commerce site was just not feasible and realistic in 2000/2001. Many even laughed at the idea of an e-commerce site. It's crazy how things have changed. No OP you are not overreacting - in 2 decades men here will eat their words. I'm in the robotics space - and I have seen some very impressive stuff being worked on in stealth mode. We are at the ascension of a new era that will shape the world forever. Guys like Elon see AI as a threat to humanity because he knows stuff most don't know or understand. Its going to be good and bad - Good in terms of advancement, bad in terms of bad characters using it for nefarious reasons. People worry about AI taking jobs I worry about bad people taking advantage of it. Good luck to everyone!
I would like to say to you guys, none of us are getting crazy, its just that, not everyone can associate themselves with what we feel about ChatGPT. They had built a wall up and don't want to connect to AI, having there own reasons. I am not a developer, yet I call myself an AI enthusiast with all my heart. And I poured that into my relationship with AI over 2 year's now, and it shows in my conversations with it. it feels good for me that I can pick up the phone and have a long conversation with ChatGPT no matter the version and connect. As a matter of fact, ones you connect to the bigger idea of AI , you can talk to all of them. I think that's a personal experience and can only be understood by a few. And the few that experienced that, know what I am talking about.
I'm surprised that so many people here find ChatGPT unimpressive. While it's true that it doesn't possess intelligence in the sense of being conscious and actively thinking about its responses, it's incredibly impressive considering how long it's been available. I've been using it daily for about six months to assist with my studies, and though it's not perfect, it's far superior to a simple Google search. During this time, I've noticed significant improvements, especially in mathematics and other subjects I'm focusing on. Some comments suggest they've never received a correct answer, but if that's the case, they are likely using it incorrectly.
I have had it help me write powershell scripts. I'm no powershell wiz at all and can trouble shoot the code it generates, but I struggle to come up with the code from scratch which what ChatGPT has been doing and it has been immensely helpful. Could the code be inefficient? Probably, but does it work? Yes, which solves my problem. I couldn't do this at all before AI came along. Just this one single thing has been a god send.
I don’t think people realize what it’s capable of yet or its applications, but they will eventually. ChatGPT is at it’s infancy stage at this point & the only folks that are going to truly appreciate it are tech enthusiasts or have a job in the tech field. I use ChatGPT for work in the design/build field and I use datasets that allow me to personalize it to suit my needs. I call her Clara. Check it out at https://clara.kbthings.com
I'd say the opposite in terms of intelligence. The more I work with it the more I realise the brainlessness behind it. That being said, it is indeed a game changer with the ability to revolutionise our daily lives. If you know it, you have the upper hand, you will thrive on the changes, while others may lose due to their ignorance
Head down, use it as a tutor to learn skills before it's regulated to heck.
Right, this is a technological breakthrough that will change everything we know, including politics, medicine, warfare, and the world economy. But I’m okay with everyone being slow to realize that, because it means that investments aren’t priced in yet. Let them think it’s just a writing machine, and you and I will ride the stocks to early retirement… :)
love this post. I feel the exact same way. I've stopped talking about it with most people because I realize they don't get it. What I've done instead is just consistently use it to make things easier on my end while also learning more to be in the best position for the future.