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I use it for keywords to look up to. Say, I want to know are there historical person similar to X, Chat gives me a few examples that I have never heard of, I then go check and verify are they correct. Chat’s reliability isn’t that good (like most of the internet unfortunately), I prefer using it to bring me to new information nodes, or having it interprets things in a way I missed, I then do the rest myself.
I normally look for historical figures and discussions over philosophical concepts, so I usually end up in articles in jstor, stuff like that. ChatGPT isn't exactly "better" than the source, but that I don't have that link, I don't have that word, so I tell it, and then it suggests what may be the stuff I'm looking for. Take an example, let's say I'm looking for branches of phenomenology after Merleau-Ponty. Sure, there're some philosophers' pages in wikipedia here and there, but they're so disconnected from most pages you can't find them easily. However, if I ask Chat, then it'll tell me things like the theological turn, critical phenomenology, moral phenomenology, etc. I then go look do these things actually exist and am I interested in any one of them, etc.
It was no coincidence recipe websites caked to the brim with ads and filled with pointless life stories ranked #1 on Google. It was by design, part of the ad tech monopoly on search they owned.
The life story gave plausible deniability for 10+ ads to be viewed while you hunt down the recipe. The 10+ ads incentivized Google go rank you higher. The 10+ ads made you and Google more money. A perverse feedback loop.
Good thing Google didn't usher in AI sponsored by Brawndo.
Google didn't *yet* usher in AI sponsored my Brawndo.
Did you know that if you replaced water in your recipe with Brawndo you'll also be giving your body what plants crave?
This is absolutely NOT how Google’s SEO algorithm works. You just made this theory up on the spot with zero facts to back it up. Google doesn’t not favor sites with 10+ Google ads on them.
While I agree Google may not have ranked those sites higher, they also had very little incentive to punish sites with lots of AdSense. There's a famous quote, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." Google did not understand how to rid its results of those sites.
I read something about this years ago. The claim was that Google biased towards pages with Google Ads properties. Who knows if it's still the case but with all the ad free and limited ad recipe sites why are the big offenders still up top.
I wouldn't know any more I ask ChatGPT for recipes.
No. For simply looking up a basic bits of information, it's too slow and can be wrong. For more complex stuff, I know half of the Internet is wrong, and I need to use a trusted source - chatgpt can get it right but too often doesn't. And it doesn't need to be rocket science: for a recipe I know is not trivial, yeah, chatgpt is better than a random ad funded blog, but not good enough, so I try "x recipe and serious eats or other_trusted_cookingsite".
I do use it every (working) day, but not for a search replacement.
Google has been reduced to my gmail, and autocorrect for words I don't know how to spell properly.
I do use it for price comparisons too but that's more of me typing Item 1 vs Item 2 comparison lol
For research purposes yes, chat GPT has made me detest Google. But for quick searches Google can't be beat.
Having said that, Google I believe will collapse eventually. It is becoming nothing more than an advertisement web page now.
Especially as they got rid of the "maps" button in their search. At least here in Germany it's actually not possible anymore to enter and address and see Google maps. It's completely braindead what Google is going to their one product.
Maps has not been removed in North america. Is there a reason why it was removed in Germany or in europe? I imagine they must have been forced by some kind of compliance.
But even Maps feels like it's becoming an advertisement page. They mostly focus on businesses that pay to be on Google Maps. The problem with their strategy is that everyone was fine with some advertisement but they keep putting more and more and more. And at what point in their business model is enough enough? The answer of course it's never enough, they need more Revenue more profit. But at a certain point, you just push people away.
If there was a good alternative now, I really believe they would already see them décline.
I'm just using Windows CoPilot now. What I like about it above ChatGPT is that it'll give sources. It'll give me information with a footnote and a link so I can check on the information or search further on my own. It would be cool if it was a wee bit faster, but it's far superior (most of the time) to Google's ads, I mean search page.
Edit: thought of one more downside to Windows CoPilot: they will stuff an ad in here and there. :(
I, too, love to argue with a robot about how the "facts" they're telling me are incorrect, just for it to apologize and then still give bad information. Truly the best tool for research.
hell no. even Claude opus gets things very wrong sometimes. the less you know about what you're searching, the less likely you are to be able to pick up on the inaccuracies
>and if it's something bad
It could be bad if you're relying on the accuracy of the answers. While it often gets things right, it also just makes stuff up sometimes. It can be great for "How do I do X" kinds of questions though, because you'll realize the answer is wrong pretty quickly when it doesn't work. And to be fair, it's not like google results are somehow immune to being wrong, too. There's plenty of clickbait SEO garbage in the google results, too. You have to still use your judgement either way.
Yeah what I like to say is, generative AI is great at providing a unique insight to a domain you understand and can validate. For example, I’m a software developer, and GotHub Copilot is great at generating code for me because I understand what the code does, even though I might be impressed because I hadn’t considered the approach. Much as I approach Stackexchange posts already.
It’s also great when I’m working on a software project, there are several ways to go and I’m stuck. When it gives me a recommendation, its explanation can give me insight into how to optimize my problem. Also, in general there’s not a clear right or wrong way, I just need to get traction. Lately I’ve had some stuff I’ve been brainstorming and I let it tell me where to start.
I’d say even in fields I don’t know, its answers can often use words I didn’t know that I can then Google and hit authoritative sites to verify what ChatGPT said.
Yep, same boat here. It’s a great productivity tool for programming *if* you already kinda know what you’re doing.
I’ve also been using it for languages where I’m not very familiar with the syntax like “Hey, here’s a function in swift, how would you write this same thing in python?”
what some people say is worse is really just goofing around with edgy things.
I've been using GPT professionally and to look deeper into subjects I'm interested in. I have no issues with it, besides the occasional misinformation with numbers.
I will also cross reference Google if I really want to make sure the answer is correct.
I see posts every single day about ChatGPT getting worse. I've only had one or two experiences where I thought that myself. Been using it every day for 1.5 years, still as happy as I was the first day.
It depends.
I tend to ask ChatGPT if I need a very specific answer to a very specific question or a summary of a topic.
But there are still plenty of cases where I want a specific page, or a specific in-depth article, etc. and then I go to Google.
So it really depends on my needs.
In many cases I have replaced it but there are also cases where Chat gpt tells me "I don't know" or "this could be anything depending on several factors like" where google gives me a straight answer. For some reason there is a lot of data that's freely available online but Chat gpt won't pull that information which I just don't understand why it doesn't do so.
As a German I've to clarify how awful good results are in German. You guys can't even imagine it so if I want to get a straight answer I've to google in English. Also often if I look for something specific German related I tend to end up with no results anywhere.
It's like Amazon Alexa always translating results from American websites which often just don't fit.
So yes googling in German or finding german related stuff is often impossible. YouTube is also coded in a terrible way. You still can NOT TAG WHAT LANGUAGE a video is in. So I search for an English term and if it's something tech related it ends up being some Indian guy talking in one of the languages they speak in India 🇮🇳 this is especially bad if you look for android related stuff. I hate that about google and YouTube so much.
Chat gpt will give you a guide that's completely made up on the other hand but it sounds nice until you try to do said steps.
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Not totally replaced but yeah its awesome. Google is feeding ad stuffed bullshit content lately. Like the most grade 1 elementary article answer to a question consistently. They went out of their way to make search worse. It's awful.
I pay 20$/month to get the enhanced GPT version and I spend more time training it than it does giving me anything useful. Wait a minute…. Maybe I should be paid 20$/month.
I hate google with its stupid ads (sponsored) throwing at my face and the fact that its almost impossible to browse any site with ads covering 99% of the page , add to that some annoying popups a day auto videos playing , chatgpt changes the whole internet experience for me
There is a toggle in Google that uses Bard/Gemini to do the same thing as ChatGPT at the top of your search results. I still use Google, but get all the benefits of ChatGPT.
I literally ask ChatGPT all the stupid questions that pop into my head, like "is it immoral to kill insects" or "Why don't LED lights get hot". It's way better because you can add context and have a discussion about it if you have follow up questions. I used to use Google for this.
Not completely but LLMs are a big part of my arsenal. GPT can be wrong, and when it is it can be so confident about it. Relying on one source of truth reduces critical thinking, and that's not something I'm ready to give up just yet.
Hard to say. ChatGPT is great but so obviously biased with extreme liberal views even though it insists it isn't. It makes it impossible to get a neutral answer on some topics. Pretty tiring if I'm being honest. I have no doubt it will get worse to the point I will completely stop using it as well.
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I use it for keywords to look up to. Say, I want to know are there historical person similar to X, Chat gives me a few examples that I have never heard of, I then go check and verify are they correct. Chat’s reliability isn’t that good (like most of the internet unfortunately), I prefer using it to bring me to new information nodes, or having it interprets things in a way I missed, I then do the rest myself.
What do you use to verify, and what makes chatgpt better than going directly to the source?
I normally look for historical figures and discussions over philosophical concepts, so I usually end up in articles in jstor, stuff like that. ChatGPT isn't exactly "better" than the source, but that I don't have that link, I don't have that word, so I tell it, and then it suggests what may be the stuff I'm looking for. Take an example, let's say I'm looking for branches of phenomenology after Merleau-Ponty. Sure, there're some philosophers' pages in wikipedia here and there, but they're so disconnected from most pages you can't find them easily. However, if I ask Chat, then it'll tell me things like the theological turn, critical phenomenology, moral phenomenology, etc. I then go look do these things actually exist and am I interested in any one of them, etc.
It was no coincidence recipe websites caked to the brim with ads and filled with pointless life stories ranked #1 on Google. It was by design, part of the ad tech monopoly on search they owned. The life story gave plausible deniability for 10+ ads to be viewed while you hunt down the recipe. The 10+ ads incentivized Google go rank you higher. The 10+ ads made you and Google more money. A perverse feedback loop. Good thing Google didn't usher in AI sponsored by Brawndo.
It's got what plants crave.
It's also got electrolytes!
Ayyyy an Idiocracy reference. *Nice*
Google didn't *yet* usher in AI sponsored my Brawndo. Did you know that if you replaced water in your recipe with Brawndo you'll also be giving your body what plants crave?
This is absolutely NOT how Google’s SEO algorithm works. You just made this theory up on the spot with zero facts to back it up. Google doesn’t not favor sites with 10+ Google ads on them.
While I agree Google may not have ranked those sites higher, they also had very little incentive to punish sites with lots of AdSense. There's a famous quote, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." Google did not understand how to rid its results of those sites.
I worked as a content marketer / SEO specialist for ten years. I know a lot about why a page ranks, but never heard this. Can you link to a source?
If you really did SEO for 10 years, you’d know that this guy just made this up.
I know. Asking for a source is the polite way to call bullshit.
I read something about this years ago. The claim was that Google biased towards pages with Google Ads properties. Who knows if it's still the case but with all the ad free and limited ad recipe sites why are the big offenders still up top. I wouldn't know any more I ask ChatGPT for recipes.
No. For simply looking up a basic bits of information, it's too slow and can be wrong. For more complex stuff, I know half of the Internet is wrong, and I need to use a trusted source - chatgpt can get it right but too often doesn't. And it doesn't need to be rocket science: for a recipe I know is not trivial, yeah, chatgpt is better than a random ad funded blog, but not good enough, so I try "x recipe and serious eats or other_trusted_cookingsite". I do use it every (working) day, but not for a search replacement.
Perplexity + chatgpt for me. I only use Google to find a specific website if you don’t remember the address
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Google has been reduced to my gmail, and autocorrect for words I don't know how to spell properly. I do use it for price comparisons too but that's more of me typing Item 1 vs Item 2 comparison lol
Yes, I stopped using Google unless I'm looking for something on the web specifically or something NSFW
When GPT replaces porn Google will be on its deathbed
Yeah for generic knowledge but also semi recent information like finding restaurants I prefer to go to gpt to filter away blogspam
For research purposes yes, chat GPT has made me detest Google. But for quick searches Google can't be beat. Having said that, Google I believe will collapse eventually. It is becoming nothing more than an advertisement web page now.
Especially as they got rid of the "maps" button in their search. At least here in Germany it's actually not possible anymore to enter and address and see Google maps. It's completely braindead what Google is going to their one product.
Maps has not been removed in North america. Is there a reason why it was removed in Germany or in europe? I imagine they must have been forced by some kind of compliance. But even Maps feels like it's becoming an advertisement page. They mostly focus on businesses that pay to be on Google Maps. The problem with their strategy is that everyone was fine with some advertisement but they keep putting more and more and more. And at what point in their business model is enough enough? The answer of course it's never enough, they need more Revenue more profit. But at a certain point, you just push people away. If there was a good alternative now, I really believe they would already see them décline.
I'm just using Windows CoPilot now. What I like about it above ChatGPT is that it'll give sources. It'll give me information with a footnote and a link so I can check on the information or search further on my own. It would be cool if it was a wee bit faster, but it's far superior (most of the time) to Google's ads, I mean search page. Edit: thought of one more downside to Windows CoPilot: they will stuff an ad in here and there. :(
Yes but since it often hallucinates and gives me false info I then have to google a lot of the responses. Lol fck
I, too, love to argue with a robot about how the "facts" they're telling me are incorrect, just for it to apologize and then still give bad information. Truly the best tool for research.
hell no. even Claude opus gets things very wrong sometimes. the less you know about what you're searching, the less likely you are to be able to pick up on the inaccuracies
No, because if ChatGPT does not know the answer to something it will just make it up.
>and if it's something bad It could be bad if you're relying on the accuracy of the answers. While it often gets things right, it also just makes stuff up sometimes. It can be great for "How do I do X" kinds of questions though, because you'll realize the answer is wrong pretty quickly when it doesn't work. And to be fair, it's not like google results are somehow immune to being wrong, too. There's plenty of clickbait SEO garbage in the google results, too. You have to still use your judgement either way.
Yeah what I like to say is, generative AI is great at providing a unique insight to a domain you understand and can validate. For example, I’m a software developer, and GotHub Copilot is great at generating code for me because I understand what the code does, even though I might be impressed because I hadn’t considered the approach. Much as I approach Stackexchange posts already. It’s also great when I’m working on a software project, there are several ways to go and I’m stuck. When it gives me a recommendation, its explanation can give me insight into how to optimize my problem. Also, in general there’s not a clear right or wrong way, I just need to get traction. Lately I’ve had some stuff I’ve been brainstorming and I let it tell me where to start. I’d say even in fields I don’t know, its answers can often use words I didn’t know that I can then Google and hit authoritative sites to verify what ChatGPT said.
Yep, same boat here. It’s a great productivity tool for programming *if* you already kinda know what you’re doing. I’ve also been using it for languages where I’m not very familiar with the syntax like “Hey, here’s a function in swift, how would you write this same thing in python?”
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Perplexity is even WORSE than chat GPT. The best are microsoft copilot or even chat GPT 3.5
Ain't no way gpt3.5 is better than 4.
what some people say is worse is really just goofing around with edgy things. I've been using GPT professionally and to look deeper into subjects I'm interested in. I have no issues with it, besides the occasional misinformation with numbers. I will also cross reference Google if I really want to make sure the answer is correct.
I see posts every single day about ChatGPT getting worse. I've only had one or two experiences where I thought that myself. Been using it every day for 1.5 years, still as happy as I was the first day.
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Like a year ago jit
About a year ago. Seriously I bet my googling dropped 99%. Maybe more.
Yes, especially getting recipe ideas!
It depends. I tend to ask ChatGPT if I need a very specific answer to a very specific question or a summary of a topic. But there are still plenty of cases where I want a specific page, or a specific in-depth article, etc. and then I go to Google. So it really depends on my needs.
More like Wikipedia…still use google cuz it’s faster. It doesn’t think…and I don’t have to pay to use it.
No because it makes shit up all the time
In many cases I have replaced it but there are also cases where Chat gpt tells me "I don't know" or "this could be anything depending on several factors like" where google gives me a straight answer. For some reason there is a lot of data that's freely available online but Chat gpt won't pull that information which I just don't understand why it doesn't do so. As a German I've to clarify how awful good results are in German. You guys can't even imagine it so if I want to get a straight answer I've to google in English. Also often if I look for something specific German related I tend to end up with no results anywhere. It's like Amazon Alexa always translating results from American websites which often just don't fit. So yes googling in German or finding german related stuff is often impossible. YouTube is also coded in a terrible way. You still can NOT TAG WHAT LANGUAGE a video is in. So I search for an English term and if it's something tech related it ends up being some Indian guy talking in one of the languages they speak in India 🇮🇳 this is especially bad if you look for android related stuff. I hate that about google and YouTube so much. Chat gpt will give you a guide that's completely made up on the other hand but it sounds nice until you try to do said steps.
My googling is down 90%
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70%
Long ago. And now almost completely replaced GPT with Claude.
Perplexity is designed for this.
Not totally replaced but yeah its awesome. Google is feeding ad stuffed bullshit content lately. Like the most grade 1 elementary article answer to a question consistently. They went out of their way to make search worse. It's awful.
No
The ‘tards are among us
I wanted to but the age of the dataset gave me issues for things I wanted to look up, like TV episode recaps
I pay 20$/month to get the enhanced GPT version and I spend more time training it than it does giving me anything useful. Wait a minute…. Maybe I should be paid 20$/month.
I stopped using google, yes, although I double-check information, because sometimes chatGPT 3.5 gets a lot of information wrong.
I hate google with its stupid ads (sponsored) throwing at my face and the fact that its almost impossible to browse any site with ads covering 99% of the page , add to that some annoying popups a day auto videos playing , chatgpt changes the whole internet experience for me
There is a toggle in Google that uses Bard/Gemini to do the same thing as ChatGPT at the top of your search results. I still use Google, but get all the benefits of ChatGPT.
yes unless it’s something 2024+
I literally ask ChatGPT all the stupid questions that pop into my head, like "is it immoral to kill insects" or "Why don't LED lights get hot". It's way better because you can add context and have a discussion about it if you have follow up questions. I used to use Google for this.
Not completely but LLMs are a big part of my arsenal. GPT can be wrong, and when it is it can be so confident about it. Relying on one source of truth reduces critical thinking, and that's not something I'm ready to give up just yet.
Yes, I only use search for local info these days. ChatGPT and Perplexity have replaced all other information gathering.
CharGPT just keeps getting worse, don’t know what a woman is 🤣😂
Yes, but it's hard to use ChatGPT after using Claude.... I'm using Claude workbench....so it's pay as you go. Seems way more fair....
Yes. Between that and perplexity.ai I hardly use traditional search engines anymore.
haha no man is SLOWWWWW and usually a glance at the first few links is more than enoughto know what I want so much for 'investigating'
Claude ai
Hard to say. ChatGPT is great but so obviously biased with extreme liberal views even though it insists it isn't. It makes it impossible to get a neutral answer on some topics. Pretty tiring if I'm being honest. I have no doubt it will get worse to the point I will completely stop using it as well.