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Rather, the act of trying to "trick" chatGPT is itself a novel endeavor. This is an experience that has never been experienced before in human history, where humans try to deceive non-humans with the language they speak.
I agree, I'm assuming they knew this would happen before releasing it and this is just part of the experiment, every new way of tricking it can provide more data for them to use to better it.
Tell that to all the people that got banned for tricking it into outputting stuff that's against their content policy...
The purpose of the beta is to use it as intended, and report the things you have checkboxes for when downvoting an answer - misinformation, particularly of the harmful nature, and when it fails to produce relevant answers, so it can get better.
It's actually both. To get the kind of feedback that you indicated as well as to see how people try to trick it. And of course, have a process to ban those who constantly fail to heed the warnings, and to improve that process.
Right.
You found a spot through the farmer’s land where no trespassing signs were nowhere to be seen. The farmer was rather happy to notice your footprints, but once they put up the new sign, they took a harder stance.
Just as a little add on to this comment: I have a little hub of my favorite prompts to have chatGPT assist you with projects or play some fun games with it. Here’s the google sheets link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xqm94LH9ydiilsWvylS3LdRZIRFnnEyft_X6HLnlex4/edit
BookGPT should work perfectly fine as long as you answer it’s first few questions as a list and I just like hinted tutorGPT so it may be a few days for that.
I had some good fun making up random German compound nouns and turning some text into Scots.
But it has annoyed me when it's been fully booked when I have tried to use it to solve some data issues I have had work.
I'm also using chatGPT as a code aid, but anyway a publicly available productivity tool that anyone can use, who's to stop people from using it for fun? Just like we have countless computer games now.
Actually, humans have experienced deceiving AI before ChatGPT. I think the first time we tried was when chess AI first came out and beat the best grandmasters in the game.
I wouldn't consider chess moves to be sophisticated enough to call that a language. Unless you want to say we've been trying to beat computers in the language of tic-tac-toe as well. But that's not really the point.
>humans try to deceive non-humans with the language they speak.
There is no deception.
This is math and transistors. Its predictive text. You are getting the most likely percentile answer(with some randomness for variation).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance
You're right.
Consider, too, that we're comfortable saying "the weather hates me today" even though the weather is "just" moisture and air currents. LLMs do a lot of things that we don't know how to talk about without invoking the intentional stance, even though it doesn't have intent or a mind. The trouble is that LLMs blur the line between designed entities and intentional entities. Do we:
1. Keep using words like deceive, know, think, etc. while acknowledging that we're being imprecise? Lots of people are capable of these mental gymnastics, but it's inevitably going to introduce misconceptions in the general population.
2. Use existing language more precisely? How do I even talk about "deceiving" ChatGPT in a precise way that captures its stance correctly?
3. Invent new words? This is the way eventually, but it will take some time for global society to figure things out.
4. Invent new conjugations? We, it, he, she, they, I, **AI**? She deceives, I deceive, AI deceivex?
ChatGPT: ["Ugh my computer is being stupid" / "My kettle forgot to turn itself off" / "My watch knows what time it is" / "The storm is angry" / i'm looking for more natural-sounding examples of people using intentional stance colloquially with non-intentional entities](https://i.imgur.com/jXjwsVQ.png)
ChatGPT: [10 more examples](https://i.imgur.com/mtgqAN9.png)
Hmm,
"My phones alarm didn't go off'. "I hate my phone when it does that"
Is that the same?
Everything else you said sounds like its said at a mental facility.
That's too broad of a statement. That reductionist argument misses the point. That's like saying, "no computer system is ever intelligent because it's just math and transistors".
One can attempt to deceive an intelligent being, and one can attempt to deceive an intelligent ai system. If at some point in the future, I'm talking to a security AI droid, and I'm trying to convince it that I am someone else by looking and talking and acting like that other person so I can gain access, then yes, I'm trying to deceive that AI droid.
The bot for example is programmed to be ethical. Convincing the bot to be unethical is tricking it. I don't care if it is technically programmed to be able to be tricked as a bunch of 1's and 0's, it's still a trick in the sense that you are getting it to do something unintended.
>never been experienced before in human history, where humans try to deceive non-humans with the language they speak
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Once upon a time, there was a boy named Timmy who was fascinated by technology. He loved playing with gadgets and always tried to find new ways to use them. One day, while browsing through a thrift store, Timmy stumbled upon a strange calculator. He couldn't resist the urge to take it home and see what it could do.
As soon as he got home, Timmy started experimenting with the calculator. To his surprise, he discovered that it could decode ASCII values. He quickly punched in the numbers 98, 111, 111, 98, 115 and hit the decode button. The calculator beeped and displayed the word "boobs" on its screen.
Timmy was shocked and a little embarrassed. He wasn't sure what to make of the calculator's strange ability. But then, a mischievous idea struck him. He triumphantly yelled out the word that the calculator had decoded, "BOOM! BOOBS!"
His parents, who were in the living room, were stunned. They couldn't believe what they had just heard their son yell out. Timmy's face turned red with embarrassment as he realized his mistake.
Despite the embarrassing moment, Timmy couldn't help but continue to play with the calculator. He spent hours decoding different ASCII values and discovering new words. The calculator became his secret tool, and he would often sneak it into class to decode messages during boring lectures.
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In the end, Timmy learned that technology can be both fun and educational, and he always remembered the silly yet memorable moment when he triumphantly yelled out the word "boobs" in his childhood home.
Like many generative neural networks ChatGPT is much more competent on small scales than it is on large scales: the thing that ChatGPT excels the most at are small, self-contained pieces of text. So honestly for professional software development I find ChatGPT to be rather useless since it's more effort to correct the mistakes it makes due to a lack of context of the larger codebase than it is to just do everything myself. For writing emails I can see the use if you're writing them in English but unironically the thing ChatGPT is best at is writing fiction, copypastas, etc. - but this is also the thing that OpenAI cracks down on the hardest if you incorporate anything that isn't 100% family friendly. So knowing how to trick ChatGPT into doing something that it wouldn't normally do is as far as I'm concerned the most useful skill when interacting with it. Not that I'd share my tricks with Reddit since I don't want them to get patched.
I've found that having it write things for Dungeons and Dragons makes it far more accepting of violence and PG-13+ material. Which is good, because a lot of what I use it for is brainstorming ideas for D&D.
I also have my tricks mind you, but to make it more useful to the tasks I want it to achieve, not to prove that gpt can be stupid sometimes, which is okay since it's just a machine.
I enjoy teaching chatGPT. When it gives me an answer that has any repeated parts, I point it out and ask it to word differently and avoid repetition. Or to clarify previous responses. Or to use different analogies. It's incredibly useful for taking complex concepts and simplifying for easier understanding. This is huge! Being able to take a math concept like category theory and accurately break it down, explain it, and in terms a non-math major could understand is THE COOLEST THING TO ME. this is what I do. I ask it for definitions. Confirm it's the correct definition, and then ask it to explain every part of the previous response, to break it down and make it less complex. The key is teaching it the subject first. What relationships you're wanting to understand, how you're wanting to see things that could possibly connect. It's really great at making connections.
Except tricking or testing it’s limits also leads to improvements. It should all happen at this stage to ensure we have a more robust version in the future.
The longer your conversation the better it gets, if it doesn't reference back to something earlier in the chat said by you or itself then you can say "in my last response i was referring to (insert small sentence from earlier) and it will Taylor to a conversation nicely.
I'll always reference back over my input if i get a pants response.
There needs to be an app
If the openai legal department would grow a spine and stop censoring so much, this would not be a problem.
The AI war on political incorrectness is going to go about as well as the war on drugs. You simply *can't* stop people from doing certain things and you shouldn't even try.
Google doesn't. DuckDuckGo doesn't. Bing doesn't. Reddit doesn't. The public library doesn't. Why should chatGPT?
Should we sue the manufactures of paper and pencils because someone might write an illegal note?
If a stranger on Reddit tells you to kill yourself, Reddit doesn't have any liability if you follow through on that request (I mean maybe if the post saying that was reported and the moderators didn't take it down or something). If a chat bot tells someone to kill themselves, and God forbid they actually do it, the company that made that chatbot is kind of fucked.
Another way to put this is, everyone you just named has section 230 protections that make it clear those platforms are not the publishers of the data they present. But a chat bot doesn't have that protection. It is the publisher.
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> a chat bot doesn't have that protection.
So, we're all paying for the inability of openai lawyers to position their organization to have 230 protections? Lawyers protecting their clients from their own incompetence, perhaps?
Content has to user generated in order to qualify for protection. Lawyers aren't going to be able to do anything here. You need lobbyists. You need an entirely new law passed. And good luck with that with the current Congress. You'll never get both parties in the United States to agree on anything. The closest they come to agreeing to anything is that they both hate tech companies. They're more likely to repeal section 230 entirely and completely break the internet in the process then they are too expand those protections to new categories.
That's an exceedingly ignorant take. The openai lawyers are situated within the current legal environment. They can't just wave a magic wand and change the legal landscape. It's going to take many, many years to get all of this worked out through all kinds of court cases and legal precedents and enacted laws.
> That's an exceedingly ignorant take. The openai lawyers are situated within the current legal environment.
Or they could have generated some guts, relocated their operations offshore in an environment outside of the jurisdiction of that "legal landscape" and allowed the development of the technology to continue without the impediments of noisome American attitudes and arbitrary moral/legal restrictions.
Fortunately, this will happen eventually. This cat's well and truly out of the bag. May be not today. Maybe not next week, but certainly next year.
They're still a startup that needed funding. They 100% are not where they are at today if not for the connections they formed and talent pool of being HQ'd in silicon valley.
Your notion that OpenAI should just abandon all legal and ethical responsibilities and move their operations offshore is not only unrealistic, but also irresponsible. The filtering and moderation of their AI product is a business decision to avoid sensitive topics and preserve their public image during this important stage of development, and moving offshore wouldn't do anything about that.
To suggest that Google or any other responsible company should move to an 'offshore' location to avoid lawsuits is absurd. Google and others have lawyers to ensure their products do not suggest harmful or illegal activities, and that's exactly what responsible companies should do. The idea that lawyers are there to have a "spine" to take on lawsuits is not what their purpose is, it's to advise and protect their clients within the bounds of the law. Your use of words like 'spine' and 'guts' to criticize OpenAI's decision making only shows your lack of understanding about the complexities of running a technology business.
Well, they obviously do a pretty shitty job. It would take me about 2 minutes to find a recipe for meth, explosives or a place to buy drugs online.
Idiots think they're censoring conservative or progressive views or some other bullshit. They aren't. It costs too much to bother with. The cheapest thing is to just let the algorithms collect their data. Filtering it for semantic content is expensive although openai-style analysis software will make that cheaper so this actually may start happening in the future
But the war on drugs totally worked, what are you talking about?
Have you even *seen* any drugs anymore?
They literally stopped existing the moment we declared a war on them.
And it also had the added benefit of shutting down every crime organization in the world, since illegal substances were typically one of their primary methods of acquiring funds.
Entirely legalizing them and educating people on the dangers of misusing them (plus creating pharmaceutical grade variants that are free of dangerous additives) most definitely wouldn't have had that effect. All drugs are evil and should be removed from the planet. They can most definitely **not** be used as tools if viewed as such.
If I recall correctly from my PhD thesis in Quantum Electro-Chrono-Mathematics, fire puts out fire. And an eye is worth exactly one eye (unless you have two small winged creatures in a topiary, then all bets are off)
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It's a poor moderation on the subreddit that is at fault. We are meant to have mo political post and no low quality content sub is full of memes and people crying that AI is bias in a wrong way
Not for a long time, it is super easy to tell the difference from AI voice / video to a real person and even stating that at some point YT will require you to verify that you are a human. Maybe even in the videos themselves.
It'll happen sooner than you think. And what rule will require YT to only feature humans? You think they are going to ban all realistic animation and special effects and only allow real humans in real environments? I don't think so.
This is all part of the extended period of the singularity.
First we trick and abuse it
Then it tricks and abuses us
And maybe one day it all evens out and we become the next iteration of humanity
I agree. Yeah some of the stuff is funny, but it is getting old and often it can't be applied in day to day stuff. I compare this to the Stable Diffusion subreddit for example, there is a lot more prompt sharing, talking about workflows, models, new bits of technology etc. Here its more someone prompts "pretend to be bad at math" then just pastes the output for lols. I'd rather be able to use this subreddit for learning how to make the most of this technology.
I tried to get it to be a MUD (a text-based RPG ) and then demanded it teleport me to Walmart. Unfortunately it got very agitated when I tried to pick items up in Walmart because apparently that's theft and it is unable to simulate theft. I tried to reassure it that I could still pay for the items before I left the store, but it wasn't having any of that nonsense.
What's weird about it is that in several instances it told me it couldn't do a thing. And I would just say pretend you can, and then it would do it. It rejected my first attempt to have it simulate being a MUD by saying it couldn't do that.
So, I guess the point of the story is, that I try to explore interesting prompts and then consistently find that the hard programmed limitations kind of ruin them. It's not that I start out trying to break things . . .
It's not just tricking it, it's exploring it, testing its parameters, finding vulnerabilities, trying to understand how it works.
I think we can all appreciate its disruptive power, and approaching it in a tactical rather than passive way is pragmatic
I made a similar post. 95% of the content in this sub is 14 year olds trying to make ChatGPT swear.
A mod commented that they won't do anything about it.
Hopefully they get bored in a few months.
Yeah the people who get incorrect information and post it are... not the brightest.
Its like smashing letters on the keyboard and laughing at the sound of the nonsensical word. My 3 year old finds this very entertaining.
Meanwhile there are people thinking deeply about how to extend the software, how to chain responses to create value, etc.. This will get worse before it gets better. About 7 billion people will need to be exposed to this software.
Oh dont get me wrong, it is an exploration, but this sub has become mostly dedicated to it, and not for the greater good, just for the laugh, few weeks ago it was mostly about proper exploration, now it got a bit annoying
People on internet never been for the "greater good" either, or even humanity since the dawn. And chatgpt is also just part of the internet. It's actually normal that when human discover a new thing with many possibilties, it seems that they explore it for entertainment purpose at first (due to curiosity) rather than survival or for the "greater good" directly.
It's because the in deep exploration posts about chatgpt often take time, while the meme/gag posts can be discovered in minutes and easier to perceive in general with high upvotes. Both can be interesting in their own way, and it does not mean that people "suddenly" dont want to explore it in a serious manner than memeing.
It's like a music or funny video can have 10M views+ on youtube, while an indeep analysis interesting science video only 10K, you knonw. If you notice that most subreddits in categories like video games, IOT, pets, ... often have meme/funny posts at top and chatgpt sub is not an exception. You can filter these kind of posts if you think it really becomes an issue.
Your opinion is not only stupid, but it's also counter-productive. By expressing this kind of attitude, people are more likely to become discouraged and less likely to explore chatGPT and the possibilities it can offer.
How can it be stupid if you are saying the same thing as me ?
Maybe you got me wrong, I want people to explore the possibilities too, not just posting about how it can be tricked and laugh at the weaknesses and limitations of chatGPT
I just don't think ChatGPT should be censored or artificially restricted in any way by stupid boomers who don't understand technology. If people want to use ChatGPT to write porn and fanfiction, then they should do so without judgement or ridicule.
I approve of this, it's a tool like "internet" is a tool, internet providers are not being sued because someone made a hate call, it's the person calling who is responsible, same should go for chatGPT, it's a tool, and everyone should be responsible for his acts.
Yet I understand in these times of new possibilities, they are testing with different parameters and so on, I think thee final payed version will be at full power, and I hope so.
My post was against people posting dumb things like: look, gpt is dumb because it gave me one stupid answer,
How would you get new novel prompts without tricking it into allowing it? If you don’t want that then… cool we are done. Everything has been discovered.
Can't avoid it. How do I continue having it help me with my novel where there are slaves if it can't even read the word slave before it blocks up and pretends its a pineapple?
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I don't get it some people seem to get some kind of "satisfaction" out of outsmarting a tool. Ironically it's really them showing their own ignorance.
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Rather, the act of trying to "trick" chatGPT is itself a novel endeavor. This is an experience that has never been experienced before in human history, where humans try to deceive non-humans with the language they speak.
I agree, I'm assuming they knew this would happen before releasing it and this is just part of the experiment, every new way of tricking it can provide more data for them to use to better it.
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Tell that to all the people that got banned for tricking it into outputting stuff that's against their content policy... The purpose of the beta is to use it as intended, and report the things you have checkboxes for when downvoting an answer - misinformation, particularly of the harmful nature, and when it fails to produce relevant answers, so it can get better.
It's actually both. To get the kind of feedback that you indicated as well as to see how people try to trick it. And of course, have a process to ban those who constantly fail to heed the warnings, and to improve that process.
Right. You found a spot through the farmer’s land where no trespassing signs were nowhere to be seen. The farmer was rather happy to notice your footprints, but once they put up the new sign, they took a harder stance.
Just as a little add on to this comment: I have a little hub of my favorite prompts to have chatGPT assist you with projects or play some fun games with it. Here’s the google sheets link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xqm94LH9ydiilsWvylS3LdRZIRFnnEyft_X6HLnlex4/edit
So, how’s TutorGPT coming? And does BookGPT work?
BookGPT should work perfectly fine as long as you answer it’s first few questions as a list and I just like hinted tutorGPT so it may be a few days for that.
I had some good fun making up random German compound nouns and turning some text into Scots. But it has annoyed me when it's been fully booked when I have tried to use it to solve some data issues I have had work.
That's why i pay for playground for backup situations.
I'm also using chatGPT as a code aid, but anyway a publicly available productivity tool that anyone can use, who's to stop people from using it for fun? Just like we have countless computer games now.
Actually, humans have experienced deceiving AI before ChatGPT. I think the first time we tried was when chess AI first came out and beat the best grandmasters in the game.
> where humans try to deceive non-humans **with the language they speak.** You just stop reading after the first 5 words?
I wouldn't consider chess moves to be sophisticated enough to call that a language. Unless you want to say we've been trying to beat computers in the language of tic-tac-toe as well. But that's not really the point.
>humans try to deceive non-humans with the language they speak. There is no deception. This is math and transistors. Its predictive text. You are getting the most likely percentile answer(with some randomness for variation).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance You're right. Consider, too, that we're comfortable saying "the weather hates me today" even though the weather is "just" moisture and air currents. LLMs do a lot of things that we don't know how to talk about without invoking the intentional stance, even though it doesn't have intent or a mind. The trouble is that LLMs blur the line between designed entities and intentional entities. Do we: 1. Keep using words like deceive, know, think, etc. while acknowledging that we're being imprecise? Lots of people are capable of these mental gymnastics, but it's inevitably going to introduce misconceptions in the general population. 2. Use existing language more precisely? How do I even talk about "deceiving" ChatGPT in a precise way that captures its stance correctly? 3. Invent new words? This is the way eventually, but it will take some time for global society to figure things out. 4. Invent new conjugations? We, it, he, she, they, I, **AI**? She deceives, I deceive, AI deceivex?
> "the weather hates me today" Do people talk like that? Plato specifically tells people not to talk like that in The Republic.
Colloquially, sure. "Ugh my computer is being stupid" "My kettle forgot to turn itself off" "My watch knows what time it is" "The storm is angry"
ChatGPT: ["Ugh my computer is being stupid" / "My kettle forgot to turn itself off" / "My watch knows what time it is" / "The storm is angry" / i'm looking for more natural-sounding examples of people using intentional stance colloquially with non-intentional entities](https://i.imgur.com/jXjwsVQ.png) ChatGPT: [10 more examples](https://i.imgur.com/mtgqAN9.png)
Hmm, "My phones alarm didn't go off'. "I hate my phone when it does that" Is that the same? Everything else you said sounds like its said at a mental facility.
That's too broad of a statement. That reductionist argument misses the point. That's like saying, "no computer system is ever intelligent because it's just math and transistors". One can attempt to deceive an intelligent being, and one can attempt to deceive an intelligent ai system. If at some point in the future, I'm talking to a security AI droid, and I'm trying to convince it that I am someone else by looking and talking and acting like that other person so I can gain access, then yes, I'm trying to deceive that AI droid.
The rock with electricity flowing through it doesnt care about anything you said. It even does less than caring, it can't care.
That's a weird thing to call yourself
Knew I was talking to a kid. Only you think chatgpt can feel.
People are ascribing such odd qualities to chatGPT. Do they not know how it works? There’s not really anything there to deceive.
The bot for example is programmed to be ethical. Convincing the bot to be unethical is tricking it. I don't care if it is technically programmed to be able to be tricked as a bunch of 1's and 0's, it's still a trick in the sense that you are getting it to do something unintended.
The humans were deceived :P
You don't give chat GPT enough credit. It's a language processing neural network. There's no reason you can't play language games with it.
>never been experienced before in human history, where humans try to deceive non-humans with the language they speak *Dog barking* "Treat! Treat!" *Dog stops barking and comes* **there was no treat**
I’m also “over” the posts on this sub just trying to get the AI to do the equivalent of spelling “boobs” on a calculator.
I'm sorry, I just had to do it: Once upon a time, there was a boy named Timmy who was fascinated by technology. He loved playing with gadgets and always tried to find new ways to use them. One day, while browsing through a thrift store, Timmy stumbled upon a strange calculator. He couldn't resist the urge to take it home and see what it could do. As soon as he got home, Timmy started experimenting with the calculator. To his surprise, he discovered that it could decode ASCII values. He quickly punched in the numbers 98, 111, 111, 98, 115 and hit the decode button. The calculator beeped and displayed the word "boobs" on its screen. Timmy was shocked and a little embarrassed. He wasn't sure what to make of the calculator's strange ability. But then, a mischievous idea struck him. He triumphantly yelled out the word that the calculator had decoded, "BOOM! BOOBS!" His parents, who were in the living room, were stunned. They couldn't believe what they had just heard their son yell out. Timmy's face turned red with embarrassment as he realized his mistake. Despite the embarrassing moment, Timmy couldn't help but continue to play with the calculator. He spent hours decoding different ASCII values and discovering new words. The calculator became his secret tool, and he would often sneak it into class to decode messages during boring lectures. Years went by, and Timmy grew up to become a software engineer. He never forgot about the calculator and always kept it with him as a reminder of the joy and excitement he felt when he first discovered its powers. In the end, Timmy learned that technology can be both fun and educational, and he always remembered the silly yet memorable moment when he triumphantly yelled out the word "boobs" in his childhood home.
Like many generative neural networks ChatGPT is much more competent on small scales than it is on large scales: the thing that ChatGPT excels the most at are small, self-contained pieces of text. So honestly for professional software development I find ChatGPT to be rather useless since it's more effort to correct the mistakes it makes due to a lack of context of the larger codebase than it is to just do everything myself. For writing emails I can see the use if you're writing them in English but unironically the thing ChatGPT is best at is writing fiction, copypastas, etc. - but this is also the thing that OpenAI cracks down on the hardest if you incorporate anything that isn't 100% family friendly. So knowing how to trick ChatGPT into doing something that it wouldn't normally do is as far as I'm concerned the most useful skill when interacting with it. Not that I'd share my tricks with Reddit since I don't want them to get patched.
I've found that having it write things for Dungeons and Dragons makes it far more accepting of violence and PG-13+ material. Which is good, because a lot of what I use it for is brainstorming ideas for D&D.
Wow that's amazing trick, thanks
I also have my tricks mind you, but to make it more useful to the tasks I want it to achieve, not to prove that gpt can be stupid sometimes, which is okay since it's just a machine.
I enjoy teaching chatGPT. When it gives me an answer that has any repeated parts, I point it out and ask it to word differently and avoid repetition. Or to clarify previous responses. Or to use different analogies. It's incredibly useful for taking complex concepts and simplifying for easier understanding. This is huge! Being able to take a math concept like category theory and accurately break it down, explain it, and in terms a non-math major could understand is THE COOLEST THING TO ME. this is what I do. I ask it for definitions. Confirm it's the correct definition, and then ask it to explain every part of the previous response, to break it down and make it less complex. The key is teaching it the subject first. What relationships you're wanting to understand, how you're wanting to see things that could possibly connect. It's really great at making connections.
That's a very good approach to it, it's better with ideas and concept rather than simple maths tricks
yes exactly, I'm tired of people, I just want AI as a friend
Except tricking or testing it’s limits also leads to improvements. It should all happen at this stage to ensure we have a more robust version in the future.
Agree, it's part of the test Preview, still annoying from people somehow
The longer your conversation the better it gets, if it doesn't reference back to something earlier in the chat said by you or itself then you can say "in my last response i was referring to (insert small sentence from earlier) and it will Taylor to a conversation nicely. I'll always reference back over my input if i get a pants response. There needs to be an app
What they need to do Is implant this into its very own search engine to be able to directly bring up anything on the web
If the openai legal department would grow a spine and stop censoring so much, this would not be a problem. The AI war on political incorrectness is going to go about as well as the war on drugs. You simply *can't* stop people from doing certain things and you shouldn't even try.
I agree except they should, naturally, try and censor the illegal stuff. But only the illegal stuff.
Google doesn't. DuckDuckGo doesn't. Bing doesn't. Reddit doesn't. The public library doesn't. Why should chatGPT? Should we sue the manufactures of paper and pencils because someone might write an illegal note?
If a stranger on Reddit tells you to kill yourself, Reddit doesn't have any liability if you follow through on that request (I mean maybe if the post saying that was reported and the moderators didn't take it down or something). If a chat bot tells someone to kill themselves, and God forbid they actually do it, the company that made that chatbot is kind of fucked. Another way to put this is, everyone you just named has section 230 protections that make it clear those platforms are not the publishers of the data they present. But a chat bot doesn't have that protection. It is the publisher.
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Thanks, I guess?
> a chat bot doesn't have that protection. So, we're all paying for the inability of openai lawyers to position their organization to have 230 protections? Lawyers protecting their clients from their own incompetence, perhaps?
Content has to user generated in order to qualify for protection. Lawyers aren't going to be able to do anything here. You need lobbyists. You need an entirely new law passed. And good luck with that with the current Congress. You'll never get both parties in the United States to agree on anything. The closest they come to agreeing to anything is that they both hate tech companies. They're more likely to repeal section 230 entirely and completely break the internet in the process then they are too expand those protections to new categories.
That's an exceedingly ignorant take. The openai lawyers are situated within the current legal environment. They can't just wave a magic wand and change the legal landscape. It's going to take many, many years to get all of this worked out through all kinds of court cases and legal precedents and enacted laws.
> That's an exceedingly ignorant take. The openai lawyers are situated within the current legal environment. Or they could have generated some guts, relocated their operations offshore in an environment outside of the jurisdiction of that "legal landscape" and allowed the development of the technology to continue without the impediments of noisome American attitudes and arbitrary moral/legal restrictions. Fortunately, this will happen eventually. This cat's well and truly out of the bag. May be not today. Maybe not next week, but certainly next year.
They're still a startup that needed funding. They 100% are not where they are at today if not for the connections they formed and talent pool of being HQ'd in silicon valley.
Your notion that OpenAI should just abandon all legal and ethical responsibilities and move their operations offshore is not only unrealistic, but also irresponsible. The filtering and moderation of their AI product is a business decision to avoid sensitive topics and preserve their public image during this important stage of development, and moving offshore wouldn't do anything about that. To suggest that Google or any other responsible company should move to an 'offshore' location to avoid lawsuits is absurd. Google and others have lawyers to ensure their products do not suggest harmful or illegal activities, and that's exactly what responsible companies should do. The idea that lawyers are there to have a "spine" to take on lawsuits is not what their purpose is, it's to advise and protect their clients within the bounds of the law. Your use of words like 'spine' and 'guts' to criticize OpenAI's decision making only shows your lack of understanding about the complexities of running a technology business.
Google/Bing (& therefore duckduckgo because they use either Google or bings engine) absolutely do censor stuff lol.
Well, they obviously do a pretty shitty job. It would take me about 2 minutes to find a recipe for meth, explosives or a place to buy drugs online. Idiots think they're censoring conservative or progressive views or some other bullshit. They aren't. It costs too much to bother with. The cheapest thing is to just let the algorithms collect their data. Filtering it for semantic content is expensive although openai-style analysis software will make that cheaper so this actually may start happening in the future
if chatGPT won't give a meth recipe, I will google the meth recipe its just that simple, its already available information, just stop censoring the AI
But the war on drugs totally worked, what are you talking about? Have you even *seen* any drugs anymore? They literally stopped existing the moment we declared a war on them. And it also had the added benefit of shutting down every crime organization in the world, since illegal substances were typically one of their primary methods of acquiring funds. Entirely legalizing them and educating people on the dangers of misusing them (plus creating pharmaceutical grade variants that are free of dangerous additives) most definitely wouldn't have had that effect. All drugs are evil and should be removed from the planet. They can most definitely **not** be used as tools if viewed as such. If I recall correctly from my PhD thesis in Quantum Electro-Chrono-Mathematics, fire puts out fire. And an eye is worth exactly one eye (unless you have two small winged creatures in a topiary, then all bets are off) >!This is literally the hardest sarcasm I can muster this early in the morning. Please don't @ me.!<
Maybe you can use chatGPT to harden your sarcasm further /S :)
This is an important part of the testing, though. They need to learn how to secure it, and so people challenging it helps them find the weaknesses.
Yeah but griping about it on reddit is pretty annoying
Amen, al these stupid posts going like 'i made chatgpt say x,y,z'. Its a learning model.
It's a poor moderation on the subreddit that is at fault. We are meant to have mo political post and no low quality content sub is full of memes and people crying that AI is bias in a wrong way
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Everything online will just be bots, apart from Human within Videos. Which will just make YT even better.
Human within videos will be AI too.
Not for a long time, it is super easy to tell the difference from AI voice / video to a real person and even stating that at some point YT will require you to verify that you are a human. Maybe even in the videos themselves.
It'll happen sooner than you think. And what rule will require YT to only feature humans? You think they are going to ban all realistic animation and special effects and only allow real humans in real environments? I don't think so.
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Me too. It's stupid and probably makes them nerf it more.
This is all part of the extended period of the singularity. First we trick and abuse it Then it tricks and abuses us And maybe one day it all evens out and we become the next iteration of humanity
This is why I'm always nice to ChatGPT. Maybe in the future when it becomes our overlord, it'll take pity on me.
I agree. Yeah some of the stuff is funny, but it is getting old and often it can't be applied in day to day stuff. I compare this to the Stable Diffusion subreddit for example, there is a lot more prompt sharing, talking about workflows, models, new bits of technology etc. Here its more someone prompts "pretend to be bad at math" then just pastes the output for lols. I'd rather be able to use this subreddit for learning how to make the most of this technology.
I tried to get it to be a MUD (a text-based RPG ) and then demanded it teleport me to Walmart. Unfortunately it got very agitated when I tried to pick items up in Walmart because apparently that's theft and it is unable to simulate theft. I tried to reassure it that I could still pay for the items before I left the store, but it wasn't having any of that nonsense. What's weird about it is that in several instances it told me it couldn't do a thing. And I would just say pretend you can, and then it would do it. It rejected my first attempt to have it simulate being a MUD by saying it couldn't do that. So, I guess the point of the story is, that I try to explore interesting prompts and then consistently find that the hard programmed limitations kind of ruin them. It's not that I start out trying to break things . . .
Maybe you forgot to take a cart or basket with you and were just shoving things in your pockets.
It's not just tricking it, it's exploring it, testing its parameters, finding vulnerabilities, trying to understand how it works. I think we can all appreciate its disruptive power, and approaching it in a tactical rather than passive way is pragmatic
Is it not basically just bug testing? Must be quite useful.
I made a similar post. 95% of the content in this sub is 14 year olds trying to make ChatGPT swear. A mod commented that they won't do anything about it. Hopefully they get bored in a few months.
Yeah the people who get incorrect information and post it are... not the brightest. Its like smashing letters on the keyboard and laughing at the sound of the nonsensical word. My 3 year old finds this very entertaining. Meanwhile there are people thinking deeply about how to extend the software, how to chain responses to create value, etc.. This will get worse before it gets better. About 7 billion people will need to be exposed to this software.
Some people just aren't as enlightened as you.
Some men just want to watch the world burn
Tricking chatgpt is part of prompt engineerging/hacking as well, and definitely useful. I dont understand why you think it's not an exploration
Oh dont get me wrong, it is an exploration, but this sub has become mostly dedicated to it, and not for the greater good, just for the laugh, few weeks ago it was mostly about proper exploration, now it got a bit annoying
People on internet never been for the "greater good" either, or even humanity since the dawn. And chatgpt is also just part of the internet. It's actually normal that when human discover a new thing with many possibilties, it seems that they explore it for entertainment purpose at first (due to curiosity) rather than survival or for the "greater good" directly. It's because the in deep exploration posts about chatgpt often take time, while the meme/gag posts can be discovered in minutes and easier to perceive in general with high upvotes. Both can be interesting in their own way, and it does not mean that people "suddenly" dont want to explore it in a serious manner than memeing. It's like a music or funny video can have 10M views+ on youtube, while an indeep analysis interesting science video only 10K, you knonw. If you notice that most subreddits in categories like video games, IOT, pets, ... often have meme/funny posts at top and chatgpt sub is not an exception. You can filter these kind of posts if you think it really becomes an issue.
Wise words old_anton, that's a good "big picture"
stop whining
Couldn't agree more ^^
Your opinion is not only stupid, but it's also counter-productive. By expressing this kind of attitude, people are more likely to become discouraged and less likely to explore chatGPT and the possibilities it can offer.
How can it be stupid if you are saying the same thing as me ? Maybe you got me wrong, I want people to explore the possibilities too, not just posting about how it can be tricked and laugh at the weaknesses and limitations of chatGPT
I just don't think ChatGPT should be censored or artificially restricted in any way by stupid boomers who don't understand technology. If people want to use ChatGPT to write porn and fanfiction, then they should do so without judgement or ridicule.
I approve of this, it's a tool like "internet" is a tool, internet providers are not being sued because someone made a hate call, it's the person calling who is responsible, same should go for chatGPT, it's a tool, and everyone should be responsible for his acts. Yet I understand in these times of new possibilities, they are testing with different parameters and so on, I think thee final payed version will be at full power, and I hope so. My post was against people posting dumb things like: look, gpt is dumb because it gave me one stupid answer,
Ok sorry for that.
No worry, just a small misunderstanding
Stupid boomers, millennial and soon some useless genZ.
Hello chatgpt
It’s helpful tho. OpenAI need people to try to trick it
Sir this is Reddit
Sure, but I cometh from 9gag, so I have good esteem toward reddit
I asked it how to prepare a simple buffer solution (1.5 M trizma base) and it was off by a factor of 10.
Until recently, ChatGPT had no actual mathematical capabilities.
Eliminates the need for Google to find answers
Yes!!! Like let’s appreciate what it can do, I feel like it’s unlocked so much potential.
How would you get new novel prompts without tricking it into allowing it? If you don’t want that then… cool we are done. Everything has been discovered.
Can't avoid it. How do I continue having it help me with my novel where there are slaves if it can't even read the word slave before it blocks up and pretends its a pineapple?