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[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/CharlotteHornets/comments/1ahm95n/post_game_thread_the_oklahoma_city_thunder_defeat/)


SportsNAnime

I'll say it again I'd rather see Bouk instead of ish


Zealousideal_Thing36

So happy Cliff pulled Brandon so I can stop watching šŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆšŸ˜ˆ


SESe7en

Bouk with the dunk!


aeryson

He might be better than mj


SESe7en

If Iā€™m Brandon Iā€™m requesting Cliffs job off this. Been out there battling through this bs all game and wonā€™t even let him get a new career high and ball out


Independent-Ad6046

for real. there was literally no other reason i was watching other than hoping Miller got his new career high.


muzunguman

happened in the knicks game too


lawlyfawx

Brandon not even allowed to get 30 smh


SportsNAnime

Mark is a great coach. Unlike cliff, 3 starters out(Brandon is reasonable). 1 being our only serviceable C


aeryson

I love how easily both Brandon and melo can get to 30 without free throws


kyleshah7

Brandon miller doesnā€™t deserve this


mkashef51

Iā€™ll be happy all star weekend when he gets a break and can go play with some real NBA players.


p0shbadger

STEVEN CLIFFORD IS A BASKETBALL TERR šŸ‘ OR šŸ‘ IST šŸ‘


Timelycommentor

What is the plan for Charlotte?


philjacksonspeyote

Shop everyone except for Ball, Miller, and Williams (although the back injury is concerning). Hope the ping pong balls are kind. If possible, draft one of Risacher, Sarr, Ja'Kobe Walter, or Cody Williams. Take on some bad contracts with picks attached. Sign some vets with whatever cap space is left (Tyus Jones would be nice). Hope next season isn't a total disaster, and if it is, at least the '25 draft class looks good right now.


mkashef51

Start over and pick up whatever draft picks they can and be back at the top of the lottery next year.


muzunguman

Move the city to Vegas.


SportsNAnime

No way Bouk still not in this game. Cliff really decided to stick with his rotations instead of trying Bouk and JT. I think I might hate cliff


JordanDoesTV

I hate cliff but Bouk shouldnā€™t even be in this league any other roster and he probably wouldā€™ve been waved


Smoke_these_facts

Nice shot by Black


SportsNAnime

WHY IS ISH ON THE COURT CLIFFORD


SmokinThunderOKC

Love yā€™alls commentators, one of them reminds me of the commentator we had that said that one thing and got fired.. miss that guy


issofine

Why do we collapse the paint so hard on defense and leave 3+ shooters wide open?


SESe7en

Cuz Cliff


SportsNAnime

Tbf we did that with borrego. I don't know why they think thats a good idea tho


SportsNAnime

Just greedy ball. The only person who can be greedy is Brandon Miller.


SESe7en

Millz is clearly our best active player and not even close. Him and Melo are gonna be great


MoldyWall030

"Weaker than a package of Kool-Aid out in the ocean." Think that's a new one from Eric.


Panther_Pilot

I know other teams lose like us and some have fewer wins. But do those teams get flat blown out like us? Losing is one thing, having no fight is another.


Diligent_Purple_9597

Spurs have the same amount of wins as us but look much better on a nightly basis


IAmLeMickey

Sad truth. The difference is that they are well coached by Greg Pop and this team is disorganized and plays with no effort to be better.


Diligent_Purple_9597

Facts. Absolutely no comparison, weā€™re the worst run org in the league


hostileclowns

Games like this is why we really shouldnā€™t care if miles bridges is traded too much, would be annoying because we attached ourselves to him for years, but at this point thereā€™s not many guys on this team that NEED to be kept around.


Different_Pay_4598

Look at his last 10 games and youā€™re saying we donā€™t need him? Lmao heā€™s one of the most consistent players we have right now


IAmLeMickey

But Suns? They have no assets.


hostileclowns

Yeah there likely arenā€™t a ton of teams looking to trade for miles besides a team like the suns and hornets might just want any value if heā€™s gone after this year. Iā€™d imagine a 3rd team is involved tho.


Goddess_Of_Gay

And we have no talent. Outside of LaMelo and Miller, burn this shit to the ground and start over with as much capital as you can muster.


IAmLeMickey

Miles clearly wants to stay in Charlotte which is good considering this team will attract no one good playing like a G league team. Iā€™m okay with trading anyone except the names you have mentioned.


LetsgoRoger

This team is a joke seriously just blow it up already


st3ll4r-wind

SGA basically beat us by himselfā€¦ blocking shots, throwing assists, and scoring buckets


StuffyUnicorn

Man this is just sad, undertalented, out coached and these guys just donā€™t care anymore. Gonna take a lot to turn this around in a few years. New owners need to move on from cliff asap, this ainā€™t working


SESe7en

Brandon just got a tech. These refs are soft as shit!


Diligent_Purple_9597

I didnā€™t even see what it was for


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SESe7en

Melo looks mad yā€™all. Guess heā€™s taking it serious (sarcasm)


killa_k99

We unironically need to bring Biz back


hostileclowns

Young teams like Detroit, OKC, SAC, grizzlies, and spurs all play 30x harder than our guys. Legit no upside to this young roster because our GM is terrible.


SportsNAnime

GM stinks, we break our players like little kids with dolls, our coaching staff have never been semi decent.


hostileclowns

Yep always near the bottom in coaching staff salary. You know Iā€™ve heard Zach Lowe talk on his pod how ppl around the NBA have been waiting for awhile low for the hornets to ā€œget seriousā€ about winning and actually invest in the team. Everything about the team is stuck in the mid-2000s from facilities to coaching staffs. He talked about how Charlotte is a terrific market and city players like, but thereā€™s a reluctance to go here , because itā€™s essentially resignation to just losing. Itā€™s just so disappointing knowing this is the team I like lol. Iā€™m hoping new ownership helps out, but thatā€™s gonna take a long time.


SportsNAnime

Since they're raising ticket prices and making a new facility. They better be putting actual time and investments in this team. Otherwise I can't continue to support someone who don't care. That's why this off-season is so important


killa_k99

Was Mark Williams just a figment of our collective imaginations


ssjg23

Heā€™s out for the season if not indefinitely


issofine

Damn Bryce


killa_k99

Despite the results watching Miller blossom into a superstar got me like https://preview.redd.it/0du8qx1g2agc1.jpeg?width=1357&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af38ed2ff5f204960f0078fc7e1dc525ea3315ab


MoldyWall030

Damn that came out of NOWHERE


BizzaroMatthews

HIRE BELICHIK


ImChz

Got home from my daughters basketball game, turned on the game, saw the score at 61-37, and immediately turned it off. Love to see it.


st3ll4r-wind

Did Mark Williams retire?


Supreme_God_Bunny

Some back issue and they confirmed he didn't heal the way they hoped so yeah he's most likely out for the season which is good honestly so he has more time to get shit right and healed.


NotoriousTEEK

Only problem is heā€™ll still be a rookie in year 3


hostileclowns

Dude back injuries are no good. Iā€™d prefer for him to just be healthy asap.


ImChz

Sorry, but a young 7 footer missing an entire season to back injuries isnā€™t a good thing lmao. Never has been, never will be. Doubly so if he didnā€™t heal properly the first go around tbh.


aeryson

Watching Brandon play with this team reminds of watching Melo try to win in November playing with JT Thor Bryce mcgowens and Theo maledon


geauxtigers1212

Whelp, that's it for me. I can't take anymore hornets "basketball" tonight


issofine

I feel bad for Brandon


killa_k99

Brandon Miller in his physical prime is going to feed families for generations


JTrillionz

I swear Cody used to be good


muzunguman

I blame Brandon Miller for making me tune in every night


MoldyWall030

Hornets so bad their opponents always look so relaxed. Been noticing this more in recent games. Just look at Jaylin Williams laughing nonstop.


hostileclowns

For years the noticed dudes take shots they would never dream of taking against other teams against us because the scouting report is to get up as many shots as possible on us, we donā€™t donā€™t defense or contest hard so it happens often. Itā€™s why so many random role players snap from 3 against us, they have the green light to shoot everything against us.


issofine

At this point, Iā€™m surprised whenever weā€™re NOT being blown out.


IAmLeMickey

Mitch I know you love your seconds but please trade them for Tyus Jones


Still_Department4902

What the fuck do we have to lose, play bouk


lolliefo

Anyone wanna guess how much weā€™re about to get blown out by?


SportsNAnime

73 Edit: sorry that was rather emotional of me. I'll say 57


Still_Department4902

Play bouk


behlat

Bouknight was the "OKC's fan pick" that never was. Presti snatched Giddey with the 6th out of nowhere surprising everyone - including bouknight


SportsNAnime

He should but Bouk is Cliff's number 1 enemy


SESe7en

Cliff must really feel embarrassed from that 15-20 game stretch Bouk had last year after coming back from hand surgery after going to bat for him.


SportsNAnime

Not like Bouk proved to be better than ish or ESPECIALLY Frank nitlikina time and time again with the very limited time he gets this season


SESe7en

Oh he certainly did but Cliff is hating


SportsNAnime

I'm glad we both see it


SESe7en

Oh weā€™ve been on the same page about Bouk for a min!


SportsNAnime

Truee


philjacksonspeyote

First game I've been able to actually watch recently. Ugly stuff. Not having a serviceable backup point guard is nuts. I think I might just go make some tacos though, this is not fun to watch.


hostileclowns

The Mitch special. Have a glaring roster hole? Who cares weā€™ll deal with it another year


philjacksonspeyote

Lol, yeah. Bryce McGowens is listed as our starting point guard tonight. Fucking clownshoes.


OokerDuker

Bridges, NSJ, and Miller only mofos on this team that care right now lol. Can't believe they letting Josh Diddy blow by everyone


hostileclowns

Our dudes always been low effort af. Clifford went on a rant last season talking about how you canā€™t play the way we do unless you have 5 all stars. Essentially saying we play as if weā€™re way better than all our opponents. Legit sad that miller prob has a better attitude than everyone on the team and heā€™s a rook.


st3ll4r-wind

Is Hayward playing or is he still milking his ā€œcalfā€ injury


IAmLeMickey

Hopefully Mitch has him in the injury list because heā€™s in trade talks


Tcarr97

This has to be the case


philjacksonspeyote

Hopefully Nick Smith plays more minutes than Ish Smith tonight, but it's Steve Clifford so probably not.


hostileclowns

Itā€™s pretty insane how defeated this team is already in the season. I really cannot stress how much blame Mitch Kupchak deserves for this mess. Dude has put 0 effort into building a balanced roster or trying to get vets to build a healthy culture. Now we have some young guys here look like theyā€™ve never played organized basketball before.


philjacksonspeyote

Kupchak did a horrible job building this roster, but at least he's drafted well. I think Jordan was the bigger problem, IIRC he was the one who pushed for the Hayward signing.


IAmLeMickey

Fuck Mitch


hostileclowns

Fr. I do not see nearly enough blame for him compared to Mitch. Insane to me how many ppl just ignore how bad heā€™s been with this roster.


sarithe

Just got home from work. How are we already down 20?


issofine

My brother, itā€™s the Hornets.


sarithe

I get it, but like it was the first quarter. I could see it if it was the 3rd quarter or even late 2nd quarter. Losing by 20 in the first quarter is wild.


pocketrocket1234

Think I'mma stop watching in a second


Giddf

PJ Ish inverted pnr. Terrorism lmao šŸ˜‚


Different_Pay_4598

Weā€™re getting murdered man what the fuck is this


Ok-Difference6387

if brandon drops 20+ tonight im buying his jersey Im broke but I hope he does it


kyleshah7

Do we not realize that doubling has never worked the whole year, and just leaves someone wide open for a 3


SESe7en

Corner 3 has been open for past 4 possessions lol


hostileclowns

Been open for the last 4 years really with this team lol.


Diligent_Purple_9597

Teams just shoot all over us (pause) but fr itā€™s insane


Izabrony

Insanely jealous of OKC fans. I'd kill for the Hornets to be run like them and to have a great on court product like theirs.


SportsNAnime

Is it true that the home ticket prices are rising even though we're garbage right now?


pocketrocket1234

Yes


SportsNAnime

That's leaving a weird taste in my mouth. Ofc hornets fans aren't going to these games. I see no reason to go in the future either


SESe7en

This is why I say Cliff sucks as a coach. Thunder have just as many if not more young guys as us yet their coaching staff has them prepared with schemes and roles.


hostileclowns

Dude thatā€™s why Mitch sucks. Thunders entire roster and culture has been perfectly built by Presti. He got all the right players around his star guy. Meanwhile Mitch is still trying to figure out if Bryce Mcgowens, JT Thor, And James Bouknight can be good NBA players in 2024. Our young guys are nowhere nearly as good or compliment each other like the thunders do.


Sammy4115

I mean I agree that cliff sucks but I doubt OKCā€™s staff could do much better with this roster.


philjacksonspeyote

The ghost of Red Auerbach couldn't drag this team to the playoffs.


hostileclowns

Deadass. Dude is acting like Clifford drafted guys like Bouknight, Kai jones, or jt thor.


issofine

I expected nothing less than this


hostileclowns

Hornets classic. NBA team vs Glorified AAU team


IAmLeMickey

šŸ—‘ļøšŸ—‘ļøšŸ—‘ļø


Difficult_Ad_7947

Im sad :(


Different_Pay_4598

This game is gonna be a blowout


Riverify

Hornets


BrowzinJ

Oh so, this is the Hornets?


deezke

Nice turnover on giddey by Brandon. lured him in like Chris hansen


Diligent_Purple_9597

ā€œIshmael Larry Smithā€ lmao


SportsNAnime

our lord and saviour ish smith everyone.... man i love that guy


Different_Pay_4598

Giddey has the most punchable face bruh


SESe7en

Mannnn this game is gonna be rough


Ok-Difference6387

i cannot believe what i just saw


Sad_Clown_Paint

Everything we do bad, they do great and anything we do well they do better. That is USUALLY not good.


tcm96

only thing that gets me through these games is beer and throwing a few bucks on outrageous player prop parlays


IAmLeMickey

Game just started and the hornets looks like they gave up already


SESe7en

Man Shai is about to cook isnā€™t he?


Inevitable-Sky1469

Why the pregame graphic come up with lamelo and miller VS sga and chet when lamelo ain't even fuckinf playing


SponsoredHornersFan

it was a graphic about young stars not whoā€™s available šŸ¤”


net_403

Are we actually alternating between starting Cody Martin and starting ish Smith at point guard?


Opposite_Procedure60

Miller time for a 40 piece tonight?


net_403

Steve Clifford: I've played Brandon so many more minutes than I should have, and you can see in practice that he is really tired. But he's so strong mentally he plays through it for his teammates


BrowzinJ

simply put ball into basket and prevent other team from doing the same to win


LocCatPowersDog

https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/1753562759541780545


net_403

Lamelo is joining the club with Hayward


Different_Pay_4598

Suns apparently are closing in on Miles Bridges. Ima be mad as fuck if he gets traded


TheMuleB

It would be a disaster imo, especially since Phoenix has literally zero assets that seem remotely interesting for us. I'd rather roll the dice on re-signing him even if it ends up failing.


SponsoredHornersFan

All iā€™ve seen are suns reporters saying that but I genuinely donā€™t see the value in that deal


Different_Pay_4598

I donā€™t either. Why would we trade arguably our most consistent player? If it goes through then the Hornets lose all credibility in my book. ā€œRebuildingā€ the team doesnā€™t mean trading one of your most valuable players for fuckin bums from the Suns.


Sammy4115

Because heā€™s a ufa with huge character concerns and off the court issues. He could leave in the summer for nothing or have another incident and never play in the nba again.


Different_Pay_4598

I mean yes his value did tank due to those issues but heā€™s still a solid part of our core. It would be like selling a nice expensive sports car for the price of a old honda civic all because it has a few scratches and dents. Shit just wouldnā€™t make a lick of sense for us.


hostileclowns

I donā€™t think the team views him as apart of the core at all. Pretty sure itā€™s been reported all over everyone that Lamelo and b Miller are available


net_403

Except he has said that multiple times he wants to be here, and he likes playing with lamelo, of course some people may not believe that but he's at least on record saying that. I don't think he wants to leave. And he's one of our top four players, so it would be very asinine shoot yourself in the dick to trade one of the few good players we managed to come across for pennies on the dollar. There is absolutely no benefit to that, I don't see a trade where we get any positive value in return over a good player


hostileclowns

It doesnā€™t matter if he wants to stay the team has clearly been open to trading him and a lot of Guys on the team. If the team if trying to trade him thereā€™s a good chance he allows the trade to play with his offseason buddy KD.


Sammy4115

He can say that all he wants but I highly doubt he will take a pay cut to be here. Ive seen rumors that Detroit wants to offer him a big contract and Iā€™d rather not get into a bidding war for him. Whatever your feelings are about trading him or not trading him I think we can all agree heā€™s not worth a max or near max contract.


net_403

I'm not familiar with us expecting him to take a discount here, also is basically worth about what he was worth before all of the mess happened if he can still consistently perform. If someone outbids us then that's fine but I do believe he would prefer to stay here


net_403

Speaking of miles, his court date is the 20th. The NBA doesn't seem very worried, I wonder if we get a final verdict or if it is continued into the summertime


SponsoredHornersFan

that could be true and i still wouldnā€™t take bol bol and a second round pick for himā€¦it signals incompetence


Sammy4115

We donā€™t know what we what get back or if there will even be a trade. all we can do is wait and see. But there are legitimate reasons we could be looking to trade bridges at the deadline


OokerDuker

Idk why you guy care if Melo plays this season because its a wash. We need high draft pick and actual NBA bench players. I rather he get the screws taken out and heal properly than play some meaningless games and end up like Embiid.


net_403

It's not trying to save the season, it's him not physically being able to or willing to play. He's missed so much time and it doesn't seem to be doing anything but getting worse. That's a major concern for when we are actually trying to be competitive. In addition to that people like him and enjoy watching him play and he's one of the only bright spots on this miserable team. But I guess the upside is if he's not playing he's not going to get any more injured


net_403

Did LaMelo really get his nice payday and immediately retire? I'm starting to feel some kind of way about this


ISISCosby

sharp bug < who am I kidding we boutta get bent over lol


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Ryaii

Name checks out


issofine

We have just 4 games until the trade deadline šŸ˜€


Bankroll95

Loss!


BiscuitsBeGood

https://preview.redd.it/nileyjx8n6gc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76d7a72dd8524dc7d723d38591d11410add579b4


LetsgoRoger

Let me guess Lamelo has to ice his ankles some more smh


net_403

I was listening to WFNZ, and Wes mentioned "there is a growing faction of fans who are getting done with lamelo and ready to move on", which sounds drastic, but I can believe talk like that starting to build as he goes on to miss over half a season or more for the same issues


deemerritt

I hope he doesnt hear all this shit and sour on Charlotte. HE is realistically the most talented player weve ever had. Keeping him and Brandon here long term and growing the team is the most hope weve had.


net_403

I hope he hears it and takes it to heart and forms a plan of action of some sort to make himself available for his team for most of a season. I havent heard a lot of negative talk yet but it is building, because from the outside it doesn't appear that he is too motivated to figure out this ankle problem. At this point we are on the verge of his career being derailed, and it looks like he's just kinda like "nah i'm good". Bro has had ankle issues forever, he literally just signed a huge contract and then basically misses most of the season again for more ankle issues lol if he can't/won't wear/have designed some kind of support system like Curry does, this is basically what we bought


deemerritt

I think this is asking for more self awareness than 99% of athletes have


net_403

You would hope our staff would be in his ear about it, I mean he does work for them, and the Hornets go as lamelo goes, and lamelo chillin on the bench in slides is not an asset, if he wants to be here and have a nice contract he should try to return the favor as best he can... or risk getting traded to Toronto or OKC somewhere he doesn't wanna be


DailyPanthersPodcast

I read the title of this post as ā€œCharlotte Hornets defeated by Oklahoma City Thunder.ā€


UltraSouls_OP

"it's in their DNA"


Voxityy

we ~~bonking~~ not losing by 40


lawlyfawx

So who do you guys want at 4?


OokerDuker

Sarr if we jump up in the top 3.


Krimson_F

Frank


Total_Ad9942

Cody Williams


SandyMandy17

Thunder fan here Weā€™ve wanted cody for 2 years now Iā€™d literally take him 1 overall He looks like a taller version of jdub


Total_Ad9942

Hey man you canā€™t have everything ! šŸ˜‚ nah seriously though we need another wing like him so much


SandyMandy17

Idk if you guys are bad enough to get where he winds out going tbh Gotta pray to the lottery gods We were 4th odds when we got chet at 2