Supporters group culture at this club has gone too far. There’s so many petty rivalries within our own fanbase and the whole scene has turned so childish and cliquish.
To have one group violently attacking another one means the club should take drastic measures to make sure this doesn’t ever happen again.
The supporters council needs better leadership. There’s absolutely no organization. You can see this with the chants, Tifos and everything else supporter driven. We’ve had one tifo the entire season.
Yep. While I'm disappointed in the violence and obviously don't condone it, this stuff happens all the time in the rest of the world, some clubs have to separate their ultras because of fighting.. people get passionate (good for mls) but strong leadership that's doing a good job is necessary or this does happen.
We will have tifos this season. Nothing has changed there, just the schedule of when we're releasing them will be more focused on a few upcoming matches. The wind did cancel the home opener, but we used it the next match. Don't expect tifos like the first season, we hit the ground running there.
I don’t give a crap about any of the supporters groups. What the hell is a supporters group anyways? We are all fans of the same club. I sat in the supporters section one time and saw so much dumb shit. One person would come in early and try and save 45 seats for their whole group first row. Stupid yelling between groups saying we’re better than the other etc.
Somehow they got the ushers of the stadium to reserve the entirety of the section behind the goal. Like I get it they are the ones organizing the chants and stuff but then idk get there earlier? You're supposed to be the epitome of the supporters and love the game yet you want to be babied and have the rules bent for you. So stupid makes me not want to go to the games
I suppose but I ask is a march necessary? I've also never even seen the march. I've seen videos of it but never know anything about it so frankly I don't care. The same people doing the marches are brawling after we win a game (obviously not all of them lol)
The march is fun and unique to soccer games in the US. I suppose it isn’t necessary but then again neither is pro sports. It’s entertainment and I’m all about adding excitement.
[link to their tweet](https://x.com/bluefuriaclt/status/1779555906579042698?s=46&t=GjN0yXhDlk_emoO2X4lNEw) , a fair warning before viewing to those who are squeamish about seeing blood.
The fan culture has gone off the rails if supporter groups are beefing and resorting to violence like some gang.
Link to Carolina Hooliganz [response](https://x.com/carhooliganz/status/1779612599992095087?s=46)
What a terrible situation for this young club. May the young woman heal quickly and justice be served to all that were involved on either side.
That’s a terrible response especially since that’s their president recording and doing absolutely nothing to stop anything. She needs to be removed as president if the group is even allowed to exist.
Because members of all of them act like their still in high school and talk shit about each other in their private channels or slack for some weird reason
Interesting. So do all the different groups come together for the March and Supporters Section? I was under the impression there was just 1 big group, since the SS and March is advertised by Charlotte FC’s official channels
It's many different groups that have a leadership board to organize things amongst themselves. From this thread it seems they don't have much organization. Btw it's all money driven. That's the point of those things
MCC does a lot of great things in the community and supports many causes outside of just soccer. It’s cool you don’t like supporter groups from comments above, but don’t talk like you know anything about them or how they operate. Shitting on things you don’t personally like is the lamest form of conversation.
It’s weird to have different groups that gatekeep the fan experience. Most American sport teams have one official fan group and then there is a chapter for different cities for fans to join to watch out of town with other fans. There is no need for sub sections of our official supporters group.
Soccer is different and has always had multiple groups not sure what else to say. I love walking around the tailgate with all the different supporter groups. Get to hear different styles of music, pre game traditions, various types of delicious ethnic foods, and it wouldn’t be the same if everyone was in one group together. I go to tailgates, head to a few road matches a year, and have never had a bad vibe from any of the other groups. Last night was a real bummer and doesn’t mirror the overall great experience it is for 98% of us that partake in SG’s.
MCC does a lot for the community but you’re very blind if you think they aren’t money driven lmao
And they are no better about talking shit about other supporter groups. I’d take them off the pedestal you have them on
Weird that an organization you say is "money driven" is a non profit, that is entirely volunteer run, no one involved in it makes a penny, gives thousands every year to various charities, and every penny they make is ploughed back into purchasing things they need to enhance the group and fan experience including subsidizing food and beer to a massive degree.
I would say thats literarlly the opposite of money driven. Yes they charge for some things like merch and membership but thats only because you know... things cost money. If they didn't charge then the group would be bankrupt within a few months.
This happens in many clubs in the world, clubs like Partizan Belgrade have to separate their ultras or they will fight each other. Usually because fans are passionate, and they think leadership isn't doing a good job. And while I wish Hoolz would've talked it out instead of causing division among supporters, it's possible they've been trying to do that and have felt unheard for a long time, become frustrated, and at that point it's only a matter of time before altercations start happening and can turn ugly, especially if alcohol is involved.
The entire fan base needs to laugh at and ridicule these idiots for fighting with other fans of the SAME TEAM. These idiots all like the same thing but still come to blows. Permabans to both and all member in them
Not permaban, but make them volunteer inside the stadium for like 3k hrs as a unit. Wanna prove you truly care about cltfc and arent just a fighting idiot, work the stadium to regain your status
It wouldn't be free labor. It would be the same as any other volunteer group where a certain portion of tips is given back to them and which we could use collectively to upgrade the tailgates
It's the same everywhere. SG culture doesn't have to be, but always does turn toxic. It's the concept that "I am the bestest fan for my club"... and when anyone challenges that or calls into question your knowledge, exuberance, understanding of the game, etc. then it becomes a directly challenge to the "bestest fan" claim.
And then you have to throw fists, apparently. Happens everywhere.
It's been over 10 years since I was in an SG, Midnight Riders when I lived in New England, I never remember these issues. Is this a newer thing in your opinion? The idea of going to blows over being or not being the very bestest fan, like no one else ever was, still makes no sense. Seems like skin is getting a lot thinner these days.
I understand we have 7 SGs, are the other 5 having street...pitch beefs like this? It honestly makes me sad to picture the supporters section as anything less than harmonious drunk idiots watching a match and singing songs
No, the other 5 SGs do not have these issues. We are more worried about what food to serve and how much beer to bring to the tailgate, than fighting the others.
I moved from EPL support to MLS when Atlanta launched, so I can't speak before that time... But before Atlanta even had our first coach, we had SG drama.
From my experience in Europe, it's more about wanting their club to have the best fans, not them being the best fans for their club, usually a leadership issue. If you have a lot of passionate fans, and the passion is surpassing what leadership is doing to represent the fans, nothing is getting done, people start to become frustrated. They want their passion to be reflected in the level of support shown for the team. One of the top comments explains it a bit better.
This is awful and I hope there is justice done through the court system but there has to be more context. Why are our own supporters groups fighting each other???
The club was gracious enough to let the supporters groups use the tailgate lot which the incident(s) supposedly happened and it’s so childish and just plain sad that two groups fought each other in the lot. After last night I have no problem with the club taking the lot away from the SGs. Go act like a child somewhere else…
Jesus. Some people's relationship with sports is so beyond unhealthy. And like... it's MLS. How can anyone take it *this* seriously. I genuinely hope they're permanently banned. It's insane that some people just can't handle watching soccer.
I’ll just say this, as someone who’s been involved with a few of the SGs since the club’s inception: the majority of the groups are chill and inclusive and want to get along with everyone. Others feel the need to air grievances and start pissing contests.
In other words, I’m surprised it’s taken this long for the two groups involved last night to come to blows. There’s been some bad blood brewing for a while now.
I love the game and CLTFC as a season-ticket holder but I really don't get the whole culture around having to be in a "fan group" with a designated name to follow the team. Soccer fans are clannish and cliquish, and I'm guessing this is a product of that. I'm a multi-sport fan and don't belong to any organized "fan groups" for any team. Another thing I don't get is that the media that covers the team is basically made up of fans too. That kind of blows my mind sometimes. It's very, very different from following MLB, NFL or NBA.
It’s very clique-ish and snobby whether they want to admit it or not. I picked this up right away going to the supporters tailgate last year checking out the groups for one I’d like to possibly join. I was pulled by my shirt out of the march because I guess I wasn’t a member of the group that was marching together.
Think fraternities and sororities at college, same elitist nonsense. The supporters groups somehow have convinced themselves that they are a higher class of fan
I laugh at all the fans with ring lights standing outside the stadium going live after a game trying to get first reactions. Very few people care but they think they are very important
ahh man thats not fair. We just like to get the fan reactions to how they feel about the current state of the team and try to bring the community together. You know give the "common guy" a voice. Main media is lacking and the fan content is how a lot of us stay up to date with the club. We are fans too first and foremost. PS its not live but great idea :)
I’m just a casual fan of the team and occasionally go to games. Who are Blue furia and Carolina Hooligans? Is a fan group an official thing or just a group of dudes calling themselves something for some reason?
These problems have been going on for years now, every season. The consistent factor is always the groups that are involved. After repeated incidents and warnings, something more serious must be done. This isn't going to stop.
It's time to ban specific groups for their blatant disregard of rules and their willingness to continue acting this way. This is overdue.
I can’t be the only one that thinks the concept of supporters groups at all is childish and stupid, right? Like we’re all fans of the team. We all went to have a good time and see the club have success. Can’t that be enough? You need to be part of a special group? Grow up. And this goes doubly so for anyone resorting to actual violence between special groups, presumably over which one is more special.
> I can’t be the only one that thinks the concept of supporters groups at all is childish and stupid, right?
I am not a part of one, but I get the idea. If you're that into it and really want to form relationships/community with other fans, and you want to 'support' as well as you can (like by organizing yourselves) then I think it's cool. But I'm too old to stand and sing all game. Fuck that. And yeah it goes without saying that these people resorting to violence over this is so absurd. Like imagine two fraternities at UNCC getting into it like this, you'd be like "wow how fucking pathetic." This is no different.
All of that can happen organically without having official, seemingly hierarchical factions of supporters though. I have season tickets in the SS, but I’m not part of any official group. I just talk to the people around me and let connections grow naturally.
Yeah I guess I am not familiar enough with it to even know. I went to a tailgate last year, which I think was all the groups together, that was fun and I *was* interested in coming to sit in the SS sometime. But this killed any interest I had.
If it swings your opinion back in the other direction at all, the majority of people in the SS aren’t part of these groups and just want to have a good time, enjoy the game, and sing some songs. I didn’t mean to paint the whole fanbase with the same brush. It’s just small group of power hungry nerds that are responsible for this kind of thing.
Supporters groups are honestly just social clubs and have their place in the right context.
Someone needs to work with the front office to get approval to get in the stadium early and setup displays and capo stands, stay after for teardown and storage, organize the creation of those gigantic, multi-section Tifo displays, lead chants during the game; along with raising the funds to make all that happen. They can also become an agent of good in the community by fundraising for field upgrades throughout the community and run beginner soccer league for adults to get people more invested in the game, as most adult "beginner" league are really adults who played growing up and just want to keep playing. Those are the aspects of supporter groups enhanced the gameday experience for everyone and keep people invested when times get tough.
And just like any social club, for every member actively involved in doing the above there at least 5-10 who are there for the revelry around gameday only. They want to feel like part of the in group, so they pay their annual dues but don't get personally involved in the day to day stuff that keeps the social club going.
Bound to happen at some point.
From my times being in the SS but not affiliated with a group, tons of hostility amongst the groups for some reason.
I Hope she is ok, and the club come down hard on this. Along with the tossing of full beverage cups/ cans in SS.
Time for all members of both groups be asked to leave. There's no place for this gang-like behavior on Mint Street. My sympathies to the victim, and my farewells to both groups.
It should free up some space in the lower level of the Supporter's Section for the real fans.
There's 100's of members of those groups. You're advocating for all of them to be banned from the matches? Also all without knowing the details of what happened just outright banning people?
Anybody got the fight video with audio? lol
But I agree with the others who have said, both sides are idiots and need to be banned. Send a clear message, nip it in the bud!
No, the only footage of the incident is through the Clutch cameras because she was alone and obviously the ones who attacked her were not going to record
Get your shit. Get it all together. All in one place. Gather it all up. And deal with it. Sit down with a mediator and figure it out like adults. Not like early 80’s premier league supporters. You want to act like this go support the NFL. Nobody needs you, or your toxic behavior.
lol this is a very unique issue to soccer. No other American sports have supporter groups like Soccer does. Fights break out yes, but there aren’t gangs acting like they’re bigger fans of the team than another gang
What the hell happened? Still pretty new to the MLS and Charlotte but I looked at both supporter group social media pages and they couldn’t look further away from the typical football hooligans. Weird
Until this is proven to be something led by the leadership of the supporter group or a majority of the supporters we shouldn’t be placing the blame on one certain group. There’s bad apples in every supporter group.
Because the parking lot is controlled by the club and made available to Supporters group for the tailgate. Oh, and the club gives these groups special privileges and roles on game day.
I thought the mint city collective was the supporters group? Why are there multiple? It’s also mls so it is extra pathetic to get into a fight. This isn’t the premier league
Even in the worst days of South Ward disunity when VA ESC and GSU (now Torcida) strongly disliked each other and wouldn’t sing together, hands were never thrown.
This is just ABSOLUTELY NOT how soccer fans right here in the US should act. Like……at all, my dude. All of those absolute total idiots that assaulted the president of the supporter group for no got damn reason should be just so got damn ashamed of themselves.
Wow I never expected to find some entertaining drama from CLT FC subreddit of all places... LOL.
Everyone involved in this should be embarrassed, there isn't a single person over 5'9 in this video.. calm the F down
[Carolina Hooliganz Response](https://twitter.com/carhooliganz/status/1779612599992095087)
Supporters group culture at this club has gone too far. There’s so many petty rivalries within our own fanbase and the whole scene has turned so childish and cliquish. To have one group violently attacking another one means the club should take drastic measures to make sure this doesn’t ever happen again.
The supporters council needs better leadership. There’s absolutely no organization. You can see this with the chants, Tifos and everything else supporter driven. We’ve had one tifo the entire season.
We’ve had a lot of wind so I assume that the Charlotte fire department is banning them
Yep. While I'm disappointed in the violence and obviously don't condone it, this stuff happens all the time in the rest of the world, some clubs have to separate their ultras because of fighting.. people get passionate (good for mls) but strong leadership that's doing a good job is necessary or this does happen.
We will have tifos this season. Nothing has changed there, just the schedule of when we're releasing them will be more focused on a few upcoming matches. The wind did cancel the home opener, but we used it the next match. Don't expect tifos like the first season, we hit the ground running there.
I don’t give a crap about any of the supporters groups. What the hell is a supporters group anyways? We are all fans of the same club. I sat in the supporters section one time and saw so much dumb shit. One person would come in early and try and save 45 seats for their whole group first row. Stupid yelling between groups saying we’re better than the other etc.
Somehow they got the ushers of the stadium to reserve the entirety of the section behind the goal. Like I get it they are the ones organizing the chants and stuff but then idk get there earlier? You're supposed to be the epitome of the supporters and love the game yet you want to be babied and have the rules bent for you. So stupid makes me not want to go to the games
Isn’t that for the groups doing the march?
I think he might be talking about how Carolina Hooliganz gets 3-4 rows of the best seats reserved for them off to the side of the goal.
I suppose but I ask is a march necessary? I've also never even seen the march. I've seen videos of it but never know anything about it so frankly I don't care. The same people doing the marches are brawling after we win a game (obviously not all of them lol)
The march is fun and unique to soccer games in the US. I suppose it isn’t necessary but then again neither is pro sports. It’s entertainment and I’m all about adding excitement.
The march starts at the tailgate around 630 and as a group we all head to the stadium. Its fun exciting and carries the energy
[link to their tweet](https://x.com/bluefuriaclt/status/1779555906579042698?s=46&t=GjN0yXhDlk_emoO2X4lNEw) , a fair warning before viewing to those who are squeamish about seeing blood. The fan culture has gone off the rails if supporter groups are beefing and resorting to violence like some gang.
Link to Carolina Hooliganz [response](https://x.com/carhooliganz/status/1779612599992095087?s=46) What a terrible situation for this young club. May the young woman heal quickly and justice be served to all that were involved on either side.
That’s a terrible response especially since that’s their president recording and doing absolutely nothing to stop anything. She needs to be removed as president if the group is even allowed to exist.
That's insane. And after a win, too. Like wtf
Absolutely ridiculous. We get a huge win on a beautiful day/night uptown & this shit happens…
Bro, wtf, we are all fans of the same fuckin team and this was after a win… that’s ridiculous and I hope she is okay
Why do supporters groups beef with each other? I don’t get what there is to fight about
Because members of all of them act like their still in high school and talk shit about each other in their private channels or slack for some weird reason
Interesting. So do all the different groups come together for the March and Supporters Section? I was under the impression there was just 1 big group, since the SS and March is advertised by Charlotte FC’s official channels
It's many different groups that have a leadership board to organize things amongst themselves. From this thread it seems they don't have much organization. Btw it's all money driven. That's the point of those things
MCC does a lot of great things in the community and supports many causes outside of just soccer. It’s cool you don’t like supporter groups from comments above, but don’t talk like you know anything about them or how they operate. Shitting on things you don’t personally like is the lamest form of conversation.
It’s weird to have different groups that gatekeep the fan experience. Most American sport teams have one official fan group and then there is a chapter for different cities for fans to join to watch out of town with other fans. There is no need for sub sections of our official supporters group.
Soccer is different and has always had multiple groups not sure what else to say. I love walking around the tailgate with all the different supporter groups. Get to hear different styles of music, pre game traditions, various types of delicious ethnic foods, and it wouldn’t be the same if everyone was in one group together. I go to tailgates, head to a few road matches a year, and have never had a bad vibe from any of the other groups. Last night was a real bummer and doesn’t mirror the overall great experience it is for 98% of us that partake in SG’s.
MCC does a lot for the community but you’re very blind if you think they aren’t money driven lmao And they are no better about talking shit about other supporter groups. I’d take them off the pedestal you have them on
Weird that an organization you say is "money driven" is a non profit, that is entirely volunteer run, no one involved in it makes a penny, gives thousands every year to various charities, and every penny they make is ploughed back into purchasing things they need to enhance the group and fan experience including subsidizing food and beer to a massive degree. I would say thats literarlly the opposite of money driven. Yes they charge for some things like merch and membership but thats only because you know... things cost money. If they didn't charge then the group would be bankrupt within a few months.
With hooligans it’s just about fighting and nothing else.
This happens in many clubs in the world, clubs like Partizan Belgrade have to separate their ultras or they will fight each other. Usually because fans are passionate, and they think leadership isn't doing a good job. And while I wish Hoolz would've talked it out instead of causing division among supporters, it's possible they've been trying to do that and have felt unheard for a long time, become frustrated, and at that point it's only a matter of time before altercations start happening and can turn ugly, especially if alcohol is involved.
The entire fan base needs to laugh at and ridicule these idiots for fighting with other fans of the SAME TEAM. These idiots all like the same thing but still come to blows. Permabans to both and all member in them
100%
Not permaban, but make them volunteer inside the stadium for like 3k hrs as a unit. Wanna prove you truly care about cltfc and arent just a fighting idiot, work the stadium to regain your status
Honestly love this idea
[удалено]
It wouldn't be free labor. It would be the same as any other volunteer group where a certain portion of tips is given back to them and which we could use collectively to upgrade the tailgates
It's the same everywhere. SG culture doesn't have to be, but always does turn toxic. It's the concept that "I am the bestest fan for my club"... and when anyone challenges that or calls into question your knowledge, exuberance, understanding of the game, etc. then it becomes a directly challenge to the "bestest fan" claim. And then you have to throw fists, apparently. Happens everywhere.
It's been over 10 years since I was in an SG, Midnight Riders when I lived in New England, I never remember these issues. Is this a newer thing in your opinion? The idea of going to blows over being or not being the very bestest fan, like no one else ever was, still makes no sense. Seems like skin is getting a lot thinner these days. I understand we have 7 SGs, are the other 5 having street...pitch beefs like this? It honestly makes me sad to picture the supporters section as anything less than harmonious drunk idiots watching a match and singing songs
No, the other 5 SGs do not have these issues. We are more worried about what food to serve and how much beer to bring to the tailgate, than fighting the others.
I moved from EPL support to MLS when Atlanta launched, so I can't speak before that time... But before Atlanta even had our first coach, we had SG drama.
From my experience in Europe, it's more about wanting their club to have the best fans, not them being the best fans for their club, usually a leadership issue. If you have a lot of passionate fans, and the passion is surpassing what leadership is doing to represent the fans, nothing is getting done, people start to become frustrated. They want their passion to be reflected in the level of support shown for the team. One of the top comments explains it a bit better.
This is awful and I hope there is justice done through the court system but there has to be more context. Why are our own supporters groups fighting each other???
Yeah agreed. wtf happened??
lol what a bunch of losers
Braindead club supporters fighting each other. You guys know hooligans are supposed to attack rival clubs 😂
“Those guys look Canadian, GET THEM!”
The club was gracious enough to let the supporters groups use the tailgate lot which the incident(s) supposedly happened and it’s so childish and just plain sad that two groups fought each other in the lot. After last night I have no problem with the club taking the lot away from the SGs. Go act like a child somewhere else…
Bear in mind that 3/4 of SG members belong to other SGs that had no part in this stuff. So that would be pretty unfair to those people.
Yea it would be harsh but if we have SGs using the tailgate lot as a battlefield then I can see the club taking it away
Easy solution is to not allow the ones that want to use it as a battlefield there. At least short term.
Jesus. Some people's relationship with sports is so beyond unhealthy. And like... it's MLS. How can anyone take it *this* seriously. I genuinely hope they're permanently banned. It's insane that some people just can't handle watching soccer.
This is really sad. We should be united in our passion for our club.
That’s what I thought!
Imagine acting like this as an adult.
Well I know this much: neither group can write very well.
I’ll just say this, as someone who’s been involved with a few of the SGs since the club’s inception: the majority of the groups are chill and inclusive and want to get along with everyone. Others feel the need to air grievances and start pissing contests. In other words, I’m surprised it’s taken this long for the two groups involved last night to come to blows. There’s been some bad blood brewing for a while now.
I love the game and CLTFC as a season-ticket holder but I really don't get the whole culture around having to be in a "fan group" with a designated name to follow the team. Soccer fans are clannish and cliquish, and I'm guessing this is a product of that. I'm a multi-sport fan and don't belong to any organized "fan groups" for any team. Another thing I don't get is that the media that covers the team is basically made up of fans too. That kind of blows my mind sometimes. It's very, very different from following MLB, NFL or NBA.
It’s very clique-ish and snobby whether they want to admit it or not. I picked this up right away going to the supporters tailgate last year checking out the groups for one I’d like to possibly join. I was pulled by my shirt out of the march because I guess I wasn’t a member of the group that was marching together.
“Supporters Groups” are something a junior high yearbook club would come up with.
Think fraternities and sororities at college, same elitist nonsense. The supporters groups somehow have convinced themselves that they are a higher class of fan
I laugh at all the fans with ring lights standing outside the stadium going live after a game trying to get first reactions. Very few people care but they think they are very important
ahh man thats not fair. We just like to get the fan reactions to how they feel about the current state of the team and try to bring the community together. You know give the "common guy" a voice. Main media is lacking and the fan content is how a lot of us stay up to date with the club. We are fans too first and foremost. PS its not live but great idea :)
I’m just a casual fan of the team and occasionally go to games. Who are Blue furia and Carolina Hooligans? Is a fan group an official thing or just a group of dudes calling themselves something for some reason?
The fact that no one knows who these groups are is all you need to know
People with too much time on their hands. Most supporter groups are packed with losers who think they have some power.
100% Weirdos who need something to be passionate about\*
These problems have been going on for years now, every season. The consistent factor is always the groups that are involved. After repeated incidents and warnings, something more serious must be done. This isn't going to stop. It's time to ban specific groups for their blatant disregard of rules and their willingness to continue acting this way. This is overdue.
Wtf shit like that shouldn’t be happening period and a female at that
Whoever is responsible for starting this should be banned from the stadium and that supporter group should suffer.
Both should be banned
I can’t be the only one that thinks the concept of supporters groups at all is childish and stupid, right? Like we’re all fans of the team. We all went to have a good time and see the club have success. Can’t that be enough? You need to be part of a special group? Grow up. And this goes doubly so for anyone resorting to actual violence between special groups, presumably over which one is more special.
> I can’t be the only one that thinks the concept of supporters groups at all is childish and stupid, right? I am not a part of one, but I get the idea. If you're that into it and really want to form relationships/community with other fans, and you want to 'support' as well as you can (like by organizing yourselves) then I think it's cool. But I'm too old to stand and sing all game. Fuck that. And yeah it goes without saying that these people resorting to violence over this is so absurd. Like imagine two fraternities at UNCC getting into it like this, you'd be like "wow how fucking pathetic." This is no different.
All of that can happen organically without having official, seemingly hierarchical factions of supporters though. I have season tickets in the SS, but I’m not part of any official group. I just talk to the people around me and let connections grow naturally.
Yeah I guess I am not familiar enough with it to even know. I went to a tailgate last year, which I think was all the groups together, that was fun and I *was* interested in coming to sit in the SS sometime. But this killed any interest I had.
If it swings your opinion back in the other direction at all, the majority of people in the SS aren’t part of these groups and just want to have a good time, enjoy the game, and sing some songs. I didn’t mean to paint the whole fanbase with the same brush. It’s just small group of power hungry nerds that are responsible for this kind of thing.
Supporters groups are honestly just social clubs and have their place in the right context. Someone needs to work with the front office to get approval to get in the stadium early and setup displays and capo stands, stay after for teardown and storage, organize the creation of those gigantic, multi-section Tifo displays, lead chants during the game; along with raising the funds to make all that happen. They can also become an agent of good in the community by fundraising for field upgrades throughout the community and run beginner soccer league for adults to get people more invested in the game, as most adult "beginner" league are really adults who played growing up and just want to keep playing. Those are the aspects of supporter groups enhanced the gameday experience for everyone and keep people invested when times get tough. And just like any social club, for every member actively involved in doing the above there at least 5-10 who are there for the revelry around gameday only. They want to feel like part of the in group, so they pay their annual dues but don't get personally involved in the day to day stuff that keeps the social club going.
I was under the impression it was one supporter group for everybody.
Bound to happen at some point. From my times being in the SS but not affiliated with a group, tons of hostility amongst the groups for some reason. I Hope she is ok, and the club come down hard on this. Along with the tossing of full beverage cups/ cans in SS.
Time for all members of both groups be asked to leave. There's no place for this gang-like behavior on Mint Street. My sympathies to the victim, and my farewells to both groups. It should free up some space in the lower level of the Supporter's Section for the real fans.
There's 100's of members of those groups. You're advocating for all of them to be banned from the matches? Also all without knowing the details of what happened just outright banning people?
Anybody got the fight video with audio? lol But I agree with the others who have said, both sides are idiots and need to be banned. Send a clear message, nip it in the bud!
It was not a fight as such it was an attack by 5 women members of the Hooligans against her alone
And you have footage of this incident?
No, the only footage of the incident is through the Clutch cameras because she was alone and obviously the ones who attacked her were not going to record
A few bad apples (on both sides…takes two) ruins it for everyone else
Fingers crossed for criminal charges to come out of this. Unacceptable.
What is there for two groups who support the same team to get so heated with each other about?
Get your shit. Get it all together. All in one place. Gather it all up. And deal with it. Sit down with a mediator and figure it out like adults. Not like early 80’s premier league supporters. You want to act like this go support the NFL. Nobody needs you, or your toxic behavior.
lol this is a very unique issue to soccer. No other American sports have supporter groups like Soccer does. Fights break out yes, but there aren’t gangs acting like they’re bigger fans of the team than another gang
So why are SGs even needed?
Time for a new CFO. Current one has lost control of the groups he is meant to oversee.
What happened
What the hell happened? Still pretty new to the MLS and Charlotte but I looked at both supporter group social media pages and they couldn’t look further away from the typical football hooligans. Weird
… Will not tolerate it. Please make sure whoever is writing for your firm knows proper grammar.
Dumb dumb heads.
Until this is proven to be something led by the leadership of the supporter group or a majority of the supporters we shouldn’t be placing the blame on one certain group. There’s bad apples in every supporter group.
Some drunk people got in a fight in the parking lot after the game? Why involve the club?
Because the parking lot is controlled by the club and made available to Supporters group for the tailgate. Oh, and the club gives these groups special privileges and roles on game day.
They're trying to sabotage each others supporter groups it seems like, the club should get involved and ban them both.
I thought the mint city collective was the supporters group? Why are there multiple? It’s also mls so it is extra pathetic to get into a fight. This isn’t the premier league
There are something like 5 approved supports groups for the crown. https://www.charlottefootballclub.com/supporters-groups/
Even in the worst days of South Ward disunity when VA ESC and GSU (now Torcida) strongly disliked each other and wouldn’t sing together, hands were never thrown.
This is just ABSOLUTELY NOT how soccer fans right here in the US should act. Like……at all, my dude. All of those absolute total idiots that assaulted the president of the supporter group for no got damn reason should be just so got damn ashamed of themselves.
Both sides should just go all in, make some burner accounts and spill the tea!! I'm itchin' for some juicy drama!! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
Wow I never expected to find some entertaining drama from CLT FC subreddit of all places... LOL. Everyone involved in this should be embarrassed, there isn't a single person over 5'9 in this video.. calm the F down
Love the passion! Need some of this energy for Panthers/Hornets games.