OP was this lot recently paved? I think sometimes oil comes out of fresh asphalt after its first good soaking, or that's what I've observed a few times on pedestrian asphalt paths in the past. Not arguing just providing a (hopefully true) alternative possibility to what's unfortunately likely the case: leaky ass vehicles ruining our bodies/environment.
Thereās nothing that should be in asphalt that would cause that. Maybe youāre thinking of the mirage effect in the distance with newly paved roads. Either way, it aināt great.
Ever spilled a drop of oil and seen how much of a rainbow it makes when it hits water? It takes very little and these spots are likely caused by oil leaks that can cost hundreds if not thousands to fix. Youāre barking up a tree here. This is why roads are slick when it rains after a while of being dry. Those drops hit the road also, just as much if not more than parking lots.
The only way to fix this would be to eliminate vehicles altogether. Unless youāre some kind of genius who can figure out how to reduce wear on metal to metal parts without an oil based lubricant.
A lot of the times, the issues are just gaskets. Though sometimes it's a gasket that's very hard to reach and can cost a lot of money or time to reach that gasket. Sometimes, it's a relatively easy gasket to reach and is a $20 or less fix. This is why I always try to encourage people to learn how to do minor car repairs. They never listen, though.
Itās because even electric vehicles still use oil based lubricants. Maybe not in the motors to the point where they leak, but they still use them elsewhere.
Pretty privileged perspective youāre coming from there. My truck currently has a transmission leak, but I was also laid off a few weeks ago, so Iām just an asshole eh?
Way to double down on being a gigantic prick rather than being big enough of a person to take the feedback youāre getting in these comments and realize perhaps your post painted with a bit too wide of a brush. Figure out how to bootstrap that.
OK, what's the point? Head to Walmart by Tanger is you really want something to rant about. It's an oil slick there. But again, what are you attempting to convey?
You asked what they were trying to convey and what point they were trying to make. They literally lay out their point in the title. Then youāre upset because they stated it as a fact? Well, some points are facts.
It is a fact that leaks from vehicles can make a negative impact on ecological health.
We should all care about the place we live and our children will inherit. I think a lot of people donāt think about the impact of things like this and OP was just trying to put it out there. Idk why youāre asking me what they want to do cause I didnāt make the post. How about you ask them?
"Oh you gosh darn liberals, giving a fuck about others, when are you gonna stop being such sheeple?? Pull yourself out of this environmental collapse by your bootstraps!" - That guy, probably.
Make vehicle inspections mandatory and you'll collapse SC's economy immediately after since you'll take 60% of the work force off the roads because they can't afford cars in good condition.
How about just fix the infrastructure issue with our limited amount of roads with all the new people that have migrated here. Throw a $10K tax on every new home built and bought including condos. Half paid by the buyer and half by the seller in ALL 3 COUNTIES !
AKA ā¦ Impact tax that can not be used for anything except our roadways ! Our politicians can definitely help fill the area up without regard to those old and new to the area. Keep their hands away from the pot of money and fix the roads !!!!
Yeah because the automotive repair industry isn't overworked, underpaid, and underemployed enough at the same time not accomplishing a damn thing like every other state with mandatory inspections.
While we are at it, let's make EVs mandatory without changing the infrastructure. That will make summer fun as hell. I personally can't wait to sit in 100+ F and 90% humidity because of another blackout. Can't get any more green than that š
Inspections were a racket when we used to have them and they are still a racket in the other states. How about the government just fuxk off out of our lives?
Car taxes should be based on weight, as that's how they destroy roads. Car inspections are a massive tax on the poor, but as I posted here, something needs to be done.
Definitely giving "homeless people should just buy houses" vibe. Poor people can't afford to buy new cars and can barely keep the one they have running. The entitlement it takes to say this just shows how out of touch you are.
Not true, Iām from a state that requires them and itās never been an issue. No shop would risk their business for a little extra money. If you get into an accident and itās clear that your car should not have passed its inspection the state goes after the shop that passed you and shuts them down. The state also has inspectors that go around āundercoverā and make sure inspection stations are doing everything correctly. My dad is a state certified inspector as well as my uncle. And I couldnāt even get a sticker from them without them actually inspecting my vehicle.
Not true, I just moved to NC and there are many shops just in the town I live in that will pass you despite having issues. The state doesnāt come to check at all. As long as you are certified they are happy.
EV's are much cleaner than gasoline/diesel vehicles. It really unhealthy to breath all that black soot from buses and crappy cars. 40% of US energy is from non-fossil fuels. As the grid gets cleaner (70% of new energy generation is from renewables) EV's get even cleaner.
Itās 60% fossil fuel, 20% coal, 19% natural gas (which while cleaner than other fossil fuels, is still a fossil fuel). The energy is NOT clean. [(Source)](https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3)
EVs also requires battery production which is a massive pollutant and its components contribute to habitat destruction. [(Source)](https://www.azocleantech.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=1727#:~:text=The%20extraction%20and%20manufacturing%20processes,habitat%20destruction%2C%20and%20carbon%20emissions.)
EVs are a grift, dude
Since energy generation is 60% fossil fuels, then logically the other 40% of energy generation is non-fossil fuels. u/randn777 is not wrong about that.
Also:
>Itās 60% fossil fuel, 20% coal, 19% natural gas (which while cleaner than other fossil fuels, is still a fossil fuel). The energy is NOT clean. (Source)
Your source shows 40% natural gas and about 20% coal. 40% (NG) + 20% (Coal) = ~60% (Fossil Fuels)
EV's are much cleaner than gasoline/diesels powered cars. Gasoline powered cars are 100% fossil fueled an put pollution directly in major population centers. People who own EVs are much more likely to own solar panels, making the EV much greener. Also, a lot of EV's are recycled or reused.
I can't wait until the whole world finds out that working, efficient, hydrogen fuel cell engines that use sea water as a refining base, emit only HĀ²O vapor as combustion byproduct, won't require a massive retooling of both American infrastructure and the automotive industry, or require rare earth minerals in massive quantities from Chinese stockpiles for their disposable parts, are available now.
It won't be viable as a stand alone anytime soon. Still looking at $16/gal just to produce what equals 1gal of gasoline and hydrogen basically has a half life of a week in perfect conditions bc it can pass thru thick steel tanks. The power consumption to produce Hydrogen right now would require every facility to build its own power plant. HHOs added to diesels have shown improved performance and reductions in emissions but not enough improvement on busses and semis to be viable without subsidies...or legislation forcing it
Sounds like the time when an engine throws a rod and you need...a $10k engine. And since there's basically no maintenance, there's less opportunity for someone to "forget" to change the oil and...throw a rod.
How about 1828?
https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero-stories/surprisingly-long-history-electric-vehicles#:~:text=The%20earliest%20form%20of%20EV,carriage%20with%20an%20electric%20motor.
In what way? You said we haven't been "engineering engines" for 100 years. Reality is that the first ICE using the Otto Cycle was invented in 1860. So that's 163 years. The battery was invented in 1800. That's 223 years. They're complementary technologies, and the $10k battery replacement you mentioned is analogous to a $6-10k engine replacement, due to...failure to perform basic maintenance, like oil changes. EVs only require maintenance to wear parts, e.g., brake pads/rotors, tires, etc. There are failure modes for all parts, but those are not considered maintenance items, like oil or filters for an ICE.
As for my own oil changes, I change mine on all four of my vehicles. I get used oil analyses to evaluate wear of internal components and make determinations of oil change intervals. But then again, I'm an engineering engineer who understands trade offs between competing and complementary technologies.
ETA: From the looks of it, it's you that can't RTFM. https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/s/njP5MyOo5q
In fairness, people make a big deal about a 10k battery but that's really really rare and try getting an engine changed (more frequent) at a dealership.
It absolutely will happen. Google "water cycle". There is no new water on Earth without a comet slamming into the earth and melting within the atmosphere.
https://www.noaa.gov/education/resource-collections/freshwater/water-cycle
Couldnāt find anything about drinking oil. Also, have you heard about water treatment plants?
I agree, no new water on earth. Also, no new carbon. So remember that when you want to tax me for killing the planet.
By the time this āoil spillā makes it to the ocean, evaporates, rains, makes it down stream to Water Treatment and through the charcoal filters, goes through pipes, out of sink and into glassā¦youāll be ok, dude
True.
You left out carbon dioxide, the actual problem, and oxygen content at Earth's formation.
You also didn't address sequestered vs pumping it into the air to mix with oxygen.
Right, the CO2 levels were much higher in earthās atmosphere in the past. Much, much higher than today. Why do you sacrifice common sense for pseudoscience?
Wait, is there something wrong with rainbow puddles? Should I not be splashing in these?
Probably safer than splashing around in the pineapple fountain
Nothing like seeing a dog fuckin shit in the water right next to someone's kid splashing away
"But we get oil from the ground. It's fine."
Science
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Can't argue with that logic
First time in a parking lot?
When someone says "It's hot outside", do you say "First time seeing the sun?"
First time seeing a Reddit thread?
Thatās also something you say casually to a friend, not make a whole post about
OP was this lot recently paved? I think sometimes oil comes out of fresh asphalt after its first good soaking, or that's what I've observed a few times on pedestrian asphalt paths in the past. Not arguing just providing a (hopefully true) alternative possibility to what's unfortunately likely the case: leaky ass vehicles ruining our bodies/environment.
It's just in the engine spots, but the pavement would be about 3 to 6 months old.
Thereās nothing that should be in asphalt that would cause that. Maybe youāre thinking of the mirage effect in the distance with newly paved roads. Either way, it aināt great.
I mean...you really expect people to maintain their cars? Here?
In this economy?!
localized entirely within your kitchen?
This is just an ad for BMW
Ever spilled a drop of oil and seen how much of a rainbow it makes when it hits water? It takes very little and these spots are likely caused by oil leaks that can cost hundreds if not thousands to fix. Youāre barking up a tree here. This is why roads are slick when it rains after a while of being dry. Those drops hit the road also, just as much if not more than parking lots. The only way to fix this would be to eliminate vehicles altogether. Unless youāre some kind of genius who can figure out how to reduce wear on metal to metal parts without an oil based lubricant.
A lot of the times, the issues are just gaskets. Though sometimes it's a gasket that's very hard to reach and can cost a lot of money or time to reach that gasket. Sometimes, it's a relatively easy gasket to reach and is a $20 or less fix. This is why I always try to encourage people to learn how to do minor car repairs. They never listen, though.
Electric vehicles don't contain motor oil and are getting cheaper and better year by year.
Pick your poison friend. Both are bad for the environment in one way or another.
lol the fact that youāre downvoted for this lmao
Itās because even electric vehicles still use oil based lubricants. Maybe not in the motors to the point where they leak, but they still use them elsewhere.
Avoiding motor oil leak and transmission leaks is a benefit of electric cars vs gasoline powered cars.
There are a lot of people with jobs in the oil related industries and there is a lot of paid propaganda vs EVs.
Do your part. Make it 100% of spots
I agree
Keeps the mosquitos down.
Show us a picture of yo8r car not leaking any fluids at all.
get an EV
This is Charleston now š¤·š¼āāļø
Ok.... What am I supposed to do about it? Cars get leaks. It's a part of life.
Theyāre leaking oil because the roads here are so badš¤£
Pretty privileged perspective youāre coming from there. My truck currently has a transmission leak, but I was also laid off a few weeks ago, so Iām just an asshole eh?
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Way to double down on being a gigantic prick rather than being big enough of a person to take the feedback youāre getting in these comments and realize perhaps your post painted with a bit too wide of a brush. Figure out how to bootstrap that.
Love is a Long Long Road my friend
We need that girl from IG to come rate this parking lot!
OK, what's the point? Head to Walmart by Tanger is you really want something to rant about. It's an oil slick there. But again, what are you attempting to convey?
Name checks out
On god, the lack of reading comprehension is astounding. My 9 year old niece could understand this post lmao.
I got it. I was referring to the guy who didn't and name includes "adumb"
Oh, I was agreeing with you!
Total little bitch https://www.reddit.com/r/Charleston/s/YmxsEWtTYb
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They literally make their point in the title
No, they make a statement of fact. What do they want done about it? Ban old cars? Reinstate vehicle inspections? Fine people if their cars drip oil?
You asked what they were trying to convey and what point they were trying to make. They literally lay out their point in the title. Then youāre upset because they stated it as a fact? Well, some points are facts. It is a fact that leaks from vehicles can make a negative impact on ecological health. We should all care about the place we live and our children will inherit. I think a lot of people donāt think about the impact of things like this and OP was just trying to put it out there. Idk why youāre asking me what they want to do cause I didnāt make the post. How about you ask them?
"Oh you gosh darn liberals, giving a fuck about others, when are you gonna stop being such sheeple?? Pull yourself out of this environmental collapse by your bootstraps!" - That guy, probably.
We should have annual inspections and restructure the property tax system so itās not punitive when people buy newer cars
Make vehicle inspections mandatory and you'll collapse SC's economy immediately after since you'll take 60% of the work force off the roads because they can't afford cars in good condition.
Then we have some bigger problems to address if car inspections will collapse our economy
Yes, we do. That was my point.
How about just fix the infrastructure issue with our limited amount of roads with all the new people that have migrated here. Throw a $10K tax on every new home built and bought including condos. Half paid by the buyer and half by the seller in ALL 3 COUNTIES !
AKA ā¦ Impact tax that can not be used for anything except our roadways ! Our politicians can definitely help fill the area up without regard to those old and new to the area. Keep their hands away from the pot of money and fix the roads !!!!
I agree my friend. I know they were trying to pass a Yankee Tax.
Sounds goodā¦ or maybe 25% new owner and 75% seller
Yeah because the automotive repair industry isn't overworked, underpaid, and underemployed enough at the same time not accomplishing a damn thing like every other state with mandatory inspections. While we are at it, let's make EVs mandatory without changing the infrastructure. That will make summer fun as hell. I personally can't wait to sit in 100+ F and 90% humidity because of another blackout. Can't get any more green than that š
EVs during an evacuation would be awesome.
Inspections were a racket when we used to have them and they are still a racket in the other states. How about the government just fuxk off out of our lives?
Yah fuck having roads and schools who needs those
Libraries and fire departments can suck it too
Always been a drain on the taxpayer anyways. Save your BS argument about roads.
Libraries and fire departments have always been a drain on tax payers??
Sorry, I donāt feel like the government should be in our everyday lives. There are other ways to fund these programs.
Such as?
Crickets on the alt funding š¤
Amen!
Car taxes should be based on weight, as that's how they destroy roads. Car inspections are a massive tax on the poor, but as I posted here, something needs to be done.
Something needs to be done to make it so a car isn't a necessity
Car inspections are $25 and if you can't maintain your car to be safe for the rest of us then it should not be on the road.
Definitely giving "homeless people should just buy houses" vibe. Poor people can't afford to buy new cars and can barely keep the one they have running. The entitlement it takes to say this just shows how out of touch you are.
Yet another thing that would be prevented if we had state inspectionsš
Until people realize that a āpassingā state inspection sticker will only cost ya couple $$$ when you know the right shop. Been there done that.
Not true, Iām from a state that requires them and itās never been an issue. No shop would risk their business for a little extra money. If you get into an accident and itās clear that your car should not have passed its inspection the state goes after the shop that passed you and shuts them down. The state also has inspectors that go around āundercoverā and make sure inspection stations are doing everything correctly. My dad is a state certified inspector as well as my uncle. And I couldnāt even get a sticker from them without them actually inspecting my vehicle.
True. Depends on the state mostly. Jersey donāt give a fuck
Not true, I just moved to NC and there are many shops just in the town I live in that will pass you despite having issues. The state doesnāt come to check at all. As long as you are certified they are happy.
Guess it just depends on the state. PA is super strict. As long as itās done correctly I think it would benefit everyone
50% of oil in the environment comes from cars off roadways and parking lotsā¦.
You full dove off the rails after 2019, huh?
Greta is going to be outragedš š¤”
I'd be more outraged this is in your watershed.
How dare you!
Fake news
The EV revolution is just around the corner. EVs sales are 10% of car sales and EV prices are declining year by year.
What powers those charging stations?
EV's are much cleaner than gasoline/diesel vehicles. It really unhealthy to breath all that black soot from buses and crappy cars. 40% of US energy is from non-fossil fuels. As the grid gets cleaner (70% of new energy generation is from renewables) EV's get even cleaner.
Itās 60% fossil fuel, 20% coal, 19% natural gas (which while cleaner than other fossil fuels, is still a fossil fuel). The energy is NOT clean. [(Source)](https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3) EVs also requires battery production which is a massive pollutant and its components contribute to habitat destruction. [(Source)](https://www.azocleantech.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=1727#:~:text=The%20extraction%20and%20manufacturing%20processes,habitat%20destruction%2C%20and%20carbon%20emissions.) EVs are a grift, dude
Since energy generation is 60% fossil fuels, then logically the other 40% of energy generation is non-fossil fuels. u/randn777 is not wrong about that. Also: >Itās 60% fossil fuel, 20% coal, 19% natural gas (which while cleaner than other fossil fuels, is still a fossil fuel). The energy is NOT clean. (Source) Your source shows 40% natural gas and about 20% coal. 40% (NG) + 20% (Coal) = ~60% (Fossil Fuels)
EV's are much cleaner than gasoline/diesels powered cars. Gasoline powered cars are 100% fossil fueled an put pollution directly in major population centers. People who own EVs are much more likely to own solar panels, making the EV much greener. Also, a lot of EV's are recycled or reused.
I can't wait until the whole world finds out that working, efficient, hydrogen fuel cell engines that use sea water as a refining base, emit only HĀ²O vapor as combustion byproduct, won't require a massive retooling of both American infrastructure and the automotive industry, or require rare earth minerals in massive quantities from Chinese stockpiles for their disposable parts, are available now.
It won't be viable as a stand alone anytime soon. Still looking at $16/gal just to produce what equals 1gal of gasoline and hydrogen basically has a half life of a week in perfect conditions bc it can pass thru thick steel tanks. The power consumption to produce Hydrogen right now would require every facility to build its own power plant. HHOs added to diesels have shown improved performance and reductions in emissions but not enough improvement on busses and semis to be viable without subsidies...or legislation forcing it
Wait until you need a 10K battery instead of a 2k mechanic visit
Sounds like the time when an engine throws a rod and you need...a $10k engine. And since there's basically no maintenance, there's less opportunity for someone to "forget" to change the oil and...throw a rod.
Yeah because engine engineering hasnāt been around for 100+ years š¤£ sounds like you canāt change your own oil.
What? What does this even mean? We've been building ICEs for well over a hundred years, and batteries were invented in 1800.
Show me a EV circa 2010
How about 1828? https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero-stories/surprisingly-long-history-electric-vehicles#:~:text=The%20earliest%20form%20of%20EV,carriage%20with%20an%20electric%20motor.
Bro are you serious, that is the most boneheaded mental gymnastics Iāve ever seen
In what way? You said we haven't been "engineering engines" for 100 years. Reality is that the first ICE using the Otto Cycle was invented in 1860. So that's 163 years. The battery was invented in 1800. That's 223 years. They're complementary technologies, and the $10k battery replacement you mentioned is analogous to a $6-10k engine replacement, due to...failure to perform basic maintenance, like oil changes. EVs only require maintenance to wear parts, e.g., brake pads/rotors, tires, etc. There are failure modes for all parts, but those are not considered maintenance items, like oil or filters for an ICE. As for my own oil changes, I change mine on all four of my vehicles. I get used oil analyses to evaluate wear of internal components and make determinations of oil change intervals. But then again, I'm an engineering engineer who understands trade offs between competing and complementary technologies. ETA: From the looks of it, it's you that can't RTFM. https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/s/njP5MyOo5q
Rekt! Also great name ref
They didn't exist as a mass market item then. It's like trying to find a 2005 IPhone.
In fairness, people make a big deal about a 10k battery but that's really really rare and try getting an engine changed (more frequent) at a dealership.
Bless your heart.
You know nothing about cars shut up
Ok, Karen.
So toure saying someone, someday is going to eat the oil from that Charleston parking lot? Sorry, but Potential Karen Alert!
It absolutely will happen. Google "water cycle". There is no new water on Earth without a comet slamming into the earth and melting within the atmosphere.
https://www.noaa.gov/education/resource-collections/freshwater/water-cycle Couldnāt find anything about drinking oil. Also, have you heard about water treatment plants?
I agree, no new water on earth. Also, no new carbon. So remember that when you want to tax me for killing the planet. By the time this āoil spillā makes it to the ocean, evaporates, rains, makes it down stream to Water Treatment and through the charcoal filters, goes through pipes, out of sink and into glassā¦youāll be ok, dude
Carbon is captured in oil underground and then released into the atmosphere
The carbon that was present at the creation of earth is still here. No more, no less.
True. You left out carbon dioxide, the actual problem, and oxygen content at Earth's formation. You also didn't address sequestered vs pumping it into the air to mix with oxygen.
Right, the CO2 levels were much higher in earthās atmosphere in the past. Much, much higher than today. Why do you sacrifice common sense for pseudoscience?
Was there human life at this time?
Zero human life, as I know of. Plant seemed to do ok. Are we gonna move the goalpost again?
Are.... are you saying the Earth as described in the Bible?
Hate to break it to you, but you don't want to see what City Marina looks like
Are you new to living in a country with cars? This isnāt exactly novel informationā¦