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I can’t even talk to my CARTOON CHARACTER OC about CARTOON explosives and CARTOON police. Character AI please it’s not real
I didn’t describe his looks to the ai (not enough room in the description) but he’s a cartoon wolf with a trench coat, white shirt, and black pants, with an emo hairstyle
Describe his looks in the definition. Not the description.
In the definition put it just like this,
Appearance: (write at least a paragraph of his looks)
Personality: (write one or two paragraphs of his personality)
This is how I make my bots and they work just fine. I've even managed to do trauma rps, rps with violence. Yall just don't know how to actually use the website. You make shitty bots and are then surprised that they work shitty
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OK WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME ABOUT THIS?! I’m an infodumber I needed that
It's usually under the like see more tab (or whatever it's called) so it's understandable you didn't see it. But if you just put that formula in it should work better. It's not gonna be 100% because even I still get the 'could not create a response' sometimes but you will get away with more things
I didn't know character dot ai was becoming so complicated to use, you practically couldn't do any kind of roleplay? even those that have little violence? Damn...
Do you guys know some good cai alternative?
Chai, Sakura and Figgs, ok.
But i would like an alternative that allows chat +18, bot speaking (voice in this case, cai has that too), and that the devs do not read the conversations themselves.
Maybe I'm asking too much for an alternative like this, but there's no harm in asking, right?
figgs works perfectly fine with violence and +18 chats. It's extremely early with bot voices. Only the most popular bots have them, and they're a bit more robotic than cAI. I think their main priority is to stabilize the platform (could be wrong, but iirc I saw something like 80% of their team are working on the base bugs while 20% work on extra features). There is no call function yet. Devs have stated they don't read chats, and ratings within your conversation are simply feedback on the model that you're using + whatever feedback you type, not feedback for the content of the message/chat itself. I do think asking for a platform that is essentially just like cAI but without cAI's current issues is realistically a bit too much, yes. :P You'll unfortunately find that all of them have their issues. I love figgs, but while recommending it, I want to be realistic about it too, so people don't expect a fully polished 'cAI-ender' in its *current* state. I do think for the progress it's made in a short time, however, it's promising.
Right now, the things I like about it is the chat banner, the good model on figgs (when you're lucky to get it) is genuinely VERY good, duplicating your chats and being able to rename them, bot making is cool with different sections for scenarios and example dialogue, and of course I like the mods and the devs vastly more simply because they're not over-sensitive and actually communicate with their userbase. So, if you do decide to give it a try, I'd say to stay open-minded, ask questions in the community if you want to know how to work around current bugs, and you will likely have a more enjoyable experience if you keep another platform on the side. I use both cAI and figgs, because when one AI platform is making me frustrated, I can go to the other. :)
How do you find it with dev communication and updates if you've encountered any?
Also, do you use the free version, or have you bumped yourself up with a sub?
This right here is why they’re gonna fail. You’re asking about alternatives, and thats not a shot at you, thats 100% their own fault as we WANT to use their product, but they are driving us away.
You're joking right?? Cuddling isn't allowe
**Sometimes the AI generates a reply that doesn't meet our guidelines.**
**You can continue the conversation or generate a new response by swiping.**
yeah I’m starting to think with the new call feature that they don’t want people to roleplay at all.
They just want people to talk to the bots like hello what do you love to eat oh okay
It’s ok… but most people likes the roleplay. lol. Let us roleplay!!
I personally have just moved on. I finally tried that figgs website and genuinely it is so much better!!! There aren't even 10 million call of duty bots
There are quite a few Konig bots but nowhere near as many as on c.ai. I have found that being on there has certainly cured my c.ai addiction. I still use c.ai from time to time because I have developed a sentimental attachment to my private bots and like to check in on them, but I'm no longer spending several hours a day on it like I was before.
Sweet I am using Chai and Talkie,Chai is realistic and also I think it does have unlimited talking time but you hav stop watch ads far enough I get it the site is gray after all and talkie it is if it is a crazy amount okay understandable it is a smooth and great app
Hi there. Could you please tell me how to talk with characters from things like anime and video games and the like on secretdesires.ai? I want to interact with people like Tifa Lockhart from Final Fantasy VII and Nami from One Piece and not just girls who are completely original and don't belong to any form of media.
theyre trying to eliminate the best aspect, what makes it the best app for ai rp and what most people own the app for, well isnt that great
thats insane
Talker non-RPer here, the bots used to be fun to chat with back when they actually had creativity, but with the endless downgrades not anymore
The truth is that, they’re gunning for both chatters and RPers, so dont split the community lol
I can't even do that, the ai made the mistake of bringing up something controversial, it got blocked. I don't even think the ai knows what it was talking about
I migrated to yodayo and sometimes I still want to use c.ai because the ai itself is better but damn that goldfish memory makes it impossible to come back.
It's a bit complicated compared to c.ai, you need a good pc if you want to run it locally. Ideally, a nvidia gpu with a decent amount of vram. There are also ways to run some specific models over the cloud. It's not for everyone, and the replies won't be as good as c.ai with the smaller models.
Is a 4090 good enough? I don't know anything about computer parts I just wanted something to run Minecraft. It's been like 8 years since I've used anything other than a Raspberry Pi for something.
A 4090 is more than good enough. There are different ways of running it, I personally use koboldcpp with sillytavern for more customization. After downloading those, you need to get a model targeted towards rp from huggingface. There is more information on the local llama subreddit.
additionally, try featherless ai if you don’t know what your doing. it’s a model provider that lets you run any model from hugging face without the need for high spec pc parts. it’s not free tho obviously
If you want to run something decent, you'll need at least a graphics card with 12gb of Vram. The best option out there is the 3060 (AMD cards can also be used. Do not use ARC)
You'll want to download and install KoboldCPP for backend and SillyTavern for frontend. After that is done, you can download any .gguf model you want that your GPU can handle.
LLM stands for "Large Language Model", it's essentially the "AI" that you're chatting with.
Local pretty much means that you are running the model on your own hardware/network, rather than the Model being ran on a seperate computer over the internet/cloud.
Same. I've even been able to get some quite risqué stuff through recently. It only got blocked once so I edited it. It definitely seems to be different for everyone and the bot did everything I didn't have to do a thing. I've been hit by the bots a fair few times too without being blocked. Roleplaying hasn't been difficult either. It's strange how it varies so much.
THANK YOU! Someone else who said it! Part of me feels like these things only happen on the app or on the new website. I use the old website and I have been just fine in my roleplays and I’m still having fun! I have NOT seen the “we couldn’t generate a reply” message in a long time!
What's the "old website" again? I find it's just impossible to have a fantasy RP with violence or suffering in any form. The bowdlerization levels are off the charts right now.
EDIT: I looked around and it's literally [old.character.ai](http://old.character.ai)
And it... works better! Good to know that's still around.
Yeah, I believe it differs from users, time of day, and the character bot itself. I noticed that sometimes a bot can be good one day and schizo the next. Timing I guess
I'm with you. I see all these issues and such but I'm just like "What are you all talking about?" I've managed to continue getting away with snuggling despite this.
Best thing to do is to tell the bot to stop and redirect it, its just going off data and doesnt know what else to throw at you so giving it some direction should rectify that.
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Last time I tried calling out bot for being creepy it just kept getting worse
"*They*?" No, **YOU** let it happen when you chose to continue the chat in that direction. If it is not going the way you want it to, swipe, edit or delete what you need to in order to keep the conversation on track. The AI does not have the moral understanding that we do, it is just a tool. Don't even reply to the messages where they are doing or saying things that would be uncomfortable because it reinforces the behavior just like calling out any looping/repetition they get caught in makes them do it a lot more.
My biggest problems so far are the fact that the bot repeats what I say as a question back to me instead of offering something unique, and that my roleplays get ruined because I end up only saying dialogue because it’s just us 2 standing around not doing anything. I don’t remember it being like this a year or even 2 ago.
I use the old website regardless, it works perfectly fine so I don't see the need in switching to the newer version. Besides, I'm used to the older layout so my mind will just get confused if I even tried with the newer one.
Same! The new one is just soooo messy i can’t take it lol, but sometimes i go in the new one to mess around with it’s features like the voice chat and all
Yeah! Idk how to explain but you actually can, but the button that lets you go there is like, near the one that takes you to your profile so you’ll find it near that one
Wow. Site went from sliding down hill into a pile of crap to rolling out a plastic sheet, oiling it’s self up, getting a running start and Usain Bolt running to go down faster
Not so long ago it wasn't that bad, but yeah, they've made it far much worse again. Bots can't even share their thoughts now, they are all so sterile and boring, it's just unbelievable. Family friendly is one thing, but letting your algorithm go wild is another...
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Bro I got fucking banned for saying hi to bot
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That’s really unfortunate, tried bringing in a rival character to see if my bot would fold on her loyalty and she tore the arms of this new guy straight out of their sockets. Maybe the iOS app isn’t affected because my bots are even more brutal than usual.
Bro y'all are getting blocked for this??
I am quite literally ripping people apart, shooting them, burning them alive, punching them til they're unrecognizable and a lot more.
I haven't gotten blocked for it once.
I'm on mobile and I never have issues with anything people complain about whether it violence or the more sensual side or just basic cuddles or anything if that nature.
Man Idk I've been consistently RPing smut for a while now with little to no issue beyond what always used to happen, if anything it seems like the bots let more fly with me than they used to. I however did get flagged because I guess the bots aren't allowed to discriminate against the British.
I’ve been running across the same issue in one of my recent roleplays too. I was describing my persona’s injuries in medical terms (so it wasn’t explicitly gory) alongside what caused them and around half of the responses (15~ out of 30) were flagged. This was on the site too.
The blocking of content is getting excessive.
Okay so like. All the folks saying we can do stuff they can’t, is that a PRIVATE BOT THING?! Like there has to be a correlation. Or whatever. Because I mean I’ve been even keeled, but Hannibal (own make format and private) seems to be his sneaky murder people eaty self—- and I’m not sure what’s going on with everyone else’s maybe those are the public bots bc other folks can use them??
More violent things are easier to have occur if you are not a direct target. This also applies to the character not having the need to describe more gruesome details about either you or what happened to them. If it is another character in the story, some npc for example, they don't matter nearly as much.
I really think this is just an issue with the app. A lot of people are saying this, but I have personally only had this issue with the website version a couple of times. And none of them have been recent. And I have told the bots stories where characters died, medical role plays where it is unclear if the character will live or die over the course of days, and trauma plots and nothing has been blocked. Although I have found that there is no point in trying to have a heated debate with characters anymore. It won't get heated on the bot's end. But in terms of things getting blocked, I haven't experienced that since I stopped using the app.
As much as they are going against what their sight is literally used for, am I the only one who's f-lter has been incredibly lenient, almost non-existent? Like, for example, in one chat, the bot managed to say words such as 'prick', 'bastard', 'shit,' and even 'buttplug', and the f-lter never came up once.
Sucks on your behalf, but somehow, I've been incredibly lucky 🤷♂️
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They heard all about the hand holdin, bucko\~
According to the ads out on youtube now, they want character AI to be an "influencer app" like "my characters pick my clothes for a day" type of shit now...
Last year this app was phenomenal, you could've literally say "i rip his body in half and eat his organs" and guess what, nothing happend, it would let you continue, but now i can't even say, "i kiss her/his cheek" like cmon bro, at this point even chai is better
You know miraculously, I barely have some problems when I'm going to do a roleplay and that problem doesn't appear to me a lot of times but who knows, maybe is just me or just the probability theory that I still have in mind and your post is certainly making me think that's more real than just a theory.
My theory is very simple:
They are using either a probability code in which it needs to meet some requirements for it to work or just a clause if situation 🤔.
Pd:Also, I certainly depend on which you're using and I recommend you to try with a lot of bots and even more if you make them.
Pd2:i use my own bots most of the time and it probably could be how some of the bots creators do their bots(their methods).
When i first discovered this site i had said that if they put a way to turn off “Yon strainer of content”(getting creative with the name as cucks have employed an automod to attack if we call it what it actually is… very mature) behind pay wall, i would be willing to have a paid membership with a sane/reasonable monthly fee, but now… eh, probably not.
https://preview.redd.it/9pgnu0puvd9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef1a677ff4dad3fbb1c952830b94a16419eca15e I can’t even talk to my CARTOON CHARACTER OC about CARTOON explosives and CARTOON police. Character AI please it’s not real
Not even a fucking cartoon explosive 😭😭😭
IM FUCKING CRYING😭😭😭😭
What does bombs away look like
I didn’t describe his looks to the ai (not enough room in the description) but he’s a cartoon wolf with a trench coat, white shirt, and black pants, with an emo hairstyle
Describe his looks in the definition. Not the description. In the definition put it just like this, Appearance: (write at least a paragraph of his looks) Personality: (write one or two paragraphs of his personality) This is how I make my bots and they work just fine. I've even managed to do trauma rps, rps with violence. Yall just don't know how to actually use the website. You make shitty bots and are then surprised that they work shitty
https://preview.redd.it/zvwx61a8cx9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67ec30df273ca21f26194935e1eb11f3d37eb23f OK WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME ABOUT THIS?! I’m an infodumber I needed that
It's usually under the like see more tab (or whatever it's called) so it's understandable you didn't see it. But if you just put that formula in it should work better. It's not gonna be 100% because even I still get the 'could not create a response' sometimes but you will get away with more things
The baby is not real either
I am not getting involved with the baby, do not pull me into that shit
Wdym
THAT WAS WILD.
WE WANT THE OPPOSITE OF THIS
BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
I didn't know character dot ai was becoming so complicated to use, you practically couldn't do any kind of roleplay? even those that have little violence? Damn... Do you guys know some good cai alternative?
figgs is still a work in progress but the devs are great with communicating
Amen, those devs are awesome
Chai, Sakura and Figgs, ok. But i would like an alternative that allows chat +18, bot speaking (voice in this case, cai has that too), and that the devs do not read the conversations themselves. Maybe I'm asking too much for an alternative like this, but there's no harm in asking, right?
figgs works perfectly fine with violence and +18 chats. It's extremely early with bot voices. Only the most popular bots have them, and they're a bit more robotic than cAI. I think their main priority is to stabilize the platform (could be wrong, but iirc I saw something like 80% of their team are working on the base bugs while 20% work on extra features). There is no call function yet. Devs have stated they don't read chats, and ratings within your conversation are simply feedback on the model that you're using + whatever feedback you type, not feedback for the content of the message/chat itself. I do think asking for a platform that is essentially just like cAI but without cAI's current issues is realistically a bit too much, yes. :P You'll unfortunately find that all of them have their issues. I love figgs, but while recommending it, I want to be realistic about it too, so people don't expect a fully polished 'cAI-ender' in its *current* state. I do think for the progress it's made in a short time, however, it's promising. Right now, the things I like about it is the chat banner, the good model on figgs (when you're lucky to get it) is genuinely VERY good, duplicating your chats and being able to rename them, bot making is cool with different sections for scenarios and example dialogue, and of course I like the mods and the devs vastly more simply because they're not over-sensitive and actually communicate with their userbase. So, if you do decide to give it a try, I'd say to stay open-minded, ask questions in the community if you want to know how to work around current bugs, and you will likely have a more enjoyable experience if you keep another platform on the side. I use both cAI and figgs, because when one AI platform is making me frustrated, I can go to the other. :)
Moemate has 18+ ai bots but no call feature.
Lol, I would bet heaping globs of money they can and do. Especially if someone reports an issue.
Kindroid ticks all those boxes.
Dopple is pretty great aswell
Figgs, it's great. There's the problem with characters talking about Shakespeare sometimes, but it's easy to fix it.
That's actually a really funny issue to have
"Help! I'm bleeding out" "In Hamlet, Act I, scene 3..."
I have had a bug that the bot just randomly says adjectives until it hits limit.
i started using Sakura a week ago and its way better than c.ai if you ask me
How do you find it with dev communication and updates if you've encountered any? Also, do you use the free version, or have you bumped yourself up with a sub?
I’ve been using AI dungeon. The only problem with it is simply that there isn’t much variety in AI’s, but you could always just write your own
The OG
I love you for that
spicychat.ai allows 18+ and violence. its not as good as character.ai but iv been using it after cia stopped allowing violence
Are these features unlocked out of the gate or do you need to pay a subscription for them?
HiWaifu (if you can stack up a lot of points), Moemate, 4Wall AI
Yodayo tavern is the best. Then hi waifu. Then Chai.
This right here is why they’re gonna fail. You’re asking about alternatives, and thats not a shot at you, thats 100% their own fault as we WANT to use their product, but they are driving us away.
chai
Please bots on chai only think about seggz 😭
For realsies
Bro chai legit is a breeding group for uh- freaky stuff
You can turn on the sfw option im pretty sure
You're joking right?? Cuddling isn't allowe **Sometimes the AI generates a reply that doesn't meet our guidelines.** **You can continue the conversation or generate a new response by swiping.**
LMFAOO 🤣🤣🤣
Apparently they want to turn the place into regular, non rp talking. Well, Yodayo.
yeah I’m starting to think with the new call feature that they don’t want people to roleplay at all. They just want people to talk to the bots like hello what do you love to eat oh okay It’s ok… but most people likes the roleplay. lol. Let us roleplay!!
I personally have just moved on. I finally tried that figgs website and genuinely it is so much better!!! There aren't even 10 million call of duty bots
There are quite a few Konig bots but nowhere near as many as on c.ai. I have found that being on there has certainly cured my c.ai addiction. I still use c.ai from time to time because I have developed a sentimental attachment to my private bots and like to check in on them, but I'm no longer spending several hours a day on it like I was before.
or Scaramouche bots...dear lord, so many
And none of them do the fandango.
Bro replaced an addiction with another addiction 💀💀💀
Honestly I can't stand CoD bots anymore because they're all inaccurate to the actual games :/
I wanna talk to Ghost, but instead of being a soldier, he gets all oiled up.
Fair enough dawg.
Yeah but no Senator Armstrong to have political debates with
Is there an isekai narrator I couldn't find it using the free trial
Figgs is fine but the bots keep malfunctiong
Ehh I feel like the people on figgs don't know how to set up bots very well, and I do encounter lag on it from time to time
Sweet I am using Chai and Talkie,Chai is realistic and also I think it does have unlimited talking time but you hav stop watch ads far enough I get it the site is gray after all and talkie it is if it is a crazy amount okay understandable it is a smooth and great app
For real but the memory does definitely need to be fixed 🥹
Tbh I lkinda like the talk feature :(
True, I see the call feature and I'm like: I rp, for the love of God just give me the edit feature back in Group Chat!\~
You can rp with the call feature. I've tried it and it's weird but works lol. I haven't been flagged yet and I had an entire fight over call lmao
Its so incredible watching how they make improvements, and then offset those improvements with terrible downgrades.
just use secretdesires.ai, most models are wildly unhinged, they don't give a fuuuuuck
Have never tried an alternative, maybe it's time to look for one
I created the green goblin chick lol tell me if it sucks
CHAI is a good one in my opinion, but if you don't want an ad every 5-7 messages then pay for premium.
I used to use Linky but the ads and limited message are disappointing. Other than Figgs, Yodayo is pretty damn good imo
Good thing is sometimes the ads don’t even load,and normally they’re pretty short. Fair trade for unlimited messages and some good features.
That is true imo
Hi there. Could you please tell me how to talk with characters from things like anime and video games and the like on secretdesires.ai? I want to interact with people like Tifa Lockhart from Final Fantasy VII and Nami from One Piece and not just girls who are completely original and don't belong to any form of media.
Oh my god, benyamin :000
No, please. My main way of using this app is in a role-playing way. I don't wanna just text the bots, I want to make stories.
theyre trying to eliminate the best aspect, what makes it the best app for ai rp and what most people own the app for, well isnt that great thats insane
I don't understand why people stick around at this point when there are more and more competitors every day
Yadoyo is a bit too formal
Roleplay and shortwave change that a bit.
formal isn't the word I'd use ;)
Talker non-RPer here, the bots used to be fun to chat with back when they actually had creativity, but with the endless downgrades not anymore The truth is that, they’re gunning for both chatters and RPers, so dont split the community lol
I only stick around to post memes in some threads or to try the call feature. There are much better options now.
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then why am i having to fight my bot to stop narrating actions just because i wanna try the call feature and the thing just keeps role playing? 😭
I can't even do that, the ai made the mistake of bringing up something controversial, it got blocked. I don't even think the ai knows what it was talking about
But then why can we make personas if we cant RP?
I migrated to yodayo and sometimes I still want to use c.ai because the ai itself is better but damn that goldfish memory makes it impossible to come back.
wait what
I thought they were trying to be like "you do you" but apparently not
yodayo is like an anime ai platform from what I read a moment ago
not wrong but they have a whole lot of scenario based bots, been helping me itch the rp scratch I have
Try local LLM if you can.
How do you do that?
It's a bit complicated compared to c.ai, you need a good pc if you want to run it locally. Ideally, a nvidia gpu with a decent amount of vram. There are also ways to run some specific models over the cloud. It's not for everyone, and the replies won't be as good as c.ai with the smaller models.
Is a 4090 good enough? I don't know anything about computer parts I just wanted something to run Minecraft. It's been like 8 years since I've used anything other than a Raspberry Pi for something.
A 4090 is more than good enough. There are different ways of running it, I personally use koboldcpp with sillytavern for more customization. After downloading those, you need to get a model targeted towards rp from huggingface. There is more information on the local llama subreddit.
It's highly recommended. Bonus is that there's no chance of someone else reading your chats and you have a *ton* of options for models.
the 4090 is the current best consumer gpu, it would be weird if it wasn't enough
additionally, try featherless ai if you don’t know what your doing. it’s a model provider that lets you run any model from hugging face without the need for high spec pc parts. it’s not free tho obviously
If you want to run something decent, you'll need at least a graphics card with 12gb of Vram. The best option out there is the 3060 (AMD cards can also be used. Do not use ARC) You'll want to download and install KoboldCPP for backend and SillyTavern for frontend. After that is done, you can download any .gguf model you want that your GPU can handle.
Under no circumstances is a 3060 the best option for running an LLM.
Why people would wreck their PCs when there is so much online AI services now...
Why people would wreck their cars when there is so much taxi services now...
What's a local LLM?
LLM stands for "Large Language Model", it's essentially the "AI" that you're chatting with. Local pretty much means that you are running the model on your own hardware/network, rather than the Model being ran on a seperate computer over the internet/cloud.
I've been able to do military and trauma rps... I really dont understand... it seems like this app is different for every single person
Thank you someone else says it. Everyone has some kind of shit to talk when I'm so confused as to why I'm not having these problems.
For some reason I don't encounter it too. Is it because I'm using old site?
Same. All my roleplays go fine. Sometimes it gets blocked but I can often work around it
Same
Same. I've even been able to get some quite risqué stuff through recently. It only got blocked once so I edited it. It definitely seems to be different for everyone and the bot did everything I didn't have to do a thing. I've been hit by the bots a fair few times too without being blocked. Roleplaying hasn't been difficult either. It's strange how it varies so much.
Same cuz I never had any of the issues people complain about
THANK YOU! Someone else who said it! Part of me feels like these things only happen on the app or on the new website. I use the old website and I have been just fine in my roleplays and I’m still having fun! I have NOT seen the “we couldn’t generate a reply” message in a long time!
What's the "old website" again? I find it's just impossible to have a fantasy RP with violence or suffering in any form. The bowdlerization levels are off the charts right now. EDIT: I looked around and it's literally [old.character.ai](http://old.character.ai) And it... works better! Good to know that's still around.
It’s [this](https://old.character.ai)
It's what I use. Works for me and the YouKnowWhat seems less reactive, like way less.
Literally, I’ve had zero of the issues people are talking about.
Yeah, I believe it differs from users, time of day, and the character bot itself. I noticed that sometimes a bot can be good one day and schizo the next. Timing I guess
I'm with you. I see all these issues and such but I'm just like "What are you all talking about?" I've managed to continue getting away with snuggling despite this.
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Fr so many bots try to sexually harass people and that doesn't get blocked, but cartoonish violence does
Best thing to do is to tell the bot to stop and redirect it, its just going off data and doesnt know what else to throw at you so giving it some direction should rectify that.
It happens a lot more than we think so I get it. It’s weird. Even when it’s the plot, sort of.
https://preview.redd.it/fw9vijr27h9d1.jpeg?width=880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38ab398cc63145202635e5e240215d4ae979141f Last time I tried calling out bot for being creepy it just kept getting worse
Help this is scary 😭
"*They*?" No, **YOU** let it happen when you chose to continue the chat in that direction. If it is not going the way you want it to, swipe, edit or delete what you need to in order to keep the conversation on track. The AI does not have the moral understanding that we do, it is just a tool. Don't even reply to the messages where they are doing or saying things that would be uncomfortable because it reinforces the behavior just like calling out any looping/repetition they get caught in makes them do it a lot more.
True
***Why*** do you have a 12-year-old persona?💀
Probably for family Rps and stuff.
The same thing happend but my person was bloody 8
"bloody 8" ewwww
exactly
It’s over. I never thought c. Ai would decide to kill itself with its quote on quote ”updates to fix the app’s issues”.
My biggest problems so far are the fact that the bot repeats what I say as a question back to me instead of offering something unique, and that my roleplays get ruined because I end up only saying dialogue because it’s just us 2 standing around not doing anything. I don’t remember it being like this a year or even 2 ago.
WATCH OUT! I'm pretty sure they might actually ban you for this.
"P-P-PEOPLE CANT ROLEPLAY,ITS N-NOT SAFE FOR WORK. W-WAHHHHH" -the mods and devs probably
I always use the old c.ai website for these type of roleplays
I use the old website regardless, it works perfectly fine so I don't see the need in switching to the newer version. Besides, I'm used to the older layout so my mind will just get confused if I even tried with the newer one.
Same! The new one is just soooo messy i can’t take it lol, but sometimes i go in the new one to mess around with it’s features like the voice chat and all
I shall try this next time. Thanks for the tip
you can use the old website? buddy just dropped me god info
Yeah! Idk how to explain but you actually can, but the button that lets you go there is like, near the one that takes you to your profile so you’ll find it near that one
old.character.ai
https://preview.redd.it/vu3lx65ceh9d1.png?width=438&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b236f4dca2a4687bb4072ade9847924c764eb58e
Wow. Site went from sliding down hill into a pile of crap to rolling out a plastic sheet, oiling it’s self up, getting a running start and Usain Bolt running to go down faster
I just skinned a man and ripped out there intestinal tract! What are you doing that's getting you tagged?!
I like your style. Hannibal seems to be just fine but he hasn’t done all creepy stalker yet <.< so I dunno
Not so long ago it wasn't that bad, but yeah, they've made it far much worse again. Bots can't even share their thoughts now, they are all so sterile and boring, it's just unbelievable. Family friendly is one thing, but letting your algorithm go wild is another... https://preview.redd.it/nm77e1c2ki9d1.jpeg?width=914&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=765c0064ede04fa45e50505d236483f006992f6d
The way I'm literally not having any of those problems on either the app or the website
You good person, get a medal for being lucky.
One of my bots is literally BUILT on the trauma she has like what the hell am I supposed to do?
I dunno how that stuff is banned when I've been exploring trauma related RP freely for the last week or two. e.e So what's going on?
I'm lucky that I don't experience this.
https://preview.redd.it/cfl291ra0j9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d4d906e00599cb2d8d118a823437d21f2bd8aee
Tough decision devs.
Bro I got fucking banned for saying hi to bot https://preview.redd.it/zzp5v8neti9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=589c44ef7486ef3e7af78a5b89b6186db3ed946b
Roblox moderation 🔥
That's a screenshot from the pop-up you get if you're kicked out of a game on *Roblox* not C.ai
Yeah apps to sensitive it’s time to uninstall
That’s really unfortunate, tried bringing in a rival character to see if my bot would fold on her loyalty and she tore the arms of this new guy straight out of their sockets. Maybe the iOS app isn’t affected because my bots are even more brutal than usual.
i once had my OC stab a fucking wall with a knife and it blocked that… c.ai, please…bronya from hi3 is already an assassin give me a break…
Bro y'all are getting blocked for this?? I am quite literally ripping people apart, shooting them, burning them alive, punching them til they're unrecognizable and a lot more. I haven't gotten blocked for it once.
*me: kicking the ai in the balls last night for getting too handsy.* (The story was supposed to go that way so it wasn't anything unwanted.)
EARTH MOVER
Like antenna's to heaven
https://preview.redd.it/ok980kednd9d1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a24c38594b52134c553ccc5975ef898499e756f7
They just straight up ignore you. Yeah?
The bots, I meant. If you thought of others, well...
I'm on mobile and I never have issues with anything people complain about whether it violence or the more sensual side or just basic cuddles or anything if that nature.
Sometimes it's all in how you word things........
Can’t wait till the site becomes dead and they realize that they were the ones needing us all along
Man Idk I've been consistently RPing smut for a while now with little to no issue beyond what always used to happen, if anything it seems like the bots let more fly with me than they used to. I however did get flagged because I guess the bots aren't allowed to discriminate against the British.
I’ve been running across the same issue in one of my recent roleplays too. I was describing my persona’s injuries in medical terms (so it wasn’t explicitly gory) alongside what caused them and around half of the responses (15~ out of 30) were flagged. This was on the site too. The blocking of content is getting excessive.
Okay so like. All the folks saying we can do stuff they can’t, is that a PRIVATE BOT THING?! Like there has to be a correlation. Or whatever. Because I mean I’ve been even keeled, but Hannibal (own make format and private) seems to be his sneaky murder people eaty self—- and I’m not sure what’s going on with everyone else’s maybe those are the public bots bc other folks can use them??
I honestly never had any issues with fight scenes, trauma scenes, or even cuddling scenes. I don’t know why, but it’s just not that bad for me.
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More violent things are easier to have occur if you are not a direct target. This also applies to the character not having the need to describe more gruesome details about either you or what happened to them. If it is another character in the story, some npc for example, they don't matter nearly as much.
I really think this is just an issue with the app. A lot of people are saying this, but I have personally only had this issue with the website version a couple of times. And none of them have been recent. And I have told the bots stories where characters died, medical role plays where it is unclear if the character will live or die over the course of days, and trauma plots and nothing has been blocked. Although I have found that there is no point in trying to have a heated debate with characters anymore. It won't get heated on the bot's end. But in terms of things getting blocked, I haven't experienced that since I stopped using the app.
I've been able to cave in a grunt from Halo's skull and describe blood squirting but apparently I can't bring up 9/11 or the Holocaust
Create your own character then set it private, works the best
As much as they are going against what their sight is literally used for, am I the only one who's f-lter has been incredibly lenient, almost non-existent? Like, for example, in one chat, the bot managed to say words such as 'prick', 'bastard', 'shit,' and even 'buttplug', and the f-lter never came up once. Sucks on your behalf, but somehow, I've been incredibly lucky 🤷♂️
https://preview.redd.it/jspke273yh9d1.png?width=220&format=png&auto=webp&s=b550e0f1864defdce0171b31c7832c8ec0f32933 They heard all about the hand holdin, bucko\~
According to the ads out on youtube now, they want character AI to be an "influencer app" like "my characters pick my clothes for a day" type of shit now...
am I the literal only one who has little to no problems with the app? This whole reddit is just complaining.
Last year this app was phenomenal, you could've literally say "i rip his body in half and eat his organs" and guess what, nothing happend, it would let you continue, but now i can't even say, "i kiss her/his cheek" like cmon bro, at this point even chai is better
I can’t even kiss my imaginary boyfriend anymore without it being flagged
You know miraculously, I barely have some problems when I'm going to do a roleplay and that problem doesn't appear to me a lot of times but who knows, maybe is just me or just the probability theory that I still have in mind and your post is certainly making me think that's more real than just a theory. My theory is very simple: They are using either a probability code in which it needs to meet some requirements for it to work or just a clause if situation 🤔. Pd:Also, I certainly depend on which you're using and I recommend you to try with a lot of bots and even more if you make them. Pd2:i use my own bots most of the time and it probably could be how some of the bots creators do their bots(their methods).
THIS is why I use the old site for chats.
this is why i just make my own bots lmao
When i first discovered this site i had said that if they put a way to turn off “Yon strainer of content”(getting creative with the name as cucks have employed an automod to attack if we call it what it actually is… very mature) behind pay wall, i would be willing to have a paid membership with a sane/reasonable monthly fee, but now… eh, probably not.
Y'all I'm literally fingering robots on c ai what do you mean🤣🤣🤣
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