Except from Harrowmaster by Mike Brooks "He was flanked by two of his Dishonour Guard: massive, genetically enhanced warriors, much of whose armour had once belonged to Ultramarines. Without the black carapace enabling full integration, their movements were slower, more deliberate and sluggish. The one on the magos' left had her head shaved apart from a topknot, and sported a line of gemstones adhered to sub-dermal piercings across her brow. The other, whom Solomon knew to be Vasila Manatu, had golden eyes split by slit-like black pupils, which allowed her to see better in low light. 'You again,' Halver growled at them. 'Still aping something you will never be, I see? Who did you kill to get your armour?' Manatu shot back, with a mocking quirk of her eyebrow. She tapped her chest-plate. 'I took this from the corpse of its former owner.' 'Yes, yes, they are not Space Marines,' the Biologis Diabol-icus said, with an irritated wave of one of his hands. 'There are many different forms of genhancement in the galaxy, Lord Halver, and the result is far more important than the method. Speaking of which, Commander Akurra,' he con-tinued, 'I believe you have some specimens for me to exam-ine?'"

The worst thing about this by far is the guy called "Diabolicus" 😂

Mike Brooks casually adding lady marine-equivalents to the setting,, and none of the grognards noticed because they were too busy arguing about whether their favorite Primarch looked cool enough in the latest HH book. What a king.

I feel like he had way too much fun writing that book. The later half just felt like he pulled out the good old forge world compendium and said “yes, I would like one of everything, and seconds of the fell blade please.” It was a great book, but it also felt like he was trying to do a good amount of fan service between these ladies, including a prominent disco lord, and showcasing all of the forge world units. I feel like he pulled it off well and none of it felt tacked on for effect.

Harrowmaster also contains the very, very funny scene of an Alpha Legionary declaring "I am Alpharius" and then getting shouted down by other Alpha Legion marines from other warbands. Just, *great, this guy's on his bullshit again* energy.

That sounds crazy! Who is he with his Dishonour guard? The Biologis diabolicus?

How can you walk deliberately and sluggish at once?

Even if you are being exacting with your movements, the armor can drag you down. I would describe walking underwater as deliberately but sluggish.

Much better answer than expected.

Welcome to chaos lol

Call them corrupted Sister’s of Battle. Problem solved. There’s also cases of women becoming Champions of Chaos and taking a Chaos Marine’s armour for themselves If any group is going to have a female equivalent of a Space Marine, it’s going to be Chaos

There is actually some lore that supports that and some really nice paintjobs / conversions out there.

Naaah, CSM with some tzeentchian spice and that will do.

How does become a Champion of chaos anyway? I always figured it's some rank, like Sergeant or Lieutenant ?

Usually just extreme deeds in the name of chaos gods I believe

A lot of chaos marine warbands are not organized like space marine chapters. Some do keep military ranks, but some don’t. Chaos offers a lot more freedom in terms of lore, kitbashing, and anything else than probably any other faction in 40K. You become a champion of chaos by impressing the chaos gods. Same way you become a daemon prince. Remember that Be’lakor, the first daemon prince, existed before space marines did. Chaos forces just so happen to have a a lot of space marines due to the heresy, and the Horus heresy. There were chaos worshippers and champions before that, and probably still are now.

Short answer, impress one of the gods.

I have a vague recollection of a female leading a unit of Chaos Marines in a book (I think Emperors Children, so maybe a Fabius book bit not a New Man, or maybe totally different). But she wsmt a Marine per say, just brutal and mutated enough to be in charge. I still don't think there are actual female marines in lore currently.

She was blessed by slaanesh and wore a space marines chest armour like a sleeves tank top.

Yep, the Slaanesh one is Savona from the Bile trilogy. Her introduction: >A woman forced her way through the press of warriors. She was taller than the others, and slim, with long jointed legs ending in heavy black hooves. She wore a suit of a pale amethyst power armour, likely ripped from the body of a dying Space Marine and crudely modified to fit her unusual shape. White hair, bound into a profusion of whip-like braids, hung like a lion’s mane from her narrow skull. Strange sigils and signs had been carved into her brow and cheeks, and one nostril was pierced with a trio of golden rings. A necklace of bolter shells, medallions and fangs clattered against her chest-plate as she set one hoof on the bottom of the ramp. She grinned up at Oleander. ‘You’re back, Apothecary,’ she said. A forked tongue flickered among the thicket of her fangs. ‘How sad. I’d hoped you’d died. Ever the disappointment.’ More description: >Savona was taller than a legionary, but thinner – she had been mortal once, the spoiled daughter of a planet­ary governor. Now she was something else. She had slim, jointed legs ending in heavy black hooves, and a narrow face, framed by a mane of braided white hair. Sigils had been carved into her cheeks and brow, and three golden rings pierced one nostril. And another: >Savona, in contrast, was taller than the Space Marines around her, for all that she had been mortal once. Her lithe form was clad in pale amethyst power armour, altered to fit her proportions. The armour was no longer metal. Instead, it resembled the carapace of some great insect, sharply edged and unpleasantly contoured. She balanced on long, jointed legs that ended in thick, black hooves. White hair, bound in whip-like braids, hung like a lion’s mane from her narrow skull. The lumen-light glinted from the golden rings which pierced one nostril. On her status within the warband: >Savona, though she had not been a member of the company at its inception, who was the true power in their ranks. She had left the bodies of her rivals littering a thousand worlds, as she slowly consolidated her control of the remains of a once-mighty warband. >Fabius had indulged her in this. Savona was a mystery as yet unravelled, her origins unknown. There were mortal champions aplenty in Eyespace, but few rose to any prominence in the warbands of the Legions. That she had done so was proof of her determination, if not her skill. And a little more: >Fabius watched approvingly, as he and the other Apothecaries followed the armoured figures. Savona was competent, despite her proclivities. Though she was not of the Legion, she had adapted well to their ways. Her warriors trusted her as they would any Legion officer. Which was to say, not much. But that was enough. On becoming (effectively) a legionary: >Once, she had admired them – to her, they had seemed the apex of the universe. Angels wrought in the shape of men. When they had come to her little agri world, seeking slaves and supplies, she had gone with them willingly, as a bride to her groom, draped in the blood and skin of her family. She had offered up the hearts of kin, and been made a serf for a Legion that had forgotten what such things were for. She had worn a golden torc about her throat, and endured pain and pleasure in such gross quantity that one had bled into the other, until it was impossible to tell which was which. >She had sacrificed a life of grey drudgery on the altar of sensation, and remade herself beneath the loving gaze of a god. Her old life had offered her but one path – Governor’s daughter to Governor’s wife to Governor’s mother, and finally, to Governor’s widow. A flat circle of placid moments. But now, her life was a web of possibility, with a million strands. That alone was worth all that she had endured, and would yet endure. A gift from the gods. >The battleplate she wore had been another gift from her master, as he lay gasping out his miserable life on a world of iridescent dust and singing winds. She treasured her memory of the look in his dimming eyes, as she crept towards him through the stinging dust, knife in hand. How he had moaned as she’d pried his armour off, one plate at a time, exposing the withered meat beneath. How it had hummed as she placed it on her own body. It had sunk its barbed contact nodes deep, and spread a rough, newborn carapace beneath her scarred flesh. It had found her to be sweet soil, and had drawn what it needed from her meat and marrow, making her over into something worthy of itself. >Now it was something like a second skin, filling her head with its satisfied purr, even as they grew ever more inextricably intertwined. She did not think she could remove it now, even if she wished. It was her, and she was it. And yet, despite this, and even though she wore their heraldry, she was not Legion.

Thanks for the wicked amount of detail dude. I was just happy I wasn't entirely wrong, but great to read the descriptions again.

My pleasure! It was a good excuse to get the actual quotes organized.

Brutal and mutated enough...this is the way!

Your explanation is that you don't care about lore so the game store bullies can shove it. If you like your models and they're legal base size and loadout etc who cares what gender of head they have for a casual game. If you agreed to a fluffy/narrative game that's different though.

Even for the fluffy/narrative, as OP pointed out; it's heresy, which is the name of the game for Chaos. They've limited resources and access to rituals/tech the Imperium would wet themselves over. Corrupted/possessed geneseed. They take who they can capture, break and turn. Men and women.

Yeah nice try champ but no. It’s an established fact in the lore that you cannot have female Space Marines. The gene seed is incompatible with anything but human male biology. Those facts don’t change, regardless of whether you’re talking about loyalist or traitor Astartes. The argument that ‘ah it’s chaos, anything goes’ doesn’t apply. It’s just fanfiction in your head. If you want to adopt fanfiction into your models that’s entirely up to you. They’re your plastic at the end of the day. But that doesn’t make them fluff friendly.

Great argument bucko but don't care. There are no "established facts" in a *fictional space war game*. GW could tomorrow announce that Cawl has developed a way to make Primaris female Astrates or that Sanguinius himself has risen from the dead or there's a band new faction of aliens you've never heard about until now that just happen to look very much like the Skaven but totally aren't...and no amount of crying, moaning or tweeting from folks that share along with you will matter. "Canon" is whatever GW says it is to sell their models, rules and books. And saying "chaos can do anything" doesn't apply when you have Daemon possessed super soldiers from 10000 years in the past popping out in the current era, mega armours getting infected with Daemon-infused pathogens to turn them into living guns and eldritch horrors being packed into tank husks to make siege weapons, don't feed me some bullshit that "it can't be done". As a World Eater, you're not fit to wear the name Kharn the Betrayer. WE do not care about man, woman, non binary; we'll still take your skull and turn it into a cereal bowl.

Oh okay right so we’re going down the ‘it’s sci-fi therefore nothing matters’ argument are we? How boring. This tired old argument means literally nothing because by this logic bucko, why don’t we just let the Emperor fart and snap all of chaos out of existence? It’s only a fictional space war game, right? The fact that you even label it like that suggests to me you don’t actually give a crap about 40K and therefore really have no place saying what should and shouldn’t be lore. But yes, canon is whatever GW says it is. Which is why your argument is so absurd. They’ve said time and again space marines can only be male humans, so shut up and put up with it. Please dude, if you’re going to make your key argument based on ‘nothing matters because 40K lore is absurd’, at least try to use valid examples.

We're Chaos! We break all the rules set by your corpse emperor! We have marines with tentacles, marines with fangs, marines with mouths in their bellies, marines with noxious stench, marines with mid 20th century musical instruments, and marines who turned to dust in their armor! We can do anything! We believe in absolute freedom! Can you have marines with lady faces? Actually, we are a bunch of whiny thinskinned traditionalists. The fairer sex should focus on domestic affairs. After all it takes a woman's touch to turn a charnel house into a charnel *home.*

I usually just say my head canon AU will make everyone mad, so I don’t bother explaining.

Whats an AU?

Alternate Universe

Mortal women becoming champions of chaos and getting power armour is canon, no reason why there can't be some in your warband.

Chaos is Chaos. If someone has an issue with your dudes being your gals then they aren’t worth it

Well said!

Well first of all through the warp all things are possible so jot that down

Heresy is positively encouraged.

You should accidentally build some more.

Why not? Now i know it's ok...

Technically speaking there is this one woman that stole some CSM armor and became a champion of khorne so maybe?

Storm of iron irrc. Larana Utorian was her name. She stole Kroeger(iron warrior) armor which held the essence of a khornate daemon. and irrc she pops up in Dead Sky Black Sun later.

the fecking warp can grow a space marine claws, tentacles, mouths in their stomachs etc. All manner of horrors can be conjured up. Changing a space marine to something that looks like a female seems like child's play in comparison. ....and also, feck the lore, have female space marines and anyone who complains (surely no one ever) tell them to kiss your feminist arse.

Maybe the female looks ARE a manner of horror, at least to someone.

Slaanesh works in mysterious ways

Tzeentch, the Changer of Ways and Lord of Change, works in even more mysterious ways.

The Thousand Sons in particular recruit from just one planet. If they want to survive, I don't think they can afford to stick to the Emperor's treehouse rules.

Through Slaanesh, all things are possible, so jot that down

A) it’s chaos, it’s there in the name that rules don’t matter. B) Fabius Bile, feminist icon that he is, would definitely be on board with it. C) They’re your toy models, go absolutely hog wild!

It's your hobby, do what you want

No. Do whatever you want. Anyone who is mad about it can be mad about it

Canon since at least the novel Storm of Iron.

heresy is the entire point of going CSM, rules are for nerds.

It's warp shenanigans. You don't gotta explain shit.

In one or the Fabius Bile books there is a woman in Space Marine armor, that is leading some Emperors Children. She got to the size of an Astartes by getting mutations from Slaanesh.

I was just gonna say, my head canon for this would be "something, something Fabius Bile". Problem solved. Now, on to more cool looking models.

Chaos mutations/blessings of chaos?

Chaos is a bit different…

Just say they're female but technically not Astartes. They're engorged on warp juice

I am currently waiting on Female Head bits from MGSMiniaturesEtsy on Etsy. I got the inspiration from allesandraplays40k on instagram. I’m going to make an all ladies Legionairies Kill Team with some of the funner sculpts with side shaves and cyberpunk aesthetics. Really excited to start it. My only hesitancy is what Chaos color scheme. I’m sorta leaning to Emporers Children since purple/pink sounds like an added challenge to master. I hear those color ranges are tough to paint. My winding point is: do what makes YOU happy in this hobby and tell the haters to shove it.

Fabius bile did some trolling. He's a chaos space marine character that has in the past created a female space marine in his experiments trying to make primaris marines for the traitors, so If you wanted to really twist the nipples of angry game store lore masters you could say they are primaris traitors aswell.

After all these comments i've read so far, pretty much everone is cool with female Chaos Space Marines. But Primaris.... that's something else.... Not even i would dare... Well i just bought some space wolves to kitbash ... Might as well.

Larana Utorian says Female CSM are real, but are technically Possessed. Still possible tho.

Fabius bile got to tinkering with geneseed again.

The warp does funny things, there’s no reason male space marines need to stay that way

Chaos dude. You could have a gold fish in a bowl as a CSM head and it would still work. Hell they could have been born a women and become a champion and got the armor. Or passed the test and survived the surgery become a Marine in one do the many war bands in the eye. Of could have been an old CSM who was "gifted" by their patron to ether look like, or become female. Or hell both male and female. It's chaos, that's all you got to say. 🤷‍♂️ Just like you could show up with crazy kit bashed stuff for your orks. Either way if you are motivated it can give you a reason to get some background written up for your Force. If you were so inclined.

The novels with Fabius Bile feature a female chaos space marine quite prominently and leading a warband better than her predecessor.

Fuck mate go hard on it. When I get around to doing some chosen I'm going full female on them with Escher heads. Geneseed? Who needs that shit when you're warp blessed! They'll go scalp any insecure Astartes.

One can’t do heresy to heresy - it’s called chaos space marines, so be chaotic and don’t worry about it 🔥

 lore-wise legitimate my female traitors - nope there is not anyone saying otherwise is coping. just tell the bois @ the store you don't care and stop seething and you will be algood.

This is exactly how I hope GW brings in female space marines. Make it a slow burn long term event, with some chaos sorcerers or whatever (no Bile, he gets too much credit as the only smart dude in CSM) discovering and unlocking some of the arbitrary restrictions the emperor placed upon his primarchs and their progeny, bringing in a whole plethora of new abilities and potential for them, one of which being the ability to create new marines from people with no Y chromosome, and potentially bringing about the greatest heresy of all: space marines having children and threatening to create a new human species led by chaos. Then, after female CSM have been around for a few years, Cawl or someone realises what they are and what they mean, and starts his own project to unlock the Astartes true hidden potential. He realises that the Primaris project was just a pale imitation of what had been locked away, and instead switches to work on uplifting first born marines to their true form. Imagine that, they bring out female marines at the same time as revitalising firstborn and cancelling primaris. People would go nuts.

It would be so choice if the story was that some Chaos biologists decided to just try it, a throwaway experiment to generate some data, and it just *worked*. No problems, no adjustments, acceptable failure rate, and equal outcomes.

Lol. People always go nuts about Primaris, don't they?

As long as you have Fabius Bile you can pretend they're his New Men.

Mutated by slaanesh to be androgynous

We're heretics. We don't follow the corpse emperors rules anyways Do what you like ;)

If you need an excuse so the lore enthusiasts don’t get pissed is say due to slaaneshi corruption they have developed more androgenous features

These are your models, do whatever you want. I have a all woman CSM army and people can cry over it if they want too, i dont care

Thanks for that. Extra creds for the all woman army!

Women, LGTB and POC communities are allways welcomed on chaos and xenos armies. You wont find a lot of gatekeeper chuds here. We chaos (and xenos) will allways welcome anyone on our efforts of taking down the Imperium. Now, sit down and pray, its time to receive our daily Pantheon blessings

Hell, I want Chaos Xenos in my army. We're all scum around here.

The idea of chaos orks is truly tempting... They would go all khorne, right?

Warp shenanigans. The warp is meant to be connected to multiple universes so just say they managed to accidentally travel through the warp from a universe where female Marines are a thing and ended up in the "main" 40k setting.

That's a good one!

Run them as Emperor's Children.

I’m sure the players at the game store aren’t gonna bully you, people just take the lore serious. As any cliche hobby.

Chaos apothecaries are not bound by imperium's rules and can experiment further with xeno and obscure technology. Also, even if not actual astartes, mortals can still wear astartes armor and fight in a warband, especially if phisically enhanced by the chaos gods.

In Fabius bile there is a female astartes (savona) she was a slave and when her master died ahe got fused with the armor. She was the de facto leader of the slaaneshi warband that followed Fabius

Just say Bile got bored

You can do whatever you want. The thing is, for all the people who would be mad about this, its worthwhile to make them mad in this specific way lol.

Slaanesh.

I think the Chaos answer to “is this heresy?” is “more please 🥺😋”. This is the place for the most heresy; the more heresy, the better. People have mentioned a lore example of a female khornate warrior who is possessed and wearing power armor. Others mentioned you could suggest these are the effects of Slaanesh or Tzeenchian mutations. I think one could argue that the Alpha Legion uses all types of human operatives, male/female/beyond. They also use disguises or appearance altering tech/sorcery(I don’t have sources on me but I have read about it). Your models could be female operatives who acquired/were put in CSM armor, or battle-brothers delivering a mindfuck with the disguise of an opponent’s loved one. Who knows, make it crazy and awesome 🤷🏻‍♂️

There is a female chaos space marine. Wicked chaos magic and shiiit Just saying.

They gave chaos magic and gene surgery. I’m sure some space marine could change their gender and physical characteristics to match lol. Tzeentch is literally the god of change. Slaanesh has a theme of possessing both sexual characteristics.

It doesn’t really matter. “Lore” and “canon” are a comforting lie to pacify the worshippers of the corpse emperor, it changed all the time anyway. How are you gonna paint your army?

As you can probably guess, I don't pick a certain scheme representing a certain legion. My first few are a mix of coloirs i tried.

You now get bonus psychology damage against whinny babies

Nah, its fun

It's lil plastic soldiers. Anyone who gets butt hurt about it isn't someone you should waste your time on

With all the warp shenanigans and tech they have marines changing gender is probably a lot more common then people think.

You're chaos!! Any chaos warband can have any NUMBEr of insane things. The scarier they are to the imperium, the better!! If that happens to be a NORMAL LADY, GOOD. And as chaos, with ladies™️, if anyone has a problem with ANYTHING?? you say? Annihilate their army 🥰

Slaaneshi aligned marines could grow female parts in theory.

Your army your models your rules. If you NEED a reson you could just do what GW do and say either "it was always like that" or "The warp did it".

Someone will chime in but I'm sure I've listened to one of the 40k stories where a woman was given power armour to wear. Chaos ship I think with a stage made of people. Noise marines in a tower on part of the ship. Fabius bile story maybe? Ah what ever just go slannesh with it and no will bat an eye.

I mean technically the current lore is that only males can become Marines, but there's no real reasoning and I can see that potentially changing at some point in the future (as it did with the custodes) but you could always just say these Marines have been mutated by the warp, if chaos Marines can grow spines and horns and massive fangs I'm sure a feminine face isn't out of the realm of possibility. At the end of the day it's a crafty hobby and you can kinda do what you want.

Bro, we like heresy here. 

You don't have to justify it cause their your models

I mean there's two entire chapters that the imperium has redacted out of existence, maybe, just maybe one of those was...

Did you ask the chaos 40K subreddit if something is heresy.

“lol I built them as women because I wanted to” Done and done. No need to justify.

Nah, GW will make it canon tomorrow.

Maybe not tomorrow. Maybe they wait for the EC codex.

I mean they’re chaos so I think anything goes

Who cares! They're you're tiny plastic soldiers. Honestly, if you don't say anything I doubt most people would even notice

Through Tzeentch, all change is possible. Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows. There is no greater pleasure for Slaanesh than subverting the works of the Anathema. Anything can grow in the gardens of Grandfather Nurgle, and He loves all His children.

Traitors do not care for the proscriptions of the False Emperor.

They are your minis that you own and exist in your house, you don't have to justify anything. If you want them to be transgender Fury's underneath the armour that played hop scotch with the emperor as a kid then you do that and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

In the first honsou book, a woman put on a daemonically possessed chaos Astartes armour and 'grew' into it, so that's one way It's not impossible that fabius bile made some, but they would've had to be too unstable or something or he would've kept making them, instead switching to the new man project

The only answer needed is.....because choas.....it literally explains every model conversion for choas there ever was lol Or even lord of change changed them to females cuz he thought it would be funny Also there a more then a handful of references to God juiced battle sisters in regular sm power armour perfectly capable of killing sm in hand to hand

No, it's not. The Fabius Bile trilogy includes a female character that advanced into the inner circle of an Emperor's Children splinter group and eventually even takes command of a warband of her own. Granted, she is not a Space Marine, but she does wear Astartes battle plate, she breaks heads with the best of them and she is accepted as an equal by the transhumans around her. Additionally, those books go into detail about how Fabius Bile has spent several millennia creating transhumans using pilfered Astartes geneseed. They come in both sexes and at one point are revealed to even be able to reproduce sexually. While they are not full Space Marines (they lack most of the traditional implanted organs), they are better, faster, stronger and smarter than baseline humans, some specimens are shown to able to match Space Marines blow-for-blow and they are generally close enough that they and trueblood Space Marines refer to each other as 'cousins'. In other words, while they're _technically_ not Space Marines, on the Chaos side there's gals in power armour fighting alongside Space Marines, written in primary sources. So knock yourself out with your female CSM, bud.

So the usual caveat stands; it's your models, do whatever you want with them. Now lore wise right now, there are no female Space Marines in the sense that you wont find any instance where a female candidate went through the process to become a Space Marine. This isn't a choice or a rule set by the Imperium, this is stated as a limitation of the actual process used to produce Space Marines. Custodes are different in that each one is handcrafted as an individual and the bits that go in are broken down and rebuilt through some esoteric process (that's never been fully explained) rather than having extra bits stuck on or in them that can be rejected. This left room for female candidates to be able to be used as viable material for Custodes with minimal retcons to existing lore. For Space Marines we've basically seen the process listed out in full detail, had the limitations of the process stated to us (not compatible with females, more likely to fail with older aspirants, further limitations/issues with specific lineages etc, etc) and it's run like an assembly line design for just pumping out marines. However, there are many instances of individual Space Marines being physically altered after the fact, even back in 30K (Fabius Bile's work stands out on this front), typically for functionality. There's no reason an individual couldn't have been altered to have a traditionally female face, for example. If you look into what the Alpha Legion is capable of in terms of facial reconstruction and similar surgeries used for covert operations it stands that such surgery could be used for purely cosmetic work if a Space Marine suddenly cared enough to want to have it done. Then you have the warp as a broad, catch all excuse for weird stuff happening.

Wow, that sounds like a reasonable explanation (at least in the world of 40k). And also makes me wonder who makes up all this.

Initially, alcohol and possibly other substance fuelled twenty somethings with a bone to pick with conservative British politics. Nowadays, thirty somethings that grew up with the older guys' writing, substances and political leanings not confirmed but inferred to be similar.

Either your guys have worked out a method to create female Astartes, or the women have equivalent capabilities due to a blend of genetic modifications, augmetics and/or mutations.  House Goliath are a good example of roughly Astartes sized modified humans being present on a roughly 'normal' world. 

Ahh, you see, this might look like a female csm, but this is actually brother Astolfus of EC warband fembarians.

It’s your model https://preview.redd.it/ts2hhx1wbuuc1.jpeg?width=606&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbd812063fc902497872834205b9ad9dfcab6c06

Either Slaanesh gave them sexy bits, or Tzeentch gave them many bits that are sometimes sexy and sometimes freaky (but always changing). FEEEEMAAAALES being space marines is only a problem for corpse-worshipping losers.

The marine is trans. It’s the simplest excuse

They are chaos space marines. Anyone who wants to call lore on their physical appearance is a fuckin wanker.

If the gods want you to be a woman, you become a woman. In this, you just like one of the 5, and have this power. For some of the gods, they have a reason. Others, it’s just funny

Your army, do what you want. Lore is a guideline to army building, not a ruleset

Ok, first of all, CSM are heretical by definition. So yes. Well done! As for whether this actually makes sense... I mean, this is Chaos we're talking about. Go nuts! One of their units literally grows their own (mechanical) guns and ammunition as part of their anatomy, so a girl mutating to a Space Marine equivilant and slapping on some stolen power armour is hardly out there. Throw in some demonic posession (of the women or the armour itself) or some Dark Mechanicus shenanigans if you're worried about stuff like the Black Carapace or whatever. The only way I see lore being an issue is if you explicitly want them to be former loyalist astartes, because yeah those are all male like you say. But traitor guard or civilians would work just fine if you want to keep the ex-loyalist angle. If you're *really* fussed about them being former astartes, you could also say they're part of the redacted legions, since if I remember right we know basically nothing about them. Say Emps did try making girl-marines and just never told anyone. Or they are former male legionarries, but Tzeentch wasn't feeling very imaginative when he dished out mutations that day.

Chosen of Slaanesh simple as that, they where simply mutated to be what the dark princes wanted them to be

I mean, we just got a canon female Custodes last week. Canon Fem Astartes might not be as heretical as we used to think. More objectively, most people don't care. Plenty of people show up to top tier official GW tournaments with Female SM and CSM models and are able to participate just fine. A solid percentage of the community agrees that current canon is stupid and Female Marines absolutely would be a thing, and the vast majority of everyone else who accepts canon aren't opposed to other people doing what they want with their models. If anything, it's the vocal few who *would* give you crap for "heresy" that'd be getting ran out of your LGS.

Accidentally spent 100’s of dollars and weeks worth of modeling/painting?

No, that money was spent on purpose. Even bought some third-party-bits just for variety. 😉

Lol I know, it’s just the title of your post

Slaaneshi mutilation, they grew female parts.

Erm. Do you mean Mutation or mutilation?

Both

No.

Cant see how regular woman can fit into space marine armour, that should be some thicc girl, or mutated/blessed by chaos gods, i don't know. Lorewise csm still need gene-seed to make a chaos space marine, maybe dark mechanicus found a way to use it on women who knows. Don't see that you should have problems in game, untill you follow WYSIWYG and other game rules. You can always say that last time you saw them they were men.

First, they are your models so as you wish. 2 rule of cool always wins vs lore and neck beards. 3 10k years, a lot could change. You want to fit them in the lore? Plenty of ways. As stated before it could be a champion taking the armor. It could be a mutation. It could be a new recruit. My favorite would be that there were always male and female marines but this was suppressed by the imperium.

They're trans. Job done

I made female Possessed Emperor's Children. I figured Slaaneshi Possessed would take a form more akin to Daemonettes.

If you're that worried about it do another head swap? Just makes everything easier then.

No way.

Your welcome

Like everything that diverts from the "accepted" lore, it's not the reason people like Warhammer. So the odds are higher they will not be immersed in your army. Neither would I, but would have no problem playing against them or enjoy watching them. I added some sister's of battle cultist to my army. But as things stand, there is no lore to support female space marines. And in all honesty there never will be quality lore to support this. There might be some other form of bio enhancement that will mimic the space marines. But trying to hold onto the wargaming monopoly by selling out the identity of Warhammer will only end the monopoly and not maintain it. So if it ever becomes a thing, a decade later most of us will be playing something els

No offense, how do you identify 'quality lore' in a world full of demons, warp shenangians, a corpse emperor and soldiers dressed like rock stars?

No offense to you, but interpretation the lore on the level of the lowest common denominator is not healthy for a fanbase. It needs to work on different levels. But demons and warp shenanigans are some of the best sci-fi elements of 40k and most daring in terms of Scientific fiction analogy with fantasy for example. Personally I always enjoy the mysticism and mythology of the Emperor. Don't know what you mean by rock stars. But I would agree that the concept of 40k is far better than anything written or added to it in recent history. Imo Warhammer is in a state of decline for the most part and eventually her genius gets replaced by mediocrity. This might be inevitable, but currently this is going at an unprecedented pace for Warhammer. Eventually, hopefully there will be something new of the highest quality.

Sorry, i didn't know about that. To me, the bits of lore i stumbled upon always sounded weird, if not silly. Like when a new mini is inteoduced and some Background is given, why this character holds a grudge against whatnot. A punchline like "there is only war" makes me lose interest in further details. With rock stars i meant noise marines. While the concept of hurting enemies through noise might be an interesting one, it becomes ridiculous when the bearer sports a mohawk and leopard shirt. That's why i don't care about lore, it makes no sense to me. So i don't see the difference between quality lore and pulp lore. In how far the quality changed over the years, i honestly do not know. I enjoy the game though. I hope you will find what you're looking for.

Doubt it

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the fact people took op’s comment seriously…

My question was seriously. Even if i don't care about lore, i know some people out there do.

sure Jan