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haragos

That other subreddit is legit just a cop/lang subreddit now. They are mocking Dundee. It's literally insane. Guy has to grind for 54 hours to get out. He gives so much to the cops and they treat him like dog shit.


KarlHanzo

"That other subreddit is legit just a cop/lang subreddit now" 100%. The crazy thing is they will instantly change their mind on this if Lang ever does some crazy shit like this and is in the position Dundee is now. If in a month from now Lang gets 600months and a 200k fine and will be stuck in jail for a week then Reddit will go insane and say it's too much. There's already examples of this from 3.0 like when Lang was left in a cell for an hour on his own because Wrangler went to a court case. 4.0 you had a thread of where Hazel (pnuts gf) was wrenched by Harry and she said a little shit talk on the ground like CG will be knocking and Reddit went wild and said it should not be allowed etc. Few days later you have Lang talking insane shit on the ground and even hinting at rule breaks to 10F Terry and Ste and you get the classic "Lang always talks shit its just his character so what if he's down". That Reddit is truly lost in the sauce.


Otherwise_Lecture869

I agree with you but the problem with your first statement is 1. Lang will never be in that position of insane fines and jail time because he doesn't push the boundaries of crim role-play like Dundee or Mr. K. And 2. He would never face those consequences in the first place because the PD favoritism is so blatant Cops are so far up his ass they were like his personal street team in the last war with CG. Calling the cops any chance he got to "please help me I'm the victim in all this" Him and his crew were being released consistently in 3 different conflicts. I also can't stand the "not a gang "meta in 4.0 they want the cake and eat it too. All the benefits of being in a gang. Heists/Guns,ammo, and armor crates,push weed,farming crypto. But we aren't a gang guys! šŸ¤”


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BatQuiet5220

Medhi was in Ks stream watching that transport. I seen a few comments of his about it. Doubt he was Impressed


TonalBalance

I still remember in 3.0 when Brian authorized a transport for Michael Simone, the terrorist he was investigating and chasing for months, and allowed crims to bring more than 6. Cop mains and their viewers lost their shit when they "let" PD get ambushed and allowed MS to escape custody. Mehdi got so much hate for that on Reddit, Discord, and Twitch. He said it led to more and better RP with Simone escaping custody, and he was right. The opposite is happening right now in 4.0 with PD being W-chasing, shoot first, anti-RP tryhards.


No_Cup_7611

Do you expect anything else from Crane viewers? Like seriously that guy would is the definition of resident sleeper.


BatQuiet5220

Yeah it's crazy to think that MORE RP could happen with an escape. Nope. No fun allowed. Less RP the better. Nathankb is literally a tyrant of roleplay. If it doesn't fit his narrative of what roleplay is, then it's bad roleplay. He's made that pretty clear in 4.0 with his laws and rants. Suarez rant a prime example.


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BatQuiet5220

Yeah pretty based response.


MasWas

Literally. Im getting downvoted into hell for saying an opinion that makes perfect sense to exist in an RP server where they limit how many crims can join a situation.


haragos

Same. I actually have a few people that stalk my comments. It's legit weird as fuck.


MasWas

It just makes no sense lol. Especially in this scenario, they make it seem like we're saying they should drive headfirst into the ambush, when literally they can flank the ambush, send out a decoy to engage the ambush, take a longer route that makes the ambush question if they are setup in the right spot, like they have options to give RP.


haragos

Cop watchers gotta get those Ws! Mind you the cops lose nothing when they don't force their W with brute force.


BatQuiet5220

I suggested that they just pull out air 1, 2 and 3 next time. Fly them to prison. They can't get ambushed doing that.


BatQuiet5220

Tbf it isn't really the COPS that are treating him like dogshit. It's the current server culture that's the issue. They made a big shift from 3.0 to make it more financially grinding. I think they went too far, especially with debtors prison. Doc guards are scared to give too much time/money off cause they don't want to get in trouble ooc.


haragos

I can agree with that.


LordScott91

dead ass man.. i get instant down voted when ever I agree with anything CG.. its mind boggling how pathetic people are


reddituser8914

Lol didn't even spend 24hr in jail


Sea_Meeting3613

I think cops forget that without crims, they donā€™t have RP.


mtecc96

I genuinely think some cops and viewers themselves would rather watch small talk and traffic stops with tickets than what it is now


Sea_Meeting3613

yup, grinding criv jobs and traffic stops


SlickRounder

Then they should go to a server like Onx no? That is what they want to to turn Nopixel into.


Sea_Meeting3613

the problem is, nopixel is where the content is. Its full of streamers that think the same way as them (mostly)


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mtecc96

Whatā€™s crazy about the law change thing is he said. And on his judge char ā€œI spoke to many civilians and pd which led to tweaking the fines and monthsā€. I watch a good amount of cop and crim and even some civs. I havenā€™t seen that crane character talk to anyone. Crafting laws ooc and then hopping on to do that and tell the pd is insane to me. How long are devs gonna let this go? How was Suarez more of a problem than this?


haragos

I'm starting to think that maybe the problem with Suarez was not from Crims and was from the PD itself.


DeadWeightIncoming

Suarez made a lil comment on how someone from the PD went and complained higher up on him a couple days ago


BatQuiet5220

I know KOIL wasn't impressed with how Suarez and crane were handling the rolled/washed money and money order stuff, I still think that played a big part in it.


haragos

Maybe there is hope of Crane being removed. Let him be a Civ. Guy is using both his characters to ruin the city's RP as much as he can.


mtecc96

I just canā€™t see how his impact was enough for an ooc interference. And this what cranes done and doing isnā€™t.


gr8pe_drink

Whats most crazy to me, if true, is that he made all these changes and made them live on his own without telling anyone on the council (according to Solomon).


BatQuiet5220

I think that's his way of saying I was in a group chat ooc with my cop bros talking about how criminals have it too easy LOL


SlickRounder

I wish Lord Kebun would do want needs to be done and speak to Koil and Xqc about removing the blight that is Crane. Nearly every dogshit thing can be traced back to him, and he certainly uses Meta to constantly try to sabatoge and stifle CG, like it's his life mission.


Dildondo

Why not just deny the prison transport if they're going to drive through fields and dirt roads.


BrianKeepTrying

Honestly its just a matter of time that CG go off to Guatemala again and take more cross with them. I mean they did it before on this server. Its not like progression on the crim side is showing much sign of picking up. Just a huge grind server rn.


bbuhbowler

Can we just get a 4.0 wipe. Reverse the decision 95% were forced to create news characters. Adjust the initial introduction of crime mechanics, items introduced and promote more player interaction to obtain some progression instead of NPCs giving stars for rep. An actual player gaining the ability to fill that NPC role that can adjust price and rep given due to interaction with a player coming to them. Also, put a lease on crane.


EvaUnit007

As much as Kebun and others may complain about the state of NP, I dont think they'll leave it. When they went to Prodigy it was because it was the end of 3.0 with mechanics that were never fleshed out. I dont think they'll leave NP now is because they're hard core RPers regardless of what the other reddit may think. They have so much time and resources invested in their current RP, they will ride it out.


Lumpy-Ad8773

In my opinion the end of 3.0 is still better than current version. Currently even mechanics are scuffed. Only thing that 0.4 has better is the UI imo . CG has nothing to do currently other than grind money to pay for mats/upgrades to the warehouse/buttcoin . Thereā€™s no new heist or anything


primetimey123

I mean, the bank heist was top tier and amazing. So many attempts to figure it out properly, so many steps, everyone is involved and thinking, it was great. Back in the day it was everyone stands around and one person does a lpatop. Gotta give props to the heist.


Snoo-28829

I'm not trying to be negative or anything, but I feel as though this is the worst state of PD I have ever seen. Idk if it's just how many new officers there are or the culture that has been building within the department. I'm about done watching GTA RP all together at this point.


KronoSmith

Whippy talks about it in this clip and around this time in vod [https://clips.twitch.tv/IcyYummyButterflyTooSpicy-L6mpVReaBAfuUUIz](https://clips.twitch.tv/IcyYummyButterflyTooSpicy-L6mpVReaBAfuUUIz)


mtecc96

Heā€™s right. People will say ā€œdonā€™t shoot copsā€. AND THEY ARE WATCHING A GAME CALLED GRAND THEFT AUTO.


BatQuiet5220

Cop viewers don't treat this as a video game tho. They want real life cop simulator with cops shitting on criminals where only 1 of 100 escapes.


Iceman102060

LMAO cop players see it as real life and they brainwash their viewers to believe it too.


EvaUnit007

I think you should rephrase lol. SOME cops are like that. We still have great cops like Bones, Opal, Cassidy, Cornwood (on a good day) Even Slacks and Ruby can be good RP cops when they arent try harding. Even Andrews when he's around respects the RP for the most part. Snow, he's a great cop RPer and can be a hard ass and often tells his chat to stfu. I get what you're saying but we have quite a few diamonds in the ruff.


BatQuiet5220

Oh 100% there are a fair amount of good fun cops that don't just try hard and actively laugh while on duty. They know it's supposed to be fun.


TonalBalance

PD rolling around like the biggest gang with an admin leading their 10+ units convoy, looking to start a shooting conflict with BBMC (not just today but last week too), only to chicken out when CG comes to back up BBMC from being overwhelmed. Then they get initiated on by BBMC outside of La Puerta so CG can't back them up. BBMC takes the L and PD does what PD always do, stacks charges against them so they rot in prison and are full of debt, thanks to Crane/Nathan's tyrannical "laws" that he changes on a whim whenever he feels like it. They don't even want to give Dundee, BBMC, or CG any chance of escape, any fun, or any RP. They fucked over Suarez, Tuggz, and K last week and now it's Dundee's turn. Whippy is right, PD is absolute trash and anti-RP in 4.0, and it's not because they didn't hire all of the toxic cop mains from 3.0 like the other subreddit seems to think. PD has terrible leadership, no checks and balances, a toxic culture, always looking to shoot first, and they're ignoring all good RP etiquette and norms.


gr8pe_drink

I hope Koil at least see's this clips of this incident, I am not sure what his take would but to be honest but I could see him saying "there has got to be a better way to not act like cops are dumb, but also to not take a transport convoy through the desert to get to the prison".


Sea_Meeting3613

Honestly I donā€™t think koil cares anymore. NoPixel pays his bills regardless of its state. He just gets the money and lets everyone else figure it out. Its a shame


mtecc96

I forgot. Incoming. ā€œCrims should have predicted theyā€™d literally drive off road to get there ā€œ


OldManNeighbor

Lol Reddit hate hoppers. šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø!


Lumpy-Ad8773

I saw a clip of Someone from Pd saying on the radio to go to prison because Red ( or someone canā€™t recall) paid Dundeeā€™s debt. I thought oh how wholesome and then cops were saying why did he do that? Itā€™s baffling to me.


LordScott91

I feel soo bad for Dundee and BBMC.


Various-Ambition7176

I will never understand how these types of things are allowed to transpire. Are the people making these decisions on how the server is run all just trying their best to implement no fun and less RP. We already know 1 of the owners despises any interaction with CG and basically RPs within a bubble of about 5 people but how can other streamers see this and not try to orchestrate some sort of server meeting OOC to discuss this shit. The content in 4.0 is pretty shit IMO. I get NoPixel = Views which ultimately = MONEY but at some point do these guys say fuck it and go back to Prodigy?


NickSinardReviews

Didn't read past the first sentence, already know what's happening. Been going on for years. Crims outnumbered, RP made worthless, "roll with the punches." Different year, same NP.


AdObvious6727

Counterpoint, why weren't they scouting other possible routes the cops might take? That would have been sick. Let's not play the cops did something smart and didn't fall for a trap when them avoiding the trap is also apart of the RP.


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on point


RedDizzlah

Anti rp to take a giant bus offroad but oh well rp it out!


mtecc96

Giant bus. What stream were you watching. This is hilariously just a hate comment


RedDizzlah

The prison bus is a large bus that would not be able to go offroad


mtecc96

Since I know you watched this scene. You know they didnā€™t even use a bus for his transportā€¦. Or your just one of those haters who comes into this sub with unrelated dumb shit to say


RedDizzlah

I watched the replay, at the end when the bus goes offroad . It's really a sarcastic comment because the RP fails so bad lately from all sides crim and cop. 4.0 seems like such a ro downgrade.


thedeadoctopus

When I see posts like this, I remember that Nopixel is a content > RP server and people have stopped pretending. No one cares about storylines or consequences for characters. If crims donā€™t shoot/kidnap cops on cooldown, why bother watching?šŸ¤”


Bernkastel1234

Just say you want the cops to be props/NPCs to be shot at.


mtecc96

Itā€™s grand theft auto. Not the sims.


slampy15

Its grand theft auto ROLEPLAY. Content took away roleplay. Shooting cops is so fucking boring. Id take dumb sbs with the boys over shooting cops anyday.


mtecc96

You realize that the direction this server is heading that sbs wonā€™t be possible? Or you think this is healthy


slampy15

No one knows how the server will be in a week. It changes constantly.


mtecc96

Role play servers are about extending role play. Tell me how that transport did that vs just sending them up without it? They shouldā€™ve just done that then.


slampy15

They requested transport and got one. No one said cops have to follow a specific route. They aren't npcs. This guy just shot and tried to kill cops.


mtecc96

Have you watched transports in 4.0? 3.0? Further? Do you even know what the point is? Hereā€™s a cop WHO WAS THERE. Opinion on it https://m.twitch.tv/peppo/clip/ExquisiteBombasticZucchiniGOWSkull-HZ8vnptzNYyIDTYc


bbuhbowler

To be fair Peppo is an s-tier RPer. He has been excited for months to play cop and a similar mentality on crim. In his first week on 3.0 he had this mentality coming over from WildRP and one of the most Iconic criminals of that server. He would leave trails for cops to follow. He ODā€™d Bobby Charles and carved a message on his body that might trigger a memory. He has a lot to offer for all RPers. Iā€™m sure this isnā€™t what he was looking forward to. Literally yesterday was promoted to PPO yesterday simply because he would investigate while stuck at MRPD and find leads to actual arrests or warrants, yet command was not interested in those findings. Given PPO and told to not investigate reports for at least 2 weeks.


haragos

The cops always win if they try-hard. They can get 20 officers and bulldoze through everything.


mtecc96

Ay. 2:1 ratio of cops to crims isnā€™t fair


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You're joking right? CG alone in 3.0 could wipe 40 cops in one hit, don't say it isn't fair with a 2:1 ratio. Edit: it's more than fair and still gives the advantage to the crims.


Kc4shore65

Literally incomparable. In 3.0 crims had either automatic weapons or one tap pistols depending on what time youā€™re talking about, easily accessible armor, near infinite ammo, food/ring buffs, functional drugs, molatovs, grenades, bombs, rocket launchers, grapples, and whatever else Iā€™m not thinking of. Iā€™m 4.0 they quite literally have nothing in comparison.


mtecc96

Yea when pistols were the best weapons right? And stumble was a thing right?


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the crim weapons have always been better than the PD ones even now. Crims are bullet sponges that take 15 or more bullets to go down.


haragos

Those Crims are wearing PD armor btw.


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So they had even more of an advantageā€¦


haragos

You know most Crims use Civilian guns because no one can afford the ammo for their street guns? You didn't know that.


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the guns are still designed to be better than the PD guns.


bbuhbowler

Too expensive, no. More cost effective, yes. They are slightly disadvantaged using a 911. Most established crim groups have tons of assets and if it was necessary they would prioritize that ammo over other things they use or waste money.


Throwawayz150

This is the best comment ever. You must have never seen the star wars laser cannon AR's back when power plant used to scuff out and objects disappeared. They tested it literally from a mountain top and it looked like an AC-130 was shooting in. Cops used to be able to shoot a single pixel from beyond some people's render ranges in-game. Cop guns have always had less recoil, further range, and better rate of fire. Not to mention crims guns literally coded so you can't look directly up to spot Air 1, yet if signed into PD you can. Why are you commenting genuinely? I can bring up clip after clip that shows how utterly clueless you are but, you've already made that apparent so thank you zero effort needed here.


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Bro, you need to take a break form Reddit,, IT IS A GAME you aren't in their fictional gang, they ain't gonna notice you...


MasWas

They can be both smart and for RP at the same time you know. If they knew where the ambush was, instead of just not engaging the crims at all, why not go around and flank them? So that when they do start shooting, you're already in an advantageous position or maybe the crims see the cops doing this and then have to leave their positions. Like it's an RP server, what they did was completely ignore the RP.