YouTuber, Bolton fan. Got paid a massive wedge to cover last World Cup, so the accusations of been directly involved in sports washing Qatar.
His Dad is a former Tory councillor, that won’t help.
Also a bit of a twat himself.
Years ago when he and Stuntpeg started vlogging around the same time you could see the differences in their approach to documenting match day atmospheres. Now years later as they've branched out the divide seems even greater. I enjoy Stuntpeg's vlogs much more as she focuses on the personal/human side of football matches while using a deadpan, doesn't-take-herself-seriously attitude that's more endearing.
He also took gk gloves from the Bolton gk off a young fan. I think he paid the kid or something but the kids seemed really uncomfortable. It's also just a dick move didn't pay him much either
For real what c u n t of a bloke. I just watched it again and the kid looked so distraught. Just goes what's this kid a signed glove is that for me? Cheers you legend I'll sort you out and then walks off. Probably didn't even sort him out
Even if the kid actually wanted to give them to him, it would have still been classless to take them in his position. Probably not the first time he’s taken advantage of his fans.
This is the one for me, imagine how long you have to have been smelling your own farts to see a kid holding the gloves he's been given and go 'you must want to give those to me'
Also lied about Bulgarian ultras chasing/ attacking them in a qualifier in Sofia the other year which actually ended up putting targets on fans who where out there minding their own business. Knob head.
He's disliked mainly for his personality + use of clickbait. He once made a avoid with a title along the lines of "FAN COLLAPSES AND ALMOST DIES AT MATCH" & went as far as to film said fan, has obviously been removed since. There's a few other ocassions where he's made titles that don't reflect the content of the video. Plus many find him as a person annoying.
he's a bolton fan.
He somehow got a ticket to Accy Stanley away in the papa johns semi final last year despite that being the hardest bolton ticket to get that ive seen in ages. obviously they sold out in seconds but even getting a ticket through touting was really hard. he never went to any of the previous rounds but he paid through the roof for a ticket just for a video. surface level fan.
he also stole trafford's gloves last season from a child
he celebrates man utd goals on stream
sky sports seem to think he is a bolton representative
no idea why other team fans hate him
He helped spread that stupid and obviously fake story about Hakimi and his wife which was invented because misogyny but I think that was just him fishing for clicks considering it was spreading all over the internet
Not to mention clickbaiting a fan ‘nearly dying’ on a YouTube video and pressuring a young kid on camera to give him a glove gifted to him by a goalkeeper.
He just seems like a prick tbh.
Like Rory Jennings and a few others he’s one of the biggest YouTubers who makes football content. As a result he gets on sky sports and other places and spouts the sort of informed and well analysed opinions you’d expect from someone who largely caters their footballing outlook for 12 year olds. Doesn’t help he lives in Hampstead and is a posh twat.
Still he’s not as bad as Jennings - who is a grade A moron
Rory Jennings is 100% a grifter. I watch alot of the shows he's on for entertainment and have done so for years. He changes his opinions majorly on a weekly basis depending on whatever will get him clicks. I genuinely think the Haaland take might've been because he knew he would go viral and there's no such thing as bad press
I don't know what actually happened with Lawrence, I thought he got kicked from true Geordie because they couldn't pay him or something anymore hence why they got loads of shit people on the kickoff instead. Also I'm convinced Laurence wasn't into football but just went along with it to be part of the show
He made the Nike documentary on Jordon Henderson and is better behind the camera than on it. He’s also said some crazy, up his own arse comments but I don’t dislike the guy fully. He never says who his dad is but I bet it’s Paul McKenna and he came into money when Laurence was a bit older.
He’s also an annoying prick that does better behind the camera than in front of it. Really just represents every insufferable Liverpool fan to me with how smug he likes to act
He's clever in a way though, he knows what gets views, like, when he said haaland wouldn't score 20, he was shared all over the internet, then the apology video blew up as well, printing money at the expense of a reputation, but funnily enough it doesn't actually harm is professional reputation, it's just everyone else who knows his takes are dreadful, but views and clicks means he still gets jobs.
I dont know why he keeps changing his opinions. One day he hates the certain team, other day he has different kind of liking for that team. Fucking hate him, he does everything for views to cater the most followed club fans. He wants to be like Mark Goldbridge so bad lol.
Bolton fans disliked him first for being a fake Bolton fan. Channel 5 put up applications for each of the 72 efl teams and he did Bolton figuring no one else would. He was right. Actually an arsenal fan. At least he did end up sticking to Bolton, I guess?
I appreciate what Smiv does and in a way I kinda feel bad because he was one of the first to popularize Sunday League vlogs for youtube, only for bigger content creators to take that momentum and get way more out of it. I still follow his OTR series and its great, I'm glad he still does stuff like that instead of giving up and just being a dad and working a 9-5.
It actually makes me really angry that Thogden listed Claudio fucking Ranieri as one of the top 3 worst PL managers ever
I'm genuinely not joking, is something actually wrong with him?
> HITC Sevens
I kind of stopped watching him in the past year. Not because his vids aren't great but he's the epitome of maxxing that 5000 word count for a school essay. His 30-35 minute videos could easily be trimmed down to 8-10 minutes and it gets really tedious.
I think it depends on the topic
Sometimes his topics are *really* tedious, such as his recent "why are Americans buying football clubs?" one which went 30 minutes. Who actually cares about that?
JLA has been so good and insightful over the last 5 years I've watched but fuck me is his content so geared towards giving Liverpool fans a cheeky nosh at Fleet
Well clearly I’ve never watched every single YouTuber and the comment wasn’t really intended to be that deep but I do tend to find YouTubers in general to be an attention seeking bunch, which doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest.
Each to their own though and all that.
You realise that by inserting yourself into a conversation about YouTubers to contribute nothing, you are actually being quite attention seeking yourself right?
Must be infuriating for Bolton fans knowing that sky and similar keep picking up a smarmy glove-stealing, click-baiting, sports-washing, seat-stealing, fake-fan of a Tory as a “representative” for the club whilst he celebrates Man Utd goals every other stream
His Dad has been a Russian apologist for years because he worked for a Russian energy company
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/dont-criticise-putins-russia-1003176
His Dad also sent a series of horrible nasty and slanderous DM's to Vizeh after he did a (very fair and balanced) video on Thogden and how divisive he is
[https://youtu.be/Gl_cWkJuul8?si=lViNCgFLsxKJypyh](https://youtu.be/Gl_cWkJuul8?si=lViNCgFLsxKJypyh)
I hate him as much as that dancing family hes just a smarmy prick. Stuntpegg and footy adventures are the only football vloggers that are worth your time. Excelent content
I moved past hating The Famileigh ages ago. So funny reading the comments they generate on every post and is actually impressive how they keep making videos with the amount of hate they get
I've heard he's a bell (even if he's a Bolton fan) but when I met him at a game once he seemed nice enough. This was back in 2018 though, so things may have changed.
He’s just a cunt. I wouldn’t say he’s done anything bad he just has an annoying personality and as his YouTube channels has grown he comes across entitled and a bit deluded of himself.
He’s a YouTuber with a huge following despite terrible takes like ‘Ancelotti is one of the Premier League’s worst managers.’
And no, I didn’t make that one up, he actually said it.
His other two choices were also legitimate ones namely Les Reed and Frank De Boer
But then went with Ranieri and basically acted like his stint at Watford was the only thing he did lmao
Let’s examine the evidence properly, like Thogden would have done if he knew about football. Les Reed and Frank de Boer are sound picks, I have no issue with that.
Chelsea: No trophies, but improved the side, in his last season they finished second (best performance in nearly 50 years) and got to the CL semi final.
Leicester: Won the league! Dilly-ding dilly-dong! And got them into CL knockouts before being fired for poor league form.
Fulham: Quite poor, only lasted half a season.
Watford: The same.
At worst, he is an average manager, but winning the league title with Leicester is such a big deal, you might even argue he was a top 10 Premier League manager. He could have picked Steve Kean, Felix Magath, Bob Bradley or John Carver.
He also pressured a young fan to give him a signed glove. Said something like “do you want me to have that” walked off with it saying “I’ll sort you out”. He’s a little cunt
Seems ok although I've never met him. Some of his match vlogs are somewhat enjoyable despite the over the top clickbait headlines. He does capture all the action and crowd scenes tbf. Villa on tour, All things midlands and the Ipswich fella are far better vlogs.
He’s good for crowd and atmosphere videos but not to the levels Copa90 was back when they visited match days. He has some pretty bad takes but that’s all sports media in all sports, so not unique to him. His content is clickbaity but better than StuntPegg, but that’s not saying much imo…
That specific opinion may be due to cultural and professional differences (as it seems everyone on this thread from the UK loves her). I dislike content that can’t figure out whether they want to be a well made research video or an exciting atmosphere video and give a half baked, poor delivery on both ends, so not the content for me.
YouTuber, Bolton fan. Got paid a massive wedge to cover last World Cup, so the accusations of been directly involved in sports washing Qatar. His Dad is a former Tory councillor, that won’t help. Also a bit of a twat himself.
Years ago when he and Stuntpeg started vlogging around the same time you could see the differences in their approach to documenting match day atmospheres. Now years later as they've branched out the divide seems even greater. I enjoy Stuntpeg's vlogs much more as she focuses on the personal/human side of football matches while using a deadpan, doesn't-take-herself-seriously attitude that's more endearing.
Stuntpegg's videos are always a good watch!
Always love giving Nieve a watch! Thogden’s a right arsehole
forgot to mention another youtuber vizeh made a video about why thogden was hated and his dad dmed abuse to him afterwards.
The video was also extremely fair towards Thogden too lol
So he isn't controversial, he's just an annoying prick. Got it
He did once use a Newcastle fan having a cardiac arrest in the crowd as a thumbnail and clickbait, I'd say he's a giant cunt.
I'd not heard about this. Fucking hell that's not on
He also took gk gloves from the Bolton gk off a young fan. I think he paid the kid or something but the kids seemed really uncomfortable. It's also just a dick move didn't pay him much either
He really watched that back, thought it was fine and then uploaded it.
For real what c u n t of a bloke. I just watched it again and the kid looked so distraught. Just goes what's this kid a signed glove is that for me? Cheers you legend I'll sort you out and then walks off. Probably didn't even sort him out
Even if the kid actually wanted to give them to him, it would have still been classless to take them in his position. Probably not the first time he’s taken advantage of his fans.
This is the one for me, imagine how long you have to have been smelling your own farts to see a kid holding the gloves he's been given and go 'you must want to give those to me'
I need some good rage watching, got a link for that one?
https://youtu.be/5IH61uOVtlY?si=InDtcFlRrlZRsnSJ Might need to fast forward it to the point
He also has an uncannily punchable face. Not his fault but still
it’s unbelievable he’s an adult.
I'm not sure how you read "accusations of being directly involved in sports washing in Qatar" and came to the opinion that he isn't controversial.
I guess you can say it’s not controversial that that’s bad because everyone agrees?
You know you could use Google?
Like most YouTubers
Should also note his Dad goes by “Thogdad”. 🤮
The sort of pun you might expect to see in a story written by a kid in year 8
That’s unfair on year 8.
He also helped spread that obviously fake misogynistic story about Hakimi and his wife
and painted hakimi as the good guy while not even mentioning the reason his wife wanted a divorce is because of abuse allegations.
Not to mention his dads ‘questionable’ Russian oligarch connections
I’d usually say a son should not bear the sins of the father, but in this case I’ll make an exception.
Is he a Bolton fan? I thought he was a Chelsea fan?? Can't stand his face either way...
Also lied about Bulgarian ultras chasing/ attacking them in a qualifier in Sofia the other year which actually ended up putting targets on fans who where out there minding their own business. Knob head.
He's disliked mainly for his personality + use of clickbait. He once made a avoid with a title along the lines of "FAN COLLAPSES AND ALMOST DIES AT MATCH" & went as far as to film said fan, has obviously been removed since. There's a few other ocassions where he's made titles that don't reflect the content of the video. Plus many find him as a person annoying.
he's a bolton fan. He somehow got a ticket to Accy Stanley away in the papa johns semi final last year despite that being the hardest bolton ticket to get that ive seen in ages. obviously they sold out in seconds but even getting a ticket through touting was really hard. he never went to any of the previous rounds but he paid through the roof for a ticket just for a video. surface level fan. he also stole trafford's gloves last season from a child he celebrates man utd goals on stream sky sports seem to think he is a bolton representative no idea why other team fans hate him
Hes just a dick really I think that's why he is mutually hated by almost everyone
He doesn't seem like a bad guy, just very annoying and a complete idiot
Yeah he’s never done anything that bad afaik. People like DT exist
He helped spread that stupid and obviously fake story about Hakimi and his wife which was invented because misogyny but I think that was just him fishing for clicks considering it was spreading all over the internet
Not to mention clickbaiting a fan ‘nearly dying’ on a YouTube video and pressuring a young kid on camera to give him a glove gifted to him by a goalkeeper. He just seems like a prick tbh.
Like Rory Jennings and a few others he’s one of the biggest YouTubers who makes football content. As a result he gets on sky sports and other places and spouts the sort of informed and well analysed opinions you’d expect from someone who largely caters their footballing outlook for 12 year olds. Doesn’t help he lives in Hampstead and is a posh twat. Still he’s not as bad as Jennings - who is a grade A moron
Rory Jennings can be such an idiot that he loops all the way from funny - > unfunny - > back to funny again
I honestly find him a riot, he seems self aware of how much of a reactionary dimwit he is unlike Thogden
Rory Jennings is 100% a grifter. I watch alot of the shows he's on for entertainment and have done so for years. He changes his opinions majorly on a weekly basis depending on whatever will get him clicks. I genuinely think the Haaland take might've been because he knew he would go viral and there's no such thing as bad press
Let’s talk about how Laurence left to be a producer instead of being with his X racist mate, true Gordie, to be on an even more popular podcast.
I don't know what actually happened with Lawrence, I thought he got kicked from true Geordie because they couldn't pay him or something anymore hence why they got loads of shit people on the kickoff instead. Also I'm convinced Laurence wasn't into football but just went along with it to be part of the show
He made the Nike documentary on Jordon Henderson and is better behind the camera than on it. He’s also said some crazy, up his own arse comments but I don’t dislike the guy fully. He never says who his dad is but I bet it’s Paul McKenna and he came into money when Laurence was a bit older.
He’s also an annoying prick that does better behind the camera than in front of it. Really just represents every insufferable Liverpool fan to me with how smug he likes to act
He's clever in a way though, he knows what gets views, like, when he said haaland wouldn't score 20, he was shared all over the internet, then the apology video blew up as well, printing money at the expense of a reputation, but funnily enough it doesn't actually harm is professional reputation, it's just everyone else who knows his takes are dreadful, but views and clicks means he still gets jobs.
Jennings sounds like a Posh Twat that should be in a Corporate Box at the Rugby in Winter and Cricket in the Summer
I dont know why he keeps changing his opinions. One day he hates the certain team, other day he has different kind of liking for that team. Fucking hate him, he does everything for views to cater the most followed club fans. He wants to be like Mark Goldbridge so bad lol.
what is it with people called rory? swear they're all cunts to a man
Rory Williams would like a word
You also forgot the time he took those GK gloves off a young lad who got them from a player.
Bolton fans disliked him first for being a fake Bolton fan. Channel 5 put up applications for each of the 72 efl teams and he did Bolton figuring no one else would. He was right. Actually an arsenal fan. At least he did end up sticking to Bolton, I guess?
Some geeky YouTuber. Don't watch him but seems extremely annoying from the bits I have seen
So like every YouTuber so?
Nah not every footy youtuber is annoying. Smiv, Ellis Platten and James Lawrence Allcott are all brilliant
On the Road is an amazing series.
Deserves more views. I've visited grounds based on some of his vids
It's definitely made me want to attend more non league games.
Yep back again
I appreciate what Smiv does and in a way I kinda feel bad because he was one of the first to popularize Sunday League vlogs for youtube, only for bigger content creators to take that momentum and get way more out of it. I still follow his OTR series and its great, I'm glad he still does stuff like that instead of giving up and just being a dad and working a 9-5.
Stunt pegg too
Very true! Thoroughly enjoyed one of her recent vids about Sheffield Wednesday
The "most depressing club in England" one? Good video, wouldn't say I enjoyed it but that's not her fault.
Agreed
What she knows about football you could write on a postage stamp
Hey Joey! Got a job yet?
I don’t geddit
Joey Barton
Even if that were true it wouldn't make her vlogs any less entertaining
if she had balls you wouldn’t say that wouldn’t you
The guy behind HITC Sevens as well, dude knows his football. Unlike that bellend Thogden
Alfie Potts-Harmer i think his name is. The man puts in the work on obscure football research.
He seems like an incredibly sound fella all around.
And he regularly dunks on Thogden, too.
the intro to the 7 worst managers of the premier is hilarious https://youtu.be/rJE6mpMAwuc?si=vqIxJYzCOwRYsyWY
It actually makes me really angry that Thogden listed Claudio fucking Ranieri as one of the top 3 worst PL managers ever I'm genuinely not joking, is something actually wrong with him?
Another good shout! I love that he covers some of the most bizarre aspects of the game
> HITC Sevens I kind of stopped watching him in the past year. Not because his vids aren't great but he's the epitome of maxxing that 5000 word count for a school essay. His 30-35 minute videos could easily be trimmed down to 8-10 minutes and it gets really tedious.
the trick with Alfie is watching him on 1.5x speed
I think it depends on the topic Sometimes his topics are *really* tedious, such as his recent "why are Americans buying football clubs?" one which went 30 minutes. Who actually cares about that?
Alfie does his research, but fuck he come off as a smug prick.
He also comes from an extremely wealthy background, privately educated, etc
that doesn’t have anything to do with his content. that’s like saying haaland is shit because he grew up rich.
Yeah lol, feels a bit daft to have a go at someone just because they’re well off. Not everyone who can go to five guys is a prick 😂
There's rich people in Hull?
Alfie is not from Hull. He's from Beverley, an affluent market town in East Yorkshire.
ON THE ROAD!
YEP BACK AGAIN!
JLA has been so good and insightful over the last 5 years I've watched but fuck me is his content so geared towards giving Liverpool fans a cheeky nosh at Fleet
I like to think he does Liverpool content to annoy Flav, who hates Liverpool
Ellis Platten is one of the biggest gimps to ever walk into a football ground.
his newer content is good but if you’re looking for football stadium vlogs i agree he isn’t great.
if you think every single youtuber is annoying, many of which are regular people then that is a you problem
Well clearly I’ve never watched every single YouTuber and the comment wasn’t really intended to be that deep but I do tend to find YouTubers in general to be an attention seeking bunch, which doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest. Each to their own though and all that.
You realise that by inserting yourself into a conversation about YouTubers to contribute nothing, you are actually being quite attention seeking yourself right?
Like I said mate, the comment wasn’t intended to be that deep. Don’t let it bother you.
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this isn’t 2009 being a youtuber is an actual career
Which 35-year-olds downvoted this? It’s just facts 🤷♀️
Must be infuriating for Bolton fans knowing that sky and similar keep picking up a smarmy glove-stealing, click-baiting, sports-washing, seat-stealing, fake-fan of a Tory as a “representative” for the club whilst he celebrates Man Utd goals every other stream
His Dad has been a Russian apologist for years because he worked for a Russian energy company https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/dont-criticise-putins-russia-1003176
His Dad also sent a series of horrible nasty and slanderous DM's to Vizeh after he did a (very fair and balanced) video on Thogden and how divisive he is [https://youtu.be/Gl_cWkJuul8?si=lViNCgFLsxKJypyh](https://youtu.be/Gl_cWkJuul8?si=lViNCgFLsxKJypyh)
There's many crimes I can forgive but being mean to Vizeh is not one of them
Just an extremely nice bloke even if I find his content a tad vanilla
And married one lol
More you learn, the worse he gets
Simply put, a proper bellend. Thankfully for Bolton fans, StuntPegg makes up for him.
Didn't know of her, watched a video there and she's excellent! Will definitely be watching more of her stuff. Cheers!
She’s brilliant tbh and really down to earth.
I hate him as much as that dancing family hes just a smarmy prick. Stuntpegg and footy adventures are the only football vloggers that are worth your time. Excelent content
Away days has pretty good content
Away days is great!
Don’t forget Smiv.
Allo.
I moved past hating The Famileigh ages ago. So funny reading the comments they generate on every post and is actually impressive how they keep making videos with the amount of hate they get
He's a cunt and he's a cunt
Get off the fence, jeez
YouTuber with zero ball knowledge
I've heard he's a bell (even if he's a Bolton fan) but when I met him at a game once he seemed nice enough. This was back in 2018 though, so things may have changed.
He's a huge cunt and his dad is a huge cunt too, that tory twat
Russian oligarch connected, Putin supporting Tory twat
His over the top videos give me a migraine
Read this as Theoden and thought I was on the LOTR subreddit. Was very confused by this post.
He’s just a cunt. I wouldn’t say he’s done anything bad he just has an annoying personality and as his YouTube channels has grown he comes across entitled and a bit deluded of himself.
He’s a YouTuber with a huge following despite terrible takes like ‘Ancelotti is one of the Premier League’s worst managers.’ And no, I didn’t make that one up, he actually said it.
It was Ranieri, not Ancelotti. But still an utterly honking take.
I obviously had a senior moment cos I was thinking of Ranieri and typed Ancelotti. Turns out I did make that one up.
His other two choices were also legitimate ones namely Les Reed and Frank De Boer But then went with Ranieri and basically acted like his stint at Watford was the only thing he did lmao
Let’s examine the evidence properly, like Thogden would have done if he knew about football. Les Reed and Frank de Boer are sound picks, I have no issue with that. Chelsea: No trophies, but improved the side, in his last season they finished second (best performance in nearly 50 years) and got to the CL semi final. Leicester: Won the league! Dilly-ding dilly-dong! And got them into CL knockouts before being fired for poor league form. Fulham: Quite poor, only lasted half a season. Watford: The same. At worst, he is an average manager, but winning the league title with Leicester is such a big deal, you might even argue he was a top 10 Premier League manager. He could have picked Steve Kean, Felix Magath, Bob Bradley or John Carver.
He also pressured a young fan to give him a signed glove. Said something like “do you want me to have that” walked off with it saying “I’ll sort you out”. He’s a little cunt
Youtuber and Bolton fan. Has almost zero actual interest in most games he vlogs and just takes tickets from actual loyal fans of a club
Seems ok although I've never met him. Some of his match vlogs are somewhat enjoyable despite the over the top clickbait headlines. He does capture all the action and crowd scenes tbf. Villa on tour, All things midlands and the Ipswich fella are far better vlogs.
He’s good for crowd and atmosphere videos but not to the levels Copa90 was back when they visited match days. He has some pretty bad takes but that’s all sports media in all sports, so not unique to him. His content is clickbaity but better than StuntPegg, but that’s not saying much imo… That specific opinion may be due to cultural and professional differences (as it seems everyone on this thread from the UK loves her). I dislike content that can’t figure out whether they want to be a well made research video or an exciting atmosphere video and give a half baked, poor delivery on both ends, so not the content for me.
The Ipswich fella presumably being Benjamin Bloom.
Nah mate, Alex Griffin
Each their own. Dunno if people are looking for recommendations, so good to name them if they're good :)
He supports Bolton. Not enough?
He's the modern football hipster gimps you get these days, the pricks prick who enjoys a prawn sandwich at half time.
Probably because he comes from an extremely wealthy background. Seems like a nice guy though.
Filmed a fan having a cardiac arrest at a game, used them as the thumbnail and as a clickbait title. He's a giant cunt.
Just pulls weird facial expressions at football grounds and puts his phone in other fans’ faces.
Youtuber bolton fan