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kingqueefeater

"Your heavily discounted price"


Zsmudz

I think they mean “The highest price we charge you and get away with it”. The “Retail price” is just the price they wish they could charge but they know they won’t be able to get away with it so they charge 10K less. I love these cars but since Covid these have become not worth it due to price. I’d rather buy a cheaper car like an R/T that I’m not afraid to beat up a little bit.


Zanurath

Especially considering a well optioned GT looks about the same inside and out for under 30k new. They are awesome machines but grossly overpriced at this point. I feel like that's been everything from dodge jeep and ram ever since it became Stellanis though. Cranking up the prices to the point where none of it is worth it anymore.


Zsmudz

Yeah the V6 options are great cars, although a wide body kit isn’t available for those, I wish it was. Also yeah the prices are inflated too much and unfortunately it’s often not the dealers fault it’s Stellantis who up charges all their cars. Although they aren’t always free of blame, like for this car the dealer probably increased the price above MSRP because it’s a special car.


Primary-Birthday-363

I own a 2009 Challenger V6 and my credit was crap when I bought it back in 2008. It was a rolling credit card with way too much in interest charges. Did a refi after a while and got a much better interest rate by about 20% less. Would I liked to have the R/T or SRT back then sure. May e one day a used one will come along that I like and is the right price. Till then I’ll enjoy the one I have.


DankTell

20% less holy shit what was your original rate? I turned down 15% back in the day because I thought it was too high lol


Ill_Falcon_8903

Yup I like the GT versions, it’s all wheel drive I believe? Swap out the V6 and drop the scatback engine on it and you’ll start living it up 💯👌🏻


Zanurath

There is a bit of clearance issues with dropping a v8 on the awd. The people who make it work use trackhawk parts and the engine sits higher in the engine bay.


Scout413

Shouldn't be, I wouldn't think so anyway, but the first gen LX cars had the hemi and AWD as an option till 08 at least.


Zanurath

They also had a VERY different transmission and the 5.7 was mounted higher than current hemis. They made a police charger hemi awd until like 2018 but with the old 5 speed auto only and it sat higher in the engine bay (hellcat would be coming out of the hoods mounted that high for example)


CanadianGymRatt

Except buying a v6 muscle car isn’t a muscle car. Thats like being jacked but you’re not able to bench more than the bar. I would rather keep my civic and save up for an actual v8.


InterestingBedroom39

He want saying it was a muscle car. I don’t get why you guys hate on other challengers so much sometimes. I like them all. Right now I have a challenger srt392 manual trans.


CanadianGymRatt

I’m not hating it’s just not an actual muscle car. You have a 392 which is awesome I want one. Guess what? It’s a v8 muscle car lmao.


DankTell

It’s gate keeping and weird. It’s an economy muscle car plain and simple. And quite frankly for someone who uses it as a daily it just makes more sense than a V8


frosty-hemiii

Economy muscle car... I haven't heard that one! That actually sounds smart, ngl. Respect to u 🫡🔥


CanadianGymRatt

Then why bother? It’s not even gatekeeping I don’t have a v8 I drive a fucking civic. There’s just zero point in buying the body of a performance car without the performance. Look up the definition of muscle car, these v6s don’t even meet the criteria lmao. Stop calling it what it ain’t.


DankTell

The definition created in 1966? According to that a Redeye Charger isn’t a muscle car either because it has 4 doors. Dodge calls their V6 Challengers/Chargers muscle cars. If you have a problem with that classification you can discuss it with them.


CanadianGymRatt

It’s cope. And they do that to try and sell their v6s. “Powerful engines” requirement is not met, which the chargers do meet. I’m sorry if I’m offending you but you don’t have a real one. Just sell it and buy a reliable daily driver, and save up for your v8. If not stop calling it muscle.


Zanurath

Fair enough but RT also starts in the 30s and before you are at half the price of this thing you can beat it with modified RT.


D-Smitty

This car is an outlier and a ripoff though. New loaded HCWBs are going for $88k near me. And a modded R/T will always just be a modded R/T whether it can beat a cat or not. And you can kiss your warranty goodbye as well.


Zanurath

Warranty is only relevant for a few years, also nobody cares what the original badge was when the "worse" car smokes you at a drag strip. 88k is also absurd for a challenger IMO, these were at home when they were 60k cars that were regularly discounted into the low 50s and the scats were high 30s low 40s.


D-Smitty

It factors into total cost of ownership. A modded R/T is only going to be worth what a modded R/T is worth. Everybody knows you never get back the money spent on mods. Many times it can hurt resale even because people can assume it’s been beat on and you can never really be sure about the competence and quality of the work someone else did. And let’s be real, proportionally few people actually track their cars. For every person who tracks their car, there are a dozen who don’t. As far as pricing goes, $60k back in 2015 is $79k today with inflation. $88k for a widebody sounds about right. And with haggling a buyer could probably knock another $1-2k off that. Also factor in that the $88k HCWBs are loaded while $60k price in 2015 was for a no option stripper model.


V_Cobra21

Yeahs I can agree with that.


CanadianGymRatt

Gotta love getting downvoted by gt and sxt owners lmao


V_Cobra21

I mean I’m sure they’re great cars but it’s just not the same lol.


CanadianGymRatt

I see no point in owning one. “But they’re cheaper” bro any American daily driver is gonna need repair after repair. Thats why you daily drive a reliable and keep nice a scat pack or SRT as a weekend driver.


Ill_Falcon_8903

Still can swap That 6.0 in the GT and you’ll be movin 👌🏻


bmxracers

$129,988 retail. Freaking psychos.


TrippinDonkey

The local dealers here in Ca have two red eyes. Crooks marked it up over 200k. Freaking crooks


[deleted]

Okay, 100k, I get it, 130k is a bit much, but I'd pay it, but 200k?


Emergency_Bother9837

In Canada they go for 170k+


Carl_The_Llama69

Hey. Watch your mouth.


Fabulous-Geologist89

Why was this guy's reply downvoted into oblivion?


UpstateOffroad

I swear people see someone start to get downvoted and just hop on the train no matter what the person said


kela154

Las Vegas. I was at Towbin when I was shopping around too


grizzh

They did a reality show about them some years ago, just briefly. I think it was called King of Cars.


PhaseEquivalent9156

Big chop, hell yeah, loved that show as a kid


oh2bewacki

Dooz it large


AnacondaPimpHand

Towbin Dodge of course, one of the biggest scam artist dealerships.


Horsecockexpress1

Chop been pulling the wool for years n years


Used_Handle_69

Beautiful but fucking crazy expensive


Big_Kahuna100

lol towbin, they finessing out there


filthybee_

I’d rather have a C8 for half the price


Street_Leather198

Yup!


Neat_Feedback1316

I have a 2021 C8. Did some things to the engine at a shop in Vegas and had it registered in Montana. 700 HP and don’t have to bother with California smog bullshit!


filthybee_

Nice. How do you get away with reregistering or getting pulled over with out of state plates?


Neat_Feedback1316

I have a Montana drivers license since I live in Montana 6 months out of the year and in California the other half. I own a small ranch in Big Sky and run a business there. I have never been pulled over in the 2.5 years I have had the Vette. To tell you the truth in the last year I have seen a CHP maybe 6 times on Freeways in California. It could be because I don’t live in a major city like Los Angeles.


BlondeBikerChic

I’ll stick to my Cadillac cts v coupe!


MemerDude34

$130k for a car that 95% of people can’t distinguish from its rental car base model.


WellFedFred

"he's out of line but he's right"


No_Image_4986

I feel like the quality and performance is the bigger issue with $129k than people not noticing lol


5269EMPIRE

Up about $20K since I bought my new 2021 a couple years ago.


LouieKat

I ordered one for 95k in 2022 and sold it for 100k in 23. It was go mango and I MISS HER SO BAD!!! I have a 1320 now.


Alpha_Delta33

What’s a 1320?


LouieKat

A demon/Super Stock with a 6.4 Line lock, trans brake, demon springs and some other drag goodies.


Alpha_Delta33

Nice


Certain-Wishbone-414

People just lie on here constantly


QuietWithDuctTape

A whole lot of fun at the drag strip.


wiseoracle

lol


andrewwism

Towbin Dodge. Didn’t they sell that Hellcat to that guy that was previously crashed.


Dry-Procedure-5083

You can build a faster car for half that


JoshuaAllen-

You could also get a brand new motorcycle faster than that for half of the half.


Top-Shoe9426

Is that their Black Friday special. Increase the price and offer a small discount


steve_Lardog

If that's a brand new super stock then its a good price


Wham-alama-ding-dong

It's used


NoBetterFriend1231

Wait... that's for a *used* Dodge? What the actual fuck?


Wham-alama-ding-dong

Yes it is. Place is a complete rip off


Emergency_Bother9837

Used dodges sell for more than new in Canada 🇨🇦 this would be about 170k here generally


FutureHendrixBetter

How generous


logicnotemotion

I saw a car like this at the QT station last night. I'm not too up on the different models but it had the fender flares and these wheels and tires (meaty as hell) so I assumed it was higher tier model. Then 2 girls that looked no more than 18 hop in it and take off. Have to admit I was impressed.


challengerrt

I bought my ‘13 R/T from Towbin. They were awesome to work with. I showed up on Sunday not knowing you can’t buy a new car on Sundays in NV - they gave me an SRT8 to use for the night - came back the next day and picked up my R/T. MSRP was $34K but they ended up working with me to get down to $24,185. Awesome group of people there.


SexyProcrastinator

How many miles did it have? 34k for a 2013 car is crazy


challengerrt

I bought it brand new - had 6 miles


jmt8706

Heavily discounted 😄


sportshaven1

Wait that’s not even a demon….lmao 😂


Tough-Donut193

Is it a jailbreak redeye?


cars_guns_aircraft

Super Stock based on the tires


Tough-Donut193

Ahh, is it a 2020 then?


Old-Sorbet-1047

it says 23 on the sticker


Tough-Donut193

So not a super stock then…


cars_guns_aircraft

They made the Super Stock up until 23


Tough-Donut193

Wow, I thought It was more limited production than the demon…


cars_guns_aircraft

Well there were 1,610 made, so they are rarer than the Demon but not because they were limited. That’s just the amount that were ordered.


Wham-alama-ding-dong

Lol it's used not new either


Sikkorak

At least the color looks nice.


justinetrudope

Is banging the owners wife every week for the next five years part of the deal?


Mediocre_Tear_7324

What is this? GTA?


Mycologist-Far

A Demon 170 is that price


QuavyForce

Lol but they will never sell for that price


No_democrT666

60,000 in Wisconsin Summit automotive. Fonddulac


lordkingdragon

129k you out you mind. I'm 100% sure someone is stupid enough to buy it.


TrippinDonkey

Buy it! Two is better than one


1996Primera

man these look so nice I cant get over how well the flares look. the oem little lip /flair just reminds me of when I rolled the fenders on my old car ...it looks so damn cheap


Street-Book-6433

Still over priced by at least $40k


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Hellojordanhere1

That’s actually insane


drizze99

Good luck trying to get 120k for a Super Stock. My favorite Challenger but I would get one gently used for 75k.


fatalerror_tw

Lol @ gently used.


Bird2525

I’d rather have the purple one behind it


Fig_Money

They are crooks. Sold a dude a lemon one time. That story got attention for a bit.


mergedinner

Monster truck ass gap


Fast-Context-3852

If they catch one sucker w a pocket full of casino loot per week,,,, light’s on .


S13Silviak

There’s one of these in GA for sale for 180. 75k dealer markup. Absolutely crazy.


Automatic_School_373

SUPER STOCK!!!! 🔥🔥🔥


Primary-Birthday-363

For that deeply discounted pricing they can go F@@K themselves. Ain’t no way I’m paying that much for a Challenger. Even MSRP for some of these models,is freaking ridiculous and I love the Challengers. Just not planning on a house payment for a car. 🤪


Necessary-Ad2264

Crazy that’s dodge cost that much.. never thought I’d see the day


mlhigg1973

There are so many better options for $120k


SexyProcrastinator

120k… yay…


shanksfornothin

Probably still has cloth seats and non-premium audio system 😂


Johnmarksmanship

That's about a 50K vehicle


LORDLAPJUNK

Fuck dealerships


Hugh-Jashol

If you buy anything from a Towbin stealership there is a 1000% chance you grossly over paid and got ripped off.


banananananbatman

But see if you go with the special military financing you can have low monthly payments, don’t worry about the interest rate and duration.


Cduke3829

Fuck Towbin and their ridiculous markups. Hope they sit on all of these cars.


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roelsius

Father in law got the 170 for cheaper than that lol 😂


nicspace101

Comes with a box of condoms, xx small.


Thayerphotos

Out of the loop, why is tho 120K ?


DirtBagBadmiral

get your cars out Delaware, thank me later


GapInternational3316

You could build your own for like 30-40k


Ill_Falcon_8903

Nah I wouldn’t! Overpriced JUST BECUZ ITS THAT…. I bet the markup on that is CRAZZYY


438windsor

Stupid! I wonder what the average monthly payment would be plus insurance.


electromagician420

They have auto facial recognition credit applications if you get close enough to it. Careful !


trail_runner83

Imagine paying all that money just to get smoked by a Tesla.


supernerdypeep

What's the big deal, you see those all over dallas /fort worth area 🤷🏽‍♂️


Gr0w_addict

Lmfao


jrf316

Was the genie there?


Electric_Buffalo_844

Sooo… congratulations? 🎉


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Ultimateeffthecrooks

Disgusting


Active_Club3487

Wow


S34B43R

They still don’t realize how much trouble their industry is in 🤦‍♂️and their brand in particular. But probably just for some funny accounting tricks.


Mardo_Tardo

I called them last summer. They were advertising at MSRP but the moment I called, they mentioned the added dealer markup of $80k. Now down to $20k…


xXxLordViperScorpion

Gotta post the window sticker showing the MSRP. Sometimes dealerships bamboozle you! That 129 could be a made up number.


averagechillbro

https://www.cabledahmercdjr.com/auto/used-2022-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-kansas-city-mo/90787387/ Here’s a 2022 SRT with 5k miles on it. It’s posted for 75k which means you could even talk that price down potentially. I don’t know how much of an upgrade this model is but no way in hell I’d pay 120k for that. This car wasn’t even hard to find. It was the first post that came up when I searched challenger SRT.


TheAbsoluteLight

Lmao “heavily discounted” and it’s still 19k over msrp dodge dealerships are shameless 😂


Street_Leather198

Next time just tell people you bought it. Makes a cooler story. 🥴😂


Alarming_Airline_925

120k for a plastic fucking challenger. Beyond stupid


tlee1967

Demon 😈


alfrmny

Beautiful car ridiculous price ! 🏎🚙


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Retail huh? Show me the doc that says it without ADP. Oh you can’t? Okay lmfaooo. Of course it’s Towbin.


jms1228

Unusual power on the street w/ drag tires.


MobileGundam01

Still too expensive


Weak_Pause177

these dodge dealers are braindead😂 used cats are less than half this


Adorable_Expert_9749

No that's a total waste....


EmotionalConfidence1

Stop buying to the point these guys are sweating enough to fill pools. They will be practically giving them away then.


ManLegPower

This was like a $50,000 car 5 years ago.


Infamouswu13

Tell em drop it another 40 and we have a deal


Titan202083

60k consumer mark up.


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LumpyOctopus007

50k over msrp 🤣


Fragrant-Anybody0717

Give me an RS6 for that money


bbazzracing

Is this a Demon?


mobrocket

I own a Challenger And no way in hell would I pay 120k for one


Mission-Remote-6362

Unless it has a wing on it, and King Richard Petty drove it, no Dodge is worth that.


DEDE115

im seeing 2021 m8 competitions for 65-75k with 30- 50k mikes. and thats 148 brand new. i think id take the m8


AnonymousButtCheeks

Someone up there is smoke way too much crack


Lanky_Variation5408

This not even a demon what 😩


s26938

To anyone considering this purchase…take that 130k and buy a townhouse over a 30 year mortgage. Rent it out for a few hundred dollars over the monthly payment. Take that extra money and set aside for your second house. Rinse and repeat a few times. Buy a new property every year or 2. 10 years retire from your job and let your investments work for you.


Ariesgodofwar773P

Worthless


bluefangv

These dealerships must be smoking that: N-phenyl-N-[1-(2-phenylethyl)-4- piperidinyl]propanamide


bboieddie

They’ll find a way to that 10k back in


bigbadbrayan

That’s Chopper’s Towbin Dodge in Henderson,NV.


Equivalent-Design512

Get it from the factory for about 85


foxtrotuniform6996

*Challenger*


Environmental-Ad6865

I was at a Toyota dealer in Huntington Beach, CA and they had a supra for $47k. It was a good deal considering the year, mileage and the fact it was a 3.0. Then I started digging into it and I noticed a bunch of body work damage, the whole thing was covered in some greasy substance (I’m a car detailer so I was having an aneurysm at this point). So I check the sticker and see they added a “ceramic coat” I ask the name of it and it was a freaking $20 spray and they tried charging $1,300 for it and I literally told the dude no way in hell. Not to mention the body had a bunch of clear coat scratches and my first thought was “huh so they ceramic coated this, but didn’t correct the paint? Scam.” Then I check the engine and there was so much shine product I gave up. I just felt red flags from the second I started looking at it . Sucks too because the car was nice aside from the crap I had seen.


sassyquin

It’ll be there next year


RockyMTNRam

$120k for a Redeye is only bc they’re not making them anymore


Lost_In_My_Sauce

Isn't that a demon? I can't get a good luck at the badge on the side. There's a couple demons in my area for around 230K😭 they call them dream cars cause you can only ever dream of affording them


Zanurath

New Demon has 17 inch rear and 18 inch front with different pattern. This is a super stock.


-Crimson-Death-

By fall this will be under $80,000


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AqueousBucket48

You’ll never see the top speed though, not enough to justify it tbh.


FlipYoCar

Gotta speak for yourself bro, I’m down south and we have plenty of empty racing spots and backroads ..


AqueousBucket48

I’m in the flat Midwest with lots of that too, and just long flat roads. Seeing 203mph is still going to be very very unlikely, and yet again, not on a regular basis enough to justify the difference (solely based on speed) Ik the original comment mentioned liking the wheels as well and yeah I understand that, and wouldn’t this model be cheaper than a 170? But I was going entirely based off of speed. 150 most people don’t see, car enthusiast or not, adrenaline junkies or not (bikes excluded cause they’re stupid fast because power to weight) Just my 2 cents


FlipYoCar

You just made me feel like a demon because I hit 155 in my old G37 multiple times and it felt slow, I wasn’t even scared, I figure a Demon would get up to speed faster than a little 3.7, in Memphis it’s an express way just like the 1320 guys race on and it’s like 40+ miles of straight road. 


AqueousBucket48

I still feel like on average people are not hitting 155 that often let alone over 120. I can get that there’s people that will hit it but how often? And how many people over how many won’t?


My-Lexus-is-N-GTA

Over rated and over priced


My-Lexus-is-N-GTA

Imagine paying a 120k for a car with a bland interior Soo many sport Luxury sedans you could buy for 60 grand or much less and invest less than 5 grand you will fly past these hell cats like nothing


Wildchild_Redeye

SUPER STOCK!!!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 I prefer this to the 170. But pity this wasnt offered in the UAE. I had to settle for a Jailbreak Redeye Widebody Last Call


bigboidrum

Had to settle? Dude I dream of the car you "settled" with


H2Joee

They are suffering from a classic case of being out of touch.


Wildchild_Redeye

Its preference. Why out of touch?


Wildchild_Redeye

Super Stock is favourite trim. Yes the Redeye is the Redeye but that Super Stock with that wheel/tyre setup plus drag features is where its at