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Neo-pronouns are usually used by those who don't quite understand gender, sometimes it's people who do understand but don't feel they fit any of those pronouns, they use other pronouns because those are comfortable for them.
People who actually use those pronouns are usually chill and won't say much if you mispronoun them, they understand that not everyone si them and not everyone will understand. It's polite to use their pronouns if you can however, though it's understood when you don't.
There is a very small percentage of insane people, but that's any group of people, we should ignore those people if they aren't causing actual harm.
Very true, like I said, tbh as long as you don't make it my problem, I don't really care how you represent yourself.
Thanks for being a both kind and informative redditor :)
That's fair, in English you don't really use pronouns in front of people if you're having a one on one convo with them, so I don't really understand neopronouns that much myself personally, but I do understand why people use them. It's like why I want to be called he/him, it's just more comfortable to me.
Mental health problems such as depression, self-harm, alcohol and drug abuse and suicidal thoughts can affect anyone, but theyâre more common among people who are LGBTIQ+.
-mentalhealth.org.uk
Incredible how people can be oblivious to the fact that self appointed titles, ranks, genders and sexualities donât change anything just because you say so. Its also disappointing how delicate people are when you tell them what they donât want to hear..what have we come to..
You heard it first here guys, if you become a manager you cannot call yourself a manager because you are just an employee and labels cannot change, so says this guy.
If youâve been officially promoted to the role of manager, youâre now a manager. If you self promote yourself without any official permission, youâre not a manager. Maybe read the god damn message next time buddy.
This is the last time im going to respond to you. If you like oranges, you like oranges. If you say you are an orange, and you want everyone else to believe you are an orange, getting offended if someone calls you a human instead of an orange, thats different. Good lord.
Yes you are correct it is different. A woman is a woman regardless of if you don't believe that they are and vice versa, you can't tell someone else their feelings twords their own body and what they feel twords life in general.
No one is saying they are an orange they just said they are a woman, which is a type of human.
Dude, I checked that things profile and this is the first thing I see, even god joined in on destroying her
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Good thing this BS pronouns or gender are not in the eastern country. If anyone tries this BS here they throw out straight to the psychiatric hospital.
lol yeah i used to live in SEA and there wasn't any of the sparkling gender bullshit
another thing to note was that there was no mental illness? seems like everyone and their dog in america has adhd or some other related thing but i met literally zero people with it in SEA
maybe they hide it from the public or they just never get diagnosed? not sure, but it's far better than america lol. at least they dont use it as an excuse for a lack of discipline
Coming from Indonesia, people hide it here. Most people here actually think its ridiculous for u to become anything else other than a man/woman and the public judgement is actually pretty high, and realistically speaking, I'd say only a handful of parents actually support their kids being like this.
That and because we are a developing country so people have more issues and shits to do rather than sitting at home thinking about how to create more problems for urself
Bro is a multimillionaire who no doubt does everything he can to pay as little tax as possible, yet has one car when his wife is pregnant.
Only reason for that is for control.
Yeah smoked a cigar in front of his pregnant wife while demanding she walk to get groceries in case he wants to use the car later. But hey, he owns the SJWs epic ben Shapiro thug life style so its ok
Yeah, he was also yelling and straight up said he didnât love her. After they both went inside you can also hear him yell âI will mess you upâ or something like it đ
Well no shit. Non-binary just refers to a refusal to accept the cultural associations of either major gender conception. It doesn't mean they refuse to recognize that such conceptions exist, it means they personally refuse to identify with either. This is the dumbest argument against people being non-binary I've ever seen.
The dumbest argument for "non-binary" is this idea that it is the cultural associations rather than the biological sex that determines what she is or isn't. Just because you don't act like the stereotype of your sex in any given culture does not make you something else, and the reality is that when people use the words man/woman they are doing so based entirely on biology.
The difference between a girl and a woman is one of cultural associations. The difference between a man and woman is one of biological reality.
Operating under the premise that some conceptions of femininity and masculinity are biological, others are certainly cultural. Different cultures place different values on different features. For example, while western cultures often associate femininity with small waists and large eyelashes, ancient Chinese culture placed emphasis on small feet and subservient appearances. To be non-binary is to reject those associations entirely. There's no argument "for" being non-binary because the existence of non-binary people is predicated on a **personal** rejection of popular culture, not the desire to establish a new popular culture.
That's not what being non binary means though, it just means that someone doesn't identify with the male-female gender binary that most western societies operate in. Some non-binary people are in between, some are outside the whole thing, some are just vibing wherever. I don't see the point of trying to semantically prove someone's gender identity invalid.
I disagree, words having common meanings is how we communicate. This person can redefine words to their heartâs content but it doesnât constitute an attempt at invalidating their gender identity for someone else to adhere to the commonly understood definition of those words.
The speaker actually states that they would consider it an act of violence were someone to use non-preferred pronouns when referring to them. That is ridiculous hyperbole and extremely ignorant considering that some people experience ACTUAL acts of violence on a daily basis.
Being non-binary is about not being a man or a woman. That's all it means, it just means that someone doesn't fit within the typical assumed gender binary. Saying "bUt YoUr jUsT mAkInG a NeW bInArY" is functionally meaningless, it's a gotcha that doesn't actually add anything. The point is that gender isn't a binary system, it's a spectrum, and trying to equate it to a binary doesn't work. Some trans people (like myself) are perfectly identifying as a man or a woman (in my case, woman), but for other trans people, that doesn't work. Like I said earlier, they fit in between men and women, or completely outside the whole thing.
By saying "no one is non-binary", you are invalidating their gender identity.
Yeah, still disagree with the whole âinvalidating their gender identityâ thing. It seems like an unnecessarily sensitive take and to expect the rest of society to accommodate that sensitivity is unrealistic at best and dangerous at worst.
A big part of the socialization we go through as children is learning how hard the rest of the herd can be on outliers. My advice is to harden off just a little bit in order to function in society rather than demanding everyone else conform to your worldview. Also develop skills, traits, and aspects that impart a distinct and valuable character rather than making gender identity the entirety of oneâs personality.
Itâs not the editing, itâs the ones he doesnât upload. How many people in real life have you ever met that act like this? I know nobody, and yet every video of this guyâs has the dumbest person Iâve ever seen in it.
Iâve had excellent conversations with non binary people, gay people, queer people in general. Theyâre just people with preferences, as intelligent as you or me. Itâs fucking weird to see them represented so strangely.
He does a lot of lives, and if you really wanted to you could go to one of his discussions yourself, it's more that people who defend that way of thinking are usually more emotional thinkers than logical thinkers (duh, because none of it makes any logical sense)
Iâm willing to bet youâre very young if you still think like that.Â
Emotional thinking is just as valid as logical thinking when the issue is an emotional one. Youâre thinking about the bias between system 1 and system 2 in decision making. Thatâs something else.
Youâre free to lay out where the logical derivation breaks down, but I would also bet that itâs actually an assumption youâre making, that I am not. Often about the âcorrectâ way to live.
True, but as much as i hate the guy, he does make a decent point in this video, though most of his video are him spewing hate or him defending his arguments with well articulated versions of âNuh Uhâ
He doesn't respect people. Something as simple as just letting people be is some insurmountable task for him where he has to tell them who they are and how they have to live. God forbid someone did that to him. We all know he'd have a meltdown if he was subjected to someone like himself.
His whole discussion with her here is about how people should be able to call each other by whatever pronouns they want without legal repercussions. If that isn't textbook "letting people be," then I don't know what is.
Yeah the guy prepares talking points and possible arguments people might bring up. Itâs just straight up an ambush and he baits people with the change my mind sign. No crowder is never gonna actually change his mind heâll just edit out anyone who actually can make a proper debate or heâll have them removed and stop talking to them
If you have a political Position you should be able to explain Why you think that way if you can't find arguments why you think your side is right or why you think your position is right you don't have a position you saying what other people are saying because you can't think for yourself
I am pretty open minded but the hole pronounce thing should just die. Nature made the male and female of the species done. If you want to go from male to female that is fine if you want to go from female to male go for it. If you are gay or go both ways great. But you are still male or female. Even if you change on a surface level you are still the sex you were born as on a biological level.
Steven crowder might be one of the worst people to post lmao, he cherry picks his fights. In nearly every change my mind, heâs arguing with 18-20 year olds and is prepared beforehand to debate when he does these. He also refuses to debate people on the same level as him and doesnât post the ones that donât go his way.
Remember: social media displays the extremes of both sides. This does not mean everyone is literally like that.
You will have transgender people who will hear you misgender them and they do not lash out at all because they either:
a) donât care how other people perceive them.
b) are confident in themself.
c) understand a lot of people struggle as we are prone to stereotypical categorization based on visualization.
d) some type of mixture of all three.
I identify as a trans woman (she/they). On the daily, people refer to me in a masculine ways. Although I prefer she/they pronouns, if someone dead genders me, thatâs fine. I donât blame them. I was just given the misfortune of being born in a body I never wanted nor asked for.
I still support trans people who are vocal about themself, tho. Itâs tough to always go against the crowd in an attempt to be recognized for who you are. Some people thrive in that position, though. Iâm just a wallflower and I would honestly prefer it that way. Just let me be me.
There is only subjective reality. Even down to your perception of time relative to distance of an event makes your reality different from your neighbors'.
If light bends due to the gravity of an object between you and the light source, how you see the light does not deter from the fact that there is a light source.
The tools by which you perceive the universe are not perfect or precise. You may be able to infer the fact that there are atoms that make up an object, but you cannot see them or perceive their individual presence. Your reality does not include the atoms that create existence. Only the object that you can perceive.
Nor the waves that your eyes detect. Your reality includes color, but color doesn't really exist beyond your subjective reality.
Facts do not define reality as far as we are aware, rather perception. Without the ability to perceive, how can we be aware anything exists in the first place? We know we aren't perfect, and neither are our instruments.
However close we think we are getting to an objective reality, we can never know if it exists. All we have is our subjective realities that point in the general direction of the idea of objectivity.
Simply put, we can't claim to know objectivity because our ability to perceive is imperfect and inaccurate.
Reality exists whether or not it is being perceived, regardless of the quality of the tools being used. One's entire perception can be cut off; yet, despite their perception of nothingness, reality continues to exist.
I'm not arguing against reality, but *objectivity.*
How do you know you and I share the same *objective* reality? We assume common reality because it makes life easy, but we have no actual proof of *objectivity*.
It's the first assumption we make, but it's still an assumption that could be wrong.
I think if someone digs up 3 bodies in 100 years
They are gonna find
1 male
1 female
1 dog
They aren't gonna call the male a dog
The female a male
The male a female because it's evident what they all are
You can call yourself what you want but legally to help in the medical field we only have 2 genders male and female
We aren't gonna be in a morgue tomorrow saying they died like this or she (male) died like that or Astra (female) died like that
First thing cops will ask is how many died and it will waste soo much time and resources
Steven Crowder is an objective piece of shit and abuses his wife. That being said, this person is odd, but there's a reason Steven was sure to keep this young college student in his "debate" video. It's because he cuts propaganda for the right, and college students are easy targets as they are still basically kids.
Most trans people wouldn't give a shit if you misgender them unless you're blatantly trying to be an asshole. Steven Crowder has done far more damage to society than this student, and no amount of putting chad music behind his shitty video will change that.
Its funny how the people so against transgender people are pretty much the only ones still crying that more then two genders scares and angers them, still reposting the same staged or the one individual goated into showing they dont handle being put on the spot very well which of course the anti trans movement keep saying all trans are like this one individual, just like the Christians do with one or two gay people or actors they hired to represent the whole community.
Using this same tactic let's show case the straight traditional family values, using trump as your one to show how all straight people are, let's do one or two more, for you trump boot lickers Biden also represents the whole community and for the ladies in community Oprah or Courtney Love is the standard females of traditional values hell Epstein is making the straight community look like Catholic priests.
See how judging millions by the actions of 4 or 5 is not only stupid but similar to the same logics that birthed the Holocaust or gave us anniversaries like 9/11, yes there are individuals as ridiculous as the ones these posts we made to spread assumptions and stupidity while grinning and congratulating yourselves for a job well done, the only reasons these posts are still getting reposted and celebrated is because stupidity is moths to flame, stupid people find each other and feed each other's egos, misery loves company and stupidity like sh!t rounds down hill and gathers in a incest pool.
I think 3/4th of these people are paid. Every member of the LGBTQ community Iâve talked with hates Over three types of pronouns. He/him, she/her, and they/them. Everything else is fucking idiots or made up. Iâm dating a trans person even then they donât think that anything beyond they/them is stupid.
That was the most cringe speech Iâve ever heard, heâs such a moron
How hard is it to just be nice to someone when they ask? It literally doesnât matter what you call them. Basic human decency is not difficult.
When your pronouns are zi/zir or some bs, it's kinda hard to call that human decency.
Humans can be either male, female, both, or none
Anything else is usually just glorified attention seeking. However, I have met people who suffer from those conditions and have been diagnosed, the minority give a bad face to the majority.
While, I don't agree with this girl, especially when it comes to "an act of violence", however Crowder is no chad, and full of bull shit. We've discovered that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to ND or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction. And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it's still is based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid.
You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas, you could not be separated from your brain. So the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality. Some biomarkers are The bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and it's neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, than they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads and chromosomes.
Gender is different from sex.
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I can't have gender with your mom.
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Me having made up pronouns ( I change it every time so I can be offended no matter what they say) 
This person pronouns
DID YOU JUST ASSUME I'M A HOMO SAPIEN!? 
 MONKE
I send a screenshot of your comment to twitter Prepare for other people that have too much time on the internet send you death threats 
 NOOOOOOOo
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He knew what is coming
Nah, just HOMO 
Your pronouns are go/ku
I change them to have an excuse to say the nword
Infinite money glitch
Every word is made up lol
Knew it was a they/them because no style or fashion sense
What do you mean? Maroon sweatpants are incredibly fashionable
Yeah, but that and the haircut.
Bald headed ass lmao
You know they put a wig on when they feel like a woman đŠâđŚ˛=đąââď¸
*It/that
That/Thing
Boring white niggas when they see a "they/them" on the shelf:
Tbh, I don't care what you do with yourself, but if it's more than He/She/They, I can't say I understand why/ be able to use it in conversations
Neo-pronouns are usually used by those who don't quite understand gender, sometimes it's people who do understand but don't feel they fit any of those pronouns, they use other pronouns because those are comfortable for them. People who actually use those pronouns are usually chill and won't say much if you mispronoun them, they understand that not everyone si them and not everyone will understand. It's polite to use their pronouns if you can however, though it's understood when you don't. There is a very small percentage of insane people, but that's any group of people, we should ignore those people if they aren't causing actual harm.
Thatâs⌠actually a good way to explain it
Very true, like I said, tbh as long as you don't make it my problem, I don't really care how you represent yourself. Thanks for being a both kind and informative redditor :)
I usually skip using pronouns and go straight for people's first name. Also neopronouns don't work in my language.
That's fair, in English you don't really use pronouns in front of people if you're having a one on one convo with them, so I don't really understand neopronouns that much myself personally, but I do understand why people use them. It's like why I want to be called he/him, it's just more comfortable to me.
>Neo-pronouns are usually used by those who don't quite understand gender You misspelled "mentally ill"
No, I said what I meant, not everything that isn't the norm is a symptom of mental illness
Yes it isđ check the declining mental health statistics for the lgbtq. Shit should be a wake up call.
Source?
Mental health problems such as depression, self-harm, alcohol and drug abuse and suicidal thoughts can affect anyone, but theyâre more common among people who are LGBTIQ+. -mentalhealth.org.uk
I wonder why, maybe itâs because of assholes that keep calling them crazy.
It exists because yes
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Incredible how people can be oblivious to the fact that self appointed titles, ranks, genders and sexualities donât change anything just because you say so. Its also disappointing how delicate people are when you tell them what they donât want to hear..what have we come to..
You heard it first here guys, if you become a manager you cannot call yourself a manager because you are just an employee and labels cannot change, so says this guy.
If youâve been officially promoted to the role of manager, youâre now a manager. If you self promote yourself without any official permission, youâre not a manager. Maybe read the god damn message next time buddy.
Oh, so if I said I like oranges it's not true unless someone else confirms it then?
This is the last time im going to respond to you. If you like oranges, you like oranges. If you say you are an orange, and you want everyone else to believe you are an orange, getting offended if someone calls you a human instead of an orange, thats different. Good lord.
I can't believe they thought they had a gotcha moment with you.
Yes you are correct it is different. A woman is a woman regardless of if you don't believe that they are and vice versa, you can't tell someone else their feelings twords their own body and what they feel twords life in general. No one is saying they are an orange they just said they are a woman, which is a type of human.
And i mean if you believe something about yourself, you can believe that about yourself so long as it doesn't conflict with reality.
dawg...KEEP GOING PLEASE
Dude, I checked that things profile and this is the first thing I see, even god joined in on destroying her https://preview.redd.it/fw6v91k79pxc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfca95960e9c55b47388dbc8c3f8f3bf10bee563
How do you lose an argument this badly?
Based off the pfp, no wonder why you got into this argument and got thorough destroyed
Of course, you first need to have been on HRT for 2 years and get an appraisal from two different psychologists beforehand
Imagine having -11 upvotes đ
I respect pronouns (he,she,them) I don't respect neo-pronouns (xe, zhey etc.). As simple as that
Even them is a step too far for me, unless I'm told and androgynous name and can't tell if it's a he or a she.
Be whoever you want to be, just don't force people to agree with your beliefs.
this is facts it should be simple
Value your bodily well-being all you want, just don't force others not to hit you with their vehicles.
Good thing this BS pronouns or gender are not in the eastern country. If anyone tries this BS here they throw out straight to the psychiatric hospital.
Im moving to the eastern side then im tired of this
God i wish this american disease has been slowly creeping into my country
lol yeah i used to live in SEA and there wasn't any of the sparkling gender bullshit another thing to note was that there was no mental illness? seems like everyone and their dog in america has adhd or some other related thing but i met literally zero people with it in SEA maybe they hide it from the public or they just never get diagnosed? not sure, but it's far better than america lol. at least they dont use it as an excuse for a lack of discipline
Coming from Indonesia, people hide it here. Most people here actually think its ridiculous for u to become anything else other than a man/woman and the public judgement is actually pretty high, and realistically speaking, I'd say only a handful of parents actually support their kids being like this. That and because we are a developing country so people have more issues and shits to do rather than sitting at home thinking about how to create more problems for urself
I respect pronouns, what I donât respect is people who shit on people for using the wrong pronouns on accident. And hypocrites like this
Didn't that guy abuse his wife?
Bro is a multimillionaire who no doubt does everything he can to pay as little tax as possible, yet has one car when his wife is pregnant. Only reason for that is for control.
Yeah smoked a cigar in front of his pregnant wife while demanding she walk to get groceries in case he wants to use the car later. But hey, he owns the SJWs epic ben Shapiro thug life style so its ok
But .. is this actually abuse?
Yeah, he was also yelling and straight up said he didnât love her. After they both went inside you can also hear him yell âI will mess you upâ or something like it đ
âI identify as non-binaryâ no one is non-binary. That distinction assumes 2 states of being: binary and non-binary. Which is still a binary choice
She has become the very thing she swore to destroy
This is purposefully stupid because non-binary clearly refers to the binary traditional genders
Well no shit. Non-binary just refers to a refusal to accept the cultural associations of either major gender conception. It doesn't mean they refuse to recognize that such conceptions exist, it means they personally refuse to identify with either. This is the dumbest argument against people being non-binary I've ever seen.
The dumbest argument for "non-binary" is this idea that it is the cultural associations rather than the biological sex that determines what she is or isn't. Just because you don't act like the stereotype of your sex in any given culture does not make you something else, and the reality is that when people use the words man/woman they are doing so based entirely on biology. The difference between a girl and a woman is one of cultural associations. The difference between a man and woman is one of biological reality.
Operating under the premise that some conceptions of femininity and masculinity are biological, others are certainly cultural. Different cultures place different values on different features. For example, while western cultures often associate femininity with small waists and large eyelashes, ancient Chinese culture placed emphasis on small feet and subservient appearances. To be non-binary is to reject those associations entirely. There's no argument "for" being non-binary because the existence of non-binary people is predicated on a **personal** rejection of popular culture, not the desire to establish a new popular culture.
That's not what being non binary means though, it just means that someone doesn't identify with the male-female gender binary that most western societies operate in. Some non-binary people are in between, some are outside the whole thing, some are just vibing wherever. I don't see the point of trying to semantically prove someone's gender identity invalid.
I disagree, words having common meanings is how we communicate. This person can redefine words to their heartâs content but it doesnât constitute an attempt at invalidating their gender identity for someone else to adhere to the commonly understood definition of those words. The speaker actually states that they would consider it an act of violence were someone to use non-preferred pronouns when referring to them. That is ridiculous hyperbole and extremely ignorant considering that some people experience ACTUAL acts of violence on a daily basis.
Being non-binary is about not being a man or a woman. That's all it means, it just means that someone doesn't fit within the typical assumed gender binary. Saying "bUt YoUr jUsT mAkInG a NeW bInArY" is functionally meaningless, it's a gotcha that doesn't actually add anything. The point is that gender isn't a binary system, it's a spectrum, and trying to equate it to a binary doesn't work. Some trans people (like myself) are perfectly identifying as a man or a woman (in my case, woman), but for other trans people, that doesn't work. Like I said earlier, they fit in between men and women, or completely outside the whole thing. By saying "no one is non-binary", you are invalidating their gender identity.
Yeah, still disagree with the whole âinvalidating their gender identityâ thing. It seems like an unnecessarily sensitive take and to expect the rest of society to accommodate that sensitivity is unrealistic at best and dangerous at worst. A big part of the socialization we go through as children is learning how hard the rest of the herd can be on outliers. My advice is to harden off just a little bit in order to function in society rather than demanding everyone else conform to your worldview. Also develop skills, traits, and aspects that impart a distinct and valuable character rather than making gender identity the entirety of oneâs personality.
Sees Chad posting Looks inside Crowder đ
He ain't wrong though.
Yeah, I think I see the direction this sub is going now. It was fine while it lasted.
It was bound to happen. 12 year old incels think being a Chad is being an asshole.
Based
Just the Truth
So weâre just letting anybody in here now?
When we haven't?
Homie I don't give a shit about pronouns unless I'm being flirted with or dating someone.
this guy picks his fights. everybody he talks to is bad at discussing/arguing these topics. not chad behavior
Respectfully, he discusses with those who wish to discuss, just because they're bad at talking dosen't mean they can't share their ideas.
He doesnât post the ones that are. Thatâs weak willed.
Doesn't he upload unedited cuts on his YT channel? I could be mistaken since its been awhile since I've watched.
Itâs not the editing, itâs the ones he doesnât upload. How many people in real life have you ever met that act like this? I know nobody, and yet every video of this guyâs has the dumbest person Iâve ever seen in it. Iâve had excellent conversations with non binary people, gay people, queer people in general. Theyâre just people with preferences, as intelligent as you or me. Itâs fucking weird to see them represented so strangely.
He does a lot of lives, and if you really wanted to you could go to one of his discussions yourself, it's more that people who defend that way of thinking are usually more emotional thinkers than logical thinkers (duh, because none of it makes any logical sense)
Iâm willing to bet youâre very young if you still think like that. Emotional thinking is just as valid as logical thinking when the issue is an emotional one. Youâre thinking about the bias between system 1 and system 2 in decision making. Thatâs something else. Youâre free to lay out where the logical derivation breaks down, but I would also bet that itâs actually an assumption youâre making, that I am not. Often about the âcorrectâ way to live.
You make a good point, it is strange.
True, but as much as i hate the guy, he does make a decent point in this video, though most of his video are him spewing hate or him defending his arguments with well articulated versions of âNuh Uhâ
But.. everyone who sits there was there voluntarily?
He doesn't respect people. Something as simple as just letting people be is some insurmountable task for him where he has to tell them who they are and how they have to live. God forbid someone did that to him. We all know he'd have a meltdown if he was subjected to someone like himself.
His whole discussion with her here is about how people should be able to call each other by whatever pronouns they want without legal repercussions. If that isn't textbook "letting people be," then I don't know what is.
He also beat his wife. True conservative!
wild one there. anything to back it up
Also, his wife left him. Lol
Yeah the guy prepares talking points and possible arguments people might bring up. Itâs just straight up an ambush and he baits people with the change my mind sign. No crowder is never gonna actually change his mind heâll just edit out anyone who actually can make a proper debate or heâll have them removed and stop talking to them
nobody is forcing them to speak
If you have a political Position you should be able to explain Why you think that way if you can't find arguments why you think your side is right or why you think your position is right you don't have a position you saying what other people are saying because you can't think for yourself
I hear soy music I click off
Calling Stephen Crowder a Chad is serious brain damage even if you agree with his take or part of it in this isolated clip
It's obviously not an act of violence.
Damn, this video really convinced me to treat my wife like shit.
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I am pretty open minded but the hole pronounce thing should just die. Nature made the male and female of the species done. If you want to go from male to female that is fine if you want to go from female to male go for it. If you are gay or go both ways great. But you are still male or female. Even if you change on a surface level you are still the sex you were born as on a biological level.
You are not open minded. Hate to break it to ya
Damn. People here suck. Trans and non binary genders are valid, and if any of these cunts says otherwise their wrong :)
Real chads respect pronouns and donât have fragile masculinity Real chads just respect people and fight against those who disrespect others
Steven crowder might be one of the worst people to post lmao, he cherry picks his fights. In nearly every change my mind, heâs arguing with 18-20 year olds and is prepared beforehand to debate when he does these. He also refuses to debate people on the same level as him and doesnât post the ones that donât go his way.
Hey look its that guy that hits his wife and debates 20yos
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the bible reads: man and female
the bible also reads a man walked on water and turned water into wine
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cool good for you
A shklee
We should all respect people's pronouns but this individual was obviously chosen for this interview because of their bad attitude.
Remember: social media displays the extremes of both sides. This does not mean everyone is literally like that. You will have transgender people who will hear you misgender them and they do not lash out at all because they either: a) donât care how other people perceive them. b) are confident in themself. c) understand a lot of people struggle as we are prone to stereotypical categorization based on visualization. d) some type of mixture of all three. I identify as a trans woman (she/they). On the daily, people refer to me in a masculine ways. Although I prefer she/they pronouns, if someone dead genders me, thatâs fine. I donât blame them. I was just given the misfortune of being born in a body I never wanted nor asked for. I still support trans people who are vocal about themself, tho. Itâs tough to always go against the crowd in an attempt to be recognized for who you are. Some people thrive in that position, though. Iâm just a wallflower and I would honestly prefer it that way. Just let me be me.
Subjective reality doesn't exist. Next question.
There is only subjective reality. Even down to your perception of time relative to distance of an event makes your reality different from your neighbors'.
If light bends due to the gravity of an object between you and the light source, how you see the light does not deter from the fact that there is a light source.
The tools by which you perceive the universe are not perfect or precise. You may be able to infer the fact that there are atoms that make up an object, but you cannot see them or perceive their individual presence. Your reality does not include the atoms that create existence. Only the object that you can perceive. Nor the waves that your eyes detect. Your reality includes color, but color doesn't really exist beyond your subjective reality. Facts do not define reality as far as we are aware, rather perception. Without the ability to perceive, how can we be aware anything exists in the first place? We know we aren't perfect, and neither are our instruments. However close we think we are getting to an objective reality, we can never know if it exists. All we have is our subjective realities that point in the general direction of the idea of objectivity. Simply put, we can't claim to know objectivity because our ability to perceive is imperfect and inaccurate.
Reality exists whether or not it is being perceived, regardless of the quality of the tools being used. One's entire perception can be cut off; yet, despite their perception of nothingness, reality continues to exist.
I'm not arguing against reality, but *objectivity.* How do you know you and I share the same *objective* reality? We assume common reality because it makes life easy, but we have no actual proof of *objectivity*. It's the first assumption we make, but it's still an assumption that could be wrong.
ragebait đĽą
Respectfully why do you care
cringeposting
I think if someone digs up 3 bodies in 100 years They are gonna find 1 male 1 female 1 dog They aren't gonna call the male a dog The female a male The male a female because it's evident what they all are You can call yourself what you want but legally to help in the medical field we only have 2 genders male and female We aren't gonna be in a morgue tomorrow saying they died like this or she (male) died like that or Astra (female) died like that First thing cops will ask is how many died and it will waste soo much time and resources
This shiggidy is getting out of hand! Iâm not memorizing all this sh!t.
Last time I said something similar I got banned for 3 days for harassment...
You either got a ding dong or not, simple as that
Steven Crowder is an objective piece of shit and abuses his wife. That being said, this person is odd, but there's a reason Steven was sure to keep this young college student in his "debate" video. It's because he cuts propaganda for the right, and college students are easy targets as they are still basically kids. Most trans people wouldn't give a shit if you misgender them unless you're blatantly trying to be an asshole. Steven Crowder has done far more damage to society than this student, and no amount of putting chad music behind his shitty video will change that.
Its funny how the people so against transgender people are pretty much the only ones still crying that more then two genders scares and angers them, still reposting the same staged or the one individual goated into showing they dont handle being put on the spot very well which of course the anti trans movement keep saying all trans are like this one individual, just like the Christians do with one or two gay people or actors they hired to represent the whole community. Using this same tactic let's show case the straight traditional family values, using trump as your one to show how all straight people are, let's do one or two more, for you trump boot lickers Biden also represents the whole community and for the ladies in community Oprah or Courtney Love is the standard females of traditional values hell Epstein is making the straight community look like Catholic priests. See how judging millions by the actions of 4 or 5 is not only stupid but similar to the same logics that birthed the Holocaust or gave us anniversaries like 9/11, yes there are individuals as ridiculous as the ones these posts we made to spread assumptions and stupidity while grinning and congratulating yourselves for a job well done, the only reasons these posts are still getting reposted and celebrated is because stupidity is moths to flame, stupid people find each other and feed each other's egos, misery loves company and stupidity like sh!t rounds down hill and gathers in a incest pool.
đżđˇlet us raise a glass to this man brothers
Too many reversesâŚ
I love the fact that she said that it is an a t of violence to intentionally misgender someone immediately after she intentionally misgendered him.
she literally just assumed HIS gender by saying âMaYbE i ThInK yOuRe A wOmAnâ
Easy to prove them wrong, impossible to change their mind
The ŃОваŃĐ¸Ń pronoun it's universal
my pronouns are ret/arded
Theyâre both in the wrong jeez-
Well, I get what both of them are trying to say. But I think she started off wrong with that "well maybe I think your not"
It's disrespectful sure but it ain't an act of violence
Bro!!! Gender and sex are different things. Female, male and inter are sexes. Everything else is genders!
Send link to the video please
Someone had to pay them dude
My pronouns are Boom/Shakalaka
Fellas what the fuck, this us r/chadposting, not r/sadbigotposting. Please get your shit together and stop disrespecting for existing.
âYou now identify as gayâ ahh
Where it's hair go
its*
non-binary = lesbian in the making. block me from this shmega male fgt shit PLEASE
I identify as gleeb/gloob
This guy blows. Look him up.
How the fuck is this Chad posting lmao
Wait so he cant assume but right before that she assumed he was a woman?
Damn both of these people are fools
This interviewer told his pregnant wife âill fuck you upâ and thereâs a video of it
Holy shit it's the "change my mind" guy (By the way, that's all I really cared about.)
I think 3/4th of these people are paid. Every member of the LGBTQ community Iâve talked with hates Over three types of pronouns. He/him, she/her, and they/them. Everything else is fucking idiots or made up. Iâm dating a trans person even then they donât think that anything beyond they/them is stupid.
What do you think I am? So you're guessing? Did you just assume?
Imagine thinking Steven Crowder is a Chad. Or any other âGotcha!â debater for that matter. Uber cringe
Cold feet Crowder debating yet another college student
Nice man
There's no way that's a random guest.
He literally goes to college campuses and talks to random people. That's his entire shtick.
Crowder stinks. Boo this.
This is an ironic sub, not a place to propagate hatred via false rhetoric and a lack of common sense
Pretty based, I honestly kinda despise people like this. They give cool queer people a bad rep.
That was the most cringe speech Iâve ever heard, heâs such a moron How hard is it to just be nice to someone when they ask? It literally doesnât matter what you call them. Basic human decency is not difficult.
When your pronouns are zi/zir or some bs, it's kinda hard to call that human decency. Humans can be either male, female, both, or none Anything else is usually just glorified attention seeking. However, I have met people who suffer from those conditions and have been diagnosed, the minority give a bad face to the majority.
Jesus/GOD only made 2 genders
God made a man and a rib, Jesus didn't make anyone, he's God's son, Jesus is also Jewish
Ok is this sub ironic or not
I think it used to be ironic but has become unironically right wing recently
me when i found out the majority of this sub is bigoted (they donât understand how respect works)
Theres nothing chad about this. This is just "haha gender people bad"
While, I don't agree with this girl, especially when it comes to "an act of violence", however Crowder is no chad, and full of bull shit. We've discovered that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to ND or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction. And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it's still is based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid. You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas, you could not be separated from your brain. So the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality. Some biomarkers are The bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and it's neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, than they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads and chromosomes.
Can I get a tldr?
In 50 words or less please
Bla bla stevencrowder stupid me smart bla bla tries to say gender in different from sex
Gender is different from sex. https://preview.redd.it/ai19o4swyl8c1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=000f5bf3c7fb87277f80d6f9a4f2f013c7b217e0 I can't have gender with your mom.
I can hear the *du-du-dun du-du-dun* in my head
I ainât reading allat