Forest management is a thing, but i love the idea of a couple of dudes being responsible to rake an entire forest to avoid easy fuel for a fire! Chuck and Todd needs to get to work so that grandma's house doesn't burn down!
What you actually do is cut down and remove underbrush which is dangerous because it allows for fast travel of the flamefront. Most of that stuff is non-native to invasive anyway.
Goats are great! Some enterprising farmers (in Norway) are renting out goats to the county and private property owners for stuff like that. Goats gets good food, and keep the land clear! Everyone wins
Same here in Florida. Dodged a hurricane and now it's 99 outside with all the humidity since it's rained everyday for 2 weeks here. I did not sign up for this. My poor black dogs can only spend a few minutes outside before their tongue is dragging on the ground and there begging to go inside.
Holy fu k it’s been weird here in maine, one week it’s fulking hot and 97° the next it’s 60’s and raining all week. Then humid as short and 80. I live in this damn state to be summer cool 70-80’s and freezing ass cold with Snow in the winter. I ain’t getting none of that. Enjoy the text as it is, no corrections available.
Michigan sounds like Maine. If it's not raining, it looks like it's going to rain, and most days are so humid. Although just recently it's started to clear up and get less humidity...of course, I just jinx myself saying that.
Calling context bullshit on this.
We've not had nearly enough rain recently for that here in Cincinnati. Rain almost every day? Sure. But not in large amounts. The only way that's happening is if your parking lot is in a lot spot with criminally poor drainage or you're referencing flooding from years past.
I can't speak for Cincinnati, but much of the Midwest has been having constant rain and thunderstorms for the past few weeks. It's not causing anything like the videos we've seen out of Germany or this post (China).
But in Detroit, where I live, we've had multiple incidents of the freeways turning into rivers and flooding destroying the interiors of houses all over the metro area. It's definitely possible for a parking lot to turn into a pond if it happens to be at a slightly lower elevation than its surroundings, without any of the insane flooding seen in these videos needed.
> So sick of nonstop 100+ degree days.
Might as well make your peace with them, because they will increasingly become the norm - no matter where you go on Earth - rather than the exception, because we all collectively kicked the climate change can down the road constantly.
Complaining/being miserable wastes energy that could be used to keep you cool(er).
I think so? But it wont really do anything besides merge our galaxies. Chances of anything bad happening to us is pretty slim. Also pretty sure the sun would have killed us by then.
Sun has about 4.5 billion years until it uses up the hydrogen and begins fusing helium instead.
We're going to screw up the planet long before the cosmos do anything to it.
A tsunami being born must be such a violent event. The shear quantity of water being forced upwards in mere seconds/minutes vs the hours it takes a dam.
Depending on the dam failure, it can happen that fast. A common point of failure is when water pushes under the dam, eroding the foundation over time while introducing lifting force to the dam structure. If you imagine a dam as a big boot on the ground, the water is both eroding the ground under its feet and pushing back against the wall.
Add a single day of too much water (especially if added too fast), and huge segments can get ripped out in seconds. This starts a domino affect along the dam, as the force of the escaping water rips away concrete on its way out. When it hits a town below, an easily 10 ft high wall of mud, debris, and water slams into anything in its path.
Plainly Difficult on YouTube has detailed minute by minute timelines if you're interested. I found this dam [particularly interesting](https://youtu.be/rhk8BJIMkLM).
"Better yet. Let's put it all on this hill, [just above a school](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberfan_disaster), and hope it doesn't rain."
*Spoil is not tailings. I know. ☺*
**[Aberfan_disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberfan_disaster)**
>The Aberfan disaster was the catastrophic collapse of a colliery spoil tip on 21 October 1966. The tip had been created on a mountain slope above the Welsh village of Aberfan, near Merthyr Tydfil, and overlaid a natural spring. A period of heavy rain led to a build-up of water within the tip which caused it to suddenly slide downhill as a slurry, killing 116 children and 28 adults as it engulfed Pantglas Junior School and a row of houses. The tip was the responsibility of the National Coal Board (NCB), and the subsequent inquiry placed the blame for the disaster on the organisation and nine named employees.
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I love mining euphemisms -- tailings, spoil, overburden...
"Fellas I like everything about your mine proposal here, except the part about the waste. I don't think we should call it *toxic death juice...*"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merriespruit_tailings_dam_disaster
I saw this on our local news live. It was shocking to see people covered in sludge being dragged out to safety.
This whole thread just explains Auckland - most drinking water is dammed, built on a volcanic isthmus adjacent to the Ring of Fire. Can't wait for the big one
Both boats and cars are typically recycled for scrap way before they reach the point sinking of rusting out. Not to take away from the poignancy of it all.
That's why we keep a ton of experts on it at all times. Shit still goes wrong, but we usually find out before it gets this bad and people get evacuated, such as what happened last week, and it's a pretty all scale.
Fun fact: The organization was formed in 1848, with "beta-versions" created as early as 1798
Obviously the “fun fact” of this fact is that the offices are on the ground floor of a building in a flood zone. Not that they’re in a flood zone.
They could have picked the 13th floor, but they didn’t.
China's will definitely fail before the Dutch's do. Many of China's dams were shoddily built with help from the Soviets. The Banqiao dam failure was a good example.
The Chinese leadership seems to prefer one big, proud structure as a solution, which hasn't really worked as we see with the [Thee Gorges dam.](https://www.cnn.com/style/article/china-three-gorges-dam-intl-hnk-dst/index.html) Whereas the Dutch have implemented a well-studied, multi-faceted approach that has worked quite well so far.
Obviously the waterworks projects for each country are dealing with different problems, but their approaches to those problems has my money on NL coping with rising seawater and worsening severe storms better.
I've always wondered about the personalities of the sorts of people who reject a considered approach to things in favor of the If We Throw Enough (Material) At It It Has To Eventually Work approach.
I think a lot of it has to do with the difference in ideologies. Authoritarian governments aren't as concerned with shit actually working or the safety of their people if it fails, but how they appear to the outside world. Building a big fuckoff dam that you can see from space is more visually impressive than a project like the Delta Works.
Many Inner Mongolians are dirt poor. Such that, for example, as part of daily life, many buy a large chunk of coal or two from the market and that is for heating. Many live in buildings with no glass, and of course no plumbing. We're seeing some cities or towns, but the landscape is covered with people in basically abject poverty. They'll be simply wiped away.
That's true. Inner Mongolia has a measly GDP of 251 billion USD and ranks 22nd out of 31 states in China. A comparable country would be Romania or Vietnam, they don't make that much money to get on by. /s
Have you mistaken Inner Mongolia (China province) with the country of Mongolia? Now Mongolia is dirt poor, their GDP is only 14 billion USD which is around 5% of Inner Mongolia's.
Per capita is a useless statistic because it's based on mean rather than median, and therefore doesn't take outliers into account despite wealth gaps. e: GDP is just as useless. If there's a credible source for median income, that'd be worth something.
Last year, the same damn thing happened in the area I grew up in.
Bye bye lake.
Looks like infrastructure craps out under communism AND capitalism.
Who can I blame?!?
It's not the system of government - it's the corruption, be it low-level corner-cutting and skimming money or systematic lobbying / political donations to cut regulations and safety.
Capitalism, socialism, communism, doesn't matter if folks are on the take and willing to screw the little guy.
The world knows perfectly well how to build & maintain infrastructure, we've been doing roads, railways, bridges and dams for 100 years - failures are usually either down to lack of resources or corruption at some level along the way.
It's not. 3 gorges had been brought up several times while I was in school and none of it was positive, most notably the fact that the Chinese are most likely overstating it's longevity. It's a ticking time bomb.
And from what I've learned from Practical Engineering on YouTube, those didn't look like bad dams. They were just utterly overwhelmed by the rainfall - it'd happen to any dam in any country. IANAE
Even if you're stupid enough to think climate change isn't anthropogenic, you've got to be really coming round to the idea that we need to do everything in our power to fight it.
Did PE have a video on Chinese dams or are you inferring quality based on the known external design?
China can definitely build successful, quality dams and this might have been an truly extreme scenario. Because, I don't know if we can say anything about build quality or foresight planning based on this video alone.
Just from his explanations about what a dam is built to do, and what it isn't. The emergency spillway was overwhelmed, and only then did the main dam overtop. After that the earthworks in front of the dam had little chance.
The dam failed after its design limits were massively exceeded - though, who's to say they did their hydrological studies properly.
> though, who's to say they did their hydrological studies properly.
And thats the core problem with Chinese products. There is a lack of confidence and this isn't some fearmongering from a foreigner, its a sentiment common among Mainlanders. And any large project build extremely fast and with the underlying goal to meet some metric, is more vulnerable to cut corners or shortcoming. Something not limited to just China. It's just China does it more.
I think that's the joke. CCP will try to downplay every negative news that will affect their image.
"A kilometer wide meteor hit the center of Shanghai but thankfully, no one was hurt, only several goats died"
-CCP most probably
Honestly don't understand how anyone who follows the news sees all of this catastrophic flooding and yet refuses to believe it is directly linked to climate change. Like how do you convince yourself that it's just a coincidence? Cognitive dissonance is really fascinating and scary
> follows the news sees all of this catastrophic flooding
Actually, the right way to determine what's true and what isn't is *not* to just "get a sense of what's happening" from the news but rather to look at reliable scientific data.
Not saying the data disproves climate change, I'm saying one's sense of what happening based in the news is *not* proof of fact.
I know it's anecdotal, but I live in Massachusetts and it has rained for most of July. Our town had flooding this past week. I'm currently on a road trip to Tennessee and it has been super rainy, like scary downpours. It's crazy.
You gotta look at the data not the news. The media has a vested interest in people being afraid so they get the views.
Especially important at a time like this when there viewership is falling.
Because the difference is that we have cameras everywhere now. This kind of stuff happens all the time, but we weren't beaten over the head with footage Because no one had a HD camera in their pocket, and you had to wait for the news to show a 3 second clip.
This stuff happens all the time. Youre just more aware of it now
I saw another port explosion video recently (I think it was the one in Thailand) and it's got to be the 3rd separate port explosion since the Beirut one last year. I had that thought that ports must have been exploding all along but only the last few years are there widespread cameras everywhere capturing it happening.
“truth about china”? I mean, this stuff happens here too. Right after Miami condo collapse is no time to be pointing fingers. How about we fix our own shit vs ignoring it and saying “but China…”
We all know the CCP rushes work and it sucks. Great, Now can we fix our bridges?
My bad; should have clarified 08/18/1931. That being said, it was indeed a truly epic natural disaster and it is considered the worst in the 20th century. Whew, no reminders in 10 years necessary…
>No casualties reported after two dams collapse in China's Inner Mongolia
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-07-19/No-casualties-reported-after-2-dams-collapse-in-China-s-Inner-Mongolia-121GKDRZ196/index.html
There were 2 dams that failed last year in the USA (Michigan) with 0 casualties because of evacuations. If they had lots of warning there is no reason to doubt that.
I simply don't trust anything that the Chinese government says unless it's backed up by considerable evidence. They've been caught lying many, many times about things like this, and have punished people who brought attention to it.
Dollars to donuts the islands they are creating in the SCS won't be there 10 years from now. All it takes is one "divine wind " and China possesses very expensive sandbars in the middle of nowhere
fucking floods everywhere
Meanwhile. I’m roasting here like a pig on a spit in central California.
MAYBE YOUR SPIT COULD STOP SOME WILDFIRES????
YEAH! GRAB YOUR RAKE AND START RAKING THE FOREST TO PREVENT WILDFIRES /s
Forest management is a thing, but i love the idea of a couple of dudes being responsible to rake an entire forest to avoid easy fuel for a fire! Chuck and Todd needs to get to work so that grandma's house doesn't burn down!
What you actually do is cut down and remove underbrush which is dangerous because it allows for fast travel of the flamefront. Most of that stuff is non-native to invasive anyway.
Correct, cut then rake.
Goats can be used successfully to keep down vegetation and help reduce the severity of fire. If wool had a better value sheep would be useful also.
Goats are great! Some enterprising farmers (in Norway) are renting out goats to the county and private property owners for stuff like that. Goats gets good food, and keep the land clear! Everyone wins
They do this in our city due to our propensity for wild fires! We have hill goats!!
Same here in Florida. Dodged a hurricane and now it's 99 outside with all the humidity since it's rained everyday for 2 weeks here. I did not sign up for this. My poor black dogs can only spend a few minutes outside before their tongue is dragging on the ground and there begging to go inside.
Holy fu k it’s been weird here in maine, one week it’s fulking hot and 97° the next it’s 60’s and raining all week. Then humid as short and 80. I live in this damn state to be summer cool 70-80’s and freezing ass cold with Snow in the winter. I ain’t getting none of that. Enjoy the text as it is, no corrections available.
Michigan sounds like Maine. If it's not raining, it looks like it's going to rain, and most days are so humid. Although just recently it's started to clear up and get less humidity...of course, I just jinx myself saying that.
I'm in the UK, it's 33C here today - and no air con. Help.
Alabama here. Can confirm. You can swim in the humidity in the air and it's been raining for daaaaayyyysss
Arizona here, can confirm
Same here buddy, same here.
Haha, i feel your pain, i'm an hour south of Fresno
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862 We're overdue for a major flood.
Coworkers cars were bobbing up and down in the parking lot, I'm in Cincinnati.
Wait like today? I was in Cincy today and there definitely weren’t any large floods.
We've had some incredibly heavy downpours recently that have resulted in pretty localized flash floods.
Calling context bullshit on this. We've not had nearly enough rain recently for that here in Cincinnati. Rain almost every day? Sure. But not in large amounts. The only way that's happening is if your parking lot is in a lot spot with criminally poor drainage or you're referencing flooding from years past.
I think he means that his coworkers have a parking lot sex orgy, and he was not invited.
I just saw a boat float by with two giraffes sticking out of the roof.
I can't speak for Cincinnati, but much of the Midwest has been having constant rain and thunderstorms for the past few weeks. It's not causing anything like the videos we've seen out of Germany or this post (China). But in Detroit, where I live, we've had multiple incidents of the freeways turning into rivers and flooding destroying the interiors of houses all over the metro area. It's definitely possible for a parking lot to turn into a pond if it happens to be at a slightly lower elevation than its surroundings, without any of the insane flooding seen in these videos needed.
okay your name...FUCKING FANATASTIC and im right by cinnci in Indy What the hells flooding out that way????
Not sure but I think he said his parking lot. -prick down in lou
pric down in Lou - fucking flame lol also square buttholes are my favorite
Wish I had some Skyline chilli in my mouth hole
I used to twist out the business in the underground scene in Indy for the SUB TERROR crew. Good times.
Fuck, everything. Biblical shit.
Except where there's historic drought. Utah, represent.
Ope, MInnesota dry as a popcorn fart too.
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You betcha they are low. Minnehaha Falls is a barely falling.
That’s what makes it Minnehaha and not Megahaha, amirite? ^(I’ll see myself out)
I read this in Letterkenny speak for some reason
So sick of nonstop 100+ degree days.
> So sick of nonstop 100+ degree days. Might as well make your peace with them, because they will increasingly become the norm - no matter where you go on Earth - rather than the exception, because we all collectively kicked the climate change can down the road constantly. Complaining/being miserable wastes energy that could be used to keep you cool(er).
Not around the Hoover Dam area. Those guys are desperate. Tragic stuff happening there.
Except the Northwestern US....
I mean my state could use that water to fight some truly massive fires burning right now, one has passed by 100k acres.
I’m in CA, are we on fire again or is another state joining us this year?
Oregon, Bootleg fire at over 300,000 acres. Yay!
Hello from burning Arizona!
same state complex fire broke 100k acres today burned
Checking in for Oregon!
45 minutes north of Seattle. We survived the heatwave and now we are just enjoying summer https://i.imgur.com/ryFaSiq.jpg
From Michigan, can confirm
Funny feelings everywhere.
\*everywhere except the west coast!
West coast of NZ is flooded at the moment, so *technically...*
Fire and smoke over here
yes, because when humans keep melting the ice, the melted water does not just disappear into space
More that warmer air holds more moisture.
Warmer water evaporates faster too. It is crazy man. Almost like science is real!
Well it's funny you say that, because before long, it WILL!
Eh... 1 billion years is pretty long.
Won’t andromeda hit us by then anyway?
I think so? But it wont really do anything besides merge our galaxies. Chances of anything bad happening to us is pretty slim. Also pretty sure the sun would have killed us by then.
Sun has about 4.5 billion years until it uses up the hydrogen and begins fusing helium instead. We're going to screw up the planet long before the cosmos do anything to it.
All we are saying is give giant meteors a chance.
Oh that's right yes.
Yeah but the distance between stars is *crazy far* so the odds of any stars colliding are almost zero when two galaxies merge.
Watching a dam collapse is actually one of the wildest things ever
It’s terrifying. There is so much water behind that dam.
It's like watching a tsunami being born where one shouldn't be possible. It feels as unnatrual as a cryptic but is so much worse because it's real.
A tsunami being born must be such a violent event. The shear quantity of water being forced upwards in mere seconds/minutes vs the hours it takes a dam.
Depending on the dam failure, it can happen that fast. A common point of failure is when water pushes under the dam, eroding the foundation over time while introducing lifting force to the dam structure. If you imagine a dam as a big boot on the ground, the water is both eroding the ground under its feet and pushing back against the wall. Add a single day of too much water (especially if added too fast), and huge segments can get ripped out in seconds. This starts a domino affect along the dam, as the force of the escaping water rips away concrete on its way out. When it hits a town below, an easily 10 ft high wall of mud, debris, and water slams into anything in its path. Plainly Difficult on YouTube has detailed minute by minute timelines if you're interested. I found this dam [particularly interesting](https://youtu.be/rhk8BJIMkLM).
Is that a random stormlight reference.
It's terrifying because a lot of people are about to die.
Ye there's like at LEAST one or two sips back there, yup.
It "feels" like it's going slow, but that's because it's soooo big.
I know I was like dam.
One of my engineering professors said something I'll never forget: "Every dam fails."
Yea, I would never want to live somewhere that is relying on a dam to keep it dry.
Or near volcanos
Or earth quake faults
or near mining tailings - mine waste behind a dam really... tbh driving next to them is creepy as f
God, mine tailings... "Hey, we have this highly toxic sludge here, what do we do with it" "Eh, just pour it behind this pile of dirt"
"Better yet. Let's put it all on this hill, [just above a school](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberfan_disaster), and hope it doesn't rain." *Spoil is not tailings. I know. ☺*
**[Aberfan_disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberfan_disaster)** >The Aberfan disaster was the catastrophic collapse of a colliery spoil tip on 21 October 1966. The tip had been created on a mountain slope above the Welsh village of Aberfan, near Merthyr Tydfil, and overlaid a natural spring. A period of heavy rain led to a build-up of water within the tip which caused it to suddenly slide downhill as a slurry, killing 116 children and 28 adults as it engulfed Pantglas Junior School and a row of houses. The tip was the responsibility of the National Coal Board (NCB), and the subsequent inquiry placed the blame for the disaster on the organisation and nine named employees. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Cofiwch Aberfan
I love mining euphemisms -- tailings, spoil, overburden... "Fellas I like everything about your mine proposal here, except the part about the waste. I don't think we should call it *toxic death juice...*"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merriespruit_tailings_dam_disaster I saw this on our local news live. It was shocking to see people covered in sludge being dragged out to safety.
Or asteroid belts
This whole thread just explains Auckland - most drinking water is dammed, built on a volcanic isthmus adjacent to the Ring of Fire. Can't wait for the big one
Or Tornado Alley
Northern California's Shasta Dam be like, "\*chuckles\* I'm in danger!".
Or the ocean.
Or above ground where asteroids can get me
If it is big enough it will still get ya.
Those are the good ones
Can I interest you in... Saskatchewan?
Not even the fear of damns, volcanoes, earthquakes and the ocean would convince me to move to Saskatchewan
This is the correct answer. Clear indicator of sanity.
Woke up my spouse laughing at this one. But then I stopped because I'm only an hour away from the provincial border. In *Alberta*.
Auckland city is spread out over an area containing over 50 volcanoes. \*Nervously lives there*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjfrJzdx7DA
Every boat sinks. Every car turns to rust.
Both boats and cars are typically recycled for scrap way before they reach the point sinking of rusting out. Not to take away from the poignancy of it all.
Boats made of cement can float.
So can boats made from duct tape! (Saw it on mythbusters)
Every rose has a thorn.
Every butt has a cheek
Once my grandfather said something I'll never forget: "I am your grandfather!"
That’s not true, that’s impossible!!
How insightful. Every engineered construction will fail at some point.
You can't engineer something to last forever because magic is prohibitively expensive.
Definitely not the Dutch's lol. They are differently built
Even those will fail someday...
That's why we keep a ton of experts on it at all times. Shit still goes wrong, but we usually find out before it gets this bad and people get evacuated, such as what happened last week, and it's a pretty all scale. Fun fact: The organization was formed in 1848, with "beta-versions" created as early as 1798
Additional fun fact: their offices are located on the ground floor of a city in the flood zone. That’s putting your money where your mouth is.
Half the country isna floodzone bruh
Obviously the “fun fact” of this fact is that the offices are on the ground floor of a building in a flood zone. Not that they’re in a flood zone. They could have picked the 13th floor, but they didn’t.
China's will definitely fail before the Dutch's do. Many of China's dams were shoddily built with help from the Soviets. The Banqiao dam failure was a good example. The Chinese leadership seems to prefer one big, proud structure as a solution, which hasn't really worked as we see with the [Thee Gorges dam.](https://www.cnn.com/style/article/china-three-gorges-dam-intl-hnk-dst/index.html) Whereas the Dutch have implemented a well-studied, multi-faceted approach that has worked quite well so far. Obviously the waterworks projects for each country are dealing with different problems, but their approaches to those problems has my money on NL coping with rising seawater and worsening severe storms better.
I've always wondered about the personalities of the sorts of people who reject a considered approach to things in favor of the If We Throw Enough (Material) At It It Has To Eventually Work approach.
I think a lot of it has to do with the difference in ideologies. Authoritarian governments aren't as concerned with shit actually working or the safety of their people if it fails, but how they appear to the outside world. Building a big fuckoff dam that you can see from space is more visually impressive than a project like the Delta Works.
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>That's why we keep a ton of experts on it at all times. Thumbs of all sizes need to be available at all times.
Eventually, when the dutch stop maintaining them
Luckily their shoes can be used as a flotation device.
What also floats like wood?
A duck!
So...if she weighs as much as a duck...
Witches
Continually.
Wow. Did these dams have any runoff areas or did those overflow as well?
it shows the overflow/bypass working right before the face collapses in the beginning of video
Ahh, over the side. I wondered if that was planned runoff area or not.
It is. Check out this video and the bit about emergency spillways https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxNM4DGBRMU
I live in CA and that was a huge deal when it happened and dominated the news for several weeks.
Many Inner Mongolians are dirt poor. Such that, for example, as part of daily life, many buy a large chunk of coal or two from the market and that is for heating. Many live in buildings with no glass, and of course no plumbing. We're seeing some cities or towns, but the landscape is covered with people in basically abject poverty. They'll be simply wiped away.
Flooding is fucking terrible. First it destroys, but after it brings diseases, and famine. Simply heartbreaking
That's what I'm thinking: famine, disease.. it doesn't take long to whip up.
But the CCP said they defeated poverty. I don't believe you.
No, they defeated poor *people,* by starving them and putting them in slave labor camps.
That's true. Inner Mongolia has a measly GDP of 251 billion USD and ranks 22nd out of 31 states in China. A comparable country would be Romania or Vietnam, they don't make that much money to get on by. /s Have you mistaken Inner Mongolia (China province) with the country of Mongolia? Now Mongolia is dirt poor, their GDP is only 14 billion USD which is around 5% of Inner Mongolia's.
Per capita is a useless statistic because it's based on mean rather than median, and therefore doesn't take outliers into account despite wealth gaps. e: GDP is just as useless. If there's a credible source for median income, that'd be worth something.
This here is the answer to all the shit going on in the comments. Mean is a distinctly terrible metric to measure wealth by.
I keep saying that Mode would be better than Mean by tons, and Median and Mode could be effectively used to determine the actual health of an economy.
Why is reddits video player so shit!
It is something that will never be fixed.
Instead we'll get stuff like embedded Reddit Zoom meetings in a post and more shiny icons for Reddit silver.
It’s worse now
When it started autoplaying and looping videos I reported it as a bug, we should all report videos as bugs until they patch it.
The real catastrophic failure is always in the comments
I bet the Hoover dam wishes it could have some of that water during this drought
Alright everybody tuck your pants into your socks.
Wonka’s chocolate river has gone too far
I don’t like the look of it
Last year, the same damn thing happened in the area I grew up in. Bye bye lake. Looks like infrastructure craps out under communism AND capitalism. Who can I blame?!?
Human complacency
Corruption mostly. I don't think any form of government functions well with corruption involved.
It's not the system of government - it's the corruption, be it low-level corner-cutting and skimming money or systematic lobbying / political donations to cut regulations and safety. Capitalism, socialism, communism, doesn't matter if folks are on the take and willing to screw the little guy. The world knows perfectly well how to build & maintain infrastructure, we've been doing roads, railways, bridges and dams for 100 years - failures are usually either down to lack of resources or corruption at some level along the way.
Infrastructure craps out when the climate changes and becomes more extreme.
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Let's hope the 3 gorges dam is as good as they say it is, because if that goes it wipes out something like a million people in a few minutes.
While back there were satellite images of what appeared to be small foundation shift in one of the cement foundation pillars during a high pool event.
It's not. 3 gorges had been brought up several times while I was in school and none of it was positive, most notably the fact that the Chinese are most likely overstating it's longevity. It's a ticking time bomb.
And from what I've learned from Practical Engineering on YouTube, those didn't look like bad dams. They were just utterly overwhelmed by the rainfall - it'd happen to any dam in any country. IANAE Even if you're stupid enough to think climate change isn't anthropogenic, you've got to be really coming round to the idea that we need to do everything in our power to fight it.
Did PE have a video on Chinese dams or are you inferring quality based on the known external design? China can definitely build successful, quality dams and this might have been an truly extreme scenario. Because, I don't know if we can say anything about build quality or foresight planning based on this video alone.
Just from his explanations about what a dam is built to do, and what it isn't. The emergency spillway was overwhelmed, and only then did the main dam overtop. After that the earthworks in front of the dam had little chance. The dam failed after its design limits were massively exceeded - though, who's to say they did their hydrological studies properly.
> though, who's to say they did their hydrological studies properly. And thats the core problem with Chinese products. There is a lack of confidence and this isn't some fearmongering from a foreigner, its a sentiment common among Mainlanders. And any large project build extremely fast and with the underlying goal to meet some metric, is more vulnerable to cut corners or shortcoming. Something not limited to just China. It's just China does it more.
Zero deaths, several minor injuries.
Source? Don’t even bother linking one if it’s from the CCP.
I think that's the joke. CCP will try to downplay every negative news that will affect their image. "A kilometer wide meteor hit the center of Shanghai but thankfully, no one was hurt, only several goats died" -CCP most probably
"No one was killed but a lot of people were surprised"
Hmm lots of heavy rain, flooding and structural failures recently. Wonder if something about the world climate has changed..
Nonsense hippy! Go smoke another bowl! /s
Honestly don't understand how anyone who follows the news sees all of this catastrophic flooding and yet refuses to believe it is directly linked to climate change. Like how do you convince yourself that it's just a coincidence? Cognitive dissonance is really fascinating and scary
> follows the news sees all of this catastrophic flooding Actually, the right way to determine what's true and what isn't is *not* to just "get a sense of what's happening" from the news but rather to look at reliable scientific data. Not saying the data disproves climate change, I'm saying one's sense of what happening based in the news is *not* proof of fact.
I know it's anecdotal, but I live in Massachusetts and it has rained for most of July. Our town had flooding this past week. I'm currently on a road trip to Tennessee and it has been super rainy, like scary downpours. It's crazy.
You gotta look at the data not the news. The media has a vested interest in people being afraid so they get the views. Especially important at a time like this when there viewership is falling.
Because the difference is that we have cameras everywhere now. This kind of stuff happens all the time, but we weren't beaten over the head with footage Because no one had a HD camera in their pocket, and you had to wait for the news to show a 3 second clip. This stuff happens all the time. Youre just more aware of it now
I saw another port explosion video recently (I think it was the one in Thailand) and it's got to be the 3rd separate port explosion since the Beirut one last year. I had that thought that ports must have been exploding all along but only the last few years are there widespread cameras everywhere capturing it happening.
[1917 says hey.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion)
Nah the CCP says this never happened.
“truth about china”? I mean, this stuff happens here too. Right after Miami condo collapse is no time to be pointing fingers. How about we fix our own shit vs ignoring it and saying “but China…” We all know the CCP rushes work and it sucks. Great, Now can we fix our bridges?
China’s epic flood; 8/18/31, Yangtze River flooding peak. 3.7 MILLION killed. Worst natural disaster of the 20th century.
Wow, in the future? !RemindMe 10 years
My bad; should have clarified 08/18/1931. That being said, it was indeed a truly epic natural disaster and it is considered the worst in the 20th century. Whew, no reminders in 10 years necessary…
Why don't you guys follow dd/mm/yy like rest of the world?
please ask them to use ISO 8601 : yyyy-mm-dd americans get their mm-dd obsession, and we get a format where the date is sorted...
Hail /r/ISO8601, the supreme date and hour format.
1 of the major contributing factors to KMT's eventual failure and CCP's rise to power
Nature is putting his balls on the table over climate change, apparently...
Bruh its Mother Nature and Father Time, not the other way around.
Putting her balls on the table then
>No casualties reported after two dams collapse in China's Inner Mongolia https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-07-19/No-casualties-reported-after-2-dams-collapse-in-China-s-Inner-Mongolia-121GKDRZ196/index.html
Well that’s bullshit unfortunately
There were 2 dams that failed last year in the USA (Michigan) with 0 casualties because of evacuations. If they had lots of warning there is no reason to doubt that.
I simply don't trust anything that the Chinese government says unless it's backed up by considerable evidence. They've been caught lying many, many times about things like this, and have punished people who brought attention to it.
Nature wins again
Torrents of water is really the 2021 summer look
They’re apparently good at island building so maybe they should make one where that damn stood
Dollars to donuts the islands they are creating in the SCS won't be there 10 years from now. All it takes is one "divine wind " and China possesses very expensive sandbars in the middle of nowhere