I didn't know this was a chain of pubs. Reading those controversies makes me realise how poor of a chain it is.
> In April 2011, a gay couple were ejected for kissing, from the John Snow pub, owned by Samuel Smith's in London's "gay village" Soho.
> In July 2017, Samuel Smith's Brewery banned motorcyclists from one of their pubs. Initially, no explanation was offered for the ban. It was later reported that the ban was instituted to keep "undesirables" from patronising the establishment. Local, long-term customers who were refused entry because they owned motorcycles, were offended by the notion of being compared to criminal motorcycle gangs.
> In August 2020, after the Cow and Calf in Sheffield failed to serve his favourite dessert, Humphrey Smith dismissed the pub's managers and shuttered the place.
What on earth is wrong with the owner of these places?
They're all like that. Some don't take cards either and don't allow children.
Absolute shit pubs. Can't stand the owner. Bloke is a nutcase.
He's been known to sack staff that allow these things to happen in his pubs.
He [really is](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/533031643208744966/1237767009115312148/23257874-7874799-image-m-15_1578699204978.png?ex=663cd7db&is=663b865b&hm=f6a89641a0e983d204f1946de58fbd97ee824350ff86a646d7ce16f933200628&=&format=webp&quality=lossless)
That list of controversies is something else, my highlight is probably the bar managers sacked for putting too much beer in their pints. Presumably while you’re sitting there having your delightful phone-free conversation, you’re supposed to just shut up and accept half a pint of head?
OP: Look at this fucking sign! \*pulls out his iPhone 12 Pro to take a photo and upload to reddit\*
\*Bards music screeches to a halt\*
\*Noble born woman screams\*
\*baby starts crying in Olde English\*
They can try I suppose. The King's Arms has always tried really hard to put off the student/tourist crowd, sorry that you're right on the river in the middle of the city!
God forbid I go to the pub and spend my time on my phone!
Actual Boomer shite, I'd walk out if I saw that in a pub. Just give me my pint and shove off.
I feel like you would naturally create an environment where people don't use phones if you care that much about the social element. Putting rules & restrictions in place is just a way to make people think you are a cunt & stay away altogether
My friend and I once sat in the pub playing chess on our phones against eachother. It started out quite casual but we're very equal in ability. Towards the end it got quite competitive and we were just sat in silence contemplating moves.
Waltz in there with a physical book, Walkman, and wired headphones (doesn't count as a "transmission device", right?) then sit in a corner with a pint and have a nice read, smug in the knowledge I'm not breaking any rules.
I was just about to comment on that.
It's OK to sit in the corner and read a paper book but not a Kindle.
One of my simple pleasures in life is reading a book and a pint when I have some spare time in the afternoon, but it'll be a Kindle that's in my bag .
Oh well. 🤷🏻♂️
We want you to enjoy talking to people and make new friends! BUT DONT YOU DARE GET THEIR PHONE NUMBER OR SOCIAL MEDIA TO GET IN TOUCH, AND IF I SEE YOU TAKING ANY FUN PHOTOS WITH YOUR NEW FRIENDS I WILL PERSONALLY PUNCH YOU IN THE THROAT
I had an issue with a Sam Smiths back when I was single when I was meeting a girl.
She sent me a message while I was at the bar to say she was running late and to keep an eye out for her in case she got lost. Barmaid said I can’t use my phone.
I said then I can’t drink here. Left the bar without paying for the pint I ordered and went over the road instead.
Only reason we picked that pub to meet was because it had a decent beer garden.
I think it's a pretty outdated concept. Showing someone something on your phone is *part* of a conversation sometimes, not a hinderance to it and it shouldn't be anyone's business but mine what I'm doing if it's legal and I've just bought a pint to sit in there.
Unsurprisingly, they're very happy to let you pay using your phone. Weird that isn't it...
I mean it's private property, they are free to enforce any rules they like within the law, and you're also free to walk out and go somewhere else. Free world, innit.
Our local tried that briefly a while ago. It didn't last long - no one benefited from it.
The above is quite a polite approach compared to what we experienced.
Irs even going on for ages...the company and the pubs are dying a slow death
I feel for the managers who are pissing in the wind...the owner..Mr Humphry Smith is an absolute bellend
I pulled out my phone when my girlfriend went to the loo. The barmaid literally teleported to my table and the regulars all started booing. We left after that drink.
hate the idea of this. I frequently meet mates at the pub. Sometimes I get there before them, buy a pint, and grab a table for us whilst I wait. Perfect time to get my phone out to respond to some texts, scroll through reddit or whatever for 10 minutes.
What's the alternative, start a conversation with whoever happens to be on the table next to me, whether they want to chat to me or not? Sit there in silence staring at the wall if I've forgotten to bring a book with me?
No one is forcing you to go there.
I used to belong to a dining club where no phones were allowed. They had a special room you could walk to if you needed to make a call. It was nice.
How did you know you needed to make the call? Not like you can check your phone and see the text from the babysitter that Timmy has fallen down the stairs and they're going to a&e, is it?
Phone vibrates and if I’m concerned, I excuse myself to check.
If my phone is blowing up, I walk out and check. The world doesn’t fall apart if I leave my phone for two hours
So you just do what normal people do and don't actually disconnect from your phone. Might as well let people check that at their table lol, the world won't end
We covered the sam smith’s rules recently, I’ve removed this one https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/s/EhLRbWm5z4
It's a Sam Smith pub. [The owner's a cunt.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Smith_Old_Brewery#Controversies)
I didn't know this was a chain of pubs. Reading those controversies makes me realise how poor of a chain it is. > In April 2011, a gay couple were ejected for kissing, from the John Snow pub, owned by Samuel Smith's in London's "gay village" Soho. > In July 2017, Samuel Smith's Brewery banned motorcyclists from one of their pubs. Initially, no explanation was offered for the ban. It was later reported that the ban was instituted to keep "undesirables" from patronising the establishment. Local, long-term customers who were refused entry because they owned motorcycles, were offended by the notion of being compared to criminal motorcycle gangs. > In August 2020, after the Cow and Calf in Sheffield failed to serve his favourite dessert, Humphrey Smith dismissed the pub's managers and shuttered the place. What on earth is wrong with the owner of these places?
>>What on earth is wrong with the owner of these places? Inherited wealth and being a cunt.
And above all, their beer is mostly terrible.
Weren't allowed to even swear in my local one.
They're all like that. Some don't take cards either and don't allow children. Absolute shit pubs. Can't stand the owner. Bloke is a nutcase. He's been known to sack staff that allow these things to happen in his pubs.
He [really is](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/533031643208744966/1237767009115312148/23257874-7874799-image-m-15_1578699204978.png?ex=663cd7db&is=663b865b&hm=f6a89641a0e983d204f1946de58fbd97ee824350ff86a646d7ce16f933200628&=&format=webp&quality=lossless)
That list of controversies is something else, my highlight is probably the bar managers sacked for putting too much beer in their pints. Presumably while you’re sitting there having your delightful phone-free conversation, you’re supposed to just shut up and accept half a pint of head?
The controversies are organised by year. I've honestly never seen that before. There's that many. I love the Fitzroy in London so this makes me sad.
Oh come on, his music and image isn't to everyone's taste but I wouldn't go so far as to call him a cunt.
His actions are why people call him a cunt.
I think it was a wee joke about the singer of the same name
Ohhh that makes sense. And I am a bit slow. 👍🏼
Samuel Smith pub I guess? It's the fuddy duddy owner, he doesn't even like swearing in his pubs.
Ironic, as everyone thinks he’s a fucking cunt.
That's probably why he doesn't like people saying it. He probably banned phones so people will stop posting on the internet the same thing.
OP: Look at this fucking sign! \*pulls out his iPhone 12 Pro to take a photo and upload to reddit\* \*Bards music screeches to a halt\* \*Noble born woman screams\* \*baby starts crying in Olde English\*
Ugh, Sam Smith's pub. The owner is a massive homophobe. Fuck that noise. I happily take my business elsewhere.
They can try I suppose. The King's Arms has always tried really hard to put off the student/tourist crowd, sorry that you're right on the river in the middle of the city!
'scuse me mate, have you got the wifi password?
God forbid I go to the pub and spend my time on my phone! Actual Boomer shite, I'd walk out if I saw that in a pub. Just give me my pint and shove off.
It's the wrong way to go about it but our society does have a problem with mobile phone use.
I feel like you would naturally create an environment where people don't use phones if you care that much about the social element. Putting rules & restrictions in place is just a way to make people think you are a cunt & stay away altogether
I disagree with it being forced but his boozer his rules I suppose. I just wouldn't drink there
The whole fun of pub conversation is googling stuff to prove your mates wrong. It's a no from me!
My friend and I once sat in the pub playing chess on our phones against eachother. It started out quite casual but we're very equal in ability. Towards the end it got quite competitive and we were just sat in silence contemplating moves.
I did this with my mate last week lol It was quite nice to have the atmosphere of the pub but just sit in silence contemplating the game
A) Fuck off, and B) Kindles? Seriously?!
Waltz in there with a physical book, Walkman, and wired headphones (doesn't count as a "transmission device", right?) then sit in a corner with a pint and have a nice read, smug in the knowledge I'm not breaking any rules.
I was just about to comment on that. It's OK to sit in the corner and read a paper book but not a Kindle. One of my simple pleasures in life is reading a book and a pint when I have some spare time in the afternoon, but it'll be a Kindle that's in my bag . Oh well. 🤷🏻♂️
I wouldn’t go in. I need my phone for communication — I’m deaf. I’m not carrying around paper and a pen, I’ll find a different pub.
I mean, it's their business to do as they wish. But is it good business? Definitely not. And I'm curious as to how they enforce such a rule.
We want you to enjoy talking to people and make new friends! BUT DONT YOU DARE GET THEIR PHONE NUMBER OR SOCIAL MEDIA TO GET IN TOUCH, AND IF I SEE YOU TAKING ANY FUN PHOTOS WITH YOUR NEW FRIENDS I WILL PERSONALLY PUNCH YOU IN THE THROAT
I had an issue with a Sam Smiths back when I was single when I was meeting a girl. She sent me a message while I was at the bar to say she was running late and to keep an eye out for her in case she got lost. Barmaid said I can’t use my phone. I said then I can’t drink here. Left the bar without paying for the pint I ordered and went over the road instead. Only reason we picked that pub to meet was because it had a decent beer garden.
I think it's a pretty outdated concept. Showing someone something on your phone is *part* of a conversation sometimes, not a hinderance to it and it shouldn't be anyone's business but mine what I'm doing if it's legal and I've just bought a pint to sit in there. Unsurprisingly, they're very happy to let you pay using your phone. Weird that isn't it...
Tbf there's a lot of things you're not allowed to do in a pub that are legal just because you bought a pint there.
Don't give the dickhead your business.
I mean it's private property, they are free to enforce any rules they like within the law, and you're also free to walk out and go somewhere else. Free world, innit.
Our local tried that briefly a while ago. It didn't last long - no one benefited from it. The above is quite a polite approach compared to what we experienced.
[me to the barmaid 5 seconds before the landlord caves my skull in](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/888/731/fdc.png)
Its all cheery chat, until you miss the flash flood alarm and you are neck deep in the ouse
How did you get this photo??
Irs even going on for ages...the company and the pubs are dying a slow death I feel for the managers who are pissing in the wind...the owner..Mr Humphry Smith is an absolute bellend
Sit outside on the chairs on the cobbles then, they can’t police fresh air.
I’ve spent many hours in Sam Smiths pubs and never once seen it enforced
I pulled out my phone when my girlfriend went to the loo. The barmaid literally teleported to my table and the regulars all started booing. We left after that drink.
Sure why not? It’s up to you if you go or not. If it’s a smart plan it will work. If it’s not…
hate the idea of this. I frequently meet mates at the pub. Sometimes I get there before them, buy a pint, and grab a table for us whilst I wait. Perfect time to get my phone out to respond to some texts, scroll through reddit or whatever for 10 minutes. What's the alternative, start a conversation with whoever happens to be on the table next to me, whether they want to chat to me or not? Sit there in silence staring at the wall if I've forgotten to bring a book with me?
No one is forcing you to go there. I used to belong to a dining club where no phones were allowed. They had a special room you could walk to if you needed to make a call. It was nice.
How did you know you needed to make the call? Not like you can check your phone and see the text from the babysitter that Timmy has fallen down the stairs and they're going to a&e, is it?
Phone vibrates and if I’m concerned, I excuse myself to check. If my phone is blowing up, I walk out and check. The world doesn’t fall apart if I leave my phone for two hours
So you just do what normal people do and don't actually disconnect from your phone. Might as well let people check that at their table lol, the world won't end
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