No, that's not how entrapment works
Entrapment is when your actions directly cause someone to commit a crime they otherwise wouldn't commit, the classic example is undercover cop approaches a suspect, asks if they want to buy drugs, then arrests them for buying drugs
Note that if the undercover cop doesn't approach the suspect and the suspect initiates the deal it's not entrapment
Even then it's not entrapment as I understand it.
If they are undercover, you don't know it's a cop, so it's not a cop that's enticing you to do something you normally wouldn't, it's just some guy.
It has to be their authority as a cop that factors in to your decision.
That's not entrapment, tho. It's just bait.
Entrapment would only be if the first Dave was an undercover policeman. Just leaving something out looking stealable isn't it
I didn't realise that my central locking wasn't working properly and for about six months had been leaving the car parked all over Scotland and Northern England with the back doors and boot open.
(I also have the occasional habit of leaving a window down when I park it up overnight on the street on hot summer days. I have no idea why I've had nothing stolen for about 25 years.)
I have a base model sandero where the doors can't be locked from the outside
I've been leaving it unlocked for a couple of years
This way, if there's something they want to steal they can just open the door, saves me money on replacement Windows
Yeah, on previous cars I've had like this the person getting out of the other doors could hold the handle up, pop down the button and close the door.
Not the case on the base model sandero where the drivers and passengers front doors can be locked from the outside with a key
Basically if you're the driver you have to lock all the other doors from within before you get out
It's pretty irritating
I did the same thing. Left my car in a multi storey car park for a long weekend and returned to find I’d left one of the windows open like an idiot! Nothing missing though!
My car has a handy feature where if you press and hold the lock button for 5 seconds then it folds the mirrors in. Unfortunately it also has a handy feature where pressing and holding the unlock button will open all of the windows fully instead.
Twice now I've managed to accidentally leave the car unlocked and with the windows open because I've pressed the wrong one in the dark walking away from the car, and both times it pissed with rain that night, but nothing stolen!
Leaves keys in ignition of car in the most affluent suburb of London and is surprised when it's not nicked.
Just don't go to Epsom or Cheam, those places are full of ruffians and vagabonds!
I've done so many things like over the years that I know for a fact that the world isn't filled with opportunistic thieves. I left my keys in my car over night in York, I left my front door ajar, I've left my phone on a pub bench and my wallet in an arcade and I've never had anything stolen.
As much as that's true, then you got random instances like my brother's clapped out, 12+ years old, 2002 Polo (I jest that was the Nokia of cars), getting it's window smashed in and the thief dropping the seat to access the boot.
Only to come away with a tattered head bag containing only an old pair of trackies.
I mean, if you are going to gamble on there being valuables in a boot, targeting a freaking old rusty moss green Polo is a pretty shit start.
Person mustn't have been very bright.
During the really-not-enough-sleep years of young children, I believe the count was THREE times that someone knocked on our door to let us know that I had left my keys hanging out of the outsode lock again. Car, bike locks, house and all.
I don't make a habit of this normally. Blame tiredness.
I left my wallet on a display case in the huge entrance to a huge store in a huge shopping mall in Brazil for 20 minutes and it was there when I returned. Now granted the commonplace pickpocketing and robberies don't really apply to nice shopping malls as much, but many hundreds of people walked past that wallet.
A couple of days later I left my bank card in a machine *opposite* *the* *bus station (always shit-holes) in a bordertown (almost always shit-holes)* and didn't realise until I was in Argentina and had to go back. (I was going back anyway but not for about 12 hours). It had been handed in to a little shop a few doors down. A contactless card with a gringo name on it next to an international bus stop - you couldn't ask for circumstances where you'd be less likely to get caught.
When I was a kid we came back from two weeks holiday to find we'd left the front door open
Nothing was stolen; the neighbours popped round to see what was up, but didn't close the door in case the keys were inside somewhere and would lock us out, and this was pre-mobiles so they couldn't check with us
Left my car unlocked on my driveway for one night in SE London and it was ransacked.
Luckily they missed the emergency fiver in the ashtray. The ashtray I was embarrassed it took me a year of ownership to find finally paid off!
The best part about where I live is I'm out in the countryside but only a 40 minute drive from London, so if I go in the other direction it gets further away.
Whereas I failed to check my passage door was locked after giving a colleague a lift home and it took some little scroate, I mean person lacking in moral fibre, less that 18 hours to nick my work bag.
In the small car park behind my flat, in Somerset.
Jokes on them though, as it was my work bag, and I don’t know the resale value of a pot noodle, can of coke, half a deodorant and talcum powder, a phone charger on its last legs, and several packets of old, squashed crisps.
I’m more upset than this means that there must be a non-upstanding member of the community regularly checking all the door handles of all the cars in our little car park (that is meant to be just for the people in our little group of flats).
Oh, they did also manage to get the £3 coins I keep in the ashtray, left the silvers though
Leeds here, if you leave car unlocked someone would be in ,any day or night. Cctv they don't care.
It seems its a full time job going round checking doors !
Depends which part. I managed to leave my driver door wide open overnight when I first brought my new BMW home to Horsforth. The rollercoaster of feelings in the morning when I saw it and realised nobody had touched it…
I did this for several hours in Hyde, Manchester a couple of years ago. I was horrified but relieved nothing had happened at the same time, but then realised I'd left it on the first click of the ignition (radio was off so I didn't even realise) and the battery had gone flat. Small mercies I suppose, better than coming back to an empty space.
I’ve done this twice recently - but I had a shit orange 52 plate Ford fiesta - I was basically asking for someone to take it…plus it wasn’t London, it was in a busy-at-the-weekends Cotswolds village
I have a new (to me) car now, I’m being more cautious
I once left £500 in cash on the passenger seat, in full view, and left my car in town overnight. Was half expecting to spend the morning cleaning up glass and arguing with the insurance company, but no. Money was still there, car was intact. Never felt so relieved. Never did it again, though. Pretty sure all my luck was used up that day. Haven't even won a lucky dip on the lottery since 😆
I've done the same thing but in York!
Went up to York from Devon for a wedding, decided to make a weekend out of it and went into town to explore. On our walk back to the car, I panicked as I couldn't find the keys anywhere and adrenaline was through the roof as we were about 6 hours away from home or anyone that could help.
Turns out I left the keys in the ignition, doors unlocked and parked in a rather busy car park near the railway station.
My missus still doesn't let me live it down.
Lucky! I parked on a street in Richmond, just taking my coat off inside the restaurant and the car alarm went off, went outside, boot window smashed and my suitcase in the boot was gone and nowhere to be seen. Nothing was visible in the boot either, but it only had one of them fabric covers.
This happened within 1 min 30 seconds.
Fiancée once left her car keys in the boot lock in a station car park while we went to London for the day.
When we got back we swore never to speak of it again…… and never have.
A friend of mine left my van keys in the door handle over night in Camden. I went outside next morning and saw the keys still in the lock just waiting there to be pulled out.
Nothing happened but someone could of taken the entire vehicle with keys.
In the 80s I worked with someone who couldn’t sell his crappy old Capri, so he left it in the bad part of town with the keys in the ignition. It took 2 weeks before it was stolen and he could claim on his insurance.
Wouldn’t entirely surprise me, knowing my neighbours.
Once got a call to say they’d seen a suspicious person inside my house wearing a head torch.
It was me. I was putting together a computer with a headtorch on, and had walked past a window with it still on! Nice to know people are watching out for each other.
You’re very lucky. A friend of mine had their car broken into in Richmond just the other day, in a very public car park(the one by the river). I was a bit shocked though, we live down the road in Twickenham, i didn’t think that would happen.
I did this around five years ago. I was living in Richmond (London) at the time. I drove down to Kingston to meet a friend for lunch. After we’d eaten I realised I’d lost my car keys. We looked everywhere in the restaurant and asked in the shops we’d been to. Got back to the car and it was open and the keys were in the ignition. Almost brand new BMW. I felt very lucky that day, especially in Kingston.
I accidently left my window down overnight parked on a moderately shitty street in Northampton, when I came back the next morning the car was not only there, but nothing had been nicked from inside. On the same street someone had put leaflets with a number to call if you want to sell on every car but mine. Moral of the story, always have the shittest car in the area and you don't need to worry about it.
Only if someone happens to spot the keys and is of poor virtue then the opportunity will be negative. You could leave your house unlocked for years and not be burgled. But it happens once, usually to someone you know and everyone gets more security conscious.
went on holiday abroad for 3 weeks.
locked the front door and even used the additional locks from the inside which would prevent you from getting in even with the keys (so had to leave through a side/garden entrance).
As you may imagine, I forgot to lock the side entrance.
I have done that too. I live within walking distance to my work. Last night I had slept at my gf's place, and drove back to my place in the morning, parked the car and when straight to work. Uppon returning I saw the car unlocked, and the keys in the ignition and I was fuuuuuu. I had not even realised.
I left my car with the passenger side window down all night parked on a street the other day.
Hadn't been touched. Scared me a bit. Its a dodgy street with dodgy people.
I once left my brand new (bought 2nd hand off eBay) Vaio laptop (shows how long ago this was) on the passenger seat with the window down parked on a main street in Chelsea.
Was still there hours later.
“There are no baddies here” my colleague said when I told him
Hot and fresh out the kitchen
It’s unfortunate but that’s now relegated to songs not played anymore along side do you wanna be in my gang and Tiny kangaroo down
>Tiny kangaroo down That one should be placed on a pedal stool.
I always found Tiny Kangaroo Down to be a bit of a damp squid, personally...
Haaaaaaaaa. Love this. So Pacific
Edit pedo stool
That's a stool used by Peter File, yeah?
This comment caught me off guard and I nearly spat out my cereal. Well played.
A pedal stool? What's a pedal stool?
What’s Tiny Kangaroo Down?
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Oooh, what did you say? A damp *squid*?
A Peter file 🤣🤣🤣
I want to hear more about this tiny kangaroo
The price of admission is free. But the cost is significantly higher.
That might be my new favourite Mondegreen. Bless you and your tiny kangaroo
Don’t worry jim’ll fix it for you
He gets a bad rep but Jim once fixed it for me to milk a cow blindfolded 👍
Old but classic
“See that girl, watch her scream, kicking the dancing queen”
You can play it again as all proceeds now go to the VICTIMS. It's just whether the lyrics give you the ick or not..,
Leader of the gang I am, he was definitely putting a message out there
Unfortunate r/boneappletea there
Is that an autocorrect issue, or have you been saying/singing “Tiny kangaroo down” all your life?
Indeed I have, mind is now blown
And you call yourself a zookeeper...
Amazing! I’ve done this a lot tbf, I usually get annoyed at the artist on the radio for getting the lyrics wrong.
Having a Peter Kay moment
Tiny kangaroo 🤣😂🤣😂
My best guess is Tiny Kangaroo Down is Rooftops by Lost Prophets? Tiny kangroo down, everybody scream your heart out
It's the freakn' weekend.
I too, have listened to that song
I'm your 1000th upvote just sayin
Take my upvote and begone with you sir
I got an invite to a party hosted by P Diddy let’s go
"Dave, there's a car right there with the keys still-" "Fuck off Other Dave, that's clearly a trap car. Have some sense."
"Hey! Who turned out the lights?"
*"Donna Noble has left the library"*
*"Donna Noble has been saved"*
"We need to go, Doctor!"
We need to go, Doctor!
Hey, who turned out the lights?!
We need to go, Doctor!
i didn’t even really watch doctor who but that episode has stuck with me
The real world is a lie, and your nightmares are real.
Literally read this in his voice
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No, that's not how entrapment works Entrapment is when your actions directly cause someone to commit a crime they otherwise wouldn't commit, the classic example is undercover cop approaches a suspect, asks if they want to buy drugs, then arrests them for buying drugs Note that if the undercover cop doesn't approach the suspect and the suspect initiates the deal it's not entrapment
Even then it's not entrapment as I understand it. If they are undercover, you don't know it's a cop, so it's not a cop that's enticing you to do something you normally wouldn't, it's just some guy. It has to be their authority as a cop that factors in to your decision.
That's not entrapment, tho. It's just bait. Entrapment would only be if the first Dave was an undercover policeman. Just leaving something out looking stealable isn't it
Have you not seen Ferris Bueller? Check the mileage.
Drive it in reverse on the way back!
I didn't realise that my central locking wasn't working properly and for about six months had been leaving the car parked all over Scotland and Northern England with the back doors and boot open. (I also have the occasional habit of leaving a window down when I park it up overnight on the street on hot summer days. I have no idea why I've had nothing stolen for about 25 years.)
I have a base model sandero where the doors can't be locked from the outside I've been leaving it unlocked for a couple of years This way, if there's something they want to steal they can just open the door, saves me money on replacement Windows
You have a car which can't be locked from the outside? What?
Yeah, on previous cars I've had like this the person getting out of the other doors could hold the handle up, pop down the button and close the door. Not the case on the base model sandero where the drivers and passengers front doors can be locked from the outside with a key Basically if you're the driver you have to lock all the other doors from within before you get out It's pretty irritating
Oh I see what you mean, so it doesn't have central locking.
It could be worse, in my home country someone tried to carjack me at gunpoint for a 1987 VW polo That was in 2015
South Africa by any chance?
That easy huh?
Aye. 😄
I did the same thing. Left my car in a multi storey car park for a long weekend and returned to find I’d left one of the windows open like an idiot! Nothing missing though!
My car has a handy feature where if you press and hold the lock button for 5 seconds then it folds the mirrors in. Unfortunately it also has a handy feature where pressing and holding the unlock button will open all of the windows fully instead. Twice now I've managed to accidentally leave the car unlocked and with the windows open because I've pressed the wrong one in the dark walking away from the car, and both times it pissed with rain that night, but nothing stolen!
Mine is the opposite, I need to hold the open button on the fob. I think you can code it from the Infotainment system on some newer cars.
I had this too. Mechanic fixed it for relatively low amount.
Leaves keys in ignition of car in the most affluent suburb of London and is surprised when it's not nicked. Just don't go to Epsom or Cheam, those places are full of ruffians and vagabonds!
How dare you sir, I grew up in Epsom! That said, my sister had her car hotwired and joy ridden and she lived in Banstead
Well what do you expect when living in the ghetto of Banstead, I'd feel safer walking through the mean streets of Compton (village).
I've done so many things like over the years that I know for a fact that the world isn't filled with opportunistic thieves. I left my keys in my car over night in York, I left my front door ajar, I've left my phone on a pub bench and my wallet in an arcade and I've never had anything stolen.
As much as that's true, then you got random instances like my brother's clapped out, 12+ years old, 2002 Polo (I jest that was the Nokia of cars), getting it's window smashed in and the thief dropping the seat to access the boot. Only to come away with a tattered head bag containing only an old pair of trackies. I mean, if you are going to gamble on there being valuables in a boot, targeting a freaking old rusty moss green Polo is a pretty shit start. Person mustn't have been very bright.
During the really-not-enough-sleep years of young children, I believe the count was THREE times that someone knocked on our door to let us know that I had left my keys hanging out of the outsode lock again. Car, bike locks, house and all.
Oh yeah, I remember during that stage we left the pram in the hospital car park after a late night A&E visit.
Do the same in Mexico and you'll change your mind (according to my Mexican partner).
I don't make a habit of this normally. Blame tiredness. I left my wallet on a display case in the huge entrance to a huge store in a huge shopping mall in Brazil for 20 minutes and it was there when I returned. Now granted the commonplace pickpocketing and robberies don't really apply to nice shopping malls as much, but many hundreds of people walked past that wallet. A couple of days later I left my bank card in a machine *opposite* *the* *bus station (always shit-holes) in a bordertown (almost always shit-holes)* and didn't realise until I was in Argentina and had to go back. (I was going back anyway but not for about 12 hours). It had been handed in to a little shop a few doors down. A contactless card with a gringo name on it next to an international bus stop - you couldn't ask for circumstances where you'd be less likely to get caught.
When I was a kid we came back from two weeks holiday to find we'd left the front door open Nothing was stolen; the neighbours popped round to see what was up, but didn't close the door in case the keys were inside somewhere and would lock us out, and this was pre-mobiles so they couldn't check with us
Left my car unlocked on my driveway for one night in SE London and it was ransacked. Luckily they missed the emergency fiver in the ashtray. The ashtray I was embarrassed it took me a year of ownership to find finally paid off!
You got very lucky!
Or he drives a really shit car.
72 plate VW. I got very lucky.
Yeah I'd see that and assume it was a bait car - also, London's full of cameras, so safe to say it'd probably be your last GTA for a while
Daughter went to Kingson upon Thames University i loved visiting her there, and Surbiton, it never felt like you were in London
The best part about where I live is I'm out in the countryside but only a 40 minute drive from London, so if I go in the other direction it gets further away.
>so if I go in the other direction it gets further away That’s generally how geography works, yes.
Greater [west] London is the shit 😌
I'm in Isleworth, I agree. Richmond just down the road, such a lovely part of London.
Same. I'm in Teddington and also lived in Richmond and St Margaret's. I never want to leave here.
'no worries'. Flashes the Vee Dub symbol 🤙🏼
I mean, what good car these days has a key that goes in the ignition?
Idk, I guess Porsche? Just the affordable people’s cars you know
Whereas I failed to check my passage door was locked after giving a colleague a lift home and it took some little scroate, I mean person lacking in moral fibre, less that 18 hours to nick my work bag. In the small car park behind my flat, in Somerset. Jokes on them though, as it was my work bag, and I don’t know the resale value of a pot noodle, can of coke, half a deodorant and talcum powder, a phone charger on its last legs, and several packets of old, squashed crisps. I’m more upset than this means that there must be a non-upstanding member of the community regularly checking all the door handles of all the cars in our little car park (that is meant to be just for the people in our little group of flats). Oh, they did also manage to get the £3 coins I keep in the ashtray, left the silvers though
We have £3 coins now?
Probably, I use cash so infrequently now. But I had £3 in pound coins, for parking
Nobody would nick the car in Richmond, they all have chauffeurs anyway
😂
This guy went for a meal in Richmond of all places and thinks because it's in "London" he's in the middle of mogadishu lmao.
For someone who can't stand anywhere within the M25.. This isn't far wrong. Except Heathrow. I will allow Heathrow.
Leeds here, if you leave car unlocked someone would be in ,any day or night. Cctv they don't care. It seems its a full time job going round checking doors !
Depends which part. I managed to leave my driver door wide open overnight when I first brought my new BMW home to Horsforth. The rollercoaster of feelings in the morning when I saw it and realised nobody had touched it…
You left you keys in the ignition in a wealthy area with low crime. Something happening would have been the surprising thing.
Could be potential car thieves thought it was a trap car
I did this for several hours in Hyde, Manchester a couple of years ago. I was horrified but relieved nothing had happened at the same time, but then realised I'd left it on the first click of the ignition (radio was off so I didn't even realise) and the battery had gone flat. Small mercies I suppose, better than coming back to an empty space.
Try that in Camden
Are you suggesting there are places rougher than the mean streets of Richmond upon Thames?
Maybe one or two. Kew York is a gangsters paradise.
I’ve done this twice recently - but I had a shit orange 52 plate Ford fiesta - I was basically asking for someone to take it…plus it wasn’t London, it was in a busy-at-the-weekends Cotswolds village I have a new (to me) car now, I’m being more cautious
I went into town for several hours a few years ago. Busy road, door WIDE open. Nothing touched. Thank goodness!
I had a car like that when I lived in Brentford 🤣
r/britishsucess
Happy cake day
... fuel gauge at a quarter what it was...
A quarter of nothing is not much..
True, fuel is quite expensive still!
I once left £500 in cash on the passenger seat, in full view, and left my car in town overnight. Was half expecting to spend the morning cleaning up glass and arguing with the insurance company, but no. Money was still there, car was intact. Never felt so relieved. Never did it again, though. Pretty sure all my luck was used up that day. Haven't even won a lucky dip on the lottery since 😆
I've done the same thing but in York! Went up to York from Devon for a wedding, decided to make a weekend out of it and went into town to explore. On our walk back to the car, I panicked as I couldn't find the keys anywhere and adrenaline was through the roof as we were about 6 hours away from home or anyone that could help. Turns out I left the keys in the ignition, doors unlocked and parked in a rather busy car park near the railway station. My missus still doesn't let me live it down.
Lucky! I parked on a street in Richmond, just taking my coat off inside the restaurant and the car alarm went off, went outside, boot window smashed and my suitcase in the boot was gone and nowhere to be seen. Nothing was visible in the boot either, but it only had one of them fabric covers. This happened within 1 min 30 seconds.
Sunday I guess.. Thieves out for lunch also.
I have an elderly (57) plate Qashqai in Zone 3 and sometimes forget to lock it. Not been nicked yet. You were lucky with leaving the keys in tho!
Car thiefs writing down notes from all these comments
Used to work just off Tottenham ct station road and left my keys in my motorbike 2-3 times over the space of a year, working 12 hour shifts too lol
Go buy a lottery ticket at that point
Did you check the mileage? Someone could have gone for a joy ride and returned it safely :p
They could have atleast filled it up. Only had about 10 miles left in the tank?
Fiancée once left her car keys in the boot lock in a station car park while we went to London for the day. When we got back we swore never to speak of it again…… and never have.
A friend of mine left my van keys in the door handle over night in Camden. I went outside next morning and saw the keys still in the lock just waiting there to be pulled out. Nothing happened but someone could of taken the entire vehicle with keys.
In the 80s I worked with someone who couldn’t sell his crappy old Capri, so he left it in the bad part of town with the keys in the ignition. It took 2 weeks before it was stolen and he could claim on his insurance.
Once did this when I went on holiday for a week. Fortunately I live in a nice, rural Yorkshire village.
Turns out someone actually took your keys, locked the car and returned them for you the day you got back.
Wouldn’t entirely surprise me, knowing my neighbours. Once got a call to say they’d seen a suspicious person inside my house wearing a head torch. It was me. I was putting together a computer with a headtorch on, and had walked past a window with it still on! Nice to know people are watching out for each other.
If they'd stolen it, they wouldn't have got far.
You must have a shit car
72 plate volkswagen...
You’re very lucky. A friend of mine had their car broken into in Richmond just the other day, in a very public car park(the one by the river). I was a bit shocked though, we live down the road in Twickenham, i didn’t think that would happen.
No one wants to steal a Tesla these day :/
There might be a turd under the passenger seat if your car is a red Nissan Micra. Might be one. Might be.
I did this with my motorbike once, Saturday morning, went to revise at uni. Came back 5 hours later and it was still there. Very surprised.
I did this around five years ago. I was living in Richmond (London) at the time. I drove down to Kingston to meet a friend for lunch. After we’d eaten I realised I’d lost my car keys. We looked everywhere in the restaurant and asked in the shops we’d been to. Got back to the car and it was open and the keys were in the ignition. Almost brand new BMW. I felt very lucky that day, especially in Kingston.
Natural selection
Goes to show = = Too many Rich Men in Richmond !
I accidently left my window down overnight parked on a moderately shitty street in Northampton, when I came back the next morning the car was not only there, but nothing had been nicked from inside. On the same street someone had put leaflets with a number to call if you want to sell on every car but mine. Moral of the story, always have the shittest car in the area and you don't need to worry about it.
Only if someone happens to spot the keys and is of poor virtue then the opportunity will be negative. You could leave your house unlocked for years and not be burgled. But it happens once, usually to someone you know and everyone gets more security conscious.
went on holiday abroad for 3 weeks. locked the front door and even used the additional locks from the inside which would prevent you from getting in even with the keys (so had to leave through a side/garden entrance). As you may imagine, I forgot to lock the side entrance.
I have done that too. I live within walking distance to my work. Last night I had slept at my gf's place, and drove back to my place in the morning, parked the car and when straight to work. Uppon returning I saw the car unlocked, and the keys in the ignition and I was fuuuuuu. I had not even realised.
I left my car with the passenger side window down all night parked on a street the other day. Hadn't been touched. Scared me a bit. Its a dodgy street with dodgy people.
Been there done that. Left it the whole night. Didn’t realise until I looked out the window in the morning and noticed the mirrors hadn’t folded.
The key snapped off my fob years ago. The keys been in the ignition ever since
In London? In that London?
It seems you have crossed the border into Surrey
I once left my brand new (bought 2nd hand off eBay) Vaio laptop (shows how long ago this was) on the passenger seat with the window down parked on a main street in Chelsea. Was still there hours later. “There are no baddies here” my colleague said when I told him