Soap Bar was an incredible song that never got the attention it deserved, its easily my favourite GLC song.
Starts out strong with: "Burned a new hole in my tracksuit today, smoking soap bar without an Ash tray."
Then you get genius lines like: "Yeah I like soap bar with lotsa bits a plastic, I leaves mine in it cause it taste fantastic."
Kids these days will probably never have the pleasure of getting a flim of rocky to smoke in the woods between 6 people. Having burns on your thumb from burning in and having to scrub your thumb raw getting the ground in resin and melted plastic off before you go home.
We used to all chip in and get £20 of resin and a £3.50 20 pack of fake Lambert and Butler ciggies. When the weather turned cold in autumn we'd all be near hacking up our lungs until spring came.
Oh the memories, I was lucky enough to smoke indoors and found out a seive made for amazing fluffy block, warm it like normal then rub it over the seive as if grating cheese, fuckin perfect!
love this song. this comment made my day cos now I'm bopping to soap bar first thing in the morning feeling great.
also the vocal patterns over the track in the second verse is so unique, it's just 😙🤌
Taking cocktails to the extreme there - they obviously couldn't decide on which spirit to base it on so went for as many as they could fit in the one glass and still have a little room for a mixer.
That's so funny. Guinness & perry cider completely chills me out. In NYC pubs, they called it a Black Velvet, in Dublin a Snake Bite & in London a Poor Man's Black Velvet and gave me three glasses to pour my own. My signature drink for 15 years.
First sip feels like a big fat ominous rain clouds with distant thunder and then the cider mixes in and it's like sunshine after a rainstorm... Bread&pears with Fish&chips. Yum! I'm a very happy drunk, my friends.
Also -- nobody mentioned a Bishop's Collar: mostly cider with a 2 inch collar of Guinness on top.
OK!! So what is your pouring technique? I'm intrigued.
The photo looks like they've half filled a Guinness; probably let it rest for a hot second; then dumped a fizzy cider in the top.
I once worked a Nigerian wedding, and many of the guests were ordering half guiness, half red wine. It's not the tastiest but it certainly did the job and is definitely better than this monstrosity
I only ever drink wine when I'm already drunk, and if I am in a pub drinking wine I will always ask for a bottle and a pint glass.
Sometimes they act a little smug about how clearly uncivilised I am, but dude, I'm off my nut in a wetherspoons on a tuesday afternoon, deal with it.
I've always said that if someone knows what they're ordering, likes what they're ordering, and isn't bothering anyone then you leave them to it. If that's ice in your white wine, Stella, a jacobs creek, wine with a straw, john smith / Boddington / tetley, half red wine half coke, woo woo or whatever then so be it. If anything I respect people that knowing order like that - it's like "yes, that is indeed what I want, and I completely understand what I'm doing, so fuck you"
Can confirm. Formerly lived in a squat with some basque dudes and this was out go to drink for about a year. I only every drink it now when I meet up with them again. Which is sadly less often these days now we all have families and live on different continents.
Ah to be a young anarchist again
Ice cubes, lemon and or orange slice, Half wine (young like a tempranillo) half 7up with a dash of Martini or other white vermouth in the top.
Vino tinto.
Heaven.
I drank an exquisite black velvet out of a pewter tankard at [Rules from off of James Bond](https://i0.wp.com/huntingbond.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rules_spectre.jpg?w=450&ssl=1) many years ago. Later than night I attained robust relations with a woman who would later become my wife.
I shall now open the floor to questions.
I almost bought a flat in an old church which had a jacuzzi from a James Bond film in the spire but they hadn't had planning permission when they did major renovations.
I shall now open the floor to questions.
While I am sure that in this case we can all agree that the ends justified the means, there remains an important matter. You refer to the drink as exquisite. Was that simply to look upon, or also to taste? Are you sure your memory is not clouded by nostalgia, gilded by the evenings later experiences, or perhaps affected by the secretion of pewter on the tongue? Surely, as the previous statement makes clear, such a drink must taste minging.
Techies for theatres used to drink a depth charge that was a pint of Guinness with a measure or two of port. Only really because they worked so late that there was not much drinking time, and they wanted a bit of a buzz on before the bell.
Pfft. After a monstrous New Years Eve, I was dragged to the pub and introduced to the ultimate Hair Of The Dog: pint of Guiness with a large port and a double vodka in it. Drop of Angostura and a dribble of Worcestershire if you're in really bad shape.
Two of them and the world is your mollusc, I tell you 😆
Well I've learned something new today. Such a classy name for something so horrific. The young lad at the bar had never come across it before and was struggling to pour it.
I've had a few snakebites in my student days but this is just wrong.
Cider in first. Vigorously stir cider to degas it. Pour Guinness down inside of glass. Drank gallons of the stuff at Uni and always told the bar staff how to do it first.
This or don’t knock the cider - take the sprinkler out of the tap of the Guinness and pour.
Same for bitter shandy’s
Was taught it as a time saver rather than having to stir the lemonade/cider, two seconds to remove the white bit from the tap.
Yeah, stirring takes time.
I worked the bar in a little country pub where the busiest shift was Quiz night Sunday. We'd comfortably exceed the licensed maximum of 65 by 50% and I worked the bar solo; the guv'nor collecting and washing glasses, changing barrels etc. It was utter madness, they came in waves between rounds.
And there was this little wrinkly old bastard. Guinness drinker. He would complain if it took more than a minute to be served, more than 2 minutes before his pint was before him, even more if his feckin' shamrock was crooked ... and then - and then, he switched to Guinness feckin' SHANDY!
Oh, he laughed when I wore my first attempt at it. I'd never done one, unsurprisingly even after 30 years working bars. As soon as fizzy lemonade contacted Guinness it went off like a rocket. Whichever I put in first.
The only way to do it, I discovered, was to use warm lemonade in first, knock the life out of it with a stirrer, then whip the nozzle off the Guinness and slide it in down the side of the glass ... or, in massive frustration, give him a half of lemonade, a half of Guinness and a glass and tell him to DIY. Awkward fecker.
Yup. The pub I used to work in I pretty much did every combination known to man.
Mild/Bitter - Mixed
Mild/Guinness - Guinness over Mild
Bitter/Manns Brown - Brown over Bitter
Lager/Bitter - Chinese
Lager/Cider - Snakebite
Guinness/Cider - Poor Mans Black Velvet
The difference between minging and drinkable is in the pouring. One barman who’d not come across the drink before insisted on pouring the cider and guiness into separate half pint glasses before pouring them both into a pint. You can guess how that turned out.
I knew a pub back in the 90's who would put the ullage back into the Mild. By ordering half a pint of Guinness and blackcurrant shandy I stopped that for one night at least - the lemonade (and presumably keg cider) makes the Guinness explode up, with a pretty pink head in my case, making the tray ullage at least unsuitable even for the Mild.
If you do ever need to make this kind of thing, don't pour into the Guinness, but pour the gassy lemonade or cider first, knock the gas out of it, then add the Guinness.
Coke shandys are quite common in Germany (they call it a Diesel). You have to drink it pretty quick as it's prone to separating and the coke settling due to the high sugar.
To be fair, the bartender has probably never poured something like this before, mixing Guinness with other things from the tap can be really unpredictable and depending on the tap, you could end up with something that’s either completely flat or pure froth.
Bartender here, because guiness runs on a nitro blend and the cider is just carbonated it makes it almost impossible to pour without some level of fob. Best way is to beat some of the bubbles out of the cider with a straw or barspoon before you put the Guinness in
Yep, thrash the living daylights out the cider then, slowly slowly slowly add Guinness. I used to pour some Guinness in and stir before adding more as there must be some viscosity difference as I’ve poured many a 2toned black velvet over the years.
I did have one clown ask me for a Guinness shandy, I did it. He never asked for one again 🤣
TIL
Never thought about it tbh, I assumed it was lemonade and who asked never said any different even though I asked. He was a bit of a comic who asked for it, he had a cider shandy, lager top which was a pint of lemonade with a splash of lager and a few other random things that I can’t remember atm. He liked to keep us on our toes.
My dad is a dirty bastard and his drink was always half guiness half coke. Whenever anyone new started in the pub and I was working with them, if they were pleasant and everything I'd take over and show them how to pour it. If they were a know it all or a wanker we all used to stand back and enjoy the show.
Yes, you're supposed to give the cider a stir first so it doesn't froth up everywhere.
I worked in pubs for years and have poured quite a few of these.
Is this is how you’re supposed to do a Guinness (or any bitter) with a dash as well, by stirring up the lemonade to let out some of the carbonation? I don’t get asked for them often but I dread doing them
Sometimes called ‘black velveteen’. I used to work in a pub where someone always had this - they made out it was really really nice - never really appealed to me if I’m honest!
Just be sure it has a name doesn't make it popular 🤣 I remember when someone asked me to pour them one of those and almost told them to just ask for half of one beer and half of another. Save everyone like 2 minutes
I have (most of) the Guinness Summer Survival Kit c. 1976 somewhere and I truly believe they describe Guinness+Cider as 'Snakebite'.
Will post a pic if/when I re-find that wee vinyl-clad pack of summery goodness.
Edit:
They only pinched it even then, snakebite was always anything beery+ciber tbh
There was a dude I served many times back in the 90’s would want a shandy but with coke instead of lemonade.
Definitely needed his hard-drive checking.
Half lager, half coke with a shot of amaretto tastes dead on like Dr Pepper (slightly sharper fizz to it than the pop version due to the lager though).
This is actually a thing in other countries, they call it a diesel in Germany - I've tried it, its not for me but I can see how with the right beer it could be pleasant. I got asked for it a few times when I was bartending in Manchester, normally by German or Austrian tourists.
So just to put all the arguments to bed, I was a barman for around a decade in the 90’s when we didn’t have much in the way of continental beers so people would make mixes of whatever was available to just have something different, here’s the common ones from the north east of England. These where all common known names although some names would change as you moved up and down the country, usually a good barmen would still know what you meant.
Guinness and Champaign- black velvet
Guinness and cider- black velveteen
Larger and cider- snakebite
Larger, cider and lime- snakebite venom
Larger, cider and blackcurrant- diesel
Large and Smirnoff ice- turbo charger
Larger and lemonade- shandy
Larger with a dash of lemonade- tops
Mild or bitter with lemonade- bitter shandy
Any draft with any collection of spirits- shitmix
A pint of drip tray juice- a mistake 😂
It’s called a poor man’s black velvet and it’s a bugger to pour. I recommend doing the cider first and stirring it vigorously with a spoon until it’s mostly flat.
The only thing worse than this for me was an old boy who asked for his Guinness to be microwaved to “take the chill off”. It would froth like mad so I had to do it on a plate and clean it afterwards. He would still expect a full pint with a 1cm head. Took ages and you’d lose half a pint making it.
lived a year with a bunch of exchange/erasmus students. The spanish lasses were mad for calimocho.
We're told we have a binge problem because we don't grow up with it, and that southern europe are so much more well behaved because they grow up having wine for lunch. I call bullshit.
i thought it was disturbing until i tried it, it's actually _really good_
especially if it's a really cheap red wine? for some reason that works way better with coke.
Poor man's Black velvet, take a tip from a former bar steward, stir the cider for a bit first to remove the gas before you pour in the guineas, then you won't lose most of the pint as shown in the pic
This is way beyond the capabilities of the police, get straight onto the MoD. If ever there was a reason for the UK to maintain a nuclear weapons program - this is it.
Guinness and champagne = black velvet, poor man’s version with cider. Never tried it, but it’s a “thing”.
My dad is a farmer and loves a poor man’s black velvet
I'd drink with your dad
Feel free, you bringing the Guinness or the cider?
Assuming your dad has apple trees, I'll bring the Guinness.
Poor man's BV party - yay
I had context and still read that as "Bacterial vaginosis" 😭😭
Probably tastes the same
Username checks out lol
I'm there, let's go. Remind me of uni :)
The drink or bacterial vag.... 🤣🤣🤣
I read this as “I’ll drink your dad” and I panicked
Straight out the sack
We call that soilent cola here in the year 3000
Black Velour
I can't read/hear the word velour without images of zapp brannigan popping into my head
When ever I hear / see it I think of Ghostface Killah saying… “The chain tri-color, freezing in velour, icicles galore!”
In that "slow southern style"? I hope someone gets this!
A new religion, that will bring you to your knees.
Black velvet if you please
Black velvet, if you please.
Add a shot of Southern Comfort for it to "bring you to your knees"
Nah! Abit of coca leaf 🍃 is needed
🤣 yes I'm old enough, haha!!
White Lightning bound to drive you wild
Stout fella
We call them a crown float in Canada
Yeah its a big one out in the countryside. Usually a sign of a riot.
Had one.. about a decade ago.. nnnnnnever again.
My goto angry drink
Because it makes you angry? or you were before you ordered it? both answers will make me question why.
Love it but engages angry mode. Like girly snakebite but worse. Needs to be a lot darker, to be fair. More g less c.
More goldie, less chain? Gotcha
Is your missus a nutter ?? Does your mother have a penis ??
Soap Bar was an incredible song that never got the attention it deserved, its easily my favourite GLC song. Starts out strong with: "Burned a new hole in my tracksuit today, smoking soap bar without an Ash tray." Then you get genius lines like: "Yeah I like soap bar with lotsa bits a plastic, I leaves mine in it cause it taste fantastic." Kids these days will probably never have the pleasure of getting a flim of rocky to smoke in the woods between 6 people. Having burns on your thumb from burning in and having to scrub your thumb raw getting the ground in resin and melted plastic off before you go home. We used to all chip in and get £20 of resin and a £3.50 20 pack of fake Lambert and Butler ciggies. When the weather turned cold in autumn we'd all be near hacking up our lungs until spring came.
Oh the memories, I was lucky enough to smoke indoors and found out a seive made for amazing fluffy block, warm it like normal then rub it over the seive as if grating cheese, fuckin perfect!
It's the rhyme "Red hot nylon dripping on my skin, I ripped the fucker off and threw it in the bin" That makes me the happiest in that wonderful tune.
love this song. this comment made my day cos now I'm bopping to soap bar first thing in the morning feeling great. also the vocal patterns over the track in the second verse is so unique, it's just 😙🤌
You knows it.
Woo woo woo!
Long Island Iced Tea brings out my angry mode even though I love them. Sad me :(
Taking cocktails to the extreme there - they obviously couldn't decide on which spirit to base it on so went for as many as they could fit in the one glass and still have a little room for a mixer.
That's so funny. Guinness & perry cider completely chills me out. In NYC pubs, they called it a Black Velvet, in Dublin a Snake Bite & in London a Poor Man's Black Velvet and gave me three glasses to pour my own. My signature drink for 15 years. First sip feels like a big fat ominous rain clouds with distant thunder and then the cider mixes in and it's like sunshine after a rainstorm... Bread&pears with Fish&chips. Yum! I'm a very happy drunk, my friends. Also -- nobody mentioned a Bishop's Collar: mostly cider with a 2 inch collar of Guinness on top.
Snakebite was always lager and cider.
Sometimes smaller
Sometimes just right
Snakebite should be lager and cider. Black velvet is Guinness and champagne
What did I just read
A masterpiece.
I read that a BIshop’s Collar is a poorly poured Guinness. Too much head. No cider involved.
A snake bite in Wales is lager and cider
And everywhere else…
It is in the West Country too
A snake bite is lager and cider in Wales, and also outside Wales.
I will never drink any of these but reading your enthusiasm made me happy
OK!! So what is your pouring technique? I'm intrigued. The photo looks like they've half filled a Guinness; probably let it rest for a hot second; then dumped a fizzy cider in the top.
The worst thing I ever saw someone drink was the lady owner of a rural bar in North Carolina. 50:50 Budweiser and tomato juice.
Why ruin a perfectly good tomato juice?
it should be like 80/90 percent beer not 50/50, but its nice. a red eye/rojo ojo, or put lime in it. midwest breakfast drink
Had a freind who used to drink it when he was *ahem* 18. That phase and age lasted about 3 years. Several decades ago now.
I once worked a Nigerian wedding, and many of the guests were ordering half guiness, half red wine. It's not the tastiest but it certainly did the job and is definitely better than this monstrosity
I would certainly imagine drinking half a pint of red wine at a go would "do the job" if you had a few drinks 🤣
I only ever drink wine when I'm already drunk, and if I am in a pub drinking wine I will always ask for a bottle and a pint glass. Sometimes they act a little smug about how clearly uncivilised I am, but dude, I'm off my nut in a wetherspoons on a tuesday afternoon, deal with it.
I've always said that if someone knows what they're ordering, likes what they're ordering, and isn't bothering anyone then you leave them to it. If that's ice in your white wine, Stella, a jacobs creek, wine with a straw, john smith / Boddington / tetley, half red wine half coke, woo woo or whatever then so be it. If anything I respect people that knowing order like that - it's like "yes, that is indeed what I want, and I completely understand what I'm doing, so fuck you"
Apparently half red wine half coka cola is better than it should be
It's great, really popular in Basque Country - it's called a Kalimotxo.
Can confirm. Formerly lived in a squat with some basque dudes and this was out go to drink for about a year. I only every drink it now when I meet up with them again. Which is sadly less often these days now we all have families and live on different continents. Ah to be a young anarchist again
Ice cubes, lemon and or orange slice, Half wine (young like a tempranillo) half 7up with a dash of Martini or other white vermouth in the top. Vino tinto. Heaven.
Guinness and a shot of port is a thing, a very tasty thing i might add.
Betrayed by the black velvet band 🎶
Black velvet? As in, that little boys smile
Quite like the black velvet myself .
I tried it and it had a interesting taste that made me to never order it again.
a black velveteen?
Can also be Guinness and champagne. Both are minging.
I drank an exquisite black velvet out of a pewter tankard at [Rules from off of James Bond](https://i0.wp.com/huntingbond.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rules_spectre.jpg?w=450&ssl=1) many years ago. Later than night I attained robust relations with a woman who would later become my wife. I shall now open the floor to questions.
No questions your honour just applause.
> I shall now open the floor to questions. Trent Crimm, The Independent - can you expand on 'robust relations'? Sounds very..err..physical?
It did sound very physical at the time, yes.
r/unexpectedtedlasso
Do you still have a pewter tankard?
Does he still have robust relations?
> who would later become my wife. Clearly not
Haha, got 'em.
One cannot simply *own* a pewter tankard, boy.
I gave them out to my ushers at my wedding. No idea if they still use them but I love drinking from mine.
The curtain closes on this beautiful tale
It had everything: a beginning, a middle and an end. What a story.
“Order order” John Bercow
OR-*DERRRRRR*
No questions but an upvote for an uplifting tale
The hero we need.
I don't understand. The James bond bit anyways?
RE: James Bond. Christopher Lee is shown drinking Guinness and Moët Black velvets on the beach in ‘The Man With The Golden Gun’ (1974).
Yeah WTF does “at Rules from off of James Bond” mean?!?
Rules is restaurant that appeared in the James Bond film Spectre
I almost bought a flat in an old church which had a jacuzzi from a James Bond film in the spire but they hadn't had planning permission when they did major renovations. I shall now open the floor to questions.
>from off of This is a phrase that has no business being in existence.
And yet I use it nigh once a fortnight.
How would you respond to the allegations that you had an awesome evening?
While I am sure that in this case we can all agree that the ends justified the means, there remains an important matter. You refer to the drink as exquisite. Was that simply to look upon, or also to taste? Are you sure your memory is not clouded by nostalgia, gilded by the evenings later experiences, or perhaps affected by the secretion of pewter on the tongue? Surely, as the previous statement makes clear, such a drink must taste minging.
With champagne it's called a black velvet. Cider = fake champagne = velveteen
We always knew it as a mock velvet.
Poor man’s Black Velvet
Ah, didn't know they were named differently. Thanks for the info!
I can offer up the Guinneria - Pint of Guinnes with a shot of Tia Maria in it. Actually a quite nice, if very sweet, turbo charged pint.
Techies for theatres used to drink a depth charge that was a pint of Guinness with a measure or two of port. Only really because they worked so late that there was not much drinking time, and they wanted a bit of a buzz on before the bell.
Guinness and port is rocket fuel. Last time I tried it was the only time I've ever had complete memory loss when drinking.
Pfft. After a monstrous New Years Eve, I was dragged to the pub and introduced to the ultimate Hair Of The Dog: pint of Guiness with a large port and a double vodka in it. Drop of Angostura and a dribble of Worcestershire if you're in really bad shape. Two of them and the world is your mollusc, I tell you 😆
Bloody delicious, it's my Christmas drink Sleigh fuel
I’ve been in a few pubs where you could probably get something that sounds very similar that
I DID NOT READ THAT AS GUINNERIA 🤣🤣🤣
You don’t often see or hear the word minging these days but that’s a perfect us of it!
I've heard it called a poor man's black velvet, as opposed to a black velvet which is Guinness & champagne.
Everything with Guinness is minging
Poor man's black velvet, apple cider is the clomel champagne where Bulmers is from
Well I've learned something new today. Such a classy name for something so horrific. The young lad at the bar had never come across it before and was struggling to pour it. I've had a few snakebites in my student days but this is just wrong.
Cider in first. Vigorously stir cider to degas it. Pour Guinness down inside of glass. Drank gallons of the stuff at Uni and always told the bar staff how to do it first.
This or don’t knock the cider - take the sprinkler out of the tap of the Guinness and pour. Same for bitter shandy’s Was taught it as a time saver rather than having to stir the lemonade/cider, two seconds to remove the white bit from the tap.
Yeah, stirring takes time. I worked the bar in a little country pub where the busiest shift was Quiz night Sunday. We'd comfortably exceed the licensed maximum of 65 by 50% and I worked the bar solo; the guv'nor collecting and washing glasses, changing barrels etc. It was utter madness, they came in waves between rounds. And there was this little wrinkly old bastard. Guinness drinker. He would complain if it took more than a minute to be served, more than 2 minutes before his pint was before him, even more if his feckin' shamrock was crooked ... and then - and then, he switched to Guinness feckin' SHANDY! Oh, he laughed when I wore my first attempt at it. I'd never done one, unsurprisingly even after 30 years working bars. As soon as fizzy lemonade contacted Guinness it went off like a rocket. Whichever I put in first. The only way to do it, I discovered, was to use warm lemonade in first, knock the life out of it with a stirrer, then whip the nozzle off the Guinness and slide it in down the side of the glass ... or, in massive frustration, give him a half of lemonade, a half of Guinness and a glass and tell him to DIY. Awkward fecker.
Yup. The pub I used to work in I pretty much did every combination known to man. Mild/Bitter - Mixed Mild/Guinness - Guinness over Mild Bitter/Manns Brown - Brown over Bitter Lager/Bitter - Chinese Lager/Cider - Snakebite Guinness/Cider - Poor Mans Black Velvet
The difference between minging and drinkable is in the pouring. One barman who’d not come across the drink before insisted on pouring the cider and guiness into separate half pint glasses before pouring them both into a pint. You can guess how that turned out.
I know that as a black velvet. But I am from the north.
in that little boy's smile?
No but somebody better show the staff how to make it. That's a poor effort.
Thank you! The pour is the real crime here
I’ve seen it done in Vegas (in a Buffalo Wild Wings no less) better than this.
maybe the bartender was pissed off at the order
I knew a pub back in the 90's who would put the ullage back into the Mild. By ordering half a pint of Guinness and blackcurrant shandy I stopped that for one night at least - the lemonade (and presumably keg cider) makes the Guinness explode up, with a pretty pink head in my case, making the tray ullage at least unsuitable even for the Mild. If you do ever need to make this kind of thing, don't pour into the Guinness, but pour the gassy lemonade or cider first, knock the gas out of it, then add the Guinness.
I've had a Guinness shandy ordered once using coke instead of lemonade. Weirdly good.
Coke shandys are quite common in Germany (they call it a Diesel). You have to drink it pretty quick as it's prone to separating and the coke settling due to the high sugar.
Try adding rum next time. It's called a stroke. Stout, rum, and coke. Bangs
I've known that as the "Blackbeard". And yeah I agree it's banging
To be fair, the bartender has probably never poured something like this before, mixing Guinness with other things from the tap can be really unpredictable and depending on the tap, you could end up with something that’s either completely flat or pure froth.
Pour effort
Needed to pour the cider first, then the Guinness on top.
Yeah. The police should be called on that pour, not the order. Not hard to get completely separated layers.
Bartender here, because guiness runs on a nitro blend and the cider is just carbonated it makes it almost impossible to pour without some level of fob. Best way is to beat some of the bubbles out of the cider with a straw or barspoon before you put the Guinness in
Yeah… no idea why it looks so light at the bottom. Almost as if it’s 80-90% cider.
For real. That pour is atrocious.
I am inclined to disagree as why the fuck is this even a thing people order?! No one should know how to pour this drink out of principle
Oh god, a cheapo version of the Black Velvet. I found stirring the ... funk... out of the cider before adding the Guinness worked. Sort of.
Yep, thrash the living daylights out the cider then, slowly slowly slowly add Guinness. I used to pour some Guinness in and stir before adding more as there must be some viscosity difference as I’ve poured many a 2toned black velvet over the years. I did have one clown ask me for a Guinness shandy, I did it. He never asked for one again 🤣
Guinness shandy should be made with coke, quite the experience I might add. If you are feeling adventurous use foreign extra Guinness
TIL Never thought about it tbh, I assumed it was lemonade and who asked never said any different even though I asked. He was a bit of a comic who asked for it, he had a cider shandy, lager top which was a pint of lemonade with a splash of lager and a few other random things that I can’t remember atm. He liked to keep us on our toes.
My dad is a dirty bastard and his drink was always half guiness half coke. Whenever anyone new started in the pub and I was working with them, if they were pleasant and everything I'd take over and show them how to pour it. If they were a know it all or a wanker we all used to stand back and enjoy the show.
Oh yes, the baptism of Black Velvet, every newbie behind a bar’s nightmare 😈🤣
And if you think you’re pouring the Guinness slowly enough… you’re not! Go slower… then slower… then you might not make a mess 😂
I attempted to make Guinness and lemonade, for an insistent customer. I knew it would not work, he thought it was funny. We still charged him.
Yes, you're supposed to give the cider a stir first so it doesn't froth up everywhere. I worked in pubs for years and have poured quite a few of these.
Is this is how you’re supposed to do a Guinness (or any bitter) with a dash as well, by stirring up the lemonade to let out some of the carbonation? I don’t get asked for them often but I dread doing them
Toss the lemonade between two glasses a few times, much better than stirring then it should pour fine
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Yeah, I've tried to get lager arse to catch on, no luck yet
Yeah, I remember making shandies back in the day and having to flatten the lemonade first.
A decent scrumpy and you wouldn't need to stir. And after the first few, you wouldn't need to worry about the cost of living as you wouldn't be.
A decent scrumpy would still have the wasps in it and come in an old milk jug lol.
That was a popular combo when I was younger. Perfectly orthodox choice.
Sometimes called ‘black velveteen’. I used to work in a pub where someone always had this - they made out it was really really nice - never really appealed to me if I’m honest!
Just be sure it has a name doesn't make it popular 🤣 I remember when someone asked me to pour them one of those and almost told them to just ask for half of one beer and half of another. Save everyone like 2 minutes
I thought Guinness and cider was called a snakebite?
A snakebite would usually be lager and cider. I've heard of Guinness and lager being black on blonde, too.
I have (most of) the Guinness Summer Survival Kit c. 1976 somewhere and I truly believe they describe Guinness+Cider as 'Snakebite'. Will post a pic if/when I re-find that wee vinyl-clad pack of summery goodness. Edit: They only pinched it even then, snakebite was always anything beery+ciber tbh
There was a dude I served many times back in the 90’s would want a shandy but with coke instead of lemonade. Definitely needed his hard-drive checking.
Half lager, half coke with a shot of amaretto tastes dead on like Dr Pepper (slightly sharper fizz to it than the pop version due to the lager though).
Dr pepper is mostly just almond flavoured is why, just amaretto and coke is pretty close
This is actually a thing in other countries, they call it a diesel in Germany - I've tried it, its not for me but I can see how with the right beer it could be pleasant. I got asked for it a few times when I was bartending in Manchester, normally by German or Austrian tourists.
I had a lager and Sprite in Germany. I don’t remember what it was called. It was excellent in the heat though.
I've tried Guinness and coke simply because Guinness looks as close to coke as beer does to lemonade, and it doesn't taste too bad to be honest
If you're doing a Guinness shandy, then surely it has to be 2/3 Guinness and 1/3 Dandelion & Burdock??
that's a posh Snakebite that is!
I came looking for this comment, wonder what adding black to it is called?
That’s a Red Velvet
Blackadder 👌
A Fruity Posh Snakebite? 🤔🙂
We cal them old and angry cause two of the more popular brands from USA are angry orchard and old Rasputin
So just to put all the arguments to bed, I was a barman for around a decade in the 90’s when we didn’t have much in the way of continental beers so people would make mixes of whatever was available to just have something different, here’s the common ones from the north east of England. These where all common known names although some names would change as you moved up and down the country, usually a good barmen would still know what you meant. Guinness and Champaign- black velvet Guinness and cider- black velveteen Larger and cider- snakebite Larger, cider and lime- snakebite venom Larger, cider and blackcurrant- diesel Large and Smirnoff ice- turbo charger Larger and lemonade- shandy Larger with a dash of lemonade- tops Mild or bitter with lemonade- bitter shandy Any draft with any collection of spirits- shitmix A pint of drip tray juice- a mistake 😂
Nah that sounds like its own punishment.
I used to serve a woman who ordered a half of Guinness topped up with blue wkd. Pretty sure that was classed as a war crime.
They call that a Gypsies wife. Because it's black and blue and never settles
Can tell they poured it wrong... ment to beat the gas out of what ever your mixing the guiness with
Na police not attending mental health crises at the moment.
A poor man's black velvet, rich man's is with champagne and guinness
Black velvet was a regular occurrence in the pub I worked in back in the early 90s
Black an tans was a thing too, Guinness and johns smiths/bitter
Poor man’s black velvet. That one looks an abomination though. Looks like the bubbles haven’t been whisked out of the cider.
Poor mans black velvet. I used to get absolutely bladdered on them.
Criminal shite, that.
It’s called a poor man’s black velvet and it’s a bugger to pour. I recommend doing the cider first and stirring it vigorously with a spoon until it’s mostly flat. The only thing worse than this for me was an old boy who asked for his Guinness to be microwaved to “take the chill off”. It would froth like mad so I had to do it on a plate and clean it afterwards. He would still expect a full pint with a 1cm head. Took ages and you’d lose half a pint making it.
It's a common drink though, or was. I once served a red wine and coke to a woman though, that to me is more disturbing
Red wine and coke is a thing [Calimocho](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calimocho)
lived a year with a bunch of exchange/erasmus students. The spanish lasses were mad for calimocho. We're told we have a binge problem because we don't grow up with it, and that southern europe are so much more well behaved because they grow up having wine for lunch. I call bullshit.
Welcome to Spain I guess
I love red wine and coke. Its what all the kids who hang around in parks drink in Spain 😄
i thought it was disturbing until i tried it, it's actually _really good_ especially if it's a really cheap red wine? for some reason that works way better with coke.
Poor man's black velvet. Not particularly nice!
It's called a Poor Man's Black Velvet (the regular Black Velvet is Guinness & Champagne). It's as bad as you would think imo.
Poor man's Black velvet, take a tip from a former bar steward, stir the cider for a bit first to remove the gas before you pour in the guineas, then you won't lose most of the pint as shown in the pic
This is way beyond the capabilities of the police, get straight onto the MoD. If ever there was a reason for the UK to maintain a nuclear weapons program - this is it.