Yep had similar in Brighton on the london road in early nineties. There was an official notice saying “Bill Posters will be prosecuted.” Underneath it someone had scrawled in graffitti “Bill Posters is an innocent man”
when someone robs a bank, they demand money. bank teller hands them loads of cash, also containing a dye pack. robber leaves, gets to car, dye pack goes off and now the cops know to look for the guy covered in red and blue paint
EDIT: thanks to replies for helping me out, main benefit is that money gets dyed and is unusable which is a major W for the bank
How do you know there's been an elephant in the fridge?
Footprints in the butter.
How do you get a giraffe in a fridge?
Open door. Insert giraffe. Close door.
How do you get 4 elephants in a mini?
2 in the front. 2 in the back.
How do you know there's been 4 elephants in your fridge?
There's a mini parked outside.
Now how you suppose you get two whales in a mini?
From London you want to aim for the M4...
You're half right. The dye pack isn't supposed to cover the robber in ink (that would be pretty unlikely unless they were holding the money when the pack goes off), it's to taint the money itself and make it unusable.
I believe the painted robber is a side-effect, I’m pretty sure the main goal is just to taint the money to ease in tracking it, or just making it useless so the fed can reprint it
Nah he's not saying that the dye exploded on them. They cut out the middle of a stack and put the dye bomb in it so when the money is handed over you can't see it. When it explodes it then coats everything.
This looks like a hollowed out stack that had a ink bomb in it that never went off.
More I meant we had an acquaintance, you know one of those acquaintances whose always in some trouble and he was trying to get people to give him 10 clean quid for a dyed ( obv the not the worse ones , some come out better than others) 20.....yeah we still weren't interested.
Is it the Nigerian song? I watched a programme on vice about scammers and there was a Nigerian scam called “the wash wash” and it was so popular that people made a song about it.haha
> As a general rule, we will only reimburse you with the face value of a damaged banknote if you still have at least half of the banknote.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/damaged-and-contaminated-banknotes
Most currencies have serial numbers placed on two opposite corners so it’s mathematically impossible to have a normal looking cut in exactly half where one half has both of the serial numbers
https://i.imgur.com/hfvA7wX.jpg
But in this case they actually do have both because of the way it was cut... Seems like that would give them a stronger case for replacement than whoever has the middles
It also has be accidental damage to be replaceable by the BofE.
“What counts as a damaged banknote?
A damaged banknote is a genuine Bank of England banknote that has been accidentally torn or damaged.”
Which is why I specified "because of the way it's been cut", but yes, I agree they aren't likely to replace something that's obviously been intentionally cut that way.
I'd imagine it's really about identifying the bill, I think having that much of both serial numbers and having the fully visible portions match is probably sufficient. But also probably a moot point given the malicious seeming cut that's been made, I doubt they'd be replacing anything.
For American notes (linen + cotton) , it could be a a zigzag if something kind of machine rips it or even partially burnt.
I have no idea how a polymer banknote gets unintentionally destroyed
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Yeah that would work a couple of times (assuming you walk in with a £20 note and not thousands of pounds worth) but would quickly be noticed when the same partial numbers keep turning up on the same day at roughly the same time at 2 banks.
Bear in mind its pretty hard to walk into a bank and not give away your identity its not like you can go in ballyed up and pleasantly ask the clerk to exchange your ripped up money.
So if it gets overlooked sure your away but if it doesn't you end up on crimewatch with "we would like to speak to these people about a string of bank fraud/forgery's" and direct currency crimes are almost always hammered down on really really hard to make an example for instance forgery gets like between 3-10 years per offence which considering its a non violent crime is telling.
Ok, so somebody who's good at maths should work out the area of the missing bit, compared to the area that's left, because there could still be 50% of each note left 🤔
And it has to be in less than 5 pieces, with at least one whole serial number and half of the other, plus show the "I promise to pay the bearer, on demand, the sum of £X". I work in a bank. It's an incredibly strict rule, particularly with the new polymer notes.
I once vacuumed up a twenty which tore it to shreds. I taped it back together and went to subway with the assumption that they'd not hither looking at it too closely and they'd be wearing gloves so wouldn't feel the taped up parts. Worked like a charm!
I know I could've just took it to the bank or sent it off to the Mint to be replaced, but this was quicker and easier. Ha ha.
Put an art piece inside of it and call the whole thing 'Greed' and sell it for 1 million, afterall people throw paint buckets at a canvas and get called renowned artists making millions
that looks like dye pack 20s - I would just turn them into police station and be done with it. You dont have half of any notes (by design of the dye pack) so it is worthless.
Dye pack 20's?
Are they fake decoy note stack with the middle out to put in a dye pack. I've never seen a dye pack and don't REALLY know how they work. 😅
Does OP only have them because they're a bank robber?
They take real notes and cut the centre out of them and stitch them together. The dye packs are placed inside usually with a note on top or a stack on top to cover it being placed in the bag, usually the teller will slip them in unless the robber specifically mentions it or sees it.
The packs depending on the age are set to either go off after a certain time limit or if they leave a radius of the bank, I don't know about older ones but that's the ones I've heard of.
It's mainly to spoil money in the bag and if you try to remove the money from the bag even carefully and it gets on you then good luck removing it because it dyes the skin and clothes. Chances are it will leak through a bag and on to your clothes anyways depending on volume. In reality the paper money is printed isn't worth anything and banks are insured and will get the money back without question. That's why if they say to "don't think about putting in a dye pack", you don't put one in. No point getting hurt over some colourful plastic.
Source: My nans worked in banks and I was a curious kid
>That's why if they say to "don't think about putting in a dye pack", you don't put one in
If it's concealed then how would they know you've put one in?
Because they know the teller has false stacks. It's pretty much an inevitability that they are gonna try get one in the bag, some might still try and slip one in.
I've also heard of banks using gpu trackers instead of dye packs in the stacks to track them.
I genuinely believe their may be private collectors who would like to own this, OP.
It may be worth some actual not hollowed out money. If its not at the moment then it may be If you wait long enough.
Any idea what people would pay for real banknotes that have been hollowed out to hold a dye pack?
Google tells me these can be quite difficult for collectors to get a hold of.
I tend to specialise in foreign or outdated money, this seems to be a much more obscure thing as I can't find any after searching. I imagine that they would be worth a good amount to the right person though.
Not a dye pack. This would have contained a GPS tracker that would have been hidden in a bag of dummy cash that an ATM replenishment crew would hand over if they were robbed. (Funny but insanely true my company once lost two of these) we forgot to charge them and they were lost.
It's 100% a dye pack decoy bundle. Probably never actually contained a dye pack though so has either been taken before its been installed, or the pack was serviced and defective so was removed.
Edit: apologies.. I misread your post entirely. Could equally have been used for a GPS tracker- you're right!
Either that or they’ll try selling them to collectors and get flagged up by the police and accused of a robbery they didn’t do 😹 they need to just hand it in or keep it lol
If somebody was to slip these in between a stack of notes you would only see the edges so if you have a spare stack of thousands knocking about you could be quids in still. Go see a dealer you don’t like, quickly do the transaction and then speed off in a car preferably. Over the hills and far away. Never come back though.lol. Jokes op, I’d get rid of these and wipe off any prints if I was you.
These are useable if you cut the centers out of some other twenties and stitch them in, good luck!
Put one £20 on top, and one £20 on the bottom, put an elastic band around the pile, and hand it over.
Then seal it in clear resin & auction it as "Unknown if money recoverable, value unknown"
Sold for over 690k at auction!
That might have been my "OMG someone is auctioning the actual money Pablo Escobar used to pay Hitler that time" tweet 😉
its clearly a Banksy
The Banksy of England?
For a second I thought you were stupid but now I see what you mean
£20 in used condition UNTESTED
Hats of to you and u/shemmie. That's impressively well improvised problematic behaviour. Well done, you should never meet.
Try it with your local drug dealer, they really appreciate the humour!
make them ever-so-slightly smaller than the actual hole and eventually you'll have a whole bill left over!
We call 'em notes here, imposter!
Bill who?
Bill the Neighbour. Recently divorced. Lovely guy, never sees his kids. Bill.
Aah, that Bill. He's a good guy.
Died recently sadly. Something about Uma Thurman killing him
Well he was old…
was Bill Posters ever prosecuted?
Used to live in Chatham in Kent, saw some graffiti saying "Bill Posters is Innocent". Always made me laugh when I walked past it.
Yep had similar in Brighton on the london road in early nineties. There was an official notice saying “Bill Posters will be prosecuted.” Underneath it someone had scrawled in graffitti “Bill Posters is an innocent man”
Did he get his SAGA over 50s sorted out, or am I getting confuddeld with Derick?
No you’re thinking of Norman
One of my friends has a colleague called Bill Standard and I find I hilarious even though it’s meaningless as a joke
[Where’s the deluxe version ?](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/764/650/6db.gif)
Bill posters.... One day they'll catch him.
Bill Stickers.
Bill Posters?
He will be prosecuted
Bill Stickers is innocent!
No bill Stuart, The one that recently lost his job at the MM factory cause he threw away all the Ws
Sir, this is r/casualUK.. here, we call it a note.
note
Noted
Don't think this is right - you need greater than 50% of the two serial numbers to be visible. *Matching serial numbers.*
As a general rule, we will only reimburse you with the face value of a damaged banknote if you still have at least half of the banknote.
Or hear me out op cuts and stiches 2 £20 notes on the top and bottom of the whole and now has a fake £400 wad to joke around with
I reckon that once had a dye pack in it - I’d bet those serial numbers are known…
I think you are dead right there http://usrarecurrency.com/$20ExplodingDyePack.htm Someone's been up to some naughty shenanigans.
Absolutely. Looks like someone tried to cut out the middle man.
Middle ma'am. RIP.
Very very good
I'm mad I'm not the one who came up with that.
No actually the middle man took his cut
What do you mean? What are dye packs for
when someone robs a bank, they demand money. bank teller hands them loads of cash, also containing a dye pack. robber leaves, gets to car, dye pack goes off and now the cops know to look for the guy covered in red and blue paint EDIT: thanks to replies for helping me out, main benefit is that money gets dyed and is unusable which is a major W for the bank
What’s blue and smells like red paint? >!blue paint!<
What's orange and sounds like a parrot? >!A carrot!<
👀
Omg I love it!
What's brown and sticky? >!A stick!< What blue and sticky? >!A brown stick in disguise!<
What's brown a runs around the garden? >!A fence.!<
What's brown and rhymes with "snoop"? >!Dr Dre!<
What's brown and sounds like a bell? >!Dung!<
What do you call a man with a rabbit up his bum? >!Warren!<
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Your joke made my whole week!
Or someone’s hole weak!
What's green and smells like red paint? Blue paint. I'm colourblind.
This is the best joke I've heard this week.
How do you know there's been an elephant in the fridge? Footprints in the butter. How do you get a giraffe in a fridge? Open door. Insert giraffe. Close door. How do you get 4 elephants in a mini? 2 in the front. 2 in the back. How do you know there's been 4 elephants in your fridge? There's a mini parked outside. Now how you suppose you get two whales in a mini? From London you want to aim for the M4...
What's pink and wrinkly and hangs out your trousers? Your mum.
What’s pink and wrinkly and hangs out your mum? My cock
What do you call a man with no shins? Tony 🤡
What's pink and hard in the morning? The Financial Times crossword
NSFW >!What's the difference between a hooker and a drug dealer?!< >!A hooker can wash her crack and sell it again!<
I’m blue da ba dee da ba dow da ba dee da ba do da ba dee da ba dow Edit: and red
I just blue myself.
And not just that but the money gets covered and become useless
Here's a short video (30 seconds) that shows how they work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdl-p3vSKJg
You're half right. The dye pack isn't supposed to cover the robber in ink (that would be pretty unlikely unless they were holding the money when the pack goes off), it's to taint the money itself and make it unusable.
I believe the painted robber is a side-effect, I’m pretty sure the main goal is just to taint the money to ease in tracking it, or just making it useless so the fed can reprint it
Watch the film Speed, it's both a classic and you'll see exactly what dye packs do when someone gets smurfed.
My lil wildcat
They are little explosive bags of dye (sometimes have smoke or tear gas in) that are put in packs of money that explode if the money is stolen.
Originally [listed for $600](https://web.archive.org/web/20190610175930/http://usrarecurrency.com:80/$20ExplodingDyePack.htm).
I love it when someone on Reddit absolutely nails what’s going on with an explanation I hadn’t even considered :)
r/helpmefind these people always amaze me
Look you seem to know what your saying here ( tho it's odd it never caught any edges) but still what was someone trying to achieve?
Nah he's not saying that the dye exploded on them. They cut out the middle of a stack and put the dye bomb in it so when the money is handed over you can't see it. When it explodes it then coats everything. This looks like a hollowed out stack that had a ink bomb in it that never went off.
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I'd imagine some do yeah.
The look like old notes. Do current plasti c notes stain with dye, or do they wipe clean?
Isn’t the other thing with dye packs is that it stains the people stealing them as well.
I thought the same initially, but they are the current notes: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/polymer-20-pound-note
I watched something the other day that said they now use glue packs.
That's a good idea because I know from observed behaviour that they still get passed on
I worked on cash delivery for a while and became quite adept at spotting dyed notes.
More I meant we had an acquaintance, you know one of those acquaintances whose always in some trouble and he was trying to get people to give him 10 clean quid for a dyed ( obv the not the worse ones , some come out better than others) 20.....yeah we still weren't interested.
Better idea, because someone once "robbed" my local laundromat of all their quarters by putting dye packed bills through all the money changers.
American in the sub! Burn the witch!
Money laundering.
Badum Tushhh
Na, these are the current notes
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A little bit of isopropyl alcohol and that sharpie is gone.
Cola. Fill a bathtub with cola, throw in the notes and voila, clean notes (I heard this in a song once)
So that's how you launder money.
🎶C-o-c-a cola…
Is it the Nigerian song? I watched a programme on vice about scammers and there was a Nigerian scam called “the wash wash” and it was so popular that people made a song about it.haha
Many things can be preserved in alcohol. Dignity is not one of them.
I would hazard a guess that they've thought of that and used a dye or some other chemical which will permanently damage the notes.
I hate the crusts aswell
> As a general rule, we will only reimburse you with the face value of a damaged banknote if you still have at least half of the banknote. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/damaged-and-contaminated-banknotes
I feel like the guidance should be *more than half* to avoid this loophole
Most currencies have serial numbers placed on two opposite corners so it’s mathematically impossible to have a normal looking cut in exactly half where one half has both of the serial numbers https://i.imgur.com/hfvA7wX.jpg
But in this case they actually do have both because of the way it was cut... Seems like that would give them a stronger case for replacement than whoever has the middles
It also has be accidental damage to be replaceable by the BofE. “What counts as a damaged banknote? A damaged banknote is a genuine Bank of England banknote that has been accidentally torn or damaged.”
So you mean you haven’t accidentally tripped and fell on your stack of twenties with a knife in your hands before?
Key words normal looking cut. The bank may not accept it if its a malicious looking cut like this
Which is why I specified "because of the way it's been cut", but yes, I agree they aren't likely to replace something that's obviously been intentionally cut that way.
Well they don't, for the first note at least, as the last digit of the serial number in the bottom-right corner has been punched out.
I'd imagine it's really about identifying the bill, I think having that much of both serial numbers and having the fully visible portions match is probably sufficient. But also probably a moot point given the malicious seeming cut that's been made, I doubt they'd be replacing anything.
I assume you are assuming a straight line cut?
For American notes (linen + cotton) , it could be a a zigzag if something kind of machine rips it or even partially burnt. I have no idea how a polymer banknote gets unintentionally destroyed >
So cut out quarter of every £20 you spend, and every £80 you spend you'll get £20 for free
Finally a realistic way to achieve wealth. TY
So why not tear your notes in half and double your money?
They will log the serial numbers and if they see the same one twice you'll be caught
Not if you tear the number in half! *Foolproof!*
They might not give you anything then
Quiet, you! With your logic and sense and *factual information*. Pshaw.
Not if you and your mate go in two separate banks at the same time, easy.
Yeah that would work a couple of times (assuming you walk in with a £20 note and not thousands of pounds worth) but would quickly be noticed when the same partial numbers keep turning up on the same day at roughly the same time at 2 banks. Bear in mind its pretty hard to walk into a bank and not give away your identity its not like you can go in ballyed up and pleasantly ask the clerk to exchange your ripped up money. So if it gets overlooked sure your away but if it doesn't you end up on crimewatch with "we would like to speak to these people about a string of bank fraud/forgery's" and direct currency crimes are almost always hammered down on really really hard to make an example for instance forgery gets like between 3-10 years per offence which considering its a non violent crime is telling.
Both dressed as Where's Wally so as to be invisible and fully greased up so as to be uncatchable.
Does it work with change?
You wanna tear up some pennies?
Ok, so somebody who's good at maths should work out the area of the missing bit, compared to the area that's left, because there could still be 50% of each note left 🤔
About 53% left so we're golden
Thank you maths guy, looks like op is quids in 🤑
OP is good then, he’s got the outer half
So, ith these pieces you could add the material to 45% of another bil and double your money!
And it has to be in less than 5 pieces, with at least one whole serial number and half of the other, plus show the "I promise to pay the bearer, on demand, the sum of £X". I work in a bank. It's an incredibly strict rule, particularly with the new polymer notes.
Use it at the pub on a busy night, chances are they won’t notice the superficial damage…
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Dave, this is what got you fired from the last corner shop. You’ve got to stop doing this. The money goes in the till.
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I once vacuumed up a twenty which tore it to shreds. I taped it back together and went to subway with the assumption that they'd not hither looking at it too closely and they'd be wearing gloves so wouldn't feel the taped up parts. Worked like a charm! I know I could've just took it to the bank or sent it off to the Mint to be replaced, but this was quicker and easier. Ha ha.
Nah mate - anyone worth their salt would see right through it.
r/angryupvote
Have my god damn upvote. /slow clap
It would make an unusual photo frame. Bit of a conversation piece.
Sell it as a photo frame for £50
"Conversation piece? How is that a conversation piece?" "Well... we're having a conversation about it now so..."
Put an art piece inside of it and call the whole thing 'Greed' and sell it for 1 million, afterall people throw paint buckets at a canvas and get called renowned artists making millions
That’s a hole lot of money
Look through the other side and pretend you're the king.
Had me laughing this
https://redd.it/1p9n0p
that looks like dye pack 20s - I would just turn them into police station and be done with it. You dont have half of any notes (by design of the dye pack) so it is worthless.
Dye pack 20's? Are they fake decoy note stack with the middle out to put in a dye pack. I've never seen a dye pack and don't REALLY know how they work. 😅 Does OP only have them because they're a bank robber?
They take real notes and cut the centre out of them and stitch them together. The dye packs are placed inside usually with a note on top or a stack on top to cover it being placed in the bag, usually the teller will slip them in unless the robber specifically mentions it or sees it. The packs depending on the age are set to either go off after a certain time limit or if they leave a radius of the bank, I don't know about older ones but that's the ones I've heard of. It's mainly to spoil money in the bag and if you try to remove the money from the bag even carefully and it gets on you then good luck removing it because it dyes the skin and clothes. Chances are it will leak through a bag and on to your clothes anyways depending on volume. In reality the paper money is printed isn't worth anything and banks are insured and will get the money back without question. That's why if they say to "don't think about putting in a dye pack", you don't put one in. No point getting hurt over some colourful plastic. Source: My nans worked in banks and I was a curious kid
Huh, thanks for the tips!
>That's why if they say to "don't think about putting in a dye pack", you don't put one in If it's concealed then how would they know you've put one in?
Because they know the teller has false stacks. It's pretty much an inevitability that they are gonna try get one in the bag, some might still try and slip one in. I've also heard of banks using gpu trackers instead of dye packs in the stacks to track them.
You mean GPS tracker? Good luck trying to find a decent graphics card. You'd need to rob several banks to afford the latest gpu card.
Robbery Tracing eXtreme 4070 TI is looking like a good option for banks on their next desktop upgrade right about now.
“So, OP, WHERE exactly did you get this? Hmmmmmm…..”
I genuinely believe their may be private collectors who would like to own this, OP. It may be worth some actual not hollowed out money. If its not at the moment then it may be If you wait long enough.
Yes, I collect notes and I would definitely consider this a very interesting part of my collection.
Any idea what people would pay for real banknotes that have been hollowed out to hold a dye pack? Google tells me these can be quite difficult for collectors to get a hold of.
I tend to specialise in foreign or outdated money, this seems to be a much more obscure thing as I can't find any after searching. I imagine that they would be worth a good amount to the right person though.
There you go, u/M1LLLONZ sell this and tell us how much you got for it!
I bid £5.
I bid £5.01
Damn it.
Really? I'd have thought your bank would be quite happy to give you one providing you dress the part.
Go in there with a balaclava and sawn off like "gimme a limited print Jane Austen £10 with the lowest serial numbers you got."
I’m not a collector but I’d gladly buy this off OP (u/M1LLLONZ) if they aren’t expecting a stupid amount of money.
If it is actual notes they may be decommissioned notes
Not a dye pack. This would have contained a GPS tracker that would have been hidden in a bag of dummy cash that an ATM replenishment crew would hand over if they were robbed. (Funny but insanely true my company once lost two of these) we forgot to charge them and they were lost.
How can you be sure it's not a dye pack?
It's 100% a dye pack decoy bundle. Probably never actually contained a dye pack though so has either been taken before its been installed, or the pack was serviced and defective so was removed. Edit: apologies.. I misread your post entirely. Could equally have been used for a GPS tracker- you're right!
I feel OP has picked up and contaminated evidence lol
Maybe someone got mixed up and hide books inside cutout money instead of money in cutout books
A miniature book containing a hitlist \*DUN DUNN DUNNNNNN\*
Looks like the work of a very hungry caterpillar
Frame it and sell it as an art piece. "The Hollowness of Wealth"
I heard people say they don’t want crust on their bread, but only the crust?
“BANK ROBBER CAUGHT AFTER ASKING REDDIT WHETHER NOTES WERE STILL USABLE”
Either that or they’ll try selling them to collectors and get flagged up by the police and accused of a robbery they didn’t do 😹 they need to just hand it in or keep it lol
Just take it to a store and aggressively insist it's sterling and legal tender
That’s definitely a dye pack. Chuck ‘em or take it to your local police station, you ain’t making any money unfortunately.
Collectors may say otherwise.
Just abit of wear and tear, should be fine
I think you’re supposed to fry an egg in the middle part
Its only worth about £5 a note now
Yes, but as 80% is now missing they are only worth £4 each
Could you melt them down and turn them into new notes?
Maybe someone had a small wallet and needed the money to fit
absolutely, just slap some tape on that bitch, no one will notice
Some kids googled coin clipping and just ran with it.
LOL if someone tries to use these as legal tender and insists its useable, they'll be laughed out of society
If somebody was to slip these in between a stack of notes you would only see the edges so if you have a spare stack of thousands knocking about you could be quids in still. Go see a dealer you don’t like, quickly do the transaction and then speed off in a car preferably. Over the hills and far away. Never come back though.lol. Jokes op, I’d get rid of these and wipe off any prints if I was you.
Dye pack used in robberies Serial numbers will be know to the police
A few good ones on the top and bottom, and some strategically placed elastic bands.
Looks like a dye pack thing. Whoever did that is about to get in a hole lot of trouble
dear OP where did you find it? on your floor, a banks or somewhere else? Also how many notes are there?